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Explain to me why his theory on innate cognitive model for language is not absolute shit, I'll wait

>> No.14619265

>>14619256
Trump derangement syndrome turned this guy's brain to mush for most of the last decade.

>> No.14619356

>>14619256
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/innateness-language/

Pretty fair view of it. You have to keep in mind literary and cultural context of authors, even if they're still alive and probably trying to become a lich. The basic notion that mankind has innate facility for language as a matter of our biology or evolution, extended and expanded considerably over that of other animals over the past few million years, is entirely "a no-brainer" these days.

The article I linked covers some major evidential points. Children who miss critical learning periods for language, and so on, a lot of it fell in line with his ideas at the time. Given people like B.F. Skinner were just, well, not correct. Just as those who lead to the dominance of the behaviorism fad were even less correct. So it goes.

>> No.14620214

>>14619256
Language learning system is part of rule making mechanism which stems from our ability to create simulations in the mind (empathy/dreaming/introspection/thoughts/imagination) and filter out the noise from the rules. Its part of prefrontal cortex network that allows us to map the world around us and navigate it in 3D.

There's nothing innate about it other than to say that its a structure within the brain. Others animals could have the same structure as well, maybe less developed, maybe developed differently.

>> No.14620869

>>14620214
>Others animals could have the same structure as well, maybe less developed, maybe developed differently.
none of that is in any way an argument against innateness. all of what you say is true, and that is compatible with structures for learning language being innate in the human brain

>> No.14620886

>>14620869
His animal comment was something he couldn't resist. He had to throw that in just to ensure that the reader knows that he thinks human beings are not special in any way.

>> No.14620927

>>14619256
He was completely blown out of the debate like from that girl who was strapped to a toilet for years and never learnt to speak properly. He was forced to concede that at best, there is an innate ability to learn language that must be fostered through exposure and interaction. Luckily for him he went through a period of massive unpopularity of the government and was able to pivot to writing books criticising it.