When does life begin?

[Anonymous No.14599994]

Scientifically speaking: when does a human life begin?

[Anonymous No.14600023]

>>14599994
When I fuck your mom

[Anonymous No.14600030]

>>14599994
It never began. Welcome to the matrix.

[Anonymous No.14600032]

>>14599994
When it is alive, and when it is human. Therefore it is at conception.

[Anonymous No.14600059]

>>14599994
Once the organism is self-sustaining

[Anonymous No.14600063]

>>14600059
You haven't left your mom's basement and yet here you are, human and alive

[Anonymous No.14600090]

>>14599994
Doesn't matter. No child asked to be born. You're forcing children to live a life they never asked for, just to stoke your ego over how many imaginary 'good-boy point' you'll receive.

[Anonymous No.14600135]

>>14600059
>Once the organism is self-sustaining
So you are saying blacks on welfare are not technically alive?

[Anonymous No.14600137]

>>14600090
Wait for them to grow up to eating level, then eat them. Onions green won't make itself.

[Anonymous No.14600148]

>>14600032
>human at conception
What a retarded statement to make.

[Anonymous No.14600156]

>>14599994
Scientifically speaking, life begins at conception. Once the egg accepts the sperm, then barring any unusual incident a human baby will grow in a continuous manner from that event.

Since the birth process is a continuum, we are presented with two options: no murder or no limit to murder. A completely arbitrary line luch as heartbeat, trimesters, leaving the womb, etc. can not be the "beginning" of a life because birth is not a discrete process.

Anyone who says otherwise is placing their own personal judgement on the issue, not based in any scientific capacity. If one accepts that their own path began at conception, then by the continuous nature of life life begins at conception.

[Anonymous No.14600163]

>>14599994
After you cut the umbilical cord.

[Anonymous No.14600169]

life? a single celled organism is alive. sperm is alive, red blood cells are alive.
the definition of the term "life" is not agreed upon. an argument for viruses being alive, or not alive, both have merits.

i'd say a zygote is alive. but so was the egg cell which it formed from. i understand what you're asking, but an egg cell is as alive as the zygote, and as alive as the fetus, and so on.

a tumor is alive, your hand is alive. it's acceptable to remove a tumor, or remove your hand. the question is when is it no longer acceptable to remove the infant? at what point does the egg cell become independent in terms of having the rights of a person?

is it at fertilization? why? because the fertilized cell is genetically distinct from the egg cell?
what of a tumor? does a cancer cell deserve the right to life, by virtue of being genetically distinct from the parent cell? surely not.

i'd make the argument that the parallel should be to brain death. a human is deemed "no longer alive" when brain activity is ceased.
if the distinction from life-to-death is when brain function stops, then is the inverse true? does "life" begin when brain function starts?

the beginning of electrical brain activity begins some 40-45 days after fertilization, and i think that would be a reasonable border of separation.

[Anonymous No.14600179]

>>14600163
millennials never cut it.

[Anonymous No.14600185]

I would say when this happens

[Anonymous No.14600200]

>>14600185
me n ur mom made that happen

[Anonymous No.14600209]

i would define it with the existence of consiousness. consioussness is impossible to measure, though. i can't be sure you'r experiencing subjectivity. so argumenting on this murder shouldn't be morally reprehensible. to murder. so idk

[Anonymous No.14600212]

>>14600200
well thank you dad and please come home from the store already

[Anonymous No.14600215]

>>14600209
>can't be sure you'r experiencing subjectivity. so argumenting on this murder shouldn't be morally reprehensible. to murder.
I can't communicate with this. What the fuck is being said here?

[Anonymous No.14600285]

>>14600148
he's not wrong. An embryo is a stage of development of an organism. Saying "a human embryo" is as valid as saying "a human child." They're just different stages of being a human.

[Anonymous No.14600293]

>>14599994
When th central nervous system develops. Creationists can have abortion because I don't care, but everything about sentience requires neurons. Everything before that is no more human than the specks of dry skin in dust scattered around your attic.

