MEAT IS BAD FOR YOU

[Anonymous No.14564533]

Pollution accumulates up the food chain. Consume meat or milk or eggs: everything that the animal consumes is concentrated up the food chain. This is why the Inuit have the shortest lifespan in NA: they consume so many wild-caught arctic fish. Their breastmilk is considered industrial waste by the EPA because it's so fucking high in PCBs.
Glyphosphate intake from dairy is way beyond what could be obtained from a plant-based diet.
Endotoxins are the lipid cell lining of gram-negative bacteria. These include Ecoli and related bacteria. Consuming meat promotes inflammation by adding endotoxins to our diet and by saturated fats disrupting the gastrointestinal barrier allowing endotoxins to spill into the blood stream
we are literally eating dead shit bacteria and allowing shit from our digestive tract to spill into our bloodstream whenever we eat animal products and saturated fat
Tumor necrosis factor which is increased by endotoxins that activate TLR4 and tlr2 within the body directly contributes to neuronal cell death by inducing microglial inflammation through activation of kv1.3channels. This also promotes neuronal insulin resistance and contributes to hypothalamic neuroinflammation which is the root cause of all metabolic and neurodegenerative disorders
The doctor that pioneered the endotoxin theory of inflammation was named Roy Swank. He hypothesized in the 1940s that the reason why Norwegian fishermen suffered a lower occurrence of multiple sclerosis than the surrounding population was that their intake of saturated fat was much lower.
Roy swank then did long term nutritional interventions that lasted decades
Those that went on the diet which included a much lower intake of saturated fat and emphasized a high intake of plant foods did not have a progression in their MS diagnosis or relapse.
The endotoxin model of inflammation is now one of the most understood models and contributors to inflammation throughout the body, not just within the brain

[Anonymous No.14564537]

Didn't read. Don't care.

[Anonymous No.14564555]

>>14564533
Everything is bad for you. You will not live forever. We are the microplastics. Several strains of E. coli naturally reside in the microbiome anyway.

[Anonymous No.14564562]

>>14564533
eating more than 100g/day of red meat, on average, will hurt you in the long run

[Anonymous No.14564595]

>>14564533

[Anonymous No.14564678]

>>14564562
say it army soldiers, total retard or shill

[Anonymous No.14564682]

>>14564533
READING LONG WALLS OF TEXT IS VERY UNHEALTHY

[Anonymous No.14564693]

>>14564682
Based.

[Anonymous No.14564854]

>>14564678
https://www.bmj.com/content/365/bmj.l2110

[Anonymous No.14564860]

>>14564682
as if you're doing it every day year in and year out

[Anonymous No.14564929]

>>14564854
So what 50gm at day or 450 per week in one meal?

[Anonymous No.14564933]

I don't eat cows that eat tuna.

[Anonymous No.14565067]

>>14564929
look at the annual average

[Anonymous No.14565103]

>>14564533
noblemen in the middle ages ate up to a kilo of meat a day. Kill yourself. We should be eating much more meat.

[Anonymous No.14565109]

>>14565103
...and died at 50y

[Anonymous No.14565124]

>>14565109
Literally untrue. Easily lived up to 60-70 if you just survived the childhood diseases we no longer suffer from because of clean drinking water.
They ate 2 lbs of meat every single day and they were healthy individuals.
We need to eat a lot more meat, atleast 1 kilo / 2 lbs a day. Any loser eating too much bread or eating too much soi bullshit deserve their atrophied muscles.

[Anonymous No.14565128]

>>14565067
Yea but i mean what is better? A big chunk of meat once every week in this example or small amounts every day or 2, i think a big chunk

[Anonymous No.14565133]

>>14565128
>50 g a day
You need atleast 1 kg of meat a day.

[Pax No.14565280]

>>14565103
Didn't people in the middle ages die in their 50s if they were lucky and Noblemen suffered from a variety of pathological conditions such as gout, and other diseases of affluence that everyone in the western world are easily susceptible to due to gluttony. Peasants in the middle ages likely ate healthier than kings and were more physically active because they subsisted on beans and whole grains. Quite literally all processed food we know of today were first introduced as foods of affluence. White flour, and sugar were foods of kings.I consider meat a processed food because animals consume all of this plant matter and you lose all of the antioxidants, fiber, phytonutrients, carbohydrates, etc.
Nutritional anthropologists used to even consider the diets of rural africans (which included a much larger proportion of plant foods) inadequate in protein compared to english diets.
You are misconstruing appeal to authority and epistemological arguments as evidence based review of nutrition. There's been several hundred years of nutritional research since the time of kings and paleolithic man that can give us a better understanding of the molecular mechanisms of nutrition up to the cellular level. There's metabolic ward experiments and feeding trials showing the direct consequences of consumption of a high fat, high protein, or high sugar meal on markers of endothelial function, increases in markers of peripheral inflammation, reduction in serotonin metabolism in the brain, and these can be extrapolated to disease pathology because we can observe the direct consequences of Lipotoxicity and endotoxicity within the brain and reduction in cognitive function and metabolic homeostasis through understanding of the hypothalamic model of metabolic disorder.https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28677618/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9036757/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2858203/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28045396/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19116375/

[Anonymous No.14565565]

>>14565280
>Peasants in the middle ages likely ate healthier than kings and were more physically active because they subsisted on beans and whole grains

[Anonymous No.14565624]

>>14564562
so does breathing oxygen

[Anonymous No.14565681]

>>14565109
shill, are you saying that at that time grass eaters lived up to 90 easily?

[Anonymous No.14565690]

>>14565124
living to 5yo was as little as a 50/50 proposition at times until medicine got out of the dark ages, and it was never better than 75%. Now its 99.3% and that's counting US infant mortality which over counts reasonable mortality rates cartoonishy badly(4 month premature births are mortalities even though they had 0% chance of survival, just an involuntary abortion essentially) and it's 99.9% if you don't count childbirth. Burying one of your young kids was something the AVERAGE family had to do up to the 19th Century. Now if that happens it makes the news

[Anonymous No.14565719]

>>14565690
I will tell you a secret. it's not about "modern medicine". it's about more interesting life and less stress. animals don't have medicine at all, and don't give a shit about kids mortality.

