/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.14580649]

ITT: /sci/ things that were just memory-holed after being touted as world-ending catastrophes, and zoomers probably haven't even heard of:

- The hole in the ozone layer
- Acid rain
- Nuclear Winter
- Y2K
- Various oil spillages that will take "centuries" to clear (they're already clear)
- Stem Cell research being a contentious matter.

What else am I missing?

[Anonymous No.14580710]

>>14580649
The hole in the ozone actually has closed up thanks to a coordinated global effort to ban the use of CFCs, the propellant chemical once used in air conditioners and spray cans.

Acid rain is still very much a thing it just hasnt changed much since the 1800s so not exactly news.
Nuclear winter is moot as we've averted the realistic threat of nuclear war, y2k was always just a meme, and the oil spills still have fucked the ecosystems but again its just continually fucked and not news.

Stem cell research was never contentious, the debate was about using embryonic stem cells from aborted fetuses which afaik is still banned, stem cell research has actually made huge progress in certain things like healing burns but is ofc not the miraculous panacea it was represented as by liberals.

[Anonymous No.14580722]

>>14580649
People that lie about doomsday stuff deserve to be shifted to those timelines.

[Anonymous No.14580741]

>>14580649
>- The hole in the ozone layer
it is there, but global ban of CFCs managed to limit the size to Antarctica and sometimes Southern Australia as it's kinda swirling vortex that gets bigger and smaller with weather
still, 2 in 3 Australians get diagnosed with some kind of melanoma
>- Acid rain
desulfurization of oil, home heating with coal getting rare and and mandatory flue gas scrubbers solved it for the most part
- Nuclear Winter
at this point, it would be good at offsetting global warming for a while, I suppose
>- Y2K
right, that one got solved entirely
>- Various oil spillages that will take "centuries" to clear (they're already clear)
people underestimated the effects of relatively rare bacteria (that are now considerably less rare)
still, a huge financial loss in spoiled fish and such every time it happens
>- Stem Cell research being a contentious matter.
the boomers either died off or moved on to ramble about other schizo bullshit

[I Voted NO lol No.14580744]

>>14580649
>- The hole in the ozone layer
fixed by man
>- Acid rain
partially fixed by man
>- Nuclear Winter
still possible
>- Y2K
happened, but big bad avoided as fixed by man
>- Various oil spillages that will take "centuries" to clear (they're already clear)
effects still felt but partially fixed by man

whats your problemo chuderino?
>- Stem Cell research being a contentious matter.

[Anonymous No.14580759]

>>14580710
>>14580741
OP thoroughly BTFO.
i love when schizos coming in here thinking they got you in checkmate, get eviscerated in under 10 posts, and mysteriously disappear.

[Anonymous No.14580828]

Wasn't nuclear winter based on the idea of every nuke being a groundburst and every city being as flammable as Hiroshima/Nagasaki or was that a myth? I know the idea used to get mocked on /k/ but I haven't bothered to look further

[Anonymous No.14580915]

>>14580828
Yes it's a huge meme, like climate change and acid rain, century long oil spills, and the ozone layer. Basically don't trust scientists.

[Anonymous No.14580930]

>>14580915
Lol you're still owned and trying to do damage control

[Anonymous No.14580949]

>>14580915
>get BTFO by multiple posters
>"umm im still right :)"

[Anonymous No.14580951]

>>14580828

[Anonymous No.14580958]

>>14580930
why does it make you chimp out to see others discussing science, you're not adding anything to the discussion, you're just screeching angrily at others for doing do.
if this thread bothers you so much just hide it. do you know how to use the hide thread button?

[Anonymous No.14580993]

>>14580930
>>14580949
I'm not OP

[Anonymous No.14581003]

>>14580759
>Make up problem
>Retarded predictions don't come true
>"ummm actually it just went away"
Nice one shill

[Anonymous No.14581013]

>>14580710
My ex girlfriend's sister works on stem cells that are created by reverting expressed cells back to stem cells. So that has been possible for a while now.
They're extremely useful for foundational research in biology, but it's not like you eat them and regenerate half an arm as some people seemed suggesting back then.

[Anonymous No.14581059]

>>14581013
>My ex girlfriend's sister
pix or you're lying

[Anonymous No.14581118]

>>14581003
>"s-shill!"
the cry of someone desperately out of options

[Anonymous No.14581125]

>>14580958
>dismissively calling things memes is discussing science
how about you hide the thread and let the adults talk?