[Anonymous No.14600304]

>>14600156
Stole my post, this is the most accurate and impartial analysis

[Anonymous No.14600305]

>>14600285
>behold human
A corpse is a different stage of behind human is that the same as a human child or an embryo? Your metric is retarded.

[Anonymous No.14600306]

>>14599994
sperms and eggs are already alive. not only that but your immune system doesn't recognize them to be your body's cells and they have their own unique dna. they are technically independent living organisms.

[Anonymous No.14600307]

>>14600306
I wanted to take that to /x/ sometime and declare them sentient.

[Anonymous No.14600311]

>>14600306
They are living but are not human

[Anonymous No.14600319]

Its 100 percent murdering a human but chicks should be allowed to do it.
There I solved it.

[Anonymous No.14600332]

>>14600059
But when exactly does life begin? Give the answer in terms of exact time from conception.

[Anonymous No.14600339]

>>14600332
3.7 billion years ago

[Anonymous No.14600343]

Human life may begin at conception. Human life may begin at a heartbeat. Human life may begin with a brainwave. Human life may begin at birth.

Which of these is true? Is this unknowable? What can be done to prevent anyone from harm or hurt in matters of pregnancy? Think clearly: this includes (You).

[Anonymous No.14600351]

>>14600343
>Which of these is true?
See >>14600156
>>14600343
>Is this unknowable?
No, you are abusing that word
>What can be done to prevent anyone from harm or hurt in matters of pregnancy?
Lots of things, thats why we have doctors

[Anonymous No.14600359]

>>14600351
>>14600156
There's too much presupposition and no method. We should move past semantics and gotchya normie bantz. We should do the work. We can say peptic cells are human life. The question was: when does "a" human life begin? If we should define a new human life as conception then defend this position.
>that's why we have doctors
This is indefensibly stupid.

[Anonymous No.14600371]

>>14600359
Arguing about what constitutes human life is by definition semantics. It could never be "unknowable" as that would imply there is some innate universal definition of life to be known or discovered. The best you can do is propose a consistent, exact, and verifiable definition. Under these conditions, "At conception" is the best available.
>This is indefensibly stupid.
I guess I don't understand the question. Obstetrics explicitly deals with the health of a pregnant woman. Do you want a summary of the entire field?

[Anonymous No.14600377]

>>14600305
>A corpse is a different stage of behind human
A corpse is not a stage of development. Weak misrepresentation of what I said.
>is that the same as a human child or an embryo?
a human corpse is still a human just like a human child or human embryo are both human. Pretty pathetic of you not to use the phrase "human embryo" to try and bolster your position lol.
>Your metric is retarded
No, but your misrepresentation is. My metric is perfectly consistent.

[Anonymous No.14600380]

>>14600371
>that's why we have firemen!!1
It's fine just don't do this kind of facebook shit. And be concise.

[Anonymous No.14600385]

>>14600135

[Anonymous No.14600387]

>>14600380
>And be concise
It's less than a paragraph of writing bro. Ease up on the IPhone, it's killing your attention span.
I still don't get your complaint. I would refer a pregnant woman with an issue to an Obstetrician, as I don't have a personal understanding of the field. Is this a problem somehow? It feels like I'm missing some implication you have made, because I legitimately don't understand.

[Anonymous No.14600396]

>>14600387
>It's less than a paragraph of writing bro.
I did not say succinct.
>Ease up on the IPhone, it's killing your attention span.
ok facebook

I'd welcome any thoughts on the original question. Original thoughts and aside from naming a field proudly.

[Anonymous No.14600401]

>>14600377
>They're just different stages of being a human.
>A corpse is not a stage of development
That's not what you said, dipshit.
Your response is "weak" What the fuck does that mean?Are you going to address the point?
>a human corpse is still a human
So the corpse has voting rights? I can cast a ballot in gran's name? Do you not understand why this approach is really fucking stupid when we attempt to arrive at the core of the conversation?

