/sfg/ - Spaceflight General

[Anonymous No.14587950]

Printed Rockets edition

Previous: >>14584666

June 20 1100 GMT - NASA - SLS: LC-39B, FL. Wet dress rehearsal.
June 21 0600 GMT - KARI - Nuri: Naro, South Korea. Performance Verification Satellite (PVSAT) and four CubeSats.
June 22 2103 GMT - ESA - Ariane 5: French Guiana. Two communications satellites for Malaysia and India.
June 25 1000 GMT - Rocket Lab - Electron: Mahia Peninsula, New Zealand. CAPSTONE to lunar halo orbit, for NASA.
June 26 0043 GMT - SpaceX - Falcon 9: LC-39A, FL. Starlink 4-21. Drone ship recovery.
June 26 - ISRO - SSLV: Sriharikota, India. Small Satellite Launch Vehicle's first orbital test flight.
June 28 2104 GMT - SpaceX - Falcon 9: SLC-40, FL. SES 22 communications satellite for US television and data service.
June 29 - ULA - Atlas 5: SLC-41, FL. USSF 12, experimental missile warning satellite for the Space Force.
June 30 1700 GMT - Virgin Orbit - LauncherOne: Mojave, CA. "Straight Up", the fifth flight dropped from a Boeing 747.
June - CAS Space - Zhongke-1A: Site 95, Jiuquan, CH. Six unknown payloads.
June - Galactic Energy - Ceres-1: Site 95, Jiuquan, CH. Two observation satellites.
June - ExPace - Kuaizhou 11: Site 95, Jiuquan, CH. Vehicle declared "retired" in April after 2020 failure.
June - CASC - Jielong-1: Site 95, Jiuquan, CH. Two private industry Earth imaging satellites.
June - Landspace: ZhuQue-2: Jiaquan, CH. Debut flight. First Chinese private liquid rocket. First Chinese methalox rocket.
Sept 20 - SpaceX - Falcon Heavy: LC-39A, Florida. NASA probe to explore metallic asteroid Psyche. Landing zone 1/2 booster recovery.
Q3 - Firefly - Alpha: California. Small satellite rideshare mission, second flight.
Q3 - Relativity - Terran 1: LC-16, FL. “Good Luck, Have Fun” debut flight.
Q3 - SpaceX - Starship: Starbase, TX. Ship 24/Booster 7 debut flight.
Q4 - NASA - SLS: LC-39B, FL. Artemis 1, uncrewed Orion capsule to lunar orbit and return to earth.
Q4 - SpaceX - Falcon 9: LC-39A, FL. Polaris Dawn missions on Crew Dragon.

[Anonymous No.14587955]

I love SpaceX!

[Anonymous No.14587956]

[Anonymous No.14587959]

We are going

[Anonymous No.14587966]

1st for Vivian!

[Anonymous No.14587967]

This thread is going to suck goddamnit

[Anonymous No.14587970]

>>14587966
I understand changing your first name
but why drop Musk. Also must really fucking suck to have your personal life plastered everywhere all of a sudden because some jerk with free time to do court file searching decided to do so

[Anonymous No.14587973]

>>14587970
I don't think many people care aside from /sfg/.

[Anonymous No.14587987]

I dont understand why the last thread got nuked

[Anonymous No.14588001]

>>14587950
Boy oh boy, do I ever hate earthers

[Anonymous No.14588015]

>the moon is partially molten to this day
wtf, mandella effect
didn't they used to say the moon has been completely dead for billions of years?

[Anonymous No.14588016]

TWO FUCKING THREADS IN A ROW
/sfg/ is more dead than mars

[Anonymous No.14588025]

/sfg/ has been completely dead for billions of years

[Anonymous No.14588033]

>But the third imagined use case is more provocative and less prosaic than the first two, titled only “Embassy Support,” scenarios in which a “rapid theater direct delivery capability from the U.S. to an African bare base would prove extremely important in supporting the Department of State’s mission in Africa,” potentially including the use of a “quick reaction force,” a military term for a rapidly deployed armed unit, typically used in crisis conditions. The ability to merely “demonstrate” this use of a SpaceX Starship, the document notes, “could deter non-state actors from aggressive acts toward the United States.”

[Anonymous No.14588036]

>>14588025
That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with gay autism even death may die.

[Anonymous No.14588040]

>>14588033
>Interventions in Somalia and Rwanda with ODSTs
Well, it'd certainly send a message.

[Anonymous No.14588042]

>>14588033
>“My two cents are that it’s unlikely that they would be able to evacuate anyone quickly via rocket,” said Kaitlyn Johnson, deputy director of the Center for Strategic and International Studies’ Aerospace Security Project
>“If it’s in a city, it’s not like they can land [a] Starship next to the embassy.”
Fucking TRY ME

[Anonymous No.14588048]

>>14587970
I would absolutely not want to have musks last name in this climate lmao i mean look at the fact that this leaked

[Anonymous No.14588049]

>>14588033
Yet another thing Musk has cribbed from Phil Bono

[Anonymous No.14588051]

>>14588015
It's volcanically dead because solid mantle, but still a small molten core.

[Anonymous No.14588052]

>>14588049
The DoD's the one examining the capabilities, not SpaceX. If anything, the Pentagon is cribbing Phil Bono.

[Anonymous No.14588054]

https://spacenews.com/astronomers-renew-concerns-about-starlink-satellite-brightness/

[Anonymous No.14588055]

>>14588054
They should be more worried about the impending BoFA effect on their careers

[Anonymous No.14588060]

>>14588052
Maybe but if you think Musk is ignorant of Bono's designs, I have a bridge to sell you

[Anonymous No.14588062]

>>14588054
Lol so some astronomers want to deny internet to underprivileged indigenous American communities so they can build telescopes on sacred Hawaiian land? Sounds like everyone who disapproves of Starlink is a racist white supremacist

[Anonymous No.14588064]

>>14588062
Hawaiian insurgents vs astroonomers when?

[Anonymous No.14588065]

>>14588054
I've just about had it with these privileged honkys that think they own the sky. typical colonizers

[Anonymous No.14588067]

>>14588060
Without a doubt they're aware, but it's probably safe to say that SpaceX has rejected any similar approaches.

[Anonymous No.14588115]

Huh, I've just found out that a shipyard in my city is making a hull of new rocketship for Ariane.

[Anonymous No.14588131]

>We propose a novel design for a lightweight, high-performance space-based solar power array combined with power beaming capability for operation in geosynchronous orbit and transmission of power to Earth. We use a modular configuration of small, repeatable unit cells, called tiles, that each individually perform power collection, conversion, and transmission. Sunlight is collected via lightweight parabolic concentrators and converted to DC electric power with high efficiency III-V photovoltaics. Several CMOS integrated circuits within each tile generates and controls the phase of multiple independently-controlled microwave sources using the DC power. These sources are coupled to multiple radiating antennas which act as elements of a large phased array to beam the RF power to Earth. The power is sent to Earth at a frequency chosen in the range of 1-10 GHz and collected with ground-based rectennas at a local intensity no larger than ambient sunlight. We achieve significantly reduced mass compared to previous designs by taking advantage of solar concentration, current CMOS integrated circuit technology, and ultralight structural elements. Of note, the resulting satellite has no movable parts once it is fully deployed and all beam steering is done electronically. Our design is safe, scalable, and able to be deployed and tested with progressively larger configurations starting with a single unit cell that could fit on a cube satellite. The design reported on here has an areal mass density of 160 g/m2 and an end-to-end efficiency of 7-14%. We believe this is a significant step forward to the realization of space-based solar power, a concept once of science fiction.
https://arxiv.org/abs/2206.08373
casey handjob btfo

[Anonymous No.14588154]

>>14588131
what a waste. fuck urf, use that power IN SPACE so i can BUILD MY FUCKING TUBES

[Anonymous No.14588156]

why dont other organizations move as fast as spacex, everyone is so slooooooow

[Anonymous No.14588158]

Is spaceship 2.0 real? 18 fucking meters in diameter!?

[Anonymous No.14588163]

>>14588158
No. Why do you keep posting this?

[Anonymous No.14588171]

>>14588131
>beamed power
Kek glad we’ve moved from scam-launch companies to scam-payload companies. It’s unironically a sign of market shift

[Anonymous No.14588183]

>>14588016
what a shitshow, I made a few threads recently but have been busy

[Anonymous No.14588185]

>>14588156
spacex vacuums all the top talent and they have worse managment

[Anonymous No.14588188]

>>14588183
Don’t get it, what’s wrong with this thread?

[Anonymous No.14588191]

NASA's Voyager Mission: Remastered
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M62kajY-ln0

[Anonymous No.14588205]

>>14588188
Everything

[Anonymous No.14588207]

>>14588188
just ignore it
the schizo is mad he didn't get to make the op

[Anonymous No.14588209]

>>14588188
it was made too late like the last thread

[Anonymous No.14588217]

A chat with Samantha: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXTBer62nOo
skip past the talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXTBer62nOo&t=752s

[Anonymous No.14588221]

>>14588217
who let this old hag into space?

[Anonymous No.14588223]

>>14588221
idk but she really is tough to look at

[Anonymous No.14588249]

>>14587966
Is she /our/ girl?

[Anonymous No.14588255]

Has /sfg/ heard of Chinese scientists saying they’ve found three possible alien civilizations then deleting their statement?

[Anonymous No.14588259]

>>14588255
It was just one signal from a potential alien civilization, last I checked.

[Anonymous No.14588266]

>>14588255
There's a reason "it was aliens" is a joke in astronomy

It is never the explanation for whatever phenomenon you're seeing

[Anonymous No.14588267]

https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/06/we-got-a-leaked-look-at-nasas-future-moon-missions-and-likely-delays/

[Anonymous No.14588272]

>>14588267
>leaked
>future moon missions

[Anonymous No.14588273]

>>14588266
until it is

[Anonymous No.14588294]

>>14588272
lol

[Anonymous No.14588308]

>>14588255
>>14588259
>>14588266
>ayy diplomatic mission to Urf
>contact UN
>UN demands ayys take 1 billion "minority" rapefugees and give 6 billion space dollars to Israel
>ayys nope.jpg and gtfo
>figure out humanity will destroy itself, so not even worth to glass Urf
And that's why we won't ever meet them

[Anonymous No.14588317]

>>14587966
Musk is gonna hear about this and decide it is time to put another baby in the oven to increase his expected number of grandchildren.

[Anonymous No.14588328]

>>14588308
aliens don't exist you retarded incel

[Anonymous No.14588342]

>>14588317
Based, just like with anything you just gotta keep doing it, failure does t mean you quit, it just means you need to try again

[Anonymous No.14588343]

>>14587966
>number one person stressing the importance of increasing birth rates
>children troon out and turn infertile
palpatinesayingironic.png

[Anonymous No.14588344]

>>14588342
Being trans isn't a failure.

[Anonymous No.14588348]

>>14588344
having a child who won't pass on your genes is as objectively a failure as is possible to describe

[Anonymous No.14588353]

>>14588348
you can be trans and still have kids
most get their sperm saved

[Anonymous No.14588356]

>>14588344
It absolutely is
>>14588317
With his means, he could impregnate 100 women and then just cull any defects after

[Anonymous No.14588360]

>>14588348
>won't pass on your genes is as objectively a failure
Not the reason why transgenderism is a failure. Your ubersteinerwaffenkugelblitzen philosophies ain't coming back bro, I'm sorry. People have worth even when they can't make more kids

The real reason is an insightful 6 letter acronym

[Anonymous No.14588365]

>>14588360
at a time when developed nations are all below replacement rate? Having healthy children is more important now than ever.

[Anonymous No.14588367]

>>14588353
Kids are not gonna do so well with a severely mentally ill parent.

[Anonymous No.14588369]

>>14588360
>ubersteinerwaffenkugelblitzen
Gesundheit, you nut

[Anonymous No.14588374]

>>14588348
So does this mean your average /sfg/ virgin is also a failure? [spoiler]Am I a failure?

