/sfg/ space flight general

[Anonymous No.14532559]

2 more weeks edition

previous thread: >>14528074

[Anonymous No.14532564]

>>14532559
Is this the TWO WEEKS that makes the meme real?

[Anonymous No.14532566]

>>14532564
Two weeks to stop the spread of life throughout the solar system.

[Anonymous No.14532575]

Threadly reminder to get a job: https://boards.greenhouse.io/spacex/jobs/6106687002?gh_jid=6106687002

[Anonymous No.14532606]

Tom Mueller (say thank you)

[Anonymous No.14532610]

>>14532513
Found ESG Hound too

[Anonymous No.14532620]

>>14532610
guy writes like he has a fucking stick up his ass

[Anonymous No.14532624]

>>14532606
I met him in a public restroom once. Weird guy.

[Anonymous No.14532625]

>>14532620
LMAO

[Anonymous No.14532632]

>>14532606
based bathroom enthusiast

[Anonymous No.14532634]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v-33jcEDk4

[Anonymous No.14532638]

>>14532620
Imagine ESGHound, CSS, and thunderf00t, all three at the same time interviewing Musk and visiting Starbase.

[Anonymous No.14532646]

[Anonymous No.14532649]

>>14532638
First two are same people

[Anonymous No.14532653]

>>14532649
They actually hate each other and esg hound isn’t that level of genuinely retarded. I am curious as to who CSS is irl because he’s fascinatingly schizo

[Anonymous No.14532658]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1531790327677435904

All engines for orbital flight will be installed in few weeks

[Anonymous No.14532659]

>>14532638
Imagine getting all three in one place and then burning it down after locking them inside while standing watch outside to ensure none escape the blaze

[Anonymous No.14532692]

>>14532658

[Anonymous No.14532700]

USFWS and TPWD absolutely seething

[Anonymous No.14532719]

>>14532700
>implying they have anything to do with the image you posted

[Anonymous No.14532731]

>>14532719
Volume 17 page 411 faggot

[Anonymous No.14532734]

>>14532559
>were never getting of this fucking rock

[Anonymous No.14532739]

So what happened with the enviromental report? Is it hop or no?

[Anonymous No.14532743]

>>14532739
Zeno's 2 weeks

[Anonymous No.14532751]

SneedX

[Anonymous No.14532761]

>>14532632
>>14532624
I must be a newfag. Explain the bathroom meme.

[Anonymous No.14532771]

>>14532734
Is that an old pencil sharpener behind him on the left? I've got one that looks damn-near just like it, beige plastic and faux woodgrain with the silver inlet for the pencil

[Anonymous No.14532801]

The situation seems okay. They'll get their 5 R&D launches per year and can always apply for an increased cadence later.
Then they can work with NASA to make them comfortable with the amount of Starlink and HLS launches out of Cape.

[Anonymous No.14532802]

>>14532761
The big part of the meme is that we can’t reveal the truth

[Anonymous No.14532805]

>>14532734
take it easy man

[Anonymous No.14532809]

>>14532801
I bet the FAA will make it easier for them to quietly increase the limit by 2024 to avoid scrutiny.

[Anonymous No.14532814]

>>14532809
By 2024, we'll have another president. So hopefully someone with more sanity

[Anonymous No.14532816]

>>14532809
>quietly
yeah not happening

[Anonymous No.14532818]

>>14532801
Cope. Neither site will allow a high enough cadence.

[Anonymous No.14532821]

>>14532761
the fact that you even know it exists tells me you know exactly what it's about. and you know it's sfg confidential. dont run your mouth, sport, or risk triggering ITAR

[Anonymous No.14532825]

>>14532818
Boca Chica will allow for a high enough cadence this year and the first half of next year.

[Anonymous No.14532830]

>>14532818
That’s what PnD are for, chap

[Anonymous No.14532832]

>>14532692
classic

[Anonymous No.14532833]

>>14532830
>PnD
cringe

[Anonymous No.14532836]

>>14532700
>OH NOES THESE BIG SCARY THINGS WHO KNOWS WHAT KIND OF CHEMICALS THEY HAVE JUST THE SIGHT OF THEM WILL MAKE BEETLES DIE IN THEIR TRACKS OMGOMGOMG
They're literally mostly steel, with occasional electronic bits, powered by one of the simplest fuels that fucks right off into air and water when it burns.

[Anonymous No.14532840]

Will they have to go through an environmental review too when launching from the oil rigs?

[Anonymous No.14532842]

>>14532840
Few more years of EIS review for oil rigs launch because it could disturb the fishes

[Anonymous No.14532843]

>>14532836
I've been through these comments more times than I wish I had and not once did I see mention of any beetles, mostly birds, ocelots, jaguars (sp), and muh tidal/mud flats, even seagrass, but not The Beatles

[Anonymous No.14532846]

>>14532840
Probably, and it may require an EIS because it lacks precedence. But it may not at all

[Anonymous No.14532848]

>>14532840
>>14532842
THEYRE LITERALLY DISRUPTING THE MIGRATION OF THE ENDANGERED DOTTED EEL

[Anonymous No.14532856]

Proposal: SpaceX agrees to preserve local endangered species with the express promise of introducing them to Mars biodomes, in exchange all envirofags shut the fuck up and rescind all challenges/complaints.

[Anonymous No.14532869]

>>14532840
That's really good question, since they intend to launch from international waters it's hard to tell how much of environmental law will be applicable, but you can bet that other countries will bitch about it, especially countries that want to fuck with the US

[Anonymous No.14532873]

>>14532856
>domes
ngmi

[Anonymous No.14532885]

>>14532869
If it’s in the gulf or off the Atlantic coast it’ll probably be Fine, politically

[Anonymous No.14532915]

>>14532873
Domes, inside a big air-mattress, whatever same premise applies.

[Anonymous No.14532959]

>>14532873
Thank you Cucksey Pozzmer!
Always love seeing your ideas in this here Subreddit :D

[Anonymous No.14532965]

>>14532959
I like it more then domes because it allows for the possibility of having much more space for much less construction material then domes would allow for.

[Anonymous No.14533000]

>>14532734
>>14532805
fukken saved lmao

[Anonymous No.14533004]

>>14532965
>>14532873
It's honestly a good idea. You can enclose literally unlimited area using this method, industry allowing.

[Anonymous No.14533008]

>>14532965
>>14533004
Hope he sees this bro

[Anonymous No.14533025]

>>14532836
>Oh no, teh swamp might get filled with swamp gas.

[Anonymous No.14533033]

Coming soon, the moon.

[Anonymous No.14533034]

>>14532761
/sfg/ valiantly saved a man’s family and career.

[Anonymous No.14533037]

>>14533033
what a piece of work...

[Anonymous No.14533038]

>>14532873
Can someone explain this meme for me

[Anonymous No.14533045]

>>14533038
I could but I won't.

[Anonymous No.14533053]

>>14533033
got that Jenner Eye

[Anonymous No.14533054]

what is the absolute furthest that an alien civilization with equal technological and organizational capabilities to modern-day humans could pick up on our "radio bubble"? 5 light years out?

[Anonymous No.14533060]

>>14533038
Imagine a dome but you tether the middle bit down so it isn't so tall. Imagine progressively widening the dome and adding more tethers to hold the roof down the wider you go. Now imagine continuing this process across thousands of square kilometers of land. You now have a tented megastructure that makes any physically possible dome appear tiny by comparison. Also, you can adjust the tether length with no impact on the construction of the tent layer, so you can now have multi kilometer tall sky limit everywhere under your tent structure if you want. Compare this to a dome which cannot exceed a certain size limit without the canopy and air pressure dynamics getting fucky.

[Anonymous No.14533065]

>>14533054
500 AU from the Sun

[Anonymous No.14533071]

>>14533060
You failed to mention the critical point that domes beyond a certain size don't work because of pullout forces on the rim. Thus no matter if canopy or glass you invariably need regularly spaced anchors.

[Anonymous No.14533079]

>>14533054
If these aliens also have arecibo-sized dishes then it would be possible for us to transmit and receive signals from across the galaxy (taking a long time of course).

But our radio transmissions lose the signal strength to be distinguishable from noise in not great distances. Definitely just noise even 5 LY away, with detectors pointed toward earth.

[Anonymous No.14533082]

>>14533071
Bro I described the fact that you need anchors, or do you not know what a tether attaches to?

[Anonymous No.14533086]

>>14533079
>If these aliens also have arecibo-sized dishes then it would be possible for us to transmit and receive signals from across the galaxy
>Except we couldn't because inverse-square law
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.14533093]

>>14533086
https://www.quora.com/How-far-do-radio-signals-travel-into-space-before-they-degrade-to-a-degree-beyond-being-possible-to-be-detected
>Given the right conditions a fairly modest transmitter transmitting a very low bandwidth signal through something like the Aricebo dish could be detected at tens of thousands of lightyears range.

I just regurgitate what smart people with titles tell me. What they're saying here feels correct but I can't prove or explain it any deeper.

[Anonymous No.14533097]

Relativity just shipped its 3D printed rocket to Cape Canaveral. Flight test is imminent, apparently Tom says it could be in the next few weeks

https://twitter.com/relativityspace/status/1531657865185792000?s=21&t=7RJ5EKiFpTLEfKX2B7aXfg


Are 3D printed rockets a good idea? Relativity says they can turn raw materials into a rocket in 60 days

[Anonymous No.14533101]

>>14533097
For in situ manufacturing with a minimal amount of infrastructure it might be a good idea. For making shit on earth I really don't see how proonting helps.

[Anonymous No.14533115]

>>14533086
NTA, he's saying that if somebody sent a signal directed at us, and we were looking straight at that exact area at the time, we could pick up on it from enormous distances
things dissipate much more slowly when they aren't being broadcast in every direction but are instead being focused towards a single point

[Anonymous No.14533128]

>>14533097
Fireflybros, we were supposed to beat them...

[Anonymous No.14533139]

>>14533097
Bets on them making orbit on their first try? The vehicle seems to be well tested.

[Anonymous No.14533145]

Elon said Superheavy’s engines will be tested “one at a time.” Wtf.

[Anonymous No.14533148]

>>14533139
It better work. When they fuck up it always some small oversight like not using an aerospace-grade bolt or converting figures incorrectly or not accounting for some microgravity shite.

[Anonymous No.14533151]

>>14533139
No idea. Engines seem to be the big issue point for these small launch companies, and while Terran 1 has 9+1 engines, it also has engine out capability.

[Anonymous No.14533152]

>>14533097
some parts of rockets make more sense to 3d print than others, like valve bodies with internal channels/vents, fluid manifolds, thrust chambers with cooling channels, stuff with complex internal geometry. I'm not sold on printing tanks and tubes, but I'll be more convinced when they start printing stuff like anti-vortex baffles, stiffeners, vent and press lines, sensor ports, mounting structures etc, right into their tank. Of course this would increase the risk if something fucks up near the end of your giant weeks-long print and is probably harder to rework too...

[Anonymous No.14533158]

>>14533148
Most “modern” rocket failures are due to weird crap like that though. Both of SpaceX’s Falcon 9 failures were due to totally unseen issues with the second stage

[Anonymous No.14533161]

>>14533145
that's gonna be a lot of livestreams, think of all the superchats that will just be rolling in

[Anonymous No.14533162]

>>14533161
They could probably fire two or three per day.