[Anonymous No.14600402]

>>14599994
about 12 weeks

[Anonymous No.14600403]

>>14600396
If you want a constructive conversation, try giving an argument instead of insults and Facebook namedrops

[Anonymous No.14600409]

>>14600403
Well of course but I enjoy taking jabs at people who pick fights. I think that is fair.

[Anonymous No.14600447]

>>14600401
A corpse having voting rights would be preferrable to you having them, that's for sure

[Anonymous No.14600452]

>>14600447
Top shelf material, chief. Your argument is still shit.

[Anonymous No.14600466]

>>14600452
Alright, since we're in the science board, why don't you answer a question you could see in a science exam for middle schoolers? The question is the following:

An embryo was formed by two human gametes. What species is the embryo?

You should be able to solve this.

[Anonymous No.14600479]

>>14600401
You might be the first person I've seen deny that Shakespeare was human.
Please don't misrepresent his argument.

If I was going to steelman your argument I would attempt to equate zygote replication to bacterial growth within a human cadaver's intestine.
Though I think that argument would be taken apart as the replication of a zygote creates new cells, and starts replicating and designating new (to the child) systems, whereas the bacterial replication within a human cadaver is only exponentially contributing to decomposition.
>inb4 random ad hominem and another goalpost shift.

[Anonymous No.14600496]

>>14600479
>If I was going to steelman your argument I would attempt to equate zygote replication to bacterial growth within a human cadaver's intestine.
You would be having a conversation about a different topic. The conversation on whether or not the embryo is human boils down to whether or not it has human rights. What you're doing is mental gymnastics. I am not interested.
>>14600466
What the fuck makes you think I have something to prove to you?

[This is a troll thread btw. No.14600512]

>>>(OP)
>when does a human life begin?
>when does life begin?
>what is life?
There isn't a good answer that's not arbitrary to some extent. Life will find a way to blur any line you propose.

Now if you're talking about (human) rights, then that's a very different subject.

[Anonymous No.14600516]

>>14600496
Aw... He can't answer the question... OK. I will give you a hint. It starts with a H, and ends with uman. Surely your elementary schooler brain can solve it with this hint? Or maybe you are too ashamed to try answering the question? Don't worry, we all make mistakes, even for simple questions like this, but if you try really hard and take your time I'm sure you can get this right! I believe in you!

[Anonymous No.14600523]

>>14600496
It does have human rights, as it is a living human, again your cadaver argument is not a living human.
Voting is not a right, but a privilege.
I probably agree with you more than you think, I think the second a government recognizes the inherent value of that life, all laws having to do with child abuse should apply to the parents. If someone assaults a pregnant woman they should be held accountable for both lives from the moment of conception, but a compromise would be whatever the state formally recognizes life.
Within a zygote is a new DNA sequence from either parent, how do you not consider that human? What is it? What S8Mxprocesses allow it to become human? Transcription? Translation? Expression? Complex nucleoids? ATP production? On a strictly scientific level, what biochemical processes is your standard?

[Anonymous No.14600535]

>>14600523
When I say human I mean an entity capable of having a human experience by that I mean an agent capable of having a conscious experience with a human brain. I don't think a zygote meets that criteria because I don't think it can have a conscious experience so it's therefore not having a human experience so it's therefore not human. Getting into the biology because of the emphasis on alive is a red herring from where I am sitting.

[Anonymous No.14600545]

When the sperm is formed in your balls. It's not a full babby, but it's basically half, and that's still a babby in my book. We need to scoop up all the discarded sperms, those poor little half-babbies, and save each and every one of them.

[Anonymous No.14600654]

>>14600169
A tumor or your hand won’t grow to be a separate human faggot. Kys and shove your electric brain impulses up your fat fuckin ass

[Anonymous No.14600656]

>>14600293
Human skin flakes do not grow into a full human being, you are stupid or dishonest.

[Anonymous No.14600657]

>>14600306
Let me know when sperm and eggs become full human beings on there own dummy.

