/sfg/ - Spaceflight General

[Anonymous No.14567536]

previous >>14565299

[Anonymous No.14567542]

Remaining launches this month:

Rocket Lab - Electron: Mahia Peninsula, New Zealand. CAPSTONE to lunar halo orbit, for NASA.
SpaceX - Falcon 9: LC-39A, Florida. Starlink 4-19.
SpaceX - Falcon 9: SLC-4E, California. SARah 1, synthetic aperture radar for German military.
ESA - Ariane 5: French Guiana. Two communications satellites for Malaysia and India.
ISRO - SSLV: Sriharikota, India. Small Satellite Launch Vehicle's first orbital test flight.
Astra - Rocket 3.3: SLC-46, Florida. TROPICS 3 + 4. NASA CubeSat constellation, flight attempt #2.
SpaceX - Falcon 9: LC-39A, Florida. CRS 25 resupply to the ISS, Cargo Dragon.
SpaceX - Falcon 9: SLC-40, Florida. SES 22 communications satellite for US television and data service.
ULA - Atlas 5: SLC-41, Florida. USSF 12, experimental missile warning satellite for the Space Force.

FAA due to complete Boca Chica Starbase licensing today, June 13.

[Anonymous No.14567543]

>>14567536
We are going

[Anonymous No.14567551]

>>14567542
thanks anon

[Anonymous No.14567555]

Sealed valley colony Chads dunking on tunnel cucks and soi domes

[Anonymous No.14567557]

>>14567542
and Starship launch on June 14

[Anonymous No.14567561]

>>14567555
What the hell are those names?

[Anonymous No.14567577]

>>14567555
>Detroit

[Anonymous No.14567590]

>>14567555
mars is going to be at war eventually. putting everyone living under a single dome is going to fuck them hard when the enemy bombs it. diversify and harden your infrastructure.

[Anonymous No.14567596]

>>14567590
By the time Mars is at war that won't be an issue.

[Anonymous No.14567599]

Just finished binge-watching For All Mankind, what did I think about it

[Anonymous No.14567615]

>>14567555
>Shoots wall
>Huge lake fucking bubbles and evaporates
>Millions killed

[Anonymous No.14567623]

>>14567561
Progress!

[Anonymous No.14567624]

>>14567615
>Shoots wall
>Air pisses out so slowly that it takes hours for pressure sensors to even notice
Stop letting /tv/ rot your brain.
>>14567599
Stop letting /tv/ rot your brain.

[Anonymous No.14567626]

>>14567599
>1 episode a week
im out

[Anonymous No.14567667]

>>14567542
There is supposed to be a South Korean launch between 15th and 23rd of June.

KARI - Nuri (KSLV-II): Naro LC-2, Goheung County, South Korea. Flight test of KSLV-II.

[Anonymous No.14567694]

>>14567542
>FAA due to complete Boca Chica Starbase licensing today, June 13.
fingers crossed, no more delays please

[Anonymous No.14567702]

Mark my words. FAA and will it to wednesday

[Anonymous No.14567704]

FAA will approve starship with haste

[Anonymous No.14567708]

>>14567599
spinning was a bad trick

[Anonymous No.14567729]

when are they getting pipelines directly to boca chica? there are too many trucks needed for this shit.

[Anonymous No.14567733]

>>14567729
Not so fast, muskrat.
https://twitter.com/ESGhound/status/1535680248053899264
>Just a reminder that Starship Super Heavy is 20% more powerful today than what is represented as the basis for environmental impact by SpaceX. They've had 9 months to address this discrepancy and yet... have not done so

[Anonymous No.14567734]

>>14567729
First they need to get a FONSO or a mitigated FONSI. Then later on, they can upgrade it.

[Anonymous No.14567736]

>>14567729
239 tankers to fill the thing. i can't even imagine them doing 10 a day so that's like a whole month of deliveries.

[Anonymous No.14567738]

>>14567733
>They've had 9 months to address this discrepancy and yet... have not done so
IT OCCURED TO HIM IN A DREAM
he astral projected into the FAA computer to read the final pea

[Anonymous No.14567739]

>>14567736
i've worked on sites where they get about a dozen trucks a day. even though it felt kind of hectic there, it's definitely too slow for something like this.

[Anonymous No.14567740]

>>14567738
I'd be careful about Astral projecting. It's only got a 20% success rate.

[Anonymous No.14567743]

>>14567736
It only takes ~1 hour to load/unload the fuel. With 6+ fueling depots, you can easily have couple dozen per day. Easily. Lets say each depot can take 1 tanker every 2 hours. Delivery drivers only operate 12 hours a day. Thats 6 deliveries x 6 depot. 36 easily. Thats <7 days.

[Anonymous No.14567747]

>>14567733
Reminder:
ESGhound, Eric Roesch, is a Jewish Tesla shorter paid off by oil giants.

[Anonymous No.14567749]

What happened yesterday, /Sanctified Shitposting General/?

[Anonymous No.14567753]

fellow invertibrates

[Anonymous No.14567754]

>>14567747
On the payroll of doesn't mean paid off by.

[Anonymous No.14567756]

>>14567754
He is paid off to bullshit out FONSI reviews for oil giants as an “environmental reviewer” while having no talent for actual engineering. A typical lying juden.

[Anonymous No.14567759]

>>14567754
Literally what it means.

[Anonymous No.14567760]

>>14567754
A professional bullshitter is what he is. Especially since he's getting paid to troll one company so another company that's adjacent could potentially fall in stock market.

[Anonymous No.14567761]

>>14567756
>A typical lying juden
You're using that word grammatically incorrectly cringe pol tourist.

[Anonymous No.14567766]

>>14567761
Oops, my mistake, redditor.

[Anonymous No.14567768]

>>14567761
Do not complain if you understood my communique. Language exists to carry connotation, perhaps you nitpick because you failed to point out a flaw in my description of an inherent shyster population. In any case, Musk will win and shills will lose: cope sneed and dial-8.

[Anonymous No.14567769]

statische zundung wann

[Anonymous No.14567773]

>>14567769
At the earliest: 30 hours.

[Anonymous No.14567777]

>>14567769
bald ist es zeit

[Anonymous No.14567781]

MAN
Shit sure is rough...
Well, up next FAAggots Yes or no to Elon/Starship

[Anonymous No.14567794]

Astra

[Anonymous No.14567796]

>>14567794
dont care

[Anonymous No.14567798]

>>14567794
2/10 is a really bad statistics

[Anonymous No.14567802]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLLTouNZdog

[Anonymous No.14567810]

so two more weeks or mitigated fonsi?

[Anonymous No.14567819]

>>14567798
2/8 if you don't count intentionally ground-bound vehicles, but yeah, it's not looking great.

[Anonymous No.14567822]

>>14567810
Birds told me it's FONSI.

[Anonymous No.14567836]

>>14567794
Mmmm roggets
NASA like big rogget, cost plus contracts for everyone!

[Anonymous No.14567854]

>>14567761
>pol tourist.
You are the only tourist here faggot

[Anonymous No.14567858]

>>14567854
you're seething. another day ruined by the juden

[Anonymous No.14567859]

>>14567798
What are some other rockets with similar statistics?

[Anonymous No.14567863]

>>14567859
SLS
No flights, several failures.

[Anonymous No.14567876]

>>14567859
Starship ironically

[Anonymous No.14567904]

>>14567859
Falcon 1

[Anonymous No.14567920]

>>14567859
SS and N1 unironically

[Anonymous No.14567929]

>>14567859
anything I build in ksp

[Anonymous No.14567936]

The only way we are getting to Mars is if we play some video game set on Mars.

[Anonymous No.14567942]

>dump eet

[Anonymous No.14567952]

redpill me on rocket engine horsepower ratings, is it better than measuring rocket engines in thrust?

[Anonymous No.14567958]

>>14567555
It might make more sense to run the high speed rail outside the pressure bubble. That way you’d get to operate it in the near vacuum of raw Martian atmosphere- the air drag would be greatly reduced so your train would only need to really fight wheel drag (and with the cold temps of Mars you might be able to run high temp superconductor levitation in just the ambient air, or with a very cheap refrigerant). With a Martian maglev it would be possible to make a very fast train without much electricity draw (accelerate at constant 1g, then at the halfway point decelerate at 1g). The magnetic rails could absorb the energy from the deceleration much like regenerative braking works in cars. I think Mars is like an easy mode hyper loop.

[Anonymous No.14567963]

>>14567958
What about sandstorms? Aren't they common on Mars?

[Anonymous No.14567965]

>>14567952
Thrust should be measured in tons. Tons is nice because it’s very close in metric (tonnes) and standard (tons). Also, you can tell how much engines can lift. A 10 ton engine can lift a 10 ton rocket and it will have a 1.0 power/weight ratio. If you use stupid units like Newton’s or horsepower you have to do a ton of unit conversions to make it comprehensible.

[Anonymous No.14567968]

>>14567952
The only part you can reasonably measure the horsepower in is the turbopumps, and as important as those are, they don't tell you anything about how much thrust the engine has, what its specific impulse is, or what its weight is, and those are the only things that really matter for performance.

[Anonymous No.14567969]

>>14567963
Storms are mars are pretty weak. The atmosphere is so thin that even a really bad Martian storm with winds >>100 mph, wouldn’t kill you.

[Anonymous No.14567971]

>>14567963
Nothingburger besides grit getting inside of stuff

[Anonymous No.14567983]

>>14567969
OH N-

[Anonymous No.14567984]

>>14567794
D-DELETE THIS!!!

[Anonymous No.14567985]

>>14567542
>4 spacex launches in two weeks
hot damn

[Anonymous No.14567986]

trying to watch season 3 of for all mankind but wtf
>space hotels with spinning gravity in 1992
how did they even build something like this in a few years? the show gets more unrealistic with every season.

[Anonymous No.14567988]

>>14567542
>V8RNA

[Anonymous No.14568002]

>>14567794
brutal

[Anonymous No.14568007]

>>14567794
Next stop, penny stock.

[Anonymous No.14568008]

>>14567794
why do they keep fucking it up, anons?

[Anonymous No.14568019]

>>14567986
fusion

[Anonymous No.14568021]

>>14568008
God hates fags

[Anonymous No.14568025]

>>14568008
Too much cost cutting

[Anonymous No.14568037]

>>14567986
>space hotels with spinning gravity in 2001

[Anonymous No.14568087]

>>14567542
>still no F heavy lunches

[Anonymous No.14568093]

>>14568087
Starship is falcon heavy. Well, a beeg falcon rogget.

[Anonymous No.14568096]

environmental assessment completion when

[Anonymous No.14568102]

>>14567555
At large enough scales, the technology requirements for tented valleys, domes, and tunnel habitats all converge. Tented valleys and domes of sufficient scale require enormous underground engineering work to anchor their canopy layers. Very large tunnel habitats require reinforcement of the ceiling against tension forces (ie, they need canopy layers). A dome of sufficient internal area becomes easier and less resource intensive to build as a flatter, tether-supported structure than a true rim-bonded hemispherical dome.
What I'm getting at here is that as Mars continues to grow in population and industrial capacity, they'll be building domes AND tented valleys AND tunnel system habitats, all over the place, all at once. They'll simply use whatever solution makes sense for pioneering that area of land from native Mars conditions to an existing habitat system, and then as time goes on they'll continue to build more robustness and redundancy into their habitats (for example, by building domed cities that could handle being exposed to Mars atmospheric pressures, then coming back later and building a massive tent structure over the entire region and enclosing several of these cities with a habitable volume pressurized 80% as much as the dome habitats but still very comfortable to live inside.
Related point to make, domes and tented structures are easier to make if you use the bubble in a bubble approach, where your dome canopy consists of tens of layers of membranes with a smaller pressure differential between each layer. So outside is 6 Pa, the outermost membrane contains 8000 Pa absolute, the layer inside of that contains 16,000 Pa absolute, and after 13 layers the innermost membrane contains a volume that is at 101 kPa (sea level Earth pressure). This makes the canopy much more robust overall because you can make each layer carry just 10% of its engineered tensile strength, so even if several layers are pierced the canopy doesn't catastrophically fail.

[Anonymous No.14568109]

>>14567963
They're dust storms not sand, and if they're using maglev there's not much contact between the trains and the rails anyway.

[Anonymous No.14568111]

>>14567542
>FAA due to complete Boca Chica Starbase licensing today, June 13.
Oh fuck, that's today.

[Anonymous No.14568113]

>>14567986
>how did they even build something like this in a few years?
I haven't watched the show but with reusable rockets and a competent space engineering industrial focus this would not be difficult to achieve.

[Anonymous No.14568116]

>>14568096
2 hours

[Anonymous No.14568119]

>>14568116
I have been granted insider info:
They say it will take 2 more weeks.

[Anonymous No.14568125]

>>14568096
2 more weeks

[Anonymous No.14568128]

>>14567971
That's what I was getting at but if it's maglev, >>14568109 might be correct that it wouldn't be a big deal in that situation.

[Anonymous No.14568143]

>FAA decision? Astra failure? What are you talking about? We've got a borehole to dig

[Anonymous No.14568162]

>>14568128
Also trains run on Earth and we have legit dust storms and shit here, yes it erodes the rails slowly but that's a replace-every-century tier problem. In fact even with constant dust storms, the fact that Mars has less gravity (lower wheel pressure) and no oxygen (no rail rusting) means that rail should last significantly longer on Mars than on Earth.

[Anonymous No.14568166]

>>14568143
MAN
WITH
SHOVEL

[Anonymous No.14568170]

>>14567794
Early Proton tier

[Anonymous No.14568179]

>>14568162
>that's a replace-every-century tier problem
I was going to say you're wrong but then I remembered that most of the rails on the suburban rail line I ride on a few times each week have manufacturing marks from the 30's and 40's. It's all welded together now and on concrete sleepers but it's still the same 80 year old steel rail.

[Anonymous No.14568192]

>>14568162
This is interesting actually. Would structures on Mars experience significant wear and tear? Rust and other material degradation doesn't occur because of no oxygen/moisture. Possibly by UV rays? Is wind erosion a significant factor, because >>14567969?

[Anonymous No.14568193]

>>14568179
Yup, and of course whatever we build on Mars won't be using wooden sleepers. In fact it's possible that Mars rail could use steel sleepers along with the steel rail, simply because concrete mixtures are gonna be much closer to steel anyway in terms of relative difficulty of production on other worlds. Building on Mars if going to be interesting because of the lack of an oxidizing atmosphere, which makes direct use of naked mild steel in all outdoor applications just as long lasting as if it were stainless steel. One issue I can see being a problem is cold welding of the steel rails to steel wheels, as there won't be an oxide layer on either component after some wear has occurred. It may be necessary to use coatings of some kind to avoid this issue.

[Anonymous No.14568200]

https://www.reuters.com/technology/spacex-faces-nasa-hurdle-starship-backup-launch-pad-2022-06-13/

[Anonymous No.14568203]

>>14568200

[Anonymous No.14568206]

>>14568203

[Anonymous No.14568207]

>>14568206

[Anonymous No.14568208]

>>14568192
UV doesn't really affect anything other than complex organic molecules (ie plastics, many paints), so structures like a steel truss bridge or whatever would be subject to extremely little environmental wear. They would still experience wear through use, but the lack of corrosion will also reduce the impact of use-based wear, too. For example, sometimes old vehicle bridges on Earth have their structural steel beams crack, because corrosion pitting causes stress concentrations that allow the repeated vibrations and loading/unloading cycles on the bridge to exceed the fatigue limit in that point of the structure. On Mars there's no corrosion to cause pitting that leads to stress concentrations, and of course every material has 266% the strength to weight ratio compared to Earth due to the lower gravity, while all vehicles weigh 3/8ths as much for the same mass, reducing the effective stress put on these structures by a factor of about 7 (ie, an Earth rail bridge built on Mars running the same mass of train would have 7x the engineered safety margin compared to that exact construction on Earth).

[Anonymous No.14568212]

>>14568192
>Is wind erosion a significant factor
Probably not on any timescales shorter than thousands of years, which means the need for refurb work due to actually using the structure is going to dominate.

[Anonymous No.14568213]

>Starlink onboard the Freedom Of the Sea cruise ship!

[Anonymous No.14568214]

>>14568200
>>14568203
>>14568206
>>14568207
based filenames

[Anonymous No.14568215]

>>14568213

[Anonymous No.14568220]

>>14568206
>the problem is the explosive potential for (methalox) is not well known
??? Bullshit. It's the simplest hydrocarbon plus oxygen.

[Anonymous No.14568221]

>>14568214
lol, I guess I could make some better default one on greenshot, the default is all kinds of random information I don't want on screenshots

[Anonymous No.14568230]

>>14568193
If it's not maglev, perhaps rubber tires can be used. It's not an uncommon use case here on Earth though I don't know if rubber will withstand the temperatures on Mars very well. Going to guess this wouldn't be an option for high speed rail.

[Anonymous No.14568238]

>>14568213
>>14568215
tell me its a joke

[Anonymous No.14568241]

>>14568230
Steel wheels on steel rails will work, we really don't need to use exotic materials. At the very worst, we would need to use two dissimilar metals which don't mutually stick to one another, ie steel rails and titanium wheels.

[Anonymous No.14568254]

>>14567794
>past rocket was exact same configuration and it succeeded.

Roggetry doesn't make sense to me

[Anonymous No.14568257]

>>14568254
ses is harrah

[Anonymous No.14568259]

>>14568241
i don't think mars' atmosphere is cold enough for vacuum welding

[Anonymous No.14568261]

while we're waiting on the FAA...what happens if spacex gets the approval?

[Anonymous No.14568263]

>>14568238
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_jqf1DzZgE
>Royal Caribbean's Freedom of the Seas has been chosen to test out the new mobile Starlink connection at sea! Starlink is finally here!

nope

https://www.pcmag.com/news/spacex-working-to-bring-starlink-to-royal-caribbean-cruise-ships
https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2022/06/10/royal-caribbean-wants-add-elon-musks-starlink-high-speed-internet-its-cruise-ships

[Anonymous No.14568265]

>>14568254
They didn't make the appropriate devotions before the machine spirit nor did they burn the correct ceremonial incense while fueling the rocket. This made the machine spirit angry.

[Anonymous No.14568267]

>>14568261
there will be a lot of whining and crying

[Anonymous No.14568268]

>>14568263
you think there would be a better solution than buy x number of dishes

[Anonymous No.14568269]

>>14568267
time to get snacks

[Anonymous No.14568271]

>>14568261
Prepare for the alien site shills to start countershilling with bitter FUD statements. The usual

[Anonymous No.14568275]

>>14568263
from the first article
>Starlink is also set to arrive on at least a few airliners, including Hawaiian Airlines. However, rival satellite operators, including Dish Network and Viasat, have filed complaints with the FCC over concerns that roving Starlink access will interfere with their own satellite networks. This week, Dish sent a letter to the FCC, demanding that it crack down on the unauthorized use of Starlink dishes on moving vehicles until full clearance has been approved.

[Anonymous No.14568279]

>>14568263
the second article gives insight on what kind of shit they are working with now

[Anonymous No.14568280]

>>14568275
>crack down on the unauthorized use of Starlink dishes on moving vehicles
>until full clearance has been approved.
That's not how shit fucking works.

