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Irritable Bowel Syndrome sucks and conventional doctors aren’t much help.

What are some possible causes and cures to beat this mysterious illness for good.

Please, I want my life back.

>> No.14515671

your gut flora is fucked by bad diet. you unironically should ask about poop transplants

>> No.14515678

>>14515671
Redpill me on poop transplants and the process of getting one plus the mechanics behind how it works to fix IBS.

I know you’re not trolling because I’ve heard briefly of this before.

>> No.14515691

i removed all dairy from my life
also around this time i started drinking herbal teas, but i don’t know if that changed anything

>> No.14515693
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extreme problems require extreme solutions
every ibs is different unfortunately
the most extreme diets come with the most extreme problems
ahead of you is a long road of minmaxing your food. as a modern man you are used to eating literally thousands of things, a hundred spices, a million obscure chemicals and """"""natural flavors"""""" and ""generally accepted as safe (except in california)"" and """"""""""""natural coloring"""""""""""". you will reduce this to a dozen or so things.
gone will be the days of sorbitol, sodium acid pyrophosphate, potassium lactate, modified whole half natural doublemonodigorinnoshoichnicalciumcucksoyphate...
you enter a new age, the age of USDA BEEF, EGG, SALT, and water from the fucking tap with a filter you replace often. Say goodbye to your precious spices, your sauces, pizza, and all fast food you fat loser. No, seriously, unplug your microwave. Sell it. Throw it in the garbage, whatever. You WILL thank me later, you will NOT eat the bugs, and you WILL own your own land and car. And you will be miserable regardless because fixing IBS doesn't bring her back.

>> No.14515700

Everyone in my family suffers from IBS except me. I have the most unique diet of all my family; I avoid eating vegetables 95% of the time. I rarely get symptoms of IBS.
>Eat no vegetables
>High meat diet
>Have regular diet
>Lift
>Drink lots of water

>> No.14515703

>>14515678
i had a friend that went to a party college. he developed IBS and it made him miserable. i always suspected he had somehow nuked his gut flora by heavy drinking during early college.
but that was just a hunch. i'm not an MD. i don't know why he got it. and i don't know what made it go away.

the purpose of fecal transplants is to reestablish a healthy gut biome (the microbes in your digestive tract).

>> No.14515707

keep in mind that microbes in your gut do a lot of the work of digestion for you

>> No.14515725

>>14515691
everyone gets a limited amount of dairy they can eat in their life before their shit gets fucked...once you reach that limit youre lactose intolerant

>> No.14515764

>>14515668
Stop eating shit food.
Cut out sugar and caffiene.
Eat more bio live yogurt, and fermented food like sauerkraut.

>> No.14515845

>>14515668
Bad posture. Compressed vagus nerve meaning that there isn't proper signalling from the brain to sequence digestion. If the smooth muscles are ill-timed then doesn't matter how many poop transplants or eubiotics you stuff down your gullet the feedback cycle will fuck up because they don't get to digest your food properly, which means they can't maintain optimal population levels. Compressed Vagus Nerves are also associated with elevated stress, and you know what that does to digestion: all that fast metabolizing and cortisol to give you quick energy.

>> No.14515870

>>14515668
>IBS
Your gut bacteria is out of whack and/or your diet is bad. There are many different types of IBS, the symptoms for each type are numerous and difficult to describe. Doctors use the term "IBS" because they don't know shit about shit. If a study doesn't exist then your symptoms don't exist, at least not in a way a doctor can care about

There are a lot of studies need to be done to identify all of the different types of IBS and their causes. These studies won't be done any time soon.

>cures to beat this mysterious illness for good.

Unironically eating a big fat mouthful of shit is one of the only legitimate cures. Start with your own and move onto other people who report good gut health (Obviously in good general health too. Steve the cracked out meth head is unlikely to be a good candidate)

>> No.14515898

>>14515870
>Steve the cracked out meth head
That's it I'm never letting Steve shit in my mouth again. That's what I get for listening to /adv/.

>> No.14515909

>>14515845
>Compressed vagus nerve meaning that there isn't proper signalling from the brain to sequence digestion

Anal sex can cause constipation because of this

>> No.14515924

>>14515909
the girls who let me through their backdoor usually told me it actually helped them with chronic constipation in some cases

>> No.14515932

>>14515668
Be vegan. It will help heal you, but the effects probably won't be noticable overnight.

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>>14515845
>compressed vegus nerve

Never heard about this. What’s the solution to this?
Why would mine be compressed?

>> No.14515947

>>14515924
A classic double-edged sword.

On one hand it can loosen what is already stuck but on the other it could delay a movement, giving it time to dry out and form a plug.

I've found medications can cause constipation in two ways. Opiates must put the gut to sleep, everything moves so slow the turds just dry out into sticky nuggets that don't like to move. Other drugs can cause your abdomen and butthole to be tense enough to delay the process.