[Anonymous No.14600659]

>>14599994
In an objective scientific manner, a "new" human life begins the moment an zygote is formed from a fertilized egg.

We set arbitrary boundaries like "when it is able to feel pain" or "when it has a heart" but that is basically just redundant artificial boundaries we use to define norms in society.

[Anonymous No.14600707]

>>14600063
>>14600135
desu senpaitachi I was expecting more quality replies in refuting me.
I'm saying that if the organism doesn't dissolve into a puddle of water and proteins without external assistance, it can be considered alive. Think of it as chemically stable.
Please try again.

>>14600332
sorry, I ain't no expert in pregnancy biology

[Anonymous No.14600723]

>>14600148
>it's not life because I'm a whore who can't keep her legs closed
>it's not life because I'm a whoremonger who can't keep his dick in his pants
Pick one then die.

[Anonymous No.14600746]

>>14600657
i didn't say they are human beings, i said they are "technically independent living organisms". what you consider to be a human being is arbitrary. biologically speaking, sperm and egg are LIVING HUMAN germ cells, a fertilized egg is a LIVING HUMAN zygote, a clump of cells is a LIVING HUMAN blastocyst, etc

[Anonymous No.14600820]

>>14600659
BEHOLD... a man...

[Anonymous No.14600823]

>>14600659
are you pants on head retarded

[Anonymous No.14600836]

Its a loaded question.

[Anonymous No.14600841]

>>14600823
He is correct, and you are coping

[Anonymous No.14600848]

The question of abortion is not about when biological life begins, its about when legal personhood (rights) should begin. Its a subjective, not objective question. Some equate personhood with purely biological life. Others disagree and require more, like the presence of mind or brain waves. IMHO the concept of a person with rights is much more than a single cell, no matter its DNA, so merely biological life is insufficient.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beating_heart_cadaver

Is this a person with rights? Its biologically alive.. But I dont think its a person. No mind, no person.

[Anonymous No.14600859]

We define the legal end of a person as dissapearance of brain waves (activity) in higher brain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_death

By symmetry, we should define the legal beginning of a person by appearance of brain waves in the higher brain (cortex). This is in 5th month of pregnancy.

http://www.cirp.org/library/pain/anand/

>Functional maturity of the cerebral cortex is suggested by fetal and a neonatal electroencephalographic patterns, studies of cerebral metabolism, and the behavioral development of neonates. First, intermittent electroencephalograpic bursts in both cerebral hemispheres are first seen at 20 weeks gestation; they become sustained at 22 weeks and bilaterally synchronous at 26 to 27 weeks.39


There it is, abortion issue solved. Can we please get back now to issues that matter, like inflation crisis, disappearing middle class or countering r*ssian/chinese expansionism?

[Anonymous No.14600872]

>>14599994
Lawyer here, it begins at conception. See the ancient “nasciturus pro iam nato habetur…” stipulation that is still valid today and from which we can infer that an individual’s life begins at conception.

[Anonymous No.14600875]

>>14600848
>Can we please get back now to issues that matter, like inflation crisis, disappearing middle class or countering r*ssian/chinese expansionism?
Can you please go back to pl*bbit?

[Anonymous No.14600901]

>>14599994
When sperm hits the egg. According to celullar biology it is an alive human organism once that happens
However I would still support abortion for rape cases for example since it is a completely unwanted and forced life into the body of woman, other than that people shouldn't toy with this and take abortion like they are just a change of clothes in the morning since it is human life we are talking about

[Anonymous No.14600913]

Imagine being American

[Anonymous No.14600922]

Life at conception is the only point of measurement that is both scientifically and morally consistent.

[Anonymous No.14601003]

>>14600657
Let me know when a zygote will become a full grown human on its own lmfao.

[Anonymous No.14601325]

>>14599994
Conception, obviously.

[Anonymous No.14601452]

>>14600185
what... that is totally unethical.
Using a human sperm to fertilize a non-human egg. What has science come to?

