/sfg/ - Space Flight General

[Anonymous No.14621832]

Rocket's Red Glare edition
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[Anonymous No.14621836]

haha fug I mean
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[Anonymous No.14621837]

>>14621832
Where's the launch list breadbaker

[Anonymous No.14621842]

>>14621832
Third for ABL, nobody knows much about them lol

[Anonymous No.14621846]

>>14621837
Vega C | LARES 2, CELESTA & Others
Thu Jul 7, 2022 6:13 AM CDT
Falcon 9 Block 5 | Starlink Group 4-21
NET Jul 07, 2022
Falcon 9 Block 5 | Starlink Group 3-1
Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:00 PM CDT
Falcon 9 Block 5 | CRS SpX-25
Thu Jul 14, 2022 7:30 PM CDT

[Anonymous No.14621847]

>>14621846
Nominal

[Anonymous No.14621848]

>>14621832
Does "Occupy Mars" have militaristic connotations?

[Anonymous No.14621851]

>>14621848
Deliberate reference to Occupy Wall Street, an aimless protest with no clear goals that nevertheless freaked TPTB out so badly they sicced the feds on them and have been running scared ever since

I take it to mean a non-state-aligned presence on Mars

[Anonymous No.14621853]

>>14621848
SpaceX will have its own military on Mars, everyone who opposes it will be kindly and peacefully escorted into the vacuum of space.

[Anonymous No.14621855]

>>14621842
Did anyone ever figure out what "ABL" even means?

[Anonymous No.14621857]

>>14621855
Usually if you get undecipherable initials in a corporate name it's the initials of the founding partners / companies that merged to found it

[Anonymous No.14621860]

>>14621853
Conveniently in most scenarios the vacuum will be easy to bring directly to those people rather than the other way around

[Anonymous No.14621861]

>>14621832
>that scar on Musk's neck

What's up with that?

[Anonymous No.14621862]

>>14621861
He had surgery

[Anonymous No.14621863]

>>14621855
Always the Bitch of Lockheed?
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/05/lockheed-martin-buys-up-to-58-launches-from-rocket-builder-abl-space.html

[Anonymous No.14621864]

>>14621861
https://www.techtimes.com/articles/253427/20201017/elon-musk-reveals-failed-c5-c6-neck-spinal-surgery-reason.htm

[Anonymous No.14621867]

>>14621862
>>14621864
Interesting. Had no idea.

[Anonymous No.14621868]

It’s literally been over a year since we got scammed

[Anonymous No.14621869]

>>14621863
Who the fuck are these guys?

[Anonymous No.14621872]

[Anonymous No.14621874]

>>14621832
FTS Archive
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KCJBL632oieD1r6JOh_5Eg9NTcf_-hH8?usp=sharing

[Anonymous No.14621875]

>>14621872
Look at those bricks go

[Anonymous No.14621876]

>>14621869
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/08/rocket-startup-abl-space-aims-for-first-rs1-launch-in-a-few-months.html

SpaceX spinoff

[Anonymous No.14621880]

>>14621872
Is this a pad tester? It's clearly not representive of Ariane 4's aerodynamic model so what is it for?

[Anonymous No.14621882]

>>14621876
>in a few months
>january 2021
yeah I see they follow spacex's steps quite well

[Anonymous No.14621884]

>>14621872
right at the intersection between cursed rockets and ksp kino rockets

[Anonymous No.14621895]

>>14621864
Lol I have a c5-c6 fusion and it went OK.

[Anonymous No.14621899]

Dogfighting Baseduzes

>The Zvezda was based on a radically modified Soyuz. Objectives were human earth observation, orbital inspection and destruction of enemy satellites.
>Zvezda would be powered by two plutonium radioisotope generators and had a recoilless gun for defense. It was designed for shooting in a vacuum and defending the military research spacecraft from enemy satellite inspector and interceptor satellites.
>The gun was aimed by maneuvering the entire spacecraft. A special gunsight was installed in the descent module for aiming the gun.
>A forward docking apparatus to allow docking with Almaz was also included.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Soyuz

[Anonymous No.14621900]

>>14621895
elon?

[Anonymous No.14621906]

>>14621880
It's a normal Ariane 4. Payloads for the A4 were encapsulated in their fairings in payload processing building and then the whole unit was lifted onto a rocket that was already vertical on the pad. This sort of process wasn't completely unheard in older designs but it did make things slower so it was eventually phased out.

[Anonymous No.14621912]

>>14621895
What for?

[Anonymous No.14621925]

>>14621912
Trying to suck my own dick.

[Anonymous No.14621937]

>>14621860
You're going to have a hard time shooting the several meters of solid rock in the lava tubs

[Anonymous No.14621944]

>>14621853
How hard will it be to diy your own gun once on Mars?
I'm sure eventually the SpaceX corporate security will become corrupt

[Anonymous No.14621962]

>>14621912
Probably same as elon. Herniated disc from years of bad posture at computers

[Anonymous No.14621963]

Besides the massive RTG. What other power source could keep a probe warm and going for 100 to 200 years?

[Anonymous No.14621965]

>>14621963
Nuclear reactor that’s about it

[Anonymous No.14621966]

>>14621937
Lava tube habitats will never happen

[Anonymous No.14621969]

>>14621944
Compressed gas cylinder, ball or gate valve, 5 foot tube, muzzle loaded wad full of random sharp/dense little objects. Point open end of tube towards enemy, open valve.

[Anonymous No.14621970]

Am I allowed to...kiss girls on Mars? :)

[Anonymous No.14621971]

>>14621963
Solar panel

[Anonymous No.14621972]

>>14621970
There are no laws on Mars, but if you want to contribute to the birth rate it's encouraged

[Anonymous No.14621975]

>>14621971
Useless past 5 au from Sol. Would be useless around Proxima.

[Anonymous No.14621976]

>>14621972
Elon at least needs to make abortion illegal in the Starship ToS

[Anonymous No.14621979]

>>14621976
Maybe we wait to see if jello babies are made first before deciding that. Nobody wants those for a reason.

[Anonymous No.14621980]

>>14621972
Without any sort of real gene therapy to fix all the problems it feels cursed to have a child on Mars

[Anonymous No.14621984]

>>14621963
Antimatter annihilation

[Anonymous No.14621986]

>>14621899
>The 7K-VI space fighter was named "Star". And although it was developed on the basis of the basic design of the Soyuz spacecraft, it was still significantly different from it in appearance.
>The Zvezda space fighter was to be powered by a plutonium battery. This would allow for long-term missions in orbit. Up to 30 days.
> The 23-mm cannon, according to the project, installed on the nose of the returned capsule, was created by Alexander Emmanuilovich Nudelman. He was one of the most prominent weapons designers in the Soviet Union.
>The space cannon was a reworked version of the aircraft cannon of his own design. It was to become a weapon without recoil. Because any recoil would change the spacecraft's orbit every time the cannon fired.
>Another project, the Soyuz-P ( Interceptor ), was supposed to solve more active tasks.
>After rendezvous with the target (American spy satellite)the astronaut had to make a spacewalk to inspect the target. And if necessary, neutralize it.

[Anonymous No.14621989]

>>14621980
There won't be any problems. This was revealed to me in a dream.

[Anonymous No.14621996]

>>14621975
NTA, but you never said anything about distances from the sun/nearest star; solar panels are perfectly acceptable for a 200-year Mercury/Venus observation probe.

inb4
>but in the last thread
u gay.

[Anonymous No.14621999]

>>14621969
Sounds like absolute garbage for anything other killing someone by surprise and hopefully they don't shoot back

[Anonymous No.14622011]

>>14621980
why are you so fucking scared?

[Anonymous No.14622014]

Yeah mars has UV radiation but how much is it really? It's futher away so it should balance out

[Anonymous No.14622024]

>>14621999
Improvised guns when used by a group of ten men at once are all you need on short notice to take a habitat. You can work on improving your firearms later.

[Anonymous No.14622026]

>>14622014
It's effectively zero because you never go outside naked and it's too easy to put UV-opaque coatings over ever window.

[Anonymous No.14622029]

There won’t be any gunfights in space for the next 50-100 years because it’ll risk WW3 for now.

[Anonymous No.14622035]

>>14622029
lol ok *shoots (You)*

[Anonymous No.14622037]

so i guess spacex just isnt ready for static fire yet :(

[Anonymous No.14622040]

>capstone is the first piece of hardware launched for Artemis
>2 years before intended manned landing
):<

[Anonymous No.14622050]

takeaways from garver's book so far:
>garver is a terrible writer
>the iss almost never made it
>von braun and friends orchestrated the space race (used/convinced LBJ to attack eisenhower on sputnik, strung everyone along from there)
>Bolden couldn't find his way out of a paper bag (Garver had to draw a triangle for him, among other things)
>Nelson was constantly doing everything possible to stop CC, keep constellation, Orion, SLS going.
>Garver is still salty that a boy band member went to space instead of herself.

[Anonymous No.14622053]

CLPS missions wil never launch and you all forgot about them. You cant even say what the payloads are.

[Anonymous No.14622057]

>>14622050
>Garver is still salty that a boy band member went to space instead of herself.
wait till she finds out the ragtag group of youtubers slated to reenact Apollo 8 with mr. maezawa

[Anonymous No.14622065]

>>14622011
>jello babies are OK
>my children will never be able to visit the cradle of eden due to their bones
>any earther born child could easily out compete my Mars born child

[Anonymous No.14622067]

>>14622065
fuck urf

[Anonymous No.14622071]

>>14622050
>von braun and friends orchestrated the space race
Astoundingly based. If only the Soviets had been able to actually keep up, things might have kept rolling until a point-of-no-withdrawal on permanent Lunar operations.
We know that he had some limited gift of prophecy, I just wish he'd lived to 100 and seen the Martian Elon that he foretold.

[Anonymous No.14622072]

>>14622065
Partial-g is going to be a big fat nothingburger.

[Anonymous No.14622075]

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Anonymous No.14622083]

I like how people are always discussing alternative history like what would happen if the Soviets won space race, but they never bring up the elephant in the room; what would happen if the Nazis won.

Let that sink in.

[Anonymous No.14622085]

>>14622083
Chew on that

[Anonymous No.14622086]

>>14622071
What happened to the soviets was the american equivalent of Von Braun fucking dying in 1966. I doubt that the Apollo program would've kept on going even until 1972, almost no chance of ASTP in 1975

[Anonymous No.14622089]

>>14622083
Berlin would have been a smoking nuclear crater, things would have gone on much the same after that

[Anonymous No.14622092]

>>14622089
no berlin, no berlin wall. the cold war never happens

[Anonymous No.14622093]

>>14622089
Anon nuclear bomb in Europe was off the table in all regards in the US military

[Anonymous No.14622095]

>>14622072
A very active Marian will probably have the bone strength and heart of a Soiboy who works in an office all day

[Anonymous No.14622100]

>>14622095
Ok, but that wont matter when Urf is gone reduced to atoms

[Anonymous No.14622102]

>>14622083
Damn I wish, would visit Germania.
Space exploration could potentially even be further than it is today, nationalism, power, and great achievements go hand in hand

[Anonymous No.14622106]

>>14622095
Easily accounted for with exercise, supplements, and medication.