>> No.14516015

Mine was 100% cured with SSRIs, can eat whatever food I want now, no serious side effects from the meds.

>> No.14516052

>>14515668
I think the exact cause and solution is different for everyone, but for me the number one thing that helped was eating smaller portions and no second helpings until the first serving has had an hour or so to digest.

>> No.14516063

>its ther blimmin sugars and bad posture!
So many crackpot answers in this thread. You all might as well suggest homeopathy you bunch of fucking pseuds.

>> No.14516079

>>14516063
Idk about bad posture but a shitty, full of processed food and sugar diet is most likely the cause of IBS

>> No.14516089

>>14515700
Eating tons of vegtables with an occasional tartar helps my IBS. Plus if the weather is too hot I get bloated with air at the same time I actually shallow and eat air. At least that's what my doctor told me after scanning.

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>>14515668
Avoid FODMAPs.

>> No.14516697

>>14516015
What specific one?

>> No.14516802

>>14515668
I would start by avoiding eating anything that causes your stomach to get upset, even a little bit, for instance milf is fine for me but things like buttermilk, creme fraiche and greek yogurt almost always turn my stomach. On the other hand things like dates, sweet potatoes and meats seem not to have any reaction to, so listening to your body is a key part in beating something like IBS or controlling symptoms.

>> No.14516806

>>14516802
milk*

>> No.14516808

>>14515668
Iodine deficiency
Iodine

Any other questions?

>> No.14516885

>>14516697
Paroxetine

>> No.14517004

>>14516808
i used iodized salt though

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>>14517004

>> No.14517325

>>14515725
That's contrary to what I was told the mechanism of lactose intolerance is.
Apparently, there are bacteria in your gut that digest lactose. Normally, they would die during early childhood because humans are breastfed only for a short time, and those bacteria just don't get any nutrients. The thing is that we feed babies and children milk and cheese en masse, so that the bacteria survive for much longer.

>> No.14517330

I developed IBS from a gut infection a long time ago. Really sucks to have that fear when going hiking.

>> No.14517334

>>14516063
PUFAs are literally causing this you schizo.

>> No.14517349

>>14515668
Fixed mine with intermittent fasting and less shitty food. Green smoothie in the morning, lots of water, and whatever I want for lunch/dinner (try to get a small amount of greens in each meal). Stop eating after 6pm, smoothie at 8am. Being active also helps.

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>>14515693
One of the few based posts I've seen on this troll board.

>> No.14517490

>>14515668
are you a nervous person? destress and drink less coffee

a handy medicine is pepperment oil capsules, but they must be in a capsule so they disperse in the bowel. relaxes the muscles a bit.

>> No.14518024

You burgers are in delusion about meat.
Modern meat is ofc being poisoned by globohomo.

>> No.14518063

>>14516089
the between between you and me is that you think a food "helps" IBS. my lifestyle avoids IBS almost entirely. i don't need something that "helps" because I don't suffer from it.

>> No.14518074
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>>14515668
I had what the doctor called "IBS" during my youth. I was prescibed these big, horrible vanilla flavored pills, which I hid in my room.

My bowels improved substantially after I started lifting and eating sufficient nutrition. MOst people I know who complain of IBS, etc. eat diets that dont contain enough nutrition, e.g. inadequate protein, choline, vitamins, etc.

>> No.14518100

I removed all bread from my diet and found out Im allergic to gluten
Now I dont get sick but every day is like living in a form of hell where sourdough can sodomize you

>> No.14518205

its all in the mind, all IBS are neurotic pieces of shit, lil cowardly people that are anxious all the time, clench their ass, clench their intestines, mantain unsane gut flora. get therapy, fix head. youre a joke, fags. ""science board"" my ass.

>> No.14518217

BPC-157, look it up

good luck

>> No.14518226

>>14515691
>i removed all dairy from my life
horrible advice.
dairy is what makes intestinal flora balanced.

People need more dairy, not eat less of it, unless they are black. Most blacks have the gene that causes them to have lactose intolerance.

>> No.14518228

>>14515725
>everyone gets a limited amount of dairy they can eat in their life before their shit gets fucked.
you are stupid. face that fact.

>> No.14518238

>>14515700
>I avoid eating vegetables 95% of the time
This.
also realllllllly avoid fruit/fructose.

Stick to meat and dairy and whole grains, not processed flour/pasta or other garbage.

NEVER eat packaged foods like TV dinners, etc.

Cut carbs, as carbohydrates are what feed the bad microbeds in your gut and body.

Eat more good microbes that exist in dairy like plain yogurt, NOT that flavored sweetened shit.