[Anonymous No.14602022]

>>14600401
>That's not what you said, dipshit.
I absolutely referred to stages of development and a corpse is not a stage of development.
>Are you going to address the point?
Your point was invalid. A corpse is not a stage of development so I have no reason to engage your loaded and irrelevant questions about corpses.
>So the corpse has voting rights?
No silly there are rules involving mental capacity and voting. Children can't vote, embryos can't vote, mentally handicapped people like you can't vote, corpses can't vote, but they are all still human.
>I can cast a ballot in gran's name?
No that would be voting for another human which is usually illegal
>Do you not understand why this approach is really fucking stupid when we attempt to arrive at the core of the conversation?
I truly don't. An embryo is a stage of human development therefore it is necessarily a human. Not all humans have the same voting rights

[Anonymous No.14602027]

>>14599994
put the cock in the pussy, nut, shake it all up.
put the cock in the pussy, nut, and shut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.14602142]

>>14600466
Sperm was formed by a human. What species is the sperm? Should I stop jerking off to save lives?

[Anonymous No.14602170]

>>14600820
man means human male a few years after puberty. Your pic, if it is a homo sapien zygote,would just be a human embryo ergo a human.

[Anonymous No.14602181]

>>14602142
Yes.

[Anonymous No.14602183]

>>14600319
Yeah

Its a necessary evil

[Anonymous No.14602189]

>>14600343
Its not unknowable, youre just coloring between lines that are blurry, there is no objective answer because too many people have different answers

[Anonymous No.14603339]

>>14599994
First the human exists, then his life exists.
Source: You are a human witnessing only your past right now.

[Anonymous No.14603471]

>>14599994
3.7 BYO

[Anonymous No.14603481]

>>14599994
At the macro level, at the atomic level no life exists.

[Anonymous No.14603488]

>>14599994
It never began. No human is conscious.

[Anonymous No.14603911]

I always thought the question of when life begins was incredibly easy

Whenever we observe that the being has feelings (ones thar aren't purely instinctual). I would assume pretty early on. Do we know when this is? What is the brain's development process?

[Anonymous No.14605423]

>>14599994
heartbeat at approx 6 weeks

"A fetal heartbeat may first be detected by a vaginal ultrasound as early as 5 1/2 to 6 weeks after gestation. That’s when a fetal pole, the first visible sign of a developing embryo, can sometimes be seen.

But between 6 1/2 to 7 weeks after gestation, a heartbeat can be better assessed. That’s when your doctor may schedule your first abdominal or vaginal ultrasound to check for signs of a healthy, developing pregnancy."

[Anonymous No.14605426]

>>14600148
Spotted the roastie

[Anonymous No.14605429]

>>14599994
um, science does not answer those types of questions, sweaty. you'll just get more dumb answers like big bang, evolution, or black hole.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fY8dENdB620

[Anonymous No.14605437]

>>14599994
What's a human life?

[Anonymous No.14605463]

>>14600156
So when a woman's body miscarries a fetus that it determines is not genetically fit, her body has committed an act of murder?

[Anonymous No.14605508]

>>14602170
man also means human. the scientific name for humans is literally "wise man" in latin
>would just be a human embryo ergo a human.
it's just a human embryo, it's not a human yet. it's reductive to not distinguish between the various stages of development and just call them human.

[Anonymous No.14605550]

>>14600293
This.

[Anonymous No.14605562]

>>14600148
ok arbys

[Anonymous No.14605799]

>>14599994
Since you can't honestly say you have conceived a new scientific theory until after it has been presented and named, it would have to be the same for humans, so it must be a fact that human conception happens at the gender reveal party.

[Anonymous No.14605804]

>>14600305
>"a small thing I can't see means that thing is irrelevant"
An embryo that has the potential to grow into an adult human if left unkilled is... unsurprisingly, a human.