[Anonymous No.14622132]

Will Relativity ever seriously manage to get Terran Retard off the ground? those 3d printing machines are so fuckin slow it's unreal. and the tanks have a mass penalty. Just use rolled steel lol

[Anonymous No.14622142]

>>14622132
I have a great and incredible NEED to see it disintegrate at max q

[Anonymous No.14622144]

>>14622142
maybe finally wipe that gay smile off tim ellis's face

[Anonymous No.14622145]

For All mankind s4. Skips ahead to the 2010s. Mars has a permanent settlement getting rich off Asteroid mining. The US and Soviets getting nervous as Martian Nation rises. Meanwhile the first O'Neil cylinder is being built out at Jupiter to harvest he3 and hydrogen.

[Anonymous No.14622147]

>>14622145
Written and produced by the biggest faggot of all /sfg/

[Anonymous No.14622149]

>>14622145
For All Mankind seems too fast desu. Like the timeline is uber compressed. The SpaceX-Expy in S3 was founded like 6 years before the “present” and they have a mars ship built. SpaceX is 20 and they’re not there yet.
For All Mankind can suck my cock it’s a neat idea it just pisses me off how it gets close to being great then squanders it. We need an Eyes Turned Skywards series ASAP

[Anonymous No.14622150]

>>14622145
That show can go suck eggs in peru for all I care

[Anonymous No.14622152]

>>14622149
Ive heard good things about ETS but what makes it not gay?

[Anonymous No.14622154]

>>14622106
>if you follow the same route at as a Olympic athlete you might turn out to be the average earther male

[Anonymous No.14622157]

>>14622152
It’s realistic. It also doesn’t focus on people so there’s no real personal drama. It’s like a serial. Each part is just a snippet of history.
It’s also pretty cool. The world build in it is great and is actually very plausible.
Most of all, it’s not pure wish fulfillment like For All Mankind.

[Anonymous No.14622161]

Grug like feral mankind

[Anonymous No.14622168]

>>14622157
>most rockets are just the core strapped 4x around the main core
>Neva
May the ground swallow the man who created these abominations

[Anonymous No.14622170]

>>14622154
>be Loonie or Martian
>reach a minimum of 6'6" during puberty because of low gravity
>When at desired height, receive nasal-spray gene therapy to induce higher baseline muscular hypertrophy and bone remodeling
>bask in Earther seethe
>squat reps of 12pl8 for your warmup

[Anonymous No.14622174]

>>14622157
All I can hear is this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3p_VuPIS2c
Especially looking at Saturn Multibody and Vulkan Atlas

[Anonymous No.14622177]

>>14622170
This
Genemodding is required for the future of humans even on earth

[Anonymous No.14622178]

>>14622174
>brother I am hurt

[Anonymous No.14622179]

>>14622132
Seethe, it doesn't need mass autism because it's properly sized, unlike Neutron.

[Anonymous No.14622180]

>>14622157
idk man those look pretty rough

[Anonymous No.14622182]

>>14622157
I prefer these ones

[Anonymous No.14622183]

>>14622182
I don't always create abominations, but when I do, I prefer SLS. Stay [DELETED] my friends

[Anonymous No.14622184]

>>14622179
this comment wont age well

[Anonymous No.14622185]

Falcon XX

[Anonymous No.14622186]

>>14622183
For me its jupiter 3

[Anonymous No.14622190]

Step aside

[Anonymous No.14622192]

>>14622184
Size matters, rocketlet.

[Anonymous No.14622237]

>>14621832
I have heard Bezos got his engines finally

[Anonymous No.14622245]

When will the smallsat launcher bloodbath start?

[Anonymous No.14622253]

It’s funny that random space nerds can make better and more soulful alt history than rooms full of writers at Apple TV
Pic related is from “Boldly Going,” which is made by the same guy as ETS

[Anonymous No.14622258]

>>14622237
>engines
Uno engine

[Anonymous No.14622259]

does someone have the 2017 blue origin tweet about the engines

[Anonymous No.14622262]

>>14622259
better yet, it's a 2015 tweet hoping to be ready by 2017

[Anonymous No.14622277]

>>14621944
>I'm sure eventually the SpaceX corporate security will become corrupt
Reminder they explicitly ask for counterinsurgency experience: https://www.spacex.com/careers/index.html?department=Facilities%2520and%2520Physical%2520Security

[Anonymous No.14622315]

>>14622262
they have a harder time staying on track than JWST

[Anonymous No.14622330]

is surviving mars a good game? i need something new.

[Anonymous No.14622341]

>>14622330
no
pic related is why

[Anonymous No.14622343]

>>14622330
Lategame is boring.

[Anonymous No.14622357]

>>14622330
stop playing games

[Anonymous No.14622359]

>>14622357
nobody can work all the time and art inspires

[Anonymous No.14622360]

>>14622359
games aren't art

[Anonymous No.14622369]

>>14622357
What do you do in your free time?

[Anonymous No.14622375]

>>14622369
>free time?
what's that?

[Anonymous No.14622378]

>>14622369
>his job lets him have free time
NGMI

[Anonymous No.14622381]

>>14622378
>>14622375
Even Elon has time to shitpost on twitter.
And you are currently shitpositng on 4channel.

[Anonymous No.14622389]

so can I have a qrd on when the spaceX orbital spaceflight is actually going to happen?
FAA gave their green light isn't it?

[Anonymous No.14622395]

>>14622389
if things go well then maybe august or september

[Anonymous No.14622396]

>>14622389
>orbital
never

[Anonymous No.14622402]

>>14622330
It's a city-builder with more micromanagement than most people are used to and a bunch of near-worthless DLC, some of which is actual mods for the game they repackaged and sell with profit-sharing to the modders which is an unheard of but welcome answer to the "so why don't you just make your own game" question

The random game challenges that are basically your story arc for that run are an interesting twist on the metanarratives people build around their choices in a city-builder

[Anonymous No.14622410]

>>14622389
>when the spaceX orbital spaceflight is actually going to happen
After SLS

[Anonymous No.14622420]

>>14622389
In my opinion, not earlier than September.
Both Booster and Ship have yet to perform successful static fires. Then you have launch infrastructure that isn't finished, claws are also still missing from the QD arm. Lots of stuff to do.
Launch in 2022 is a very optimistic scenario.

[Anonymous No.14622460]

>>14622106
and gainz trainz

[Anonymous No.14622464]

>>14622183

[Anonymous No.14622471]

>>14621855
anyone but liverpool

[Anonymous No.14622489]

>>14622389
7/24

[Anonymous No.14622491]

/k/ is trying to math out a space rifle again
>>>/k/54271226
>Basically my idea for solving the issue of over heating and recoil is to mount a pressurized canister containing 1 kg of liquid ammonia under the barrel/as near as possible to the chamber, and a Cold Gas Thruster nozzles somewhere near the barrel end, pointing backwards/slightly to the side. Then come up with a way to link a mechanical valve to the gas operating system of the AR, so that as you fire the gun, and the bolt cycles, it briefly opens the valve and some of the pressurized ammonia is vented through heat pipes on the surface of the barrel, and out from the thrusters at the same time as the gun fires the actual boolet.

>The number I came up with is that with 1kg bottle of pressurized liquid ammonia, you could "suck out" roughly 1372 Kilojoules of heat energy away from the gun just by venting the bottle and letting the liquid ammonia vaporize. Assuming roughly 60% of the energy from firing a gun is lost to heat, that means you could counteract the heating from firing approximately 460 rounds with one container of liquid ammonia. I think that would be kinda cool.

[Anonymous No.14622493]

>>14622491
>Now I'm not an engineer, so I have no idea how to actually calculate the amount of thrust you could get out of 1kg of pressurized ammonia, and how to adjust it to compensate for the recoil, but maybe some enterprising anon could come up with guesstimate for the amount of thrust you could get from 1kg of pressurized liquid ammonia.

movement and cooling in one package, could it work?
also its a neat idea but spraying a bunch of ammonia around might not be the smartest idea

[Anonymous No.14622516]

>>14621944
>How hard will it be to diy your own gun once on Mars?
With your Neuralink implant, you won't want to do anything like that

[Anonymous No.14622530]

>>14622050
>the iss almost never made it
if only we were so lucky

[Anonymous No.14622541]

>>14622050
>garver is a terrible writer
why

[Anonymous No.14622547]

>>14622493
Better than some options. Decomposing hydrazine into ammonia, for example.

[Anonymous No.14622554]

>>14622491
/k/ needs to spend less time trying to figure out space rifles and fantasy spaceships and more time on grappling arms and jamming

[Anonymous No.14622566]

>>14622152
>what makes it not gay?
space autistes reeeeeeeing everytime something too retardedly implausible was proposed

[Anonymous No.14622573]

>>14622491
At that point, you can just build a rocket engine and use that as the weapon.

[Anonymous No.14622575]

Will they make it?

[Anonymous No.14622587]

>>14622575
not a chance

[Anonymous No.14622591]

>>14622245
Next year probably. Maybe one bites the dust this year.

[Anonymous No.14622592]

>>14622575
On time? Yes.
Off the pad? Yes.
In one piece? No.

[Anonymous No.14622594]

>>14622575
you just know they won't have it ready for the first few days of this
then they will encounter a small problem take 5 days to figure it out/fix it
then no more time left

[Anonymous No.14622635]

SOOOON

[Anonymous No.14622650]

>>14622594
Don't forget the random lightning strike(s) and/or hurricanes. It's not that easy in Florida.

[Anonymous No.14622651]

>>14622635
putting the lego bits together was easy
the piping and wiring took months

[Anonymous No.14622666]

>>14622651
Most of the piping is done on the lego bits before its mounted now.

[Anonymous No.14622683]

It's over

[Anonymous No.14622694]

Which New Space launch companies you guys reckon will survive 5 years in the future? Based on their (admittedly) short track record, I would bet on Rocket Lab, Relativity and Firefly. [Exclude the ones with billionaire owners (SpaceX, BO, and Virgin) as they are all "sustainable" for the near future as long as their owners don't withdraw their support.]

[Anonymous No.14622698]

where do you get an accurate number of active satellites currently in orbit?

[Anonymous No.14622714]

>>14622651
>the piping and wiring took months
It was also the first one they built, so there was an engineering curve.
This (as far as I know) is a copy so it should be done more quickly.

[Anonymous No.14622743]

>>14622541
reading her stuff is like reading a resume with moralising, invective and interesting stuff mixed in.