[Anonymous No.14588377]

Instead of trolling and countertrolling out of sheer fucking boredom why don't we talk about what SLS is doing today? It's doing stuff right now, allegedly.

Spaceflight?

[Anonymous No.14588383]

>>14588377
pumping lox into an orange tank is spaceflight now?

[Anonymous No.14588386]

>>14588383
Well, it's certainly a precursor to it yeah.

[Anonymous No.14588388]

>>14588383
>pumping a milliliter of lox into an orange tank before an abort gets triggered and they announce another investigation and test in 2 more months
ftfy

[Anonymous No.14588390]

Realistically, when will China and Russia have megaconstellations up and running?

[Anonymous No.14588393]

>>14588344
can't imagine anything worse

[Anonymous No.14588397]

>>14588383
Reminder that the orange tank has a limited number of refills before hydrogen embrittlement fucks it in the ass.

[Anonymous No.14588399]

>>14588377
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRJhPd7S2ng
Pros:
>LOX loading has begun
Cons:
>They started 2 hours late and they might have to stop the test before the t-9 plan (AKA pre-emptive damage control)

[Anonymous No.14588401]

>>14588377
>>14588267
The current Artemis 1 SLS is in WDR countdown
Artemis program is delayed
Permanant Moon presence is delayed to next decade or more

[Anonymous No.14588402]

>>14588390
>China
When/if the mange to produce a reusable rocket.
>Russia
Same as above, so never

[Anonymous No.14588425]

>>14588399
>>14588401
Thank you this is spaceflight, or at least spaceflight-adjacent

[Anonymous No.14588429]

>WDR is already 2 hours behind schedule

[Anonymous No.14588435]

>>14588266
>it can’t be aliens because, it just can’t okay!

[Anonymous No.14588439]

what are all these things for?

[Anonymous No.14588446]

>>14588439
Aren't those camera targets of some kind?

[Anonymous No.14588447]

>>14588435
/sfg/ can't abide the idea of a older, smarter, more capable species. its a weird hangup

[Anonymous No.14588448]

>>14588439
Orientation and rotation tracking

[Anonymous No.14588451]

>>14588343
Think of it like the modern version of medieval high infant mortality rates.

Only difference is they don’t die, but they might as well have so the smart strategy is just to have lots of children so a failure or two won’t destroy the entire line.

[Anonymous No.14588454]

>>14588259
The media release claimed “several” cases had been detected. Current cope in news articles is “it could be interference” lol

[Anonymous No.14588458]

>>14588451
>Only difference is they don’t die
They do, it just takes longer and is more of a burden before the end.

[Anonymous No.14588463]

>>14588344
Trannies are mentally and physically ill freaks. Kys

[Anonymous No.14588464]

>>14588344
Literally worse than them dying because now they humiliate themselves and the family while making sure they won’t reproduce so they might as well be dead.

[Anonymous No.14588466]

>>14588360
>People have worth even when they can't make more kids
Only if breeders can somehow exploit them to boost their own reproductive success, like through slavery.

[Anonymous No.14588469]

>>14588360
I'll send my grandchildren to deface your tombstone, what are you gonna do about it?

[Anonymous No.14588472]

>yfw you realize they only reason SLS takes 6+ hours to load with enough fuel to launch is because it's 1980s shuttle technology that was designed to never leave low earth orbit now being forced to contain enough fuel reach the moon

[Anonymous No.14588480]

>>14588472
space is hard

[Anonymous No.14588481]

>>14588472
No I think it's because it's a giant tube of hydrologs

[Anonymous No.14588482]

>>14588472
Shuttle was designed in the mid 60s and presented in late 60s. It was selected to be produced in early 70s. By mid 70s, it orbiter had been made. Testing happened few years after. The first launched happened in early 80s.

[Anonymous No.14588484]

>>14588439
It's a visual orientation marker for the machine that cuts it. Just like on toothpaste tubes

[Anonymous No.14588492]

>>14588447
Don't be racist, all humans are equal.

[Anonymous No.14588509]

>>14588492

[Anonymous No.14588519]

>>14588484
thanks

[Anonymous No.14588520]

>behind countdown for transition from slow fill to fast fill
truly a marvelous piece of engineering

[Anonymous No.14588528]

>>14588520
What does fast fill even mean? How much is that in cubic kilometres per second?

[Anonymous No.14588530]

>issues with hydrogen loading now
…

[Anonymous No.14588532]

>>14588520
It's not that easy in gas stationery

[Anonymous No.14588538]

>>14588401
>tfw humans land on Mars before they land on the Moon

[Anonymous No.14588543]

>https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1538901030863257600
>Contrary to a @NASAGroundSys tweet, NASA TV says that slow fill of liquid hydrogen has not yet begun. Instead, they are going to “step up the chilling” ahead of slow fill. Not clear what the issue is, but they are adjusting loading of liquid oxygen to compensate for the delay.

>https://twitter.com/SpcPlcyOnline/status/1538901823351930883
>11:00 am ET update on Artemis I WDR from NASA's Derrol Nail: LH2 team is still chilling down.
>So LH2 has NOT started flowing even tho they've been given the go and NASA's exploration ground systems Twitter feed said it had started more than 20 minutes ago.
Conflicting information from NASA

[Anonymous No.14588547]

>>14588543
>Liquid hydrogen slow fill has now started. They are about 2.5 hours behind the original timeline, which had LH2 slow full beginning at 8:40 am EDT.
>https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1538902640519696385

[Anonymous No.14588548]

>>14588543
>LH2 team is still chilling down
>LH2 has NOT started flowing
It's not that easy in hydrologgs.

[Anonymous No.14588549]

I think Astra is going to be forced to try for upper stage reusability because their intended-to-be-marginally-good-enough expendable upper stage design isn't working. It needs more structure, more mass, more capability, and more budget... so the only way to keep launch price/cadence sane is reuse. This implies a substantially larger vehicle for Rocket 5 because spaceplanes have a minimum gauge problem due to tile thickness/density.
>but anon the boosters are bigger
Do you know how cheap aluminum, kerosene, and LOX are compared to a lost payload? Adding in SMART reuse and moving all the flight computers to the upper stage would solve the problem from an economic perspective.

[Anonymous No.14588550]

>>14588543
NASA is lying, as usual.

[Anonymous No.14588560]

Test tank

[Anonymous No.14588566]

>>14588560
What does it test?

[Anonymous No.14588572]

What type of habitation should be used for the first few settlers on Mars? I'm thinking inflatables for sure.

[Anonymous No.14588573]

>>14588566
The tank

[Anonymous No.14588575]

>>14588566
Tanking.

[Anonymous No.14588576]

>>14588566
Tankery

[Anonymous No.14588582]

>>14588572
Repurposed Cygnus habitat.

[Anonymous No.14588585]

>>14588572
Starship repurposed. Its already got living quarters that they lived in for the 6 months journey, so why not continue to live in it?

[Anonymous No.14588594]

>>14588566
patience

[Anonymous No.14588597]

>>14588267
Artemis is such a disappointment.

[Anonymous No.14588599]

>>14588566
Tankmatics

[Anonymous No.14588610]

>>14588566
tankvionics

[Anonymous No.14588614]

>>14588585
How stable would an upright Starship be on Mars? They get windstorms but the atmosphere is thin so would that even matter?

[Anonymous No.14588617]

>>14588614
Very stable. Their windstorms amount to nothing more than moving cigarette ashes. It can't move anything heavier even at 60 mph.

[Anonymous No.14588619]

>>14588585
Starship is a bad place for permanent living due to the height of the ship, and laying it on its side would require some heavy machinery

[Anonymous No.14588620]

>>14588614
the wind wouldn't do anything, but you might want to topple it over anyway to cover it in regolith

[Anonymous No.14588625]

>>14588614
They have endured much stronger wings at Starbase.

[Anonymous No.14588627]

>>14588619
Thats like saying living on a hotel is a bad place for due to height.

I doubt people who are deathly afraid of heights are ever gonna set foot near starship.

[Anonymous No.14588630]

>>14588566
Tankonautics

[Anonymous No.14588635]

>>14588619
>laying it on its side would require some heavy machinery
would it? Its dry mass is down to ~75 tons on mars. That's on par with the heaviest stones of the great pyramids.

[Anonymous No.14588637]

>>14588390
chinese company geely has already started launching theirs. they put the first 9 sats in orbit earlier this month.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/chinas-geely-launches-first-nine-low-orbit-satellites-autonomous-cars-2022-06-02/
http://zgh.com/media-center/news/2022-06-02/?lang=en

[Anonymous No.14588639]

>>14588619
>laying it on its side would require some heavy machinery
nah cables, winches and airbags will suffice

[Anonymous No.14588640]

>>14588635
People moved the heaviest stone upwards to build pyramids using simple pulley system. Modern system can lay starship on the ground with couple pieces of steel beam on opposite sides of the pull and hold the starship in place.

[Anonymous No.14588643]

>>14588635
>>14588639
>2mm thick metal
It's dead, Jim

[Anonymous No.14588645]

>>14588643
it's pressurized

[Anonymous No.14588653]

>>14588645
It won't be once it lands for safety reasons, and it won't liftoff afterwards due to a lack of fuel and a pad

[Anonymous No.14588656]

>les hotpocketieres mass deleting posts for three threads in a row

>>14588597
You just know as soon as all the boomer contractors retire Congress will cancel it.

[Anonymous No.14588665]

>>14588653
if you're laying it on the ground to cover it with dirt it's never going to fly again. You've already cut a hole from the cabin into the fuel tank and sealed off the valves permanently. The interior will be pressurized to 1/3rd atmosphere.

[Anonymous No.14588670]

>>14588566
Ever played an MMO?

[Anonymous No.14588671]

>all those deleted posts
fuck the schizo samefags so damn much

[Anonymous No.14588675]

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1538859115409297408
>One other unpleasant detail is this: Internal schedules for Artemis missions now suggest the space agency will, in reality, not reach a cadence of "one Artemis mission per year" until at least 2030.
spacegoy5 on suicide watch

[Anonymous No.14588677]

>>14588675
Only the IFLS midwits haven't known this for years already.

[Anonymous No.14588679]

[Anonymous No.14588680]

[Anonymous No.14588682]

SLS is peeing :/

[Anonymous No.14588684]

>>14588680
>>14588682
Inb4 they realize the leak and scrub it

[Anonymous No.14588685]

>>14588665
Note that everything's going to fly in the interior with this method, and you need to find a reliable anchor point in the smooth patch of land where you've landed.
Even then this thing is 50 meters tall, you're going to need quite a lot of cable to create a stable pulley. And also a motor that won't jam up in the martian sands

[Anonymous No.14588686]

>>14588680
>DAY

[Anonymous No.14588688]

leak?

[Anonymous No.14588692]

>>14588675
also in the comment section
https://twitter.com/CiroTweeter/status/1538868416018370561
>We are having a hard time keeping our experience & talent folks at Ground Systems, seems we are losing groups of people weekly for more fast paced program with better pay. Long delays between launches guarantees they will be handled by less experienced folks.
>Not good.

[Anonymous No.14588694]

>>14588688
LMAO what a piece of orange shit

[Anonymous No.14588695]

[Anonymous No.14588696]

>>14588692
>for more fast paced program with better pay
>and less wokeism

[Anonymous No.14588697]

>>14588643
Crewed Starship and the landed cargo starship should return to the thickness Starhopper had, just get thicker rolls and even add cross-section trusses to enable them being stowed sideways.

[Anonymous No.14588698]

>>14588688
closer view

[Anonymous No.14588701]

>>14588694
It might just be condensation dropping down, i don't know

[Anonymous No.14588702]

>>14588698
>the absolute fucking state

[Anonymous No.14588703]

>>14588698
SOMEONE NEEDS TO SAVE THAT BEETLE

[Anonymous No.14588704]

>>14588685
nice concession bro

[Anonymous No.14588705]

>>14588698
This is normal.