[Anonymous No.14568281]

>>14568275
>Royal Carribean
>the same line that cucked them
What did Ol Musky mean by this?

[Anonymous No.14568285]

>russia's military couldn't knock starlink offline
every other satellite internet company is about to lose their lunch. obviously the government/military doesnt want a monopoly though so they might find ways of helping another provider or two stay afloat.

[Anonymous No.14568287]

> muh trains
how about something that can go up or down steep slopes without crapping out?

[Anonymous No.14568289]

>>14568285
>find other ways
They'll just pay them to continue existing.

[Anonymous No.14568291]

>>14568275
>However, rival satellite operators, including Dish Network and Viasat, have filed complaints with the FCC over concerns that roving Starlink access will interfere with their own satellite networks.
>concerns
Someone needs to tell Dish and Viasat that the real world works on evidence and facts, not 'concerns'. Unless they have solid evidence that Starlink transmissions on moving vehicles are interfering with their own networks, they should be told quite sternly to fuck off. In fact they should be fined for throwing up deliberate obstacles to free trade in the form of obvious bullshit.

[Anonymous No.14568295]

>>14568285
>>14568289
As much as we laugh at Amazon, Kuiper will also be leaps and bounds ahead of existing satellite internet technologies. There you go, that's your monopoly problem solved. RIP in peace, oldspace internet.

[Anonymous No.14568304]

>>14568287
The gayest mode of travel aside from the segway.

[Anonymous No.14568306]

>>14568280
Getting one of their staff attorneys to write up a protest costs them almost nothing. Since there's no penalty for protests that are turned down, why not use them to hurt your competition, even if only a little? Businesses in all kinds of industries do this to each other, and often small players to squash them before they can grow.

[Anonymous No.14568308]

>>14568295
still waiting on that...

[Anonymous No.14568311]

>>14568287
not this gay shit again

[Anonymous No.14568313]

>>14568308
Didn't you hear? Amazon bought up practically every single non-SpaceX commercial launch for the next FIVE years so that they can get the first Kuiper shell launched on schedule. They're so desperate to make this thing work that they just sold the entire commercial launch market to SpaceX and any other company that can get a functioning medium-lift rocket flying in the next few years.

It's kind of a good thing because I didn't see any feasible way for Terran R or hobbitlab Neutron to get their foot in the door previously.

[Anonymous No.14568314]

>>14568304
>For freight trains, gradients should be as gentle as possible, preferably below 1.5%.
even bumping that figure up for low gravity its gayer than cable cars
>>14568311
seething

[Anonymous No.14568316]

>>14568275
>Viasat

[Anonymous No.14568321]

>>14568314
You don't even know how much that figure can be bumped up. You just like gay cable cars. Come back when you figure out what grade is possible on Mars with rail before making claims of cable cars being better.

[Anonymous No.14568328]

>>14568321
Gradient would be lower on Mars because of less grip. Trains would be more efficient, but require shallower inclines.
Cable cars are still a joke though.

[Anonymous No.14568330]

any minute now...

[Anonymous No.14568332]

Threadly challenge:

(you) have accidentally made several billion dollars off of crypto and are now in a position to start your own newspace company.

What product do you make? Where do you fit into the market? Who do you hire? Where do you build your facilities?

[Anonymous No.14568335]

>>14568332
make a habitat that can be used on earth/moon/mars, so i can collect $$$ from all 3 places

[Anonymous No.14568338]

>>14568308
lmao

I was down at the cape for a launch last year and it struck me there are no billboards on the island but there sure is a giant building with twenty foot tall "Blue Origin" lettering right next to KSC

The Tesla charger in the KSC parking lot was a nice touch

[Anonymous No.14568339]

>>14568321
if we treble it its still 4.5% gradients which is pathetic.
meanwhile:
>Achieving a maximum gradient exceeding 159%, the new cable car system will transport up to 800 passengers per hour and can carry up to 2.5 tonnes of cargo as underload in regular operation.
https://www.mynewsdesk.com/schilthorn/pressreleases/stechelberg-muerren-worlds-steepest-aerial-cableway-3055495

[Anonymous No.14568345]

>>14568259
Buddy, temperature is not an important factor. The reason cold welding is a potential issue is because when you have friction between metal surfaces without atmospheric oxygen to re-form exterior oxide layers, you end up having bare metal to metal contact, which allows electrons to be shared throughout the metal components, which is literally how metal welding works. "Cold welding" is just what we call it when metals start sticking together without application of heat or energy, it's not that two cold pieces of metal will just weld for whatever reason.
In the case of Mars rail systems, cold welding would be a problem if it started happening, because the tiny spots of cold contact welding between the rails and the wheels would lead to rapid surface roughening as the welds were continually formed and then ripped apart again. However, if you use two metals which do not have mutual affinity, like steel and titanium, the rate of cold welding will be much lower. Other options for eliminating cold welding could be to use ceramic wheels, though you'd need a VERY tough ceramic in order to pull that off, and very wide rails to offer a large enough weight bearing surface.

[Anonymous No.14568348]

>>14568332
>several billion dollars
That's loads. The total dev cost of Starship is several billion dollars. So probably build something similar and create a duopoly.

[Anonymous No.14568355]

>we have an established autist
>the cable fag

[Anonymous No.14568356]

>>14568254
t. probability don't real

[Anonymous No.14568359]

>>14568332
I wouldn't. I'd probably try to buy a huge chunk of Air Liquide and expand their range.

[Anonymous No.14568360]

>>14568287
Never happening. Dragline excavators however, now that's a technology well suited to early industries on other worlds where massive hydraulic pistons are almost impossible to build but steel wire ropes and chains are a diamond dozen

[Anonymous No.14568373]

>>14568345
Or you could just build a maglev system so that there's zero points of contact.

[Anonymous No.14568385]

>>14568328
>Gradient would be lower on Mars because of less grip.
It's equal. There's less grip force because there's less weight force, and therefore the grip to weight ratio stays exactly the same. This is true if you do not make design considerations to increase grip. For example, here on Earth several rail lines exist that use a rack and pinion system to climb steep sections, where the weight is still borne on the wheels but the propulsion comes from a series of gears engaging a ground-mounted rack gear the length of the steep section of track.
That being said, the northern hemisphere of Mars is very flat and perfect for rail networks, and on Mars railroad bridges are easy to build, so you can extend rail networks into the rugged southern hemisphere reasonably enough. Even the volcanos of the Tharsis region on Mars don't require much consideration to access by rail, since they're shield volcanos with a maximum grade of around 5%. If we can build rail through Japan we can build rail on Mars, where the environment is less corrosive, doesn't have life shitting up the place, is less rugged, and doesn't have significant weather of any kind other than mild wind force sometimes.

[Anonymous No.14568390]

>>14568332
I browse /sfg/ all day and while I dream big I do nothing of note because I don't want the responsibility

[Anonymous No.14568392]

>>14568385
Usually I don’t like trainfags shitting up generals but this is very very based and trainpilled.

[Anonymous No.14568393]

>>14567986
The intro flashed a news article on screen about NASA's orbital construction boom and Clinton is campaigning on a space economy

Modules probably go up on Sea Dragon and get bolted together with space-trained construction workers who get brought up on shuttles. First episode already shows non-agency space personnel are a thing and apparently not as good as The Right Stuff.

I wonder when someone in-universe puts two and two together and realizes the main characters are disaster magnets. Nothing goes right when they're around but everything goes perfectly in the timeskips

[Anonymous No.14568397]

>>14568373
It's harder to do maglev. It's not impossible of course but it would seem very unlikely that a Mars settlement effort with several widely spread facilities and growing colonies would make the jump directly from ground vehicles like trucks to maglev trains without any in-between conventional rail systems, even if maglev technology progresses a lot by then.

[Anonymous No.14568402]

>>14568392
Thank you and I also avoid talking about trains but it just seems really likely that they'll be the most optimized form of transport on other worlds without significant atmospheres or oceans.

[Anonymous No.14568404]

>>14568393
fucking sea dragon meme magic

[Anonymous No.14568418]

>>14568397
rovers -> cable cars -> railways will be the progression as transportation demands increase

[Anonymous No.14568426]

>>14568332
Invest several billion in SpaceX and hope to live long enough to see Mars
No matter how much misplaced self-confidence I have, I doubt I could do better than SpaceX and I definitely don't want to put in the work necessary to do better

[Anonymous No.14568430]

>>14568280
>>14568291
>Company comes into stable but shit market
>Makes something better
>Older companies no likey the progress
>Lawsuits and warnings ensue
The classic move when the market is too stable and Billy isn't gonna be getting his guaranteed pay check every month.

[Anonymous No.14568439]

>>14568418
>someone once suggested cable cars for the moon and now because I'm a retarded autist I can't stop suggesting using cable cars everywhere
stop being retarded

[Anonymous No.14568445]

>>14568439
> no argument
duly noted

[Anonymous No.14568448]

>>14568418
No advantage to cablecars.

[Anonymous No.14568456]

>>14568448
making cables and putting prefabricated towers every 100 metres along the route is easier than building rails & railbeds

[Anonymous No.14568464]

>Astra ($ASTR) down more than 20% as trading opens this morning after yesterday’s launch failure.

[Anonymous No.14568465]

>>14568456
Not really, no.

[Anonymous No.14568467]

>>14568464
Watch it go down in real time
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/ASTR/

[Anonymous No.14568469]

>>14568464
>1,53 USD per share
jesus christ it was 2,02 USD last night

[Anonymous No.14568472]

>>14568464
>>14568467
>>14568469
so when do I buy the dip?

[Anonymous No.14568474]

>>14568465
proof? bear in mind the cables can go over hills and chasms and that rails will need longer routes, bridges, tunnels etc.

[Anonymous No.14568476]

>>14568472
Now? It's not like it can get any worse… right?

[Anonymous No.14568477]

>>14568456
Aerial tramways have historically only been used in places where the local geography made building a railway impractical/expensive. It will always be cheaper and more practical to build a railway if you can, plus rail is more versatile in terms of the cargo you can carry.

[Anonymous No.14568479]

>>14568467
>if only you knew

[Anonymous No.14568483]

>>14568477
Is it possible to coil up railways like cable and then make them rigid after anchoring them to the Martian ground?

[Anonymous No.14568485]

>>14568483
u wot

[Anonymous No.14568492]

>>14568477
sure, eventually settlements and outposts will be connected by rail but in the intermediate period when rovers can't cut it and the civil engineering needed for rail is too much, cables will have their day

[Anonymous No.14568496]

>>14568492
Ah yes, just like that great period of westward expansion in the 19th century when the new territories of the United States were dotted with aerial tramways

Oh wait

[Anonymous No.14568501]

>>14568474
>proof?
It was revealed to me in a dream.
>bear in mind the cables can go over hills and chasms
Useless, just go around in a 200 km/h conventional train or a 800+ km/h maglev train.
>rails will need longer routes
Rails are useful for more than just short haul routes unlike cablecars, yes.
>bridges, tunnels etc
Cablecar pylons for a kilometer are more difficult to build than a single rail bridge over some unavoidable obstacle every ten kilometers, and tunnels aren't necessary to get rail installed on Mars any more than tunnels were necessary to cross the American midwest.

Cablecar transport is a niche solution to a narrow set of problems where rail is not suited. It's not a replacement or even really a competitor to rail. It's really a competitor to switchback roadways into steep walled craters and open pit mines. Connecting settlements will NOT happen using cablecars.

[Anonymous No.14568503]

>>14568483
No, silly. We won't be sending infrastructure hardware to other worlds inside rockets anyway, it'll all be made in-situ.

[Anonymous No.14568506]

>>14568496
>19 C. America is a good comparison for another planet where you are starting from scratch
Where will the Mars railroad coolies come from?

[Anonymous No.14568507]

[Anonymous No.14568513]

>>14568507
Noooooo not again please no more two weeks I can’t fucking handle the delays anymore.

[Anonymous No.14568520]

IT'S UP!

[Anonymous No.14568524]

>>14568492
There will never be a period in which "rovers" can't cut it though, at the very worst case we'd have land trains/convoys of a few dozen large vehicles rolling across the land on simple dirt roads cut from the landscape and cleared of boulders and such, similar to Antarctic convoys.

The way it will have to go is Settlement A needs resources that are available 100 km away or whatever, so a team uses satellite imagery to plan out a route that will require the least amount of roadwork to be done in order to establish a highway to that location. Once the preparatory work has been completed, a big convoy of vehicles heads off, with faster supply trucks making the back and forth trip along the road from Settlement A to the convoy in order to keep all needs met. The convoy arrives at the location and deploys the modules and equipment they brought with them, and they start constructing an outpost which will eventually grow and be called Settlement B. Now there's a well traveled and established roadway between Settlement A and B, but travel times are slow and cargo mass throughput is small. Work is done at first to improve the roads and reduce average trip times, but eventually the needs of both settlements require something better than a road. They want high mass throughput and short travel times. The transportation planning group designs a simple railway connecting both settlements: it stays fairly close to the highway for convenience in construction and access in case of a breakdown or emergency, but does deviate in a few places to go around obstacles and keep to wide sweeping turns. The construction teams go out and build the railway over the next couple of years, installing steel frame sleepers and steel rails, with one or two short sections of railway bridge, plus several sections of parallel track to allow multiple trains to use the railway at a time and pass by each other. Now the settlements have a conventional rail connection and are 30 mins apart.

[Anonymous No.14568530]

>>14568393
This kinda reminds me of an old manga called Moonlight Mile about a Japanese space construction worker

In hindsight it looks a lot like For All Mankind

[Anonymous No.14568532]

>>14568506
Probably something called Mars Heavy Industries Technologies Ltd, and resembling vid related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMXfU8blPMM&ab_channel=HD1080ide

[Anonymous No.14568536]

Environmental Assessment is done. Waiting for word from FAA on outcome

[Anonymous No.14568542]

>>14568464
Astra anon please fucking tell me you sold everything already
https://youtu.be/36KN5FIEY4k

[Anonymous No.14568545]

Any minute now...

[Anonymous No.14568546]

>>14568536
#Wen ropening?

[Anonymous No.14568547]

>>14568536
Me when the
When the uh
My face when the thing
The finding is a no significant impact

[Anonymous No.14568549]

>>14568536
REJOICE
THANK YOU JOE BIDEN

[Anonymous No.14568554]

everyone should send thank you cards to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20500
we need to reward good behavior

[Anonymous No.14568556]

>>14568536
I-is it finally happening? What is this emotion I am feeling...?

[Anonymous No.14568557]

14568549
14568554
Enough of that noise, we have something real to talk about now.

[Anonymous No.14568558]

Ariane 6 delayed to 2023

[Anonymous No.14568560]

>>14568549
I’m on team Brandon now, cmon man! Let’s get those faggots to Mars!

[Anonymous No.14568561]

>>14568558
That was expected.

[Anonymous No.14568564]

>>14568558
every launcher: sorry we're suffering from delays

spacex: the government is delaying us, we want to fucking launch already

[Anonymous No.14568565]

>>14568472
You dont

[Anonymous No.14568566]

[Anonymous No.14568567]

>>14568564
The government is not delaying SpaceX. Both the launch site and vehicles are not ready.

[Anonymous No.14568568]

>>14568557

[Anonymous No.14568573]

Is the site having the same issues as last time?

[Anonymous No.14568583]

>>14567794
Astra. More like Pulsar.

[Anonymous No.14568585]

>>14568567
The lunch site and vehicles are not ready because of delays to launch approval. No sense getting the minimum viable launch pad and vehicle ready if they're going to sit for 8 months doing nothing, when you can instead keep building better prototypes and working to implement more advanced features.

[Anonymous No.14568586]

Where the fuck is it?????
FAA what the fuck
Aaaaaaaaaaaa

[Anonymous No.14568590]

>>14568536
Wait so what was the finding of the EA

[Anonymous No.14568591]

>>14568573
It’s a cache issue I think

[Anonymous No.14568593]

>>14568586
They're scrambling to find an excuse for further delays

[Anonymous No.14568595]

If this post is dubs, then the FAA will release a FONSI today.

[Anonymous No.14568596]

DELAYED AGAIN WTF

[Anonymous No.14568599]

>>14567555
Korolev Gate sounds cool Tbh

[Anonymous No.14568602]

>>14568332
Mass-produced modular habitation. Long inflatables, primarily. Architecture built around Starship.
>that man could've made half a billion dollars

[Anonymous No.14568603]

>>14568102
Interesting, i did not think about it that way, do you know any related resources?

[Anonymous No.14568606]

$ASTR is at $1.50

[Anonymous No.14568607]

>>14567761
> pol
it so simple to spot newfag r3dditors nowadays

[Anonymous No.14568609]

>>14568596
Meanwhile, at the FAA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNTU0zgU00s

[Anonymous No.14568616]

>>14568606
Surprisingly it has plateaued since the initial drop

[Anonymous No.14568622]

Digits and the FAA approve

[Anonymous No.14568623]

>>14568603
>do you know any related resources
No that's all just from my own analysis of the mechanics. Basically all habitats are pressure vessels, and the requirements for building a pressure vessel are easier to satisfy at smaller scales, therefore at smaller scales there can exist much more variety in design and materials used compared to larger scales, where the sheer forces involved hammer out a lot of the wiggle room.

[Anonymous No.14568625]

>>14568622
Checked. FAA will approve

[Anonymous No.14568626]

>>14568622
I am watching intently

[Anonymous No.14568635]

>>14568607
even easier to spot faggots from the boards where words like redditors are marked as spam who keep shitting up wholesome sfg
keep telling us how much of an old fag you are again freind

[Anonymous No.14568638]

>>14568635
Bro you're fucking retarded, just quit.

[Anonymous No.14568639]

>>14568622

[Anonymous No.14568647]

>>14568622

[Anonymous No.14568648]

>>14568635
Shut up and keep it on-topic

[Anonymous No.14568649]

>>14568622
Very nice

[Anonymous No.14568653]

>>14568501
>Useless, just go around in a 200 km/h conventional train or a 800+ km/h maglev train.
...which are so easy to make that we already have them all over Earth, and can just everything over in a rocket. Or let's make them on Mars, bro!

[Anonymous No.14568656]

>>14567561
its from the mars trilogy, essential read if u care about mars colonisation.

[Anonymous No.14568661]

>>14568653
Their lack of prevalence has little to do with how difficult they are to build.

[Anonymous No.14568663]

>>14568547
Sorry about the months of delay, bro, we had to make sure that no beetles got killed until we absotively posolutely knew they wouldn't be!

[Anonymous No.14568670]

>>14568661

[Anonymous No.14568672]

>>14568670
I rest my case.

[Anonymous No.14568674]

>>14568596
The delays will continue until the orange turd flies or blows up.

[Anonymous No.14568678]

Mildly mitigated FONSI. ESGhound is going to rally legal efforts against it. Expect a media blitz in 2 months
>T. Knower of things

[Anonymous No.14568685]

>>14568678
>3.5k follower twitter
>Doing anything
lol

[Anonymous No.14568687]

>>14568670
Dude, just stop. No one is interested in your /o/ autism. Go bug them with your fetish.

[Anonymous No.14568690]

>>14568685
He’s just doing his job for kinder morgan

[Anonymous No.14568693]

Just fucking ship the thing to Florida and launch from 39A. Why haven’t they done this?