[Anonymous No.14622757]

>>14622050
>Bolden couldn't find his way out of a paper bag
This was hilarious to me, especially when the obama admin basically just made him a figure head and went to Lori for real work.
>Garver is still salty that a boy band member went to space instead of herself.
Nice reading comprehension anon, neither of them went to space.

[Anonymous No.14622766]

He made a new video and we missed it....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36KN5FIEY4k

[Anonymous No.14622768]

>>14622766
I posted it

[Anonymous No.14622775]

EARTHER (derogatory)

[Anonymous No.14622788]

>>14621944
the colony will consist entirely of people with engineering skills, whenever they aren't outright engineers
making firearms on mars would be so retardedly easy its not even funny

[Anonymous No.14622797]

I think Mars is going to be almost Steampunk once the first nukeplants come online. Any system that can be built with local steel, powered with local water and heat, with a bit of oil for lubrication is going to be much easier to ISRU than anything with electronics.

[Anonymous No.14622803]

>>14621944
Anything with velocity greater than the resistant strength of suit fabric would be considered a projectile weapon on Mars. If you created a rudimentary cross bow that used like 8 layers of rubber bands and your "bullet" was a needle, given Mars' low gravity, that ballistic object would retain its velocity and travel greater distances before falling back to the ground.

So to enforce law or peace, you don't need an actual gun with a bullet as that has massive risk issues on the hab maintaining pressure; you only need something that can incapacitate at best and be able to puncture flesh or fabric but not steel.

[Anonymous No.14622806]

>>14622743
>>14622541
>>14622050
Her book is closer to a stream of consciousness than it is a "book" that's been framed to have a politically expedient slant/angle/whatever the fuck you want to call it. It's her "I've lived too long and put up with too much shit to have politics, at the cusp of the next age, get in the fucking way of something extraordinary. So here's what I think, and if you don't like that; fuck you."

[Anonymous No.14622807]

>>14622803
Hand held claymores

[Anonymous No.14622822]

kerolox-powered internal combustion engine

[Anonymous No.14622827]

>>14622775
redpill me on earthers.

[Anonymous No.14622832]

>>14622807

[Anonymous No.14622835]

>starlink uses carrier grade NAT
wow its literally unusable from the get go. 4chan probably has it range banned already.

[Anonymous No.14622838]

>>14622832
If only the soviet union was more competent, this could have been reality

[Anonymous No.14622849]

Martians will fight with roggs and crossbows

[Anonymous No.14622851]

>>14622838
Thankfully we have China now, at least they are not running low on money.

[Anonymous No.14622852]

>>14622083
Well first you need to define "won."

[Anonymous No.14622853]

>>14622827
Every earther should take a very specific pill one day. So that we may have apple blossoms on Mars.

[Anonymous No.14622854]

>>14622827
What do you call an Earther crushed by an asteroid?
>A duster

What do you call a million Earthers crushed by an asteroid?
>A good start

What do you call 8 billion Earthers crushed by an asteroid?
>Necessary

[Anonymous No.14622855]

>>14622835
Please elaborate why the average customer should care.

[Anonymous No.14622856]

>>14622852
In Wolfenstein they had a base on Venus.

[Anonymous No.14622861]

>>14622694
Less than ten.

[Anonymous No.14622869]

>>14622855
its like being on mobile. 1 person is ban evading = everyone on the isp gets banned from the site.

[Anonymous No.14622879]

>>14622869
Oh fuck.

[Anonymous No.14622888]

>>14622803
Peace is boring. We need lawlessness and war on Mars

[Anonymous No.14622891]

>>14622856
Why do alternate universes where the “heccin bad guys” win always have superior technology?

[Anonymous No.14622895]

Blue Origin is working on TWO BE4's simultaneously. How can SpaceX ever compete???

[Anonymous No.14622918]

>>14622694
Five years is too short, some profitless companies could hang on longer, especially with public money.
>I would bet on Rocket Lab, Relativity and Firefly
Good answer but those are noteworthy because they're getting out of small-lift, one of them has never launched and another failed to reach orbit. Neutron and Firefly Beta will be only partially reusable as full reusability is too hard at the lower end of medium-lift and there's only so much NotSpaceX revenue.
>Virgin
They could fail too, Branson has one foot out the door and both of his space companies are public. VO is better than VG as air launch is stupid but they have a niche in selling their service to other countries. VG is indefensible.

[Anonymous No.14622921]

>>14622891
That's actually our universe

[Anonymous No.14622923]

howler monkey screeching about imaginary racism
>how come errrryone can read and do math except me? thats racist!!

[Anonymous No.14622925]

>>14622918
Rocket lab is investing in other non launch related revenues, satellite manufacturing for example, which may keep them alive.

[Anonymous No.14622940]

>>14622925
>satellite manufacturing for example
There's also their vaporware satellite constellation. It's far easier to make vertical integration work in medium-lift than in small-lift.

[Anonymous No.14622953]

>>14622891
The Nazis realistically could never have won WWII. It took a miracle for them to win in Wolfenstein’s universe, which was superior technology there.

>>14622923
Don’t be mean. You don’t know what he’s talking about. Don’t judge someone by their skin color.

[Anonymous No.14622964]

>>14622923
???

[Anonymous No.14622967]

>>14622923
Get help

[Anonymous No.14622990]

>>14622923
you have poison in you, put there by people who want you to work against your countrymen

[Anonymous No.14622992]

>>14622797
Your mistake, beyond being an animetard(Touhou is included), is believing it's easier to build a nuclear plant than to ISRU a solar array or that it would be cost effective. Most energy produced on Mars will be electrical energy rather than thermal energy, with most of it going into water electrolysis. The Sabatier process would use heat but electric resistance heating is 100% efficient and there is also electromethanogenesis.

[Anonymous No.14622999]

we need gas stations on mars

[Anonymous No.14623005]

>>14622797
>Nuclear
>1 AU

Why?

IMO beamed space solar power would be a great option for power on the dark side of the moon.
No atmospheric attenuation and in the long term you could presumably make and launch the panels from the Moon's surface.

[Anonymous No.14623008]

>>14622953
>The Nazis realistically could never have won WWII.
Sure they could. Just imagine a world without FDR and his admin full of Soviet simps and spies pumping American materials into the Russians to stop their complete collapse

[Anonymous No.14623010]

>>14623005
I read mars as the moon for some reason sorry.
I still think SBSP has good potential for providing power in the lunar night, you could even just have a mirror and do directly beamed daytime.

[Anonymous No.14623016]

>>14623008
The US government's decision to support the USSR over Germany was rational and had little to do with ideology in the big picture.
A German led Europe was much more threatening to US interests than split in two by the USSR.

[Anonymous No.14623017]

>>14622953
>The Nazis realistically could never have won WWII.
They totally could have. Say; the Allies don’t aid the Soviet Union, or Japan invades them from the East, or even they let them into the Axis and split the spoils, could have turned out differently for many reasons

[Anonymous No.14623038]

>>14623016
>Jew interests

[Anonymous No.14623044]

>>14622999
>get an actual electric car with solar power generation to mars
>its driven 100 miles in one day

[Anonymous No.14623052]

>>14623016
>A German led Europe was much more threatening to US interests than split in two by the USSR
Stalin would have got all of Germany and France without the A-bomb coming along. Just a pause for breath from '45 to '47 and the Red Army would go west again

[Anonymous No.14623057]

>>14623005
Earth Moon L-2 seems like the perfect spot to put a bunch of solar panels and beam power down to the far side of the Moon since the high power lasers wouldn't be a threat to Earthers and industry activity will not seen by them. It's also the best place for a depot outside LEO because interplanetary transits from L2 require the least amount of delta-v and water can be brought up from the lunar surface to be used as propellant for solar electric space tugs. Beamed power also works surface to surface.

[Anonymous No.14623061]

>>14622835
>>14622869
IPv4 was exhausted years ago. CGNAT is the only choice for new ISPs. Blame chinkmoot for not turning on IPv6.

[Anonymous No.14623063]

>>14623052
Based Stalin

[Anonymous No.14623064]

>>14622992
Solar panels require complex silicon fabrication to be worthwhile. Nukeplants can be built with 1950s tech.

[Anonymous No.14623065]

>>14622895
>inspirational quote
soulless

[Anonymous No.14623066]

>>14623008
>>14623017
I meant realistically if the US didn’t support the allies. The game he’s referencing is basically our timeline except something magical happens in 1944 and the Germans discover new technology
The US intervening for the allies was a deathblow to the axis

[Anonymous No.14623067]

>>14622990
Retard moment

[Anonymous No.14623070]

>>14623066
>basically our timeline except something magical happens in 1944 and the Germans discover new technology
If only.

[Anonymous No.14623071]

>>14622888
That's easy, spend the first 30 years exploring the planet in a hope of making a discovery of alien artifacts or someshit. Find one and you'll have the world set aside its differences, pool money together, to get a piece of the pie. Over the next 30 years, massive innovation in science, technology, and medicine, will inevitably create a group of haves and a group of have nots, some of whom will have their religious sensibilities offended in some arbitrary and idiotic ways, leading to acts of terrorism and assassination, that will inevitably trigger the first interplanetary war.

You need peace to have war. Faggot.

[Anonymous No.14623075]

>>14623067
Don’t be racist

[Anonymous No.14623082]

>>14623075
I'm not a christian, theres no reason not to be 'racist'

[Anonymous No.14623083]

Robert H Lawrence was based he should’ve been the first black American astronaut

>In June 1967, Lawrence successfully completed the U.S. Air Force Test Pilot School (Class 66B) at Edwards AFB, California. The same month, he was selected by the USAF as an astronaut in the Air Force's Manned Orbital Laboratory (MOL).
> Lawrence and other MOL astronauts laughed when asked at the announcement "Will you have to sit in the back seat of the capsule?" When asked if his selection was historic for race relations in the United States, Lawrence answered "No, I don't think so. It's another one of those things that we look forward to in civil rights — normal progression."

Rip. He was killed when he tried to eject from an aircraft and it failed.

> Donald H. Peterson, chosen for MOL with Lawrence, said "I can't speak for all the people in Mississippi" but that he was not reluctant to work with a black man

[Anonymous No.14623088]

>>14623082
I’m not Christian either, I’m just not racist. Who hurt you?

[Anonymous No.14623090]

>>14623088
>I’m not just racist
You should be.

[Anonymous No.14623094]

If NASA can tolerate Russians then you surely should be able to tolerate black people.

[Anonymous No.14623095]

>>14623088
If you form preferences whatsoever, then some slimy piece of shit just like you is going to accuse you of being racist at some point. You need to grow up.

[Anonymous No.14623096]

>>14623095
victor glover is reason enough to not be racist

[Anonymous No.14623098]

>>14623096
For me, it's Elon Musk.

