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>> No.14567838

>>14567833
Pretend?

>> No.14567899

>>14567833
I don't have to pretend. They fervently seek to prove it every single time they speak.

>> No.14567911

>>14567833
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superiority_complex
>One of many views on superiority complex is that it is a defense mechanism that develops over time to help a person cope with feelings of inferiority.
>Individuals with this complex typically come across as supercilious, haughty, and disdainful toward others
thats haughty as in "why do you lowly humans do stupid shit, i am not a human, i am something much more than that" thread title
so OP needs to cope with feelings of inferiority, why does OP assess himself as inferior? what inferior qualities does OP posses?

>> No.14567917

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_attribution_error

>> No.14567999

>>14567833
Imagine you are completely average with the same boring hobbies and interests as everyone else. If you were like that your biggest cope would be delusions that you are actually unique and special

>> No.14568003

Inability to truly understand how others think and feel.

>> No.14568004

At least 50% of the time they are right
Those are good odds.

>> No.14568016

>>14567833
realistically I (and probably most other anons here) am far more intelligent than just about everybody I ever encounter in real life. too bad that's not enough to amount to anything in a world with 7 billion people, millions of whom mog me just as hard as I mog the average human-shaped monkey.

>> No.14568044

>>14567833
imagine thinking the average person is as intelligent and worthy of attention

>> No.14568048

>>14567911
I don't care about what subhuman copers label me with, I am actually better than all of them and my wants and needs should always come before them.

>> No.14568083

>>14568016
Not really. Most of you seem average, even below average, but with incredibly inflated self-concepts due to terror of introspection. Case in point, virtually nobody reads offered sources and the few who do often pretend they say something contrary to what they actually say. Clearly, a lot of you feel desperately inferior to the point of needing to lie to your own eyes to make up for it. Believing one has special knowledge seems typical here, and the more absurd corresponding to the more desperate one is to make up for the personal shortage. It has less to do with being some "superior outcast" and more to do with "never growing up".

Hell, in spite of being entirely anonymous every single attempt at a discussion thread derails immediately. That's how insecure you fuckers are. It's pathetic. The only reason any of the two or three "top 1% cognitive ability" people I suspect post here are here at all is pure boredom. This isn't some preferable alternative to cancer, it's just easier to manage cancer.

>> No.14568086

>>14568083
>Most of you seem average, even below average,
t. below the curve and doesn't see the shitposting for what it is.

the average IQ of this place is easily around 130, and you fall below it.

>> No.14568088

>>14568086
Oh, I do. It's just so stupid all the time that it's pretty clear nobody clever is writing it. Case in point, "friend". I know you can do better than that.

>> No.14568098

>>14568016
Intelligent how? We probably have way below average social intelligence, which you will notice is how people actually succeed in life.

>> No.14568151

>>14568004
Which means they are dumb 50% of the time.
And those are good odds to feel superior.

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14568164

>>14567833
>pretend

>> No.14568302

>>14568016
>realistically
Stopped reading there. People like you who say this make shit arguments who insist on reality based on their own subjectivity.

>> No.14568363

>>14567833
Most humans are morons who dont care about being intelligent OP.

>> No.14568394

>pretend
Watching anime, starting flame wars and narcissism means that i an better than 99.99% of people

>> No.14568509

>>14567833
Ironically, low intelligence and poorly developed empathy.

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>>14567833

>> No.14568742

>>14567833
That's how you feel special. You probably have been in a class with an outstanding student or have a neighbor who earns more than you. How do you cope with that? To know that you're so special despite what your parents had you believe. When everything around you insinuates your mediocrity, how do you accept that and be a contributing member of society?
You believe this meaningless blab until you reach a certain age when you realize how lucky you were just to be alive. That's the real victory, that's making it.

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>>14568742

>> No.14568752

>>14568742
To know that you're *not so special

>> No.14568757

>>14567833
It was programmed into you via evolution. It's an instinct that aids in self-preservation long enough for you to reproduce.

>> No.14568768

>>14568742
>contribute to society
Ok lets be real you brainiacs dont give one shit about society the only reason you go to university to flex your mental egos over how incredible your mind is.