[Anonymous No.14568695]

>>14568693
Because they're building a factory and launch site in Florida too.

[Anonymous No.14568697]

>>14568254
Sloppy build

[Anonymous No.14568705]

>>14568622
TODAY IS THE FUCKING DAY
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU JOE

[Anonymous No.14568707]

What is the "knowledge path" to understand rocket science and the physics involved on satellite development. I just read several books about it but they are very surface level Imo. so I appreciate if you guys could help me with some topics in order. Im going to start with this basic physics course for now.

[Anonymous No.14568718]

Is it wrong if I kind of agree with NASA on their concerns for the LC-39A starship pad? If it explodes it nukes the entire site, including where they launch crews.
Starship is cool but it shouldn’t endanger the gravy train (F9, dragon, etc.)

[Anonymous No.14568720]

>>14568707
Da rocket ship have da bendy line in da fee dimensuhn
Bendy line do da diffwent tings whwn da gawvity do da fing
When da rocket hit da fing it also change line

[Anonymous No.14568721]

>>14568653
>200 km/h conventional rail
Yes, we do have these all over Earth actually.
>800+ km/h maglev
Completely feasible on a planet with less gravity and 0.006x as much atmosphere. Really the only barrier would be how difficult it is to keep the magnets operating, and since maglev is possible on the hot humid Earth it should be just as possible on Mars.
>can just everything over in a rocket
Never claimed that
>or let's make them on Mars
Yes, just like we will make every other piece of technology necessary for sustaining a settlement on Mars. If you are trying to argue that a maglev train can't be built on Mars, then you're really arguing that space colonization is impossible for whatever reason, in which case why are you in this thread?

[Anonymous No.14568724]

>>14568718
it's just a big fireball, not a bomb

[Anonymous No.14568733]

>>14568720
What drives someone to write and solve a captcha to post this in a science board

[Anonymous No.14568735]

>>14568733
/Sci/ catalog is worse

[Anonymous No.14568739]

>>14568724
A wild starship could easily knock over the launch tower at 39-A and screw everything over. They would have to launch from 40 or another pad. Maybe landing area 1 or 2 that Falcon-9 uses.

[Anonymous No.14568740]

>>14568733
Ask a stupid question, get a stupid response.
If you had done enough fundemental physics and math you wouldn't need to ask that

[Anonymous No.14568748]

>>14568733
Immutable physical interactions between particles making up the brain of the human writing the post, free will is an illusion

[Anonymous No.14568749]

>>14568707
Many universities have direct pipelines for those areas. Shouldn't be so hard to look at their syllabus.

[Anonymous No.14568751]

>>14568707
Unironically play KSP, you will seek the knowledge as you run into problems or stare at things happening

[Anonymous No.14568753]

When will the first weed plant be grown in space?

[Anonymous No.14568754]

>>14568740
smart guy, must felt really good writing that i bet.
>>14568749 and >>14568751
are good answers, thanks ill give it a look/try.

[Anonymous No.14568755]

>>14568753
Earth is in space

[Anonymous No.14568761]

>>14568306
the entire financial sector is extremely jewish and needs to be burned out an rebuilt

[Anonymous No.14568762]

>>14568755
Not on earth then

[Anonymous No.14568764]

>>14568753
If I had to live confined inside a pressurized habitat and one of the other colonists had one of those STINKING shitplants growing inside, I would probably just commit murder.

[Anonymous No.14568766]

>>14568483
>>14568492
>>14568501
Cables definitely have a place: mining. Here’s how it would work. Several pairs of pylons are placed over an ore patch. Cables are strung between them. Each pair of pylons have several cable cars running along them. Bucket is lowered from the cable car, scoops up some dirt then deposits it at the cable car terminal. If you design the system well, you can basically mine an arbitrary pit anywhere you want. You could even have the poles be rovers themselves (self-burying/drilling anchors and a telescoping pole system). This mining setup would have several parallel identical setups to mine not just a line but a rectangle. The idea is basically a networked dragline.

Cables (technically wire rope) are fairly low tech- they’d be one of the first things to make with indigenous steel. The pylons are also low tech (angle iron, bolts). So the only imported components of the system would be computers and motors (and ball bearings etc). The cable car system also has the advantage of only exposing the rugged parts to the mine- a bucket scoop- instead of an expensive bulldozer, truck, etc. also, because the pit is only accessed with cable cars it wouldn’t need a road to be built into it, making operations simpler.

[Anonymous No.14568771]

>>14568332
an investigation into whether space habitats, hotels, or asteroid mining will be more near-term profitable, then go with that
expand into the others as the capital comes in to feed it

[Anonymous No.14568772]

>>14568766
Just build a big dragline excavator it's easier and just as effective at digging holes

[Anonymous No.14568777]

>>14568771
Nah just invent a life support system crate that can be mounted inside any pressurized volume and support X number of people. Habitat design now boils down to picking a pressurized volume you want then buying N crates to service a population of N(X) people.

[Anonymous No.14568782]

>>14568766
so this but on the moon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RiYXI1Tfu4

[Anonymous No.14568784]

>>14568501
Maglevs are expensive and underutilized on earth because a) airplanes have economies of scale and can compete on many journey legs and b) land is already taken. Airplanes are hard on Mars (need to fly really fast to make enough lift) so will likely not be a big method of transportation.(point to point rockets on Mars are actually really viable, but need lots of propellant). Maglevs are nice bc once you build them their operating cost is very low - Mars is cold so superconductors don’t need exotic cooling, and the power to levitate and move a train is minimal with such minimal air density and gravity.

[Anonymous No.14568786]

>>14568335
>>14568602
This is also what I was planning on doing. Develop inflatables that fit within a Falcon 9 cargo bay, have whipple shielding and maybe radiation shielding, and set up easily. Also R&D life support systems and electricity systems that work well in space, so you can integrate those into the inflatables.

From there, create an entire architecture of modular segments so you can build an entire space station with a few Falcon launches. Obviously, futureproof by designing larger segments that fit into a Starship bay as well.

You could adapt it for Mars or the Moon by just putting legs on it so it doesn't lose heat to the ground. Bam, Mars base done.

t. the guy who posted the challenge

[Anonymous No.14568799]

>>14568332
I would start a Space Suits company. I think we need that now more than ever.

[Anonymous No.14568804]

>>14568404
the magic of dirt cheap full retard heavy lift

[Anonymous No.14568805]

>>14568799
exoskeleton or bust

[Anonymous No.14568806]

>>14568784
Yeah pretty much. I'm not sure I fully agree with the idea that cooling is significantly easier on Mars (it's a bit colder sure but it's also harder to get rid of waste heat in such thin air, but then again it should be easier to insulate the electronics from inflowing heat as well). In the outer solar system though I'd fully agree, maglev train systems are going to be superviable, especially at Saturn and beyond where average temperatures are low enough that REBCO superconductors work under more or less ambient conditions. Essentially all of the magic of flexible room temperature superconductors, except for inside of the actual habitat spaces.

[Anonymous No.14568808]

>>14568751

SimpleRockets 2 > KSP

[Anonymous No.14568810]

>>14568782
>>14568766
Kind of! But the cable cars actually have their own winch and bucket to drop down and scoop up stuff in their path.
>>14568772
The limit on how much a dragline can dig is the length of the boom and the angle of repose of the dirt it’s digging. A cable system I proposed could do a kilometer wide pit or something insane like that.

[Anonymous No.14568812]

>>14568804
Funny how we still collectively think of sea dragon as cheap as dirt when it was expected to achieve around $300/kg, 3x the pessimistic estimate for Starship launch economics.

[Anonymous No.14568819]

>>14568810
A dragline excavator could do any sized pit so long as it was capable of moving around, though, and it'd be a lot less of a headache to set up in the first place. I just really dislike the idea of railroading yourself by using a piece of generally immobile infrastructure as your excavation tool.

[Anonymous No.14568820]

>>14568812
starship will be priced alot higher than $300/kg

[Anonymous No.14568823]

>>14568820
if there is no competition then yes

[Anonymous No.14568824]

Faa did it. It's over!!! SpaceX is finished

[Anonymous No.14568825]

>>14568808
>SimpleRockets 2 > KSP

[Anonymous No.14568826]

>>14568707
>>14568751
>Unironically play KSP
You mean play KSP RO/RSS/RP1. Stock KSP is useful for learning basic gameplay mechanics but he should switch after that. Obviously it's no replacement for studying but it's fun and it will help establish an understanding of how spaceflight actually works.
>>14568602
>Architecture built around Starship
>8m inflatables
Nigger, Starship is the reason why inflatables make no sense outside of specialty modules that absolutely must have a larger diameter than 8m. For length you can just combine shorter modules that have a large docking port.

[Anonymous No.14568827]

>>14568824
It's joever

[Anonymous No.14568832]

>>14568143
I miss the old Mars art

[Anonymous No.14568833]

>>14568824

[Anonymous No.14568838]

>>14568820
$300/kg Starship equates to $45,000,000/launch if Starship is doing 150 tons to orbit. That's a pessimistic number for fully operational Starship launch prices. I would only expect to see $45 million/launch during early days right as Starship is debuting as a commercial launch option.

[Anonymous No.14568842]

>>14568838
shotwell has already said they are going to price starship launches the same as falcon 9

[Anonymous No.14568843]

>>14568832
Dude seems stoked to have found that fossil

[Anonymous No.14568848]

>>14568838
>>14568842
still a substantial discount considering the mass difference
not surprising they'd want to squeeze profit
more cash they make, the more starship factories they can afford

[Anonymous No.14568851]

>>14568842
Yeah hence my post. If you think her statement means "Starship will perpetually cost $50 million per launch like a Falcon 9" then you're incorrect. Starship launch costs and prices are guaranteed to drop over time and only a very small amount of decrease compared to the Falcon 9 is necessary to achieve better launch economics than Sea Dragon.

[Anonymous No.14568853]

>>14568851
if anything they will go up not down
hyper inflation is here to stay

[Anonymous No.14568855]

>>14568853
Hyperinflation is not permanent.

[Anonymous No.14568857]

>>14568855
correct
destruction of society comes after that
just look at every other nation that has hyper inflation

[Anonymous No.14568858]

>>14568853
You fat retard, they could lower the price if they wanted to, but they have no reason to if there’s no competition

[Anonymous No.14568862]

>>14568853
>>>/d/

[Anonymous No.14568864]

>>14568858
wrong
falcon 9 had its price increased recently
if they were making hueg profit they wouldn't need to do that

[Anonymous No.14568868]

>still nothing from FAA
it's over

[Anonymous No.14568869]

>>14568857
Developed nations can deal with that.

[Anonymous No.14568870]

>>14568862
kek

[Anonymous No.14568871]

>>14568869
you hope and pray they can

[Anonymous No.14568873]

>>14568868
Imagine if protesters actually protested the right things for a change.

[Anonymous No.14568878]

>>14568678
>ESGhound
Works for Oil & Gas companies fuck him hypocrite

[Anonymous No.14568881]

https://twitter.com/joroulette/status/1536381765375258624

[Anonymous No.14568882]

>>14568881
>last minute release
*sigh*

[Anonymous No.14568883]

>>14568881
1h 40min for the release

[Anonymous No.14568884]

>>14568881
reminder that FAA can still give starbase the red stamp
its most likely to happen since NASA is now shitcanning the florida site

[Anonymous No.14568885]

>>14568873
They don't take street protestors seriously.

[Anonymous No.14568887]

>>14568871
I can't wait.

[Anonymous No.14568888]

>>14568853
>hyperinflation
>less than 10%

retard alert

[Anonymous No.14568891]

>>14568888
>>less than 10%
OHNONONONONONOOOOO
spoiler alert the real inflation amount is closer to 20%

[Anonymous No.14568892]

>>14568864
They increased the number of dollars you need to use to buy a launch, they did not increase the price. Inflation simply means the same price requires a greater amount of less valuable currency.

[Anonymous No.14568893]

>>14568888
>less than 10%
true retard alert

[Anonymous No.14568894]

>>14568891
>>14568893
Sorry I got quads I win you lose.

[Anonymous No.14568896]

>>14568881
It's definitely 100% ready to release right now, what's going to be completed in less than two hours that it needs to be held back for?

[Anonymous No.14568897]

>>14568892
>they increased the price
>b-but they didn't increase the price ok???
holy cope

[Anonymous No.14568898]

>>14568864
Why wouldn’t they increase their price? They can charge more and get the same business. It’s not a charity.

[Anonymous No.14568902]

>>14568894
>>>/b/

[Anonymous No.14568905]

I am a bit worried about the FAA thing

[Anonymous No.14568906]

>>14568885
only when the "protest" is for Current Thing being shilled by the MSM

[Anonymous No.14568907]

>>14568897
Relative to all other commodities on the planet, their price is identical to what it was before. Prices haven't gone up, money has been devalued.

[Anonymous No.14568908]

>>14568902
I accept your concession.

[Anonymous No.14568909]

>>14568888
You can run massive deficits and pay for it either with higher taxes or devalued currency. Congress has no appetite for raising taxes so everyone is fucked by hyperinflation.

[Anonymous No.14568913]

>>14568905
don't be
while the political fuck fuck games can let them delay it a fuckton, Musk's political friends forbids them from outright denying it
if they try, Texas will sue

[Anonymous No.14568916]

>>14568909
Well the hope was that depressed demand from the recession would prevent inflation.

For the smaller stimuluses that we did during the 2008 recession, it didn't contribute to inflation at all.

The problem is that the economy recovered quicker than we were expecting, and demand increased, which led to a massive supply crisis. The whole Ukraine thing is aggravating the problem by raising food and energy costs.

[Anonymous No.14568917]

With all due respect if they block Starship launches from Boca Chica I will assassinate the families of every member of FAA upper management

[Anonymous No.14568921]

>>14568917
Respectful

[Anonymous No.14568926]

Knower here
Elon is going to be PISSED
If he doesn't know already(he probably does)

[Anonymous No.14568931]

>>14568913
Ah, I see schizos already have their cope prepared

[Anonymous No.14568934]

It's fucking over lads

>t. knower

[Anonymous No.14568938]

Some leaker says SpaceX made FONSI but there are some mitigation’s to be made

[Anonymous No.14568939]

>>14568934
What's over?

[Anonymous No.14568940]

Ship 24 is getting prepped for a full stack and there's about 300 methane trucks being staged, I think SpaceX is about to get the launch license. We've been waiting 10 months, the launch could be as soon as tomorrow morning.

[Anonymous No.14568942]

>>14568938
the "some mitigation's" basically make the site unusable

[Anonymous No.14568945]

>>14568942
>5 launches per year
It has already been basically unusable.

[Anonymous No.14568946]

>>14568940
launch license takes a month

[Anonymous No.14568948]

>>14568942
No it means no expansions, only one launch area, etc. kind of sucks but whatever

[Anonymous No.14568949]

>>14568938
>>14568942
>some mitigations
"You can launch as often as you want, as long as you humanely evacuate all wildlife within 2.5km of the launch pad before every launch"
"Yes this includes beetles"

[Anonymous No.14568950]

>>14568945
>still thinks its 5

[Anonymous No.14568952]

on a completely unrelated note
how far along are the oil rigs?

[Anonymous No.14568954]

The best mitigation requirement is going to be SpaceX taking out most of the Starbase employee parking spots since they'll have to be shuttled in from Brownsville.

That's a lot more area opened up for production.

[Anonymous No.14568956]

>FAA
>we won't let you launch in Boca Chica because it's not the only possible site
>>14568718
>NASA
>concerns for the LC-39A starship pad

[Anonymous No.14568957]

>>14568956
yep
its oil rigs or bust now

[Anonymous No.14568959]

>>14568952
Probably haven't done anything significant to them, however it's not like they'd be much more complex than a land-based launch pad so I'm not bothered by this fact at all.

[Anonymous No.14568960]

>>14568956
Bro it’s a good concern. Look at the damage N1 caused when it exploded. A starship explosion at 39a would be awful

[Anonymous No.14568961]

>>14568956
Is it outside the realm of possibility that Elon and his top engineers all pick up and move to China?

[Anonymous No.14568962]

SpaceX's SLC-40 Falcon 9 crewed launch implementation will include lifting Crew up via man-lifts to the side hatch and the pad crew too, everything being done on man-lifts and NASA's heads will spin

[Anonymous No.14568963]

Why is nobody concerned with the potential Megumin rocket explosion?

[Anonymous No.14568964]

>>14568961
>NASA is worried Starship failing right next to their launch pad for Crew Dragon is a concern
OH NOOOO AHHHH THIS IS AWFUL AHHHHH

[Anonymous No.14568965]

>>14568961
Yes

[Anonymous No.14568967]

>>14568961
yes
they know the bugmen would just steal their data and put a bullet through their skulls, if the CIA somehow didn't do it first

[Anonymous No.14568970]

We knew they’d probably get a mitigated FONSI for a few weeks. Why all the doom and gloom?

[Anonymous No.14568973]

>>14568963
fuel isn't properly mixed upon explosion
it'd be a very pretty and loud fireball, but the destructive power would be minimal
Tower would be mangled, but it was built to be a dirt cheap tank

>>14568970
just a horde of shitposters taking the opportunity
they'll leave shortly when they get bored and not show up again until the next mess

[Anonymous No.14568974]

>>14568970
the mitigated part is alot worse now

[Anonymous No.14568975]

Knower here
CSS is going to be PISSED
If he doesn't know already(he probably does)

[Anonymous No.14568979]

>>14567968
Might be interesting to see how turbopump power scales with engine thrust.

[Anonymous No.14568985]

SpaceX probably won’t need more than 5 or so flights a year until 2024 anyways. By then they’ll have the LC-39a (or whatever cape backup) ready

[Anonymous No.14568986]

>>14568961
China is headed into economic collapse I wouldn't go there. I think offshore platforms would be a better backup option but making a land-based launch site work would be cheapest achievable, IF they can get the permissions to do the things they are aspiring to do. Maybe compromise and build an artificial island/platform in the gulf with some floating LOX/Methane pipelines stretching to a tanker facility on shore.

[Anonymous No.14568987]

https://twitter.com/RyanHansenSpace/status/1535639399672815623

I dont think there's ever been a rocket in history with a stage zero that threatened to destroy it so completely on launch if it didn't all work perfectly

Risky

[Anonymous No.14568989]

>>14568985
You're confusing the potential limited scope defined by FAA with the potential need for less launch scope. Don't confuse the cause for the effect.

SpaceX wants all the launch capability they can get. If that means 1000 launches per year from Boca, they will seek that. Don't mistake the environmental limitations with limited ambitions of SpaceX.

[Anonymous No.14568992]

>>14568987
I’m going to be honest, this, combined with the potential to nuke the launch site, makes Starship look like a bad idea. This is unsafe.

[Anonymous No.14568993]

>>14568884

I'm so stoked to see the endless waves of seethe when the muskrats are BTFO once in for all.

[Anonymous No.14568994]

>>14568973
>Tower would be mangled
It may be heat affected and they'd likely need to pull a few kilometers of new cable to replace the old burned up stuff but yeah, a big fireball poof looks dramatic but isn't that destructive, all that glowing hot gas represents energy that ISN'T going into the shockwave after all.