[Anonymous No.14623108]

>>14623088
>>14623090
If given a choice between a white EARTHER and a black guy doing work for a space company, you can call me Abraham Lincoln.

But if all black children in the country had to starve so NASA could receive an extra penny, I'd buy that Alabama river rock in a second.

[Anonymous No.14623110]

>>14623064
>Solar panels require complex silicon fabrication to be worthwhile
Not necessarily but it's much easier to create a vacuum on Mars in order to refine high purity silicon.
>Nukeplants can be built with 1950s tech
1950s PWRs won't work on Mars and the reactors will need to use a supercritical carbon dioxide Brayton cycle turbine, a challenging technology that isn't even used on Earth despite having higher efficiency than steam turbines. Also a nuclear plant requires electronics so the original point makes no sense, not to mention uranium production is a whole different can of worms.

[Anonymous No.14623112]

>>14623096
I think Victor Glover would get along with and feel comfortable around an actual self-admitted nigger hating white man.

Leftists like you that grovel at the feet of all blacks are creepy and off-putting. It's like, uncomfortably off-putting how leftists act. You see this in newspaper articles about little Jaquavius at the middle school joining the chess club, oh and by the way he's *black*. You're doing that shit with Victor Glover and it's WEIRD. Stop.

[Anonymous No.14623114]

>>14623057
>since the high power lasers wouldn't be a threat to Earthers
At least that's what we'll tell 'em

[Anonymous No.14623121]

>>14623108
Not racist but space is the only issue I care about so I’m with you 100% lol. I’m >>14623088

[Anonymous No.14623122]

>>14623112
nice strawman

[Anonymous No.14623125]

Not really spaceflight but I saw a pic of the inside of a skull with the brain removed and I realized that our bodies are really just our brain piloting a vehicle. Blew my mind.

Also what the fuck is up with Neutron? We heard it’s announcement then nothing. Terran Retard has more hype.

[Anonymous No.14623148]

>>14623125
You'd think they would be showing off Archimedes bits by now if they were on schedule. Since the December announcement, we've gotten the Wallops announcement, them going back on barge landings, and a job posting for an Archimedes manager that involved significant design work or something.
It's crazy thinking back to a year or two ago, when Peter Beck regularly got interviewed by every middling podcaster/youtuber/blogger, but now he's shut away. Going public can change a company.

[Anonymous No.14623153]

>>14623125
The issue with Neutron is that they have no engines. Terran R will use seven Aeon R engines on the first stage and somehow a single upper stage engine which is the same one used on Terran 1. I don't get how that's possible without the first stage being like a SSTO, the T/W must be incredibly low. How will it land?

[Anonymous No.14623155]

>>14622050
>>garver is a terrible writer
She's not actually terrible, but I wouldn't call her good. Its a shame that her corroboration with Michael Sheetz fell through, that probably would have made a much better written book.

[Anonymous No.14623156]

>>14623155
lmao i guess if you want her book full of clickbait statements and filler. what a goofy thing to say

[Anonymous No.14623157]

>>14623148
Mate RocketLab going public seems like it was a shite idea. They now are at the mercy of their shareholders, and their stock is tanking despite successful launches.
On a personal note, I hate those investor shits who post that moon emoji with a rocket underneath every RocketLab tweet. No reason, just irritating.

>>14623153
>“Trust the plan lol”
We have no idea how R will be reused. Maybe they’ll have it land like a plane? I seriously think Terran R will be semi-reusable for a while

[Anonymous No.14623163]

>>14623157
it will be fully reusable just like how Falcon 1 and Falcon 9 were marketed as fully reusable. It's a convenient lie you tell for funding

[Anonymous No.14623176]

i find it funny more than one of the rocket girl artists are train autists from southeast asia.

[Anonymous No.14623209]

>>14621855
A Blue Lover

[Anonymous No.14623210]

Mike McCulloch - Using New Physics to get to Alpha Centauri in a Human Lifetime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45E822mP59Q

[Anonymous No.14623218]

>>14623125
>>14623148
Have RocketLab ever made a turbopump?

[Anonymous No.14623228]

>>14623210
Jesus Christ, demonstrate a QI thruster in space or admit it doesn't work. There are no excuses when rideshare spaces are so cheap.

[Anonymous No.14623237]

>>14622493
>so I have no idea how to actually calculate the amount of thrust you could get out of 1kg of pressurized ammonia
Find ammonia temperature and nozzle expansion ratio. You're basically looking for Isp then calculating the total impulse of 1kg of propellant. The answer btw is, very low (likely less than 100 seconds but bear in mind I'm a retarded nigger)

[Anonymous No.14623239]

>>14623228
You just lost a seat on Starprobe 1

[Anonymous No.14623241]

>>14622566
That thing makes zero sense unless you add a cable that tethers it to a counterweight 500 meters away and the whole thing is actually spinning at several rpm.

[Anonymous No.14623246]

>>14622766
YOU missed it, we all saw it.

[Anonymous No.14623252]

>>14623241
http://www.astronautix.com/s/spacestation1970.html
>The Space Station core module was primarily designed for a zero-G environment. It was 10 m in diameter, 16.5 m long, and had five deck levels with a total volume of 930 cubic meters. The station was to be protected from meteoroids with a fixed inner bumper and a deployable radiator and outer bumper. As launched, it was equipped for an initial artificial-g experiment using the spent S-II stage as a counterweight. Cables and other equipment to deploy the S-II stage were located in an Artificial Gravity Module (AGM) located between the Space Station and the S-II stage. The artificial-g experiment could be repeated up to five times with a maximum duration each time of 30 days. After completion of the artificial-g experiments the associated hardware would be jettisoned. The station configuration thereafter provided positions for two shuttle docking ports and five experiment module docking ports.
>After successful completion of the artificial-g operations, the S-II and artificial gravity hardware would be disposed on in the South-eastern Pacific. The Space Station would then operate at zero-g far the remaining eight years and nine months of its 10 year design life.

[Anonymous No.14623260]

>>14623252
Fucking lol. Why even go partial on the commitment to a spin station? Just fucking build the spin station dammit.

[Anonymous No.14623267]

>>14623016
The US government's decision to not destroy the USSR after defeating Germany was entirely irrational.
>>14623017
Again, "win" is very loose. In Hitler's eyes winning meant completely destroying or subjugating the other world powers, including the US and UK, which was never going to happen. If speaking of a mainland Europe mostly united under the Reich then it's perfectly possible if you somehow either get Hitler to completely change his mind on wanting to attack the US or remove him from the picture.
>>14623252
Amazing.

[Anonymous No.14623280]

>>14623267
>In Hitler's eyes winning meant completely destroying or subjugating the other world powers, including the US and UK
Nonsense, German hegemony from the Atlantic to the Urals was what he was after, the Anglosaxon powers couldn't do anything once he got that

[Anonymous No.14623282]

>>14623267
>In Hitler's eyes winning meant completely destroying or subjugating the other world powers, including the US and UK
No lol
Germany offered peace to the UK multiple times.

[Anonymous No.14623283]

>>14623176
"artist"

[Anonymous No.14623285]

>>14623280
>>14623282
Hitler wanted to declare war on the United States in I believe 1943, assuming everything had gone to plan. The Reich declaring war on the United States is a lose condition. In no realistic world can the Reich win if that is allowed to happen, which is why avoiding that is the chief concern in all alternate history scenarios of this type.
If I am misinformed on Hitler's goals then please prove me wrong.

[Anonymous No.14623287]

>>14623285
>If I am misinformed on Hitler's goals then please prove me wrong.
Already did.

[Anonymous No.14623288]

>>14622694
the smallsat launcher bloodbath is going to be fun to watch

[Anonymous No.14623292]

>>14623287
You didn't. Hitler didn't want peace between Germany and America.

[Anonymous No.14623294]

>>14623292
Prove it (you cannot)

[Anonymous No.14623297]

>>14623294
He literally stated that he wanted New York City to burn on numerous occasions. That's not exactly something that can happen without the US going to war with them.

[Anonymous No.14623299]

>>14623285
>Hitler wanted to declare war on the United States in I believe 1943
What
Germany declared war on the U.S. in 1941 after Pearl Harbor was attacked by Japan
>If I am misinformed on Hitler's goals then please prove me wrong.
You think he was a cartoon villain or something. Hitler’s long-term territorial ambitions were almost entirely eastward, with some desire for the return of their African territories as well.

[Anonymous No.14623310]

>>14623297
>He literally stated that he wanted New York City to burn on numerous occasions
Who hasn't

[Anonymous No.14623311]

Hitler was retarded. Dude could’ve been proto-Elon and rebuilt Germany’s economy and technology without the fascist or WWII thing and he would be a hero.

Von Braun is the most based of the WWII Germans though. He didn’t care about Nazi ideology; he just wanted to go to space

[Anonymous No.14623315]

So SpaceX isn’t doing full duration static fire tests with Superheavy or Starship. This is expected because it’s impossible. Is this a mistake? Falcon 9 goes through a lot of testing before it flies that Starship/Superheavy don’t do

[Anonymous No.14623318]

>>14622566
higher quality version i found on ntrs a while back

[Anonymous No.14623320]

>>14623311
>dude should have just made his country better without actually making it better, which requires fascism

[Anonymous No.14623324]

>>14623311
>Hitler was retarded. Dude could’ve been proto-Elon and rebuilt Germany’s economy and technology without the fascist or WWII thing and he would be a hero.
Nah, Stalin was building a huge military force and it was coming westward sooner or later

[Anonymous No.14623327]

>>14623318
Was the ass necessary

[Anonymous No.14623328]

>>14623320
>Fascism is good
? I thought this general was above /pol/ Nazi worship

>>14623324
Stalin is evil and it disgusts me how people jerk off the USSR in WWII without realizing the US propped them up with supplies

[Anonymous No.14623331]

>>14623315
>Is this a mistake?
No, it'll be fine.

[Anonymous No.14623335]

>>14623327
yeah he needs it to poop

[Anonymous No.14623338]

>>14623328
>? I thought this general was above /pol/ Nazi worship
fascism =! nazis, get over it.

[Anonymous No.14623339]

>>14623328
>I thought this general was above /pol/ Nazi worship
lol lmao

[Anonymous No.14623341]

>>14623328
Half the people here use rhetoric similar to the Nazis when they talk about colonizing Mars and holocausting Earth with asteroids.

[Anonymous No.14623346]

>>14623315
They dont do them for Falcon 9 anymore, why would they do it with Starship? Waste of time, money, fuel. WE GAAN

[Anonymous No.14623347]

>>14623328
>stolon ebul
One of the great men of history, possessed with astounding will to power. He will be hated and admired for centuries to come, and you will be forgotten.

[Anonymous No.14623352]

>>14622253
Shuttle-C/Orion is super cursed though

[Anonymous No.14623354]

>>14623282
yeah the uk accepting a german peace treaty in 1940 leading to a 4-way british/german/soviet/american space race would be a great alt history exercise.