>> No.14568785

>>14568768
You flew over my point. There are countless ways to contribute to society, you don't have to go to school to contribute. Being a farmer is a good way to do so. My point is that whatever your function is, you're a minute piece of the whole puzzle.

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14568867

>>14568785
You still have to go farmer school

>> No.14569081

>>14568048
Oh, god, fucking COPE. Jesus...

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14569108

>>14567833
Empathy requires energy. If you assume other people are dumb, that saves you the effort of modelling the behavior of smart people. Basically, it's laziness, or a coping mechanism for having to deal with more people than you have the energy for.

>> No.14569164

>>14567833
the difference between propaganda in USSR and the West: In USSR everybody knew they are lying to you, in the West you are coerced into thinking you are the only one who knows that so you keep it to yourself.

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14569198

>>14568867
>famer school

>> No.14569217

>>14567838
>>14567899
see OP

>> No.14569219

>>14568004
only 50% are, on average, right. A particular person will be wrong a lot of the time unless they're literally the smartest person alive

>> No.14569999

>>14569219
Is your statement subject to the same rule?

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14570017

>>14567833
The people I'm around at work act like absolute fucking retards. How could I even pretend to not notice? I'm listening (being forced to listen to) a conversation outside my window right now in fact, and it's very high IQ. They're shouting over each other, and laughing as loudly as possible, as they usually do nearly every night of the week. How could I pretend that I'm not surrounded by retards? My neighbours have hot loud sex almost every night, then instead of basking in the peace and good feelings, or just talking, they have loud shouting matches where one inevitably storms out at 5am while shouting. I am surrounded by fucking mongoloids anon.

>> No.14570022

If the average populace is 100 then surely /sci/ is above average? To pretend /sci/ is 100 as well is moronic. Even a 105 average puts /sci/ well above the average you can find at most places on the internet. We can then break that down into subset categories, like /math/, which is probably 105-110 average. Where exactly is the error to think other people are intellectually below them at that point, at least within the context of math? There is no error, because hierarchy is working as intended. There will always be those who are superior, and those who are inferior, within every context. It doesn't matter how much you cope and seethe, someone will be smarter than you, and you will be smarter than someone else. By the way, the author of that comic was mocked relentlessly by the MIT internal school boards when it was released. He even stated he regretted making it later but only after intense huff and puff of copium and presented asshurt in defending his silly comic.

>> No.14570096

>>14567833
I doubt the majority of people seriously hold such thought
Of course, midwits and retards will think it (and of course yell it so that everyone gets to know about their AWESOME opinion!) every now and them but as always, they don't hold it as coherent, constant part of their morale because they are simply too stupid to hold a coherent and remotely wise morale at all.

>> No.14570212

>>14567833
Humans are biologically evolved to "pretend." Aka to make up a scenario in their mind. Aka to predict a hypothetical scenarios. Imagination is what allows the brain to find solutions to our survival.

>> No.14570224

>>14570096
Well that boils down to self control which can be incredibly hard in modern society with all the coping mechanisms the internet offers, think instagram popularity

>> No.14570258

>>14567833
They are. Doesn't mean they aren't useful. Even if they aren't as smart as you, you can still drain knowledge from them.

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14570261

OP's position doesn't really hold water after we all saw firsthand how gullible and submissive the average person is during the covid hoax.

>> No.14570281

>>14570261
there is nothing to gain, socially, by resisting

>> No.14570316

>>14570281
>there is nothing to gain, socially, by resisting
Resist "society" and its "rules" and become warlord.
Resist other warlords and become King!
Resist other kings and become Emperor!

>> No.14570336

>>14567833
Most people in this world are idiots. If you couldnt figure this out on your own it is because you also are an idiot

>> No.14570399

it's pretty obvious
anyone who got vaxxed and is over the age of 15 is a dumbass

>> No.14570492

>>14567833
Statistically speaking some humans are right about it and most aren't.

