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14553458 No.14553458 [Reply] [Original]

Why can't we maintain uninterrupted consciousness for more than 24 hours? It fades as we go asleep.

>> No.14553473

>>14553458
There must be a down-time for them to perform updates on us.

>> No.14553480

>>14553458
But we do maintain uninterrupted subjective experience. You're not aware of the downtime. Our conscious experience is seamless.

>> No.14553498

>>14553458
>evolution
>rotating earth
>need for repairing neurons and draining the byproducts

>> No.14553755

>>14553480
>we do maintain uninterrupted subjective experience
when under anesthesia?

>> No.14553780

>>14553458
How do you know it goes away? You may be experiencing, but the memory part of experience isn't there.

>> No.14553790

>>14553755
Best example I can think of. One minute you're in the OR, seamlessly you're in recovery. I've been under ten times.

>> No.14553809

>>14553498
This is as good of an answer your gonna get

>> No.14554545

>>14553458
haven't found a way to sleep with open thoughts. The body needs to recover in some way

>> No.14554562

>>14553755
Yes that's part of why it's creepy. The fact that first person we always existed, the weird jumps through time under anaesthetic, and the similar first person fact that for us we won't ever experience end... A last moment of awareness. No moment inside the end.

Idno. Creepy.

>> No.14554566

>>14553458
Do flamingos? Isn't half of them asleep while the other is awake, and then the other way round?

>> No.14554937

>>14554566
what is your point here? global consciousness?

>> No.14554960

>>14554937
What? I'm saying can't Flamingos maintain it 24/7? Since they do that weird half sleep shit.

>> No.14554973

>>14553480
>>14553755
We are always fully conscious, even when asleep. The reason it seems we are unconscious is that we are not forming memories while asleep.
This is why you sometimes remember being awake seconds before something wakes you up.

>> No.14555445

>>14553458
Because consciousness isn't a "thing." Its a function of our brain receiving more sensory signals from one aspect of our senses. If you see something colorful, "the consciousness" would be on that. If you hear something strange, "the consciousness" would be on that.

You can do the same thing by creating a mesh of pipes with water flowing through them. If you have the same flow rate/pressure from the hose, you get a steady rate. If one of the pipe has much higher water pressure, that will dominate the direction of the end flow rate.

So in context, "uninterrupted" consciousness cannot exist for more than few seconds/minutes at best. The brain will automatically move to the next strongest signal it receives from our senses. Unless you're in a sensory depravation tank or some quiet place where you could meditate without moving so much. Then you can experience "uninterupted" consciousness for more than few minutes at a time.
In our normal daily lives, there is no such thing as "uninterupted" consciousness. Interrupts are part of how we deal with changing reality. More so its necessary to deal with dynamic environments as a way to survive against threats.

>> No.14555469

I think that existence is a purely physical phenomena that is not tied to a single existence. With all the existential questions of cloning someone, I think it would be viable and would work. Why I think that? Because there is nothing to make your consciousness unique, or tie it to a single existence. And so, if physically replicated, you would still live and experience as that clone. Just as sleeping and waking up, you would die and seamlessly live as the clone with all the memories the clone has, because your entire consciousness and existence is defined by physical patterns.

When you truly die, I believe you will just get reborn. Without any memories and all, but just live as another person or whatever being there happens to be with the same "neural architecture" that we have that allows such advanced levels of self-referential awareness.

>> No.14555471

>>14555469
I think that consciousness is a purely physical phenomena that is not tied to a single existence.*

Way to ruin it. I knew I should have re-read it.

>> No.14555474
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14555474

>>14555445
Now imagine working in an assembly-line environment ...

>> No.14555475

>>14555469
If someone created an exact copy of you then you'd be okay with killing the original you?

>> No.14555479

>>14555445
>a mesh of water pipes can be conscious
Yikes

>> No.14555529

>ctrl + f
>lucid dreaming
>zero responses
this is the worse board on this entire site, I truly mean that

>> No.14555682

>>14555474
The brain learns to tune out the mundane.