[Anonymous No.14623359]

>>14623297
Wanting NYC to burn is normal though
Its always been a fucking shithole

[Anonymous No.14623366]

>>14623315
Why do you think this one is flying?

[Anonymous No.14623367]

>>14623347
As a fascist, it has to be said that Stalin played his cards excellently, save from April to December 1941. His grand strategy got him half of Europe, China and the dissolution (FDR a big help here) of European empires, leaving those lands open to Red agitprop and takeover

[Anonymous No.14623370]

14622992
All anti anime posters are redditors that should be permabanned

[Anonymous No.14623371]

>>14622330
Just pirate it with all the DLC except the cave one. It's funfor a single playthrough.

[Anonymous No.14623374]

Whatever happened to New Jarvis? Or New Bloon? https://youtu.be/f8hoK3uNslA

[Anonymous No.14623375]

>14623370
All anime posters are redditors that should be permabanned

[Anonymous No.14623377]

To the poster yesterday who said guns will be banned in space, come and take it

[Anonymous No.14623381]

>>14622149
>thee SpaceX-Expy in S3 was founded like 6 years before the “present” and they have a mars ship built.
They just strapped engines onto a space hotel that had been built by another company
>SpaceX is 20 and they’re not there yet.
Space X had to design all of their launch vehicles
The company in the show exists in a universe where NASA has been mass producing Sea Dragon rockets for rideshares since the early 80s

[Anonymous No.14623382]

>>14623311
I was watching a lecture on orbital mechanics the other day and during one of the slides the presenter said that not only will he not show an image of Von Braun because of his Nazi connections but he won't show an image of Hermann Oberth either.
>>14623370
Cry

[Anonymous No.14623385]

>>14623375
Mad?

[Anonymous No.14623387]

>>14623377
>come and take it
>weapon confiscated T-2:56:32
>anon is fired two weeks later
The people taking your gun away in space are the people who launch you to space.

[Anonymous No.14623388]

>>14623366
It has wings.

[Anonymous No.14623391]

14623385
2/10, try harder next thread

[Anonymous No.14623397]

>>14623391
Yup, mad

[Anonymous No.14623398]

>>14623387
you can't reason with these mopes, they think its gonna be just like settling the American frontier lmao

[Anonymous No.14623402]

>>14623387
Dumbass, they sent a 3D printer

[Anonymous No.14623405]

>>14623398
It will be exactly like that. And I'll shoot you

[Anonymous No.14623410]

>>14623398
>>14623405
the role of land speculation in fueling westward settlement is underappreciated and if we want to have big space rushes in the next few centuries we're probably going to need some sort of international treaty that allows for homesteading mars and moons and asteroids

[Anonymous No.14623411]

>>14623402
man's gonna 3d print some gunpowder is he?
>uuh Anon you know we can see everything you try and print right?
>why are you trying to make a pistol, you don't even have bullets or powder
>Anon's autis-mo-print pistol is as durable as the lego pistol you built at age 7
>explodes due to his homemade powder from voletiles
>ACK!
>dies
>the first revolution in space becomes a worldwide punchline

[Anonymous No.14623413]

>>14623398
umm it is the American frontier, Mars belongs to us

[Anonymous No.14623417]

>>14623374
YouTube comments are retarded. Middle one is alright though.

[Anonymous No.14623420]

>>14623411
see >>14622849

[Anonymous No.14623419]

>>14623405
This ones getting uppity, turn his Neuralink to Max. Submissive

[Anonymous No.14623421]

>>14623341
No, we aren't pussies like the nazis, we have no need to concentration camps. Earthers get the roggs any time they start acting up, simple as.

[Anonymous No.14623422]

>>14623411
If you dont let me excercise my God-given rights, I will poke holes in the fucking hab

[Anonymous No.14623423]

>>14623417
>Like, am I stupid.
Just say yes.

[Anonymous No.14623424]

>>14623422
What hab? Your trailer?
What makes tards like you think that you'll pass even basic mental and physical checks

[Anonymous No.14623427]

>>14623424
I'm a paying customer, poorfag

[Anonymous No.14623429]

>>14623424
Being independently minded is a positive trait they want
Being brain rotted by estrogen is not

[Anonymous No.14623430]

>>14623427
>I paid to get on this plane and I get to do whatever I like
lol, americans

[Anonymous No.14623431]

>>14623424
i too dream of a future when only humorless postdocs who've spent decades having every creative impulse beaten out of them will be allowed off earth

[Anonymous No.14623432]

>>14623424
>mental and physical checks
LMAO ever heard of commercial spaceflight?

[Anonymous No.14623434]

>>14623424
>What makes tards like you think that you'll pass even basic mental and physical checks
The only check they do in the future is checking to see if you can afford to buy a ticket.

[Anonymous No.14623435]

>>14623429
You're not independently minded, you're autistically and separatistically minded, only crossbow bolts will wait for you on Mars. They won't need people like you

[Anonymous No.14623438]

>>14623430
Europoor, even better. How's your human spaceflight program going?

[Anonymous No.14623446]

>>14623432
>>14623434
>gets no fly listed due to endangering others and the vehicle
lol

[Anonymous No.14623448]

>>14623210
how is this guy still getting funding

[Anonymous No.14623450]

>>14623432
>>14623434
> commercial spaceflight means they'll be willing to ship any rich schizo anywhere
If they agree to be sedated for the months long trip, maybe

[Anonymous No.14623451]

https://youtu.be/QMeoGh24iOk
who the fuck is the bearded guy? he is so incredibly annoying, someone get him off the stream

[Anonymous No.14623452]

Elon saw what snuffing out the Boer spirit did to South Africa. SpaceX's 3D printers and lathes will come preloaded with assault rifle schematics.

The twentieth "building" on Mars will be a firing range.

[Anonymous No.14623453]

Mars is my birthright. Timmy at corporate security can fuck around and find out.

[Anonymous No.14623457]

>>14623446
I just shot you, so I have no opposition

[Anonymous No.14623461]

China’s new station is fake. They posted supposed videos of it where there’s a glass of water on a table.

[Anonymous No.14623462]

dune is the best sci-fi movie in recent time

[Anonymous No.14623463]

>>14623448
1,300,000 $ from DARPA he claims in that video at the 7 minute mark

[Anonymous No.14623464]

NASA
>Only wants a specific few scientists off Earth
SpaceX
>Wants anyone who wants to go off Earth to be able to

And normies think SpaceX is the bad guy? The fuck?

[Anonymous No.14623466]

i want to die of suffocation because the anti-anime schizo can't figure out it was me who keeps proonting irina figurines and hiding them around the mars base so he decides he needs to blow up the ventilation and kill us all

[Anonymous No.14623467]

>>14623462
forgot pic

[Anonymous No.14623471]

>>14623467
The worm is the spice

[Anonymous No.14623472]

>>14623462
I wouldn't call 1984 recent

[Anonymous No.14623473]

The Martian accurately depicts frontier life on Mars, from violent storms to the cozy warmth from a radioisotope thermoelectric generator

[Anonymous No.14623474]

>>14623450
>commercial spaceflight means they'll be willing to ship any rich schizo anywhere
Yes. Mormons will outbreed whatever onions-atheist colony you’re envisioning when they land

[Anonymous No.14623476]

>>14623473
The Martian is a good movie and I’m tired of pretending it’s not

[Anonymous No.14623477]

>>14623466
I'm glad I ignored those EPA requirements for a Mars EIS and drilled my own tunnel with an independent air filtration system, so I can also ignore your guys' idiocy.

[Anonymous No.14623481]

>>14623466
Ok, I'm gonna say it:
Based

[Anonymous No.14623483]

>>14623374
>New Jarvis
They rolled out a test tank and it's just sat there for like a year with no visible activity. Recently they were hiring for Jarvis.

>New Bloon
Turned into the National Team. Speaking of whom, when are we gonna hear who's rebidding on the lander?

[Anonymous No.14623485]

>>14623473
>>14623476
Absolutely retarded and inaccurate pop-sci movie and you should feel bad for shilling it.

[Anonymous No.14623487]

>get restrained on his 6 month flight to Mars
>one of the lucky few, media wonders how this opportunity was wasted on you
>arrive at Mars
>the settlement is willing to give you a chance
>act like a complete anarchist
>isolate yourself from the colony
>eventually they decide to let you go
>sending you back is too risky for the crew
>wonder outside the airlock
>spacesuit only has 23% oxygen remaining
>claim your kingdom of rust and sand
>die slowly from suffocation
>serve only as a cautionary tale for Martian colonization
>your sad tale becomes a legend
>legend becomes myth
>you are only remembered as "Ozymandias"

[Anonymous No.14623488]

>Raptor 1 Thrust: 185 tons
>Number of Raptors on Booster 4: 29
>Booster 4 total thrust: 5400 tons
Wtf? Booster 4/Ship 20 had a TWR of less than 1.1. Unless they planned to underfuel it or something

[Anonymous No.14623489]

>>14623476
The book *is* better though.

>>14623485
Is there a better "just the good bits of Apollo 13 over and over" sci-fi? Even playing Tin Can is just panicky triage more than repetitive, novel problem solving.

[Anonymous No.14623490]

>>14623488
It was never meant to fly.

[Anonymous No.14623491]

>>14623466
>realizes he's surrounded by weebs
>sacrifices himself to save the future of Mars
based

[Anonymous No.14623494]

>>14623488
elon was talking about a TWR > 1.4 for it so they almost certainly were going to underfuel it

[Anonymous No.14623495]

>>14623464
Goy cattle don't think
They get told their opinions by someone else cause they're either unwilling or unable to create an opinion themselves

[Anonymous No.14623496]

>>14623474
I live in an area with a lot of Mormons, very upstanding and based people. It seems most other Christians are jealous of them. I've asked some of my Mormon coworkers what they thought about Mars colonization and frontierism and it sounds like the Church has plans, although low key

[Anonymous No.14623499]

>>14623483
The three national team competitors are bidding separately now. In the year since HLS, they could’ve build actual hardware, but noooooo

>>14623485
Aside from the dust storm it’s pretty accurate

>>14623487
Touch grass

>>14623489
Realistic near-future Sci-fi? Not really. Interstellar is great IMO but it delves into some very theoretical physics. Hate to keep bringing up For All Mankind, but what makes it so disappointing is that they had a chance to work with a neat premise, and they kind of fumbled.