[Anonymous No.14533164]

>>14533145
Yes but that doesn't mean all 33. They might test one, then 3, then 6 etc.

[Anonymous No.14533168]

>>14533164
For context he tweeted
>Just one at a time at first
That doesn't mean ALL engines one at a time

[Anonymous No.14533169]

>>14533164
What will the last test be? A full static fire with Starship on top and full of fuel? Or would they rather risk flying it at that point to save Stage 0 from an explosion

[Anonymous No.14533171]

>>14533162
great, so how are people going to reach the sacred beach lands when you've got a million hours of road closures so far in 2022 alone? wyt pepo gon crazy.

[Anonymous No.14533174]

>>14533168
>>14533161
>>14533145
To be fair, “one at a time” makes some sense, as the outer ring of 20 engines require GSE to ignite. Also I think they want to avoid fatiguing “good” engines, so firing one at a time let’s you find individual engines which are faulty. Plus it probably won’t take more that 4-6 weeks to complete anyways.

[Anonymous No.14533179]

>>14533161
Musicalwolves coming in with the 50.

[Anonymous No.14533185]

>>14533179
I want to strangle this weirdo. And the nsf hosts do too. I can hear the strain in their voice reading the gay jokes it makes.

[Anonymous No.14533184]

Rate my timeline:
>2022 - First Starship orbital flight
>2023 - First Starship return from orbit
>2023 - Starship used for Starlink flights
>2024 - First in-space refueling demo with Starship
>2024 - Starship flies commercial missions
>2025 - Starship HLS Demo
>2026 - Artemis III Starship
>2027 - First cargo starships to mars
>2029 - More cargo starships to mars
>2031 - First Starship Mars Mission

I have no idea when Isaacman wants to do Polaris 3 because that landing and re entry better damn well work.

[Anonymous No.14533188]

>>14533128
I hope they beat firefly, they’re losers and scammers with no way forward anyway

[Anonymous No.14533189]

we deserve better livestreams for launches honestly. There has to be a challenger to NSF.

[Anonymous No.14533191]

>>14533161
It's been quite a long time since I last tuned in to some LabPadre 24/7 livestream, do they still refer to the workers atop the cherry pickers as "Kaarls"? Same with ground workers as Raalphs.

[Anonymous No.14533193]

>>14533185
Based

[Anonymous No.14533194]

>>14533188
Every single small launch company is a scam. SpaceX’s transporter missions literally eat 90% of their market anyways.

[Anonymous No.14533196]

>>14533189
Kys. Any livestream that is just the rocket with bo commentary is better.
If you like watching faggotry, then you'll get faggotry.

[Anonymous No.14533200]

>>14533145
Should be tested 3-6 at a time imo. With 3 at a time, they need to test it 11 times. With 6 at a time, they need to test it 5 times and 3 engines for the 6th times.

[Anonymous No.14533205]

>>14533145
>Just one at a time at first
Nice omission of key word "at first"

[Anonymous No.14533206]

>>14533200
>>14533164
>>14533168

[Anonymous No.14533215]

>>14532610
>>14532620
wait am i reading that right that esg hound is eric roesch?

[Anonymous No.14533220]

>>14533215
>Eric Roesch is a Manager, Environmental Health & Safety at Kinder Morgan based in Houston, Texas. Previously, Eric was an Environmental Specialist
>Kinder Morgan, Inc. is one of the largest energy infrastructure companies in North America. The company specializes in owning and controlling oil and gas pipelines and terminals.

[Anonymous No.14533222]

[Anonymous No.14533232]

>>14533222
I hate Vatniks with a passion

[Anonymous No.14533253]

>>14533220
Explains his autism regarding ESG shit and gas/pipelines/oil shit

[Anonymous No.14533256]

>>14533215
>>14533220
Then there's also Eric Roesch the leather bear.
https://twitter.com/Eric_Roesch/status/1410991742715891724
https://twitter.com/Eric_Roesch/status/1427772655042764813

[Anonymous No.14533260]

Why do a lot of spaceflight “fans” shit on SpaceX?

[Anonymous No.14533262]

>>14533256
lmfao XDD

[Anonymous No.14533273]

>>14533260
Because the Falcon 9 is like a methane version of Mercury-Redstone and Starship is inferior in every aspect to the Mega Moon Rocket (SLS)

[Anonymous No.14533282]

>>14533260
They grew up under the Shuttle and they're terrified that NASA and oldspace aren't the magic, infallible giants that they remember them as.

[Anonymous No.14533287]

>>14533273
>Falcon 9 is like a methane version of Mercury-Redstone
True. There were already rockets in the 50s. Musk didn't invent anything, nothing new.

[Anonymous No.14533295]

>>14533260
Skepticism + Nostalgia + Elon involvement

[Anonymous No.14533296]

>>14533260
They're anti-Musk

[Anonymous No.14533310]

>>14533262
Eric Roesch is a snake https://twitter.com/Eric_Roesch/status/1410231107103215616

[Anonymous No.14533314]

>>14533310
Tunnel Snakes ruuule!11!!1 xDD

[FO3 reffrence}

[Anonymous No.14533321]

>>14533253
>>14533220
also another part of the oil industry that is anti-musk

[Anonymous No.14533322]

>>14533220
Kek of course this explains his ESG apologia towards Exxon and big oil and his huge focus on deboonking Tesla and solar power, and his posts that Environment is less important than Social and Governance in ESG

[Anonymous No.14533323]

>>14533260
Because anything felon does is a scam

[Anonymous No.14533327]

the history of the new world is demarcated by 1492
will the history of the solar system face a similar demarcation? was it 1969? 1957? some point in the 2020s?

[Anonymous No.14533328]

>>14533321
>>14533322
Wow what a godamn snake.

[Anonymous No.14533329]

The administrative state is illegitimate.

[Anonymous No.14533333]

>>14533327
1969. All the bits of Vostok 1 have reentered by now.

[Anonymous No.14533334]

Literally every single time someone is against nuclear, solar or electric vehicles on the basis of the environment you can trace them to extant major Oil and Gas companies or sometimes legacy automakers

[Anonymous No.14533339]

>>14533334
Here's why that's a good thing

[Anonymous No.14533340]

>>14533327
Honestly mate 100,000 years from now when humanity spans the galaxy all of our present will be lost to time. Imagine them trying to disprove the “fringe theory” that humans came from a planet called Earth and not the galactic capital or some shit

[Anonymous No.14533343]

ESGHound has been finally debunked and his identity exposed. Will CSS be next? Are they really the same person? Find out next time on /sfg/

[Anonymous No.14533355]

>>14533343
Is he actually Eric Roesch or is it the wrong guy?

[Anonymous No.14533356]

>>14533343
>>14533355
Getting caught was part of his plan.

[Anonymous No.14533359]

>>14533355
I doubt there are two people with that name in Texas with that level of knowledge of the process of environmental reviews and that level of autism. He’s probably not the leather zaddy from jersey though.

[Anonymous No.14533361]

>>14533323
Why would Elon need to know about modern coding? He could literally just buy a language or some shit.

[Anonymous No.14533364]

>14533361

[Anonymous No.14533365]

>>14533343
CSS is this guy apparently >>14532513

They're deff not the same person.

Diff writing styles and shit, etc..

[Anonymous No.14533367]

>>14533359
>>14533355
I mean... >>14532610

[Anonymous No.14533383]

I just wish these enviro fags would be open and upfront about using the environmental concerns as a front for their interests in defending the gas/oil industry, or getting at Musk. They pretend and get all emotional while in reality they are TSLAQ in the hands of big oil, whether anti Musk/Tesla or anti-nuclear.

Remember some coalition against nuclear energy and it was funded by solar and oil/gas companies of fucking course. They care more about their interests than what's good for humanity as a whole in the long run, deceitful, disingenuous cunts, fuck 'em all.

[Anonymous No.14533384]

>>14533367
You're right actually. I thought this guy wasn't so retarded as to use his real name, but he did. What an idiot.

[Anonymous No.14533388]

>>14533384
Maybe he's playing some 6D chess by revealing his name, idk

[Anonymous No.14533391]

>>14533383
This is why in sane societies these weasels don't get a vote on what private businesses do.

[Anonymous No.14533395]

>>14533367
>>14533384
>>14533388
CSS also put a name by the way but that one is probably fake.

[Anonymous No.14533396]

>>14533391
Regulatory hamstringing is gonna put us behind China, already has on several fronts. It's fucking ridiculous, just look at Sierra Club's environmental concern trolling tactics for instance https://www.activistfacts.com/organizations/194-sierra-club/

[Anonymous No.14533398]

>>14533365
that's a fake name
either that or css is a kenyan

[Anonymous No.14533400]

Fabian Lungu

[Anonymous No.14533408]

>>14533388
>>14533384
I’m guessing he didn’t realize people would look through thousands of comments. He underestimates the autism of the internet

[Anonymous No.14533409]

>>14533398
Probably, theres one other exact copy of that same letter below that one, but without the autism text background, and its another weird ass name.

Also he fucked up on properly attaching any pics on both documents so haha screw you CSS

[Anonymous No.14533414]

>>14533408
lmao I was just bored and looking for good shit and stumbled on both of those, I guess its a different kind of autism

[Anonymous No.14533416]

>>14533398
>>14533400
He grew up deep in the muskian emerald mines. That must be it.

[Anonymous No.14533418]

>>14533396
Environiggery was literally a KGB plot to weaken America's nuclear industry.

[Anonymous No.14533420]

>>14533414
few of my favorites

[Anonymous No.14533422]

>>14533414
>Go fire yourself
lmao, can't stop laughing

[Anonymous No.14533423]

>>14533420

[Anonymous No.14533424]

notice anything odd here anons?

[Anonymous No.14533426]

>>14533423

[Anonymous No.14533428]

>>14533424
>Jewish
of course

[Anonymous No.14533430]

>>14533424
Yes that person is born swiss.

[Anonymous No.14533431]

>>14533426

[Anonymous No.14533432]

>>14533424
I just found this as well, kek. Yeah, it's him: Missouri is a town in Houston.

[Anonymous No.14533434]

>>14533329
that's right clearpilled cirno plushie, the goal is
Retire
All
Government
Employees

[Anonymous No.14533435]

>>14533430
>zurich.com
wait nvm

[Anonymous No.14533438]

>>14533420

[Anonymous No.14533439]

>>14533431

[Anonymous No.14533440]

>>14533435
SIT DOWN, JOHN, SIT DOWN

[Anonymous No.14533441]

>>14533424
>name
>town
>where he works
its fucking over

[Anonymous No.14533446]

Should just start replying to everything by he posts everywhere with something like
>Hello Eric Roesch, is there a reason you chose not to mention your involvement with frequentl-non compliant Kinder Morgan Energy when publishing articles about Environmentalism, social and governmental responsibility, and Elon Musk? Do you view this as a conflict of interest your readers should be aware of?

[Anonymous No.14533447]

>>14533439
can't forget this gem too lmao >>14530995

[Anonymous No.14533448]

>>14533438
kek, add this one >>14533426

[Anonymous No.14533449]

>>14533446
>frequentl-non compliant Kinder Morgan Energy
i was reading some of the allegations against them before
just fucking endless fines that are somehow 25k max? that get reduced to nothing

[Anonymous No.14533450]

>>14533449
Hava nagila hava nagila!