>> No.14556737

>>14555475
Yeah.

>> No.14557001

>>14555475
"Exact" is not possible according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle
and close enough is not enough.

>> No.14557287

>>14554973
>We are always fully conscious, even when asleep.
No.
>The reason it seems we are unconscious is that we are not forming memories while asleep.
No, it's because you aren't conscious you dip.

>> No.14557289

>>14555529
Make your own lucid dreaming post then you whiny faggot.

>> No.14557296

>>14555529
If you're trying to passive-aggressively imply lucid dreaming contradicts op saying consciousness fades with sleep then you're an idiot. Nobody lucid dreams the entire night they're asleep or even a quarter of the night.

>> No.14558343

>>14553458
This is phenomenal consciousness only. You are still conscious on another level even when you sleep.

>> No.14558687

>>14558343
Tell us more, father.

>> No.14559022

>>14557296
How can you be so certain? What if I told you I know of a way to not only retain your conscious thoughts while asleep, but be self aware you're doing it and able to control the dream itself.
I'm finding more and more proof over the years that humans simply do not experiment with sleeping or their subconsciousness that much. Not because they don't want to, but because they don't have the time or access to the materials and science to do so. Take 10g+ of psilocybin mushrooms and go straight to sleep before the effects kick in. See what happens. You can thank me later.

>> No.14560135

>>14553473
fpbp

>> No.14560517

>>14559022
is this legal?

>> No.14560532

>>14555445
>Go on a board like /sci/, /his/ or /lit/ and try to argue that subjective experience exists. An army of NPCs will come out of the woodwork giving you Alexa-tier search engine results about how soience has proven you're nothing but a hunk of warm wet meat and objective reality is all that exists.

Then why are we the only animals to have consciousness or conscience, i.e the intelligence we have, thoughts, etc.?

>> No.14560535

>>14560517
Are you retarded or do you not know anyone who can hook you up with them?

>> No.14560666

I once fell asleep while being able to consciously, awarely, visually watch my consciousness enter the REM state. Everything turned black and white spots flashed sometimes. This was unsatisfactory information to a pattern-seeking and -generating brain, so it gradually turned the white specks into snowflakes, and then a wintery snowscape, where I was lucid.

The brain is a hecking DeeppDream machine. I wonder where they got the "deepdream" moniker for their ANN from.

>> No.14561340

>>14560535
Just pointing out how ridiculous the claims are

>> No.14561345
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14561345

>>14560135
the plot of Dark City

>> No.14561347

>>14555682
a new normal?

>> No.14561486

>>14559022
>I'm finding more and more proof over the years that humans simply do not experiment with sleeping or their subconsciousness that much.
There have been over a hundred billion human lives by now, anon. Pretty sure every idea or activity you think is uncommon has been done to stupidly excessive degrees already since long before your grandparents were even born.

>> No.14561508

>>14555475
Better question: You have brain cancer. They need to remove 10% of your brain (or, for the sake of argument, the place of your brain where your consciousness is stored), but medical science has advanced to the point where we can replace it with cybernetics. After the surgery, are you still "you"?
What if the percentage is higher? 20%? 30%? 99%? 100%? What if you go through two surgeries, replacing 50% the first time, then a few weeks later the other 50%? What if you do it under local anesthetic instead of general so that you're "awake" during the entire surgery?

>> No.14561521

>>14553458
you aren't even conscious for all of your waking hours.
This becomes noticeable if you stay awake for more than 24 hours at a time. You are in a kind of waking sleep. You'll be doing something, and just kind of drift off, and then all of the sudden your consciousness snaps back in and it feels like you had a time loss.

>> No.14561671
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>>14561508
This is the overarching philosophical quandary of Ghost in the Shell.

The protagonist is a human that lost her body in an accident as a child and was completely replaced, uploaded bit by bit with a cyberbrain in a robot body. Now many people are opting for a cyberbrain and the question becomes what of "them" is left? That's the "ghost" portion of the argument.

>> No.14561684

>>14561671
we can not measure, much less copy in our world according to the uncertainty principle. You can make a better you, but it is not going to be you.

