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I heard taking Davunetide has lots of evidence for increasing IQ

>> No.14565009

Depression increases IQ. Only in social isolation you begin to question the world and to think logically about society.

>> No.14565013

>>14564999
IQ is a myth. That image shows the evil it is used to promote.

>> No.14565014

>>14564999
The only way to really increase your IQ is to either completely rewire your neurons, change the very composition of your neurons or expand your brain volume which is impossible due to the skull.

>> No.14565021

>>14565013
>IQ is a myth
t. IQ-let

cope more

>> No.14565058

>>14565013
IQ tests ARE bullshit, not IQ(If you assume that a perfect IQ test that can quantify intelligence accurately dropped from heaven) but until then, we can only say that IQ test are faulty.

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Mushrooms

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>>14565013
>IQ is a myth.
Repeating slogans on protest signs does not equate to science nor the disproving of theories.

>> No.14565090

>>14565058
>I fail the test, therefore it's bullshit
Seethe harder

>> No.14565093

>>14564999
Forgive your parents

>> No.14565106

>>14565021
Cope with what? I'm living better than 80% of the population with no IQ tests or fancy degrees, that shit is for suckers kek, there is no way to measure intelligence, only knowledge
>>14565065
Repeating jewish propagana does not equate to science either

>> No.14565250

>>14565090
No, that I'm talking in theoretical terms. It's just bullshit to think that scientists can accurately quantify something as abstract as intelligence right now, probably in 20 or 30 years. Doesn't mean all iq tests today are bullshit, just that there are a lot more factors to intelligence that is beyond our current grasp.

t. iq test facilitator at mensa

>> No.14565311

>>14565250
Mensa is a midwit club. With my 180+ IQ I feel like talking to a monkey when I have to interact with 130 IQ plebs.

>> No.14565360

>>14565014
>expand your brain volume which is impossible due to the skull.
Couldn't we expand the skull with something like leg lengthening surgery ? Cut it in pieces, fix them with screws that you slowly unscrew over months for new bone to grow in the cuts ?

>> No.14565613

>>14565360
I am willing to test this on you would you like an appointment ?

>> No.14565841

https://www.worlddata.info/iq-by-country.php

Take the Equatorial Guinea with the lowest average IQ on here of 56; you think if you kidnapped some children from there, put them through a 1st world education system, that the average IQ of those children would really still be anywhere near 56?

Literally just learn stuff, try and emulate how smart people think, stay healthy; that's all you need to do

>> No.14565867

>>14565014
Good thing neurons are rewiring and changing in our brains every day

>> No.14565894 [DELETED] 

>>14564999
>HAY GOYS, BUY Davunetide
subtle advertising, shlomo

>> No.14565903

>>14565841
An IQ that low means those children wont learn anything they cant even comprehend basic addition at this level of retard.

>> No.14566001

>>14565903
Yeah and I seriously doubt that's the case for the majority of the country.

>> No.14566019

>>14565867
No completely rewiring your neurons like after you get hit with a good lightning strike and become an aspie.

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>>14564999
Low doses of dextroamphetamine/adderall/methamphetamine/whatever stim you can get your hands on.
Anyone denying this is a retard.
> inb4 muh diet, muh exercise, muh 8h of sleep, muh drugs are bad mkay and muh studies with n=10 saying this is not true
Retards. You have no idea what you are talking about.

>> No.14566044

>>14566019
You can still rewire them to that degree on your own, it just takes time rather than being immediate like having a stroke or getting struck by lightning. I managed to do it over the course of years by essentially brainwashing myself in a way.

>> No.14566069

>>14566024
Interesting they are actually like the one thing in this survey https://troof.blog/posts/nootropics/ that had an actual comparable or greater effect on people than stuff that improves your overall health like exercise, sleep, diet etc; but all that stuff can still make a huge impact and stimulants aren't ideal for some people.

>> No.14566078

>>14564999
Read my replies

>> No.14566141

>>14565009
Yeah, basically.
When you're not playing along, you start to question a lot of things.
But I think it is rather a side effect of high IQ in isolation.
My friend did the same, and he ended up being a drug-addicted hippie listening to some hippies like Alan Watts and other Terrence McKenna.

>> No.14566162

LMAO thats why all these pro athletes who abuse peds since young age grow to be extremelly intelligent and turn to pro chess players, do scientific breaktroughts and run outperformant hedge funds after they retire from sports.