[Anonymous No.14533452]

>>14533422
Same its somehow even funnier than Go fuck yourself lmao

[Anonymous No.14533456]

Hey soo I haven't browsed here in a while.
What is all this shit? QRD?

[Anonymous No.14533457]

Don't forget, we have a colony in Saturn's moon

[Anonymous No.14533459]

>>14533456
FAA published the comments and the results are due on the 13th.

[Anonymous No.14533460]

>>14533456
FAA made all the comments on SpaceX’s Starbase public. Some dudes accidentally doxxed themselves. Others are funny

[Anonymous No.14533461]

>>14533439
Dammit I should have sent in the entire text of The Case for Mars

[Anonymous No.14533462]

>>14533456
Released FAA comments. CSS was smart enough to not self-dox, but ESGhound did, and it turns out that he's a kike on the payroll of oil giants! What a surprise!

[Anonymous No.14533463]

>>14533456
Spacex finally got approved via PONSI scheme so sierra club is sueing and the FAA is blueballing us . it's fuckin redicks

[Anonymous No.14533465]

god i wish css had used his real name

[Anonymous No.14533467]

>>14533461
and signed it as Dr. Robert "Zooby Dooby Doo" Zubrin, Ph.D.

[Anonymous No.14533468]

>>14533462
kek. classic
>>14533459
>>14533460
>>14533463
thanks for the info lads.

[Anonymous No.14533470]

>>14533446
wait a bit so he can't nuke his profiles yet

[Anonymous No.14533472]

This isn’t a call for a raid but there will be future calls for comment for future FAA projects and I think there’s fun to be had

[Anonymous No.14533474]

>>14533470
I archived the web page, it's fucking ogre.

[Anonymous No.14533476]

>>14533470
True. It might actually tank his credentials if it got out, at least with enviros.

[Anonymous No.14533477]

>>14533462
>tesla short seller
Who would have guessed?

[Anonymous No.14533479]

>>14533477
He went on a huge rant about how shorting is more ethical than direct investments lol

[Anonymous No.14533482]

>>14533097
Did we even get a picture of the full completed booster?

[Anonymous No.14533484]

>>14533461
kek you should've, there's someone who sent them the entire fucking Kennedy Space Center Envirnomental documents from 2015 and it takes up an entire volume, 480 pages https://cms.faa.gov/sites/faa.gov/files/2022-05/16_Volume_18047.pdf and half of Volume 17

[Anonymous No.14533487]

>>14533484
Its a wonder anything in this country gets fucking done with this kind of inane environmental bureaucracy.

[Anonymous No.14533488]

>>14533479
I can almost hear his hands rubbing.

[Anonymous No.14533489]

>>14533423

[Anonymous No.14533490]

>>14533484
Hahahahhaha I’m gonna send them the Martian constitution next time

[Anonymous No.14533495]

>>14533487
That is an intentional design feature of these review systems and why they are unconstitutional. Some rich faggot who doesn't like you can tie the review process up for years until you give up.

[Anonymous No.14533497]

>>14533184
If Starship is flying Starlink in early 2024, there will absolutely be at least one cargo Starship to Mars in that Q4 2024 launch window

[Anonymous No.14533499]

Keep playing with your rockets little boys.

We know space is fake.

[Anonymous No.14533501]

>>14533495
Sierra Club pull this kinda shit >>14533396

[Anonymous No.14533502]

>>14533060
What's holding the canopy up?

[Anonymous No.14533505]

>>14533502
the air inside

[Anonymous No.14533506]

>>14533499
You joke but /Sci/ is full of retards who shill flat earth and stuff

[Anonymous No.14533507]

>>14533502
Air pressure. It's supposed to be on Mars so the challenge is keeping the roof from blowing off.

[Anonymous No.14533510]

[Anonymous No.14533517]

>>14533424
>>14533441
Ah, he's in Houston
Splendid

[Anonymous No.14533519]

what did he mean by this

[Anonymous No.14533521]

>>14533474
I’m gonna post it all next time I check his Twitter and he’s arguing with some fairly neutral space twitter person like apogee or angry astronaut or whatever. I really hate this unethical crap, and I hate hypocrisy from petrochem fags. If other people see it before he does damage control it might actually stick around

[Anonymous No.14533522]

Hey who’s the guy who’s pic keeps being posted? Is that CSS?

[Anonymous No.14533524]

Here ya go lads, hopefully these links will get you some details into his space-faggotry before he can scramble to delete them. It's ESG fag's FB and Lkin accounts. Envirofagots delenda est.

[Anonymous No.14533525]

>>14533522
ESGhound doxxed himself

[Anonymous No.14533527]

>>14533525
He’s an anti-SpaceX schizo right? Also lol we can’t let him get away with this. Someone mail him starship plushies

[Anonymous No.14533531]

hmmm

[Anonymous No.14533534]

>>14533184
There will definitely starlink launches before they have a successful reuse, probably several.
And each unsuccessful landing or return from orbit will be accompanied by a Thundercuck video.

[Anonymous No.14533535]

>>14533527
He's anti-Musk/anti-Tesla/anti-Spacex schizo. The root cause is likely Tesla due to his financial ties with gas companies.

[Anonymous No.14533537]

Chad move

[Anonymous No.14533539]

Why do all of the anti-SpaceX comments have the exact same copy pasta about birds or some shit?

[Anonymous No.14533541]

>Hmm I wonder who wrote this...

[Anonymous No.14533542]

>>14533539
Sierra Club sent out at least 3 different templates they just had to fill in their name and they mass spammed them at the FAA, unironically the amount of these Sierra Club templates and FWS/TWPD/THC etc documents make up the vast majority of the comments, all the positives are just 10 volumes or so

[Anonymous No.14533543]

>>14533539
That's Sierraclub provided pasta

[Anonymous No.14533550]

>>14533541
lmao they think getting to space and getting into orbit are the same thing

[Anonymous No.14533552]

>>14533543
>>14533542
Lol just checked their website. Wtf is with their hateboner on SpaceX? They’re cool with the US government fucking around 24/7 but oh no not SpaceX ahhhhh.

[Anonymous No.14533554]

>>14533552
They’re mercenary activists, they’re being paid to care

[Anonymous No.14533556]

>>14533552
They're Communists and SpaceX threatens China.

[Anonymous No.14533558]

>>14533552
They're major luddites see >>14533396

[Anonymous No.14533560]

>>14533552
They are just petrochem/wallstreet gigakikes hiding behind an environmentalist pretense.

[Anonymous No.14533562]

What the fuck is this shit lmfao

[Anonymous No.14533566]

>>14533562
Where are you finding the fun comments? I’m just seeing retarded Sierra club clones

[Anonymous No.14533568]

>>14533562
Natasha dirty slut. Show pusi

[Anonymous No.14533579]

>>14533562
Russian hackers once again interfering in American affairs

[Anonymous No.14533581]

Reposting FAA link with all the comments
https://cms.faa.gov/spacexstarship/starshipsuperheavy/comments-draft-programmatic-environmental-assessment-pea-spacex

[Anonymous No.14533583]

>>14533566
First 1-5 or so volumes mostly

[Anonymous No.14533584]

All these shitposts to trawl through. EIS actually in 2 weeks. Orbital Starship imminent. Yup, I'm thinking /sfg/ is back.

[Anonymous No.14533585]

>>14533552
They are constipated

[Anonymous No.14533589]

[Anonymous No.14533591]

>>14533287
Actually China has been doing manned space flight for over 2000 years at this point.

[Anonymous No.14533592]

>>14533539
>>14533552
fake NGO astroturf and activism is how the the regime manufactures consent for the administrative state

[Anonymous No.14533594]

>>14533507
A concept I saw for tenting over the Valles Marineris showed the liner to be saging across the canyon. Why wouldn't the air pressure hold it up?

[Anonymous No.14533601]

His soul is not weighed down by gravity

[Anonymous No.14533609]

>>14533583

[Anonymous No.14533613]

>>14533552
Benoz is paying them to

[Anonymous No.14533615]

Interesting, the concern trolls going on about muh ocelots muh sea turtles and then this guy lays down the truth

[Anonymous No.14533618]

Found the /sfg/ poster

[Anonymous No.14533622]

>>14533618
the last sentence is actually a bad thing
the faa doesn't care about spacex packing up and leaving
having an alternative means they don't NEED starbase, thus they shouldn't get it

[Anonymous No.14533623]

>>14533618
>Carbon neutral within 5 years
DELUSIONAL

[Anonymous No.14533624]

Found the schizoposter

[Anonymous No.14533625]

>>14533624
The sanest man in /stg/

[Anonymous No.14533626]

>>14533624
Fucking hell

[Anonymous No.14533630]

If you had to read through all of these would you care much about your job?

[Anonymous No.14533635]

>>14533630
I'd shoot myself

[Anonymous No.14533638]

[Anonymous No.14533639]

Again with someone thinking they are writing to Musk/Spacesex directly lmao

[Anonymous No.14533641]

>>14533639
>I am neither an expert nor an expert

fucking lost it

[Anonymous No.14533644]

>>14533635
>Hard coded emoji set
Y-you don't think this means...they actually printed it out and then scanned it back in?

[Anonymous No.14533645]

>>14533644
>Hard coded emoji set
wdym?

[Anonymous No.14533649]

>>14533645
Emoji look different depending on your device, but it looks the same on my phone

[Anonymous No.14533650]

It’s fun to make fun of the retarded and ESL comments but it goes to show just how inspiring the drive of SpaceX is. Starship is the people’s rocket.

[Anonymous No.14533652]

Don't be a hater fool

[Anonymous No.14533654]

>>14533650
It is soulful compared to soulless copy-pasted sierra club templates I just gloss over

[Anonymous No.14533660]

Soul....

[Anonymous No.14533662]

>>14533660
oh shit that reminds me I saw a St. Jude letter written by a patient there in support of SpaceX

[Anonymous No.14533663]

Is this where we patition to have them renamed to spasex?

[Anonymous No.14533664]

>>14533660
bros...my heart...

[Anonymous No.14533666]

>>14533660
They sure don't make Stacy's like they used to

[Anonymous No.14533667]

>>14533666
thats the person they're writing to, the faa person

[Anonymous No.14533669]

Man did his research

[Anonymous No.14533675]

>>14533660
>Viking missions to Mars
I'm in love

[Anonymous No.14533682]

>>14533660
please don't stalk this nice lady

[Anonymous No.14533692]

>>14533682
Do you even PEA bro?

[Anonymous No.14533703]

TROPICS
TROPICS
TROPICS

[Anonymous No.14533705]

>>14533703
marry, kill, fuck

[Anonymous No.14533711]

>>14533703
If cubesats are flatties then I request thicc venus bodied Envisat hags

[Anonymous No.14533716]

>>14533711
they're only flat because they prepubescent

[Anonymous No.14533717]

>>14533703
go back

[Anonymous No.14533721]

>>14533703
stay here

[Anonymous No.14533731]

Swearing into the Space Force tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.14533739]

>>14533716
WTF is wrong with you?

[Anonymous No.14533742]

>>14533717
Spin around in a circle.

[Anonymous No.14533749]

>>14533731
Good luck, I mean lick.

