climate change

[Anonymous No.14628649]

i dont get it why not just put some big dim screen between earth and the sun and that way cool down earth a bit? seems cheaper than the alternatives

[Anonymous No.14628660]

>>14628649
you are assuming that they want to solve the problem in the first place

[Anonymous No.14628666]

>>14628649
>seems cheaper than the alternatives
Did you crunch the numbers?

[Anonymous No.14628669]

>>14628660
This presumes there is a problem and the whole thing wasn't cooked up to justify the tyrannical policies they are using "climate change" to justify against people.

[Anonymous No.14628675]

>>14628649
Do any of you faggots have a definitive date on when we’re supposed to die from climate change? I remember sitting in my class as a little kid being shown videos of how the earth is on path to being uninhabitable by 2009. Come to find out that the magic number has been pushed back multiple times since the mid 50’s. How much of this is just bullshit for scientists and consultants to get black checks from the government and donations from over emotional fagtrons?

[Anonymous No.14628694]

>>14628675
>I remember sitting in my class as a little kid being shown videos of how the earth is on path to being uninhabitable by 2009.
science is not infallible or a religion. sometimes it is wrong, you suck it up and make a better theory.

[Anonymous No.14628698]

>>14628675
There is no specific date. Everyone won't just drop dead after some critical point. You're likely remembering projections for the point at which climate change becomes inevitable and irreversible which would vary because they're estimates.

[Anonymous No.14628700]

>>14628675
> How much of this is just bullshit for scientists and consultants to get black checks from the government and donations from over emotional fagtrons?
A lot of it since pitching a doomsday endtimes scenario gets you more attention/grants/funding than describing a more mild and boring version of the problem. But today the less radical advocates have walked that back, the new scare is that the global south will slowly become an uninhabitable desert and climate refugees and going to flood the west. And that natural disasters will be more common.

[Anonymous No.14628706]

>>14628649
That is not a reasonable solution. It would be immensely expensive, nearly impossible to construct, and it would destroy agricultural yields. The closest "solution" to what you're proposing is to distribute an aerosol to reflect more light away from the Earth, which also impacts crop yields. It's significantly better to actually fix the problem instead of trying to treat the symptoms.

[Anonymous No.14628761]

>>14628649
>why dont we just construct a wall several thousand miles wide and pack it in a few rockets, easy!
Mcdonalds are always hiring

[Anonymous No.14628771]

>>14628649
- fucks up crop yields
- need a block the size of India

[Anonymous No.14628788]

>>14628698
We know this is an existential risk if we don't *do something* soon, so the information must be in the IPCC report somewhere. When do the models say that half of all people will be dead with 50% probability?

Also, do the models take into account that eventually the corpses will be stacked so high as to blot out the sun, thereby lowering the temperature?

[Anonymous No.14628841]

>>14628788
>When do the models say that half of all people will be dead with 50% probability?
What's this strategy called to be an annoying little shit, asking for overly specific, unanswerable questions, thinking that this disproves anything?

[Anonymous No.14628851]

>>14628649
>climate change
Does this mean more africans in europe? Probably.

[Anonymous No.14629019]

>>14628788
Nobody estimates mortality from climate change because it would depend on too many factors that are impossible to predict. If you want to know when your life will be effected, then I expect it will be some time in the 2030's. The wet bulb temperatures around the equator will become lethal seasonally causing around a billion people to migrate north. More land will be affected each year and more people will migrate farther north. Expect food shortages, riots, and probably a few wars as a result.

[Anonymous No.14629026]

>>14628649
the problem is the weakening of the magnetic field, not cow farts

[Anonymous No.14629047]

>>14628694
>science is not infallible or a religion. sometimes it is wrong, you suck it up and make a better theory
It shouldn't serve as the basis for any coercion then

[Anonymous No.14629050]

>>14629019
And will your bank account be emptied if your prediction is wrong?

[Anonymous No.14629053]

>>14628675
>I remember sitting in my class as a little kid being shown videos of how the earth is on path to being uninhabitable by 2009.
Sure you do.

[Anonymous No.14629056]

>>14628851
Yes. That's why racists should push for renewables around the world. Import CO2 tax now

[Anonymous No.14629063]

>>14629056
>push for renewables around the world
That's the precise reason for the rise in gas and gasoline prices everywhere

[Anonymous No.14629065]

>>14629056
>>14629063
Not to mention, "renewables" depend on mining, which is not renewable, therefore they aren't renewables in reality

[Anonymous No.14629066]

>>14628649
We need sunlight for things like growing crops.