[Anonymous No.14565742]

>This is why the Inuit have the shortest lifespan in NA: they consume so many wild-caught arctic fish.
assuming that people that live in the wild die exclusively by its dietary choices is the dumbest way to start this argument

>Their breastmilk is considered industrial waste by the EPA because it's so fucking high in PCBs.
yet you dont know about inuit child with heads the size of cabbages due to PCBs like modern kids exposed to radiation and the other bullshit that mades up this PCBs concern

>Endotoxins are the lipid cell lining of gram-negative bacteria. These include Ecoli and related bacteria. Consuming meat promotes inflammation by adding endotoxins to our diet and by saturated fats disrupting the gastrointestinal barrier allowing endotoxins to spill into the blood stream
e coli and any other bacterial ```````endotoxin``````` are also found in vegetables specially in the peel

>This also promotes neuronal insulin resistance and contributes to hypothalamic neuroinflammation which is the root cause of all metabolic and neurodegenerative disorders
thats the type of shit you develop on plant-based diet and carbohydrate-based diet, and thats the type of shit you see people heal themselves from when starting a meat-based diet

>Those that went on the diet which included a much lower intake of saturated fat and emphasized a high intake of plant foods did not have a progression in their MS diagnosis or relapse.
The endotoxin model of inflammation is now one of the most understood models and contributors to inflammation throughout the body, not just within the brain
norwegians literally thrived on seafood (meat) through ages just like the whole homo sapiens species, obviously thats why we dont get fucked up on a meat-based diet like we do on a plant-based

[Anonymous No.14565764]

>>14565719
"modern medicine" as in figuring out what bacteria is or stumbling on penicillin not whatever it is today. if you think nature isn't absolutely brutal to anything young in the wild you need to leave your suburban enclave. even grizzly cubs get permabanned at a 50% clip in their first year in the wild

[Anonymous No.14565819]

>>14564533
>Glyphosphate intake from dairy is way beyond what could be obtained from a plant-based diet.
Kek. Glyphosphate is rapidly excreted. In this case, the highest sources will be plant foods. You can't just assume EVERYTHING accumulates up the food chain. It varies. Are we talking about heavy metals? Something that's water soluble? Something that's fat soluble? But if you have an actual source showing it's higher in dairy than in plant products, I'll take a look.

>Endotoxins are the lipid cell lining of gram-negative bacteria. These include Ecoli and related bacteria. Consuming meat promotes inflammation by adding endotoxins to our diet and by saturated fats disrupting the gastrointestinal barrier allowing endotoxins to spill into the blood stream
The worst sources of endotoxins will be what is produced in your gut. Guess what can promote endotoxins? Fiber. Saturated fats tighten the gut junctures over time and are protective of the liver, polyunsaturated fats do the opposite. Look at mice studies feeding ethanol with either saturated fat or pufa. Damage to the liver is entirely due to the endotoxin after the ethanol weakens the junctures.

>we are literally eating dead shit bacteria and allowing shit from our digestive tract to spill into our bloodstream whenever we eat animal products and saturated fat
False as shown above.

>He hypothesized in the 1940s that the reason why Norwegian fishermen suffered a lower occurrence of multiple sclerosis than the surrounding population was that their intake of saturated fat was much lower.
Fish is magically not meat now? And the EPA and DHA contained in fish does not exist in any plant food. Also, don't fish accumulate very high amounts of dioxins and heavy metals?

[Anonymous No.14565824]

>>14565690
That anon's point was that while infant and child mortality was higher in the past, lifespan was not absurdly short once a person reached adulthood. The difference isn't modern medicine, it's a more sanitary environment thanks to modern plumbing.

[Anonymous No.14565848]

>>14564533
>Half of your body is meat
>Don't eat meat!! Meat bad!
Ok sorry but even 10iq retarded toddler could see it's bullshit

[Anonymous No.14565886]

>>14565280
>consume
>fiber
This is how you spot the subhuman CIA shill

[Anonymous No.14565918]

>>14564533
the average american consumes far too much meat with far too little fiber, their swollen gut is stuffed with rotting animal flesh that takes 48-72 hours or more to be passed, this created an extremely toxic gut biome and cutting out meat in this situation is extremely beneficial

most US meat, the majority of cheap pork and beef, nearly all chicken and all farmed fish are all extremely low quality as well which makes things far worse

a vegan who goes from that to eating a bunch of processed meat and cheese substitutes will be somewhat protein deficient and scrawny and while their overall health will improve due to the gut biome being less fucked they will tend more towards dangerous obesity and cardiac problems as well as many others as most vegan products are loaded with saturated fats in place of natural ingredients

the carnivore diet basically works because its low carb, its obviously much healthier than the shit baseline vegan diet, itll definitely give you better gains than a comparable low carb vegan diet but has its own issues and probably wont be healthier overall

Of course the healthiest option is to not be an overweight manchild driven to emotional extremes, eat quality wild-caught or pasture-raised meat products a few times a week as part of a balanced diet with plenty of fiber and fresh fruit and vegetables and avoid processed foods, refined carbs and seed oils but that takes actual effort

in the battle between extremist vegans and gluttonous meat eaters everyones health suffers

[Anonymous No.14565949]

>>14565280
>Didn't people in the middle ages die in their 50s if they were lucky and Noblemen suffered from a variety of pathological conditions such as gout, and other diseases of affluence that everyone in the western world are easily susceptible to due to gluttony.
Your personal opinion taking in consideration that you keep on considering the only mean of death as dietary choice. Gluttony is most commonly associated with people eating on plant-based diets since the definition of gluttony by itself means "non-stop eating" and this is something you see in food that doesn't have any nutritional value, i.e. plants. You don't need to eat tons of meat and you in fact not even can, because meat is protein and protein promotes saciation. On the other hand, every vegetable is made from carbohydrates and every pathologic gluttony is associated with food on the plant-base range, it doesn't matter if we talking about sugar or wheat cause they fall on the same umbrella and mostly you are fucking dumb if you think people get morbid obese by eating things that contains "fat" without taking in consideration sugar and wheat content. I am awaiting validation on this https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2858203/ by you linking me people who got obese eating exclusively cream and even other natural-raw dairy options, and not sugary trash regurgitated by an industrial machine.

>antioxidants, fiber, phytonutrients, carbohydrates, etc.
You cannot digest fiber, and antioxidants and phytonutrients in vegetables come packed in polyphenols and real toxins like lectin, things you find in plants cause they are actually the way these plants can defend themselves.