[Anonymous No.14588706]

>>14588627
more so due to radiation than fear of heights (just a guess tho)

[Anonymous No.14588708]

>>14588698
>>14588695
embarrassing.....

[Anonymous No.14588714]

>>14588698
why is it flashing the Morse code for 'Let me die'?

[Anonymous No.14588716]

>>14588695
its falling apart even before it launches lmao

[Anonymous No.14588717]

>The wording of the program makes it (unfortunately) clear that the use and expansion of gateway is the purpose of the Artemis program. All future missions to anywhere beyond LEO must use the station as a requirement
>mars NASA missions require you to go to the gateway first
just fucking end it

[Anonymous No.14588721]

>>14588706
They already lived on Starship for 6 months journey. Now on Mars, the ground below reduces 50% of the radiation. The atmosphere above reduces the radiation by further 10-25%. Whats left inside the Starship will be much much less radiation to the point that it probably wont impact them for decades.

[Anonymous No.14588723]

>Record-Breaking Voyager Spacecraft Begin to Power Down
>How much longer might the Voyagers last? “If everything goes really well, maybe we can get the missions extended into the 2030s,” Spilker says. “It just depends on the power. That's the limiting point.”

So... they aren't powering down yet. Fucking clickbait.

[Anonymous No.14588724]

So to terraform Venus with the sun you would need a sun shield, but if you freeze all the CO2 that would still leave you with kms of solid CO2 ice. Would it be possible to use the solar shield to aim a beam to the side of the planet to ablate off the CO2 gas? Then could you steer that stream of gas into Mars?

[Anonymous No.14588727]

>>14588721
a vertical tower is a PITA for entry/exit, just lower it, it's not difficult

[Anonymous No.14588728]

>>14588727
Many people live in high rise towers for all all their lives.

[Anonymous No.14588730]

>>14588728
Not many.

[Anonymous No.14588735]

3000 hours in mspaint but i fixed it

[Anonymous No.14588738]

>>14588724
You only need to bring it down to Earth-ambient temperature and drop a shitload of water and cyanobacteria into the planet.

[Anonymous No.14588743]

>>14588692
from earlier this year

[Anonymous No.14588748]

>>14588743
brain drain does seem like an unintended consequence of investing this much in commercial partners

[Anonymous No.14588750]

>>14575989
>only actual news in /sfg/ all week
>two replies
/sfg/ is dead

[Anonymous No.14588755]

>>14588750
>/sfg/ is dead
and here's why that's a good thing

[Anonymous No.14588757]

>>14588750
Its ancient news bub. We've already discussed it the moment the news hit within minutes

[Anonymous No.14588763]

[Anonymous No.14588765]

>>14588750
It was Father's Day yesterday.

Re: Markusic, Firefly's collapse has been long predicted. They were so afraid of getting cucked by Astra that the engine licensing deal had a clause barring Astra from using the engine in a one ton or larger rocket for a few years, to protect Firefly Alpha... which will probably not reach orbit until after Rocket 4 anyway, if Firefly ever returns to flight at all.

[Anonymous No.14588771]

>>14588738
If you manage to make it far enough to get earth temperature and pressure making giant dome cities for earth atmosphere and humidity would be an easy task.
But if it is possible to steer a stream of particles through a sun beam ablating off material I suppose you could steer a stream of water off of Ceres

[Anonymous No.14588776]

>>14588738
Even if you bring the temperature down to earth level with some advanced alien magic technology, you'd still have to deal with corrosive acidic atmosphere.


The venus project is a 1000+ year project.

[Anonymous No.14588812]

The tale of two rocket.

Who will reach orbit first?

[Anonymous No.14588817]

>>14588717
Lmao did they explicitly say mara missions need to go to artemis first?
What reason do they give (aside from the grift)?

[Anonymous No.14588833]

>>14588812
Sls unironically

[Anonymous No.14588837]

[Anonymous No.14588853]

https://twitter.com/Space_Station/status/1538930514920448000

>.@NASA and @NorthropGrumman mission controllers are reviewing data after the #Cygnus reboost test was aborted today after five seconds. Next steps are being planned.

[Anonymous No.14588890]

>>14588812
SLS

[Anonymous No.14588910]

>>14588763
Do they expect Starship to explode after reaching altitude? And if so, how does that help anything?

[Anonymous No.14588915]

>>14588817
>What reason do they give (aside from the grift)?
No reason given
Just all mars missions must include gateway

[Anonymous No.14588916]

>>14588910
I'm guessing they mean acting as a nuke deployment system. I could definitely see SS lurching out a warhead at altitude and returning back to its launchpad.

[Anonymous No.14588918]

>>14588910
The interview is with a person who claims its useless/dangerous for Pentagon to do so. Its useless because frontline wont have easily accessible infrastructure for refueling. Its dangerous because the mere thought of doing something like that could lead to an arms race.

The two arguments are flawed because 1) it wont be frontline in the deep. It will be frontline operations/headquarters thats couple hundred miles away from the anything. 2) China/Russia isn't planning on slowing down anytime soon, they're trying to catch up to US as fast as possible. US trying to intentionally slowdown its own natural commercial progress is worse than stupid, its not just negligence, its malignant.

[Anonymous No.14588920]

why's there so much hype for this sls? it's an unmanned mission.

[Anonymous No.14588921]

>>14588812
SLS, in form of debris launched from the massive deflagration in-flight

[Anonymous No.14588924]

>NASA evaluating a possible hydrogen leak
Oh no…

[Anonymous No.14588925]

>>14588920
1. It's a big NASA rocket.
2. It's going to the Moon.

[Anonymous No.14588926]

>>14588925
lots of unmanned missions go to the moon

[Anonymous No.14588930]

how did they have fuckhueg space stations in gundam? how did they deal with the heat management? the iss has massive radiators.

[Anonymous No.14588933]

>>14588920
Big rocket

[Anonymous No.14588939]

>>14588920
paves the way to future manned missions

[Anonymous No.14588940]

>>14588926
Not this big, not since Apollo.

[Anonymous No.14588944]

>>14588920
super heavy lift class rockets are worth the hype

[Anonymous No.14588945]

>>14588926
"Lots of" is an exaggeration. Last mission, launched two years ago, and it was a Chinese rover. The last American craft that entered Lunar orbit was LADEE and that was in 2013.
also >>14588939

[Anonymous No.14588948]

>small grass fire near the excess hydrogen disposal stuff
oh shit I hope it explodes

[Anonymous No.14588952]

>>14588945
And if we go even further, the last unmanned American lander launched in 1968.

[Anonymous No.14588953]

>ICPS leak
>QD Leak
>Teams holding
Why the fuck are they continuing the wet dress then? lol

[Anonymous No.14588955]

>UPDATE: Liquid oxygen upper stage is now in stop flow. The team has discovered a hydrogen leak at a quick disconnect for the core stage and are currently working to understand the situation.
That's it for today, ladies and gentlemen.
Remember, this is why we test.

[Anonymous No.14588956]

>>14588812
both will blow up first launch, but since SLS core two wont be ready until 2026 I spose Starship will orbit on its second or third try

[Anonymous No.14588960]

>>14588916
No they are referring to starship being used as a troop transport
I wonder what a dedicated starship drop would look like. Would you have an expendable second stage with a dragon style propulsive landing pod

[Anonymous No.14588961]

>>14588163
>No. Why do you keep posting this?
Then why did elon musk tweet about it in 2019 or so?

[Anonymous No.14588962]

>>14588955
she's so cute :3 just making sure everything is picture perfect, guaranteed success. a delay is ok bc that ensures success

[Anonymous No.14588964]

>>14588956
If SLS blows up, Starship will fly 50 times before SLS 2 flies

[Anonymous No.14588965]

>>14588955
>SLS-Chan is gassy
Imagine the smell

[Anonymous No.14588970]

>>14588955
Lmao this piece of shit is going to explode on the pad when they try and light it up

[Anonymous No.14588973]

I know Starship is an “unproven system” but I can’t remember the last time one failed a wet dress 4 times in a row

[Anonymous No.14588974]

>>14588962
maybe draw the next one with a dripping wet dress (no undergarments)? Also draw her in a more mature age you fucking pedophile.

[Anonymous No.14588975]

>>14588930
radiators are always ignored, even Kubrick couldn't be bothered

[Anonymous No.14588976]

>>14588970
Also fuck it
If artemis 1 fails i am going to comission sls anime girl guro and spam it to NASA

[Anonymous No.14588977]

>>14588955
>Further: LOX on the ICPS has stopped due to a pressure surge during the flow transition.

>A liquid hydrogen flare stack nearby the launch pad has started a small grassfire. 'In an area not far from the launch pad.'
kek

[Anonymous No.14588978]

>>14588960
there's no way they're going to drop people in odst style

[Anonymous No.14588979]

>>14588962
>green run
More like green mile Lmao

[Anonymous No.14588980]

>>14588977
Holy fuck what a disaster

[Anonymous No.14588981]

The company I work at supplies stuff for SLS. I hope it fuckin explodes I don’t give a shit if I lose my job

[Anonymous No.14588987]

>>14588977
>There's a small grass fire near the LH2 flare stack where excess LH2 bleeds off.
>They think something inside the pipe created the fire.
>The LH2 itself is burned at the flare stack, but something came out and started the fire.

[Anonymous No.14588990]

>>14588970
But... The paperwork! They reextended the booster recertification and everything!

[Anonymous No.14588991]

Can someone explain why SLS keeps having issues?

[Anonymous No.14588994]

>>14588991
The vehicle hasn't been tested in its entire 10+ years of development because it relied upon the heritage Space Shuttle program which had flown since the 80s

[Anonymous No.14588995]

>>14588994
>We’re not gonna test XYZ because it worked the last time
Is NASA retarded?

[Anonymous No.14588997]

>>14588991
>>14588994
Also the development program is different than SpaceX.

SpaceX does hardware rich tests along with software tests.

NASA does paper designs and don't test the vehicle until they're at the final stages. So they have no idea how the vehicle will actually perform.

[Anonymous No.14588999]

>>14588978
The military has been talking about using starship for that ever since Musk announced earth to earth travel, maybe before

[Anonymous No.14589000]

>>14588987
LV0010's first stage also started a grass fire at SLC-46.

[Anonymous No.14589001]

>>14588981
Based, NASA needs a hard reset and only a explosive fiasco will bring one

[Anonymous No.14589002]

>>14588991
They assumed that the important part of the phrase "Building a new rocket with legacy hardware" was the "legacy hardware" bit and not everything else.

[Anonymous No.14589004]

>>14588991
Most of the staff is decrepit boomers and diversity hires.

[Anonymous No.14589005]

>>14589000
LV0010 is a couple million dollar tiny rocket.

SLS on the test stand is worth $2+ billion alone.

[Anonymous No.14589007]

>>14588991
shuttle derived, overly complex and definitely unfit for the job shovelware

[Anonymous No.14589008]

>>14588995
The whole point of using old hardware was so that they wouldn't have issues with testing (and pork)

[Anonymous No.14589009]

>>14588991
All "testing" has been decades of computer modelling.

[Anonymous No.14589010]

In other news, B7 might roll out tomorrow. Key word is “might” because the closure got cancelled but there’s a chance they do an intermittent one

[Anonymous No.14589017]

>>14589010
Wednesday then

[Anonymous No.14589021]

>>14589017
Maybe. The big thing is that we’ll see static fires soon

[Anonymous No.14589027]

>>14588115
Cool. Are the Italians still planning on converting an old aircraft carrier?

[Anonymous No.14589030]

Why does the Starship program have so much soul? And why is it so easy to get attached to the vehicles?