[Anonymous No.14629072]

>>14629063
>decreased demand and increased supply increases the price

[Anonymous No.14629078]

>>14629065
But you'll just recycle the solar panels and batteries once they break. Once you have enough you don't have to mine more materials, it will be a closed loop.

[Anonymous No.14629079]

>>14629065
Reveals refers to the energy, not the infrastructure. Metal is not turned into energy, dumb /pol/tard.

[Anonymous No.14629089]

>>14629072
>decreased demand and increased supply increases the price
The demand is the same and supply decreased via coercion by government laws no population asked for

>>14629078
>you'll just recycle
I'm saying what renewables today are current facing, problems with mining. Reclying isn't helping it.

>>14629079
>Reveals refers to the energy
I don't care, renewables are useless if it requires more non renewable shit, is less efficient and more costly to ME

[Anonymous No.14629101]

>>14629089
>renewables are useless if it requires more non renewable shit, is less efficient and more costly to ME
Doesn't follow. Cry more.

[Anonymous No.14629106]

>>14629089
>The demand is the same
How can it be the same when renewables replace fossil fuels? You're not making any sense. Renewables have nothing to do with increasing the price of fossil fuels.

>supply decreased via coercion by government laws
Which laws?

[Anonymous No.14629108]

>>14629072
>4chin schizo having an opinion, probably snorting and histerically laughing to himself as his 2-cell encephalon is transmitting back and fourth the word 'based'. Finally cooms in his pants.

[Anonymous No.14629113]

>>14629101
>Doesn't follow.
It does when the EU had to resort to buying coal and gas since their precious renewables aren't doing the job

>>14629106
>How can it be the same when renewables replace fossil fuels
They don't. "Fossil fuels" evidence you're retarded, as no fuel comes from a fossil. The demand for gasoline, gas, coal, etc. is as high as ever evidenced by the record profits of oil companies.

>Renewables have nothing to do with increasing the price of fossil fuels.
Of course they do you chump, governments restrict the supply of oil, gas, coal, etc. thus increasing prices (e.g. closing pipelines, creating red tape for non-ESG, etc.). Governments have been increasingly restricting access as well with laws prohibiting gasoline run cars and vehicles in general by a certain date. Food producers are also being cut thus increasing food prices as the ones that aren't mega corporations can't comply with the fart limits (see Netherlands recent example)

[Anonymous No.14629121]

>>14629113
>It does when the EU had to resort to buying coal and gas since their precious renewables aren't doing the job
Do you're saying the EU buying some of the FF it would have needed without renewables is an increase in demand, even though they're buying less? Oh no... it's retarded.

[Anonymous No.14629124]

>>14629121
>the EU buying some of the FF it would have needed without renewables is an increase in demand, even though they're buying less?
The demand is still high as evidenced by the high gas prices in Europe, the government is "buying" too little

[Anonymous No.14629125]

Imagine the following scenario: It's the year 2400, and an asteroid the size of Texas is about to plunge into the Earth and sterilize the surface of the planet. There are very few people who know about it and no one in a position to do anything about it because, about 400 years ago, a group of anti-intellectuals driven by emotion and unable to defend their ideas against even the thinnest retorts seized the reins of power and set about dismantling the fossil fuel industry which had been a crucial part of so much of Mankind's technological ingenuity for the past hundred years.

Critics cast warnings of dire consequences, yet the anti-intellectuals pressed on, their righteousness and virtue would not allow them to be deterred, even as the warnings began to manifest: Starvation and famine, so close to being eradicated, returned with a vengeance, first in the impoverished third world as food prices began to skyrocket, then even in developed countries as prices continued their unabated rise. Soon, clean water and electricity stopped reliably flowing, and more lives were claimed by pestilence and disease. As the population plummeted, the vast skills and knowledge needed for high tech industries disappeared with it--orbiting satellites slowed down and, one by one, burned up in the atmosphere, and no new satellites were going up to replace them, the knowledge and skills needed for the astounding task of putting something in orbit had now been lost to time...