[Anonymous No.14565961]

>>14565824
in invention of antibiotics and the switchover from violent physical warfare to psychological manipulation and information warfare explains away virtually all life expectancy growth during the past century, there haven't been any other significant contributing factors.
alexander flemming is possibly the most significant scientist of the past millennia and nobody wants to give him credit becuase he was a white male christian and not from the correct strata of society.

[Anonymous No.14565990]

>>14565961
Most childhood viral illnesses disappeared with widespread indoor plumbing. Vaccines get the credit, but cases were already dropping like a rock prior to that. Agree on antibiotics though. The Spanish Flu was believed to be so deadly due to secondary bacterial infections. Of course now we're dealing antibiotic resistant bacteria, so we may end up in a similar position at some point.

[Anonymous No.14566035]

wheres OP with more bullshit so we can humiliate him and consequently spread information?

[Anonymous No.14566181]

>>14565990
viral illnesses are inventions of globohomo, retard

[Anonymous No.14566190]

>>14565961
absolutely false. pharmas purpose was to slow growth of population. technological progress increased productivity, less hunger.

[Anonymous No.14566195]

>>14565918
in order to be healthy one needs to eat what his body asks for. and never read walls of text from government shills and experts. government is poison.

[Anonymous No.14566198]

>>14565133
You must be very rich to eat 1kg of meat per day or very poor and stupid eating garbage meat like non organic and grassfeed

[Anonymous No.14566616]

>>14564533
How are your teeth dude?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ

[Anonymous No.14566618]

>>14566181
But what about bacterial?

[Anonymous No.14566626]

>>14564533
been eating meat my entire life
I'm fine

[Anonymous No.14566724]

>>14565918
Prove it, smoothbrain retard imbecile.

[Anonymous No.14566764]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeVcey0Ng-w

[Anonymous No.14566891]

>>14564533
nothing else works in my stomach.

why do think longevity is desirable, especially in current year

[Anonymous No.14566902]

>>14564533
>Glyphosphate intake from dairy is way beyond what could be obtained from a plant-based diet.
Yes, eating the glyphosphate directly by eating all the crops it's used on makes more sense.

[Anonymous No.14566929]

>>14564533
>What a bunch of WEF autistic ranting.

[Anonymous No.14566937]

>>14564533
>Meat is not for peasants
>Eat your bugs peasant
>Live in zeee pods peasants!
>Take your "vaccines" peasants!
>You will be happy with nothing or else!

[Anonymous No.14566950]

>>14566891
my god how i love this quote i need to read this book eventually

[Anonymous No.14566964]

>>14566891
source of the book?

I know mongolian has a beautiful written lanuguage

[Anonymous No.14566969]

>>14565280
>Didn't people in the middle ages die in their 50s
No. They died at a variety of ages depending on whether or not they were lucky and didn't catch a disease like the plague or small pox.
>Peasants in the middle ages likely ate healthier than kings
Noblemen were in general more physically active than the average common person today.
>were more physically active because they subsisted on beans and whole grains
A peasant or general laborer is more physically active because that's what they had to do to make a living. Not because of their diet. Though the difference between a commoner and a nobleman is that a nobleman might be able to get away with being inactive in certain cases.
>Noblemen suffered from a variety of pathological conditions such as gout
Sufficient physical activity prevents gout. Gout is also known as an old man's disease.
>they subsisted on beans and whole grains
Dairy, was also quite a prominent part of peasant diets with things like green cheese. Medieval commoners in general ate a variety of meats like fish, pigeons, etc. and other animals that were not protected by law. Commoners getting things like Beaver classified as "fish" so they could eat meat during fast days when they were only allowed to eat fish according to the church's dietary rituals. General laborers drank heavily as well.

[Anonymous No.14566975]

>>14566964
i think is Genghis Khan Making of the Modern World

[Anonymous No.14566977]

>>14565280
>whole grains
Whole grains are just starch (just introduce a common enzyme in your stomach and saliva and it quickly becomes sugar). Those are best minimized. Most of the nutritional benefits you can get from it are better obtained from other plants like cabbage.
>Quite literally all processed food we know of today were first introduced as foods of affluence.
Like white bread (grains),
>I consider meat a processed food
By the same standards, plants and fruits are processed foods since they are the result of a plethora of chemical reactions transforming whatever's in the soil into a piece of edible matter.
>you lose all of the antioxidants,
People have historically eaten herbs like sage or oregano on meat and other foods. Those provided antioxidants
>phytonutrients, carbohydrates, etc.
Animals store phytonutrients and vitamins in their organs, particularly the liver. All animals store carbohydrates within their muscles as well. Glucose is also derived from proteins during digestion. So you do get carbohydrates from meat.

[Anonymous No.14566984]

>>14565280
>they subsisted on beans and whole grains.
beside which they consumed smallgame meat, fish, cheese and other dairy products

[Anonymous No.14566985]

>>14566969
>>14566977
Impressed, someone on 4chan who actually knows about nutrition and history.

[Anonymous No.14566996]

>>14566984
, poultry, goats, sheep, rabbits

[Anonymous No.14567069]

>>14566975
confirmed

[Anonymous No.14567114]

>>14565690
>until medicine got out of the dark ages

Not medicine, nutrition. If you were in an industrial city, getting things like eggs, meat, milk was difficult without $$$. For fuck's sakes, they would put Indians on reservations and give them a ration of "Tea, flour and sugar." Then when they all got sick "oh, it must be their inferior genetics, Doctor Science says Flour and Sugar have sufficient "caloric substance"!"

[Anonymous No.14567166]

>>14564533
I'm vegan and I have ms

[Anonymous No.14567172]

>>14567166
I am a meat eater and feel incredibly awsome.

[Anonymous No.14567223]

[Anonymous No.14567228]

>>14564533
dont care, didnt read, would sell you into sex trafficking if it were up to me

[Anonymous No.14567762]

>>14566891
The mongolians ate the superfood kumis, or fermented mare's milk. This, not the meat, was why they were so healthy.

[Anonymous No.14567772]

>>14566626
have too be 18 to stay here

[Anonymous No.14567779]

>>14567762
even if true, don't matter, still animal product based, still activates mTOR and whatever the argument vegans have for not eating meat

[Anonymous No.14568142]

>>14567772
shill, do rich people eat meat? Gates, Soros?