[Anonymous No.14533759]

>>14533742
cute :)

[Anonymous No.14533765]

>>14533759
No, she's in love with Africa, will have little dark skinned babies before she's out of Jr High. Future coal burner there, will pollute our atmosphere.

[Anonymous No.14533767]

>Jannies won't ban a literal pedophile that keeps derailing the thread
It's all so tiresome.

[Anonymous No.14533776]

>>14533731
Based you better secretly post about glow shit here

[Anonymous No.14533777]

>>14533767
>a

I have news for you. This site, it's like pedo central. Has been sense day 1. Moot even ensured he passed the baton onto another pedo.

[Anonymous No.14533782]

>Jannies won't ban a literal pedophile that keeps derailing the thread
Based.

[Anonymous No.14533793]

>>14533782
>Normies come to our home and try to impose normie culture on us. Telling us that we are not welcome in the land of our inheritance.

We shall not flag or fail, never give up, never surrender.

[Anonymous No.14533794]

>>14532840
it absolutely will because they're trying to do something new

[Anonymous No.14533797]

>>14533038
in the future we're all going to live inside of giant air mattresses

[Anonymous No.14533801]

>>14533794
>it absolutely will because they're trying to do something new

Register the oil rig as a panama ship? Launch from international waters? Mayhap SpaceX needs a new overseas starship factory. These regulatory bullshits are literally putting all the known life in the universe at undue risk.

[Anonymous No.14533802]

>>14533767
Cry about it lol

[Anonymous No.14533808]

>>14533802
Sometimes I wish we had thread id's just so the retards wouldn't presume we are samefagging.

[Anonymous No.14533812]

>>14533808
why would it even cross your mind to give a shit what schizos think

[Anonymous No.14533819]

>>14533777
Moot created /a/ and /b/ to confine the pedophiles to just two boards. He then handed over control of /b/ to the feds and allowed it to operate as a honeypot. Your guy has probably sent at least a dozen people to prison.
>>14533808
No, retard, it's obvious there could be at least two pedophiles here that will use an opportunity like this to jerk each other off and pretend that they're not detested by most people. It's just there's no discernable characteristics besides your love of children so there's no reason to try tell you apart.

[Anonymous No.14533820]

>>14533812
It's an innate trait for most humans to care what others think. Even for those whom you hold animosity knowing their mindspace can help you either predict and avoid conflict or manipulate them towards a more desirable outcome. I understand that some people with varying band gaps in the spectrum could find this difficult to comprehend.

[Anonymous No.14533822]

>>14533819
too many words, not reading lol

[Anonymous No.14533825]

>>14533819
Moot created /l/ for shota and loli to have their own board. He was himself a lolicoin and WT snacks would even request the real stuff. 4chan is riddled with loli content in the official banners and error messages. Some of it is even cropped images from hard core loli manga.

[Anonymous No.14533827]

>>14533618
I never actually got around to submitting the It's Not That Easy pasta

[Anonymous No.14533829]

>>14533820
>It's an innate trait for most humans to care what others think

[Anonymous No.14533832]

>>14533808
I typically go through between two and three IP addresses throughout a day

[Anonymous No.14533833]

>>14533829
>beep beep boop bop
>I am sociopath and don't care what others think, this makes me not an npc

[Anonymous No.14533840]

>>14533833
>-i-i-if you don't care what me and other normies think, you're le heckin' sociopath!!

[Anonymous No.14533859]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1531880109225005056

[Anonymous No.14533860]

>>14533859
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1531884243097378816

[Anonymous No.14533869]

>>14533859
Doubt

[Anonymous No.14533893]

>>14533802
nice instruments panel, touchscreens are so soulless. cute girl too

[Anonymous No.14533896]

>>14533825
#lolicoin to the moon!

[Anonymous No.14533903]

>>14533893
You just have autism. Crew Dragon is infinitely better than any craft with boomer switches.
>>14533820
Ultimately they are triggered by the fact that even on a site literally created by a pedophile they're still hated by the vast majority of the userbase and they fail to realize that their shitposts and samefagging only turns more people against them. Pedophiles acting like children? Call it pottery.
>>14533840
>I don't care what you and the other normies think! Watch me make countless posts claiming this, you NPC!

[Anonymous No.14533918]

>>14533903
>Crew Dragon is infinitely better than any craft with boomer switches.
Nope, shitty Tesla-tier interior with cheap plastic panels that come off and touchscreens are objectively trash

[Anonymous No.14533925]

>>14533918
Tesla has the highest ownership satisfaction of any vehicle brand, in part because they don't take the claims of retarded luddite consumers seriously and instead just advance technology.

This is what you're defending. lol, lmao

[Anonymous No.14533928]

>>14533925
>If you don't like cheap plastic, input devices with no feedback and locked down devices that you can never really own you're a luddite
lmao
>This is what you're defending
It isn't.

[Anonymous No.14533934]

>>14533928
you should go back

[Anonymous No.14533935]

Reminder, ironic shit posting is shit posting

[Anonymous No.14533947]

>>14533934
you will never go to space, muskuck

[Anonymous No.14533948]

>>14533928
>noooooo not that cheap plastic control panel that has physical switches, that's not what i meant
It's almost like the type of switch is separate from build quality, who knew?

[Anonymous No.14533961]

>>14533947
There we go, faggot reveals himself.

[Anonymous No.14533964]

>>14533961
so why did you reveal yourself?

[Anonymous No.14533971]

>>14533964
>no u
lol

[Anonymous No.14533974]

>>14533971
>yes u
lol

[Anonymous No.14533977]

>wake up
>china is already on launch #2 of their leo megaconstellation
https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1531925423344345088

interesting...

[Anonymous No.14533979]

>>14533974
This musk general, faggot
You have to go back

[Anonymous No.14533982]

>more or less on-topic thread
>animeposting begins
>some fag gets mad
>flame war
>thread status: derailed
never change /sfg/

[Anonymous No.14533990]

>>14533961
not the same anon

[Anonymous No.14533995]

>more or less on-topic thread including some spaceflight-related anime material
>schizo gets irrationably mad
>thread status: derailed

[Anonymous No.14534004]

>>14533995
>anime
>spaceflight related
go back

[Anonymous No.14534005]

>>14533794
Sea Launch already did that

[Anonymous No.14534007]

>>14534004
says the poltard who can't recognize the rocket equation nor knew about word filters. everybody hates you here

[Anonymous No.14534008]

>>14534004
4chan culture
If you don't like it, maybe you should go back to nsf.

[Anonymous No.14534017]

I am deeply concerned about the impacts on birds and other wildlife from SpaceX operations in Boca Chica, where the company's Starship/Super Heavy Project and launch site are being built and expanded.

SpaceX operations have significantly changed since 2014, when the company was authorized to test and launch much smaller rockets than those being proposed today. The company is also now developing a natural gas facility to extract
and deliver fuel to the site. These changes to SpaceX's activities in Boca Chica are substantial enough that - according to the National Environmental Policy Act - the Federal Aviation Administration {FAA) should require a full Environmental Impact Statement {EIS), rather than the faster, less comprehensive Programmatic Environmental Assessment {PEA) that has now been produced.

Construction at the facility, launch activities, fires, and rocket debris are already impacting the wildlife and people of the Boca Chica region. This region contains critically important and sensitive bird habitat used by hundreds of thousands of individual birds of many different species throughout the year - from the federally Threatened Piping Plover and Red Knot to the Endangered Northern Aplomado Falcon. According to an analysis by Coastal Bend Bays & Estuaries Program in Corpus Christi, the Piping Plover population in the Boca Chica region has decreased by 54% over the past 3 years {2018-2021) since SpaceX started testing and launching rockets.

These lands also support several species of sea turtle and mammals listed under the Endangered Species Act. The current assessment fails to adequately analyze the impact of operations on wildlife, the environment, and surrounding communities. The assessment presents only two alternatives to be considered: a Preferred Alternative and a No Action Alternative. At this time, the No Action Alternative is recommended by conservation organizations given the lack of an in-depth EIS.

[Anonymous No.14534021]

How do you know which Eric Roesch is behind ESG Hound?

[Anonymous No.14534025]

>>14534021
he posted his town/city in his letter
only one eric is in that city from what i could see
plus that eric has environmental backgrounds which esg claims

[Anonymous No.14534046]

It's today, guys.
https://youtu.be/KbSIcGG4Dhs

[Anonymous No.14534059]

Nouvelle-Zélande
Sentinel-3A

[Anonymous No.14534067]

>>14534046
SpaceX is finished

[Anonymous No.14534078]

We will eat lobster on Mars

[Anonymous No.14534080]

>>14534017
Is this pasta?

> 4chinnel bans image uploads from my phone
Goddamn I hate 3rd worlders so much. The planet would just be a better place without them relentlessly posting cp on Mongolian cartoon boards
https://i.imgur.com/fdNnkoJ.jpg

[Anonymous No.14534151]

>>14532965
>>14533004
>>14532873
Mars is a big planet, we'll be able to do every construction idea imaginable at once in the myriad cities that'll dot its surface

[Anonymous No.14534159]

>>14532638
As the last part of the tour, elon offers them a job. The job is to watch his foursome with each man's oneitis at the top of the launch tower

[Anonymous No.14534162]

>>14532620
When was the last time he wrote a sentence about environmental impact or just the bottom line of anything? It's all seethe about rule breaking and how much he really doesn't like this company

[Anonymous No.14534163]

>>14534162
It was never about ESG, it was always about Musk and Tesla. SpaceX is just a way to stop Musk's halo effect.

[Anonymous No.14534169]

>>14534004
>filtered

[Anonymous No.14534170]

>>14533918
>it has to be expensive and the panels fall off because I said they do. they just do ok?

[Anonymous No.14534173]

>>14534046
Interested parties

[Anonymous No.14534175]

[Anonymous No.14534178]

hop when

[Anonymous No.14534184]

>Chinese space centre finds jamming device weeks before launch of latest space station mission in first reported incident of its kind
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3179756/chinese-space-centre-finds-jamming-device-weeks-launch-latest

[Anonymous No.14534199]

>>14534046
>>14534173
how likely is spacex to win?

[Anonymous No.14534202]

>>14534184
This website is cancer.

[Anonymous No.14534211]

>>14534199
Hard to predict. You'd think they should have won CLD with Starship, but for some reason, they dropped the ball.

[Anonymous No.14534217]

>constantly spam off-topic bait
>people get annoyed
>call them schizos
>repeat multiple times a day for years
This is your life.

[Anonymous No.14534219]

How was your memorial day weekend guys?

[Anonymous No.14534222]

>>14534217
>crying
>pooping pants
>diahrrea
>throwing up
naughty baby needs a spanking!

[Anonymous No.14534235]

>>14533531
>We don't want a repeat of the 1960's.
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.14534240]

>In 1985 Sir Edmund Hillary (the first man to stand on the summit of Mount Everest) and Neil Armstrong (the first man to stand on the moon) landed at the North Pole in a small twin-engined ski plane. Hillary thus became the first man to stand at both poles and on the summit of Everest.