[Anonymous No.14589038]

>>14588991
because it stands in the way of great things

[Anonymous No.14589041]

>>14589008
The space shuttle program was well known for having reliable hardware throughout its service, you should know

[Anonymous No.14589047]

>>14589002
the same legacy hardware that killed 14 astronauts. brave souls tasked with....err... spending a week in orbit to....err....supervize the...errr..earth

[Anonymous No.14589058]

>>14589047
Wouldnt mind so much if they'd died on a Moon/Mars mission. Imagine being on the lunar equivalent of the Terror or Erebus. stranded, certain death. Based

[Anonymous No.14589062]

>>14589041
I didn't say that it was good hardware, just that it's already be used and tested

[Anonymous No.14589069]

>>14589062
I know it just seems odd that NASA thought it'd be smart to build a new unproven vehicle out of a proven death trap

[Anonymous No.14589073]

>>14589069
Something something proven tech something something contractors, etc.

[Anonymous No.14589083]

>>14589069
>build a new unproven vehicle out of a proven death trap
Kek
But wasn't most if not all the problems on the shuttle side of things

[Anonymous No.14589087]

>>14588267
>temporary lunar hab NET 2034
it's fucking over

[Anonymous No.14589099]

>>14589083
anon...

[Anonymous No.14589100]

>>14588054
I would fully support retroactive legislation making astronomy a capital crime with a presumption of guilt and no appeals.

[Anonymous No.14589105]

>>14589083
In the Challenger explosion, the shuttle operated just fine, it was the SRBs that were fucked up. Well, that and the human decision making process.

[Anonymous No.14589111]

fuck off

[Anonymous No.14589119]

>>14589111
Bill Nye the groomer guy

[Anonymous No.14589138]

>>14588131
>local intensity no larger than ambient sunlight
Wow! Imagine having access to a power source as powerful (or less powerful) than sunlight on the surface of the earth. And all we need to do to get it is to spend trillions and decades on untested designs with no plausible means of construction or deployment!

[Anonymous No.14589148]

>>14588377
SLS is off topic. We might as well discuss the personal finances of senators, too.

[Anonymous No.14589150]

>>14588964
Probably even if they had a 5 launches/year limit the entire time.
>>14589105
It's a good thing they kept that SRB system, because we already know how well it works!

[Anonymous No.14589154]

>>14588386
>implying SLS will ever successfully launch
you weren’t bullied enough when you were a gay-looking child

[Anonymous No.14589158]

>>14588397
What’s their cost to orbit? Saying you’re going to build a constellation is cheap and requires no technical ability

[Anonymous No.14589163]

>>14589138
> catty histrionics
never change solarfag

[Anonymous No.14589164]

Future Starlinks may have to include a single-use cold gas thruster in case of imminent collision with projectiles from an oriental adversary nation. Ion thrusters would not generate enough lift between launch detection and impact.

[Anonymous No.14589167]

>>14589138
They threw that part in there because concentrated delivery of space solar is a killsat. A solar powered killsat fleet would render ICBMs useless for deterrent and thus lead to all sorts of problems for the military. We won't get proper space solar power OR laser thermal propulsion until China and Russia collapse.

[Anonymous No.14589168]

they're using starship to land on the moon, but how much payload are they bringing with them?

[Anonymous No.14589171]

>>14589168
That depends on NASA.

[Anonymous No.14589173]

>>14588566
You, get in.

[Anonymous No.14589175]

>>14589168
25 tons I believe.

[Anonymous No.14589176]

>>14589168
starship is just a lander that shuttles between the surface and gateway

[Anonymous No.14589178]

>>14588543
Jesus fucking Christ. I’m glad the retards they’re paying billions to do this don’t work at gas stations.

[Anonymous No.14589180]

>>14588975
I recall reading that it was going to have radiators but they were afraid the audience would mistake them for wings so they left them out.

[Anonymous No.14589182]

>>14588566

[Anonymous No.14589185]

Reports coming in that the grass fire has spread and a baby's nest of Ocelots is going up in flames.

[Anonymous No.14589187]

>>14588543
>3:00 pm ET update: LOX back in flow for upper stage.
>LH2 leak in core stage quick disconnect--trying to get a seal to reseat by warming back up to ambient temps and slowly chilling back down.
>Clock shows T-0 wld be 4:28 pm ET but not in sync. That time not looking good.

https://twitter.com/SpcPlcyOnline/status/1538961851270238213

The ride never ends

[Anonymous No.14589189]

>>14588812
>>14588698
>>14588688
Orange tanks are a disgrace.

[Anonymous No.14589194]

>>14589138
SBSP isn't hard, it's just not economical and it has political roadblocks as it's basically a weapons platform. Scaling solar is relatively easy, send up a bunch of ROSAs and have a robotic arm install them on trusses that have RSC.
>>14589163
You're mistaken, not everyone you argue with is the person who lives rent free in your head after you lost an internet argument literally over a year ago.

[Anonymous No.14589199]

>>14589194
I mean RCS

[Anonymous No.14589200]

https://twitter.com/planet4589/status/1538960051414646796
>Space-Track confirms the presence of four secret payloads on the Globalstar Falcon 9 launch - USA 328 to USA 331, catalog 52889 to 52892, orbital data not available. One piece of debris, probably a Starlink-style tension rod?

Not one but several secret sats.

[Anonymous No.14589207]

>>14589194
Oh you're a completely different cum gargling homo? My apologies

[Anonymous No.14589212]

>>14588953
The “wet” in wet dress rehearsal refers to SLS wetting itself before exploding

[Anonymous No.14589215]

>>14588981
based

[Anonymous No.14589222]

>>14589005
>SLS on the test stand is worth $2+ billion alone.
>mistaking cost for worth
thinking errors like this are part of the problem

[Anonymous No.14589226]

>>14589207
>cum gargling homo
I'd really stop projecting when you act like a jilted lover. As much as it was humorous to see you accuse other people of being me, it has gotten old.

[Anonymous No.14589230]

>>14589185
I blame the beetles, they're such fire bugs.

[Anonymous No.14589240]

https://twitter.com/NASAGroundSys/status/1538969535272955906
>UPDATE: Three of the four @NASA_SLS tanks are now fully filled. Liquid oxygen is currently at fast fill for upper stage. Team is working a plan to reseal at the hydrogen leak.

[Anonymous No.14589242]

Ouch, just learned that one of Musk's sons is trooning out.
Hopefully this doesn't distract him from his SpaceX priorities, or make him do something utterly retarded, like fire a good tard wrangler of his.

[Anonymous No.14589243]

>>14589163
You may actually be mentally ill. Get help.

>>14589167
Makes sense!

>>14589194
I don’t know if sbsp in general is feasible, although I would love it to be. It’s just that this proposal as written is pointless.

[Anonymous No.14589248]

>>14589111
Oh no the Martians are going to be pissed about this. I wonder how much the fine will be

[Anonymous No.14589262]

>>14589248
The US should have charged the whole town with theft and sentenced them to exile in a desert shithole prison colony.

[Anonymous No.14589275]

>>14589242
>Hopefully this doesn't distract him from his SpaceX priorities, or make him do something utterly retarded
too late

[Anonymous No.14589285]

>>14589275
what he do?

[Anonymous No.14589288]

>>14589285
Generally be a retard on Twitter.

[Anonymous No.14589291]

>>14589248
Did NASA pay?

[Anonymous No.14589294]

>>14589288
anything new i mean

[Anonymous No.14589298]

>>14589242
>Musk's sons is trooning out.
I bet it's this bitch's fault
Hopefully Elon will slap some sense into the kid, before he's too far gone
https://mobile.twitter.com/astro_greek/status/1538552419554058240

[Anonymous No.14589299]

>countdown meant literally nothing since they need everyone to catchup now which is going to take at least another hour
oh nononononononononononononooooo

[Anonymous No.14589301]

>qd reseal failed
uh oohhhhhh

[Anonymous No.14589302]

I’m conflicted between expecting Artemis 1 to be a massive failure that kills SLS and Orion or a total success with no issues whatsoever.
NASA/Boeing has a pattern of having something to terribly wrong (SLS Green Run 1, Starliner OFT-1, WDR 1) before fixing it and doing it perfectly (Green Run 2, OFT-2, WDR 2).
I have confidence NASA is being so autistic about Artemis 1 that there’s no way it’ll fail (kind of like JWST).

[Anonymous No.14589306]

>>14589302
SLS being a massive failure kills Artemis and landing on the Moon.

[Anonymous No.14589309]

>Countdown at the T-10 minute hold for at least a half-hour. Sill troubleshooting the hydrogen leak after one attempt to fix it failed.
https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1538975121603436545

We'll find out whether or not they can seal the leak

[Anonymous No.14589311]

>>14589302
>WDR 2
They already have several critical problems

[Anonymous No.14589313]

>>14589309
How do they seal the leak during the WDR?

[Anonymous No.14589316]

>>14588698
>putting the "wet" in WDR

[Anonymous No.14589317]

>>14589180
that's the story, but it's pretty easy to design radiators that look nothing like wings and my suspicion is kubrick just liked the sperm-like look of discovery and confusing the audience was his excuse for keeping it as it was

[Anonymous No.14589319]

>>14589313
normalize temps, reclaim seal, reduce temps

[Anonymous No.14589322]

>>14588727
it has an elevator you fat fuck, its not like they're required to use a ladder

[Anonymous No.14589326]

>>14589317
that's designed to convect, not radiate

[Anonymous No.14589328]

>>14589306
Nope. The Starship Programme exists and is better

>>14589309
How do you seal a leak remotely? Haha

>>14589311
I have a feeling NASA will call it a success and proceed with launch preparations because it’s “close enough.”

[Anonymous No.14589333]

>>14589328
>close enough
Good. Bring on the RUD.

[Anonymous No.14589335]

>>14588974
head to body ratio is normal, anon
the pedophilia is in your own head, as it always is

[Anonymous No.14589338]

>ctrl-F "arca"
>0 results

/sfg/ please

[Anonymous No.14589340]

>Artemis1: Update liquid hydrogen leak in tail service mast fix did NOT work. That was the one fix option the team had, per NASA PAO. Teams are assessing if there's anything else they can do. Uncertain if they can proceed.

[Anonymous No.14589341]

>>14589176
starship returns to earth orbit to refuel. they can add payload there when it arrives.

[Anonymous No.14589342]

>>14589328
>How do you seal a leak remotely?

Letting it warm up then cooling it down again.

[Anonymous No.14589344]

>>14589340
straight shootin Chuck is based and correctpilled.

[Anonymous No.14589349]

>>14589243
SBSB could be more efficient than ground based solar but that's not how we buy power so it doesn't matter. The low efficiency of thin-film PV and the transmission losses of beaming power would be made up for by the panels receiving 1,361 W/m2 almost 24/7 in GEO whereas sunny areas in the US average around 300 W/m2. SBSB would also require far less energy storage. Mostly it's just that launch prices will remain relatively high even with Starship and that space grade panels will be expensive unless we deploy gigawatts of them. On the other hand land prices and regulations are an increasing contributor to the cost of solar as the panels themselves become dirt cheap, but then again there's always floating solar.

[Anonymous No.14589356]

SLS is kill...

[Anonymous No.14589360]

>>14589338
How's the water pump rogget doing?

[Anonymous No.14589375]

>>14589360
more amicable to WDRs than the lh2 pump rogget

[Anonymous No.14589377]

if starship gets to orbit by the end of the year, literally how will they justify spending more money on sls?

[Anonymous No.14589379]

Remember guys, this is why we test!

[Anonymous No.14589380]

>>14589377
Good paying union jobs
Elon Musk is a racist anti-union rich capitalist

[Anonymous No.14589384]

>>14589377
Starship it's human rated yet, so it can't do the only job of SLS.

[Anonymous No.14589386]

>>14589377
>how will they justify spending more money on sls?
Orion, which is in itself a massive ripoff.

[Anonymous No.14589391]

>>14589240
Lmao
Beta on how many times they can fill it until it explodes due to brittlement?

[Anonymous No.14589395]

>>14589342

[Anonymous No.14589397]

Meanwhile, tanktesting at Starbase.