[Anonymous No.14568148]

>>14567762
they ate both though?

[Anonymous No.14568155]

>>14568148
>In prehistoric times, the Chukchi engaged in nomadic hunter gatherer modes of existence. In current times, there continue to be some elements of subsistence hunting, including that of polar bears,[9] marine mammals and reindeer. However, there are some differences between the traditional lifestyles of the coastal and inland Chukchi. The former (coastal Chukchi) were largely settled fishers and hunters (mainly of sea mammals). The inland Chukchi were partial reindeer herders.[10]
veganism is a globohomo propaganda bullshit

[Anonymous No.14568260]

>>14567762
I see, where do I find this Kumis?

[Anonymous No.14568618]

>>14568148
Yes. During the mongolian campaigns they ate Borts (Mongolian Jerky).
>>14567762
>This, not the meat, was why they were so healthy.
Like most ancient people, they were much more active than even the more active modern people. Exercise is probably the largest factor in personal health and proper development. Something like liver (commonly done in most meat eating populations) contains large quantities of all vitamins and minerals. For example, 100 grams of beef liver contains as much as 1000% of your daily vitamin A requirements and 3000% of your vitamin B-12 requirements.
>>14568155
>veganism is a globohomo propaganda bullshit
Yes. People have never been vegans except for the most religious zealots in certain religions that arose in some civilizations. Prior to agriculture, the human diet was meat, certain roots, edible vegetables, and fruits. There were no vegan people. Where people started to get closer to veganism with grain-heavy diets during early agriculture . Milk was a later introduction through pastoralism and domestication with certain animals. Ancient European peoples and certain near Eastern peoples were intially pastoralists and drank a lot of milk--Northern Europeans are the least lactose intolerant especially in places like Denmark or Ireland in which only 4% of people are lactose intolerant.

[Anonymous No.14569044]

>>14568618
you mean India, of course. they already had overpopulation, so elites forced veganism

[Anonymous No.14570164]

>>14568618
>>14566977
>>14566969
>>14566616
>>14565949
>>14565819
how come someone goes as far as to posting sources to undermine his effortpost and all the replies are sourceless, schizoposts about things that may or may not be true aka speculation?
Not to mention, posts, like
>>14565742
>shit you see people heal themselves from when starting a meat-based diet
are just flat-out wrong. Saturated fats and animal protein promote dysfunction in the gastrointestinal barrier leading to a leaky gut that allows bacterial endotoxins into our bloodstream. These molecules promote inflammation throughout the body through actions on TLR4 which increases the activation of microglial cells and macrophages. Endotoxins promote the breakdown of the blood-brain barrier allowing kynurenic acid and quinolinic acid into the brain Endotoxins promote inflammation and insulin resistance within the brain
Increased inflammation within the brain changes the neurotrophic activities of growth factors like BDNF to favor the production of microglial cells over that of neurons
Endotoxins by reducing insulin sensitivity within the brain and promoting inflammation increase the tone of cortisol expression which increases endocannabinoid signaling to mitigate the effects of chronic mild stress.
Chronic mild stress promotes disinhibition of GABA/somatostatin release within the brain and the internalization of gaba receptors leading eventually to disinhibition of glutamatergic activity which chronically activates neurons and under the circumstances of increased neuroinflammation insulin resistance within the brain leads to reduced neurotrophic insulin signaling, and feeds forward to promote more neuroinflammation
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2853195/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4424797/
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28323986/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6506390/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6814438/

[Anonymous No.14570169]

>>14568618
>>14566977
>>14566969
>>14566616
>>14565949
>>14565819
>>14565742
>>14570164
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2211124716307331
Directly increasing neuronal insulin sensitivity increases metabolic homeostasis and BCAA catabolism. The failure of BCAA catabolism aggravates organ fibrosis, cancer growth, etc
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2728689/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5813603/
Consuming a plant based diet promotes lower body iron accumulation than heme iron while having similar hemocrit levels.
Consumption of phytonutrient rich plant foods such as cruciferous vegetables and high amounts of fiber from foods like beans increase butyrate production in the gastrointestinal tract that preserves the gastrointestinal barrier. Consuming meals rich in carbohydrates increases tryptophan uptake into the brain which is metabolized into serotonin and then that serotonin activates cells within the cerebellum that increase insulin transport into the brain. This supports why a diet low in bcaa's increase metabolic health is because bcaa's compete with tryptophan for metabolism and this increases cortisol release and cms.
The loss of insulin sensitivity also reduces bcaa catabolism in the body which promotes tumor growth and acceleration of aging
Read the studies
Wont reply to anyone not linking to a study to back their claims up.

[Anonymous No.14570196]

>>14566937
kek!
wait...
that shit is real! :(

[Anonymous No.14570231]

>>14570169
How are your teeth dude?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ

[Anonymous No.14570234]

>>14570231
see >>14570169
>Wont reply to anyone not linking to a study to back their claims up.

[Anonymous No.14570253]

>>14570234
see evidence presented of long term vegan youtubers>>14570231

[Anonymous No.14570257]

>>14570253
see >>14570169
>Wont reply to anyone not linking to a study to back their claims up.
>study

[Anonymous No.14570266]

>>14570257
see>>14570231

[Anonymous No.14570278]

>>14570266
eating all that meat seems to have severely impacted your reading comprehension through leaked bacterial endotoxins promoting inflammation and insulin resistance throughout your entire body.
I accept your concession. Goodbye.

[Anonymous No.14570326]

>>14570278
>insulin resistance
which is only caused by carbohydrates. kek

[Anonymous No.14570381]

>>14570278
Your unwillingness to answer a simple question about dental health speaks for itself.

[Anonymous No.14570812]

>>14570164
>how come someone goes as far as to posting sources
I don't see a single source in OP's post. There's a mention of Roy Swank, that's about it.

>Saturated fats and animal protein promote dysfunction in the gastrointestinal barrier leading to a leaky gut that allows bacterial endotoxins into our bloodstream.
Bullshit.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22150547/

>Endotoxins promote the breakdown of the blood-brain barrier allowing kynurenic acid and quinolinic acid into the brain Endotoxins promote inflammation and insulin resistance within the brain
Great! I guess it's best to consume saturated fat to seal up those junctures, right? Your whole theory is based on faulty reasoning from the very beginning because saturated fat has been shown to both directly improve gut function and protect against damage from endotoxin.