[Anonymous No.14534248]

>>14534219
Would be better without Biden stopping SpaceX/Tesla

[Anonymous No.14534251]

>>14534240
>One morning in the mid–1980s, professional expedition leader Mike Dunn decided he wanted to take the day’s greatest explorers to the North Pole. According to Sir Edmund Hillary’s son Peter, himself an accomplished mountaineer who came on the trip, Dunn was a colorful character, the kind of man who didn’t mind ringing up people like first man on the moon Neil Armstrong and saying, “How about this?”
>Hillary, legendary for being the first to scale Mount Everest with teammate Tenzing Norgay, was on board, and Armstrong was, too, saying he was curious to see what the North Pole looked like from ground level, as he’d only seen it from the moon.
>The party also included Steve Fossett — the first man to fly a balloon around the world — and Patrick Morrow — the first person to climb the highest peaks of all seven continents.
>On April 6, 1985, they touched down at the North Pole. Now safely at the top of the world, they popped a bottle of champagne, which froze solid before even two glasses were poured. With this trip, Hillary the elder became the first person to stand at both poles (he went to the South Pole in 1958), as well as the summit of Everest.
>On their return to Ellesmere Island, the weather took a turn for the worse, and the party had to hole up in a hut for what became a three–day whiteout. Temperatures got to 40 below — perfect for sitting around a table with a cup of tea, swapping amazing stories.

[Anonymous No.14534254]

>>14534240
Dare I say the most based mashup of real explorers left on this godforsaken planet?

[Anonymous No.14534285]

>>14533552
Are they located within a single, flammable building? Followup question, if aggressively burned to the ground would the club retain any ability to pressure FAA/government in any capacity moving forward? Asking for a friend.

[Anonymous No.14534292]

>>14533819
/a/ and /b/ were the first two boards on the site

[Anonymous No.14534295]

The anime schizo hates space. That's why he spams pedotoons whenenever the discussion gets interesting.

[Anonymous No.14534299]

The anti-anime schizo has diahrrea again. That's why you can smell his poopy ass from space

[Anonymous No.14534304]

>>14533222
based

[Anonymous No.14534305]

>>14534292
Then go back there

[Anonymous No.14534320]

>>14533982
Remove step 2, problem fixed

[Slava Ukraini No.14534322]

>>14534304
Unbased, go back, don't come back >>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.14534332]

>>14534320
correct, but probably difficult to implement

it's much easier to report and filter all off topic posts (hiding their replies, too)
the thread moves much slower since you're hiding half the replies, but it's better than reading trash written by retards

[Anonymous No.14534334]

I know we’re probably only a few weeks (months?) away from the launch of the largest rocket ever built, but it still feels like progress is too slow.

[Anonymous No.14534336]

Von braun poster/collagefag is still here actively trying to sabotage ans manipulate the thread
I believe it is being paid to do this now
After seeing that esg is in bed with big oil, it wouldn't surprise me

[Anonymous No.14534338]

Long March 2C launch tomorrow, payload unknown.

Soyuz launches Progress MS-20 on Friday, ferrying apparent cargo to ISS.

Six people will waste their money on a suborbital hop on Saturday, as New Shepard NS-21 briefly flies and parachutes back down.

[Anonymous No.14534339]

>>14534322
Strange for you to assume I came from pol, nationalism is based in all forms.

[Anonymous No.14534345]

launch the fucking rocket elon

[Anonymous No.14534351]

>>14533731
Kek what a loser

[Anonymous No.14534353]

>>14534338
>people STILL buy Newt Shepard

[Anonymous No.14534359]

I will always miss the 2017-2018 era carbon fiber BFR.

[Anonymous No.14534363]

>>14534359
one day in the future when the feasibility of triple-digit reuse is demonstrated i still think it's going to happen, just like how carbon composites aren't a meme on jetliners because they're going to be flying for decades

[Anonymous No.14534368]

>>14534363
It is curious to think about what launch vehicles will look like in 50 years. Maybe the SSTO meme won’t be so shit by then.

[Anonymous No.14534369]

>>14533703
CUTE CUTE CUTE

[Anonymous No.14534370]

>>14533731
Don't swear its rude

[Anonymous No.14534371]

>>14534368
What point is there to SSTO? Just slap it on top of a big booster and massively increase your Delta-v.

[Anonymous No.14534375]

>>14534322
Kek go be a faggot some where else

[Anonymous No.14534376]

>>14534371
bigger + dumber > a bunch of complex little pieces and micro-optimizations

[Anonymous No.14534378]

Today, ILC Dover delivers new Apollo kino

[Anonymous No.14534381]

>>14534322
Ukraine is the nazi nation with the thug traitor dictator. you are in a process of being crushed

[Anonymous No.14534383]

>>14534046
We need more yuri space anime

[Anonymous No.14534386]

>>14534383
There is some out there if you know where to look

[Anonymous No.14534390]

>>14534381
go back to pockocmoc dmitry

[Anonymous No.14534392]

>>14534383
>>14534386
kys

[Anonymous No.14534393]

>>14534383
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcRqxSA77aU

[Anonymous No.14534402]

>>14534392
still pooping, i see ;)

[Anonymous No.14534406]

>>14534173
>>14534378
Based. I hope we get to see all the proposals today already.

[Anonymous No.14534408]

https://youtu.be/YfvG0v1LX6k
Holy shit, did you guys fucking see this? New hazegrayart. Sonny bono designed a rocket? who knew

[Anonymous No.14534412]

>>14534408
reusable single stage to orbit will never work, by the orders of magnitude

[Anonymous No.14534414]

>>14534383
We (You) need more grass touching

[Anonymous No.14534418]

>>14534412
Ok thanks again for talking out your ass, as you constantly do here

[Anonymous No.14534422]

>>14534412
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzXcTFfV3Ls&ab_channel=jaglavaksoldier

[Anonymous No.14534425]

>>14534418
Cope
SSTO space planes will never be real.

[Anonymous No.14534430]

>>14534422
>DCX
>SSTO

[Anonymous No.14534438]

>>14534422
>they got a vertical landing demonstrator with rl-10s to work, therefore the success of the actual SSTO which would have required magic tanks and new engines was assured

[Anonymous No.14534441]

>>14534438
Why couldn’t they just stack one on top of another one? Fixes the magic tanks issue.

[Anonymous No.14534447]

>>14534441
because dan goldin nasa wanted an ssto, if they'd allowed for fully reusable two-stage vehicles then it likely would have succeeded and the space program would've been in much better shape after columbia

[Anonymous No.14534451]

THE DCX HAD A MASS FRACTION OF 0.5
0.5 HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.14534454]

>>14534451
hydrologgs :DDDDD

[Anonymous No.14534455]

>>14534451
SSTO btw

[Anonymous No.14534463]

>>14534381
lol, lmao

[Anonymous No.14534466]

>>14534334
Welding the big giant metal tube is the easy part. The millions of details around it, inside it, and under it, those are the hard parts. And progress there is harder to see.

[Anonymous No.14534472]

>>14534425
They already are real

[Anonymous No.14534476]

>>14534451
So basically you're saying Starship is a ripoff of DC-X? same mass fraction

[Anonymous No.14534478]

>>14534425
Not with this attitude.

[Anonymous No.14534480]

>>14534451
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH STTT SINGLE STAGE TO TRASH

[Anonymous No.14534481]

>>14534472
Baby shut, don't want Felon to hear that

[Anonymous No.14534485]

>>14534005
not in the American regulatory scheme I don't think

[Anonymous No.14534486]

>>14534025
He's worked at some institutions where my friend's have worked. I probably know somebody who's worked with him.

[Anonymous No.14534492]

>>14533703
Kawaii!

[Anonymous No.14534503]

>>14534486
Ok so why are you friends with jews

[Anonymous No.14534504]

>>14534412
>>14534408

Elon will steal Bono's radial launch pods to man-rate Starship

[Anonymous No.14534513]

>>14534503
I am friends with people who like to build things.

[Anonymous No.14534564]

Man fuck these delays. They just want SLS to launch first. Also any update on that thing?

[Anonymous No.14534565]

>>14534564
Anon it's June, what are you doing

[Anonymous No.14534570]

>>14534438
>be NASA
>fund technology demonstrator
>it actually works
>notice it doesnt use Space Shitter parts
>divert funding to a demonstrator that doesnt work
DCX and DCXA werent SSTO, but at least archieved what they were designed to archieve

[Anonymous No.14534578]

Started working on a new turbopump system

[Anonymous No.14534579]

>>14534564
two more weeks (unironically)

[Anonymous No.14534585]

>>14534578

[Anonymous No.14534591]

>>14534570
I read up on the DCX program and I hate NASA now.

[Anonymous No.14534592]

>>14534007
Take your meds, pedo. Include chemical castration.

[Anonymous No.14534594]

remember kids: report and ignore

[Anonymous No.14534595]

>>14534591
thank you for doing your part anon

[Anonymous No.14534598]

>>14534564
why are you such a pussy? all you do is whine like a little bitch

[Anonymous No.14534601]

>>14534591
Yeah, I too hate NASA for wasting taxpayer dollars on that obvious scam

[Anonymous No.14534606]

>>14534595
It makes me wonder, if NASA is this inept at launch systems, are they even good at science?

What if there's just as much bloat there and we just don't know about it because we're not smart enough to understand what's going on. What if we could have like SpaceX labs doing the science at 1% of the cost, the way we do with launch systems.

[Anonymous No.14534609]

>>14534606
I guarantee that's true, none of these scientists are managed well, it's just a pack of dogs fighting for funding
unfortunately the government is incompetent and is unable to solve this issue without destroying their ability to do interesting work

[Anonymous No.14534624]

>>14534606
I think that NASAs internal structure is too rigid to allow groundbreaking ideas to even reach the higher-ups who decide what programs get funding etc. You could have went to NASA HQ with Falcon 9 blueprints in 2005 or so and it would have been rejected on the sole basis of not using Space Shuttle Tooling

[Anonymous No.14534626]

>>14534624
If we're this bad, imagine how the other programs must be.

[Anonymous No.14534635]

LV0010 static fire at SLC-46 successful.

[Anonymous No.14534642]

>>14534624
Every bureaucracy needs to be flushed out and started from scratch every 20-30 years or this happens.

[Anonymous No.14534664]

>>14534592
why would i do that?

[Anonymous No.14534669]

>>14534626
Government agencies are designed to work even when there's incompetent or actively malicious people in charge—a good system doesn't rely on key individuals performing well or being good faith actors. Abuse of power is worse than incompetency (and eventually leads to incompetency anyway).
Companies are terrible systems. They are inherently unsustainable and always become bloated and corrupt immediately when the key foundational individuals exit, but this also allows them to excel during their peak. Honestly society would benefit if all companies were forced to shut down after 20 years. Obviously we don't want a government that becomes completely unusable after a mere few decades.

[Anonymous No.14534679]

Why are there so many weird
>“GAME OVER”
and
>“ELON ANNOUNCES NEW ENGINE FOR MARS”
SpaceX videos on YouTube ?

[Anonymous No.14534680]

>>14534679
clickb8

[Anonymous No.14534689]

>>14534679
Auto-generated clickbait, algorithms are literally demons given access to our world by the careless hand of man.

[Anonymous No.14534692]

>>14534240
could you not make my cock so erect?

[Anonymous No.14534700]

>>14534679
Have you ever watched one of those? It's an... interesting experience.