[Anonymous No.14629126]

>>14629121
Shitting in your own pants to own the libs

[Anonymous No.14629129]

>>14629125

[cont'd]

Like watching history play out in reverse, all of Mankind's wondrous technological marvels vanished as time went on. First, the airplanes; even if you could afford the fuel, no one knew how to fix the specialized equipment, or manufacture new parts to the required exacting tolerances. Then, as the cars, trucks, and trains stopped, those lucky enough to have survived thus far faced a difficult return to an feudal, agrarian society that would have been not too out of place in medieval Europe. As brutal wars and battles for precious natural resources claim many young lives before their time, the last digital electronics in the world stop working, the digital universe of knowledge Mankind once accumulated was now lost, forever.

Virtually no one knew the asteroid was coming, after all, who had a working telescope anymore? It was just another sunny day of planting and harvesting for many as the rock passes through Earth's atmosphere in about two seconds, releasing more energy in it's impact than every nuclear bomb ever created a thousand times over. The impact liquefies the Earth's crust for thousands of miles around, ejecting millions of tons of rock straight out of the atmosphere. Every volcano on the Earth blows nearly simultaneously from the force of the impact, the ash rapidly blotting out the sun; the only lights now are the continent-spanning fires and bright glow of impact debris re-entering the atmosphere, setting the ground alight when it lands. All traces of Mankind, of all of God's creatures, great and small, vanish forever into the cold endless night...

[Anonymous No.14629131]

>>14629125
>Imagine the following scenario: It's the year 2400, and an asteroid the size of Texas is about to plunge into the Earth and sterilize the surface of the planet. There are very few people who know about it and no one in a position to do anything about it because, about 400 years ago, a group of anti-intellectuals driven by emotion and unable to defend their ideas against even the thinnest retorts seized the reins of power and set about dismantling the fossil fuel industry which had been a crucial part of so much of Mankind's technological ingenuity for the past hundred years.
>Critics cast warnings of dire consequences, yet the anti-intellectuals pressed on, their righteousness and virtue would not allow them to be deterred, even as the warnings began to manifest: Starvation and famine, so close to being eradicated, returned with a vengeance, first in the impoverished third world as food prices began to skyrocket, then even in developed countries as prices continued their unabated rise. Soon, clean water and electricity stopped reliably flowing, and more lives were claimed by pestilence and disease. As the population plummeted, the vast skills and knowledge needed for high tech industries disappeared with it--orbiting satellites slowed down and, one by one, burned up in the atmosphere, and no new satellites were going up to replace them, the knowledge and skills needed for the astounding task of putting something in orbit had now been lost to time...
All according to the keikaku...

Humanity can finally larp as monke

[Anonymous No.14629133]

>>14629129

[cont'd]

This is the future climate alarmists want. We know this because we warn again and again of the consequences, consequences which we can all presently observe. And yet they press on, undeterred. Undeterred by those who will starve from THEIR food price inflation, undeterred by those who will freeze in the winter from THEIR fuel price inflation, and undeterred by our descendants who will suffer in the future from what is being done now, by THEM.

These people want the end of humanity and indeed the end of life itself. It's obvious. The veil has been lifted.

[Anonymous No.14629139]

>>14629121
By the way, the EU is also buying the big bad coal now too

[Anonymous No.14629142]

>>14628649
>the media continues to ignore it
No reason to read past that as it's a completely bullshit statement. The media beats the climate change drum non-stop.

[Anonymous No.14629146]

>>14629113
>"Fossil fuels" evidence you're retarded, as no fuel comes from a fossil.
It comes from the fossilized remains of plants and plankton, illiterate /pol/tard.

>The demand for gasoline, gas, coal, etc. is as high as ever
Non sequitur. It's lower than it would be with no renewables. So renewables don't increase the price of fossil fuels.

>Of course they do you chump, governments restrict the supply of oil, gas, coal
That's environmental regulation, not an effect of renewables.

So it looks like you've abandoned your idiotic claim that renewables increase the price of fossil fuels.

[Anonymous No.14629148]

>>14629139
They should build more nuclear and renewables. They're already doing this to get off Russian oil.

[Anonymous No.14629152]

>>14629146
>It comes from the fossilized remains of plants and plankton, illiterate /pol/tard.
haha no it doesn't, there are plenty of studies showing oil is abiogenic

Schutter, S.R. (2003), Occurrences of hydrocarbons in and around igneous rocks, Geological Society, London, Special Publications, 214, 35-68.

Petford, N. & McCaffrey, K. (2003), Hydrocarbons in crystalline rocks: an introduction, Geological Society, London, Special Publications, 214, 1-5

Landes, K.K.; Amoruso, J.J.; Charlesworth, L.J.; Heany, F. & Lesperance, P.J. (1960), Petroleum resources in basement rocks, American Association of Petroleum Geologists, Bulletin 44, 1682–1691.