[Anonymous No.14605848]

>>14599994
life or consciousness?
many humans who are brain dead and have no consciousness are still "alive" and we decide to kill them all the time.
at the current time we really dont know fuck all about consciousness but we are pretty sure it "starts" at birth. so with our current understanding i would say the answer is at birth.

a fetus is "alive" but it is really no different than a an ant and "killing" it should be put on the same level as squashing a bug.

[Anonymous No.14605851]

>>14605848
Then why doesn't anyone remember their own birth and humans tend to only start forming memory around after 2 years of age at the earliest?

[Anonymous No.14605852]

>>14599994
Scientifically speaking: when does a human life begin?

Unironically conception
since it's now considered a "human" embryo

[Anonymous No.14605853]

>>14599994
>Scientifically speaking: when does a human life begin?

Unironically conception
since it's now considered a "human" embryo

[Anonymous No.14605854]

>>14605851
oh i was just voicing my opinion in a way i know most people would listen and probably agree to.

in reality i support depopulation and i think a mother should be able to smash her child's head against the wall and kill it under 2 years of age.
for my ideology abortions are based and i think more people should do the.
also eugenics can be very useful.

[Anonymous No.14605856]

>>14605854
So you were repeating lies to children because its easier than trying to actually make a logically sound point?

[Anonymous No.14605858]

>>14605856
nothing you just wrote makes any sense.
take your meds.

i never lied. i am not talking to children. and i did make a logically sound point.

[Anonymous No.14605863]

>>14605858
>my opinion in a way i know most people would listen and probably agree to.
The colloquial term for that kind of mistruth is called a lie-to-children.

> i did make a logically sound point.
>In reality...
No, you immediately renounced the point you made as not actually part of reality.

[Anonymous No.14605868]

>>14605858
No depopulation now. Now we get an imperial wave of deformed infants that should have been painlessly euthanised living on government support until they finally die.

[Anonymous No.14605884]

>>14600285
>>14600723
>>14600156
>>14600659
>>14605853
>A pizza begins at the dough
>A house begins when the first tree is cut
>A novel begins on the first letter
These are hard skull, /pol/ narrative of the week answers. Why is like 1/3 of the board so incredibly dumb and manipulable? Even when I was a teen I wasn't this dumb. Zoomers are a special kind of brain fuck.

[Anonymous No.14605910]

>>14605508
>man also means human
Irrelevant special linguistic case because of the Bible. You're just pointing out that he's calling that zygote a human anyway...
>the scientific name for humans is literally "wise man" in latin
So it also means wise human huh?
>it's just a human embryo, it's not a human yet
It's definitely a human. An embryo is a stage of development of an organism ergo a human embryo is necessarily a human the same way a human child is necessarily a human. Very simple.
>it's reductive to not distinguish between the various stages of development and just call them human
It's perfectly fine to just call a human child a "human" the same way it's perfectly fine to just all a human embryo a "human".. We typically refer to their stage of development, but it doesn't mean calling them the latter, ie human, is invalid in any way.

[Anonymous No.14605921]

>>14605863
you are taking my use of "in reality" too literally what i meant was in real life when talking to real humans i use the first but online on places such as this i will use the second. i never lied. i believe 100% in both things i said. they do not contradict each other.

[Anonymous No.14605925]

>>14605884
An embryo by definition is a stage of an organism's development you mouth breathing tourist thus invariably a human embryo is a human organism. Go back to wherever you came from and encourage others of your ilk to all KYS for your stupidity.

[Anonymous No.14605928]

>>14605925
Is a fertilized egg alive?

[Anonymous No.14605929]

>>14599994
My friend. Life has already begun.

[Anonymous No.14605936]

>>14605921
Nah, you knew what you said was an extreme simplification that was nowhere near 100% true, the term for that kind of untruth is lie-to-children.

[Anonymous No.14605942]

>>14599994
millions years ago or maybe even more, depending on what you consider life, according to such a clumsy definition as "anti-entropy agent" even crystals are life
And our personal life begins from that germline our ancestors carried, because even single gamet is technically alive, which is this time according not only to that contraversial definition.