[Anonymous No.14589399]

>>14589384
Starship will never be man-rated

[Anonymous No.14589400]

>>14589379
Exactly. Rigorous testing needed to be done to keep science frauds away from postilions of prominence where they could do real damage to the public perception of science.

[Anonymous No.14589402]

>Bernie Sanders wants more money to be funneled to companies that will use it to bomb children in the Middle East instead of SpaceX
>Somehow people are okay with this
?

[Anonymous No.14589404]

>Update 4:30 pm ET: hold is being extended to work the LH2 leak. No new T-0 yet.

[Anonymous No.14589405]

>>14589194
It's not economical because land isn't that valuable on Earth, however presumably at some point you start to run out of good cheap land to build solar on earth at which point you can only continue to scale solar by moving into space.
There is also the case that in the long term, if you manage to build a manufacturing chain in space that can build the solar, that space solar cost would come down considerably, potentially less than ground based.

Also it's likely that there are some other use cases for space beamed power rather than just baseload grid power.
For example you could use it to power moving vehicles, including aircraft, which are notoriously tricky to power with electric batteries.
AFAIK the USAF has already experimented with this using a payload on their X-37.

[Anonymous No.14589407]

>>14589402
Because rich man bad, bombing middle eastern children good

>>14589404
>They're (NASA) going to make one more attempt to fix a leaky seal in a quick-disconnect hydrogen line. If that doesn't work, likely a scrub for today's test.
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1538984706875719683

[Anonymous No.14589409]

If people wants to send people to space on Starship and then land it, what rules do they have to follow? What's the procedure of getting "human-rated"?

[Anonymous No.14589410]

>>14589242
I'm now convinced (((they))) developed a trooning ray that is used on the children of whoever they want to reign in.

[Anonymous No.14589411]

>>14589410
He lives in California, no need for 'troon ray'.

[Anonymous No.14589414]

>>14589409
Musk just needs to send millions of colonist to Mars

[Anonymous No.14589416]

>>14589409
>If *SpaceX wants to send people to space on Starship

[Anonymous No.14589417]

>>14589410
based schizo
>>14589411
cringe neurotypical

[Anonymous No.14589419]

>>14589404
>Update from Derrol at 4:44 pm ET: both LH2 tanks are in stop flow due to leak; upper stage LOX tank in stop flow to do a test of pressure relief valve; core stage LOX tank in replenish mode.
https://twitter.com/SpcPlcyOnline/status/1538986396547010562

[Anonymous No.14589422]

>>14589411

[Anonymous No.14589426]

why would you willingly torture yourself with hydrogen?

[Anonymous No.14589430]

>>14589409
NASA has a process for NASA missions and there currently is no official process for private missions. The only company to actually do a private mission is SpaceX and it was on a dragon which is already rated by NASA for NASA missions so the FAA accepted the mission on those grounds. SpaceX will likely have to deal with the FAA coming up with the process of validating a manned mission that hasn't gone through NASA's approval process.

[Anonymous No.14589431]

[Anonymous No.14589434]

do what they're doing with gateway, build a robotic outpost on the moon that is sometimes manned. that way we can at least have something on the moon.

[Anonymous No.14589440]

>>14589434
That's what China is doing.
However, NASA is sending various landers to the surface of the Moon through CLPS.

[Anonymous No.14589447]

[Anonymous No.14589452]

>>14589375
Nice. GL to Arca, any upcoming testing?

[Anonymous No.14589453]

Big cranes up at LC-39A

[Anonymous No.14589457]

>>14589453
OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.14589460]

>>14589419
https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1538991318034264065

>NASA says they’re done troubleshooting the leaky quick disconnect. They’re now proposing continuing the count despite the ongoing leak to see if they can get through most of the terminal count. Moving the goalposts a bit.

They went with, "who cares about leaks" mode and just want to see how much they can push without exploding

[Anonymous No.14589462]

>Liquid hydrogen team done troublshooting. presenting recommendations -- including getting further into Terminal Count & get more hydrogen into the tank. Basically, fake out the computer so it doesn't see the leak. Go to down to T-90secs.

[Anonymous No.14589465]

>>14589460
rare based moment for NASA

[Anonymous No.14589469]

I’m telling you, theyre going to say the test was “good enough” and move on with the launch process

[Anonymous No.14589471]

>>14589465
Its an option from the hydrogen leak investigation, but not a final decision yet. This may turn out catastrophic if they fail to adhere to safety standards they set for themselves.

[Anonymous No.14589474]

>>14589405
>that space solar cost would come down considerably, potentially less than ground based
I agree, especially with flexible blanket PV that is deployed similar to a solar sail since labor and mounting structure add a fair amount to the cost of solar. It needs to be produced by the roll and deployed autonomously, even further into the future the same technology can be used to create a Dyson ring.

[Anonymous No.14589477]

>>14589471
>This may turn out catastrophic
That's why I like that decision.

[Anonymous No.14589478]

God please let SLS explode. Amen.

[Anonymous No.14589484]

>>14589460
Reminder that if Spacex did this with CRS-25 NASA would chew them out.

[Anonymous No.14589490]

>>14589484
Hydrazine leak for Dragon pushed them few weeks and remade the valve

[Anonymous No.14589493]

>>14589478
Machine god says yes

[Anonymous No.14589496]

>>14589478
My digits determine the fate of the SLS

[Anonymous No.14589497]

>>14589460
I don't know if its a good decision or not, but this sort of decision/judgement is likely being clouded by the fact that everyone wants SLS to just GO.

[Anonymous No.14589504]

>>14589478
Granted.

[Anonymous No.14589508]

>>14589460
that's not a good look, is it

[Anonymous No.14589515]

>>14589478
both the explosion and the aftermath would be epic, and ultimately nothing of value would be lost, in fact billions of dollars would be saved

[Anonymous No.14589519]

SLS: Senate's Labor System
SLS: Space Leakage System

[Anonymous No.14589530]

Dubs and it explodes

[Anonymous No.14589531]

I am so making another virgin vs CHAD meme about this, but this time I'll actually hand-draw it.

[Anonymous No.14589534]

The test is over right?

[Anonymous No.14589540]

>top minds in this room

[Anonymous No.14589541]

proposing to shoot for -33s by shutting a few warnings off

[Anonymous No.14589543]

>https://twitter.com/SpcPlcyOnline/status/1538999548676390915
>Waiting for 5:30 pm ET update. LD Blackwell-Thompson said back on April 5 they like to keep the workdays to 12 hours or less. They're coming up on that pretty soon.

[Anonymous No.14589544]

>how much longer will it take to plan for the next part of the plan?
>standby

[Anonymous No.14589561]

A “Death of Stalin” style comedy about SLS would be great

[Anonymous No.14589569]

big crane is up at lc-39a

[Anonymous No.14589572]

>>14589460
based, lets see that fireball

[Anonymous No.14589586]

>>14589561
DOS works because of the lethal consequences if the characters lose out, nothing happens when NASA fucks up

[Anonymous No.14589608]

>>14589543
Update: still talking with team

Its 6:08 PM now in Florida. They've been on this WDR since 5:30 AM. + 1 hr+ before for work prep. So they're already into 13.5 hours of continued test

[Anonymous No.14589616]

>>14588698
Looks more like condensation or something.

[Anonymous No.14589625]

>>14589317
Heat sinks like this are predicated on the idea that interreflection is actually useful because it can more quickly heat the air being moved over the sink, the faster the air is heated up and then moved away the more heat the sink can reject. In space all this would do is massively inter-reflect heat, trapping it in the sink and making it become hotter and hotter. A radiator should have zero interreflection, ideally, meaning that radiators should come in sets of four which protrude from the ship at 90 degree angles, this is the most radiators you can have while guaranteeing that no radiator can "see" any other.

[Anonymous No.14589644]

Never forget that one failure is not the end of things. Elon doesn't put all his resources into a single rocket.

[Anonymous No.14589654]

>>14589644
Yep. Actually on that fact, SpaceX is seemingly beefing up the tank stringers and downcomer protection on their upcoming ships and boosters. Might not be good news for S24 and B7 as they don’t have this extra protection, but it just shows how SpaceX makes changes ASAP

[Anonymous No.14589660]

>>14589497
>everyone wants SLS to just GO.
That seems uncharacteristically motivated for SLS.

[Anonymous No.14589671]

>>14589497
>everyone wants SLS to just GO
Speak for yourself. I just want it to blow up on the pad.

[Anonymous No.14589677]

NASA is weirdly gung-ho with SLS. They want to put crew on flight 2 of Block 1, and the FIRST FLIGHT of Block 1B.

[Anonymous No.14589678]

>MMT about to poll on the plan. Hoping the computer will be masked from the issues and get down to T-9 seconds.

[Anonymous No.14589679]

>>14589671
I want it to be delayed a few more months to maximize the odds of booster fuckery

[Anonymous No.14589680]

>>14589678
Will they redo the WDR?

[Anonymous No.14589682]

Why can’t they do a static fire test on the pad of the core stage engines? It’s been over a year since they last fired. Crazy.

[Anonymous No.14589691]

>>14589677
Didn't they put crew on the first flight of SLS?

[Anonymous No.14589694]

>>14589691
STS I mean

[Anonymous No.14589695]

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1539016844404838402

Berger shitposting

[Anonymous No.14589697]

>>14589453
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itzaF8ctR2M

[Anonymous No.14589701]

>>14589679
I wonder if the fact that they're planning to fly on expired boosters will ever be mentioned again.
If I used twitter I'd poke Berger about it until he wrote an article or something.

[Anonymous No.14589702]

>>14589691
>>14589694
yes and i believe john young said he would have called an abort if he'd realized how many tiles they were losing on the ascent

[Anonymous No.14589705]

>>14589680
Single shot run

[Anonymous No.14589707]

>>14589702
wrong pic, fuck webp

[Anonymous No.14589710]

>>14589701
I ate a can of beans that I had lying around and was past the date stamped "Best by" on them, and they were still pretty good. I imagine it's like that.

[Anonymous No.14589711]

>>14589695
>YOU DIDNT SEE THE HYDROGEN LEAK BECAUSE ITS NOT FUCKING THERE!

[Anonymous No.14589713]

>>14589710
Those o-rings are a bit more finicky about timing than beans

[Anonymous No.14589724]

>>14589671
>everyone wants SLS to just GO [up in flames]

[Anonymous No.14589725]

>>14589399
exactly, it will be wxmn rated only

[Anonymous No.14589726]

>>14589691
>>14589694
Only two.

[Anonymous No.14589728]

WE GAAN

[Anonymous No.14589730]

reminder you need pre-existing infrastructure if you want people to move into space

[Anonymous No.14589735]

>>14589185
Can NASA be sued for this?

[Anonymous No.14589745]

>>14589460
Ummmmm...based??

[Anonymous No.14589746]

>>14589185
FAA in 30

[Anonymous No.14589753]

>>14589380
>reeeeeeeeeeeee I don't have a job and will never breed...reeeeeeeee

[Anonymous No.14589754]

OH N-

[Anonymous No.14589759]

>>14589754
Check the LC29 crane for snipers

[Anonymous No.14589770]

>>14589730
Some people want to build the infrastructure

[Anonymous No.14589778]

>>14589770
yeah but most of them wait for someone to pay for it first

[Anonymous No.14589779]

Countdown resumes

[Anonymous No.14589781]

TERMINAL COUNTDOWN
TERMINAL COUNTDOWN
TERMINAL COUNTDOWN

[Anonymous No.14589784]

>>14589779
We are go for gaan

[Anonymous No.14589785]

So in all seriousness, aren't domed and underground cities incredibly unhealthy? Isn't this going to be horrible long term for colonists?

[Anonymous No.14589786]

>>14589785
Lack of sunlight will be brutal

[Anonymous No.14589787]

>>14589786
europe...