[Anonymous No.14581130]

>>14581118
You ignored the greentext


>>14581125
>and let the adults talk?
Kek you're the newfag in the other thread telling others to go to reddit for liking anime aren't you?

[Anonymous No.14581158]

>>14581130
>get told hard, seething about reddit and anime out of nowhere
kek

[Anonymous No.14581174]

>>14580649
>Nuclear winter
It is say that the dessert of sahara was created due nuclear wars between "aliens". All that is narrated in the bhagavad gita.
I Don't know... It seems plausible, it was all green and then out of nowhere... a fucking dessert.
Nuclear winter it's at best an hypothesis, at worst, just another play by the kikes

[Anonymous No.14581191]

>>14580741
>2 in 3 Australians get diagnosed with some kind of melanoma
No fucking shit?
You put pale-as-ghost Brits in the desert and that's what you get.
The idea that it's because of the anything else is ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.14581199]

>>14580649
OP is a fucking moron. You see this happen all the time
>Problem emerges
>People raise awareness of the problem
>Other people tell them to fuck off
>Concerned people keep pushing, eventually problem reaches a resolution through taking major steps to actually correct the problem
>Years later the fact that the problem was solved and catastrophe prevented is used to argue the problem wasn't actually a problem

>The hole in the ozone layer
Global movement to ban CFCs

>Acid rain
Mainly caused by sulphur in gasoline. Fuel regulations reduced this dramatically

>Nuclear winter
buddy the nukes haven't gone anywhere

>Y2K
solved by screaming at everyone to patch their systems

>oil spills
these get memory holed in the media but are still ongoing. usually oil companies just stall litigation for decades. there are lawsuits related to oil spills from the 70s and 80s still ongoing. oil cos just eternally sandbag until people forget. gulf ecosystems still fucked from deepwater horizon

>stem cell
people spent decades research cell signaling and now we can make stem cells from somatic cells, removing the whole fetus issue

[Anonymous No.14581257]

>>14581158
Why are you ignoring the contents of my posts? Why do you refuse to lurk three years?

[Anonymous No.14581268]

>>14581013
>it's not like you eat them and regenerate half an arm as some people seemed suggesting back then.
Fuck you, nigger, I'm cloning my own Shakey's Pizza and there's nothing you can do to stop me!

[Anonymous No.14581276]

Although OP's original plan backfired, I think there are 2 things we can extract/discuss from this thread:
1. A few months ago I was wondering the same thing about the ozone layer, thinking "what happened to it anyway? Did it get fixed, is it still getting destroyed... why is no one talking about it?". When I was a kid it was almost as if it was gonna end humanity if we didn't do something about it, that's the perception I remember having during my classes. In fact, global warming was a big deal back then, but not as much as the ozone layer. Now, I think it's great that the CFC ban fixed the issue, but if that's the case, why didn't the media AT ANY POINT SINCE THEN mention it? Are they really just interested in making money out of controversies? Not only that, but if the ozone layer problem was so easily fixed, why isn't the media using that as evidence that we can tackle climate change if we want to?

That leads me to the second point:
2. If all it took was a ban on CFCs, why is it so hard to find a solution to climate change? Yes I know some of the things you're gonna say: the oil industry buying politicians, lobbying, the issue getting mixed with the left-right conflict as if it was a concern only for one group... BUT my main point is that the nature of the general problem is the same: Scientists point out a problem that could harm the world in a meaningful way, and the solution requires some people to stop making money from the cause of the problem (in this case, CFCs). So, how did it succeed? Was the CFC industry so minuscule that they couldn't buy enough politicians? Or was is just because there were alternatives that got the job done as well as CFCs, so trading one for another wasn't such a hassle for the companies involved? [1/2]

[Anonymous No.14581277]

>>14581276
In fact, an interesting question just occurred to me: If the alternative to CFCs was 10 or even 100 times more expensive for the companies that used CFCs in their products, do you think we would still be debating whether or not CFCs were actually responsible for the hole in the ozone layer? I'm really inclined to believe that, unfortunately. [2/2]

[Anonymous No.14581284]

>>14581276
Solutions are never hard to find.

[Anonymous No.14581289]

>>14581276
China is still polluting with CFCs and there's nothing the rest of the world can do about it.

[Anonymous No.14581296]

>>14580710
Absolutely based.