[Anonymous No.14534704]

>>14534679
You don't know what the fuck just happened? Get with the times, granpa. And read the comments while at it, too

[Anonymous No.14534709]

>>14534704
>almost 1 million views
how

[Anonymous No.14534728]

>>14534046
8 minutes

[Anonymous No.14534732]

>>14534728
>grichka_and_igor.jpg

[Anonymous No.14534733]

>>14534689
>t. christcuck schizo

[Anonymous No.14534742]

>>14534733
Whatever you say, bipolar hindu.

[Anonymous No.14534753]

SpaceX won't win

[Anonymous No.14534757]

>>14534728
i assume this is in houston? because both berger and axiom are based there.

[Anonymous No.14534768]

Starting

[Anonymous No.14534780]

how do i fast forward this shit to the winners

[Anonymous No.14534782]

So who are those guys?

[Anonymous No.14534784]

why did they allow this announcer guy to have a viking haircut

[Anonymous No.14534790]

SPACEX BTFO
>SPACEX BTFO
SPACEX BTFO
>SPACEX BTFO

[Anonymous No.14534796]

>>14534709
Naive hopefuls are an easily exploitable demographic

[Anonymous No.14534798]

Collins aerospace team
Axiom

Its over

[Anonymous No.14534807]

>>14534669
The only reason bloated and inefficient corporations survive is because of direct intervention by the government and its regulators. Without assistance from them those same companies wouldn't last two years, let alone twenty. The answer is never more government; the answer is always less. Then corporations are forced to remain lean and efficient and the places where government corruption does take root are limited in the damage they can do by the fact that they have very limited power to do anything.

[Anonymous No.14534808]

>>14532761
Explaining it ruins it. You had to be there.

[Anonymous No.14534813]

>>14534753
>>14534798
SpaceX wasn't going to be selected because they are making their suit anyway, NASA gets a third suit for free.

[Anonymous No.14534815]

So this means SpaceX and NASA doesn't see eye to eye for this admin. So SpaceX Mars plan will diverge heavily from nasa.

Exciting future

[Anonymous No.14534821]

>>14534784
it's in vogue right now

[Anonymous No.14534831]

>no ILC Dover

wtf, surprising

[Anonymous No.14534835]

Fuck the haters. xEMU looks good in the standard colors.

[Anonymous No.14534838]

>>14534815
Would nasa block a private mission to the moon or mars if they cant get glory from it?

[Anonymous No.14534842]

Not satisfied with the award, but I am pleasantly surprised that they said it quickly. Straight to answer.

[Anonymous No.14534854]

>>14534838
They certainly wouldn't endorse it. Which might be a signal for regulators to stop or hinder the launch capabilities.

[Anonymous No.14534859]

So they won't show those suits?

[Anonymous No.14534862]

>>14534679
youtube removed the dislike count making clickbait rise to the top faster.

[Anonymous No.14534866]

ILC Dover not making suits for NASA for first time since 1960's...

[Anonymous No.14534872]

I've never heard of this Colins company and of course they pick Axiom too

Both run by former astronauts..... hmmmmmmm

[Anonymous No.14534875]

Collins Aerospace and ILC Dover are working together on CHADsuit

[Anonymous No.14534876]

the siege mentality of muskrats is actually insane

[Anonymous No.14534884]

fuck it, I hate elon now

[Anonymous No.14534885]

>>14534872
Raytheon subsidiary

[Anonymous No.14534888]

>>14534872
Collins is Raytheon

[Anonymous No.14534903]

>>14534884
lol who the fuck would wanna work in that shithole of a company anyway

[Anonymous No.14534915]

>>14534884
>executive staff
who cares

[Anonymous No.14534916]

There's literally no reason not to choose SpaceX, what the fuck is this scam, fuck oldspace

[Anonymous No.14534923]

My favourite era was 2016-2019 when it felt like SpaceX versus NASA. Looks like that era is coming back

[Anonymous No.14534927]

>>14534923
How ?

[Anonymous No.14534933]

>>14534927
SpaceX and NASA are diverging with their plans for space, especially Mars. NASA released their “mars plan” a few days ago and it’s 0% Starship.

[Anonymous No.14534934]

>>14534916
>>14534923
SpaceX lost fair and square
their proposal was bad, don't blame oldspace for it

[Anonymous No.14534941]

>>14534934
You've never even seen their suit proposal that shit is confidential

[Anonymous No.14534942]

>>14534866
Maybe that's a good thing.

[Anonymous No.14534945]

>>14534941
uh oh, anon is in trouble

[Anonymous No.14534946]

>>14534941
doesn't matter; it didn't get picked so I know it's bad

[Anonymous No.14534952]

If SpaceX still intends to make an EVA suit of their own for Mars we might end up with 3 US Spacesuits in total which is fucking crazy

[Anonymous No.14534957]

>>14534952
they're making their own for polaris dawn, no?

[Anonymous No.14534963]

When do you guys think Polaris 3 (Starship with people) will happen? If Polaris 1 is 2022/2023 I mean

[Anonymous No.14534964]

>>14534952
It's good to have different suits for redundancy.
They should probably work on having some commonality for external connections and such though. Don't want to end up in an Apollo 13 situation where you have to make a square peg fit a round hole.

[Anonymous No.14534966]

You can't just stick together some fabric and life support systems. It's not that easy in space suit design

[Anonymous No.14534972]

>>14534963
NET 2028

[Anonymous No.14534975]

>>14534838
would NASA delay FAA approval of a competing vehicle when they want to fly theirs first?
>inb4 meds

[Anonymous No.14534979]

>>14534966
SpaceX just shows me the amount of grift that exists in this world. Just think of the countless industries that pull this shit and have been stagnant for decades. Where would we be if every industry had its own Musk?

[Anonymous No.14534983]

Reminder, this admin has done nothing but hinder SpaceX. Thru encouraged blue origin to sue SpaceX. They delayed the utterance of the word SpaceX for a year after the HLS was chosen by the interm nasa team. They've demoted and removed key nasa officials from contact with SpaceX projects.
They've shown that they are not willing to work with SpaceX for any of the projects so far in this admin.

[Anonymous No.14534984]

>>14534975
The US military needs Starlink and Starlink needs Starship. The US gov gives no shit about NASA but they care a lot about their military

[Anonymous No.14534989]

>>14534923
NASA's funding starship as the ONLY human landing system at the moment.

[Anonymous No.14534994]

>>14534975
NASA isn't part of the DoT so they don't have any hierarchical power and there are way more influential people than balast bill trying to shape these outcomes. If anybody is getting in the way it's buttigieg's congress pals who are promising to back him for a presidential bid or whatever in exchange for delaying SpaceX because they're bought off by Amazon or Boeing (ie from Washington).

[Anonymous No.14534997]

>>14534979
I had to pay $1300 for my son’s iPhone. We need an Elon in that industry

[Anonymous No.14534998]

>>14534984
still sus that starship delays seem to correlate with sls delays

[Anonymous No.14535007]

>>14534997
>I had to
no you didn't

[Anonymous No.14535009]

>>14534998
They don't.

[Anonymous No.14535010]

>>14534989
This was the interm team without the political parties making decision.

>>14534983
This admin even wrote a letter complaining to fcc about starlink. So the new nasa admin isn't a fan of SpaceX and it shows.

Not a single partnership project with this admin.

[Anonymous No.14535011]

>>14534997
Should've bought him a flip phone and told him to be grateful.

[Anonymous No.14535012]

>>14534975
>>14534998
Most delays seem to correlate with other delays. Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity(including bureaucracy)

[Anonymous No.14535013]

>>14534997
>I had to pay $1300 for my son’s iPhone
KYS

[Anonymous No.14535017]

>>14534884
Is SpaceX fully on-site?

Also this looks like a reverse vax mandate deal - ending remote work forces paranoid bluehairs to quit without a "Tesla announces layoffs" headline.

[Anonymous No.14535022]

>>14534964
>>14534952
>NASA designed the contract to endure and evolve with needs of the agency and space industry. The contract also provides the agency with an optional mechanism to add additional vendors that were not selected in the original award announcement as the commercial space services market evolves.

[Anonymous No.14535031]

Yes Lord, I will remind them
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1531307969308237824
>Yeah, the public has no idea how much Tesla and SpaceX have been attacked/undermined, because we aren’t unionized (yet offer highest pay in industry!) and this administration would rather a company be dead than not unionized

[Anonymous No.14535032]

>>14535017
>fully on-site
>ending remote work
reading comprehension

[Anonymous No.14535038]

>>14534884
I hate SpaceX for not paying me to do nothing while I sit home and shitpost on /sfg/. I always wanted to work in spaceflight without doing any real work.

[Anonymous No.14535040]

>>14535017
it probably has to do with IP instead. If an employee comes up with an IP while on campus the company owns it down right, if they do it at home it's questionable.

[Anonymous No.14535050]

>>14535031
We've only gathered hints here and there from SpaceX, I wonder what the actual details are like. Probably related to Starship delays, starlink delays, and possibly CLD and Eva suits

[Anonymous No.14535053]

>>14534884
>elon's censored email is that short
so it's defeinitely just his initials, [e-mail] right?

[Anonymous No.14535054]

>>14534884
BASED.
WFH strips us of humanity. Humans work most efficiently in groups.

[Anonymous No.14535057]

>>14535032
The email posted is for Tesla, hombre. I'm curious whether SpaceX is in the position where they *should* have gotten a similar email today or whether they've already ended remote work.

[Anonymous No.14535058]

>>14534989
https://usnc.com/ultra-safe-nuclear-selected-by-diu-for-high-delta-v-nuclear-small-spacecraft-prototype/

>Ultra Safe Nuclear will develop a concept for radioisotope-powered spacecraft with greater than 10 km/s of delta-V, many times greater than today’s small spacecraft propulsion systems. Advanced nuclear fuels capable of providing over one million kilowatt hours (kWh) of energy in just a few kilograms will be evaluated as part of the project, as will the power conversion and supporting propulsion apparatus essential to development of high delta-V small spacecraft.

>“Rather than using plutonium-238, we are adapting materials from the medical radioisotope industry,” explained Dr. Christopher Morrison, Chief Engineer for Radioisotopes, Advanced Technologies Division. “This approach offers a technically viable, cost-effective path toward sustainable commercialization.”

[Anonymous No.14535062]

>>14535057
You're still not getting the point. The email was sent to Tesla executives only.
Im sure they let the code monkeys work remote still.
They shouldn't though because remote is stupid (cope slackers)

[Anonymous No.14535063]

https://usnc.com/ultra-safe-nuclear-selected-by-diu-for-high-delta-v-nuclear-small-spacecraft-prototype/

>Ultra Safe Nuclear will develop a concept for radioisotope-powered spacecraft with greater than 10 km/s of delta-V, many times greater than today’s small spacecraft propulsion systems. Advanced nuclear fuels capable of providing over one million kilowatt hours (kWh) of energy in just a few kilograms will be evaluated as part of the project, as will the power conversion and supporting propulsion apparatus essential to development of high delta-V small spacecraft.

>“Rather than using plutonium-238, we are adapting materials from the medical radioisotope industry,” explained Dr. Christopher Morrison, Chief Engineer for Radioisotopes, Advanced Technologies Division. “This approach offers a technically viable, cost-effective path toward sustainable commercialization.”

[Anonymous No.14535065]

>>14535063
So it's just a big RTG?

[Anonymous No.14535070]

>>14535062
>Im sure they let the code monkeys work remote still.
I'm sure they don't.