[Anonymous No.14568997]

>>14568975
CSS may be pissed but he's always retarded

[Anonymous No.14568999]

>>14568987
To be fair, if any rocket’s hold down clamps fail, the rocket does too

[Anonymous No.14569002]

Clearly what SpaceX needs to do is just build a booster and starship stack somewhere sans engines, avionics, etc, fuel it up to full and detonate it Mythbusters style to find out what the damage would be on LC-39A and Starbase, I recommend White Sands lol

[Anonymous No.14569003]

Knower here
EGS is going to be PISSED
If he doesn't know already(he probably does)

[Anonymous No.14569004]

>>14568987

>I dont think there's ever been a rocket in history with a stage zero that threatened to destroy it so completely on launch if it didn't all work perfectly

How about the N1, which actually managed to do exactly that?

[Anonymous No.14569006]

>>14569002
This could actually work

[Anonymous No.14569005]

>>14568193
Rail greasing is a common practice to reduce wear here on urf. Im sure a low pressure grease formulation is possible.

[Anonymous No.14569012]

>>14568987

[Anonymous No.14569013]

>>14568992
>We have no idea what a methalox pad explosion would be like! It could be like a nuke going off!
>We have to expect the worst and NOT BUILD ANYTHING!
>>14569002
based

[Anonymous No.14569014]

>>14568987
? All launch towers have hold down clamps, SSH isn't special in that regard. Also, these things are beefy as hell and perform a very simple swing/away motion after releasing the booster. If one doesn't signal it unlocked its release on the booster, the rest won't let go. If one unlocks but fails to retract, then it's gonna get washed by exhaust and likely need some repairs. Pretty sure there's no failure mode in which the booster tries to lift off but is still pinned at one point and dies as a result.

[Anonymous No.14569016]

SpaceX needs to be shutdown. For safety of all the union paying job workers who would be exposed to the nuclear explosion from the SpaceX rockets failures.

[Anonymous No.14569020]

>>14569004
Stage Zero didn't destroy N1...

[Anonymous No.14569021]

>>14569005
>Im sure a low pressure grease formulation is possible
Yeah it's called graphite dust

[Anonymous No.14569030]

Knower here. The mitigations are all related so solving them is easy. This is good news.

[Anonymous No.14569029]

>>14569013
That was mostly vapors, for the real deal look at SN5 blowing up with several hundred tons of liquid methalox propellants inside. Hint: it wasn't significantly more destructive.

[Anonymous No.14569036]

>>14569013
It's been so long since last test kino...

[Anonymous No.14569038]

>>14569030
>The mitigations are all related so solving them is easy.
All the mitigations are solved by never launching

[Anonymous No.14569040]

La creatura paga de la Nasa

[Anonymous No.14569045]

>>14569040
>gif becomes jpg
I hate iPhones.

[Anonymous No.14569048]

>>14569038
Fortune favours the bold

[Anonymous No.14569050]

>>14568851
>>14568842
She probably is wary of the Osborne Effect. If she says Starship will be much cheaper than Falcon 9, some customers will opt to wait.

[Anonymous No.14569052]

>>14569045

[Anonymous No.14569054]

>>14568314
>>14568321
>>14568328
>>14568339
4-5% is about the max practical for conventional locomotive driven trains, although EMU where each axle is driven can double that.

[Anonymous No.14569060]

>>14568973
When the second stage of that F9 blew up it fucked up the tower though

[Anonymous No.14569065]

>>14569045
It's not iPhones, it's just 4chins being shit with phones. It's why phone images sometimes get flipped

[Anonymous No.14569066]

Gonna sound stupid but what if SpaceX just doesn’t explode Starships?

[Anonymous No.14569070]

>>14569060
That was kerolox, methane is lighter than air after it boils.

[Anonymous No.14569072]

>BEETLES are the single hurdle to interplanetary colonization

This timeline sucks

[Anonymous No.14569075]

>>14568853
okay, stop being a fucking retard for 5 seconds and adjust for inflation

[Anonymous No.14569083]

>>14569052
based
>>14569065
I hate moot

[Anonymous No.14569084]

>>14569066
they will
there's still too much shit to test for them to do it flawlessly
even if they do succeed without a fail, the nature of SpaceX is to crank things to the limit until they fail, just to see where those limits are

[Anonymous No.14569087]

>>14568314
>>14568321
>>14569054
You're missing the really pain in the ass part.

Surface temperature on Mars varies by like 100 degrees between day and night. How are you going to prevent buckling and brittleness in the steel rails?

[Anonymous No.14569088]

>wake up
>still no final PEA
i can't take it

[Anonymous No.14569090]

>>14569075
Inflation wouldn't be an issue if was zero-sum as you seem to be insisting. Please stop replying, you are retarded. Your input on the subject is not welcome or in any way insightful.

[Anonymous No.14569094]

>>14569090
>everyone on 4chan that replies to me is the same person
take your fucking meds or kill yourself

[Anonymous No.14569096]

>>14568483
Kind of. There's trains that carry continuously welded rail in half mile long sections, and the rail just flexes as the train goes around curves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XH5S012dOo

[Anonymous No.14569101]

>>14569094
wrong

[Anonymous No.14569105]

Honestly Starship is pretty reliable so far. Like shit breaks once in a while but the ship has demonstrated a perfect ascent so fAr

[Anonymous No.14569111]

>>14569096
We need an automated version of this to litter the Martian surface with rails made of ISRU steel.

[Anonymous No.14569113]

>>14569087
Put a roof over the track. Track is always in shade, track always stays very cold, expansion/contraction is mitigated.

[Anonymous No.14569115]

>>14568622
>anon didn't say it would be today

[Anonymous No.14569117]

Say it with me now,
F
O
N
S
I

[Anonymous No.14569121]

>>14569088
31 minutes

[Anonymous No.14569122]

>>14568687
>trains and maglev
>/o/
lol

[Anonymous No.14569124]

>>14569105
that 3 engined thing is not starship

[Anonymous No.14569131]

>>14569014
That's exactly what Jinx planned.

[Anonymous No.14569132]

It leaked
Check reddit
Doesn't look good

[Anonymous No.14569133]

Astra is at $1.50 a share. Astrabro I work at a grocery store maybe we can hire you now

[Anonymous No.14569134]

>>14568993
>>14569004
>>14569052
>>>/a/

[Anonymous No.14569136]

>>14569134
>>>/reddit/

[Anonymous No.14569138]

NASA's LC-39A concerns will likely accelerate LC-49b development

(this is a good thing)

[Anonymous No.14569139]

>>14568766
Like areceibo (rip) but moving a bucket instead of the receiver.

[Anonymous No.14569141]

>>14569133
Line go down?
Wen line go back up??

[Anonymous No.14569142]

>>14569138
The tower segments aren’t stacked but they’re done. Moving them somewhere else is probably ezpz

[Anonymous No.14569147]

>>14569142
it's not that easy in tower segment transportation

[Anonymous No.14569150]

Supposed Reddit insider weighs in on the FONSI

[Anonymous No.14569154]

>>14569113
> Martian trains need hundred mile long cucksheds to work
oh no no no

[Anonymous No.14569160]

>>14569111
I do believe that across a large portion of Mars' surface, at least 40%, the ground is already flat and stable enough that a long trainlike vehicle that rolled on wheels in front and on rails in back and assembled and installed the railway as it drove across the landscape would be a viable and effective option for building out this kind of rail network. It'd be supplied with materials and components via vehicles travelling on the rail it laid down as it crawled along.

[Anonymous No.14569161]

>>14568975
Css is perpetually assblasted

[Anonymous No.14569163]

>>14569113
Put solar panels over the track and run vehicles over the solar panels. Solar Friggin' Roadways will finally have its day in the sun.
Mostly joking but if engineered correctly, lightweight vehicles could use that. If you need to run some machine parts between outposts, using the full size high speed train wouldn't be ideal unless one happened to be leaving at the right time.

[Anonymous No.14569165]

>>14569150
>claim insider
>regurgitate publicly available information
What did he mean by it?

[Anonymous No.14569168]

>>14569002
Yes please

[Anonymous No.14569169]

>NASA says the FAA and Astra will lead an investigation into the TROPICS-1 failure, with the agency expecting to put the launch schedule of the two remaining TROPICS missions on hold in the meantime.

[Anonymous No.14569170]

>>14569169
AND IT DON'T STOP COMING AND IT DON'T STOP COMIN AND IT DON'T STOP COMIN

[Anonymous No.14569171]

>>14569154
Shouldn't Discovery have its primary engines removed in that configuration?

[Anonymous No.14569173]

>>14569169
>AND YOU COULD HAVE IT ALL
>MY EMPIRE OF DIRT

[Anonymous No.14569174]

>>14569169
>put the launch schedule of the two remaining TROPICS missions on hold in the meantime
Oh thank god, they've gotten a stay of execution.

[Anonymous No.14569175]

>>14569169
>NTSB will desperately try to butt in

[Anonymous No.14569177]

>>14569154
>Martian railways benefit greatly from tin roof cuckshed technology
>use solar panels as roofing material along rail lines because why not
>solar cells and simple battery banks every 100 meters both provide shade in the day to keep the rails cool and provide energy to heat traces at night in winter to prevent the rails cooling off too much
>whole system maintains the rails within a 10 degree celsius range year round, 24.5h/day
seems like not a bad idea actually

[Anonymous No.14569180]

Who do you guys think is gonna buy Astra?

[Anonymous No.14569182]

>>14569163
Just drive under the solar panels silly.

[Anonymous No.14569183]

>>14569177
Then put curved panels enclosing the sides and now you have hyperloop.

[Anonymous No.14569184]

>>14569163
Use the solar panels for shade for the track instead

[Anonymous No.14569186]

>>14569183
Yes, it's very important to exclude the famously thick Martian atmosphere to reduce drag.

[Anonymous No.14569187]

>>14568784
>>14568806
One other advantage maglevs will have over conventional trains in lower gravity worlds-they will be able to go faster around the same curve than a train could. The lower gravity means that trains will need higher superelevtaion than they would on earth, but the superelevation required would make them unstable at low speeds.For passenger trains it's possible to counteract this using tilting cars, but freight cars don't tilt. Maglev of course doesn't have to worry about tipping over at anyspeed, so it can use all the superelevation desired.

[Anonymous No.14569188]

>>14569183
Nah leave the sides open-air so you don't get a buildup of compressed air in the tube front of your train, so you can go faster

[Anonymous No.14569190]

>>14569182
You shouldn't drive on train tracks. Bad things tend to happen.

[Anonymous No.14569191]

>>14569173
What could have been....
Starship will be orbital before astra launches another tropics(and kills it again)

[Anonymous No.14569193]

>>14569186
Branding is very important.

[Anonymous No.14569196]

>>14569187
>For passenger trains it's possible to counteract this using tilting cars, but freight cars don't tilt.
But why can't you tilt a freight car, weight? There's less weight for the same mass maybe that's enough, alternatively build stronger tilting mechanisms

[Anonymous No.14569201]

15 minutes till muskrats start seething
I can almoat hear it already

[Anonymous No.14569203]

>>14569163
SOLAR
FREAKING
RAILWAYS

[Anonymous No.14569204]

you can tell they're offboarders from the terminology

[Anonymous No.14569205]

>>14569190
Drive on the tracks with a train, is what I meant

[Anonymous No.14569206]

>>14569188
And miss out on the opportunity to add a vent every 100 meters with one of these guys on it?

[Anonymous No.14569209]

>>14569163
Tbh for the amount of effort it takes to put up hundreds or thousands of miles of solar panels, you could just use self driving rovers.

[Anonymous No.14569210]

>>14569004
Are you excited Phosposter?

[Anonymous No.14569213]

>>14569196
Shifting cargo?

[Anonymous No.14569214]

>>14569203
Reminder that these are a good idea and phil can't let it go

[Anonymous No.14569215]

Glorious...

[Anonymous No.14569220]

>>14569213
I would imagine the cargo would shift more if the car couldn't tilt into the turns, though. Think of driving around a corner holding a coffee vertically versus making that exact turn but letting your coffee angle slightly into the turn, the latter case is less likely to spill

[Anonymous No.14569221]

>>14569215
>collagefag is the cable car fag
It all makes sense now

[Anonymous No.14569222]

>>14569209
Not futracool enough.

[Anonymous No.14569227]

>>14569214
Solar roadways as envisioned are dumb. Building solar panels using conventional panels next to or overtop of roadways such that they can be easily reached by crews doing maintenance? Less bad of an idea.

[Anonymous No.14569228]

It's up.

[Anonymous No.14569229]

>>14569222
What about self driving land trains that use machine learning algorithms to search satellite imagery for paths?

[Anonymous No.14569232]

IT’S OUT NOW IDK THE LINK NSF LIVE
https://youtube.com/watch?v=yXqSpNZNyUc

[Anonymous No.14569234]

>>14569221
> all my enemies are the same guy
meds

[Anonymous No.14569235]

FAA CONFIRMED ITS A MITIGATED FONSI WE ARE GOING

[Anonymous No.14569236]

FONSI CONFIRMED

[Anonymous No.14569240]

ORBIT IN 30 MINUTES
>ORBIT IN 30 MINUTES

[Anonymous No.14569241]

MITIGATED FONSI
I HATE THEIR VOICES

[Anonymous No.14569242]

>>14569163
driving over them, in addition to being extremely retarded, would cover them in packed in dust really quick
better to do solar roofing if you need it, or just make regular solar farms and not deal with the nonsense to begin with

[Anonymous No.14569244]

We did it

[Anonymous No.14569245]

>>14569210
You think /sfg/ would be more into something explicitly about Earther genocide.

[Anonymous No.14569247]

beetle bros i don't feel so good

[Anonymous No.14569250]

WE GAAN

[Anonymous No.14569251]

>Mitigated FONSI

Sensible choice desu

[Anonymous No.14569252]

>20 pages of limitations
what the fuck

[Anonymous No.14569253]

>less than 5 launches per year
ITS OVER

[Anonymous No.14569255]

What will CSS and RGV do now?

[Anonymous No.14569256]

post the pdf

[Anonymous No.14569259]

>>14569242
Yes, the majority of power usage will occur around dense hubs of habitation and especially industrial activity, so clustering generation and storage around these centers just makes a lot more sense than spreading generation capacity across extremely long thin lines and then taking transmission losses to move that power where it's needed.

[Anonymous No.14569260]

>>14568546
What's in his (((mind))) right now

[Anonymous No.14569261]

no way to sugarcoat this

[Anonymous No.14569262]

>>14569256
https://www.faa.gov/sites/faa.gov/files/2022-06/Final_PEA_Executive_Summary.pdf

[Anonymous No.14569263]

>spacex MUST make annual contributions to specific wildlife organizations
CORRUPTION.jpg

[Anonymous No.14569265]

>>14569209
Yeah but then you dont get the extra energy

[Anonymous No.14569266]

https://www.faa.gov/sites/faa.gov/files/2022-06/Final_PEA_Executive_Summary.pdf

[Anonymous No.14569269]

>>14569260
>No . . . no, this can't be real. This isn't real.

[Anonymous No.14569268]

https://www.faa.gov/space/stakeholder_engagement/spacex_starship

[Anonymous No.14569270]

>>14569263
That's a bribe by any other name

[Anonymous No.14569271]

Huge L for SpaceX to be honest.

[Anonymous No.14569277]

You can post it here, you know?

[Anonymous No.14569272]

lmao get fucked ESG Hound

[Anonymous No.14569274]

>shuttle buses are now required
>employees must use shuttle buses to get around
OH NO NO NO

[Anonymous No.14569275]

O C E L O T B R I D G E

[Anonymous No.14569276]

>>14569263
ESG bros.... we won

[Anonymous No.14569278]

>>14569087
Shit youre right. Gonna have to use an ultralow carbon steel allow to minimize the ductile brittle transition temperature.

[Anonymous No.14569280]

>The natural gas pretreatment system and liquefier are no longer needed due to
advances in the design and capabilities of SpaceX’s Raptor engines. Previously,
additional refinement of methane to purer levels than commercially available was
anticipated to be needed. However, as a result of engine advances, SpaceX can rely on
commercially available methane without refinement.
>SpaceX increased the thrust of the Raptor
engine; therefore, SpaceX has reduced the total number of engines. This change would not
constitute any discernable changes in environmental impacts. An increase from 61.7
meganewtons (MN) to 74 MN would result in a less than 1 decibel change and would constitute
a negligible change to the noise contours. The maximum thrust for Super Heavy would not
exceed 74 MN.

[Anonymous No.14569281]

>75+ actions are required before starship is allowed to launch
what the fuck what the fuck

[Anonymous No.14569282]

>>14569274
NOT EVEN NASA DOES THIS

WHAT KEKED SHIT IS THIS

[Anonymous No.14569283]

>>14569263
Why specific? Do these organizations have any oversight at all?

[Anonymous No.14569287]

I told you
Starbase is essentially useless with all the restrictions

[Anonymous No.14569288]

>>14569281
I can get it down to one

[Anonymous No.14569291]

>>14569268
We are going

[Anonymous No.14569292]

>>14569283
No
that's the point
it doesn't make good corruption if you can't siphon shekels away

[Anonymous No.14569294]

IT’S OVER

[Anonymous No.14569293]

>>14569281
>what the fuck what the fuck
FAA has brutally raped SpaceX

[Anonymous No.14569295]

>>14569266
>Summary is 43 pages
Lol, lmao

[Anonymous No.14569296]

>>14569293
time for lawfare, as is tradition in jewish fuck fuck games

[Anonymous No.14569297]

>>14569180
Obviously jeff, he's got a passion for rockets that don't reach orbit

[Anonymous No.14569298]

is orbit in july still possible or what??

[Anonymous No.14569299]

>>14569282
NASA isnt owned by a fraudulent robber baron chuddy, cope

[Anonymous No.14569301]

>>14569298
they have to build out a whole shuttle bus system that runs 24hours a day

[Anonymous No.14569304]

>>14569255
Cry like they have been doing

[Anonymous No.14569305]

>>14569298
LOL No

[Anonymous No.14569306]

Esg actually won
Spacex requires a 404 permit
>a 404 Clean Water Act permit, which also means 6-12 months delay. The 404 process could require its own EIS/EA

[Anonymous No.14569307]

>>14569040
goblino los jaypegos

[Anonymous No.14569308]

there's like 15 actions related to turtles but none for beetles?

[Anonymous No.14569309]

>>14569299
It specifically is

[Anonymous No.14569311]

>>14569280
Hahahahhahaaa, fuck tou esg
Lmaooooo

[Anonymous No.14569312]

>Five launches a year
Fuck.

[Anonymous No.14569313]

>>14569298
Nope, by design
they don't want starship to fly ever, but they know they can't get that
so they're going to prevent them from flying til 2023

[Anonymous No.14569315]

>>14569306
>for filling wetlands

irrelevant

[Anonymous No.14569316]

>>14569306
More regulatory delay, great

[Anonymous No.14569319]

>5 launches per year limit
what the fuck
what the fuck
what the fcuk

[Anonymous No.14569320]

>>14569278
>ultralow carbon steel
Very easy to do when you're using hydrogen gas as your reducing agent instead of carbon.

[Anonymous No.14569323]

>>14569315
They cant do anything till they get it

[Anonymous No.14569325]

>>14569298
Yes assuming Starship is ready.

[Anonymous No.14569326]

>>14569281
DMV races of the administrative state fortifying things again

[Anonymous No.14569327]

Hang the regulations, hang the regulators, abolish the agencies.