>Directly increasing neuronal insulin sensitivity increases metabolic homeostasis and BCAA catabolism. The failure of BCAA catabolism aggravates organ fibrosis, cancer growth, etc
You're all over the freaking place. Your first post blamed accumulation of environmental toxins, then you blamed saturated fat, now your blaming proteins.

>Consuming a plant based diet promotes lower body iron accumulation than heme iron while having similar hemocrit levels.
Unless you consume a large amount of non-heme iron with vitamin c. How do you presume a person consuming a high amount of dairy will have high iron levels when dairy is both low in iron and the calcium inhibits iron absorption?

Per your point about serotonin and insulin, both cyproheptadine and metergoline are serotonin antagonists and they increase insulin sensitivity. SSRI's are known to worsen insulin resistance. Tryptophan restriction increases lifespan in test animals.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22255/

[Anonymous No.14570834]

vegetarianism is a mental illness and a bougie affectation.

[Anonymous No.14571334]

>>14570169
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28822266/#:~:text=This%20paper%20focuses%20on%20the,)%20and%20polyamines%20(PAs).

do your best with this one and i will come up with the rest

[Anonymous No.14571344]

>>14565124
>They ate 2 lbs of meat every single day and they were healthy individuals.
20 out of the 35 Kings of France suffered from gout.

[Anonymous No.14571411]

>>14570326
see >>14570234

[Anonymous No.14571500]

>>14571344
regular people suffered a lot more

[Anonymous No.14571525]

still eating meat, feeling awsome

[Anonymous No.14571528]

>>14571344
you're a poorfag and you are jealous of people who can afford better diets than yourself

[Anonymous No.14571838]

>>14571525
until you die at 40 like your inuit ancestors. Show me one Inuit who lived to 100, I'll wait

[Anonymous No.14571842]

>>14571525
>awsome
looks like the cognitive decline already took place

[Pax No.14571960]

>>14570164
>>14570169
Goddamn anon!! You made me smile today. Thanks for going through the effort to evaluate my claims and provide data to support my arguments.

[Anonymous No.14572964]

>>14571838
>until you die at 40 like your inuit ancestors. Show me one Inuit who lived to 100, I'll wait
No that anon, but do you really think a diet primarily composed of fish and marine mammals (extremely high in fat, in particular polyunsaturated fat, which is supposedly healthy based on OP's post), in an environment that is freezing and harsh, is at all comparable to someone who eats some chicken or beef a few times a week? The Inuit also have genetic quirks, like an inability to go into ketosis.

https://www.cell.com/ajhg/fulltext/S0002-9297(14)00422-4

[Anonymous No.14572979]

>>14570164
>string theory fag is also a vegan schizo
wow. not surprised, desu.

[Anonymous No.14572997]

man, reading this thread was a real treat. but not as big of a treat as the whole rotisserie chicken i ate while reading this thread. you vegan DYELers are sad giga copers.

[Anonymous No.14573030]

>>14564533
>he eats vegetables covered in pesticide, irrigated with dirty watter, and full of phytotoxins
If anything, many animals do the work of breaking down hazardous compounds for us. What, do you think chickens don't have livers and kidneys? Your same propositions could be the basis for the oppsite argument. You are full of shit.

[Anonymous No.14573040]

>>14564533
Go to the vegan board
>>>/lgbt/

[Anonymous No.14573085]

>>14566891
Fiber fucks up people guts. Humans can't digest it. It just scrapes it's way through the digestive system.

[Anonymous No.14573092]

>>14573085
the bacteria in your gut that are responsible for making 70% of the neurotransmitters your brain uses for its brainlet shitposting digest the fiber, anon

youre supposed to shit every day, its not fucking up your guts, it turns out its actually healthier than a rock of condenssed meat shit tearing your asshole open twice a week

[Anonymous No.14573098]

>>14572997
Based carnid.

[Anonymous No.14573106]

>>14571838
>>14564533
Looks like carbs are actually killing the inuits.

Markedly increased intake of refined carbohydrates and sugar is associated with the rise of coronary heart disease and diabetes among the Alaskan Inuit
https://openheart.bmj.com/content/4/2/e000673

[Anonymous No.14573123]

>>14564533
>>14571838
Looks like prior to eating carbs, they were seen as a people completely free of heart disease. and diabetes.

Cardiovascular burden and related risk factors among Nunavik (Quebec) Inuit: Insights from baseline findings in the circumpolar Inuit Health in Transition cohort study
>The Inuit are commonly portrayed to be somehow protected from cardiovascular diseases (CVDs) through their traditional lifestyle and diet. However, actual sociocultural transition and related major, modifiable risk factors have scarcely been quantified in the Inuit population. Such knowledge is extremely valuable in terms of public health intervention
>Studies undertaken during the 1960s and 1970s suggested that the Inuit were protected from some cardiovascular diseases (CVDs) such as coronary artery disease (CAD) and ischemic heart disease (IHD) (1,2). Moreover, Arctic populations seemed to be spared by the diabetes epidemic experienced by many North American-Indian groups (3–7). The traditional Inuit lifestyle involved vigorous physical activities, and the consumption of products from fishing, hunting and berry picking is believed to support good health status, particularly at the cardiovascular level
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2903990/

[Anonymous No.14573125]

>>14573106
Comparing vegetable predominant diets to refined carb/sugar diets is disingenuous. I'm not even a big fan of vegetarian diets myself, but it's pretty obvious refined carbs aren't good for you, that doesn't mean something like a diet of 90% vegetables wouldn't be superior.

[Anonymous No.14573181]

>>14573092
>the bacteria in your gut that are responsible for making 70% of the neurotransmitters your brain uses for its brainlet
They don't cross the blood brain barrier. Any neurotransmitters the brain uses are produced endogenously.