[Anonymous No.14581304]

>>14580710
>>14580741
>>14580759
>>14580930
>>14580949
>>14581199
>>14581276
>>14581296
Samefag

Don't post an edited image to this it's pointless

[Anonymous No.14581366]

>>14581276
It was never broken you retard

[Anonymous No.14581400]

>>14580649
>nuclear winter
Go on the /k/ archives and see what the tripfag Oppenheimer said about it (spoiler: it's a meme based on faulty research). He's a bona fide nuclear scientist who quit posting after getting doxxed.

[Anonymous No.14581616]

>>14581276
The only people who stopped doing cfcs is the west

[Anonymous No.14581631]

>>14581276
Because the solution to one problem isn't the solution to entire thing? You think banning it will fix all pollution?

[Anonymous No.14581647]

in my opinion most of these make sense, and they haven't tried to cover much of it up anyway

[Anonymous No.14581683]

>>14581191
It's even worse in Israel

[Anonymous No.14581817]

>>14580649
>What else am I missing?
Peak oil

[Anonymous No.14582190]

>>14581276
CFCs didn't stop making anyone money, DuPont just switched from R12 to R134 which was 1400x worse than CO2 for global warming but better for the ozone layer, then switched to 1234YF when people started talking about climate change more. 1234YF doesn't put holes in the ozone layer or reflect heat as much as CO2, but it does degrade and hang around in drinking water lmao
https://www.openaccessgovernment.org/hfo-refrigerants/112698/
CuSEXde

[Anonymous No.14582199]

>>14581817
>Economics
>>>/x/
>>>/lgbt/

[Anonymous No.14582216]

>>14580828
Nuclear winter is based on fires so huge ash blocks out a significant amount of sunlight. Seeing houses have filled with plastics since it was first proposed I imagine it would still happen.
What a lot of people don't understand about it is it only lasts a couple of years and long term there is even more global warming as the particulate falls out and a fuckload of CO2 was released by the fires.

[Anonymous No.14582774]

>>14580649
>- The hole in the ozone layer
Barely began to close as the result.
>- Acid rain
A century long problem that nobody used to understand where it came from.
>- Nuclear Winter
There never was a war. Von Neumann bullshited governments that nuclear weapons need to be detonated high in the air.
>- Y2K
Actual scam.

[Anonymous No.14582789]

>>14581683
That's because God hates you. Not UV.

[Anonymous No.14582802]

>>14581276
1. Yes, the modern media simply makes the world a worse place
2. Because no one wants a solution. See various countries currently shutting down their nuclear programs. 70% of emissions are from corporations not individuals.

[Anonymous No.14582806]

>>14580930
Its not damage control. All of these meme catastrophes were hyped to be the end of the world, now you are backing out like hehe i never said it was serious

[Anonymous No.14582810]

>>14582789
White people in the tropics get melanoma
>Australia
>Tropics
Its a sunny hellhole so it counts

[Anonymous No.14582898]

Hole in ozone still a thing no one cares about it because its shrinking
Acid rain is a thing just not so much an issue in America as it was. Coal was the main cause
Y2k was fixed before it caused any issues for most things
Oil spillage taking centuries to clean up is a meme. You can clean up most of it pretty quickly
Stem cell stopped being a thing because of roe v wade and they had bigger fish to fry.

[Anonymous No.14582927]

>>14580710
>>14580741
Kek the ozone layer hole just periodically goes up and down in size. Has likely always been there and have little to do with human activity. People in science just like to shill its supposed importance

[Anonymous No.14582940]

>>14580710
CFCs are around more than ever in China and India. It was just never a big deal. OP is right at this point "science" needs to die.

[Anonymous No.14582948]

>>14580649
Covid

[Anonymous No.14582960]

>>14582940
Totally wrong.

[Anonymous No.14582962]

>>14582960
>implying any legit numbers come out of China

[Anonymous No.14582971]

>>14582927
>Kek the ozone layer hole just periodically goes up and down in size. Has likely always been there and have little to do with human activity.
This is like saying your weight periodically goes up and down, therefore obesity has little to do with your diet and activity. The main cause of ozone depletion is human emissions.

[Anonymous No.14582979]

>>14582962
So you actually have no clue what the ODS numbers are and how just making shit up. Also, due to the ban CFCs are only a small portion of ODS at this point.

[Anonymous No.14584304]

>>14580649
Bump