>> No.14566192

>>14566162
Or these pro athletes are very intelligent because they are the best of the best at the sport they play. Once you get to the very highest level of most sports it's 90% a mind game.

>> No.14566193

>>14564999

Stress and complex tasks. IQ is an adaptation to a difficult environment. The rest is genetics.

Also you can train for IQ tests to a certain degree which doesn't really make you smarter but will give you an higher "official" IQ.

>> No.14566213

>>14566193
This, I was a complete oblivious retard before I dealt with intense OCD for years.

Also, it's not even to a certain degree that you can train for IQ tests, you can train completely. A good portion of it is memorization which is extremely trainable and the rest of the portions are math pattern recognition stuff which you can improve at by just taking a math class and then there's language comprehension portions which you learn in English class. It wouldn't be that different from studying for the SAT.

>> No.14566720

>>14566024
Based and addypilled.

>> No.14566804

>>14564999
No wonder trannies have such retarded takes

>> No.14566836

>>14565014
And how increasing the volume of the pc is exactly going to increase its power? Are powerful computers now bigger than the von neuman ones? Wasnt einsteins brain quite small? Would not be quality over quantity?

>> No.14566949

>80 IQ to start with, not something that isn't retard range to begin with

>> No.14567137

>>14564999
Unironically, read the sequences

>> No.14567156

>>14566836
Good lucking running your operating system on a 100 MB hard drive.

>> No.14567165

>>14564999
From 80 to 71
Retarded either way

>> No.14568041

>>14564999
Imagine putting a 80IQ retard on hormone blockers...

>> No.14568120

>>14567156
A 100mb hard drive might be 10 times bigger than my old ass sd card wich is tiny as a nail and has 1gb. You dont get my point. Einsteins brain was smol btw and savants struck by lightning dont expand their skull. If you wanted to enhance brain power we should be talking about quality of connections not just raw volume wich might ought to mean nothing

>> No.14568182

>>14568120

Einstein would have been even smarter with a larger brain. High quality AND size are important.

>> No.14568292

>>14564999
Emotinal IQ is of better value for a good life. Unless you want to just be a good earner

>> No.14570065

>>14565311
it's all noise, statlet.

>> No.14570073

>>14565009
depression literally makes you retarded- this is a huge cope used by mentally ill people
it goes something like this:
>yes i might be miserable, b-b-but that's only because i'm too smart to be happy!

>> No.14570094

>>14565009
>>14566141
Believe it or not, brainlet, but a properly regulated dopaminergic system is necessary for high IQ by virtue of allowing you to focus on the questions on IQ tests and therefore in real-life situations. Being in a deep depression obviously hinders that immensely, which is why they are often given stimulants: because they're so scatter-brained. Also, look up the GABAergic deafferentation hypothesis for cognitive decline, aging, etc. Nothing you fags say has any scientifc evidence

>> No.14570144

>>14565013
IQ tests are the only way to measure intelligence though. And it's pretty good yes it has its flaws. But it gives a general idea of how intelligent someone is or can be. If you score below 90 you sure as shit aren't going to be an engineer. Likewise if you score above 140 there is no telling that you will discover something great or be a chess champion. It just gives you a general idea

>> No.14570228

>>14570144
IQ only works for the former. Its correlation is non-linear, so nothing but mental disorders can be detected with it.

>> No.14571403

>>14565009
>le /pol/ cope

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viral advertising thread

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>>14565009
Close, conquering depression raises your IQ. If you take the test during your depression you're guaranteed to score lower (lower energy levels, lower alertness, lower focus, lower motivation). But if you come out of it, it usually has caused deep reflection and insight into cause and effect (ie patterns), and returning to optimal alertness and motivation plus the now strengthened habit of pattern recognition will mean a higher score.
This is why certain meditations will also raise IQ significantly, but /sci/ isn't ready for that topic quite yet.

>> No.14572174

>>14564999
https://youtu.be/v81Igzvx_Mo

>> No.14572187

>>14564999
Have smarter parents.

>> No.14572195

>>14564999
You can't grow past your natural potential but most people aren't at their potential at all, sadly the damage is already done for you if you are older than a child, for the future STOP using fluoride products with estrogen and adopt iodine into your diet, other than that and maybe some basic education there isn't much that can be done

>> No.14573370

>>14564999
so that's why coomers are so stupid?