Lamb, C.F. (1997), Basement reservoirs—an overlooked opportunity, Canadian Society of Petroleum Geologists and Society of Economic and Petroleum Mineralogists Joint Convention, Calgary.

Gold, T. (1998), The Deep Hot Biosphere (Copernicus, New York).

Petford, N.; McCaffrey, K.J.W.; Koning, T. (2003), Oil and gas production from basement reservoirs: examples from Indonesia, USA and Vietnam, In: Hydrocarbons in Crystalline Rocks, Geological Society, London, Special Publications, eds Petford, N. and McCaffrey, K.J.W., 214, 83–92.

Powers, S. (1932), Notes on minor occurrences of oil, gas and bitumen with igneous and metamorphic rocks, American Association of Petroleum Geologists, Bulletin, 16, 837–858.

Petford, N.; McCaffrey, K.J.W. & Shutter, S.R. (2003), Hydrocarbons in Crystalline Rocks, Hydrocarbon occurrence and exploration in and around igneous rocks, Geological Society, London, Special Publications, eds Petford, N. & McCaffrey, K.J.W., 214, 7–33.

Stagpoole, V. & Funnell R. (2001), Arc magmatism and hydrocarbon generation in northern Taranaki Basin, New Zealand, Petroleum Geosciences, 7, 255–267.

>Non sequitur. It's lower than it would be with no renewables. So renewables don't increase the price of fossil fuels.
The same argument as yours: without renewables non renewables would be cheaper

[Anonymous No.14629157]

>>14629146
>That's environmental regulation, not an effect of renewables.
renewables are not economically attractive as they're inefficient. the government is the reason people even buy that shit as their regulations create an artificial demand (prohibit non renewables to the point non renewables start to look buyable)

[Anonymous No.14629167]

>>14629152
>haha no it doesn't, there are plenty of studies showing oil is abiogenic
lmao, this just keeps getting better and better. None of your studies prove anything of the sort, fossil fuels have biogenic markers, and abiogenic oil is pathological science. Dumb schizo.

[Anonymous No.14629197]

>>14629157
Your talking points are a bit outdated, oil shill.

https://www.irena.org/newsroom/pressreleases/2021/Jun/Majority-of-New-Renewables-Undercut-Cheapest-Fossil-Fuel-on-Cost

[Anonymous No.14629215]

>>14629167
>abiogenic oil is pathological science
diamonds are abiogenic, made from hydrocarbons

why is it so hard for you to believe oil is the same?

>None of your studies prove anything of the sort
You have no idea about what you're spouting

>fossil fuels have biogenic markers
What does this mean? Contamination?

[Anonymous No.14629217]

>>14629197
>Majority-of-New-Renewables-Undercut-Cheapest-Fossil-Fuel-on-Cost
Red tape increasing oil prices and government subsides to non renewables (thus creating a bubble) surely has nothing to do with it

[Anonymous No.14629261]

>>14629215
No idea if abiotic oil theory is correct or not but if it doesn't replenish at the rate we use it, then it's not all that useful. I did cocktail napkin math a few years back that showed if abiotic theory was true and produced oil at the rate we use it, the oceans long ago would have been filled with oil and the land covered in it to something like 1,000 meters. Maybe if the Earth is only 6,000 year old, abiotic could be true and produce at the rate we need it to.

[Anonymous No.14629273]

>>14629261
>if it doesn't replenish at the rate we use it, then it's not all that useful
The problem is that geophysicists use the wrong models, it would be easy to find oil and ores with the right one. Adopting the hydroplate theory would be the first step, next would be a flat earth
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1674984715000518

[Anonymous No.14629281]

>>14629215
>diamonds are abiogenic, made from hydrocarbons
>why is it so hard for you to believe oil is the same?
If abiogenic hydrocarbons are turned into diamonds, which are found in completely different layers (separated by billions of years) then why is it so hard for you to believe oil is biogenic? This is another nail in the codon for abiogenic oil, it's not found in the places we would expect it to form and flow to.

I don't find it hard to believe it's abiogenic, it's just that all the evidence and every expert says oil is biogenic.

>You have no idea about what you're spouting
I literally only needed to read the titles of those papers to know you're lying.

>What does this mean?
It means that you're wrong.