[Anonymous No.14573186]

>>14573125
>Comparing vegetable predominant diets to refined carb/sugar diets is disingenuous
I didn't do that. I just posted a link about how carbs are killing inuits. If anything the OP was being disingenuous by using slight of hand to put forth the idea that it is meat which is killing these inuits when in fact it's plant based carbs which are killing them. Yes, refined carbs and sugar are plant based just by the way. By the way, vegetables are made of sugar. Usually fructose or starch, which is a chain of glucose. Veggies are also full of anti-nutrients as a defence mechanism to harm the animal which eats them. Also, by the way, if they were free of heart disease and diabetes, then I don't see what help eating a bunch of plant produce would do. They were already getting the vits and minerals they needed, without all the nutrient binding toxins in plant produce.

[Anonymous No.14573188]

>>14573125
What veggies, though? A diet has to have plenty of fat, or carbs. One or the other, or both. So basically potatoes, or rice, or beans, or some other starch for carbs, or a shitload of nuts, avocados, or olives.

[Anonymous No.14573204]

>>14573085
>It just scrapes it's way through the digestive system.
yeah, all the old moldy stuff, like tartar between ones gums, increasing the surface area of the villi and providing a mixing vector the ones digestate.

source, my ass
(comfy shits > constipated diahreea)

[Anonymous No.14573226]

>>14564533
Also, you neglected to mention that these particular people eat mostly whale meat and fat and seal meat. These are low in selenium. Selenium counteracts mercury. Fish like wild caught salmon have high selenium, which counteracts mercury.
http://net-effects.und.edu/pdfs/Selenium-Mercury.pdf
You also neglect to mention that the same chemicals and more can be found in vegetables and fruits. The pollution, such as mercury from electricity production, get into the water table through rain and other means and get into plants. And then there are all of the other pollutants in plants through their own indigenous pesticides and man made pesticides and toxic fertilizers. Very shameful and misleading post OP.

[Anonymous No.14573227]

>>14573186
I'm just saying there's a massive difference between the carbohydrates you get from vegetables vs refined carbs. Saying "oh yeah the inuit, yeah they're getting heart disease from all the sugar they eat" isn't an argument against a predominantly vegetable, whole grain and legume based diet.

Also the phytochemicals in plants aren't a problem. Your body has coevolved with phytochemicals actually, we've been consuming them since we became a species, and in fact your body coopts phytochemicals to fight off cancer and other chronic diseases, they're linked to lower inflammation and healthier immune systems. It's called a beneficial stressor, your body anticipates plant chemicals and adapts to them.
>https://www.mdanderson.org/publications/focused-on-health/phytochemicals-and-cancer-what-you-should-know.h10-1591413.html

Retards don't realize that the inuit are a massive outlier in our evolutionary history, their pancreases have evolved to be beefy, way stronger than normal people's. If all you consumed was meat your pancreas is going to get destroyed, whether by infections or cancer, the inuit have evolved to cope with this to an extent.

[Anonymous No.14573293]

>>14573227
>Also the phytochemicals in plants aren't a problem
They are. Spinich for example binds magnesium. Spinach is one of the highest in oxalates.
Fractional magnesium absorption is significantly lower in human subjects from a meal served with an oxalate-rich vegetable, spinach, as compared with a meal served with kale, a vegetable with a low oxalate content
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15035687/
>Retards don't realize that the inuit are a massive outlier in our evolutionary history, their pancreases have evolved to be beefy, way stronger than normal people's. If all you consumed was meat your pancreas is going to get destroyed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUKOlD2OCPc

[Anonymous No.14573347]

eating meat, vodka, with based friends, it's amazing. real infection is YOU.

[Anonymous No.14573377]

>>14564533
Steak is life

[Anonymous No.14573441]

>>14565918
The issue is that people conflate the issue of amount versus substance. Full stop, America’s problem is people are eating too much. Actual diet literally is not a factor outside of the amount of food being consumed. None of these studies matter to people that are obese/overweight.

[Anonymous No.14573466]

>>14573293
Just because it's lower doesnt mean you dont get enough nutrients. For instance vitamins arent recommended because you already get more than enough vitamins from a normal diet. More isnt always a good thing especially when talking about food.

[Anonymous No.14573772]

>>14573466
>For instance vitamins arent recommended because you already get more than enough vitamins from a normal diet.
Define normal. I contend many people are deficient in multiple vitamins (and minerals), which is probably exacerbating their insulin sensitivity among other things. Many of the RDAs for micronutrients were defined based on avoidance of extreme nutrient deficiency, but they're generally insufficient. A quality diet can meet them, but you're still contending with a general loss of nutrient density if you're not growing your own food.

[Anonymous No.14573778]

>>14564533
Just get meat from better sources.

[Anonymous No.14574503]

>>14572964
>https://www.cell.com/ajhg/fulltext/S0002-9297(14)00422-4
interesting, thanks. Could it be that these inuit evolved a winter sleep mechanism of sorts? It just seems that with combined hypoglycaemia and hypoketosis, the overall energy expenditure must drop massively.

[Anonymous No.14574508]

>>14573227
>their pancreases have evolved to be beefy, way stronger than normal people's. If all you consumed was meat your pancreas is going to get destroyed,

[Anonymous No.14574550]

>>14573125
no need for amusing, refined carbs and vegetables at this very point are the same considering from vegetables side:

that right now they has been bred to have the best flavor i.e have incomparable fructose levels to their ancestors
are still covered in toxins secreted by the plant to protect itself and keep the eater out poisoning it

as a matter fact, wheat and sugar cane that composes the most refined carbs are in fact the same killers they are in the scientifically bred form. you taking the industry chemicals out the equation doesn't even matter in the end of the day: the plant inserts its own.

[Anonymous No.14574557]

>>14573125
>>14573227
>>14573293
also you look like you're the retarded OP, so i'll link you your sources
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4289646/#:~:text=Phytochemicals%20are%20found%20in%20various,because%20they%20are%20produced%20naturally.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6160559/#:~:text=Some%20harmful%20effects%20have%20been,or%20heart%20disease%20(46).

waiting for your response to other posts that linked you the sources you asked for and you didn't repplied, if this silence is defeat, desconsider then.
>>14570812
>>14571334

[Anonymous No.14574624]

and here are some more of links that you have asked for that i will be patiently waiting for your response

Zonulin and Its Regulation of Intestinal Barrier Function: The Biological Door to Inflammation, Autoimmunity, and Cancer
https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/physrev.00003.2008?view=long&pmid=21248165

Polyphenols and phytic acid contribute to the low iron bioavailability from common beans in young women
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20861210/

An Insight into Saponins from Quinoa (Chenopodium quinoa Willd): A Review
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7179108/#:~:text=Saponins%20are%20an%20important%20group,effects%2C%20which%20necessitates%20their%20elimination.