[Anonymous No.14589789]

>>14589786
Works OK for people who live in the far north/south

[Anonymous No.14589790]

>>14589787
there's a good reason why so many Europeans look like inbred fish people

[Anonymous No.14589791]

>>14589785
Nah

[Anonymous No.14589794]

>>14589790
>>>>la americana

[Anonymous No.14589795]

>>14589785
No, an enclosed Mars city has to be a completely closed system. If there is anything necessary for human life which cannot be synthesized and 100% recycled then it's never going to work.

[Anonymous No.14589800]

>Launch clamps proceed to let go without ignition

[Anonymous No.14589801]

>>14589785
The first few generations will most likely live short, miserable lives. It genuinely cannot be sugarcoated.

[Anonymous No.14589802]

>>14589794
Scaly Yuro fins typed this post.

[Anonymous No.14589804]

im sure one day there will be big ass domes and other open areas, like really big

[Anonymous No.14589806]

How can Starship even compete?

[Anonymous No.14589808]

>>14589802
morbidly obese meatloafs typed this response

[Anonymous No.14589811]

>>14589806
it's still crazy to me the degree to which the starship program embarrasses every other space launch program on earth in ambition. It's a shame that government programs legally aren't allowed to be ambitious anymore—maybe even more incredible that Apollo happened at all.

[Anonymous No.14589812]

>>14589808
>>14589794
Europeans are ugly…a very disgusting group of people

[Anonymous No.14589813]

>>14589801
Original reflects your post better.

[Anonymous No.14589814]

HOLD HOLD HOLD

[Anonymous No.14589815]

>>14589813
And ofcourse the basednauts variant

[Anonymous No.14589819]

ITS OVER

[Anonymous No.14589820]

>>14589813
Darkness has always symbolized a lack of knowledge, the things we don't understand, the "unknown" is darkness. The most fundamental symbol of science is fire. Exploring space is in a very real sense about fighting against the darkness.

[Anonymous No.14589823]

WET DRESS: TOTAL SUCCESS
LAUNCHING SOON

[Anonymous No.14589825]

Starship stacking spotted in Boca Chica

Tanks venting

Launching in 30

[Anonymous No.14589826]

CYGNUS FAILURE

>A planned reboost maneuver of the International Space Station ended after just 5 seconds for reasons currently unknown.

[Anonymous No.14589832]

>livestream of 39A
>its paypig only

[Anonymous No.14589833]

Remember when a Starship’s engines had too much power so they aborted the launch, deleted the thrust limit, then let it go? Good times

[Anonymous No.14589834]

>>14589790
Yeah, all the chads either emigrated or died in the wars.

[Anonymous No.14589835]

>>14589826
Is SpaceX going to have to do everything?

[Anonymous No.14589836]

i read that B7 is supposed to move to the launch site tomorrow?

[Anonymous No.14589837]

>>14589820
>carving away at it with fire
haha rockets go fwoosh

[Anonymous No.14589838]

>>14589836
Maybe tomorrow maybe the day later. The closure disappeared but it could come back

[Anonymous No.14589840]

>>14589785
the radiation above ground is much worse :)

[Anonymous No.14589841]

>>14589460
I appreciate the gusto, but I'm a bit surprised that they're forcing the matter like this. The purpose of the WDR is to get all the kinks out before the actual launch. If they skip ahead it just means that the launch will be buggy and suffer numerous scrubs. Then again I'm sure they know what they're doing. Perhaps there are some politics in the background that make this being a success important.

>>14589826
link for those interested: https://blogs.nasa.gov/spacestation/2022/06/20/cygnus-reboost-aborted-next-steps-being-planned/

[Anonymous No.14589842]

Berger tweet
>NASA is focused on "safing" the SLS rocket. Then they will investigate what "flag" caused the on-board computer to terminate the countdown at T-29 seconds. The big question is whether NASA has enough data now, or will attempt a 5th WDR

[Anonymous No.14589848]

>>14589841
look at the senators backing this and what of the 20 companies are in which states, then you have your answer :)

[Anonymous No.14589852]

space colonies are going to look like indoor shopping malls with dome coverings

[Anonymous No.14589853]

>>14589833
>doktor, remove my thrust inhibitors

[Anonymous No.14589862]

>>14588016
I prefer/stg/ these days

[Anonymous No.14589868]

>>14589842
They only have so many cycles on that tank right... Getting close to 10

[Anonymous No.14589871]

SLS is not closer to launching than Super Heavy Starship

[Anonymous No.14589873]

>>14589852
No they won't, because complex petrochemicals are going to be an absolute bitch to source locally. They'll be cave cities with sun domes.

[Anonymous No.14589891]

I wasn't paying attention, is that it? Held at 29?

[Anonymous No.14589975]

>>14589868
They're rated for 22 cycles

[Anonymous No.14589977]

>>14589862
Take your meds.

[Anonymous No.14589980]

>>14589871
this is just sad

[Anonymous No.14589987]

>>14589891
Kinda vague. Target was T-9, but the announcer also said they expected ALS to flag right after handoff.
My guess is they wanted to drive to T-9 but knew it was going to be a crapshoot once they handed off to ALS so weren't surprised when the Jedi Mind Trick failed.

[Anonymous No.14589991]

Hydrogen embitterment

[Anonymous No.14589997]

>>14589832
where? I'll pirate stream it for /sfg/.

[Anonymous No.14590000]

i'm fine with NASA ignoring minor WDR failures if they don't think they're big deals but what's the point of announcing your goals beforehand if you're just going to announce after the fact that sub-nominal operations were good enough?

[Anonymous No.14590011]

>>14590000
Checked
It’s literally goalpost moving and a way of handwaving difficulties. It definitely works on some people lol.
I also think this is showing a cultural failing of NASA that will ultimately lead to an actual failure

[Anonymous No.14590013]

>>14589997
https://spaceflightnow.com/2022/06/16/watch-live-spacexs-launch-pad-39a-20220616/

[Anonymous No.14590017]

>>14590013
The Starship pad will be built and fitted with chopsticks before SLS launches. Screencap this

[Anonymous No.14590018]

>>14590013
What are you on about?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GoC0sksnoQ

[Anonymous No.14590021]

>>14590018
not that, the starship stage zero construction at 39A

[Anonymous No.14590025]

/sfg/, you get to be the historical and technical advisor for a reboot of the show, “For All Mankind.” What would you change? It’s still space alt history but everything is free reign

[Anonymous No.14590027]

>>14590025
I didn't watch it because I hate TV.

[Anonymous No.14590028]

>>14590025
I think I stopped watching after the 1st or 2nd episode immediately after a scene of some spics jumping the border. Not interested.

[Anonymous No.14590037]

>>14590025
>Soviets didn't cancel the N1 after Apollo 11
>it eventually works
>Cosmonauts literally kick over the Apollo 11 flag and desecrate the landing site out of spite
>itsonnowfaggot.tar
>space race keeps on escalating
>rapidly reaches the limit of expendable rocketry
>Saturn-Shuttle with winged boosters and Skylab-scale lego stations bring about the ISS-equivalent era by 1977 but it's a military fortification of LEO
>anything the Soviets try to TLI gets shot down
>Soviets counter with Mir Chunguski space forts
>only direct-ascent launches in the gaps in station coverage can succeed, which puts Isp at a monstrous premium for lunar or even GEO/Molniya missions
>enter NERVA upper stages
>Soviets start delivering carrier-killer anti-ship missiles to Mao and Ho Chi Minh
>US bombs the shit out of Cuba and mines their harbors, preventing another 1962
And I'm spitballing this right now so that's as far as I've gamed it out.

[Anonymous No.14590039]

>Boing Failure
>Cygnus Failure
>NASA Failure
SpaceX Chads just keep winning without even trying

[Anonymous No.14590043]

>>14590039
I'm getting kind of worried. It's looking like we're going to pivot from a market with zero competition to another market with zero competition.

[Anonymous No.14590054]

>>14590043
At the absolute minimum it'll be a market run by an autist who just wants people on Mars. Eventually SpaceX will go bad without competition but as long as Elon is in charge I doubt they'll go full monopoly with it

[Anonymous No.14590060]

>>14589868
>>14589891
they'll just write a waiver for it like the SRBs and hope there's no congressional hearings in their futute

[Anonymous No.14590061]

>>14590054
>>14590043
Not to mention that if Starship is even a fraction of it's intended backend cost they'll be able to "gouge" like crazy and still be cheaper than anything on the market today.

[Anonymous No.14590064]

>>14588962
Faggot go home

[Anonymous No.14590069]

>>14590039
>BO can't even get high enough to fail
>but they can keep Vulcan grounded waiting for engines

[Anonymous No.14590070]

>>14589785
>>14589786
we can make artificial sunlight just fine and have been doing so for years
plus, supplements can be provided when and if its not enough

[Anonymous No.14590078]

>>14590025
Following on from the show Korolev doesn't die so the N1 is better. Apollo program suffers from setbacks, allowing the Soviets to catch up and land on the Moon first.

Don't know much about Soviet post-Lunar plans, so I assume they do flags and footprints missions like what America did IRL. NASA's budget isn't gimped and move the goalposts as they make a Moonbase and press for Mars. Soviets respond likewise. Probably nothing on the scale of what happens in the show, but more Antarctic base tier.

Apollo-Soyuz now happens on the Lunar surface. None of this dickwaving 'weaponisation of space' bullshit, because there are no borders in space. Drama comes from political infighting within the programs (Korolev vs Glushko, NASA vs Congress to prevent budget cuts as Vietnam is happening).

Saturn V construction continues. Shuttle, Energia, Salyut and Mir are nowhere to be seen. Nuclear rockets become commonly used. Mars landing in the 80s with one country building the base and the other having the better transport (like IRL Shuttle-Mir). USSR still collapses. Joint ISS probably happens soon afterward. Private companies only emerge after the dot-com bubble in the 2000s; the limitation was cash not technology.

[Anonymous No.14590082]

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/ondemand/video/3004855/

[Anonymous No.14590088]

Was today Boings fault?

[Anonymous No.14590090]

>>14590082
I hadn't been watching the news when MDA bought DigitalGlobe and turned it into Maxar, but I always thought it was interesting that Maxar did humanitarian imaging as spysat PR

[Anonymous No.14590091]

>>14590070
speaking of this
anons should get their blood tested for vitamin d
basically guaranteed that you are low on it
get some supplements for it, its a major part of our body

also funny story, the medical field is just as bad as old space, the recommend levels of vit d are actually way lower than they should be because of a screwup in the 70s

[Anonymous No.14590092]

>>14589200
>The four classified satellites launched together with Globalstar FM15 on a Falcon 9 rocket yesterday have been detected in a ~535 km orbit at 53 deg inclination.
https://twitter.com/cgbassa/status/1539044005564100609

[Anonymous No.14590093]

>>14589200
>>14590092
One of the secret payloads was /SFG/-1 cubesat

[Anonymous No.14590103]

>>14589785
Not really, most of this website lives in their mom's basement and we're the picture of mental health

[Anonymous No.14590120]

>>14590090
Now that constellations have enabled more frequent revisit rates some of their business is just shit like looking at shipping ports and using AI to track how many containers are coming and going. Pic unrelated.

[Anonymous No.14590125]

>>14590120
I forgot some of Elon’s kids are grown adults now.
I’d fuck him desu

[Anonymous No.14590137]

>>14590120
>acne
>silky long hair
>petite hips and legs
>linebacker shoulders
poor kid drank the poison (they) are pushing and will never make it to Mars

[Anonymous No.14590150]

Million dollar question: Will NASA redo the WDR? Eric Berger says maybe, but NASA is oddly trying to rush SLS

[Anonymous No.14590161]

>>14590064
you arent allowed to be transphobic this month. it's june-teenth. read a book dumbass

[Anonymous No.14590162]

>https://twitter.com/IntRocketLaunch/status/1538998626084474880

why is russia doing this? are they working towards fairing recovery?