>> No.14561746

>>14561684
This is why I mentioned GiTS.
Its mostly cyborgs wondering if they're even the people they once were, and what identity truly means.

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>>14561746
you can't copy that floppy

>> No.14561949

>>14561508
This "ship of Theseus" argument is wrongly used by functionalist brainlets. Yes, most likely replacing neuron after neuron with functionally equivalent parts will only lead to minimal changes in consciousness. Nonetheless, building the same structures artificially in a separate place will not yield a conscious entity.

>> No.14562278

>>14553458
You've obviously never smoked meth.

>> No.14562367
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14562367

>>14562278
does the brain communicate with other organs? if so which are those and is the communication bidirectional?

>> No.14562598

>>14561949
Why not?

>> No.14562606

>>14561949
It actually fails on multiple fronts considering we don't even replace the neuronal tissue involved in higher order thinking.

>> No.14562608

>>14560532
You actually believe other animals aren't aware? Are you actually insane?

Btw, other animals do have some social structures but they tend to be very basic outside of specific animals... Usually revolving around play for the majority including rats and dogs. One of the playmates bites too hard and the partner yelps and disengages play. This is how puppies learn bite inhibition.

>> No.14562610

>>14561508
You're probably going to gradually turn into an NPC. "But draw an arbitrary line in the sand where a person becomes an NPC" type arguments are jewish midwittery based on irrelevant artificial dichotomies.

>> No.14562613

>>14562610
What?????

>> No.14562614

>>14562608
Social behavior does not require conscious experience. NPCs are in fact the people who socialize the most.

>> No.14562619

>>14562610
Based. And thanks for pointing out the rabulistic nature of the sorites fallacy. "Hurr durr how many trees are a forest" is just prime sophistry.

>> No.14562620

>>14562613
What part of it did you not understand? If you start gradually replacing your brain with artificial components meant to emulate the apparent behavior of neurons, you'll probably gradually turn into an NPC.

>> No.14562629

Just because you've taught your brain to never memorize dreams, it doesn't prove that these dreams don't happen.

>> No.14562635

>>14562367
all of them; yes

>> No.14562641
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>>14562620
but I need to know where the line in the sand is, so I can get close to creepy but not creepy creepy

>> No.14562642

>>14562613
He's an NPC, don't mind him

>> No.14562648

>>14562635
any chance some of them may act in a controlling capacity over brain?

>> No.14562650

>>14562629
I've been studying my dreams lately and have hit upon a few interesting observations.

Not only are you almost never aware of the dream state i.e. "lucid" dreaming, but there are other things conspicuous in their absence.

Take for instance an overarching worry. If my car is making a funny sound that indicates something has gone seriously wrong, I'm going to "carry" that concern into my waking life. As soon as I am conscious after a long night's sleep, it is probably the first thing my mind will think about, "fuck, my car is going to shit, I can't pay for this right now!"

In a seemingly long and detailed dream, those overarching concerns are simply absent from the experience, along with your awareness of being in a dream.

Its weird.

>> No.14562663

>>14562650
Is "lucid dreaming" an NPC thing? Why do people pretend it is something special or extraordinary? I am always aware and in control in my dreams.

>> No.14562675

>>14562663
I think too much importance is put on it. While I'm skeptical of your claim, I have witnessed the phenomena myself probably ten times over my life, usually indicating a transition back to my waking state.

Anecdotally, when I became aware of my dream as a child I would spend the remainder flying.

As an adult, I manifest a blowjob. Sad if you think about it.

>> No.14562686

>>14562614
NPCs aren't real. Are you srs? Animals are aware. Other humans are aware... "Existence is aware".

If you believe in NPCs at least be coherent and go the full way to subjective solipsism. This bizarre "Detroit Become Human" tier middle ground is bullshit.

>> No.14562687

>>14562675
I usually turn my dreams into either horror movies with zombies or complex torture scenarios. Both are less horrifying than the reality I live in though.