Beef tallow increases apoptosis and decreases aberrant crypt foci formation relative to basedbean oil in rat colon
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15572298/


later on i will post some more. also carnibros i will be compilling this into one copypasta later to make it easier to humilliate vegans

[Anonymous No.14574787]

>>14574624
>trusting nutrition science
Ngmi

[Anonymous No.14574899]

>>14565819
I agree with this guy.

I am an athlete and I do a tremendous amount of cardio and gym work throughout the week. If I skip protein intakes for several days I feel fatigued and tired. Carbohydrates do not satiate my hunger.

I am a predator and I eat sheep
Also Joe Rogan wild caught venison bow hunting

[Anonymous No.14574905]

meat is good for me because i don't want to live an extra 5 years being a faggot my whole life

[Anonymous No.14574911]

>>14564533
i hate when my inuit milk is full of printed circuit boards

[Anonymous No.14574917]

The human body can tolerate some remarkably high metal levels.

[Anonymous No.14574922]

>>14574899
>Joe Rogan
Bro be wary of Rogan.

[Anonymous No.14575023]

>>14574899
What a faggot lmao.

[Anonymous No.14575273]

>>14564533
so it kills meat eaters faster
so it's the environmentally friendly option, no?

[Anonymous No.14575370]

>>14575023
Eating plants like a homo and I'm the fagote?

The best meat is liver and other organs though. Muscle isn't that nutritious.

[Anonymous No.14575390]

>>14575370
Eating organs such as liver could lead to hypervitaminosis A

[Anonymous No.14575783]

>>14575390
only case of hypervitaminosis A from food registered is with polar bear liver the rest is from supps

BTFO

[Anonymous No.14575865]

>>14564860
i'm not doing it at all lmao

[Anonymous No.14575872]

>>14572997
reporting back in this thread... i just ate more chicken. when will you vegans learn?

[Anonymous No.14575877]

>>14575872
lmao this pathetic ass nigga eatin typical ass chikkin, get into the fish gaem bitch nigger

[Anonymous No.14575883]

>>14575877
salmon is good, but more annoying to make. chicken is ez mode and has plenty of protein

[Anonymous No.14576047]

>>14574624
My entire gut biome was fucked by extreme levels of cortisol and noradrenaline from taking prescribed adhd medication (Ritalin)
>Started a carnivore diet
>a couple days after adjusting digestion was better than ever before
>testosterone and drive was through the roof
>actually happy
>could actually meditate

Fk the vegan shills
Take the meaty red carnivore pill


Looking forward to the copy pasta my man.

[Anonymous No.14576083]

>>14564533
Men eat beef
fags eat sneeds and breads

[Anonymous No.14576092]

>>14564533
Guess what friend? There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that meat eaters live less than vegetarians and vegans. All you're doing by giving up meat is trading heart disease for liver and kidney failure.

Congrats

[Anonymous No.14576207]

>>14574899
>I am a predator and I eat sheep
You fuck them too don’t you anon?

[Anonymous No.14576215]

>>14575872
That is the plate of an incel.

[Anonymous No.14577762]

>>14575783
Probably because very few people eat organs since they're nasty. If you regularly ate beef liver you'd be overdosing on vitamin A and B12. For example, a pound of liver would be roughly 50 times the RDA of vitamin A and more than a 100 times for B12. They're also extremely high in cholesterol and saturated fats. A small amount every so often might be a good idea, but a pure carnivore diet with heavy consumption of organs would fuck you up.

[Anonymous No.14578005]

>>14575865
>lmao

newfag spotted

[Anonymous No.14578119]

I won't live forever anyway. Meanwhile meat is delicious.

[Anonymous No.14578321]

>>14577762
Not that guy but is there anything wrong with ingesting a huge amount of b12? I thought you just pissed it out.

[Anonymous No.14578351]

>>14564533
>Their breastmilk is considered industrial waste by the EPA because it's so fucking high in PCBs.
bullshit

[Anonymous No.14578429]

more chicken. vegans can go to hell.

[Anonymous No.14578437]

>>14578429
You should balance that out with some broccoli and brown rice.

[Anonymous No.14578811]

give it to me straight y'all. How long can one go on egg, ground beef, black beans, brown rice, tomateo salsa and tortilla.

And, also importantly should I actually try to mix up some locust taco like https://www.quericavida.com/recipes/grasshopper-tacos/35a7e337-7fb5-4ef3-b58b-50b7403b72ea

>>>14577742 and record my subjective changes in alertness, skin complexion, bloatyness, constipation level, emotion balance, and drive and ambition

[Anonymous No.14578888]

>>14578811
I mean I know a guy who literally ate ramen and pizza for three years straight. You can survive off anything.

[Anonymous No.14578908]

>>14577762
>Probably because very few people eat organs since they're nasty.
We already can see the dissonance with the rest of the actual world, not only being vegan is an illness but some kind of delay inside the time and space. Type in LIVER KING or rawmeatexperiment, no Instagram profile needed, just lurk, the first guy literally eats one pound of raw veal liver a day for years. Your whole argument is based on your opinion. I'll just greentext the first part having mercy up on your soul.

[Anonymous No.14578929]

>>14577762
I'll link you the first result because I know you will not look after your own defeat, so here it goes:

https://www.gq.com/story/in-the-court-of-the-liver-king-brian-johnson-ancestral-supplements#:~:text=The%20Liver%20King%20says%20he,understands%20the%20science%20behind%20it.

"The Liver King says he eats about a pound of raw liver each day, a quantity that he says is “way too much” for most organ novices, who should start with three ounces, two times a week. He says can manage the massive dose of folate, iron, and vitamins A and B because he understands the science behind it."

A little bit more: Liver King is a PIED user. That being said, his health is not in its prime, he can develop lots of diseases because he's putting his body on the target of anything that can kill. Anyways, still is a living old man, and still eats one pound of meat without
>overdosing on vitamin A and B12.
doesn't exhibit the symptoms of people who REALLY eats diets
>extremely high in cholesterol and saturated fats
cause, in fact, AGAIN, he eats a pound of liver everyday, which like you said is
>roughly 50 times the RDA of vitamin A and more than a 100 times for B12.
And I don't mind telling you that he doesn't not only eats liver, but the whole animal from nose-to-tail, classifying his diet as a "heavy consumption of organs", although doesn't exhibiting symptoms of being fucked up, you can see his everyday training routine.