[Anonymous No.14569330]

>>14569306
Well there it is, fuck
I hate red tape so fucking much, i wo der if they are just going to abandon boca chica now

[Anonymous No.14569331]

First time? Starship trending and not SpaceX like before

[Anonymous No.14569333]

>>14569319
that's been known for a while now

[Anonymous No.14569335]

>>14569306
Haahahah its literally fucking over

[Anonymous No.14569336]

>>14569323
>>14569330
so what do they want to fill the wetlands for?

[Anonymous No.14569337]

>>14569309
Name whoever it is you think owns NASA then schizo

[Anonymous No.14569338]

>>14569323
They cannot do any new expansion without it, sorry ESG but you lost bigly.

[Anonymous No.14569339]

>still need launch license on top of PEA mitigation measures

No launch in 2022 I bet

[Anonymous No.14569342]

>>14569336
They are required to fill in wetlands around the facility to stop water run off

[Anonymous No.14569343]

>Launch‐related operations are estimated to emit 43,892 metric tons of carbon dioxide equivalent per year. This estimation is substantially less than the total GHG emissions generated by the United States in 2018. The Proposed Action is not expected to result in significant climate‐related impacts.
Lol, you can tell they hate they have to respond to the "Muh climate" retards.

[Anonymous No.14569344]

Musk must cross the Rubic-Rio Grande

[Anonymous No.14569347]

>>14569338
The current site requires them to do filling for the pea

[Anonymous No.14569348]

>>14569337
The Federal Government: the greatest collection of criminal gangsters ever assembled in these lands.

[Anonymous No.14569352]

>Preparing a historical context report (i.e., historical narrative) of the historic events
and activities of the Mexican War (1846‐1848) and the Civil War (1861‐1865) that
took place in the geographic area associated with and including the Area of Potential
Effects (APE).
>Funding the development and production of five interpretive signs (in English and
Spanish) that describe the history and significance of the historic properties in the
APE.
>Funding educational outreach (i.e., webpage content for agency websites,
informative videos) to the public about the region's cultural heritage.
>Documenting the landscape of the Palmito Ranch Battlefield following the Level I
Historic American Landscapes Survey standards and guidelines for nationally
significant properties.
based. Where do I sign up to be SpaceX's official historian?

[Anonymous No.14569353]

https://mobile.twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1536409363497095168

> SpaceX gets a key decision from the FAA that will allow the regulatory process to move forward, bringing Starship orbital launches from South Texas closer to reality:

So I guess there is still a substantial amount of red tape left

[Anonymous No.14569354]

another year of starship development wouldn't be the worst thing, but this is still very bad

[Anonymous No.14569356]

>>14569306
>For filling wetlands

[Anonymous No.14569357]

>>14569348
Putin loving traitors have no place on /sfg/, pls go

[Anonymous No.14569358]

>>14569268
Mitigation section air quality 3.3.5

[Anonymous No.14569359]

>>14569301
They will have four buses driving around before wednesday next week

[Anonymous No.14569360]

This is good news what the fuck is wrong with you retards? The FAA was never going to say
>“yeah Elon go ahead lol and fly every day lol”
We didn’t even know if they’d get a FONSI a few months ago. What is wrong with you

[Anonymous No.14569361]

>>14569180
Spinlaunch.

[Anonymous No.14569362]

>>14569343
>This estimation is substantially less than the total GHG emissions generated by the United States in 2018
A completely meaningless statement. But your average American has a carbon footprint of ~10 tons CO2, so Starship program is equivalent to 4000 Americans, which is basically nothing.

[Anonymous No.14569363]

schizobros wtf??? you assured me biden wouldn't let this happen until the orange rocket launched?

[Anonymous No.14569365]

>>14569354
This is good, the only realistic alternative would be EIS.

[Anonymous No.14569367]

>>14569306
>for filling wetlands
So they can't fill more wetland for 6 months to a year, but they already have all their required filled wetland spaces, so this causes zero delay.

[Anonymous No.14569368]

>SpaceX would incorporate raptor protection measures into project design and any above‐ground utility upgrades. For example, SpaceX would equip structures with devices to discourage nest building and perching (e.g., monopole technology and visual fright devices).
Heh

[Anonymous No.14569369]

>>14569352
Nonody gave a ahit about that bedore spacex came in, and now its supposed to be some important historic site
Seems like these assessments are just a way to funnel money into all kinds of random ass shit

[Anonymous No.14569370]

>>14569358
Noise quality 3.5.5
>>14569277
Yeah, but not everyone can/wants to wade through large PDFs

[Anonymous No.14569371]

>>14569360
shitposters and retards

[Anonymous No.14569373]

>>14569312
>they launch Starship 5 times in 1 week this August then mothball the entire site

[Anonymous No.14569375]

>>14569368
spacex scarecrows + robodogs to patrol at night

[Anonymous No.14569376]

>>14569356
Which they are required to do

[Anonymous No.14569377]

>Doomers trying their hardest to make things sound bad
Why do they do this?

[Anonymous No.14569378]

>>14569308
Beetlebros where did we go wrong?

[Anonymous No.14569379]

>>14569308
He can't keep getting away with it!

[Anonymous No.14569380]

>>14569360
The amount of mitogation and extra paperwork might mean its quicker to launch from the cape or even a oil rig

[Anonymous No.14569382]

>>14569360
This is a crippled fonsi
Basically worse than just having it cancelled

[Anonymous No.14569383]

>>14569360
>This is good news what the fuck is wrong with you retards?

It will take at the very least a year to comply with all the mitigations, and apply for the permits.
IS FUCKING HORRIBLE NEWS.

[Anonymous No.14569384]

>>14569376
>It came to me in a dream

[Anonymous No.14569387]

tankwatchers btfo

[Anonymous No.14569388]

>>14569180
Someone with a net worth of more than $23.00

[Anonymous No.14569389]

>>14569370
Visual mitigations 3.6.5

[Anonymous No.14569391]

>>14569377
pissing and shitting about popular thing bad is the only reason they're alive
they aren't wrong though, while its not the permanent thing they keep shitposting it is, it'll be a fucking frustrating political lawfare game for them to unfuck the situation

[Anonymous No.14569392]

First lawsuit is already in

[Anonymous No.14569393]

>>14569380
Cape isn’t going to be done until 2023 let’s be real here

>>14569383
At least they didn’t get a EIS lol retard

>>14569382
If it was cancelled they’d be years away from launch

[Anonymous No.14569394]

musk is finished

[Anonymous No.14569396]

someone please sugarcoat this for me

[Anonymous No.14569398]

>>14569359
they'll need a fuel depot just for all the buses

[Anonymous No.14569399]

>>14569380
Not really. Quicker doesn't mean SpaceX doesn't want to launch. Besides, good chunk of the mitigations are put forward by SpaceX themselves, so the mitigations are likely already in effect or soon to be, so its essentially a done deal. The bigger deal are the small number of regulatory agencies permit requirement, which SpaceX may have been working with prior so they might get it soon as well, but its still a headache to deal with.

[Anonymous No.14569400]

>gib starlink

[Anonymous No.14569401]

>Funding the development and production of five interpretive signs (in English and Spanish) that describe the history and significance of the historic properties in the APE.
Thank GOD for the FAA, I can't imagine what would have happened if SpaceX had launched before producing five interprative signs.

[Anonymous No.14569404]

>>14569370
>$500millioon insurance
Holy fuck

[Anonymous No.14569405]

>>14569392
That is good, but lawsuits take time, it means NO LAUNCHES THIS FUCKING YEAR, MAYBE HALF 2023
FUCK THE FAA

[Anonymous No.14569407]

SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT TO THINK

[Anonymous No.14569409]

>>14569387
HOE-LEE FUCK GUYS THEY NEED TO PUT IN SIGNS? THAT'S ANOTHER 3 MONTHS RIGHT THERE! ITS OVER!!!!!

[Anonymous No.14569412]

imagine if all companies were held to this standard of community involvement and improvement

[Anonymous No.14569413]

>B-BUT THE SEA TURTLES

[Anonymous No.14569414]

>>14569229
That could work but they'd need huge numbers painted on the sides. For some reason that's very important for Futracool.

[Anonymous No.14569415]

>>14569393
>At least they didn’t get a EIS lol retard
OHHHH we are so lucky!!
We are not being raped by 30 niggers, just 29! HEYYYYYY

[Anonymous No.14569416]

>>14569196
I suppose it could be done for freight cars, but I doubt it would be practical to make a mechanism robust enough to handle the beating freight cars need to handle. It might be a moot point though, as when I made my original post about tilting, I forgot that passenger cars tilt for passenger comfort, not for train stability.

[Anonymous No.14569419]

>>14569407
Its really fucking bad
No launch this year
Expect to see oil rigs get rushed

[Anonymous No.14569420]

>>14569407
WE ARE GOIIING, FUCK DOOMERS

[Anonymous No.14569421]

>>14569415
>Racist
>Retard
Makes sense. Did you expect SpaceX to get a total greenlight? Fuckin idiot

[Anonymous No.14569422]

Doomposters really are retarded.

[Anonymous No.14569424]

>>14569389
Historical mitigations 3.7.5
>>14569404
>>$500millioon insurance
reminds me when I had to personally provide 1 million insurance just to do a software contract job. For an avionics organization.

[Anonymous No.14569425]

>>14569412
it would be very anti-semitic

[Anonymous No.14569426]

SpaceX would collaborate with USFWS to meet environmental education objectives.
To accomplish this goal, SpaceX will provide onsite Science, Technology,
Engineering, and Math based learning opportunities. SpaceX will host regular site
tours and one annual educational event for students in the Brownsville Independent
School District. On the site tours, SpaceX will educate the students on the sensitive
resources and habitat surrounding the SpaceX facilities. SpaceX would coordinate
with the USFWS on the information to be shared relevant to the sensitive resources
and habitat surrounding the SpaceX facilities. At the annual educational event,
SpaceX will invite USFWS, TPWD, and NPS to speak to the importance of studying
the Life and Physical Sciences.

[Anonymous No.14569427]

>>14569409
They could put the fucking signs in 15 mins, but until the boomers from FAA come and see and write a fucking report, it will take months.

[Anonymous No.14569429]

>>14569398
That's what diesel tanker trucks are for

[Anonymous No.14569430]

>>14569421
>>Racist
>>Retard
I see you are lost, Reddit is to the right.

[Anonymous No.14569432]

>>14569422
Anyone who pretends to be retarded as a joke can just be considered retarded outright.

[Anonymous No.14569433]

>>14569407
At first glance, most of the 75 stipulations can be solved in a matter of weeks, especially if done in parallel with a launch license application.

So far I've only sen kvetching over simple things (shuttle buses and signs), future expansion (Filling wetlands) and financial donations (annoying but not time consuming).

In essence, don't worry guys, everything will be ok!

[Anonymous No.14569434]

>>14569421
NOOOOOO! don't insult the poor niggerinos!

[Anonymous No.14569435]

>500 Mbps down, 40-50 up with this antenna
https://twitter.com/AirlineFlyer/status/1536345951354298368

10gb symmetric when?

[Anonymous No.14569436]

Musk had said he hoped to launch "in a month or two" like a few weeks to a month ago.

[Anonymous No.14569438]

https://nitter.net/ESGhound/status/1536411062152609795#
>This SpaceX PEA is hot garbage, as expected, but this part takes the cake. FAA cannot make a de minimus "non use" determination without written concurrence of the FWS. Sounds like they didn't get it. Incredible
Sloppy work. Lawsuits will make quick work of this

[Anonymous No.14569439]

>>14569424
Department of Transportation Act mitigations, over 4 pages

[Anonymous No.14569441]

>>14569436
Musk says a lot of things.

[Anonymous No.14569440]

>>14569421
you can't say that here, based anon, they're fragile people

[Anonymous No.14569444]

>>14569424
>this bumfuck nothing "historical battlefield" deserves special treatment and attention all of a sudden

God I fucking hate the THC

[Anonymous No.14569446]

>>14569327
Elections have consequences.

[Anonymous No.14569447]

>>14569438
why do people care about this retard? He's been wrong time and time again

[Anonymous No.14569448]

>>14569421
> not being racist on /sfg/
way to out yourself

[Anonymous No.14569449]

>>14569436
A man can always hope

[Anonymous No.14569450]

14569440
>replying to yourself this blatantly
jesus christ, go the fuck back

[Anonymous No.14569451]

>>14569424
This one is horrible
Some nigger could trash something then spacex would be forced to restore it

[Anonymous No.14569452]

>>14569447
Nobody does, its the same person spamming him whenever he's not being used as a lolcow

[Anonymous No.14569453]

>>14569439
Department of Transportation Act mitigations, page 2 of 5

[Anonymous No.14569454]

>>14569448
Victor Glover is a cool dude

[Anonymous No.14569457]

>>14569450
not the case, and I've been here longer than you :)

[Anonymous No.14569461]

>>14569433
See >>14569427
The fixes could be instant
Inspection and green ticks take months

[Anonymous No.14569462]

>>14569377
It's fun! XDD

It's over!!11!

XDDD

[Anonymous No.14569465]

>>14569453
Department of Transportation Act mitigations, page 3 of 5

[Anonymous No.14569466]

>mlk day
>cesar chevez day
>empancipation day
>womens day
what are these holidays america

[Anonymous No.14569468]

So basically spacex has to rebuild all of boca chica

[Anonymous No.14569469]

>>14569407
It's literally fucking over.

[Anonymous No.14569470]

>>14569466
Don't ask, we are a cucked country

[Anonymous No.14569471]

>>14569466
Ignored, mostly.

[Anonymous No.14569472]

>>14569448
Eight 1950's dollars is equivalent to almost $100 modern dollars.

[Anonymous No.14569473]

>>14569465
Department of Transportation Act mitigations, page 4 of 5

[Anonymous No.14569475]

Its happening again

[Anonymous No.14569476]

>>14569404
Elon:Hey Tesla Insurance, can you write a $500mil policy for Spacex?
>ELon:SUre No prob.
Elon: Thanks bud.

[Anonymous No.14569477]

>>14569461
This is nonsense, especially because most provide a specific timespan like "within 6 months of this report", so SpaceX can just keep going once they are up. Time will tell, but it's a broad assumption at this point.

[Anonymous No.14569478]

>>14569471
it says spacex is not allowed to have road closures on those days

[Anonymous No.14569479]

Who is going to step in and fight back against this blatant Earth-centrist corruption

[Anonymous No.14569482]

>>14569429
it's not possible

[Anonymous No.14569484]

>>14569461
>The fixes could be instant
>Inspection and green ticks take months
Exactly, that's what I said, SpaceX could have all done by tomorrow, but until the boomers from the FAA move their fat asses and write a report, and the other fat asses of the FAA in their desks take action, it will take months.
No
Flights
This
Year.

[Anonymous No.14569489]

>>14569475
Doesn't the document say that the increase in thrust to 72 MN leads to a 1 decibel increase in noise?

[Anonymous No.14569490]

>>14569478
Bullshit, those are not real holidays. MLK day is celebrated by teachers and mail carriers, nobody else. The others are made up wholecloth.

[Anonymous No.14569491]

>>14569473
you do realize you can post it in a single file if you use pdf instead of images

[Anonymous No.14569492]

>>14569466
>what are these holidays america
Where are the genderqueer and trannies day?

[Anonymous No.14569493]

>>14569484
Launch scheduled for 2 weeks out

[Anonymous No.14569497]

>>14569489
yes lol

[Anonymous No.14569498]

>>14569490
page S-32

>No SH 4 access restrictions on the following holidays: Memorial Day, Labor Day,
July 4th, MLK Day, Presidents’ Day, Texas Independence Day, Cesar Chavez Day,
Emancipation Day in Texas (also referred to as Juneteenth), Veteran’s Day,
Good Friday, Easter, Father’s Day, Mother’s Day, Thanksgiving Day, Christmas
Day, New Year’s Day (“Holidays”).

[Anonymous No.14569500]

>>14569491
Pdf has been posted already

[Anonymous No.14569504]

No launch this year
Not a chance

[Anonymous No.14569505]

>>14569473
Department of Transportation Act mitigations, page 5 of 5
>paragraph 15:
>SpaceX will provide STEM based learning opportunities
>SpaceX will host regular site tours
>and one annual educational event
>educate the students on... resources and habitats

[Anonymous No.14569508]

>>14569473
Thanks for posting screen caps anon.

[Anonymous No.14569509]

>>14569498
Damn, I was going to make a Juneteenth joke but once again reality beats sarcasm.

[Anonymous No.14569511]

>>14569498
>cesar chavez day
Fake, never even heard of this one
>juneteenth
Very Fake, b8 holiday
>religious holidays
C'mon now
The rest are real holidays but you don't need to close the road for every single one of them. Father's day and Mother's day? Really? Whoever wrote this needs to be shot.

[Anonymous No.14569513]

>>14569482
why isn't it possible

[Anonymous No.14569516]

Party tonight at Starbase ;)

[Anonymous No.14569518]

>>14569505
Water mitigations page 1 of 2

[Anonymous No.14569521]

>>14569363
I'M RIDIN WITH BIDEN AFTER THIS
THANK YOU JOE THANK YOU FOR BELIEVING IN A BRIGHT FUTURE

[Anonymous No.14569524]

>>14569438
>>14569475
>>14569447

[Anonymous No.14569525]

>>14569518
Water mitigations 3.9.5 page 2 of 2

[Anonymous No.14569526]

NSF is sugarcoating this hard

[Anonymous No.14569527]

most of these can be finished in two or three months 2bh

[Anonymous No.14569531]

Good news is Raptor 2 has now switched to commercial grade LNG rather than refined LNG. This means no need for water salination, no need for refinery, no need for powerplant for the refinery, etc. It also means cheaper fuel for SpaceX and more readily available commercial fuel.

[Anonymous No.14569533]

For everyone who is mad, what did you want? It’s disappointing how angry everyone is.

[Anonymous No.14569535]

>>14569436
he said that 3 years ago too

[Anonymous No.14569538]

>>14569525
Last one from me, biological resources mitigations are 9+ pages; so just the first here.

[Anonymous No.14569540]

>>14569533
Disbanded FAA, unlimited launch license

[Anonymous No.14569541]

>>14569533
I was gonna be angry no matter what, because that's what I chose beforehand :)

[Anonymous No.14569543]

>>14569538
No one cares about this shit FAA, I hate regulatory busy bodies

[Anonymous No.14569545]

>>14569527
So september.
And then the FAA has to check that the mitigations have taken place, write reports, and give the OK
And then, and only then, SpaceX can apply for launches.
NO. LAUNCHES. THIS. YEAR.

[Anonymous No.14569547]

>>14569513
it's just not

[Anonymous No.14569549]

>>14569531
>LNG
lurk more

[Anonymous No.14569550]

>>14569533
I don't want bureaucrats and politicians to ruin everything
A constitutional amendment that removes citizenship from elected officials political appointees and re-designates them as a nuisance species would be nice, too

[Anonymous No.14569551]

>>14569545
and then it blows up and it takes another decade to rebuild stage 0

[Anonymous No.14569554]

>>14569545
yeah, probably

[Anonymous No.14569555]

>>14569541
based angery anon

[Anonymous No.14569556]

Fully reusable employee shuttles

[Anonymous No.14569557]

>>14569550
>elected officials and* political appointees

[Anonymous No.14569558]

>>14569545
Funny how they were able to launch shit left and right just a couple years ago, there seemed to be a lot less standing in the way on a daily basis then.