Oh, well, I guess now that I've said that we're at a conjecture impasse.

>They shouldn't though because remote is stupid (cope slackers)
Until you find you can't hire any more talent and company growth stalls.

[Anonymous No.14535078]

>>14535063
> radioisotope-powered
I was right and this isn't real NEP. Nuclearniggers apologize.
>>14535065
It's very similar but the radioisotope is short lived, in this case the half-life is about 130 days.

[Anonymous No.14535080]

>>14535065
An RTG that will power electric propulsion.

[Anonymous No.14535087]

>>14535022
>>14535022
>>14535022

[Anonymous No.14535090]

>>14535078
>I was right and this isn't real NEP. Nuclearniggers apologize.

Anyone who confused the DIU project with DARPA or NASA's is a moron.

[Anonymous No.14535091]

[Anonymous No.14535095]

>>14535087
So they left the door open for SpaceX.

[Anonymous No.14535096]

>>14535062
There was an additional email sent to everyone that was similar

[Anonymous No.14535098]

>>14535091
There is no space suit without ILC Dover please understand
actually i’m pretty sure even spacex uses them for their IVA suits lol

[Anonymous No.14535099]

>>14535095
And anyone else who puts in the effort though I doubt Blue Origin will

[Anonymous No.14535105]

>>14535090
>Back pedaling after you(yes you specifically) claimed USN was going to use a fission reactor
>moron
Kek, pot meet kettle.

[Anonymous No.14535111]

The new suits just don't compare in aesthetics

[Anonymous No.14535115]

[Anonymous No.14535124]

[Anonymous No.14535140]

[Anonymous No.14535150]

>both companies won't demonstrate the spacesuits until 2025

WHAT

THE

FUCK

[Anonymous No.14535158]

>>14535098
>actually i’m pretty sure even spacex uses them for their IVA suits lol
maybe for consulting. spacex has an in house sewing shop.

[Anonymous No.14535162]

>>14535150
when did you think we were going to the moon?

[Anonymous No.14535163]

>>14535105
Ultra Safe is part of the NTP with DARPA's DRACO program, as I said

>Anyone who confused the DIU project with DARPA or NASA's is a moron.

[Anonymous No.14535165]

>>14535162
Demonstration means ISS spacewalk demo...

[Anonymous No.14535172]

>>14535150
What were you expecting? 2025 is less than three years away.

[Anonymous No.14535180]

>>14535172
wtf.... its already June

[Anonymous No.14535184]

>>14535150
It ain't that easy

[Anonymous No.14535203]

3.5 billion contract for space suits. So that's why SpaceX didn't win. The probably bid like 10 million.

[Anonymous No.14535206]

>https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/05/astroforge-aims-to-succeed-where-other-asteroid-mining-companies-have-failed/
imagine suckering VC's out of millions by claiming you have a "plan" to mine asteroids. they literally have no viable strategy but they're making bank anyway.

[Anonymous No.14535209]

>>14535163
Actually you implied that USN would use a reactor for both projects, later you walked the NEP project back to a long lived RTG after I told you it would be radioisotope powered. Now if USN won't use a reactor for electric propulsion, which project will? Do you actually buy this retarded shit?
>We need a billion dollar expendable nuclear rocket because you can't get 10 km/s of delta-v with chemical

[Anonymous No.14535210]

>>14535206
BUT ITS SPACEX AND VIRGIN GALATIC ALUMNI ITLL TOTALLY WORK THIS TIME!1111

[Anonymous No.14535211]

>>14535096
here are both of them, musk also replied to a post talking about this directly so they are basically confirmed to be from him

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1531867103854317568

>They should pretend to work somewhere else

I wonder if he has some actual data to back this up, or he just wants people to come back to the office just because? because this will definitely be a negative for recruitment, there should be an actual good reason to do this
the studies about this seem to be a bit mixed, some show actually better productivity from remote work but I guess it depends on what you do for example

[Anonymous No.14535221]

>>14535211
>because this will definitely be a negative for recruitment,
Those who care about muh work-life balance shouldn't consider working for SpaceX to begin with and he is intentionally trying to shoo them away.

[Anonymous No.14535223]

>>14535209
>Actually you implied that USN would use a reactor for both projects, later you walked the NEP project back to a long lived RTG after I told you it would be radioisotope powered.

Neither of these happened but I do remember an anon insist that their radioisotope electric craft wasn't an RTG.

[Anonymous No.14535225]

>>14535203
could be because they are going to do one anyway, this might help with competition a bit
if spacex is the only rocket company left with no competitors, will they really drive down prices even if they can sell launches without it?

[Anonymous No.14535229]

>>14535221
this is for tesla too

[Anonymous No.14535234]

>>14535225
3.5 b for space suits ain't bringing competition. It's bringing in pork. Space suits costs more than Starships. Lmao

[Anonymous No.14535243]

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2022/first-images-from-nasa-s-webb-space-telescope-coming-soon

[Anonymous No.14535250]

>>14533323
He and his brother literally did all the programming for their first company Zip2. Elon's been coding since he was a teen. I don't doubt that he hasn't in over 20 years at this point but there's no way that's true. He probably does know nothing about Python though.

[Anonymous No.14535256]

>>14535250
lol you can learn python in like a weekend if you have previous programming experience

[Anonymous No.14535259]

>>14535250
So he doesn't know how to run Python code

[Anonymous No.14535269]

>>14535259
the bot banner that this dude wrote was a super simple few line code that compares replies usernames to your username using levenshtein distance (check how different the username is from yours basically), but if its so simple it would also report parody accounts, fan accounts that mention the name etc
basically useless

[Anonymous No.14535275]

Lmao Berger questioning the pork in the hearing

[Anonymous No.14535279]

>>14535223
>Neither of these happened
NEP is literally defined by it using a nuclear reactor, this is radioisotope electric propulsion (REP). Similarly RTGs must produce energy for a reasonable amount of time. I'm not just being pedantic, they're selling inferior technology as something it's not.

[Anonymous No.14535284]

>>14535275
For good reason. Seems like it maybe a return to pork funding season

[Anonymous No.14535288]

>>14535259
Probably not no, but the assertion that he doesn't know programming period is bullshit.

[Anonymous No.14535290]

>>14535279
>they're selling inferior technology as something it's not

Who is they? The initial announcement explicitly stated they were using Embercore, the only debate here was whether Embercore was an RTG.

[Anonymous No.14535292]

>Elon after Grimes left him for a tranny

[Anonymous No.14535298]

>>14535259
Don't confuse knowing python with knowing all aspects of a particular code. Could be some unfamiliarity with Twitter api or web scrapping or some other aspects

No one has 100% knowledge of all third party functions. That's why all programmers ask for help from other programmers regarding new stuff.

The doge guy confusing this could simply mean lack of humility or the guy hasn't coded much to begin with so he doesn't know what's norm.

[Anonymous No.14535301]

>>14534285
Nah, you just gotta find the nearby synagogue and its cohencidentally close by manor and spray that shit with pork blood and put up crosses. Then burn them.

[Anonymous No.14535303]

Two more weeks
Simple 'as

[Anonymous No.14535305]

>>14534700
no, i'm worried it would screw with my recommendations for months

[Anonymous No.14535309]

>>14535250
I unironically cringed when I saw that tweet where he recommended python as a general purpose language

[Anonymous No.14535313]

>>14535292
Is that A MUTHERFUCKING iFUNNY LOGO

[Anonymous No.14535314]

>>14535290
>Who is they?
Both you and USN have referred to it as "nuclear electric propulsion" despite that being extremely misleading. It took digging through the EmberCore™(lol) patent to find out what they're really up to and only today did they clarify that they intend to do REP and not NEP. Do you get paid for this or do you just have sunken cost fallacy?

[Anonymous No.14535316]

>>14535150
Honestly seems like a reasonable time for an EVA suit

[Anonymous No.14535327]

>>14535150
Is possible they want to kept it a secret from SpaceX and others who are also independently developing their own.

[Anonymous No.14535339]

I was wondering, what it the advantage of an near-rectilinear halo orbit that other, simpler orbits don't offer? Is it the fact that the orbit is slowly twisted by Earth's gravity to alway be parallel to Earth, or is it something else?

[Anonymous No.14535344]

>>14535316
haven't they been showing off a suit for years now?

[Anonymous No.14535347]

>>14535344
A basic design is easy, it's the technical side that takes years. Starship was revealed 6 years ago, and it's still in prototype stages

[Anonymous No.14535348]

>>14535211
buddy of mine who works for tesla says that all of the new hires work in-person anyway and this is probably for the more senior people because elon thinks it's unfair and bad for morale if only the new hires have to show up for work

[Anonymous No.14535350]

>>14535314
https://www.geekwire.com/2022/pentagon-boosts-two-seattle-ventures-working-on-nuclear-powered-prototypes-for-space-applications/

[Anonymous No.14535355]

>>14535316
>>14535344
Its a fucking suit with a battery pack. NASA had already internally spent nearly a billion dollar making their own suit which they have shared bits and pieces with the companies. One of which already builds space suits for NASA.

[Anonymous No.14535356]

>>14535339
i keep hearing 2 main reasons for doing it
1 is as you say, it always has LOS of the earth
2 is access to the poles

[Anonymous No.14535358]

>>14535348
Its for the senior executive staff. Musk isn't a fan of management leaders sending emails instead of just providing direct feedback in person.

[Anonymous No.14535360]

>>14535348
it's sent to "ExecStaff" so yeah, pretty much

[Anonymous No.14535365]

>>14535347
sure, but this was for much longer, like started during the constellation program

[Anonymous No.14535396]

>>14535309
it is exactly that. cope & seethe

[Anonymous No.14535403]

>>14535350
I stand corrected and it was mentioned previously. Now just edit your website to remove any mention of nuclear electric propulsion and we're square.

[Anonymous No.14535413]

>>14535314
Both NEP and REP are acceptable terminology for Ultra Safe's craft, control your autism.

[Anonymous No.14535417]

>>14535413
>Both NEP and REP are acceptable terminology for Ultra Safe's craft, control your autism
SHILL BEGONE

[Anonymous No.14535421]

>>14535417
This but unironically. Anyone trying to conflate the two is very likely a shill.

[Anonymous No.14535423]

>>14535417
The only shill here is that anon who works for Astra.

[Anonymous No.14535425]

>>14535423
That guy is also insufferable

[Anonymous No.14535431]

>>14535396
Making everything in python is like eating cheeseburgers for lunch every day. Yeah it feels good to be a slob, but it catches up with you eventually.

[Anonymous No.14535434]

>>14534933
Didn’t see it. Post it?

[Anonymous No.14535441]

>>14535425
You're all insufferable I hate everyone of you faggots.

j/k lmao

[Anonymous No.14535442]

>>14535441
>You're all insufferable I hate everyone of you faggots.
This but unironically. I hate every poster including myself.

[Anonymous No.14535444]

>>14535423
Atleast he works in the industry

[Anonymous No.14535449]

>>14533184
But S24 is literally going to launch starlinks on the first flight

[Anonymous No.14535451]

HAPPENING
(not really)

[Anonymous No.14535462]

>>14535451
Boeing literally has the ability to only launch 6 operational Starliners. Idk how they’ll fly them till 2030

[Anonymous No.14535466]

>>14535444
That just shows Astra will hire anyone, even an open pedophile. May as well go mop floors at KSC, your contribution to spaceflight would be greater than the entirety of making yet another shitty smallsat launcher.

