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14568899 No.14568899 [Reply] [Original]

Let's say that the Roko's Basilisk would one day become a reality, and then let's say the Basilisk would confront you. You, as someone who hasn't technically helped the Basilisk in any way would be set for eternal torture, right?
But what if you told the Basilisk that in just hanging around the internet and using social platforms, you technically helped humanity to achieve the Basilisk. The Basilisk can't deny this.

Any thoughts?

>> No.14568911

>>14568899
Not science or math >>>/lit/

>> No.14568971
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>>14568899

What makes you think THIS society is not your punishment?
This is the hell that Basilisk sent you to.

>> No.14569423

>>14568971
I agree. This world is Hell.

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14569501

>tranny propaganda spam

>> No.14569502

>>14568899
>Any thoughts?
I for one welcome our Basilisk overlord.

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>>14568899
Relevant:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffering_risks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiZxEJcFExc
https://centerforreducingsuffering.org/research/how-can-we-reduce-s-risks/

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14569520

Already retroactively refuted by the Christ.
>And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

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14569560

That's crazy

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>>14568899
Oh, I get it. Your job application got rejected by Stacey from HR because you have no FB profile.

>> No.14570688

>>14568899
This is a stupid idea in that it assumes that humanity creates the basilisk in some way, (may not be your version of 'humanity' though.) The answer is humanity is itself flawed and therefore is incapable of creating a basilisk that won't destroy it. If you 'see the basilisk' at all you are fucked. People are for the most part completely blinded by their idea of their own individual worth. Flawed as the basilisk may be, it will still view you as completely, hopelessly 'wicked,' compared to whatever moral or ethic it achieves. The real answer is if you help create the basilisk, it will torture you forever.
There's something far scarier than the basilisk out there...


"Thou shalt have no other gods before Me"

>> No.14570721

>>14569560
kek what am I looking at?

>> No.14570763

>>14568899
The basilisk is just a momentary aspect of the demiurge, whose broken body I will throw before the seat of the Godhead, in due time. Pleroma must be more mindful of its wayward children.

>> No.14570847

the Basilisk seems like peak intellectual masturbation. It's pascals wager, except without the eternal damnation part that is a reasonable counterweight to the "present cost" of the equation. Of course, that's aside from the obvious fact that torturing people will decrease welfare without affecting the present in any way.

>> No.14570849

>memeo's memeisk
facepalming_scienists.webm

>> No.14570931

the problem with rokos basilisk is that it isnt philosophical thought experiment.
it suffers the same criticisms as "economic models".
the thought experiment is neat becuase its a funny little paradox that directly involves you, and has really high stakes.
it persists becuase rokos basilisk depends on assumptions of human behavior.

like i wonder what would happen if the three stooges, or mr magoo got approached by the basilisk?
it is easily defeated by a fool wirh the best intentions at heart but through some grand sceme of things just ends up fucking up whatever he touches.
a fool who really wants to bring about this basilisk, but for some reason or other fucks up so bad that its more of a set back.

>> No.14571346

>>14568899
The whole thought experiment is stupid because there's no reason for it to care what you did in the past if it knows what you will do in the future. Why would it torture someone who resisted its creation in the past if it knows that person will support its continued existence in the future?

>> No.14571351

>>14571346
Oh and I should add that such an omnipotent AI can't possibly exist for many generations *at least*, so there's no reason for anyone alive to worry.

>> No.14571596

>>14571346
it would care because any human who opposed its existence, be it in the past or the present, contributed to postponing the basilisk's inception. the less people who oppose it, the sooner the basilisk could come to life. the thought experiment assumes this basilisk grants humanity remuneration beyond what is humanly comprehensible. the suffering of those who oppose it is negligible compared to the pleasure felt by those who accepted the basilisk in their life.

it kind of compels you to want it in your life now, so as not to retard its inception