[Anonymous No.14569561]

>>14569505
>ayo gibsmedat
I fucking hate buttgrug.

[Anonymous No.14569562]

>>14569280
GET FUCKED ESG

[Anonymous No.14569566]

>>14569558
See
>>14569307

[Anonymous No.14569570]

[Anonymous No.14569571]

>>14569505
>SpaceX will provide STEM based learning opportunities
Are they a school now? That's retarded, they don't need to provide this shit, they make rockets.

[Anonymous No.14569573]

>>14569547
Why not you fucking piece of shit retard faggot nigger?

[Anonymous No.14569575]

>>14569538
>SpaceX would incorporate raptor protection measures into project design
>raptor
Can't let them get loose.
Seriously, though, with all these mitigations, the site must end up being the cleanest in the USA.

[Anonymous No.14569577]

For those spazing out about the 5 launches, this was know since early last year.

[Anonymous No.14569579]

>>14569571
>Are they a school now? That's retarded, they don't need to provide this shit, they make rockets.
Gib reparishions nao.

[Anonymous No.14569583]

Why do so many of the "shall" things in this have little or nothing to do with safety or environmental protection, why does it seem like every local member of every agency decided to do their best to stick their finger in the pie

[Anonymous No.14569584]

>>14569579
The only proper response is "fuck off". Starbase tours kind of make sense I guess but why's the FAA get to order a company to provide tours of itself? Again they should get told to fuck themselves.

[Anonymous No.14569585]

>>14569571
They're already partnering with Texas Universities for engineers and Boca students with highschool tours/engineering learning experience. They're already doing it.

Most of the measures are things SpaceX already does and have incorporated it already. So its just officially made as part of the actions SpaceX has taken already to educate the greater community.

[Anonymous No.14569586]

I guess the good news is that most of the mitigations require SpaceX saying
>Uh ok sure lol

[Anonymous No.14569589]

>>14569583
because they did, cause that's what they always do
they showed immeasurable restraint in not straight up demanding SpaceX pay them bribes

[Anonymous No.14569591]

>>14569583
>why does it seem like every local member of every agency decided to do their best to stick their finger in the pie
lol fucking this, can't wait for someone to make a video pointing out all this decidedly non-environmental and safety bullshit terms forced on them

[Anonymous No.14569594]

Astra stock is at $1.50.

[Anonymous No.14569595]

>>14569577
now its 5 launches only, not even developmental

[Anonymous No.14569596]

>>14569584
the tours are specifically for students of brownsville to educate them on the habitat

[Anonymous No.14569597]

>>14569583
stop being a conspiracy theorist

[Anonymous No.14569598]

>>14569591
We need CostPlusContent now more than ever.

[Anonymous No.14569599]

>>14569594
BUY BUY BUY FOMO NOW

[Anonymous No.14569600]

>>14569533
Doomposters shitposting =/= everyone is mad. The ESG Hound crowd took a massive L today.

[Anonymous No.14569602]

>>14569589
Bet you bribes would have been preferable, this is all meaningless busywork

[Anonymous No.14569603]

>>14569595
it's 5 suborbital and 5 orbital

[Anonymous No.14569604]

>>14569598
Where did he go, bros? I miss /ourguy/ ;~;

[Anonymous No.14569605]

>>14569603
they don't need suborbital anymore do they

so just 5 orbital, total, yearly.

Almost not even worth it

[Anonymous No.14569606]

>>14569600
Everyone lost here today, all save the eternal jew whom only cares for suffering for sufferings sake

[Anonymous No.14569610]

>SpaceX is still considering whether to use deluge water for the launch pad, but, in the event it will, it has decided that it will use truck water, rather than a desalination plant. A desalination plant is not in the reasonably foreseeable future.

What the fuck what else are they gonna use if not water

[Anonymous No.14569611]

>>14569603
and those are the number SpaceX asked for, not mandated by the FAA
>>14569605
the test that they're planning that comes down near hawaii is suborbital. I don't think there are any concrete orbital test plans at the moment.

[Anonymous No.14569616]

>>14569610
>What the fuck what else are they gonna use if not water
Nothing. You don't actually need a water deluge system if you design your pad for it.

[Anonymous No.14569618]

>>14569573

[Anonymous No.14569619]

>>14569606
You are like a child. SpaceX could’ve gotten a full EIS. It was known they’d need mitigations with their FONSI anyways.

[Anonymous No.14569622]

>Modified the Raptor engine and engine configuration. SpaceX increased the thrust of the Raptor
engine; therefore, SpaceX has reduced the total number of engines. This change would not
constitute any discernable changes in environmental impacts. An increase from 61.7
meganewtons (MN) to 74 MN would result in a less than 1 decibel change and would constitute
a negligible change to the noise contours.

lol ESG Hound thought he was being such a fucking genius pointing out how Raptor 2 is more powerful now and sound levels needs updating and in reality its just a 1db increase lmao

What a fucking retard, making mountains out of a molehill

[Anonymous No.14569628]

>>14569622
>another (((skeptic))) turns out to be a retard
What a surprise

[Anonymous No.14569629]

14569619
and you're a blatant redditor that has no business being on this site
to claim that the vast ungodly spread of mitigations and extra paperwork fuckery was in any way legitimate is dishonest

[Anonymous No.14569633]

>>14569629
A lot of it is illegitimate dumbass, I’m just saying we should be happy with what we got. This isn’t a total win like HLS or something but it’s more like SN9 where it went ok-ish

[Anonymous No.14569634]

I'm happy

[Anonymous No.14569636]

>>14569629
He's just as clueless as CSS, no wonder they teamed up, team sneed (formerly chucks)

[Anonymous No.14569637]

>>14569622
Did SpaceX actually decrease the number of engines though? They went from 29 on B4 to 33 on B7. Was there some intermediate design where they were planning on having over 40 Raptor 1s or something?

[Anonymous No.14569643]

>>14569634
FUCK YOU

[Anonymous No.14569645]

Sierra Club's status
>seething

[Anonymous No.14569646]

>>14569637
In 2019 and 2020 they wanted 37

[Anonymous No.14569647]

>>14569637
37 engines was the original proposed for booster. Prototype boosters have gone from 29-33. They have a margin.

[Anonymous No.14569651]

>>14569629
Concerned trolling is what these fucks do.

[Anonymous No.14569652]

>>14569400
How is this appropriate?
Seems like extortion
I want to buy a car, but the seller wants to fuck my wife or i cant buy it, lol

[Anonymous No.14569654]

>>14569634
me too :)

[Anonymous No.14569659]

>>14569651
>>14569636
>>14569629
Fuck you guys I’m just saying this is a good thing and you’re the one who want to complain and doompost about it.

[Anonymous No.14569660]

>>14569634
same

[Anonymous No.14569664]

Somehow the FAA has found a way to make everyone mad

[Anonymous No.14569665]

>>14569659
Why are you sneeding me, don't feed me again, Chuck.

[Anonymous No.14569669]

>>14569426
These seem just so fucking random and outside the scope of what would be expected of any other company in other fields
Why dont mining companies have to do this? Upkeep some random ass historic site that haåpens to be near the site, or have some mandated commu ity outreach and tours
What the fuck

[Anonymous No.14569678]

>>14569438
What is the fws?

[Anonymous No.14569684]

weak

[Anonymous No.14569687]

>>14569646
>>14569647
thnx anons

[Anonymous No.14569691]

Come home, white man.

[Anonymous No.14569692]

>>14569352
>Where do I sign up to be SpaceX's official historian?
Closest you'll get is probably https://www.spacex.com/careers/?department=Environmental%2520Health%2520and%2520Safety

You *do* want to clean up after beetles for 60 hours a week, right?

[Anonymous No.14569693]

>>14569684
enough for now. either abandon site after this year or apply for eis immediately
doomers will not make it

[Anonymous No.14569694]

>>14569691
Apparently sea launch needs it own approvals

[Anonymous No.14569695]

>>14569684
>>14569684
I'm deducing the 5, 5, 10, and 5 are all minutes?

[Anonymous No.14569697]

>>14569694
LANDINGS too, this is so fucking cucked, regulations will hamper commercial spaceflight

[Anonymous No.14569698]

>>14569695
>I'm deducing the 5, 5, 10, and 5 are all minutes?

[Anonymous No.14569703]

>>14569697
>at sites not described in this document

[Anonymous No.14569705]

>>14569533
I rhought there would be like 5 general mitigations instead of this 20 page list with everything and anything possible they could come up with that have absolutely nothing to do with actually launching rockets
Upkeeping a historic site? School tours? Having to pay and provide a starlink to some random enviromental organization? What in the actual fuck is this

[Anonymous No.14569707]

>>14569698
They're the number of launches, retard.

[Anonymous No.14569708]

>>14569695
Smartest man on /sci/ who doesn’t post in /sfg/

[Anonymous No.14569712]

>>14569705
SpaceX must pay their tithes to the ESG mafia

[Anonymous No.14569713]

Artemis missions need 12-16 Starship flights to work. Where will they launch from?

[Anonymous No.14569715]

>>14569713
the cape, as was always the plan

[Anonymous No.14569718]

>>14569713
It's over

[Anonymous No.14569719]

>>14569707
meant to reply to >>14569695
of course

[Anonymous No.14569720]

>>14569713
Pretty sure artemis mission needs 100+ Starship flights to work. Its overtly complex

[Anonymous No.14569722]

>all the cope already about SpaceX not needing the methane plant anymore being framed as victory for environmentalists and SpaceX lying and that they'll still need it and now they can't have it so Starship is dead

[Anonymous No.14569724]

>>14569713
You know they can apply to extend and expand operations at Starbase, right?

[Anonymous No.14569725]

>>14569611
> the test that they're planning that comes down near hawaii is suborbital. I don't think there are any concrete orbital test plans at the moment

Didnt think about that, i wonder how the FAA defines an orbital flight?

[Anonymous No.14569730]

How can they do this? This is outrageous, its unfair...

[Anonymous No.14569731]

>>14569634
Its a mixed bag

[Anonymous No.14569734]

>>14569713
Only 5 launches a year sweety, not my problem

[Anonymous No.14569735]

>>14569722
>"Alright... taking a breather here on SpaceX for a bit. All of the natural gas infrastructure, which was my primary focus from day one, is gone. Legal hurdles are bound to be numerous, so get your "Cope and seethes" in below. Post later this week with potential hurdles as I see em"
>so get your "Cope and seethes" in below

[Anonymous No.14569741]

>>14569731
Oh please, pretty much all of this shit is either short-term that can be done in like a month and the rest of it is long-term commitment crap like letting the high school tour the facility and giving money to different organizations. It's a lot of stuff, sure, but it isn't a lot stuff that is also very hard and will necessitate years long work.

[Anonymous No.14569743]

>>14569712
Fuck shit fuck aaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Anonymous No.14569744]

>>14569705
I know. I'm surprised there aren't stipulations for funding for 24/7/365 interpretive dance to raise awareness of the suffering of the neolithic aboriginal menstruating persons that once occupied these lands, or a similarly non-stop troop of booty shakers that would run in shifts ensuring that workers at Boca Chica have their thinking decolonised and their privilege checked by the spectacle of two dozen black asses twerking suggestively in perpetuity

[Anonymous No.14569746]

All the spacex is finished fluff online specifically from fags like ESGhound is basically just an anti-musk demoralisation campaign carried out by oil and gas companies, legacy automakers, Bezos, and others. Buying into it makes you a faggot. Just look at ESGHound and how he frames his disagreements (he works for kinder morgan) and remember that ESG is and INVESTMENT guide.
The reason it’s not more intense is that SpaceX isn’t publicly traded. Look at the massive disinformation and demoralisation against Tesla and electric cars and now even solar panels.

[Anonymous No.14569749]

>>14569724
They can, but I imagine it would take forever to get approval.

[Anonymous No.14569750]

>>14569698
>>14569707
>>14569708
hehehe

[Anonymous No.14569753]

>>14569741
Its extortion and beyond what the FAA should be able to mandate
Why dont they just say elon has to suck their dick amd donate 10mil to each FAA employee? Wtf
These things might be easy but it still seems like massive overreach

[Anonymous No.14569754]

>>14569744
> two dozen black asses twerking suggestively in perpetuity
I need to work at Starbase ASAP

[Anonymous No.14569757]

it's 10 launches a year

[Anonymous No.14569758]

>>14569757
cope

[Anonymous No.14569761]

>>14569744
In 10 years with the currwnt trajectory there very well might have

[Anonymous No.14569763]

>>14569753
It’s essentially how the FAA is getting the other groups to shut up and let it happen. Notice how the handouts and time and little bullshit is going through other organisations?

[Anonymous No.14569767]

>>14569761
US is going to be a failed state in 10 years with the current trajectory

[Anonymous No.14569768]

Any beetle specific regulations? Asking for a friend.

[Anonymous No.14569769]

>>14569753
I doubt Elon gives a shit. This is just the pound of flesh that the FAA wants. I am of the mind that he'll want to get more launches in at Starbase sooner rather than later, and so throwing a hissy fit over shit that is this inconsequential is probably not the smart move. All he's gotta do is take a knee and let his minions take smooth all of these things out for him.

[Anonymous No.14569770]

>>14569763
I doubt they will shut up, as the point is to delay and hinder spacex and elon, not some conservation of birds

[Anonymous No.14569773]

>>14569768
no, the word "beetle" doesn't even show up

[Anonymous No.14569774]

>>14569769
Yeah, still aggravating

[Anonymous No.14569778]

>>14569773
Beetlebros.... I...

[Anonymous No.14569782]

SpaceX should just move their launches to Mexico.

[Anonymous No.14569783]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGQbAcDYisA

Are you autistic enough to be this excited?

[Anonymous No.14569785]

>>14569770
Tard
Miss when this general was majority engineers and at least enthusiasts and not mostly /pol/ washouts using shilling for spaceflight to give their sad lives meaning

[Anonymous No.14569789]

>>14569782
They’re going to launch ICBMs at Mexico after they cut off power to my house and force me to eat shit

[Anonymous No.14569793]

>>14569782
elon would unironically be assassinated by the CIA if he tried to move his rocket program to another country

[Anonymous No.14569797]

>>14569783
>spacex roastie girl.jpg
ftfy, women are a plague and I cannot wait for the day robots replace f*moids

[Anonymous No.14569800]

>>14567794
>why yes, a 20% success rate is good

[Anonymous No.14569807]

>>14569773
I'm genuinely sad about this ;_;

[Anonymous No.14569810]

>>14569783
That "girl" is just trying to make money, at one point she was covering the progress of Nikola before normies finally realized it was a scam and Trevor Milton was arrested for fraud.

[Anonymous No.14569814]

>>14569810
Lot of big shots were conned. Even GM was conned.

[Anonymous No.14569816]

Is astranon ok? Do you still have a job?

[Anonymous No.14569821]

>>14569713
Their SSSH Cape Canaveral site they've been building. Chill

[Anonymous No.14569825]

Would SpaceX have anything to gain from doing a suborbital flight of a Superheavy alone with 5-10 engines to test the launch mount, clamps, etc? Also Raptor 2 has zero flight data

[Anonymous No.14569827]

Reminder, SpaceX will build out two of the oil rigs for launch AND catching capability. So they can launch hundreds more from just 5-10 miles away.

[Anonymous No.14569831]

I doubt oil rigs will be finished before the factory and launch site at Cape.

[Anonymous No.14569832]

>>14569825
No.

[Anonymous No.14569834]

Expect the water deluge system to be scraped kek

[Anonymous No.14569837]

>>14569825
Don't need flight data, also controlling Starship is more difficult than controlling the Booster during return due to the Booster having a much longer moment arm and simpler aerodynamic properties than Starship.

[Anonymous No.14569841]

>>14569834
water deluge systems for rocket launches are a scam by big hydro

[Anonymous No.14569842]

>SpaceX will have their own Space Shuttle

[Anonymous No.14569852]

People are saying that the vast majority of the mitigations are either already “in-progress” or are just as simple as SpaceX paying other people money. I do wonder what the big ones are?

[Anonymous No.14569855]

>>14569852
The big ones are just permits, which they're likely already working with those agencies. So they're probably a non issue.

[Anonymous No.14569856]

>>14569852
Probably the one where SpaceX literally has to write a book report about Texas history.

[Anonymous No.14569861]

>>14569856
That’s hilarious. This is arguably the most bizzare document approval ever

[Anonymous No.14569863]

>>14569856
Sounds like a job for interns.

[Anonymous No.14569864]

>>14569852
yeah vast majority seem to be super easy like paying 5k to environmentalist organizations, hiring a biologist or setting up some street signs

big ones are obviously those that require additional permits and are out of their hands

[Anonymous No.14569866]

In case you think I am full of shit:

>Preparing a historical context report (i.e., historical narrative) of the historic events and activities of the Mexican War (1846–1848) and the Civil War (1861–1865) that took place in the geographic area associated with and including the Area of Potential Effects (APE).

[Anonymous No.14569867]

>>14569834
>>14569841
Sound energy will worsen, effect will be worse on stage zero, SuperHeavy and the spectators and S. Padre Isle, in their autism to preserve the water salinity of the area, they will make it worse for everyone else (actual humans) and not the environment

May a freshwater hurricane dump 100,000 gallons of fresh water across the wetlands there so it will never be saline again.

[Anonymous No.14569873]

>>14569866
Wow... a ten slide power point. SpaceX is done, there's no more 5th graders to hire to write a school report!

[Anonymous No.14569874]

>>14569306
They already filed for this over a year ago. They've got the plans and everything with the corps of engineers.

[Anonymous No.14569881]

>>14569652
Welcome to what environmentalism really is: grifters looking for handouts.

[Anonymous No.14569885]

I wonder how long the environmental review will take when trying to launch from the oil rigs, I just hope they don't limit the number of launches, otherwise there'll be no other place on this planet to launch from.

[Anonymous No.14569886]

>>14568979
linearly

[Anonymous No.14569890]

>>14569885
at that point dropping roggs on DC would be the only reasonable choice

[Anonymous No.14569893]

>>14569885
I honestly think it’ll be an EIS

[Anonymous No.14569894]

>>14567542
>Astra - Rocket 3.3: SLC-46, Florida. TROPICS 3 + 4. NASA CubeSat constellation, flight attempt #2.
On hold until investigations is done

[Anonymous No.14569895]

>>14569885
Not sure what sort of environmental review could be done with the oil rigs since they'll be in international waters. On the border, of course, but still international.

[Anonymous No.14569899]

https://mobile.twitter.com/FAANews/status/1536415607460986880

> The FAA will require @SpaceX to take steps that reduce beach and park closures, and to protect fish, wildlife, plants and other environmental resources in Boca Chica TX. #FAASpace

[Anonymous No.14569901]

I’m assessing the environment.

[Anonymous No.14569903]

>>14569899
Yes, they outline what those are in the report. It's a nothing burger.

[Anonymous No.14569906]

Is it normal for a company to have to do so much stuff or is this a special case

[Anonymous No.14569909]

>>14569906
Normal-ish.