[Anonymous No.14590165]

>>14590150
why? it was a massive success

[Anonymous No.14590177]

>>14590162
Nope. Just some pictures. The fairing smacked into the ground without a parachute. SpaceX did that too at one point

[Anonymous No.14590179]

>>14590162
It completely broke apart during the separation. So I doubt it. But its still another cool footage

[Anonymous No.14590181]

>>14590162
Just Rozgozin shitposting

[Anonymous No.14590182]

>>14590177
yeah but why are they suddenly putting cameras on the fairings

[Anonymous No.14590191]

4.5 hours until worst korea launch

[Anonymous No.14590192]

>>14590191
forgot the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKtauy9s0bk

[Anonymous No.14590205]

Oh no, musk sisters!

[Anonymous No.14590220]

>>14590205
>ban evasion

[Anonymous No.14590235]

>>14590205
reminder that she did this to her child to spite musk
https://www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/a5380/millionaire-starter-wife/

[Anonymous No.14590236]

>>14590235
Elon has engine out capability. 6 more sons. Plus a (real) daughter.

[Anonymous No.14590242]

>>14590150
rushing SLS is a good thing, time to shit or get off the pot

[Anonymous No.14590243]

>>14590220
It's against the rules? I'll get rid of it then.

[Anonymous No.14590247]

Imagine giving up a billion dollar inheritance just so you can get fake genitalia

[Anonymous No.14590250]

>>14590162
webm: >>>/wsg/4585073

[Anonymous No.14590257]

>>14590150
>Berger says maybe
Is Berger still credible?

[Anonymous No.14590267]

>>14590257
When was he never credible?

[Anonymous No.14590273]

>>14590247
Do you remember what it felt like to be 18 anon?

[Anonymous No.14590283]

>>14590273
I remember it like it was year ago (because it was a year ago) and I wasn't retarded enough to do that

[Anonymous No.14590286]

>>14590250
russia is just dropping space debris in africa? what the fuck is their problem? this has to be illegal

[Anonymous No.14590289]

>>14590025
I wanna see more astronauts shooting each other. Although it's also the most ridiculous aspect of the show, fighting over a tiny patch of the moon when there's only like 10 people on it, surely the Russians could have found another area to mine. But I guess it was part of their political games or something

[Anonymous No.14590290]

>>14590273
I put my finger in my butthole one time and that was enough of that.

[Anonymous No.14590294]

>>14590273
I’m 20 and I feel like an old man. I’m still in Uni and time passing has me sad. Going to my home town is depressing; all those good memories are in the past now. And yet, I’m only 20.

[Anonymous No.14590301]

So how long would it take for a colony revolt to occur? It took 150 years for the American colonies to revolt.

[Anonymous No.14590304]

>>14590301
countries didnt seem to hold onto their new world holdings for very long...a few centuries at best...but governments back then were pretty brutal compared to now

[Anonymous No.14590305]

>>14590273
Directionless

[Anonymous No.14590309]

>>14590304
That’s why I think a colony revolt will take a while.
What I’m curious about, though, is what the first armed conflict in space will be?

[Anonymous No.14590314]

>>14590236
propellant (is stored in the balls) cross-seed capability too

[Anonymous No.14590316]

>>14590309
we'll probably find out within the next few decades

[Anonymous No.14590323]

>>14590294
I'm only a few years ahead of you (26) but I vividly remember the hollow feeling when I learned that there was nothing to go back to at home anymore. Harder still was the realization a few years later that I'd shed most all of my friends from childhood and college and was now ~alone.
All good though, eventually found a gf, a job I enjoy, and a way to spend idle time that doesn't invoke anxiety.
Happier than then but still occasionally miss the feeling of being 18

[Anonymous No.14590340]

>>14590323
Yeah it’s an odd time. It’s honestly sort of a “childhood’s end.” You realize that everything from your childhood was fleeting. I still see some friends from high school and it’s just not the same.
It’s a weird transition into become an adult. Not quite a boy, not quite a man. College life is fun but summers away make it awful.
I’m a lot younger than you but I’m glad to have found a great girl to call my gf but honestly, what happens if I have to move across the country (again) to continue my career/post-college? Do I leave her? Am I willing to give up my dream of space to be happy with her? I don’t know.

We’re all gonna make it /sfg/

[Anonymous No.14590344]

>>14590250
That's pretty fucking cool. Imagine strapping yourself to a fairing half and riding it down as it breaks apart in the upper atmosphere. Given Falcon 9 launch prices, you could have like half a dozen people strapped on per half and have it come out cheaper than New Shepherd.

[Anonymous No.14590350]

>Vivian lists her reason for the name change as ... "Gender Identity and the fact that I no longer live with or wish to be related to my biological father in any way, shape or form."
Muskbros..

[Anonymous No.14590354]

>>14590350
Thank you for your comment

[Anonymous No.14590357]

>>14590289
It would have to be for politics, because in a situation as harsh and marginal as early space colonization there would be no other reason insane enough to fight one-another for. Even if colonization radically picks up in the very near future, it will probably be at least a century or more afterward that there will even be the vaguest need to consider portioning resources between multiple large colony outposts, and at that point it will probably still be vastly more economical to move elsewhere than to start a fight over what resources an airless or near-airless rock like the moon or Mars could provide.
On both there's ice aplenty for thousands of generations of humans and at some point far before that time more will be coming in from Saturn or perhaps an artificially frozen Venus.
Minerals will be abundant in asteroids and I think it more likely that efficient candle or torch drives will be invented before resource constraints drive independent Mars or Moon colonies to war with each-other over mining.
Expansion will be limited by the difficulty and high initial investment of starting a colony, so it's unlikely that there will be disputes over borders when colonies will probably be planned and discussed many years if not decades in advance of their founding.

Thus, the only thing retarded enough to drive people to fight will be polshit.

[Anonymous No.14590365]

>>14590357
The series’ justification for moon fighting is pretty good actually. Like it makes a lot of sense.
What would a current-tech space warship look like? Definitely not rocinante, but still curious?

[Anonymous No.14590370]

>>14590365
>What would a current-tech space warship look like?
It would need the ability to forcibly dock with and seize enemy satellites/spacecraft and downmass them, a large crew for boarding actions, and a shitload of cross-range to get home from random intercept maneuvers.

[Anonymous No.14590374]

>>14590365
>What would a current-tech space warship look like?
The autist behind Children of a Dead Earth laid out a compelling vision. The tl;dr is: Nuclear thermal is king because it has enough thrust for orbital combat maneuvers and enough ISP for endurance. Everything is shaped like a cone. Lasers, rockets, and conventional guns will all be used. Human presence will be still be essential for power projection due to light lag and AI will not be able to handle strategic planning.
https://childrenofadeadearth.wordpress.com/

[Anonymous No.14590376]

>>14590370
I wonder what justification for near future total war in space exists that doesn’t include countries on earth nuking each other to hell or starting WWIII

[Anonymous No.14590379]

>>14590376
Nothing, because the US has so much observability. If anyone else starts blowing up our space assets we'll nuke first.

[Anonymous No.14590381]

>>14590365
Probably some kind of oversized ICBM with a pulsed fiber laser in the 500kW-1+MW range, large solar collectors and radiators. We don't even have the regulatory flexibility to send up a warship with a significantly powerful atomic reactor so weaponry is going to be extremely limited. Missiles are very heavy considering they're expendable, chemical propellant guns are extremely wasteful too and introduce the difficulty of recoil management, so what you're left with is relatively anemic laser weapons.
Primary focusing optic sizes are going to be limited by cost and weight, I doubt you'd see diameters greater than 1m and probably significantly less, so the functional range would probably only be several tens of km.
RCS will be a combination of large reaction wheels and MPD thrusters with a larger bank of primary MPDs to drive significant changes in orbital altitude and inclination, power and reaction mass will still be at a premium so this "warship" will still be more of a space station with maneuver capabilities than a true "ship".
If something like HDLT or similar candle drive tier magnetoplasma rockets are invented AND regulations allow for sufficiently large (MW+) nuclear reactors then we could start to see manned space warships that can perform interplanetary patrols, make significant maneuvers, and carry a more robust array of weaponry. As of right this second though the extreme limits of mass, drive inefficiency, and power generation pretty severely curtail what could reasonably be deployed using strictly modern technology.

I'm crossing my fingers that the Chinese just go "Fuck it, we're launching a large nuclear reactor into space now." At that point all bets are off and we can finally start to see nuclear-electric drives and much larger ships, they'll still be shit at fast moving pre-torch drives, but at least it's better than coasting cans.

[Anonymous No.14590382]

>>14590381
Oh yeah woops pic related.

[Anonymous No.14590384]

>>14590374
>Nuclear thermal is king because it has enough thrust for orbital combat maneuvers and enough ISP for endurance.
nuclear pulse outclasses it in both categories by far

[Anonymous No.14590386]

>>14590384
Nuclear pulse requires ludicrous amounts of fissile material. If you can run pulsed solid NTP on LH2 or water you get most of the benefit for a LOT less U235.

[Anonymous No.14590388]

>>14590374
CoaDE is neat but I’m curious about the world building. The tech is near future - even current - but there are colonies all across the solar system that are large enough to wage war

[Anonymous No.14590389]

Dun dun dunnnn what's that sound

it's nuclear salt water roggets

[Anonymous No.14590394]

>>14590389
>Tank is punctured
>Ship explodes
What now?

[Anonymous No.14590398]

>>14590394
How's that different from any other rocket? If your tank is punctured you're fucked from loss of fuel pressure, and if you don't have a way to patch it mid course before you run short of propellant budget you are on a one way cruise to nowhere.

[Anonymous No.14590404]

>>14590394
You would solve this by not actually having your fuel be so close to critical that simply being released out of it's tank will cause it to fission. If I'm not mistaken the reaction chamber of an NSWR is strongly neutron reflective, so the only way the fuel can actually be tipped over the edge into criticality is to be within that chamber, if it's simply dispersed into space it can no longer fission to any significant degree.
You could also use an even less enriched fuel and have a neutron source shine into the reaction chamber to push the fuel to criticality, meaning that even if fuel leaks into the chamber it still can't fission without a positive command given to start the drive.
On top of that most of your NSWR's wet propulsion mass will be reaction mass, not fuel, you can bury your fuel tanks deep inside nested tanks of reaction mass, minimizing the risk that they'll be punctured unless the whole ship is catastrophically damaged.

[Anonymous No.14590408]

>>14590398
Shut up don’t ruin my fantasy of warships engaging in CQC and blowing holes in each other over the skies of Titan
Seriously though, NSWR seems so finicky, even when it works great. Fusion - if we ever get it - seems easier to handle.
Also just have a bunch of tanks and vent them when punctured

[Anonymous No.14590409]

niggers tongue my anus and jannies prune my comments

[Anonymous No.14590411]

>>14590388
We don't need any future tech to colonize the solar system. We've had the requisite technologies for over 50 years. Out of autistry, I'm with you about wanting to know more about the timeline that led our expansion into space.

[Anonymous No.14590412]

>>14590408
>Fusion - if we ever get it - seems easier to handle.
Someone proposed a D-6Li fusion powered NSWR for even more YEET. You could literally do a full grand tour of all the planets from Mercury to Saturn and back to LEO in under a year.

[Anonymous No.14590420]

Rate my world building
>United Federation
UN/America expy. Contains Earth (center), Mercury, orbital stations around Venus, Ceres, Vesta, and Europa

>Ares Pact
USSR expy. Contains Mars, some asteroids in the asteroid belt, and eventually attempts to invade Ganymede and Callisto

>Republic of Titan
China expy. Contains the Saturn system. #1 provider of Helium-3 in the solar system.

>Jovian Moons
Middle East expy. Tried to win independence several times but ended up damn near glassed to extinction and eventually exploited by all three of the superpowers.

In the “present day”
>Cold War between the Federation and the Ares Pact. The Pact invades Ganymede so the Federation sends soldiers to rally the local resistance.
>30 Years later, the Resistance would eventually revolt against the Federation, too

Thought all this shit out while on my lunch break lol

[Anonymous No.14590424]

>>14590411
I checked the website and basically
>WW3 in the present day
>Nuclear winter
>Humanity establishes colonies in a hurry
>200 years pass
>Earth is a Venus-like hellscape
>1.7 billion people live spread across the solar system
Neat idea but it’s a bit jarring that the tech is almost “frozen.”