[Anonymous No.14605978]

>>14605928
>Is a fertilized egg alive?

yes

for someone who claims he isn't dumb you're pretty stupid

[Anonymous No.14606019]

>>14605936
>tells the truth
>NO YOU ARE LYING BECAUSE I SAID SO! IF YOU ARE NOT LYING I MUST BE WRONG AND THAT CAN'T HAPPEN!
kill yourself schizo.

[Anonymous No.14606033]

>>14605928
>Is a fertilized egg alive?
Yes, in fact most cells within a living organism are alive. A fertilized egg just means the sperm has penetrated the ovum. After just a few hours fertilization is complete and there is no longer a sperm or egg, there is the new cell formed and is called a zygote, which is a new human, and is alive.
During menstruation an ovum cell/ egg cell within the ovaries of a woman is considered a living cell because it is proactively using energy as it matures to get ready for fertilization. If it's not fertilized within the ovulation window it dies, ergo the egg is alive during the monthly cycle and would be alive during the very short stage where it is a fertilized egg.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK279270/
>During the monthly hormone cycle the mucous membranes lining the inside of the uterus prepare for the possibility that an egg might be fertilized and settle in the uterus. The mucous membranes supply nutrients to the embryo if the woman gets pregnant. If the egg cell is not fertilized, it dies

The chicken egg you eat for breakfast is long past the analogous window so it died a while ago, but it was once alive just like your blood cells or brain cells are alive etc.

[Anonymous No.14606034]

>>14599994
Abortion apologetics is all about inventing arbitrary standards rather than admitting to the clear and obvious. This tactic is otherwise known as "jewing poetic".

[Anonymous No.14607185]

>>14599994
Sperm and eggs are living cells
Life doesnt “begin” its an ongoing cycle from way back when
As far as where the legal line should be drawn for things like abortion thats a different question that will invariably be answered by opinions

[Anonymous No.14607528]

>>14600156
>Scientifically speaking, life begins at conception. Once the egg accepts the sperm, then barring any unusual incident a human baby will grow in a continuous manner from that event.
technically that is only upon IMPLANTATION into the womb, not conception in vitro

[Anonymous No.14607566]

>>14600148
>human sperm
>human egg
>when combined this forms something that is not human

what a retarded statement to make

[Anonymous No.14607575]

>>14599994
Goo goo gaa gaa, once something x or y.

You lot read like dumb 10 IQ types but then profess your high IQ in IQ threads. Fucking kids and their pretending bullshit. Faggots.

Life starts for the first anything. It's your capacity to see it alive or not. That shit stain in your toilet? Alive. In this case, Science's capacity to make a microscope.

Now all you gay fuking zoomer cunts, suck my dick. And fuck off to fortnite, where your true brain capacity belongs.

[Anonymous No.14608418]

>>14600059
so no niggers then?

[Anonymous No.14608420]

biologically, at conception
"morally," whenever you want

[Anonymous No.14609941]

>>14599994
>Scientifically speaking: when does a human life begin?

When we chose it does. Life is not a factual constant, it's an artificial idea. We use it to describe a collection of atoms with certain complexity and certain properties.

[Anonymous No.14609997]

>>14599994
Depends on the race

[Anonymous No.14610133]

>>14599994
life is a social concept

[Anonymous No.14610134]

>>14599994
heart beat

[Anonymous No.14610165]

>>14605463
yes.

[Anonymous No.14610203]

>>14599994
science isn't a system built to answer moral questions like at what point in embryonic development a fetus gains personhood.

but the only reason this is a mainstream debate is because of christianity, and science can tell us a lot about how people can't rise from the dead, turn water into wine, or any of the other excuses to derive a system of morals from an old book written by a bunch of dead people who never met jesus

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[Anonymous No.14610271]

>>14610243

So killing a bacteria on Earth would be murder?

[Anonymous No.14610280]

>>14599994
It begins in your balls