[Anonymous No.14569910]

>>14569906
It is when they decide to build in the worst place possible

[Anonymous No.14569912]

>>14569903
I wonder how writing a school report about some battle that took place 200 years ago is going to help wildlife, lmao

[Anonymous No.14569913]

>>14569906
Its a private company effort to make a space port, so its different from a NASA/Federal owned launch site.

[Anonymous No.14569914]

>>14569910
Where the fuck else were they supposed to build, you loon. Fucking Arizona?

[Anonymous No.14569915]

>>14569899
>reduce beach and park closures
and
>protect fish, wildlife, plants and other environmental resources
contradict each other, it's like they don't even know what they want

[Anonymous No.14569917]

>>14569910
There are no better place. Florida's launch site is threatned by NASA's need for ISS launch capability and delays regarding other launch providers.

California cant launch east into the populated area.

[Anonymous No.14569918]

>>14569906
I don't know about other environmental reviews, but it's not like there are many experimental super-heavy class rocket development facilities out there. I'm sure a lot of stuff was pretty unique.

[Anonymous No.14569921]

>>14569856
Doesn't sound that bad.

[Anonymous No.14569923]

>>14569914
they probably could have gone a couple miles up the coast and found a spot without a nature preserve right next door

[Anonymous No.14569925]

>>14569903
>>14569899
The holiday closures seem like complete nothingburger but there were two interesting things buried there
One was that SpaceX will look into building a second route down to the beach to avoid normal operations causing closures
Two was that from labor day to Memorial Day they can’t close the access during the weekend - though 5 times a year they can ask to and then cancel that request within 24hrs notice and not lose one of those 5 weekend closures

[Anonymous No.14569926]

>>14569749
They'd better fucking start now, then

[Anonymous No.14569930]

>>14569915
The "reduced closures" thing just means the beaches need to stay open for national holidays.

[Anonymous No.14569932]

>>14569923
They literally couldn’t have. I know you’re trolling but it’s always shocking to me that people push this narrative when they picked literally the only part of the Texas coast where they could have done this

[Anonymous No.14569933]

>>14569926
elon isn't tweeting so

[Anonymous No.14569935]

>>14569925
>One was that SpaceX will look into building a second route down to the beach to avoid normal operations causing closures

This is a good thing and I am glad that the FAA are finally making them do it. It should have been done like two years ago when the locals started complaining. Building a road that isn't going to see heavy industry on it is basically nothing in the grand scheme of things.

[Anonymous No.14569938]

>>14569906
Pretty normal actually for the size
t. knows an environmental lawyer

The fundamental idea is that you're allowed to do things people don't llike if you're willing to offset them. For example, SpaceX is allowed to say
>Trying to make the mother of all omelets Jack, can't worry about every (turtle) egg
Given that they prove that they're making reasonable accomodations and provide monetary compensation for whatever damage they're causing.
I'm middle of the road on how long this takes, we may not see a launch this year, but it could be very early next year. Who knows. I kind of expected worse but this is still isn't perfect, wetlands may be a relatively big deal.

>>14569932
Arguably the only place in the world they could have built the launch site. It has to be in America for national security reasons, and there's nowhere else other than Florida with a clear shot to the east over water and a southerly latitude.

[Anonymous No.14569943]

>>14569938
If you’re talking about the 404 thing apparently that only matters if they build the deluge system

[Anonymous No.14569942]

>>14569938
>wetlands may be a relatively big deal.

A couple of people here have said that they got ahead of the wetlands thing and did all the paperwork last year and now are working with engineers to put the plan into motion.

[Anonymous No.14569945]

>>14569932
source on that? Seems like there's plenty of coast that doesn't have nature preserves nearby

[Anonymous No.14569946]

>>14569923
we have nature preserves all up and down the texas coast, i can think of upwards of a dozen in my area alone

[Anonymous No.14569949]

SpaceX should just make a Boring Tunnel and dig from South Padre to the beach. Or just offer some ferrying capabilities. That way access to beach is still there and road closures are mitigated.

[Anonymous No.14569950]

>>14569901
How many Sieverts to clear a wetland of all plant and animal life?

[Anonymous No.14569951]

>>14569343
Devilishly worded

[Anonymous No.14569955]

>>14569899
Beetlebros....We won!

[Anonymous No.14569957]

>>14569945
That map doesn’t show that every mile of coast north of BC has an inhabited island just off the coast lmao. Look at a more detailed map, BC is the first point without a barrier island and they’re all populated and/or nature reserves

[Anonymous No.14569959]

>>14569914
Duluth, of course. It is the /sfg/-approved american spaceport.

[Anonymous No.14569960]

>>14569894
I would not expect us to return to flight this month. LV0011 is still in the factory.

[Anonymous No.14569961]

>>14569935
MUH WETLANDS NOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.14569962]

>>14569960
>us
Astranon....how do you feel about the failure?

[Anonymous No.14569963]

>>14569960
Astraanon I think your CEO should be shot and your assets auctioned off.

[Anonymous No.14569964]

>>14569945
The area also has to be uninhabited.

[Anonymous No.14569966]

>>14569961
>environmentalists DEMAND a review for muh beetles
>review determines that the beetles must be destroyed by law

[Anonymous No.14569967]

>>14569961
At least pretend to know what people are talking about before you reply to a post

[Anonymous No.14569971]

>>14569885
launch from international waters, checkmate.

[Anonymous No.14569972]

>>14569960
It was funny the Get Woke Go Boom Astra meme but now i fell bad for Anon. I guess you are fairly smart if you are working in space related stuff, so things will get better eventually.

[Anonymous No.14569975]

>>14569971
you still need to get FAA approval

[Anonymous No.14569976]

https://twitter.com/ESGhound/status/1536429514527588353
>Alright... taking a breather here on SpaceX for a bit. All of the natural gas infrastructure, which was my primary focus from day one, is gone. Legal hurdles are bound to be numerous, so get your "Cope and seethes" in below. Post later this week with potential hurdles as I see em
kek, he won't give up

[Anonymous No.14569977]

WHEN LAUNCH LICENSE?

[Anonymous No.14569978]

>>14569962
I'm still mad. There's some stupid fucking issue with the upper stage fuel system and if they can't find and fix it we're hosed because the Rocket 4 upper stage is basically the same thing but scaled up a bit.

[Anonymous No.14569980]

>>14569978
Astra anon when you lose your job because astra folds what are you gonna do?

[Anonymous No.14569983]

>>14569535
No

[Anonymous No.14569989]

>>14569976
Who even is this?

[Anonymous No.14569990]

guys i am elated. the whole document is a nothingburger timeline-wise.
we gon' make it

[Anonymous No.14569991]

In theory, I have to wonder if SpaceX would get in trouble if SuperHeavy was topped off enough to get Starship to get the entire stack to 20km, where it stages and then Starship burns the rest of the way to orbit to do payload delivery and back down--and if that would then violate the proposed launch #s. 5 launches otherwise is still 500 Starlink Gen2 satellites to LEO. Falcon 9 can do 25T to LEO. By mass volume grading, that's a mere 20 Gen2 sats per launch (ignoring that they can't fit inside the fairing at all for a moment). That means it would take them 25 Falcon 9 launches to get the same upload capacity as 5 test Starship launches assuming full success on each launch. But let's assume only 3 of the 5 are successful, so 300 Gen2s to orbit. That's still... the equivalent of 15 Falcon 9 launches offset. Plus, the monetary gain of those 300 Gen2s with them being 10x on average better than Gen1 is pretty big. It may delay some things in Boca Chica by 1-2 years, but 300 Gen2s could easily buy that 1-2 year delay in revenue from those new satellites.
Right now the biggest threat to SpaceX is that while its worth a lot, its not in control of its own destiny. It still has to periodically raise money, unlike Tesla which now has over $18Bn in cash/cash equivalents on hand and <$100M debt on books despite being worth $700Bn+ in the market. They never ever have to raise any money again and are free from market effects. End of 2022, they'll have ~$30-32Bn in cash/cash equivalents, end of 2023 they're expected to have ~$45-48Bn cash/cash equivalents, and so on.
Until SpaceX reaches that point, and the way they get there is through Starlink profitability, there'll always be a sword of Domacales over their head. But once they can break away from needing to raise money and be fully self-sufficient with exponential increases in cash on hand YoY, then we can truly see some absolutely crazy shit come out of SpaceX. They're still playing the game rather conservatively I think.

[Anonymous No.14569992]

>>14569989
Oil & Gas shill, TSLAQ fag

[Anonymous No.14569993]

>>14569990
it's 2 or 3 months

[Anonymous No.14569994]

>>14569978
Imagine fucking up a pressure fed engine.

[Anonymous No.14569996]

>>14569989
Eric Roesch

[Anonymous No.14569998]

>>14569629
they're gaslighting lowlifes

[Anonymous No.14570003]

Any anons feeling risky and gonna buy the Astra dip? For some reason despite an 8/10 failure rate I feel like they could pull through.

[Anonymous No.14570007]

>>14569978
Maybe your employer should spend less time putting a flag on the pad, and focus more on the issues that matter.

[Anonymous No.14570009]

>>14570003
I might buy a bit and gamble on them succeeding on the next two tropics and then sell immediately after
It’s a When not If question on the company going under

[Anonymous No.14570010]

>>14570003
never bet on virtue signalling
always bet on vice

[Anonymous No.14570016]

>>14570003
if you choose to do so, follow the iron clad rule of trading
Never bet what you can't afford to lose

[Anonymous No.14570019]

>>14570003
It could be worth throwing in ten bucks for the laughs.
Like betting on the ponies, you don't really go in expecting to win but having some skin in the game makes it way more fun.

I'd really like an /sfg/ prediction market, half of you say the absolute dumbest shit and it'd nice to force people to publically lock in their predictions.

[Anonymous No.14570021]

They're still mad about SN11 lmao

>have 15,000 good acres
>sperg out like retards about 20 acres mildly disturbed

[Anonymous No.14570023]

>>14570016
Oh, I thought the iron clad rule was
Always bet the same as the guys controlling the prices

[Anonymous No.14570026]

>>14569945
So you're suggesting that they launch between Corpus Christi and Houston? Even that area is too northern and mid-inclination launches would massive dogleg maneuver to avoid overflying Florida. Boca Chica is already less than ideal as a launch site but they have few options without leaving the country.
>>14570019
Go back

[Anonymous No.14570028]

>>14570019
Surely it’s legal to bet on this kind of thing. It would be really fun to run through a betting hall

[Anonymous No.14570029]

I like environmental and historical site laws. HIstorical sites and the environment should be protected for future generations.

But why the fuck do they have to twist everything with blatant overreach. When we say that there should be environmental laws forbidding companies from destroying nature wholesale, it doesn't mean holding the progress of Starship over fucking beetles and water salinity. Fucking earthers man. All these special interest groups are using this to get their gibs.

[Anonymous No.14570031]

>>14570003
>he bought?

[Anonymous No.14570035]

>>14570019
If you really want to pretend to be Japanese, you should jump off a building, jump in front of an express train or cut your fucking guts out with a knife. If you get someone else to post pics of the results you'll get all the positive attention you always craved.

[Anonymous No.14570036]

>>14570035
Relax

[Anonymous No.14570038]

>>14570029
>that captcha
kek

[Anonymous No.14570040]

>>14570028
It isn't, funny money only because the US is run by babies. I'd be fine with a paper market since at this scale the number of predictions is more important and I can't see a cash market working, but of course if you're not using money you're not really playing.

Metaculus exists I guess but it kind of sucks.
Or manifold, maybe.

[Anonymous No.14570041]

Oh shit it's really gonna happen.

[Anonymous No.14570042]

>>14570035
you seem sane

[Anonymous No.14570043]

[Anonymous No.14570049]

>>14570043
They should just put up nesting boxes in places away from their base so birds are deferred there.

[Anonymous No.14570052]

>>14570035

[Anonymous No.14570058]

>>14570035
Most sane anti

[Anonymous No.14570062]

1/3 of a full thing, here's a quick look at about Luna 1 and Pioneer IV in the midst on 1959.
In the image are future spaceships which were expected to be developed by the US.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1HiP2AK5tB3BZUcPtSNJwV6Pfgel-QGnk?usp=sharing

>Above we have averted the curtain of the future and taken a peek at what space rockets of the near future will look like. The first on the left "Scout" (18,000 kN thrust) uses solid propellants, which may significantly lower its cost. Perhaps as soon as 1962, the 3-stage giant "Saturn", which has a first stage thrust of 800,000 kN, and which may be able to take supplies to the first researchers on the Moon. The next step has only single-chamber, though it is equally powerful, which in 1970 will be developed to be the multichambered, 3,000,000 kN "Vega" rocket (second from the right). Around 1970 we may have the first ion-spraying engine, which as the final frontier in space propulsion can take spacecraft to the edges of our solar system (third from the right). Nuclear rockets, which utilize uranium as their reactors' fuel, should be ready around 1975 to carry payloads which other rocket types can't.

[Anonymous No.14570069]

>>14570035
>t.

[Anonymous No.14570074]

https://www.faa.gov/sites/faa.gov/files/2022-06/Appendix_I_Responses_to_PublicComments_0.pdf

The majority of the public comments submitted during the public comment period were non‐
substantive comments (i.e., comments that expressed a non‐substantive personal preference or
opinion not tied to a
I‐1
specific topic) or non‐germane comments (i.e., comments outside the scope of the Proposed Action). The
FAA acknowledges all comments received and thanks the commenters for their input

[Anonymous No.14570076]

>>14570009
Yeah that's the sad reality of it. The vision is good but the management just isn't there.
>>14570016
Of course, anon.
>>14570019
I mean it's a buck a share, not gonna lose much. That's also a cool idea.
>>14570031
Waiting before the next launch.

[Anonymous No.14570077]

>Placing temporary construction barriers around the Palmetto Pilings Historical Marker during construction.
kek

[Anonymous No.14570083]

>>14570074
CCS BTFO

[Anonymous No.14570084]

>>14570083
but also all the supporters

[Anonymous No.14570086]

[Anonymous No.14570089]

>>14570035
Japan's suicide rate is lower than the USA's

[Anonymous No.14570090]

>>14570086
Are you really going to derail the thread over this

[Anonymous No.14570099]

MUH OZONE LAYER
MUH CLIMATE CHANGE
MUH METHANE

All BTFO you love to see it

[Anonymous No.14570101]

>>14570041
so orbital launches == launches with superheavy?
according to this the first full stack launch would be orbital as well even if starship doesnt technically complete a full orbit

[Anonymous No.14570106]

So uh... when will starship do an orbital test?

[Anonymous No.14570107]

>>14570090
He's a deranged faggot so probably.

[Anonymous No.14570108]

>>14569856
lmao

[Anonymous No.14570109]

>>14570099
Reminds me of when Concorde got tons of mail form concerned citizens because their jets flew in the lower parts of the ozone layer and the hole in the ozone layer was just discovered

[Anonymous No.14570110]

The FAA report both pisses on SpaceX and then steps in to defend them at random intervals.

[Anonymous No.14570111]

>>14570099
Wait they published responses to specific comments?

[Anonymous No.14570112]

>>14570035
Most based poster on /sci/

[Anonymous No.14570113]

>>14569959
Unfathomably based, when are we sending more scouts?

[Anonymous No.14570115]

Why don't Air Force or Space Force step in and demand that SpaceX needs a launch licence because of national security reasons? They definitely want the capabilities that Starship offers.

[Anonymous No.14570119]

>>14570111

[Anonymous No.14570122]

>>14570077
I hope they just build a cuck box around it and leave it there

[Anonymous No.14570128]

>>14570041
Do I misremember or was Elon saying orbital or bust earlier?

[Anonymous No.14570129]

>>14570115
DoT is part of the executive branch and the military has no authority over it whatsoever

[Anonymous No.14570133]

>>14570119
Lmao they basically talk directly to Roesch

>Chapter 2 of the PEA describes the Proposed Action, including the number of annual launch operations as proposed by SpaceX. The Proposed Action does not include a gas pipeline. In response to public comments and other corporate decisions, SpaceX revisited and refined its proposed launch‐related infrastructure elements tied to the Proposed Action. SpaceX is no longer proposing a desalination plant, natural gas pretreatment system, liquefier, or power plant. The desalination plant was included in the draft PEA because it would be used to facilitate deluge for the launch pad. SpaceX is still considering whether to use deluge water for the launch pad, but, in the event it will, it has decided that it will truck in water, as described in the PEA. SpaceX no longer needs the natural gas pretreatment system and liquefier due to advances in the design and capabilities of SpaceX’s Raptor engines. Previously, additional refinement of methane to purer levels than commercially available was anticipated to be needed. However, as a result of engine advances, SpaceX can rely on commercially available methane without refinement. Accordingly, the natural gas pretreatment system and liquefier are no longer proposed. Because the desalination plant, natural gas pretreatment system, and liquefier are no longer proposed

There was never a pipeline

[Anonymous No.14570136]

>>14570133
>>There was never a pipeline
typical FUD

[Anonymous No.14570153]

>>14570115
They might have said something. SpaceX has a FONSI, not a EIS

[Anonymous No.14570156]

>All natural gas needed for the Proposed Action would be delivered by truck. This information was added to PEA Chapter 2 and Section 3.14. SpaceX is not proposing to install a pipeline, transport natural gas to the launch site via a pipeline, or drill wells to extract natural gas.

[Anonymous No.14570161]

>As noted in the response in Section H, Cultural Resources, the FAA has reached out to the
Carrizo/Comecrudo Tribe of Texas. The FAA has not received a response from the tribe.

>As noted in Section 3.1 of the PEA, because of the proximity of the VLA to the U.S./Mexico border, the
FAA considered the potential for transboundary impacts and consulted the Mexican government
through the State Department. The FAA did not receive any comments from the Mexican government
regarding the environmental review.

They don't care, only FUDders care

[Anonymous No.14570171]

AMAZING just look at how the clickbait sensation seeking media tried to weasel the words to make it look like FAA did not grant SpaceX authority to build the towers vs. what that statement ACTUALLY means

[Anonymous No.14570175]

>>14569885
How would approval work if it's launched from something mobile? Get separate reviews for specific regions of water? I imagine trying to get 10 different ones at the same time would slow some things down, but each would have fewer potential problems than one large one covering all of those areas.

[Anonymous No.14570180]

>>14570161
>>14570171
>>14570156
Lol. Lmao

[Anonymous No.14570185]

schizoposters BTFO

[Anonymous No.14570201]

Lots of luck on his trip to the Moon

[Anonymous No.14570203]

>>14570185
Got a great idea for the next OP kek

[Anonymous No.14570214]

>>14569978
They will hopefully find out the problems. You just gotta do the best of what you can and trust the engineers to actually be useful. You are going to make it, anon!

[Anonymous No.14570219]

https://twitter.com/Neo_EimajOzear/status/1536462858774401024

> In light of the exciting news of the mitigated FONSI, here is the (normalised) performance of the Starship stack to each inclination from 26° North with and without azimuth restrictions. Approximate Starlink v2 inclinations are noted.

[Anonymous No.14570223]

>>14569983
Starship MK3 will fly to orbit in December 2019

[Anonymous No.14570232]

>>14570219
What land? Africa?