>Contamination?
How odd that they would all be contaminated with the expected markers from the plankton and plants they are claimed to come from. What a coincidence, happening thousands of times. LOL, you're desperate.

[Anonymous No.14629291]

>>14629217
If you actually read the study, it's due to technological improvements, not coal getting more expensive. Try again, oil shill.

[frenanon No.14629301]

>>14629089
Glass OPEC.
Kill any anyone who supports OPEC.
Stop giving Trillions$ to OPEC terrorists who are financing the destruction of the West.
Just take the fucking Oil from the mid-east, and stop supporting these sandniggers.

[Anonymous No.14629305]

>>14628649
>climate change
Has nothing to do with man. You might as well try to influence or control the rotation of the planet or the tides.

[Anonymous No.14629313]

>>14628675
>Histrionic retards and politicos said we'd all be dead by now so climate change is not a problem.
>Retards and anti-smoking ads said smoking will give you lung cancer but actually most smokers die before ever getting lung cancer so smoking is not unhealthy.
>Histrionic anti-drug movies we saw in school showed a kid hitting a joint one day and drying or a heroin overdose the next so shooting up is fine.

I don't closely follow climate shit but I recall hearing since before 2009 that the big issue is 2 degrees Celsius warming by 2100 and that this trajectory would lead to a number of major problems, PARTICULARLY in the second half of the 21st century and on.

These effects won't be evenly dispersed and will hit some regions worse than others. Bangladesh and large areas of Africa will be the most impacted due to both their vulnerability and wealth states.

It just so happens that these places are also where population is absolutely exploding. UN projections have more than 1 in every 2 kids being African by 2100. SSA just passed a billion people in 2015 but will have more people than all of Asia by 2100. They are getting wealthier and can travel much easier.

If you thought the 2015 migrant crisis threatened civilization it is absolutely asinine to write off climate change. Those migrant levels will be a trickle compared to when 3+ billion Africans are having climate change fuck them in 2070.

Conservative denial of enviornmental damage is retarded as fuck and not even conservative. It just stems from Boomers not ever making sacrifices before and not wanting to start now. They'll just pass off $30 trillion in debt, their $2.6 trillion in benefits they get a year, and climate change.

[Anonymous No.14629318]

>>14629301
U.S. isn't interested in the oil, it's interested in the money involved with it.
Petrodollar is a thing.
https://youtu.be/pCkXtMAeP5o?t=4m50s

[Anonymous No.14629319]

>>14629313
>mental illness on display.

[Anonymous No.14629323]

>>14629281
>which are found in completely different layers (separated by billions of years)
diamonds are formed in one week in other planets according to science

[Anonymous No.14629326]

>>14629050
Nope. Why would it be? Just so you're aware, wet bulb temperatures are already reaching dangerous levels in some countries. India had a huge problem with it this year.

[Anonymous No.14629328]

>>14629313
>If you thought the 2015 migrant crisis threatened civilization it is absolutely asinine to write off climate change. Those migrant levels will be a trickle compared to when 3+ billion Africans are having climate change fuck them in 2070.
just shoot all of them who try to invade?

[Anonymous No.14629331]

>>14629326
so you have no skin in the game

>wet bulb temperatures are already reaching dangerous levels in some countries. India had a huge problem with it this year
funny how cold fronts can't be used as an argument against "climate change" but hot waves can and are

[Anonymous No.14629336]

>>14629328
>just shoot all of them who try to invade?
That's a sensible and logical solution, so it will not be used by any government and up to the citizens to do it themselves.

[Anonymous No.14629350]

>>14629323
So?

[Anonymous No.14629353]

>>14629331
If you think that increasing the average global temperature of the Earth won't increase heat and humidity then you're too retarded to post on this board. Unexpected cold fronts are a part of the destabilizing weather systems. Can you show me a cooling trend over several decades? No? Then it's just the weather.

[Anonymous No.14629395]

>>14629323
LOL, what did that have to do with what I said? The time separation between diamonds and oil is not a formation time. Just stop posting. I'm sure you're considered very intelligent in your containment board, go back there.

[Anonymous No.14629503]

>>14629353
>increase heat and humidity
good for plant growth and more food production, plus more liveable regions with less cold weather that requires heating fuels.

[Anonymous No.14629509]

>>14629503
That's not how that works, but enjoy hosting billions of immigrants.

[Anonymous No.14629631]

>>14629328
>Just shoot one billion invaders who presumably also have guns with you median aged 60 population

[Anonymous No.14629633]

>>14628649
Well why don't you?