[Anonymous No.14623505]

>>14623473
No violent storms on Mars

[Anonymous No.14623508]

>>14623496
>other Christians
Mormons ain't Christians

[Anonymous No.14623510]

>>14623496
>although low key
Their public theology has them all becoming Gods of their own planets, and inconveniently Earth is already taken by heavenly father so they would like another one

[Anonymous No.14623511]

Weekends are the worst for Starship stuff. No testing, just blueballs

[Anonymous No.14623513]

You just know the anime spammer doesn't care about space and only comes here to talk about his pedo toons

[Anonymous No.14623516]

>>14623487
At least I didn't build a statue with two left feet

[Anonymous No.14623518]

>>14623513
we know too well, and here he'll come again

[Anonymous No.14623520]

>>14623508
t. jealous non-mormon

[Anonymous No.14623521]

>>14623513
you only come here to talk about poeds, it's on anagram away from being the same shit

[Anonymous No.14623523]

>>14623520
Jealous of what?

[Anonymous No.14623525]

>>14623488
Yes it had a low TWR which is fine for a flight where the Booster wouldn't even do a boostback burn and they are carrying zero payload to orbit.

[Anonymous No.14623527]

>>14623466
Based.

[Anonymous No.14623529]

>>14623513
Fine with me, gives me something to jerk off too. /sfg/ is too serious lately

[Anonymous No.14623530]

>>14623499
No it's not.
>Impossibly thin and light radiation shielding
>Using fuel make water when there is liters of it per cubic meter of regolith
>Burying an RTG to make it "safe" when it relies on its radiators.
>Instantaneous texts sent to Earth and back

You pop-sci cucks will eat any pile dog shit put in front of you and ask for seconds.

[Anonymous No.14623532]

>>14623513
that's right, schizo. i spent years absorbing every piece of autistic trivia i could find on the internet about spaceflight so i could perfectly blend in with the rest of /sfg/. i knew that one day you would show up and it was all part of my master plan to irritate you.

[Anonymous No.14623533]

Opinion on Lockheed’s MADV?

[Anonymous No.14623534]

>>14623481
still can't believe the space shuttle 41%'d herself :(

[Anonymous No.14623537]

>>14623508
This.

[Anonymous No.14623540]

>>14623520
Its just a fact that their beliefs preclude them from being Christians, just as Muslim beliefs preclude them from being Christians

[Anonymous No.14623541]

>>14623530
Lol fuck you.
>Radiation
Explained in the book. It’s handwaved away but its a plot point.
>Making fuel
Not everywhere on Mars has icy regolith. And the book came out when we had a bit less knowledge of Mars.
>Burying the RTG
Goof from the book that carries into the movie.
>Instant texts
Not actually instant, the scene cuts in the movie make it look instant.

>Pop-Sci
Oh noooooo an anon likes a piece of media I’m going insane ahhhhhh

[Anonymous No.14623543]

>>14623534
She lives on in new spaceplanes :)

[Anonymous No.14623547]

>>14623543
>>14623534
We need more anthropomorphic Starship.

[Anonymous No.14623548]

>>14623496
Religious fertility nutbars colonizing space is a good thing no matter what your personal ideology is because having an infinite human generator exponentially growing and spreading across the cosmos sets up the conditions for localized ideological instabilities that cause the places that already have been colonized to fragment into a large variety of new cultures. This is literally how Europeans colonized America. The frontier develops a culture that allows it to sustain itself, but the frontier must also always keep moving out farther, and the people that don't follow the frontier don't have that continuous selective pressure against anything that doesn't result in a high birth rate and ability to deal with harsh conditions.

[Anonymous No.14623550]

>>14623464
True, don't even remind me
>With SpaceX only rich people can go to space reeeee
As opposed to only a handful of waaaay over-qualified individuals with 3 PhDs, that had decades of training, are polyglots, were born in the right country, won the genetics lottery, never had any major disease or accident, and even then there's only an extremely, tiny fucking small chance that they get picked just as a possible candidate for going into space, most probably never making it at all, because up until recently only 6 people got to be up there at any given moment. That is, only a 0.000000075% of the world population having that privilege. But yeah, SpaceX bad because not everyone can go from day one, I suppose better shut it down and imprison Elon Musk immediately.

[Anonymous No.14623554]

>>14623547
oddly enough, i havent seen too many new ones. we will when we get to first demo flight

[Anonymous No.14623557]

>>14623508
Never said they were

[Anonymous No.14623559]

>>14623530
>Instantaneous texts sent to Earth and back
>"the book/movie didn't explicitly mention the communication lag every time a message was sent, therefore apart from the first time where the delay WAS explicitly mentioned, those messages were happening instantaneously
So how many more months before you develop object permanence, anon?

[Anonymous No.14623561]

>>14623533
it gets unfairly maligned on /sfg/ because it isn't starship but it was a coherent concept for a reusable lander that would save big on development $$$ by evolving from their lunar lander design. it works better as a moon lander than a mars lander imo.

[Anonymous No.14623562]

>>14623533
Hydrolox cuckshed piece of garbage, desu. I have zero excitement or even interest in that design, because it is dumb.

[Anonymous No.14623564]

>>14623541
>It’s handwaved away but that's okay!
Because it's science fiction, you massive faggot, just like the dust storms that blow you away.
>Not everywhere on Mars has icy regolith
Everywhere on Mars that we've studied has subsurface water, especially the places most likely to be colonized. It's literally the number one consideration for colony selection.
>Oh noooooo an anon likes a piece of media I’m going insane ahhhhhh
Yes, actually. Stop shitting up this general with your trash media and get a life. Hell I'm sure you can go outside and Andy Weir in order to stick his cock down your throat.
>>14623559
> therefore apart from the first time where the delay WAS explicitly mentioned
Where in the movie was this?
>You just gotta read the trash book, bro! It's all in there!

[Anonymous No.14623566]

>>14623533
>hydromeme
dropped

[Anonymous No.14623568]

>>14623561
I'm >>14623562 and I don't agree with the idea that lockmart's vehicle is a coherent design or that it would save money. I do agree that it would function better as a moon lander though, in the form of the naked version you posted.

[Anonymous No.14623569]

>>14623561
Lockmart made a really cool concept which included an orbital propellant refinery.
I hope they win the HLS instead of National Team.

[Anonymous No.14623570]

>>14623533
I think it's a pretty vehicle that would have been appropriate 30-40 years ago.

[Anonymous No.14623573]

>>14623533
>hydrogen for a Mars lander
LMAO

[Anonymous No.14623576]

>>14623570
This

[Anonymous No.14623577]

>>14623547
yes

[Anonymous No.14623590]

>>14623561
>>14623562
Hydrolox works on moon landers because you can fully fuel up your tanks on the lunar surface at the poles. You can’t do that with methane because the moon mostly lacks carbon. On Mars it’s a bit meh because you lose the novelty. Also on Mars, your dry mass is higher because you have a heavy thermal protection, which increases exponentially as the tanks get bigger.

Moon = Hydrolox; Mars = Methane

>>14623570
In an alternate world, MADV would make a great second stage for a reusable rocket. It’s actually pretty light - only 110 tons fully fueled. Falcon 9 S2 is the same mass, maybe a bit more.

>>14623568
>>14623569
It’s a cool design but sadly, Cockmart won’t ever build it without government cash

Also just as a heads up, Lockheed scrapped their Reusable Lunar Lander plan when NASA announced their 2024 landing deadline. Instead, they built a 2 stage expendable lander that itself was canceled when they joined National Team

[Anonymous No.14623593]

>>14623564
I'd rather he stay here, cause making you shit yourself in rage and throw tantrums about all popular things are bad is funny

[Anonymous No.14623595]

>>14623590
the Moon has plenty of carbon for methane ISRU

[Anonymous No.14623600]

>>14623595
Looks like you’re right. Just checked and frozen CO2 has been found at the poles.

[Anonymous No.14623609]

>>14623600
which is to say nothing of the buried volatiles

[Anonymous No.14623613]

What’s up with BE-4? Tory has said they’ve been done since like 2018 and yet they have yet to be delivered to ULA. No way Vulcan flies this year

[Anonymous No.14623614]

>>14623613
>Making a new rocket engine is difficult, and Bruno budgeted extra time into the schedule. “I planned on the BE-4 being late because I knew it was ambitious for them,” Bruno told reporters in April. “I did not plan on them being this late.”

[Anonymous No.14623621]

>>14623613
>Tory said
why would you believe him? lol

[Anonymous No.14623623]

Point to Point rocket travel sounded like a meme for a while but it’s been investigated since like the 50’s. Other than thrill seekers I can’t see who would buy it though, especially if it’s expensive.

[Anonymous No.14623625]

>>14623613
He's a known obfuscator. literally cant answer honestly if the answer paints ULA in a bad light

[Anonymous No.14623626]

>>14623623
IT AINT ME

[Anonymous No.14623630]

>>14623593
Sure because you confused this place for /tv/ and you think your mildly annoying shitposting in defense of your favorite media is justified when it has nothing to do with /sci/ence. The fact remains you have to go back.

[Anonymous No.14623631]

>>14623623
There's a market for NYC to Singapore in an hour rather than a day, don't worry about that. SpaceX won't be filling it though

[Anonymous No.14623632]

>>14623631
aerial refueling on a suborbital rocketplane would take way more than an hour to span the globe

[Anonymous No.14623634]

>>14623623
If starship becomes reliable enough it will just be a meme thing the military will spend money on

[Anonymous No.14623635]

>>14623623
elon was saying $3,000 a ticket. worth it for some people like me.

[Anonymous No.14623641]

>>14623632
fine, two or three hours then, compared to 24 hours by subsonic jets.

[Anonymous No.14623653]

>>14623613
>Tory has said
Tory is a snake who has curated a positive online presence, that's all.

[Anonymous No.14623657]

So where is blorigin exactly? I know they've had test fires but are they test firing engines that are flight capable or just the prototypes before the flight engines?

[Anonymous No.14623663]

>>14623657
Apparently they have flight ready engines now but I'm not expecting to see Vulcan go up this year.
In any case, BO has firmly entrenched itself in irrelevance, because at this point they would need to fire literally everyone and restart with a completely new company in order to produce the work culture necessary to be goal driven and focused on getting results that they'd need to compete with SpaceX and Rocketlab etc.

[Anonymous No.14623677]

>>14623657
Jeff is too busy disrupting the yacht industry.

[Anonymous No.14623688]

>>14623657
Sorry what? I cant hear you over the jets!

[Anonymous No.14623691]

>>14623677
If his yacht doesn't have a smaller boat attached somewhere it's gay

[Anonymous No.14623695]

>>14623663
they have flight-ready engines but they're just not ready for flight yet

[Anonymous No.14623701]

>Tory Bruno
Snake
>Chris Kemp
Snake
>Elon
Autistic and fairly egotistical but well intentioned. The 'literally me' character of spaceflight.
>Gwynne Shotwell
Gets a lot of credit just for being the president of SpaceX but probably very good at her job
>Jeff
A shrewed normie businessman perhaps not necessarily that bad of person despite looking like a stereotypical villain and resorting to underhanded business tactics
>Peter Beck
A bit of an idiot e.g. eating a plastic hat instead of cotton one but the smug hobbit makes you root for him despite the state of his company
>everyone else
Literally who?