[Anonymous No.14590442]

>>14590412
With 90% enriched fuel you can (supposedly) get 480,000s ISP from a NSWR. Shit's insane.

[Anonymous No.14590444]

>>14590442
>>14590412
If you want Interplanetary travel that takes days and weeks, you’re gonna need this stuff

[Anonymous No.14590446]

>>14590444
>If you want Interplanetary travel that takes days and weeks, you’re gonna need this stuff
Imagine how fucking much cargo you could put on an Earth-to-Mars free return trajectory with one.

[Anonymous No.14590447]

>>14590028
There will ve episodes that focus on lesbia s amd gay people, balck people, strong women etc
It got pretty tiresome at times
Even the newest episodes touched upon affirmative action kind of

[Anonymous No.14590448]

space force / nro custom starlinks discovered
https://twitter.com/cgbassa/status/1539044005564100609

[Anonymous No.14590453]

>>14590043
As much of a faggot bezos is, I hope they get at least some version flying
Even if they are years behind, at meast they should continue improving and prevent the complete monopolization by spacex

[Anonymous No.14590456]

>>14590448
>Custom Starlinks
?

[Anonymous No.14590463]

>>14590456
they're either starlinks or use starlink as a satellite bus

[Anonymous No.14590465]

>>14590456
Starlink frame repurposed for military usage.

[Anonymous No.14590469]

>>14590448
>>14590456
>>14590463
>>14590465
SpaceX won that missile tracker contract didn't they? So thats probably that. They were using Starlink and replacing the sensor suits with a third party sensor suit.

[Anonymous No.14590471]

>>14590444
Something like HDLT can give you all the inner planets within weeks and the outer planets in no more than a few months, granted they aren't as powerful as torch drives but they're much less volatile and require only reactor grade fuel for a powerplant instead of weapons grade material.

[Anonymous No.14590475]

>>14590463
>>14590465
Does this mean funding is secured for Starlink?

[Anonymous No.14590482]

>>14590025
A focus on realistic space combat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmFb-4KVG4M

[Anonymous No.14590489]

starlink is like unlocking cheat codes. countries fighting against the usa in a space war are fucked.

[Anonymous No.14590494]

To add onto the Interplanetary warfare discussion, it’s interesting to note different eras in Interplanetary colonization and travel.
There’s “The Expanse” on one end and “The Martian” on the other, but what about in between? Like imagine a scenario where humans have colonized the inner solar system but the outer planets are too far at the moment. Maybe humanity has VASMIR or HDLT but fusion drives are still a pipe dream. Maybe the outer planets have small settlements more akin to the Wild West or something.

Although “Ad Astra” was a mediocre movie, the world it created was neat. Humanity had only colonized Mars 30 years before the start of the movie, and had yet to colonize further aside from a oneshot mission to Neptune. Also, interplanetary travel was still very dangerous and novel.

[Anonymous No.14590496]

>>14590475
No. Thats for the handful of custom starlink only.

[Anonymous No.14590498]

>>14590494
There's Firefly/Serenity. There's Cowboy Bebop. They're all stuck inside solar system and takes ages to get from one end to another.

[Anonymous No.14590500]

What’s the deal with VASMIR? Why does Zubrin think it’s a scam?

[Anonymous No.14590511]

>>14590494
I'd imagine it will be something like the northermost reaches of Alaska, or polar research outposts. Small settlements of a few dozen or maybe few hundred people, probably with larger stockpiles by necessity but fundamentally much more isolated than any remote Earthly settlement.
These people are likely to be hardy and stoic, obsessive about safety and self-sufficiency because travel times of weeks still prohibit any help from reaching them in a reasonable amount of time.
Most of them will have originally hailed from Earth or be the very first generation of people born in space which will give them a unique outlook on life completely novel to the rest of us.

[Anonymous No.14590513]

yeah it's probably these https://spacenews.com/spacex-l3harris-win-space-development-agency-contracts-to-build-missile-warning-satellites/

spacex got funding for 4 custom starlinks that will be used to monitor missile launches on earth

[Anonymous No.14590521]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Joshuajered/status/1538919060926349312

The troon child has gone off the rails completely i guess, i hope it doesnt take too much attention away

[Anonymous No.14590522]

>>14590192
The mission will launch a performance verification satellite (PVSAT) in addition to four Cubesats:
- CubeSat (6U) STEP Cube Lab-II
- CubeSat (3U) SNUGLITE-II
- CubeSat (3U) MIMAN
- CubeSat (3U) RANDEV

[Anonymous No.14590528]

>>14590192
>>14590522
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuri_(rocket)

[Anonymous No.14590530]

>>14590513
$149 million is a lot of money, wow

[Anonymous No.14590531]

>>14590513
i just remembered, this is the first "layer" of the multi-layer constellation that they want to build. included in the final layer are deep space interceptor satellites that monitor cis-lunar space traffic. i heard they may have been canceled but they were a long term project anyway so they're bound to turn up again eventually.

[Anonymous No.14590532]

>>14590513
>>14590531
Literally Ace Combat
How long until they use them to direct a superweapon?

[Anonymous No.14590541]

>>14590532
Military are probably thinking about a potential modified Starship with laser missile defense system

[Anonymous No.14590549]

Clear is live... Launch in 53 minutes?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K5WrT-hQQ8

[Anonymous No.14590550]

https://austinvernon.site/blog/starshipsuperweapon.html

[Anonymous No.14590551]

reminder best korea has been launching shit into space for 20 years

[Anonymous No.14590554]

>>14590549
i introduced clear to lots of my coworkers. most responded with "?" and "ok?" but a couple came up to me after work to thank me for showing her to them. i think she has new fans for life

[Anonymous No.14590555]

>>14590550

[Anonymous No.14590559]

>>14590554
do any of them actually speak wappanese?

news stream, live shots:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKtauy9s0bk

[Anonymous No.14590568]

>>14590494
>Like imagine a scenario where humans have colonized the inner solar system but the outer planets are too far at the moment.
Planetes. The first big expedition to Jupiter is still in the future.
>>14590498
>There's Firefly/Serenity.
Firefly/Serenity takes place in a solar system so large as to strain astronomical credulity with six suns, dozens of planets, hundreds of moons, and magic terraforming machines that can even adjust the surface gravity for people.

[Anonymous No.14590570]

>>14590500
VASIMR manages to combine all the bad parts of fusion engines, magnetoplasmadynamic thrusters, and electrothermal thrusters, while requiring a 40MW reactor and hundreds of kilograms of LN2-cooled superconductors to be useful.

Oh, and in "high thrust" mode it tops out at about 40N.

[Anonymous No.14590604]

Looks like South Korea's made it through MECO, second stage burn should be in progress

[Anonymous No.14590611]

The Internet is fucked also a Korean rocket just launched. More news at 11

[Anonymous No.14590614]

South Korea can into space

[Anonymous No.14590627]

>>14590611
the streams were all shit so I missed it while cooming instead

[Anonymous No.14590633]

>>14590611
/sfg/ actually died rip

[Anonymous No.14590640]

>>14589543
12 hours of physical labor is my max, but if I'm just sitting down thinking really hard or waiting on bullshit then I can go for 16 if I get a few fiifteen minute breaks

[Anonymous No.14590654]

>>14590420
which one is most technological

[Anonymous No.14590664]

>>14590365
>The series’ justification for moon fighting is pretty good actually. Like it makes a lot of sense.
What's the reason? Never going to watch it, so I don't know about it

[Anonymous No.14590666]

Uh... zeusbros?
https://www.space.com/jupiter-ate-baby-planets-while-growing

[Anonymous No.14590674]

>>14590409
here's an image for you

[Anonymous No.14590688]

>>14590666

[Anonymous No.14590723]

>>14590666
Early solar system must've been so cool. I'd love to see all the planets and celestial bodies that once populated it, such as Theia, or that other 5th inner planet that got flung out during Jupiter/Saturn's migration

[Anonymous No.14590779]

>>14590568
Battlestar Galactica reboot had the coolest astronomical setting; 12 habitable worlds around quadruple stars

[Anonymous No.14590885]

Apparently some space junk flew above my house the past night. I didn't get to see it, pic is from twitter. The local newspaper says it's an CZ-2F upper stage from the Shenzhou 14 launch.

My retarded authorities are claiming it is totally safe... LMAO it's 5 tons of chink junk, there is no way it all burns down completely, and being a chink rocket it is probably a random reentry.

UPDATE: Gizmodo claims some parts fell down in the sea south of the Balear islands.

[Anonymous No.14590894]

Nice comparison of Vega rockets

[Anonymous No.14590927]

Why is Starship still not flying? Didn't Elon say a year ago they would do a first flight summer last year?

[Anonymous No.14590930]

[Anonymous No.14590949]

>>14590927
Government requirements. They legally can't launch until they finish the 75 or however many things the FAA asked them to do. That is why we are seeing concrete and blast covers and shit being rolled out

[Anonymous No.14590964]

>>14590927
He did and many on /sfg/ were convinced it would launch in August last year. Pretty unlikely it even launches by August this year

[Anonymous No.14590967]

>>14590927
Because it's not ready to fly.

[Anonymous No.14590969]

>>14590927
Depends on if government wants Starship to launch or not. We're still waiting for FAA license. A year ago we thought FAA would give them a launch license but now a year later, still nothing. SpaceX has to jump many hoops

[Anonymous No.14590988]

>>14590949
>They legally can't launch until they finish the 75 or however many things the FAA asked them to do
What the fuck is this shit? The FAA is a fucking joke.

[Anonymous No.14590991]

>>14590988
>>14590969
>>14590967
>>14590964
>>14590949
literally all the same person

[Anonymous No.14590994]

>>14590991
meds

[Anonymous No.14590998]

>>14590498
I love the aesthetic of Cowboy Bebop. Everything is modern day technology except for space travel, people still use todays guns, even on spacecraft, normal buildings and cars are on every planet and moon, and computers have a cool retro feel to them like when they physically print out receipts every time they go to a jump gate

[Anonymous No.14591003]

>>14588051
So how about geothermal?

[Anonymous No.14591013]

>>14591003
gay and dilute just like soilar

[Anonymous No.14591019]

>>14591013
>no opinion
based

[Anonymous No.14591028]

>>14591019
> women ever being more based than men
lol no

[Anonymous No.14591059]

>>14591028
sad little incel

[Anonymous No.14591198]

https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Aerospace-Defense/South-Korea-succeeds-in-2nd-home-developed-space-rocket-attempt
we come for you musk

[Anonymous No.14591200]

>starlinks have lasers
>they get upgraded to be more powerful
>use them to shoot down rockets, missiles, and other satellites

[Anonymous No.14591209]

>>14591200
I've been saying it for a while, but the lasers need to be more powerful. Something along the 10-20kw laser atleast, then on top of that it would require larger solar panels and larger batteries to support those operations. Or it could use lasers to send power to other laser starlink systems, like a daisy chain starlink space laser powers, for which it can use those extra combined powers as a powerful laser. Still needs larger heatsinks/radiators to control the thermals within safe range.

[Anonymous No.14591216]

>>14591209
never post again

[Anonymous No.14591218]

>>14591200
>>14591209
how fuckin dumb are you?

[Anonymous No.14591229]

HAPPENING

[Anonymous No.14591235]

>>14591229
is there a live stream

[Anonymous No.14591242]

>>14591235
Members only.

[Anonymous No.14591253]

>>14591242
We need competition. Like real bad.

[Anonymous No.14591258]

> Media Briefing: Artemis I Wet Dress Rehearsal
https://youtu.be/C_Ku7BnP6hs

[Anonymous No.14591259]

>>14591253
no, you need to get a life

[Anonymous No.14591277]

>>14591276
>>14591276
New thread