>> No.14574586

>>14566001
That literally is the case unfortunately. You probably lived your whole life in a wealthy segregated community with zero blacks. If you ever had a conversation with them you’d change your mind. They can barely form sentences, have terrible problem solving abilities, believe weird conspiracy theories “black people was kangz but then whitey stole the throne and made us live in the jungle!” They are seemingly unable to integrate into modern society

>> No.14574938

>>14564999
Nicotine and caffeine.

The effects are temporary and tolerance-building.

>> No.14575739

>>14566044
nta but explain how (i am interested in doing the same thing)

>> No.14575915

Gwern has written some articles about this that I like. His conclusion: there isn't a way to increase IQ.

https://www.gwern.net/Drug-heuristics

Although it's really nice to think that some day there might be a therapy or drug or something to turn me into a genius.

>> No.14575957

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>>14564999
as it happens there is a protein that forms the nmda receptor which allows for ions to travel past the membrane for a longer period of time which allows for neurons to engage in certain bandwidths of activity for a longer period of time allowing for information processing in the Cortex to occur more reliably and to a Greater extent this is the nr2b receptor and there will be things available to improve its function to improve learning of many different kinds and theoretically iq due to the dependency on sustained activity. There are peptides small molecules and soon-to-be RNA molecules and conjugates that hopefully will be great at safely increasing the function of this receptor and there are things at the moment which of very very expensive but soon I hear that a peptide will be made to help modulate this receptor and it could be cheap.

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>>14564999
>What are some known ways to increase IQ?
Stay off 4chan.

>> No.14576280

Read read read read. Every day. It might not raise your IQ but you will become smarter.

>> No.14577557

>>14565841
Honestly better nutrition, less parasite infections, and having a somewhat functional educational system for those theoretical kidnapped Equatorial Guinea children would probably result in noticable IQ gains, but I doubt it would push the average IQ of the group over 80 something. You can look adoption studies to show that; for example, black children in the Minnesota transracial adoption study, who were raised by upper middle class white families in mostly white school districts, ended up being only slightly smarter than the average african american by the end of high school, with an average IQ of 89 vs the 85 average for blacks in the US. Adopted white children in the same study ended up with an average IQs of 103.

>> No.14577891

>>14564999
school
https://www.ed.ac.uk/news/2018/extra-year-in-class-can-make-pupils-smarter-iq-ana

>> No.14579131

>>14564999
Start solving puzzles and analysing patrons and next time you do the test you will get a higher IQ score, is just a stupid test and if you train enough you will break it

>> No.14579136

>>14564999
Because of how IQ is defined, the fastest way to guarantee that yours rises, is to start mass killing everyone that is significantly more intelligent than you.

This will raise the "calculated IQ" of all those below the individuals that are killed off.

So yeah, just kill a bunch of really smart people.
^
If you ask an AGI to help you increase your IQ,

>> No.14579150

>>14564999

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurobiological_effects_of_physical_exercise

Not sure if this strictly increases IQ but I feel like I have 10x better working memory, ability to work, ability to stay focused, etc. now that I exercise regularly.

>> No.14579261

>>14564999
There's a guy on youtube called "Bam" who makes videos about increasing IQ with pharmaceuticals.

>> No.14579285

>>14564999
>80 IQ
>dropped to 71
I hate retards

>> No.14579300

>>14564999
Why would testosterone be important for male brain maturation, but not female brain maturation?

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>>14565062

i know they are good for depression and phobia, but i have not seen any sources that they increase IQ. can u cite a source?

>> No.14580357

>>14579300
Because estrogen plays the same role in women
Technically they could take testosterone instead, just like men could take estrogen, and their brains would likely mature normally but I’d fuck up just about anything else in their bodies

>> No.14580359

>>14580357
It’d not I’d, I can’t type

>> No.14580636

>>14565014
That isn't true you can do simple things like living a healthy lifestyle and not being fat

>> No.14580662

>>14565009
What a pathetic self-serving cope; get your life in shape and start lifting faggot

>> No.14580675

>>14579448
Might not increase your IQ, but you probably won’t care after enough times

What is IQ if we lack free will?

>> No.14580735

>>14572109
i am.

>> No.14580749

>>14564999
Cardio health and creatine.

>> No.14581314

>>14579448

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIwdYP4UnQ4&t=6s

>> No.14581323

>>14574586
OK MOM