At this very moment I think y'all just delusional. Just rewire your brain to stop associating something basic like meat with hatred, massacre and other degeneracies that only can pop out of the mind of a vegan and be happy.

[Anonymous No.14578933]

>>14578888
hahaha, i think I know a guy who did that too.

[Anonymous No.14578983]

>>14564533
Don't care. Everything can be bad for you. Fish, for instance, can be pretty terrible to eat due to the quantities of microplastics in the oceans that they consume.

[Anonymous No.14578992]

>>14568260
That screencap, kek.

[Anonymous No.14579116]

>>14578811
>How long can one go on egg, ground beef, black beans, brown rice, tomateo salsa and tortilla.
Sounds quite nutritious, actually.

[Anonymous No.14579127]

>>14578811
would probably be fine desu but lacking greens, add some spinach or broccoli or green pepper or something and youre gucci

[Anonymous No.14579380]

>>14567069
>>14566975

>LOOK AT WHAT GOOKIS CHONG WROTE HERE READ IT
>IGNORE ALL OF MODERN BIOCHEMISTRY KNOWLEDGE AND DECADES OF SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH
>IT'S ALL A CONSPIRACY

lmao

[Anonymous No.14579403]

>>14578929
>sample size of 1

Not even vegan, just pointing out the absurdity of the other extreme which acts like eating bacon everyday is healthy while saying silly shit like broccoli is bad for you because of pesticides. A moderate path like the Mediterranean diet seems optimal.

I'd like to see large scale studies establishing the efficacy of eating organs to such an excess. Genetic analyses should also be done to see if that guy simply has alleles adapted for a high intake of cholesterol and vitamin A. After all, some people have genes which allow them to heavily smoke into their 90s. The emerging field of nutri-genomics will be very interesting since it seems very likely that different nutritional profiles are better suited for different people.

[Anonymous No.14580424]

>>14573085
>Fiber fucks up people guts. Humans can't digest it. It just scrapes it's way through the digestive system.
I shit much better when I eat basically no fiber.
Grew up eating whole wheat bread and brown rice because that's what my parents thought was healthy. Didn't realize it at the time but was always constipated, every shit was hard turds that I had to sit on the toilet for 20 minutes to finish shitting out, frequent stomach aches.
As soon as I grew up and started buying my own food (white bread and rice, etc.) no more constipation.
I currently take a huge, smooth shit every single day without fail and never get stomach aches. Only fiber I get is from the occasional beans and frosted mini wheats. I do eat greek yogurt daily.
I'm convinced to this day that fiber is a massive lie. My parents don't shit good, by the way, and never have, and they are still on their high fiber, whole wheat everything diet to this day. They think they need to eat yet more fiber to solve the problem.

[Anonymous No.14580427]

>>14579403
Don't worry, he's not alone, you can search for Raw Primal Diet, Aajonus Vonderplanitz, the already quoted rawmeatexperiment, basically all these guys have legions of people right now eating tons of organs raw, most of these people already ate like this before the arrive of internet, but there's plenty content on YT.

You are just cherrypicking what you want to see.

[Anonymous No.14580428]

>>14564533
ok

[Anonymous No.14580447]

>>14579380
are you trying to get me to post my 6'0 139 lbs swimmer frame?

some days eggs are good 4 you
some days its just the whites
some days they are bad for you
some days coffee is good
some days its bad

maybe the reason there is no concensus on nutrition, is that there is no one-size-fits-all solution to our varied genetic make ups. Even by Darwins beaks, if a a family have been subsisting on buffalo and pine tree nuts for millenia, how can you expect them to digest something new and different? Like every native I see is bloated, pastied face, obese and emotionally irritated, and a majority seem to go back to normal when they eat ancestrally.

We've listened to your nutrition experts, and found them lacking criticisms on their subconsious p-hacking to keep their jobs

I'm just saying, do what works for you

[Anonymous No.14580547]

>>14580447
>Thinks natives are getting fat because they’re following modern nutrition guidelines

The absolute state of this board.

[Anonymous No.14581708]

>>14580547
negatory, I'm saying that they get much more fat/bloated/pimpled/hyptoglycemic from a chocolate bar or white toast than the average person.

and that in switching from a high carb diet to a high protein diet has seen great success in overall health.

[Anonymous No.14581947]

>>14581708
>proving my point even more.

[Anonymous No.14582071]

>>14577762
>cholesterol bad

[Anonymous No.14582079]

>>14580447
>6'0 139 lbs swimmer frame?
JFC! You must look like this! Do you have ANY testosterone left? LMAO!

[Anonymous No.14582834]

>>14565280
based and true

[Anonymous No.14584550]

bump

[Anonymous No.14584574]

>>14580447
>pretends to know nutrition
>is lanky and one fall away from breaking every bone in his body
every time.

[Anonymous No.14584659]

I'm seventy-nine and in good health. Cholesterol, BP, Triglycerides are all fine. Mentally alert, use a phone and laptop with ease. Eat a balanced diet. Eat meat regularly. Don't smoke or drink, at all. Just use your head in all things. Life is good. Still fuck with regulatity.

[Anonymous No.14584715]

>>14584550
>the vegetarian is too low iq to be able to make a substantive reply to it's own vanity thread
>the low iq vegetarian paradoxically thinks that it's selfish political message is too important to 404, but also not important enough to justify the effort involved in making a worthwhile post
>the low iq vegetarian is too dumb to recognize it's own paradoxical, irrational thinking
why are vegetarians all so low iq? diet induced?

[Anonymous No.14584775]

>>14580547
>following modern nutrition guidelines
Modern nutrition guidelines are trash.

[Anonymous No.14584834]

>>14564533
OP, have you researched the use of ractopamine in animal feed within the United States since 2000? It's supposedly banned in over a hundred countries, including Russia and China of all places. Might help add to your argument.

[Anonymous No.14586908]

Chicken and Sardines are healthier than this carb-laden food pyramid brainwash crap, yet my girlfriend left me.
I guess I do seem more poor now that I've eliminated carbs and starches from my diet. Still.