[Anonymous No.14623715]

>>14623701
>Elon
>egotistical
What has he done that's exceedingly egotistical?
Whenever something successful happens in one of his companies he always defaults to congratulating his team or thanking NASA or whatever
I think people that hate him have assigned egotism onto him because they can't imagine someone with that amount of success not being egotistical

[Anonymous No.14623722]

>>14623715
Did you forget the whole Pedo diver saga or all the random twitter spats over the years?

[Anonymous No.14623725]

>>14623715
I think people confuse him with not being diplomatic or having a filter as egotistical, now in a sense you could argue that the PR problems he causes just by being honest and speaking his mind are an egotistical concession but id still rather have that then the alternative.

[Anonymous No.14623732]

FarView – An In-Situ Manufactured Lunar Far Side Radio Observatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuA-0DMPgEM

[Anonymous No.14623737]

>>14623701
What about Tim Ellis :(

[Anonymous No.14623744]

>>14623737
Fuckable. Next.

[Anonymous No.14623751]

>>14623722
You call that egotistical? I call that shitposting

[Anonymous No.14623752]

>>14623737
>That 30 something year old who looks perpetually 18 and constantly wonders if his employees take him seriously or not. He doesn't know if he could pull off pretending to be cool like Chris Kemp
>>14623725
(Dis)agreeableness, the personality trait, is separate from egotism. He doesn't just counter bad ideas but he actively goes after anyone who has spoken negatively about him and attempts to show them up. It's his major flaw.

[Anonymous No.14623759]

>>14623752
>It's his major flaw.
It puts the fear of God in his enemies

[Anonymous No.14623761]

>>14623752
Well if he didn't have that chip on his shoulder he probably wouldn't have started SpaceX or put up with getting snubbed by the gov for as long as they did. On the balance I'll take it over half the shit other billionaires get up to.

[Anonymous No.14623768]

>>14623761
It's the tale of the Greek tragic hero. The virtue that drives them to do great works is also the flaw that will be their own doing.

[Anonymous No.14623771]

>>14623768
*own undoing. Fuck I'm drunk.

[Anonymous No.14623775]

>>14623688
I didn't realize Hullo and Bezos were friends

[Anonymous No.14623777]

>>14623722
>White guy
>Former (?) military
>Goes to Thailand
>Land of underage fuckbots and tranners
Sooooo you saying he's into troons?

[Anonymous No.14623783]

>>14623346
They do though. Every single booster gets a full duration static fire at McGregor before shipping out for launch.

[Anonymous No.14623786]

>>14623732
This should be required viewing for anyone interested in how we're going to do ISRU construction on other worlds.

[Anonymous No.14623787]

>>14623722
I mean he told Elon to take his sub and shove it up his ass, how would an autistic person respond to that? Exactly

[Anonymous No.14623790]

>>14623777
>>14623787
>how would an autistic person respond to that? Exactly
It's a lose-lose proposition, Elon shouldn't have done anything and just stuck to his work. By giving that guy attention in any capacity we're giving him what he wants. He was lauded as the hero when the children literally walked out of the cave after the Thai people pumped it dry.

[Anonymous No.14623791]

>>14623722
To be fair what exactly is a middle aged, unmarried expat doing in Thailand?

[Anonymous No.14623793]

>>14623732
>>14623786
>Their concept uses molten oxide electrolysis in two steps to produce a very pure output stream of products
>They are expecting to produce 5000kg of aluminum, 3100kg of magnesium, 3800 kg of silicon, and 14,000 kg of iron per year, with corresponding oxygen gas as a waste product
>also because it's the moon they can use metal and silicon vapor deposition to print kilometers of solar panels
holy moly, is the Moon actually based?

[Anonymous No.14623799]

>>14623793
Yes. It's why I think we should be focusing on cis-lunar industry.

[Anonymous No.14623806]

>>14623623
I wonder how people are going to get around the Gs that induces

Air travel doesn't exceed 1.25 - .75 but suborbital will be several Gs in both launch and landing

[Anonymous No.14623808]

>>14623791
Fucking Thai women like most people like that would be doing? It's unknown but publicly calling someone a pedo and child rapist is just one of those things you need to have evidence to back up or else it just makes you look bad. You could argue that the fault lies with the private investigator who according to Elon sold him bullshit but he went full retard for hiring him in the first place.

[Anonymous No.14623818]

Does anyone remember this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wrk5u8FgbM
Six months away from 2023 and we still don't know who will go

[Anonymous No.14623827]

>>14623775
theyre brothers if you believe it

[Anonymous No.14623830]

>>14623783
they used to do it at the pad everytime. not anymore. soon the mcgregor test fires will stop completely

[Anonymous No.14623832]

>>14623818
director of first man, ryan gosling, ringo starr, mr beast

[Anonymous No.14623839]

>>14623832
>mr beast
Remember when everyone thought he was gonna be on dearmoon and then it turned out to be a "send your message to space" grift?

[Anonymous No.14623848]

>>14623832
>director of first man, ryan gosling, ringo starr
I remember those interviews, I think they were invited but they still haven't accepted? Ringo wasn't even interested btw
>mr beast
turned out to be a nothingburger

[Anonymous No.14623866]

>>14623799
I think we should not be focusing on Moon versus Mars. We should be focusing on extraterrestrial industry versus not having extraterrestrial industry.

[Anonymous No.14623867]

Is it possible to stay in the direct center of a Lagrange point rather than orbit it?

[Anonymous No.14623873]

>>14623848
everything you say is true, but im gonna keep telling people that ringo and mrbeast will be there, because it's funny

[Anonymous No.14623886]

I’m going to build a Mars base in KSP using Starships. Not because it is easy, but because it is hard. I might redownload the random failures mods too because of the challenge. Not sure yet.
Biggest issue is precision landing. I think the base modules will need wheels because landing on an atmospheric body is fucking hard

[Anonymous No.14623888]

>>14623886
>Not because it is easy, but because it is hahd
FTFY

[Anonymous No.14623890]

>>14623888
JFK was not a perfect man but he is a hero

[Anonymous No.14623900]

>>14623867
Depends on the point, and no.
L1, L2 and L3 are all unstable, L4 and L5 are kinda stable as long as the mass ratio between the objects is really big.
Regardless, no matter how close to exactly at the lagrange point you sit at, forces will perturb your orbit and move you away from that exact point. In L1,2,3 case, you will get tossed away completely after a while. In L4,5 you'll just do a kidney bean shape.
The reason all satellites at lagrange points do a loop around the point is because it's stable enough that only some small course adjustments are needed and it effectively makes each lagrange point region much bigger in terms of how many satellites you can pack there.

[Anonymous No.14623911]

>>14623886
Precision landings are hard to figure out but once you figure them out they're actually pretty easy. Source: I also have autism and Ksp.

[Anonymous No.14623913]

>>14623806
It's going to force executives and politicians to retire earlier if rocket flight is a standard part of travel.

[Anonymous No.14623916]

[Anonymous No.14624013]

>>14622516
If every nerve in your body was carefully removed and lined up end to end it would be extremely painful

[Anonymous No.14624014]

>>14623839
What mission is it actually launching on? Is it up on CAPSTONE right now?

[Anonymous No.14624041]

Hey bro’s we’ve hit a set back. I don’t know how to unload base modules 30 meters above the ground so they end up smacking into the Martian surface and exploding. No idea how to make or work elevators in KSP. I might brute force this issue by just flying space modules and praying.
Got this shot from a “flight sim” (cheats) to see how to unload modules. More work is needed.

[Anonymous No.14624043]

>>14624041
Also got some kino shots of the bellyflop. On Mars, it’s way different because of the thin atmosphere so it’s a lot more like a Falcon landing where you just sort of burn higher up. The flaps remove A LOT of delta V though.

[Anonymous No.14624050]

N1 and Superheavy base comparison, to scale

[Anonymous No.14624052]

>>14624014
The Astrobotic lander that is (was?) supposed to fly on the first Vulcan

[Anonymous No.14624059]

>>14624041
One of the DLC has parts that you can make cranes with. Or just use mods.

[Anonymous No.14624067]

>>14622854
kek

[Anonymous No.14624070]

>>14624050
28.7% more thrust per engine with Super Heavy and Raptor 2 than N1 and NK-15

[Anonymous No.14624071]

Aren’t we all technically Earthers?

[Anonymous No.14624081]

>>14624071
Don't ever call me an E*rther again.

[Anonymous No.14624085]

Reading about the different N1 failures is interesting

Flight 1
>One engine shuts down right at liftoff
>Another engine is shut down immediately
>A third engine ruptures and spills fuel causing a fire
>First stage shuts down at T+68 seconds because of a fire
>RIP N1

Flight 2
>Vehicle lifts off successfully
>An engine turbopump fails immediately
>The KORD computer shuts down all the engines on accident
>After clearing the tower, ALL ENGINES shut down EXCEPT ONE
>Vehicle pitches over and lands back on the pad
>Largest non nuclear explosion in history

Flight 3
>Vehicle lifts off the pad successfully
>Random currents and waves form in the propellant tanks of the N1
>1 minute into flight, the vehicle rolls too much and is ripped apart

Flight 4
>Vehicle lifts off and the flight goes great for a while
>15 seconds before stage separation, the inner 6 engines are shut down as planned
>Shutting down the engines is violent and breaks pipes inside N1’s first stage
>The N1 fucking explodes
>Engineers state that if they didn’t shut down the engines and just ignited stage 2 early the flight would’ve been fine

Flight 5
>Upgraded version of the N1 with NK-33 engines.
>NK-33 can be fired on a test stand making it more reliable
>Entire vehicle is completed
>Suddenly the program is cancelled and N1 Flight 5 is scrapped
>This is because Chelomi hated Korolev and wanted to end his program

[Anonymous No.14624088]

>>14624050
credit reddit where credit due

[Anonymous No.14624100]

>Accidentally went to the /Sci/ catalog
>Accidentally opened a thread about space travel
>It’s all schizos and anti-SpaceX stuff

[Anonymous No.14624102]

>>14624050
I will ask again, what are the two small circles on the B7?

[Anonymous No.14624104]

>>14624100
kek, /sci/'s opinion on Musk is reddit tier, too many "skeptics" around here

[Anonymous No.14624105]

>>14624102
No one knows bruv.

[Anonymous No.14624110]

>>14624104
I'm just really confused who even uses and posts in the catalog of this board still. I think the smart anons left long ago so most of the threads are baits by /pol/ or just trolls laying out baits and there seems always to be a handful of undergrads biting the bait. Very bizarre honestly.

[Anonymous No.14624111]

>>14624102
Smaller engine thrusters for precision control?
Venting of extra hot gas thrusters?