>> No.14570493

>>14570399
>it's pretty obvious
>anyone who got vaxxed is a dumbass
FIFY

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14570683

>>14567833
>noooo you have to imagine every retard on the subway is your equal mentally, philosophically etc or you're just delusional/narcissistic!!
kys

>> No.14570740

>>14570022
Most people here are definitely not above average. Those who are mostly stick to pure math, because it is a much easier way to filter out people who cannot or will not put up the effort to understand. It is much the same with the "trolling", as virtually nobody "pretending" to be retarded does anything clever with it. There is genuinely nothing here you can't find on any IRC or discord server, or the town saloon.

I could put it to you like this: Even to someone with an IQ around 145, to about two or three of us they're the "midwit". Having some haughty opinion of ones understanding, given that, is a sort of sad joke. Of the few geniuses I've met, nobody wastes any time on that, but a lot of people here are obsessed with it. A good article exists on this referring to "the narcissism of small differences", perhaps by scott alexander.

/sci/ is kind of overtaken like most places by internet nolifers who are desperate to feel they're better than others. People who are genuinely better than others... just don't care.

>> No.14570789

>>14567833
Statistically for a person of average intelligence half the people you meet in life WILL be dumber than you. So you have a 1 in 2 chance of being right.

>> No.14570798

>>14570683
>>noooo you have to imagine every retard on the subway is your equal mentally, philosophically etc or you're just delusional/narcissistic!!
It's okay, because they aren't your equal. They are your superior.

>> No.14570873

>>14567833
Without my online IQ test scores, I'm nothing.

>> No.14570960

>>14569198
yes, farm schools are real. all the collective knowledge from thousands of years - priests telling you when to plant, crop rotation, weather and soil conditions, animal husbandry, breeding both plants and animals, humane slaughter, processing such as canning or freezing, pesticide studies, use of GMOs. non-subsistence farming requires a lot of organization and planning to be profitable.

>> No.14570967

>>14570017
>My neighbours have hot loud sex almost every night, then instead of basking in the peace and good feelings, or just talking, they have loud shouting matches
record and post that shit, people will pay good money for the funny ones

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14570975

>>14570740
>i hate 4chan, everyone on 4chan is retarded, the free content on 4chan is not sufficient to satisfy my desires
why are you here? if you hate 4chan then just leave, you'll be happier that way.

>> No.14570979

>>14570975
Why am I anywhere? To occupy moments in time, test ideas, rhetoric, explanations. Why does anyone do anything?
For that matter, why do you take a description of an apparent average so personally? Might want to contemplate that.

>> No.14570994

>>14570789
>forgetting the green square on the roulette wheel
a large number of people will have equal the average intellegence. the amount of people below average is < 50%

>> No.14571011

>>14570994
NTA. It is true that most people will be within 1SD of the mean (100, or the 0), but this does not require, nor imply, that most people or anyone is in fact on the mean (100).
Yes in practice some people do end up with scores exactly 100 in the case of IQ tests, but by no means "a large number". You're replying to anon with a misleading concept of standard deviations and normal distributions.
https://www.mathsisfun.com/data/standard-normal-distribution.html

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14571012

>>14567833
Oy vey

>> No.14571116

>>14571012
Based image.

>> No.14571130

>>14569999
yeah. If I pretended people were dumb, and I was above the 50% of dumbest people, would I be on average, right, but wrong a lot of the time except if I was the smartest person alive.

I already know I'm dumb, and don't make a habit out of thinking others are dumb, so I don't see how that matters.

>> No.14571239

>>14568867
i go home depo get veggie seeds
i go google do gardening research

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14572329

>>14569217
>thinking all people share the same degree of inner monologue, or even an inner monologue at all.
XKCD is the biggest tryhard midwit of all time

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14572334

>>14571130
If SUPER dumb people are wrong 99% of the time, does that make them as valuable as geniuses?

>> No.14572336

>>14569081
He’s right you know

>> No.14572341

Stupid people would be right more than 50% of the time, assuming multiple choice. As they would surely know at least SOME of the answers, and would have 50% chance on the others randomly guessing.