>> No.14562694

>>14562686
I just indulge him. the NPC term is so ingrained as to be safely ignored when encountered. Blame Chalmers.

>> No.14562695

>>14562687
Maybe you're trying to "reinforce" your coping mechanisms for very bad situations. Not the most useless practice.

>> No.14562697

>>14562686
>NPCs aren't real. Are you srs?
Spoken like a true NPC.

>subjective solipsism
Distributed solipsism is better.

>> No.14562698

>>14562686
>>14562694
>t. literal NPCs
>Blame Chalmers.
And this particular NPC is glitching out like broken NES.

>> No.14562701

>>14562698
>glitching out like broken NES.
Well, then take it out and blow on it for me.

>> No.14562703

>>14562694
Chalmers is an NPC too. He believes in functionalism and doesn't see what's wrong with the above mentioned "ship of Theseus" argument.

>> No.14562709

All of you are worthless NPCs. Why should I take anyone of you seriously?

>> No.14562710
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14562710

>The conscious individual's guide to internet debates
>"Everyone who disagrees with me is an NPC"
Prove me wrong.

>> No.14562711

>>14562703
Nagel and to a lesser degree Chalmers are why you think an NPC is possible in the first place. Its academically codified idiocy. I'm a reductive materialist. If the the walking, talking, shitting functions are present, then so is self-reflection. There are no NPCs. There are no p-zombies.

>> No.14562715

>>14562710
u're an NPC sweatie

>> No.14562719

>>14562711
Of course a p-zombie would assert "there are no p-zombies", as she cannot imagine the possibility of people having conscious experience.

>> No.14562729

>>14562719
I just had the internal experience of picturing a bright red apple being shoved far up your ass with broom handle.

>> No.14562732

>>14562729
Good luck reducing this to physical processes.

>> No.14562736

>>14562711
>Nagel and to a lesser degree Chalmers are why you think an NPC is possible in the first place
Your meds. Take 'em. Right now.

> I'm a reductive materialist.
So a literal p-zombie.

>There are no NPCs. There are no p-zombies.
p-zombies and NPCs are not even remotely synonymous, you 90 IQ drone.

>> No.14562774

>>14562697
NPC theory is just narcissist cope, not a real proposal. You aren't the only conscious human or animal. You aren't more special than a rock or, conversely, less important than a solar system (so I mean, at least there's that).

>> No.14562775

>>14562774
GPT-2-tier NPC post.

>> No.14562783

>>14562775
NPC now stands for "Narcissistic Person Coping". You are an NPC. Umad?

>> No.14562784

>>14562783
Why would you dispute the concept of an NPC unless you are an NPC yourself?

>> No.14562793

>>14562784
Because it's an idiotic idea... It's not coherent at all. "Some people are conscious but only the ones I decide are". Like wat? It's bullshit. Obviously.

>> No.14562794

>>14562774
>You aren't the only conscious human
Never said I was. There are many conscious humans. But you are none of them.

>> No.14562797

>>14562794
Just what a bot would say. You've failed the test.

>> No.14562798

>>14562793
The idea is emprically supported by the huge number of drones who show no evidence of having any internal experience.

>> No.14562804

>>14562798
So be coherent: subjective solipsism. Zero evidence ANY human but you has inner experience. Picking and choosing based on your own biases, it's ridiculous.

>> No.14562805

>>14562797
>projecting

>> No.14562807

>>14562798
>evidence of internal experience
Yeah, I'm going to have to classify you as one of those drones

>> No.14562809

>>14562804
>So be coherent
You have not shown the idea of NPCs to be incoherent in any way.

>Zero evidence ANY human but you has inner experience
Is that what it looks like to an NPC who can't pick up on signs of genuine humanity?

>> No.14562810

>>14562804
Only to you the "picking and choosing" seems biased or arbitrary. To a conscious human being it's quite obvious who is an NPC and who isn't.

>> No.14562814

>>14562809
>Is that what it looks like to an NPC who can't pick up on signs of genuine humanity?
Why don't you tell us? You're the NPC here after all

>> No.14562820

>>14562814
>all this incoherent seething
Anyway, back to my question: why would you dispute the concept of an NPC unless you are an NPC yourself?