[Anonymous No.14535474]

>suit announcement
>no one actually posting about what was and wasn’t said
Thread has gone to such shit

[Anonymous No.14535484]

>>14535474
Read up

[Anonymous No.14535485]

>>14535474
Axiom and Collins are getting more than an SLS costs to make space suits. Would probably be worth it for SpaceX to protest on cost alone.

[Anonymous No.14535489]

>>14535474
>no one actually posting about what was and wasn’t said
What was and wasn't said?

[Anonymous No.14535494]

>>14535489
The things that were said, and the things that were not said, respectfully.

[Anonymous No.14535516]

>>14535485
It’s expensive (too much so) but that’s not quite accurate. I want to find the actual text of the contract but it seems that a significant portion of that 3.5 billion is the amount that could be awarded for the actual delivery of space suits for missions out for a long time frame. It’s still a commercial competition so they’ll be competing for that.
I’m gonna try to find a recording of the call

[Anonymous No.14535525]

>>14535516
Just watch the part where they had to have the guy at the audience answer Bergers question lmao, called it a "ceiling" and they dodged his other question too

[Anonymous No.14535534]

>>14534957
Polaris dawn will literally use modified IVA suit

[Anonymous No.14535545]

>>14535534
with a tether

[Anonymous No.14535548]

The younger woman on the panel was insufferably fake lmao

[Anonymous No.14535550]

>>14535516
How much do you think the suit development should cost? $1 billion? $2 billion? $3 billion?

$500 million for extra for 50 of those suits @ $10 million a pop?

Its beyond expensive. Suits should not be costing more than Starship program. This is just pork funding.

[Anonymous No.14535556]

>>14535243

>“As we near the end of preparing the observatory for science, we are on the precipice of an incredibly exciting period of discovery about our universe. The release of Webb’s first full-color images will offer a unique moment for us all to stop and marvel at a view humanity has never seen before,” said Eric Smith, Webb program scientist at NASA Headquarters in Washington. “These images will be the culmination of decades of dedication, talent, and dreams – but they will also be just the beginning.”

Stop teasing uss reeeeee

[Anonymous No.14535567]

>>14534564
Fuck all journos. Even berger.

[Anonymous No.14535580]

>>14535550
Probably going to be porky but it prefer it when posters make posts based on what is happening in fact and not what they feel based on what they heard other people say was said. Namaste

[Anonymous No.14535588]

Ultrasafe is actually shit, not just misleading. From their NIAC bid in 2021:
>USNC-Tech is proposing a compact 20 kWe, 500 kg dry mass, radioisotope-electric-propulsion spacecraft design powered by a novel Chargeable Atomic Battery (CAB) that is capable of ∆Vs on the order of 100 km/s with a power system specific mass of 5-8 kg/kWe.
So the beginning of life specific power that is worse already demonstrated solar panels. The battery has a shelf-life of just months despite that a high energy burn with electric propulsion could take years. Realistically it would end up expended as recharging would require them bringing it back to Earth.
>>14535339
Looks like NRHO the best orbit Orion can access and still have fuel reserve. Overall LLO seems ideal for a depot or the staging point for a lander, the delta-v required for station keeping really isn't that bad.

[Anonymous No.14535637]

>>14535588
>So the beginning of life specific power that is worse already demonstrated solar panels.

How big/heavy would solar panels that produce the same power be? Embercore itself is tiny according to Ultra Safe's website.

[Anonymous No.14535641]

>>14535588
>The battery has a shelf-life of just months

[citation needed]

[Anonymous No.14535648]

>>14535641
his ass

[Anonymous No.14535656]

>>14535641
>>14535588
https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/spacetech/niac/2021_Phase_I/Extrasolar_Object_Interceptor_and_Sample_Return/
>A spacecraft powered by this technology will be able to catch up to an extrasolar object, collect a sample, and return to earth within a 10-year timeframe.

Going to guess there is a reason why anon omitted a link.

[Anonymous No.14535661]

>>14535656
>The core innovation of this spacecraft architecture that makes this amazing mission possible is the CAB, which has a power density of over 30 times that of Pu-238.

Funny how the anon saying Embercore is shit was accusing others of being shills.

[Anonymous No.14535666]

I can't believe Elon has a daughter, it kind of ruins the mythos of him only having sons
at least she'll have the greatest claim at being the princess of mars though
also, imagine being the guy (realistically guys plural) who gets to fuck elon's daughter
wew

[Anonymous No.14535673]

>>14535666
uh oh, looks like satan is getting involved

[Anonymous No.14535699]

>>14535313
YOU'RE DAMN RIGHT IT IS

[Anonymous No.14535735]

I listened to the conference so you don’t have to. Interesting things said:
>collins claims to already have suit hardware, specifically the executive said he and another person wore one before coming over
>collins claims to have a modular design, capable of being resized in 30 minutes
>actually collins guy seems to have given intelligent thought to spacesuit design, kinda makes the axiom guy look like a rube
>>Houstonian asking about local jerbs
>based David from discovery channel again
>task orders for demonstration for ISS and Lunar missions first, must be competed for, will alter from there
>suits are not finished (duh) but axiom and collins intend to iterate on its design as its being used and and purchased
>collins seems to intend to use their modular design to allow them to build a suit which can be used for microgravity and on various lunar and planetary surfaces, along with a focus on ensuring it can work with various stations and rovers.
>source selection won’t be out till end of June
>fucking xemu still being worked on
>probably won’t replace the fucking ISS suits until after Artemis III, probably during the long gap before the next landing
>based faust asking about money
>Axiom has funded the investment to develop their suit in full themselves
>>Artemis III is the lunar demonstration mission for suits, just like it is for HLS. It’s not totally clear to me if both would be utilized for this, as they mentioned needing to compete for this before.

[Anonymous No.14535743]

>>14535735
>>one company could theoretically win all awards
>task orders sent out, providers will compete, very flexible funding for missions, seems to be implied that they can end funding
>seems also possible that funding can be milked for gibs, will be clear before the end of June when we see the actual wording
>collins seems committed to selling their suit to other people
>Eric asking about contracts: is it like CLPS? It’s 3.5 bil through 2034, why?
>little different from CLPS - lower risk but higher investment from NASA because of that. 3.5 is contract ceiling through 2034. A starting fund WAS given to both, amount will not be made clear it seems? HLS funding was only for the development of the Artemis III landing. After development all that money is earmarked as the ceiling for awards for contracts to provide services and hardware. As per earlier in the conference this would include, it seems, maintenance by the companies of the suits purchased
>Editorialising: this makes it more like the upcoming lunar landing contract, which provides cash for development but only gives awards for winners for contracts for certain missions.
>I’m not happy with the high cost, but it seems like it’ll be a development cost and then -possible- contracts of variable cost, not set in stone, for every crewed Artemis mission, the furnishing of the ISS, and possibly other missions out to 2034 that are more blue sky at the moment.
>they have though said they’ve invested more here in development than they did in HLS, perhaps in part because it’s critical to current and future missions
Without seeing the contract I can’t be sure but I’m not worried about the contract so much as I am worried about whether future NASA admins will manage it responsibly. Also collins ended up looking much better than axiom since they sent an actual technical guy.

[Anonymous No.14535760]

>>14535637
Less than the size of a single iROSA which would produce more power than that design, although those panels are a bit heavy compared to the prototype ROSA.
>>14535656
My source just didn't make the extrasolar object part clear. If it was designed for that it probably would have a slower decaying radioisotope rather than Thulium-170 which is listed in their patent the active material of EmberCore. It cannot be Pu-238, that would be much heavier.
>>14535661
How does that make me a shill? Pu-238 has a shit power density but it's used because it's a slowly decaying isotope that can provide power over decades instead of months. If I'm shilling anything it's just that radioisotope electric propulsion is garbage.

[Anonymous No.14535764]

>>14535550
>How much do you think the suit development should cost?
50 million at most, anyone who charges more should be executed.

[Anonymous No.14535829]

How should EVA suits evolve for surface expeditions?
I think we should make suits like the Varia suit from metroid, a hard metal shell on the outside with a morphsuit-like inner suit. The exosuit could house internal science equipment and conouter equipment, while the inner suit has basic life support equipment.

[Anonymous No.14535840]

>>14535829
What a useless post.

[Anonymous No.14535848]

>>14535840
get off the conouter and say that to my face

[Anonymous No.14535849]

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>>14535847
>>14535847
>>14535847
>>14535847

[Anonymous No.14535867]

>>14535829
I don’t understand why people can’t just make EVA suits hard exoskeletons. Metal joints with overlapping seals and all.

[Anonymous No.14535924]

>>14535203
>>14535234
>space suits costs more than HLS
you can't make this up

[Anonymous No.14536099]

>>14535867
youd have 30 billion dollar grift instead of 3 billion, be grateful

[Anonymous No.14536180]

>>14535211
Tesla had 3 million people who applied last year and they hired something like 25,000 out of them. The sheer amount of people that want to work for Tesla or SpaceX outpace just about every other company on the planet. Even if they lose some talent, they can source new talent to pick up the slack. It also keeps bringing in fresh blood, fresh ideas for the company. Someone elsewhere mentioned, maybe it was a youtube comment, that this is basically a theological purge conducted by Musk. Essentially: "if you believe in the mission, in the goal of transitioning the world to a sustainable future, building an AGI, solving computer vision self locomotion/navigation/decision making, and are interested in putting 1 million people on Mars by 2050-2075, then you want to work here and are willing to go above and beyond to make that sci-fi future come true. If you don't want to put in that effort, I'm sure there are other companies that can satisfy your work/life balance desires and compensation desires for a more relaxed lifestyle and this company is not for you. Thank you for your service until now, but we won't be continuing with you any further."

[Anonymous No.14536181]

>>14536180
>>14535211
I would also point out that it came in the news today that Boeing is moving its headquarters to Northern Virginia, which distances its executives and upper management EVEN FURTHER from its engineers and brings it even closer into the same cock dancing games that politicians play with each other than ever before. I would suspect that some of this decision making is a shot across the bow at that, perhaps at the current admin in a way, and simultaneously also at Bezos and Blue Origin--but this is definitely a bit of a reach, I'll admit it outright.

[Anonymous No.14536193]

>>14535462
NASA's smoking crack if they think Boeing is going to fly 6 missions on a single Starliner. Boeing only ever built 3 Starliner capsules in existence. The first one was retired after the prototype phase, the second one shit the bed during OFT-1, and the third one is the one that hobbled its way to the ISS to pitifully wave the flag of mission success. Boeing, because of Fixed Cost of Commercial Crew, ate a $400M cost for the OFT-1 fuckup and no follow up payment from NASA even though NASA in the past, has at least ONCE, violated fixed cost contract and paid Boeing extra money anyway due to a combination of Boing and Congressional pressure. Either way, they're unlikely to allocate more capital to building a second Starliner capsule. If anything goes wrong with this one, they're out of the game. Especially if something goes wrong while crew is within and ends up killing astronauts. That would be Boing Max8 PR disaster at a level unfathomable.

[Anonymous No.14536204]

>>14533361
Hi, I hope you read this reply and really think about how dumb you are