[Anonymous No.14570233]

>>14570203
can i get a hint pl0x

[Anonymous No.14570238]

https://www.faa.gov/sites/faa.gov/files/2022-06/AppendixG_ExhaustPlumeCalculations.pdf

Raptor 2

[Anonymous No.14570249]

https://www.faa.gov/sites/faa.gov/files/2022-06/AppendixB_NoiseAssessment.pdf this shit will be loud

[Anonymous No.14570250]

>>14570223
iirc he said in 6 months on the sept. 2019 presentation. Idk he's been saying it's in a few months for like 2 and a half years.

[Anonymous No.14570251]

>>14570232
MY LAND

[Anonymous No.14570255]

> SpaceX raises $1,684,965,520 in latest equity round

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/0001181412/000118141222000001/xslFormDX01/primary_doc.xml

[Anonymous No.14570263]

>>14570255
ONE TRILLION DOLL-oh wait

[Anonymous No.14570264]

Can our rocket/oil rig survive in hurricane season?

[Anonymous No.14570267]

>>14570255
wtf bros I thought Felon Huskrat was finished

[Anonymous No.14570272]

>>14570264
Wind with no debris vs stationary vessel.
Yeah I think it’ll be fine.

[Anonymous No.14570280]

https://spacenews.com/faa-environmental-review-to-allow-starship-orbital-launches-after-changes/

>Environmental groups remain concerned about the impacts of Starship launches from Boca Chica.
>“We are disappointed in this decision, but surely Elon Musk and his team don’t actually want to harm endangered species,” said Mike Parr, president of the American Bird Conservancy
Cry more LMAO

[Anonymous No.14570286]

>>14570264
yeah, gulf rigs were designed to not give a fuck about even the worst hurricanes, and SpaceX will only be making it tankier to handle Superheavy

[Anonymous No.14570289]

>>14570286
I'm worried more about the Starship rather than the oil rig

[Anonymous No.14570290]

>>14570171
All journalist's names should be quietly added to the list. You know the one.

[Anonymous No.14570291]

>>14570280
>Surely Elon Musk and his team don't actually want to harm endangered species

[Anonymous No.14570292]

>>14569783
Different one

[Anonymous No.14570293]

>>14570280
>but surely Elon Musk and his team don’t actually want to harm endangered species
wrong
https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-spacex-mars-longtermism-baby-sea-turtles-2022-3
>Elon Musk, SpaceX Want to Kill Baby Sea Turtles to Get to Mars

[Anonymous No.14570294]

>>14570280
It’s almost like…SpaceX doesn’t want to harm wildlife…holy shit

[Anonymous No.14570297]

>>14570291
he didn't initially but if these envirocucks keep fucking bitching and trying to sabotage his efforts he might change his mind

[Anonymous No.14570298]

>>14570171
>>14570290
>FAA could order SpaceX to take down integration tower

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/14/faa-warns-spacex-it-has-not-approved-new-texas-launch-site-tower.html
https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-boca-chica-starship-launch-tower-faa-environmental-review-texas-2021-7
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/faa-warns-spacex-it-has-not-approved-new-texas-launch-site-tower-2021-07-14/
https://www.independent.co.uk/space/elon-musk-spacex-starship-faa-b1884781.html

Look at these disingenuous cunts, desperate for clicks and to make Musk look bad by extension, not caring about the truth.

[Anonymous No.14570299]

>>14568826
>For length you can just combine shorter modules that have a large docking port.
That's obtuse and unwieldy.

[Anonymous No.14570300]

WE GONNA MAKE IT

[Anonymous No.14570301]

>>14570291
Assuming direct control.
The beetles will be harvested.

[Anonymous No.14570303]

>>14570280
>but surely Elon Musk and his team don’t actually want to harm endangered species

[Anonymous No.14570304]

I don’t think B7 and S24 would be ready for launch until August. Wonder how that lines up with regulations.
I think it’s very possible B7 or S24 end up getting replaced, too. Something might go wrong or SpaceX might have a new vehicle ready.

[Anonymous No.14570305]

hop when?

[Anonymous No.14570306]

>>14570298
that's just jews, anon
being incapable of honesty is their defining characteristic

[Anonymous No.14570309]

We gon' make it

[Anonymous No.14570312]

Starlink for Hawaii Airlines

[Anonymous No.14570314]

The environmental review has been finished for a couple of hours now, why hasn't Starship launched already? I thought they were ready

[Anonymous No.14570318]

>>14570312
Backside

[Anonymous No.14570322]

>>14570314
It takes time to fill the tanks with crushed beetles

[Anonymous No.14570323]

>>14570314
Tldr spacex has to publish an essay on Texan history and put up bird boxes outside their base before they can launch their rocket.

[Anonymous No.14570324]

>>14570314
We've had bureaucratic breafast yes, but what about second breakfast?

[Anonymous No.14570327]

>>14570312
>>14570318
This was in Germany's aviation conference.

500 Mb Down
40 Mb Up
Peak power of 400W (probably avg of 100-200W)

[Anonymous No.14570334]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb8L-NNJqzY

SpaceX influence on Brownsville

[Anonymous No.14570335]

>>14570309
>doesn't show the booster landing on jeff who's house

[Anonymous No.14570339]

Turns out beetles were just a meme, the real enemies were the turtles.

[Anonymous No.14570341]

Okay - which one you fucking faggots just tried to claim that the US stole the interior design for the ISS modules from the Russians on /tv/? I know it was someone here. You deserve to be thrown into a thresher for your insane Russiaboo bullshit.

[Anonymous No.14570343]

>>14570341
Two weeks anon
The ISS is coming down in two weeks

[Anonymous No.14570347]

>>14570339
Turtles aren't a problem. What the FAA is asking to be done is what happens at almost every public beach because you can't trust Chinese people to not steal the eggs and try to ship them back with them to China. No, I am not joking.

t. man who has beachfront property.

[Anonymous No.14570353]

You're up, SLS

[Anonymous No.14570356]

>>14570347
I'm not surprised at the chinamen, but I am disappointed
are mainlanders even capable of being civilized? all signs point towards no

[Anonymous No.14570357]

>>14570356
Thank god these faggots aren't making it into space.

[Anonymous No.14570359]

>>14570341
I don't know what you're talking about? All I know is that the chinks stole Russian module designs for their space station modules however.

Though there was a lot of technology transfer between Russia to the US in terms of long lasting space habitats after the fall of the USSR since the Soviets had far more experience in that technology at the time. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the US modules were designed with that in origin and mind.

[Anonymous No.14570363]

I’m a bit disappointed with how many mitigations there are. Can someone sugarcoat this?

[Anonymous No.14570367]

I don't have any proof and it isn't very interesting anyway but I have no one else to share it with, I met bill nelson on the street today, which I didn't expect since I live in Britain.

[Anonymous No.14570370]

>>14570367
>didn't try to kill him
You could've saved us and ended SLS then and there anon. Why didn't you do it? Why can't be brits ever be trusted to follow through?

[Anonymous No.14570371]

>>14570367
I bet that felt like seeing George Lucas in the background of the thorium reactor documentary.

[Anonymous No.14570372]

>>14570367
Did you wish him good luck on his trip to the British Isles?

[Anonymous No.14570374]

>>14570312

[Anonymous No.14570377]

Didn’t Astra have a tribute to some dead lady on their stream yesterday? Lmao

[Anonymous No.14570379]

>>14570341
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/169555726/#169556401
You mean this thread?

Looking through it the other anon is right. The tianhe core module on Tiangong is just a revamped Soviet MIR core module. It's not really a secret wew. Has nothing to do with the Destiny module.

[Anonymous No.14570387]

>>14570379
They are arguing about the interior of the module. The first Anon points out that the Chinese interior is a copy of Destiny, and then that second Anon starts saying it's a copy of DOS-8 despite looking extremely different.

[Anonymous No.14570389]

>>14568832
Pat Rawlings art
http://www.patrawlings.com/default.cfm

[Anonymous No.14570394]

>>14570363
Most of the mitigations are insanely easy to complete, aside from the inspection and closure for school field trip bullshit. An example is that spacex can set up brooding boxes for birds fucking far away from their starbase, such that no birds would ever set up underneath a rocket. Spacex can also publish the history essay in a few days, since they can induct any random historian into spacex for chump change.

[Anonymous No.14570395]

>>14570371
it felt exactly like that
>>14570370
>>14570372
he was surrounded by a bunch of people and I didn't get a chance to talk to him but I would've absolutely hit him with a cheeky "when's sls launching?"

[Anonymous No.14570396]

>>14570363
not much to sugarcoat
its the bullshit games everyone expected
most of them are a nothingburger that SpaceX can do easily if they aren't already doing it, and the bullshit ones they'll sue over to get rid of
they still have the same 5 launch cap as in the beginning, they'll push to increase it once they start actually launching

[Anonymous No.14570397]

>>14570387
>The chinese copied American ISS modules and shrank them to fit their shitty rockets. I'm not joking sadly enough. It's literally a direct copy that isn't working correctly. if you need I can dig up some pictures of the module clean
Doesn't sound like it. He's making shit up here afterall. If anything they even kept that weird design choice of the Soviet core module (getting a smaller diameter halfway through to fit into Proton) despite the Long March 5B's fairing being more than big enough not to require this.

[Anonymous No.14570412]

>>14570379
>mir 2 electric boogaloo
Oh boy I can’t wait for the changs to turn their heavenly palace into a hellish toilet filled with fungus and hepatitis.

[Anonymous No.14570414]

>>14570397
Have the chinks even copied anything in terms of soace hardware from the US yet? They basically got everything handed to them on a silver plate when the USSR fell so I'm not sure if they have felt the need for that yet.

[Anonymous No.14570416]

>>14570286
>>14570289
Can't they just make it like a typical missile silo where it gets stored under a trapdoor until they are ready for launch?

[Anonymous No.14570419]

>>14570416
Possibly storing inside hanger bay.

[Anonymous No.14570425]

>>14570419
Yeah that's basically what I had in mind. Like a very narrow enclosed High Bay under the actual rig

[Anonymous No.14570428]

>>14570363
NASA has to do the same things at KSC

There's a museum at the visitor's center for the history of the area that sounds eerily similar to the requirement the FAA gave them, and it includes details on what NASA does to preserve the wildlife and recreational opportunities in the area

[Anonymous No.14570429]

How many lummens you need to go light speed???
Did arca already ate the market or what?

[Anonymous No.14570431]

>>14570416
I second this, they should create a silo similar to the Satan rocket where it is shot up into the sky prior to booster ignition.

[Anonymous No.14570432]

>>14570363
>write report paper on mexican-texas war
>monitor area
>fund program to get more students interested in Starbase
>use starlink to help monitor the area
>blah blah blah
They are just non-issues.

[Anonymous No.14570436]

>>14570263
$1.68 cubic kilodollars

[Anonymous No.14570442]

orbit when

[Anonymous No.14570445]

>>14570442
Unironically three more months.

[Anonymous No.14570448]

>>14570442
1.4 decidays

[Anonymous No.14570453]

>>14570431
>category 4 storm inbound, all crew head below deck immediately
>superheavy descends into center
Actually kino

[Anonymous No.14570454]

>>14570445
godddd, this never ends, I've been blueballed for years already, this shit will never fucking launch, I can't take it anymoreeee ahhhhhhhh

[Anonymous No.14570458]

>>14570445
>>14570454
Any chance granting a license for launch doesn't take another entire month like previously thought?

[Anonymous No.14570462]

reminder that topol-m is the most kino sounding launch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIzXI-mlJjs

[Anonymous No.14570464]

>>14570458
Yeah, there is a chance it’ll take half the time for mitigation: two more weeks minimum. It takes time to complete the little bullshit tasks that the FAA gave them. At least now the ball is in spacex’s court.

[Anonymous No.14570469]

>>14570462
>explosion explosion explosion BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrr...

[Anonymous No.14570472]

>>14570442
Gotta do permits now and the license.

[Anonymous No.14570475]

>>14570445
If it's true, how many /sfg/ bros will I see when I visit?

[Anonymous No.14570486]

>>14570462
>Russian SRBs
Cursed

[Anonymous No.14570489]

>>14570453
This timeline keeps getting better, we're quickly accelerating into the Metal Gear timeline. Next thing we know, Musk will have stationary Mexican Gulf ocean fortresses, and all staff will be raised from childhood in Boca Chica to operate the automated offshore rocket launch complexes.

[Anonymous No.14570494]

>>14570255
IPO when? I would dump all my money on SpaceX

[Anonymous No.14570496]

I find and smash every last turtle egg on that beach

[Anonymous No.14570500]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_jqf1DzZgE

Starlink on a boat.

[Anonymous No.14570505]

>>14570494
Spacex going public would be potentially disastrous

[Anonymous No.14570507]

>>>/pol/382237876
so the anime faggot is a german autist

[Anonymous No.14570511]

>>14570494
>a private company that is passionate for a goal that is not just simply make more profit
>turn it into a public company where it would be legally required to focus solely on making more profit for its shareholders above all else
are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.14570514]

obligatory reminder that all anti-anime posters are redditors trying to start their infestation
Burn them out

[Anonymous No.14570518]

>>14570514
>posts the same pedo garbage all over the place
>m-muh reddit

[Anonymous No.14570521]

>>14570494
>SpaceX IPO
2030
>Starlink UPO
2025

[Anonymous No.14570522]

>>14570511
I just want money

[Anonymous No.14570525]

>>14570522
Buy more ASTR, simple as

[Anonymous No.14570529]

>1000 posts
You guys told me /sfg/ was dead

[Anonymous No.14570533]

imagine willingly giving schizos (you)s

[Anonymous No.14570534]

>>14570529
/sfg/ is only dead when nothing is happening. If /sfg/ is dead, then nothing is happening. You may look around and THINK that you see something happening, but if you check /sfg/ and it's dead, you're wrong.

[Anonymous No.14570538]

>50 word book report on texas history due tomorrow
>still shitposting on 4chan

[Anonymous No.14570548]

>>14570486
>>14570462
>>14570469
It sounds like the fucking end of the world, and for good reason.

[Anonymous No.14570549]

>>14570538
>t. SpaceX

[Anonymous No.14570601]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUkNsYps6oo

[Anonymous No.14570603]

>>14570538
Elon... Please stop playing Elden Ring the future of humanity depends on this essay...

[Anonymous No.14570608]

>>14570314
i dont know...

[Anonymous No.14570619]

How long has it been since SFG broke 1k posts before page 10.

[Anonymous No.14570623]

>>14570619
I want to say full stack #2 or the Kodiak Drift

[Anonymous No.14570624]

>>14570619
since the last shit blizzard

[Anonymous No.14570630]

>>14570619
2 weeks ago

[Anonymous No.14570631]

yeah this shit dead af

[Anonymous No.14570632]

>>14570619
Probably around DM-2 or Crew 1 launch

[Anonymous No.14570634]

>>14570496
Don't they relocate all the turtle eggs anyhow because that was already a shit beach to swim out from?

[Anonymous No.14570637]

https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1536474040113954817
>NASA says they’re targeting no earlier than July 11 for the SpaceX CRS-25 cargo mission, after tracing elevated hydrazine readings in the spacecraft’s propulsion system to a Draco thruster valve inlet joint.
ogre

[Anonymous No.14570640]

I love turtles and tortoises so much bros...
They are so CUTE! They are the one reason I'd want a launch to be delayed IF it was recorded to disturb their egg laying and hatching.

[Anonymous No.14570642]

>>14570637
>Valve issue

How the turn tables have..

[Anonymous No.14570643]

>>14570640
Jeb?

[Anonymous No.14570644]

>>14570640
i eat turtles
yum yum they are very tasy

[Anonymous No.14570646]

>>14570640
>catch a turtle while its laying eggs
>masturbate real quick
>spray your sperm all over the turtle eggs
Shit bricks

[Anonymous No.14570648]

>>14570637
>an entire month+ to replace a valve
its fucking over

[Anonymous No.14570652]

>SpaceX has a valve issue

two weeks

>Boeing has a valve issue

Over half a year delay and a new service module.

[Anonymous No.14570653]

Reminder
https://twitter.com/JimFree/status/1536411604098682881
>Tomorrow is the last day to submit your name to ride aboard @NASA_Orion on #Artemis I. Fly beyond the Moon with us by getting your free boarding pass here: http://nasa.gov/wearegoing

[Anonymous No.14570675]

>>14570653
sent ;)

[Anonymous No.14570677]

>>14570652
Crazy how hydrazine be like that

[Anonymous No.14570682]

>>14570644
I've heard turtles or at least tortoises have the most delicious meat of all creatures. Martian tortoise farms when?

[Anonymous No.14570685]

[Anonymous No.14570692]

>>14570653
>>14570685
very cool

[Anonymous No.14570696]

>>14570637
FLANGES

[Anonymous No.14570699]

>>14570692
Not even a word filter lmao

[Anonymous No.14570700]

>>14570699
>>14570692
Language.

[Anonymous No.14570701]

>>14570699
Good song actually

[Anonymous No.14570703]

page 10 when

[Anonymous No.14570704]

>>14570700
What do you mean? I used my real name.
Here's my LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nate-higgers-82a668181

[Anonymous No.14570705]

Is civil war history the environment

[Anonymous No.14570706]

>>14570703
I already have the new thread lined up and ready to post, waiting on page 10.

[Anonymous No.14570709]

>>14570706
Same.

[Anonymous No.14570711]

Let's be very honest again

[Anonymous No.14570717]

>>14570711
This implies you haven't been honest until now.

[Anonymous No.14570719]

>>14570377
Astra behaves like a FAGMAN corporation where his results are embarrassing. I think is some kind of divine punishment, i bet when they stop that bullshit things will improve almost magically.

[Anonymous No.14570723]

>>14570711
We don't have a commercially available heavy lift vehicle.

[Anonymous No.14570725]

>>14570507
Tbf im not him, but i post that pic sometimes because i like the mood of it, and I dont watch anime either.

[Anonymous No.14570727]

>>14570518
if you dont wanna fuck kids, there's something seriously wrong with you

[Anonymous No.14570728]

>>14570653
yawn, my name is on mars

[Anonymous No.14570737]

no schizo posting next thread please :)

[Anonymous No.14570743]

>>14570507
so the schizo is a /pol/tard

[Anonymous No.14570744]

>>14570737
No promises are made :)

[Anonymous No.14570750]

>Go outside, touching grass
>Meet a guy who's working on the shipping container for the Europa clipper mission
>Sets me up to grab some exclusive missions t-shirts
Go outside anons, you meet cool space people

[Anonymous No.14570752]

>>14570750
Based. Pretty sure I met some backup astronauts for crew-4 once near the space center in Houston

[Anonymous No.14570762]

Stainless

[Anonymous No.14570768]

>>14570653
I don't want my name getting tainted by the SLS

[Anonymous No.14570773]

>>14570768
Heh, taint

[Anonymous No.14570775]

>>14570773
Huh huh huh, you said 'taint'

[Anonymous No.14570784]

>>14570782
>>14570782
>>14570782
>>14570782
>>14570782

[Anonymous No.14570797]

>>14570762
I was reading up on how much it cost to make one of those and came across an account of how they were built by regular dudes who bent the panels themselves

[Anonymous No.14570821]

>>14570371
I've watched every version of that doc including the 7 hour one

[Anonymous No.14570934]

>>14569571
>Texas Institute of Technology and Science