[Anonymous No.14624113]

Wish this great American a happy birthday

[Anonymous No.14624115]

>>14624113
>Shills for National Team
Asshole. Still love him though.

[Anonymous No.14624117]

>>14624111
You must go back. You're way too stupid.

[Anonymous No.14624118]

>>14624111
It could be a pair of vents. My first guess would have been ports for fueling, but that's all being handled elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.14624120]

>>14624102
one hole is pee, one is for vagina.....

[Anonymous No.14624121]

>>14624085
N1 was the original Rocket

[Anonymous No.14624122]

>>14624121
If only they'd build a big dumb booster of their own

[Anonymous No.14624125]

>>14624102
nipples

[Anonymous No.14624128]

>>14624122
Rocket 4 is getting bigger. The pressure fed snowman upper stage finally got ditched.

[Anonymous No.14624129]

>>14624081
Even if you're not an Earther you're a Soler and that's a crime in itself. You will never leave this mediocre planetary system. It's over.

[Anonymous No.14624130]

>>14624129
>That thumbnail
What the fuck hahahahaha

[Anonymous No.14624133]

>>14623790
>the children literally walked out of the cave after the Thai people pumped it dry.
?

[Anonymous No.14624134]

>>14624129
Based off surverys our solar system is based and anything reasonable reachable is scuffed at best unless James discovers some wacky shit. Between Mars/Titan/Venus cloud city its not bad at all.

[Anonymous No.14624140]

>>14624129
Milkywayan hands typed this post.

[Anonymous No.14624142]

>>14624130
>SHOCKING! NASA Disagrees With Elon Musk's Plan To Nuke Mars
This one got a whole 53 views.

[Anonymous No.14624153]

>Rumor has it, it can lift a Vulcan but not New Glenn due to the longer burn time melting the turbopump - this might meanwhile also be outdated, so don't quote me on that.
also BE4 thrust to weight ratio is kinda poopy

[Anonymous No.14624172]

>>14624153
New Glenn has a max of 12 flights per year lol it’s over.

Isn’t New Glenn first stage flight shorter than Vulcan though? 3 or so minutes versus five?

[Anonymous No.14624174]

>>14624153
source?

[Anonymous No.14624176]

>>14624174
some nobody on NSF. it doesnt sound too outlandish

[Anonymous No.14624177]

>>14624153
>Jeff Who's big engine FAIL

[Anonymous No.14624178]

>>14624177
>>14624142
>>14624129
why does he do this

[Anonymous No.14624224]

>>14624178
Money?

[Anonymous No.14624266]

>>14624070
Woah, the Raptor 2 has more thrust than rushed out 60's engines made by an aircraft manufacturer. Amazing!

[Anonymous No.14624271]

>>14624266
While burning a considerably lighter fuel so they have to have much higher flow rate pumps to do the same thing. Aircraft engines are harder than jet engines, too.

[Anonymous No.14624273]

>>14624271
Fuck, jet engines are harder than rocket engines*.

[Anonymous No.14624279]

>>14624129
I WILL escape this solar system, eat several dozen unoccupied ones, and then slumber in the peace of intergalactic space until it's time to throttle the Demiurge with its own semi-divine intestines

[Anonymous No.14624317]

>>14624050
This is fucky, Super Heavy should be over 50% the diameter of the N1 base but here it looks like it's 40% or maybe even less.

[Anonymous No.14624321]

>>14624071
Earther is an attitude.

[Anonymous No.14624329]

>>14624128
Shit really? That's good news

[Anonymous No.14624332]

>>14624140
>he's Laniakean
exit the thread please

[Anonymous No.14624337]

>>14624172
Maybe Vulcan doesn't require full power setting on the BE4s during a portion of the launch.

[Anonymous No.14624341]

>>14624273
Unironically yes

[Anonymous No.14624356]

>>14624100
reminder that /sfg/ is all cross-boarders

[Anonymous No.14624378]

>>14624356
/k/ reporting in, I WILL smuggle an M1 Garand to Mars when I make the trip

[Anonymous No.14624383]

>>14624337
Rough math says Vulcan core-alone masses about 550 tons. Makes sense that the SRBs would boost it given that 2 BE4 gives about 540 tons of thrust, and ULA doesn’t advertise a core alone Vulcan (TWR of just about 1.0)

[Anonymous No.14624399]

>>14624378
As a European, I can't let you do that. You've had enough mass shootings

[Anonymous No.14624405]

>>14623623
The military

[Anonymous No.14624414]

https://youtu.be/LtvMiivrxxA
Mid course update for CAPSTONE?

[Anonymous No.14624419]

>>14623832
Ringo is old. Imagine if he dies like halfway through the trip, and the others will have to spend the rest of the flight with a corpse aboard.

[Anonymous No.14624420]

>>14624414
anon, do i buy buy buy buy?

[Anonymous No.14624426]

>>14624414
They're going to decouple from the Photon, that's about it

They should reach lunar orbit by mid-November or so

[Anonymous No.14624433]

I LOVE rocketlab. Hypercurie photon is SO FUCKING COOL

[Anonymous No.14624437]

>>14624426
>when your Earth-Moon transfer is approaching Earth-Mars transfer time periods

[Anonymous No.14624443]

i cant wait for multiplayer ksp2, me and all my sfg friemds will play together :3

[Anonymous No.14624446]

>>14624443
Kek I never knew you could do that

[Anonymous No.14624453]

>>14624437
>When it only costs $14 million to put 25kg in lunar orbit

Ironically it cost $14 million in 1960s dollars to launch a 385kg probe into lunar orbit (that's $128 million in today's dollars)

[Anonymous No.14624454]

>>14624443
you know damn well everyone will kamikaze into every space station out there kek

[Anonymous No.14624455]

>>14624453
Yeah it's a great deal. How much can reused F9 put into lunar orbit?

[Anonymous No.14624456]

>>14624443
I hope they come up with a good control system to play with kb/m

As it is you're barely able to control anything without MJ

[Anonymous No.14624459]

>>14624456
>kb/m
>MJ
You seem like a heterosexual

[Anonymous No.14624470]

Lol apparently in For All Mankind the NASA and Soviet mars missions crash into each other en route to mars. And somehow each vessel isn’t atomized.

What the fuckkkkkkk that’s so stupid holy shit

[Anonymous No.14624472]

>>14624470
They had a near-zero relative velocity, I buy it

[Anonymous No.14624474]

>>14624472
Do you know how unlikely it is for ships to accidentally crash in LEO, let alone interplanetary space?

[Anonymous No.14624478]

>>14624474
We already went over how incredibly unlikely it was that all three ships were close enough together to make the scenario even plausible

They all launched within minutes of each other with near identical orbits

[Anonymous No.14624501]

WE ARE LIVE
FROM HOBBITON

[Anonymous No.14624512]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv8ic7l_KbE
KINO music.

[Anonymous No.14624528]

>>14624512
i wish the girl wasnt so ugly :)

[Anonymous No.14624535]

>>14624470
So, the whole issue is that the Soviets needed to be rescued by the NASA mission, and the collision occurred after rendezvous of the two spacecraft due to a failure of the same system that necessitated the rescue. Kinda contrived for story reasons, but not nearly as stupid as you're imagining it.

[Anonymous No.14624542]

July 4 0654 EDT - Equatorial Launch Australia - Black Brant IX - Arnhem, Australia - Exoplanet spectrograph sounding rocket.
July 7 0713 EDT - Arianespace - Vega C - French Guiana - Debut flight, LARES-2 magnetic sensing satellite.
July 7 0900 EDT - SpaceX - Falcon 9 - SLC-40, Florida - Starlink 4-21.
July 9 2000 EDT - SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Florida - Starlink 4-22.
July 10 2000 EDT - SpaceX - Falcon 9 - VSFB, California - Starlink 3-1.
July 12 0657 EDT - Equatorial Launch Australia - Black Brant IX - Arnhem, Australia - Alpha Centauri ultraviolet experiment sounding rocket.
July 13 - SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Florida - Starlink 4-25.
July 13 - SpaceX - Falcon 9 - VSFB, California - Starlink 3-2.
July 14 - SpaceX - Falcon 9 - 39A, Florida - Cargo Dragon 2, ISS commercial resupply.
July 16 - Firefly - Alpha - VSFB, California - Rideshare mission, second flight.
July 22 - CASC - Long March 5B - Wenchang, China - Wentian laboratory module for the Chinese space station.
July - JAXA - Epsilon - Uchinoura, Japan - RAISE-3 technology demonstration payloads.
July - Rocket Lab - Electron - New Zealand - Rideshare payloads including NASA's advanced solar sail system.
July - Landspace - ZhuQue-2 - Jiaquan, China - Debut flight, first Chinese private and methalox rocket.
July - Relativity - Terran 1 - LC-16, Florida - “Good Luck, Have Fun” debut flight.

[Anonymous No.14624546]

failed?

[Anonymous No.14624548]

>>14624546
ye of little faith

[Anonymous No.14624549]

What just happened?
Just an insertion?

[Anonymous No.14624551]

>>14624549
TLI

[Anonymous No.14624553]

>>14624549
KEK sorry it's 2am
Injection*

[Anonymous No.14624554]

>>14624549
we find out if payload was deployed in 10 minutes

[Anonymous No.14624556]

>>14624551
Nice. gj RL

[Anonymous No.14624559]

>>14624548
everyone got so quiet i wasnt sure

[Anonymous No.14624583]

>>14624013
It's a big system.

[Anonymous No.14624586]

>>14624102
Maybe parts of actuators for TVC.

[Anonymous No.14624592]

How will a lunar station survive solar flares

[Anonymous No.14624597]

>people are actually dumb enough to think that russia shooting down american satellites would result in a war
does nobody remember iran? they take out american drones all the time and nothing happens. as long as lives arent lost, america won't respond with violence.

[Anonymous No.14624604]

>>14624592
we cant even think about how lunar stations will survive until we solve all the problems about how solar stations can survive

[Anonymous No.14624612]

>>14624597
Drones =/= Sats

What we do with drones is literally illegal in most cases. What we do with drones isn't illegal.

[Anonymous No.14624624]

>>14624597
Would result in America shooting down Russian satellites most likely.
I'm still surprised that Russia hasn't destroyed the Ukrainian earth monitoring satellites.

[Anonymous No.14624628]

>>14624597
Shooting drones doesn't fill the sky with debris fir years. Making air travel more dangerous all over the world.

[Anonymous No.14624629]

>>14624050
Why is there so much empty space on the bottom of N1? is it really just because of the spherical tanks?

[Anonymous No.14624648]

>>14624050
Superheavy will fucking explode if they try to static fire it. pogo problem X1000

[Anonymous No.14624656]

Staging
>>14624655
>>14624655
>>14624655

[Anonymous No.14624675]

>>14624604
Was anyone else really misdirected by thinking that the sun exploding couldn't have been natural because that's not what stars actually do?