>> No.14562825

>>14562820
Sorry, I don't take NPCs like you seriously. Especially NPCs who don't answer the questions asked to them. Why do they even design defective things like you I wonder.

>> No.14562827

>>14562809
>>14562810
You're delusional or trolling. Srs.

Wtf is wrong with someone to invent this entire Truman Show type cope where secretly they are the main character? Dude, nobody even glances at you, nobody talks to you. It's not a conspiracy, you're just socially awkward.

Sheer cope. Irrational.

>> No.14562829

>>14562825
You didn't ask me any actual questions. You're only displaying the typical inabiltiy of an NPC to have a discussion.

>> No.14562831

>>14562827
>main character
Nice strawman. Having consciousness while others are NPCs doesn't imply any kind of plot or purpose. It's just an observational fact.

>> No.14562832

>>14562827
Why do you feel compelled to lash out at imaginary strawmen in your head? Why does the concept of an NPC trigger you so much?

>> No.14562833

>>14562829
Does anyone have any tips on how to get rid of this NPC? It keeps replying

>> No.14562838

>>14553458
nigger i havent slept in 3 years

>> No.14562841

>>14562833
The fact that you act the way you do and still don't understand how people would conclude you're nonhuman is actually pretty good evidence that you are, in fact, nonhuman.

>> No.14562842

>>14562831
It is easier than admitting the truth to yourself, that you aren't special, and in fact likely blend in as a background character more than 90% of people...
>>14562832
>/sci/
>Unscientific narcissist cope
>Not a coherent theory

If you want to argue by evidence, argue total Solipsism. Picking and choosing at your own whim is idiotic and based on nothing... Maybe you're an NPC. Evidence? I can tell by my feelings.

>> No.14562844

@14562841
Maybe it won't be triggered to reply again if I don't give it (You)s.

>> No.14562846

>>14555474
Its heaven if they leave you alone but IRL theres 100 persons banting and sharing their inside jokes and managers interrupt you to appear busy

>> No.14562847

>>14562842
>Picking and choosing at your own whim is idiotic and based on nothing
You can try to reframe it that way and keep asserting this fallacy, but you haven't actually substantiated it in any way.

>> No.14562849

>>14562842
>that you aren't special
Never said I was. Among the conscious people I'm not special. And rated by any other criteria (other than consciousness, IQ or education) I am not special either, even compared to NPCs. But my consciousness does distinguish me from NPCs like you.

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>>14562849
Any "person" who claims he's not an NPC is no true person.

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14562864

Notice how members of the nonhuman NPC horde all follow the same "no u" tactic. They are clearly incapable of forming thoughts or having a conversation.

>> No.14562866

>>14562847
My direct experience is that I know I'm seeing this screen, typing these words, sipping cherry coke, and watching TV.

There is no evidence you are a conscious being. Maybe I'll just designate you as an NPC. Unlike special me, one of the "chosen ones".
>>14562849
Literal cope. Literally a "coping mechanism". You are designating who is "conscious" based on who you like or dislike, or who agrees or disagrees with you.

Truman Show bullshit invented by people who are literally nobodies in the basement with no friends. That is literally what it is.......

>> No.14562871

>>14562866
>My direct experience is that I know I'm seeing this screen, typing these words, sipping cherry coke, and watching TV.
GPT-3 also claims to have "direct experience". I'm yet to see any compelling evidence that people like you are any more conscious than a chatbot.

>> No.14562874

>>14562864
Yes and as a "playable character" you should surely be rich and famous with a hot NPC girlfriend. You have special powers over most people.

>> No.14562884

>>14562844
>no reply
Looks like it actually worked! These NPCs are really easy to figure out.

>> No.14562885

>>14562866
>Literal cope. Literally a "coping mechanism". You are designating who is "conscious" based on who you like or dislike, or who agrees or disagrees with you.
Nope, I am working on a complete and rigorous list of criteria for recognizing NPCs. I won't share it in this ITT though because 1. I don't share incomplete results and 2. you wouldn't understand it.