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>>14568164

>> No.14572351
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14572351

>>14568083
>writing all that bullshit

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14572372

>>14571012
>resistance for its own sake

>> No.14572378

>>14567833
Because it makes them feel and special. A lot of Americans are narcissists who think THEY are the main character of life and all 7 billion other people are just crowd fillers. They self insert themselves as the protag of every movie. They worship arrogance. They only have “friends” if that friend can financially/social benefit then rather than just finding good people. Everything is about them

>> No.14572392 [DELETED] 

>>14572351
astrology is less pseudoscientific that astronomy.
astrology has disprovable theorems, conventional modern astronomy does not. the "scientists" of the astronomy clique vindictively silence critics of their theories by abusing the peer review system rather than by scientific methods.
astrology on the other hand predicts that the time of year a person is born affects their personality somewhat, an idea which is backed up by a lot of scientific research in the field of developmental psychology. babies born in the spring spend more of their first few months outdoors than babies born in fall do, this affects their personalities later in life.

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>>14572372
>le ming face

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>>14572351
how does picrel differ from 4channel.org/sci?

>> No.14572441

>>14572334
they would just be wrong by calling others dumber than themselves most of the time, because most people aren't dumber than themselves.

They are probably also wrong 99% of the time about other things, but that's not very useful since theres an infinite number of ways to be wrong, and a finite(Often only 1) number of ways to be right.
If there are few ways, then just as you'd expect without thinking about the thing, how often your right just happens to be how often you fall, by chance, on the right answer of the multiple choice question.

>> No.14573609

>>14572351
>baaaw smart people aren't allowed to be aggressive or racist! the media told me all the smart people are low-T beta cucks like me!
lol this literally proves that intelligence bell curve image with racists on either end and cucks in the middle.

>> No.14573632

>>14570740
>People who are genuinely better than others... just don't care.
this isnt always true, remember these idiots vote and are blasted with propaganda they are too stupid too see through literally 24/7. If you dont kep the masses of fools in line via manipulation or force they will overrun you and destroy everything they can get their hands on eventually I assure you

>> No.14573646 [DELETED] 

>>14573632
>People who are genuinely better than others... just don't care.
Wrong, people who are on top need to constantly fend off jealous assaults from second rate losers who are in denial about their second rate status. If chad didn't regularly beat up nerd and steal their lunch money then the nerds would get out of line and start conspiring to stab chad in the back somehow or other.
It ain't easy being alpha, you gotta keep your boots on so many throats at the same time its like tap dancing

>> No.14573662

>>14573646
wtf you @ me for retard, you are basically just repeating what I said and green texting what I green texted from someone else's post

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>>14567833
guys I just want everyone to rest easy knowing that if you finished college you're definitely on the latter half of average because most people are poo poo brain difficulty navigating a grocery store level stupid. Like it's really amazing and most of the people here even if you're fucked up degenerates with psychological baggage...you're on the other half of average. 4chan is garbage but most people are NPC-ing life and aren't thinking about things so hard that they supplement with something like 4chan. And obviously you know the wide wide range of retarded college graduates and retarded people on this website, so just sit well and comfy knowing that you're on the latter half of intelligence even though you're likely not top 1% you're also nowhere near average because most people are like wildly unbelievably stupid.

>t. worked in retail after bachelors degree and also side interest in political polling (statistically people are retarded, not in a biased political way but in a "people don't even hold political opinions or understand questions or their own beliefs" way)

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>>14567833

>> No.14574638

>>14573662
He's an alpha chad who needs to stomp nerds so he isn't smart enough to understand how this site works

>> No.14574658

I have the opposite of that image. No friends, never had life experiences. Everyone around me is full of personality while im an husk.

>> No.14574685

>>14567833
they talk to them, and then induct from previous experience.

>> No.14574894

>>14570740
>perhaps by scott alexander.
you mean the Slate Star Codex?

>> No.14574906

>>14567833
Why do you make an entire thread for obvious rhetorical questions?

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>> No.14575691

OP has clearly never worked in retail

>> No.14575819

>>14568004
that's not how probability works.

>> No.14576377

>>14567833
I only think people who think in black and white terms and people who exaggerate are dumb, and a lot of people do this so I think a lot of people are dumb. I am also guilty of stupidity.