[Anonymous No.14629659]

>>14629503
>good for plant growth
I hear this all the time, and it's not true. Hotter temps translates to increased water stress in plantd. Any increases in rain are more than canceled out by the increased water evaporation.

[Anonymous No.14629678]

It's a scam.

We can't control it, search up emissions from super volcanos. Its a carbon credit grift.

[Anonymous No.14629690]

>>14628649
Why not just build a Dyson sphere around the sun and dim it that way? As a bonus we'll also satisfy all our energy needs.

[Anonymous No.14629695]

>>14629125
>>14629129
Yeah, all of this is a lie. You've reached the point where you have no argument left against climate change so you resort to science fantasy for why we need fossil fuels.

Do yourself a favor. All the information about why we know climate is changing because of humans is freely available to you. Go study. Stop coming to anime image boards for your information.

[Anonymous No.14629717]

>>14628649
>>>/biz/
now go ask them for the money

[Anonymous No.14629884]

>>14628649
If an asteroid the size of Texas hit the Earth, you wouldn't have to worry about climate change. You would be dead. Everyone you know and the bacteria on everything inside their body, on their skin, and on their stuff will be dead. Something the size of Texas hitting the Earth would wipe out everything, even bacteria.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2016/10/27/what-would-a-texas-sized-meteor-impact-do-to-the-planet/?sh=750b3c95dc95

[Anonymous No.14629895]

>>14629678
>search up emissions from super volcanos. Its a carbon credit grift.
Where are all the supervolvanos erupting in the past 200 years?

[Anonymous No.14630000]

>>14629129
>>14629131
>>14629133
tdlr i got a oil company dildo up my ass so big that you could drive a truck column through it afterwards

[Anonymous No.14630197]

>>14628694
>science is not infallible
Actual it's made of bullshit, lies, suppressing critics and propagates false and refuted theories. Scientist are the same parasites crawling the bowels of power than journalists.

[Anonymous No.14630202]

>>14628649
Any solution that doesn't involve a total return to the bronze age will not be tolerated by the people who always make an exception for themselves. Remember COP-26? They could of course not have used Teams or Zoom, that is for the rest of us.

>>14628660
AKA Shirkey's Principle.

[Anonymous No.14630207]

>>14628841
>annoying
Dismissing the little people has always been a hallmark of the nobility.

>>14629019
>too many factors that are impossible to predict
That never stopped them from multiple attempts to predict an ice free Arctic.

[Anonymous No.14630268]

>>14630207
>That never stopped them from multiple attempts to predict an ice free Arctic.
Mortality is a bit more difficult than ice melting, /pol/tard. And who is "they?"

[Anonymous No.14630307]

>>14630207
No one ever claimed to predict a certain number of human deaths at any point. It is a strawman argument. You take something no one ever calculated and then say "See, if they can't calculate ${thing}, how can we trust their model for ${other thing}?"
>>14630268
(((they))) of course

[Anonymous No.14630509]

>>14629273
>hydroplate theory
you reject our reality and substitute your own.
>geophysicists use the wrong models, it would be easy to find oil and ores with the right one.
what exactly stops creationists from using the right model to prove those eeevil geophysicists wrong? figure out oil reserves where nobody thinks there's oil, buy rights cheap and make bank.

[Anonymous No.14630516]

>>14629884
I don't think it's that simple. bacteria would survive on ejecta launched into orbit and return to the surface hundreds of thousands of years after the event when the orbits of ejecta decay. unicellular life may be well-nigh impossible to kill.

[Anonymous No.14630610]

>>14630509
>you reject our reality and substitute your own.
That's called science

>what exactly stops creationists from using the right model to prove those eeevil geophysicists wrong
Academic censorship
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/94fi9r/flat_earth_phd_thesis_proofs_reasons_for_deception/

>figure out oil reserves where nobody thinks there's oil, buy rights cheap and make bank
Many already do that. The most famous case I know is of João Cavalcanti, who regularly finds ores where the "experts" say there was none to be found

[Anonymous No.14630986]

>>14630268
Your paranoia is showing. Please leave.

>>14630307
>It is a strawman argument.
Wrong. I pointed out that warmers have on many occasions predicted things that didn't happen. And that didn't stop them from more wrong predictions. And when people go for hysteria-speak such as boiling the globe anyone should immediately understand that that would also kill everyone.