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"NPC" is literally the zoomer version of sheeple. It's ironic how they completely lack any self-awareness.

>> No.14562893

>>14562874
Why did you reply to my post with a bunch of incoherent and irrelevant shart?

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>>14562890
The blatant irony of your post is fundamentally lost on you.

>> No.14562897

>>14562890
I'll even bet one of them really wants to reply
>muh reddit le xkcd bad
to this post but can no longer do it now that I've inb4ed them.

>> No.14562899

>>14562893
It's coherent. You're one of the "chosen ones" with superpowers over the NPC hordes. Where's your rockin' life? Surely with such power you should be easily manipulating the cyborg drones.

>> No.14562900

>>14562890
>unironically posting x-k-cancer-d webcomics in 2022
Yep, that goes on my list of NPC criteria.

>> No.14562901

>>14562897
>>14562896
Like pottery

>> No.14562902

>>14562899
>You're one of the "chosen ones" with superpowers over the NPC hordes.
What is this incongruent, schizophrenic drivel, and what does it have to do with my post?

>> No.14562904

>>14562896
If I was a robot I'd use my processor and software right now to put that shit in another thought bubble, with a lonely incel in the basement underneath that.

>> No.14562905

>>14562901
You can keep posting shart, but the bottom line is that a growing segment of the population no longer recognizes you as human, no longer accepts your "human rights", and rejects the legitimacy of your legal protections. They will kill you as soon as they have a chance.

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14562908

>>14562899
>consciousness is so mysterious and incomprehensible to the NPC that she thinks it's a "superpower"

>> No.14562909

>>14562897
>>14562900
You cannot make this shit up

>> No.14562911

>>14562904
>i would use my regurgitation software to shart out the standardized "no u" cope

>> No.14562913

>>14562905
>shart
>drivel
Who the fuck is this one single loser who uses this same vocab in literally every thread he posts in?

It's like that stupid dude who constantly writes "insofar". Is repetitive speech choices like that just autism?

>> No.14562914

>>14562913
See >>14562905

>> No.14562918

>>14562913
It's an NPC so it has to keep following that one posting pattern

>> No.14562920

>>14562908
You're special, bro. Unlike the drones. So why are you a friendless incel? It must be easy to manipulate mindless drones as such a special person.

>> No.14562922

>>14562920
>So why are you a friendless incel?
Because I'm an ugly manlet and I'm too moral to manipulate or lie to people.

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Notice how members of the nonhuman NPC horde all follow the same "no u" tactic. They are clearly incapable of forming thoughts or having a conversation.

>> No.14562928

>>14562914
This guy is a fucking retard, dudes. Why are we discussing bullshit like this instead of the nature of consciousness and reality?

Whenever you see "shart" or "drivel" remember this is who you are talking to. Just ignore immediately from then on.

>> No.14562930

>>14562924
>>14562864
Looks like it's broken, boys

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>dudes
>hey, my dudes
>where are you, my dudes?
>isn't this guy cringe, my guys?
>requesting confirmation
>what's the group consensus on this guy?

>> No.14562941

>>14562930
Just ignore, srs. You'll start noticing this autist retard in other threads, and when you realize he's just a dumbfuck, you know it's not even worthy of response...

Look out for "insofar" as well. You'll notice that guy around too. These are the two main autists here.

>> No.14562945
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>just ignore him, my man
>the group consensus is that he's doing wrongthink
It's unironically okay to kill these "people".

>> No.14562974

>>14562941
I know the posters quite well. Some signs you might want to look out for (other than "shart", "drivel" and soijak posting) are the :^) face, use of "sub 90 IQ" and talk about killing the perceived NPCs.

>> No.14562995
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NPC-detecting neural networks when? It shouldn't be too hard to create a language model based on MSM articles, popular YT video transcriptions and social media posts and use it to estimate the relative likelihood of a post in the context of the learned model. You could then objectively compute the NPC factor of a poster based on a sample of their posts.

>> No.14562998

>>14562941
>>14562974
I'll also add that the namefag schizo "bodhi" is another one in the same category as these two. He'll probably be posting here eventually.

>> No.14562999

>>14562998
just keep going until you add everyone who isn't a reddit comrade of yours to the cancel list. lol

>> No.14563000

>>14562995
https://retreat.guru/be/5-meo-dmt-retreats

Or just go there and you'll stop with the BS.

>> No.14563005

>>14562998
That guy believes he's "enlightened", yet is consistently angry, hateful, narcissistic (hence namefag), and the exact opposite of what a Buddha is supposed to look like. That's a weird one for sure.

>> No.14563007

>>14563000
Absolute bot post.

>> No.14563009

>>14562995
You could use that to make a normie-resilient version of /r9k/ that doesn't suck.

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>>14562864
>Notice how members of the nonhuman NPC horde all follow the same "no u" tactic. They are clearly incapable of forming thoughts or having a conversation.
but also
>hello fellow kids, i'm one of you regular autonomous lesions on the 4chomps, i post all the normal 4vhan content
>*incredibly unoriginal frog pic.png*

>> No.14563014

>>14563010
>incoherent response
>unrelated image
Typical bot post..

>> No.14563020

>>14563009
/r9k/ has always been populated by unwanted interlopers who do not belong on 4chan.
/r9k/ is a containment board for narcissistic, low iq, know-it-alls, just like /sci/, thats why neither board has any original content or native memes.
if there were really people of unique intelligence posting on either board then that board would have been creating original content, since they do not, that is proof of the lack of genius posters.

>> No.14563023

>>14563020
Another incongruent bot post.

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>narcissistic this
>narcissistic that
>muh narcissistcs are everywhere
>anyone who doesn't conform to my hivemind is a heckin' narcissist
I've noticed an uncanny increase in the frequency of usage of the word "narcissist" among the nonhuman hordes. I wonder what YT pop psych video is responsible for this.

>> No.14563037

>>14563032
Orrrrr, just a theory, you're hearing it more because you ARE a narcissist and thus people keep telling you so. Maybe more likely than "the borg" being out to get you, Idunno.

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>Orrrrrrrr
LOL. They just can't help sounding like utter drones even as they're arguing against it.

>> No.14563443

>>14562606
>considering we don't even replace the neuronal tissue involved in higher order thinking
citation?

>> No.14563527

>>14562890
spoilers they were all npcxs

>> No.14563544

>>14553755
>>14553790
Since I have experienced anesthesia, I am not scared of death anymore.

>> No.14563575

The confusion caused when a singularity expands and it starts thinking it's not just the singularity... There is nothing else... I am it, you are it. You are talking to yourself but you don't perceive it that way.

This provides insight into evolution I think. The formation of the ego must be quite early in the development of any creature. There is little else more important than being able to dissect reality into useful information such as "here is me, there is food".

Probably this dissection of elements of reality was a driving force of reality. Not only the observable physical parts like the giraffe's neck, but also the mental inner experience of creatures.

>> No.14563579

>>14563575
Driving force of evolution*

Alongside those physical traits.

>> No.14563738

>>14557296
By its very nature it disproves OPs claim that consciousness ends with sleep. WILD methods transition directly from waking state to dream states. Both you and OP are fucking retarded, and so far the only mentions of lucid dreaming in this thread are because I mentioned the lack of discussion of it in the first place. This board fucking sucks. Fuck you.

>> No.14564888

>>14553458
Conciousness is a debugging, loopbreaking and reorientation tool built on the tension between present data, past recollection, and future modelling using past and present data to chart worldlines

>> No.14564892

Bump

>> No.14564906

>>14563738
Why does lucid dreaming matter? Also you have no clock in dreams, it's like a bad drug trip when you can't tell how much time is passing. So you can lucid dream all you like, and not know for sure that you were aware throughout.

IMO that sounds exhausting anyway. Letting the mind drop off is peace and relaxation.