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i have perfect gut flora, never a bowel problem, never pain, my shits are nice not too creamy, not too hard either, just perfect, here take note:

>LOTS of cheese, good, proper cheese
>red meat, chicken meat, eggs
>NO pork
>LOTS of avocado
>LOTS of deez nutz
>LOTS of tomato, twice a week big salad lunch
>homebrew COFFEE (this one is important)
>olive oil
>pasta

Ill live 300 years while you niggers still spend 45min in the bathroom trying to get a single nugget out, LOL

>> No.14518403

>>14515909
I didn't know this
>>14515939
>What’s the solution to this?
Sitting more naturally and improving your posture. If that doesn't work then they need to actually stimulate the nerve
>Why would mine be compressed?
Working at a desk for long hours, looking down at your phone all day, being tall and having to constantly 'duck' under things and crook your next down to make eye contact with people. Trades that cause you to crook your neck to observe or work in confined or low spaces. Childhood posture problems. There's many reasons it might be compressed.

>> No.14518504

>>14518217
>BPC 157 is marketed heavily in functional medicine. There are neither randomized controlled trials of BPC-157 in humans nor clinical evidence of its benefit in human physiology
>all studies come from a single research group
No, thanks.

>> No.14518506

>>14518226
>every Asian has IBS
Somehow I doubt that.

>> No.14518511

>>14518403
>Working at a desk for long hours, looking down at your phone all day, being tall and having to constantly 'duck' under things and crook your next down to make eye contact with people
You are literally describing me. Fuck. What do?

>> No.14518573

>>14515693
Agree with everything you said except the microwave. Microwaves are great for reheating stuff and thawing food from out of the freezer. I even warm up my frozen peas in it. Fuck sight easier than boiling the little green fuckers in a pot.

>> No.14518593

>>14518504
It's a peptide hormone produced by the stomach, heals a lot of soft tissues in the body. But be a fag and deal with your subhuman health problems instead of spending 75 dollars on a vial and another 25 on needles and bacteriostatic water, be my guest.

>> No.14518769

>>14518593
And now if you order from us, and use the coupon code 4CHIN4U you can get one for 50$. Yes, you read that right. If you are interested, send a DM to me.

>> No.14519028

>>14518593
What's so difficult to understand about
>there is no evidence
?

>> No.14519437

>>14518403
doesn't it make sense down to lie down after a meal, tho? or are you supposed to sit all day and occasionally just walk

>> No.14521024

>>14515668
I have the same problem. Fuck it, I bought some probiotics just now. Will report back

>> No.14521039

>>14515668
Hook up with a chick. While you guys are fucking, slip a finger into her pooper. Discretely slip that brown finger into your own ass. Basically steal her gut flora.

>> No.14521061

>>14515671
>your gut flora is fucked by antibiotics

Fixed it for you.

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>>14515693
this is the final redpill, i can only eat vegetables now or else i poop out blood

>> No.14521961

>>14515668
IBS just means they don't know what the problem is. I was diagnosed with IBS at the end of 2020 but it was actually UC. I ended up being on medical leave for close to 9 months and have been on biologic therapy (entyvio) and had 4 blood transfusions during the first few months of the illness. Now after 18 months I'm about 90% recovered.

>> No.14521968

>>14521961
>entyvio
doctors are shilling this to me, but im going the diet route to clear my UC. how bad are the side effects? my dad thinks that my colon will die if i go on any biologics (immuno suppressants)

>> No.14522124

>>14515668
Fasting does it for me, as well as avoiding certain foods and drinks (dairy, chocolate, coffee, etc.)

>> No.14522127

>>14521024
Probiotics are mostly a scam. You gotta inject the bacteria through the opposite hole.

>> No.14522253

covid has diarrhea as a side effect when the virus infects your gut bacteria. So it could also be a gut infection.
I had it when I had Lyme disease. Three weeks of antibiotics and it was mostly gone.

>> No.14522933

>>14522127
Imagine paying hundreds of dollars to shove poop up your ass without trying out some capsules that cost $20

>> No.14523842

>>14515668
Short answer. Cause: lectin intolerance / plants want to kill you. Cure: carnivore diet. On youtube you can find longer answers. The most qualified person in terms of academic qualifications is Bart Kay, who also happens to make hilarious critiques of nutritionists' advice.

>> No.14523846

>>14522127
You can make fresh yoghurt with a couple of capsules.

>> No.14523945

>>14515668
Eat kefir and sauerkraut. Preferably, make your own.

Probiotic foods are miraculous. I had horrible bowel problems all my life until I started regularly ingesting kefir.

>> No.14523973

Cutting sugar, caffeine, and dairy will fix most IBS. Less desserts helps. Increase fiber. Probiotic might help. That’s mostly all you have to do. Your body will adapt to a new diet.

>> No.14524030

>>14523945
>sauerkraut
yeah? i get nandom craving for fucking sauerkraut out of the blue every 4 months and everytime i indulge into it, i trust my gut. stomach is mint, never a problem.

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>>14519437
I don't understand your question. What does lying down after a meal have to do with craning your neck into award positions all day for work or constantly looking down for obscene periods of time such that it compresses the nerves that pass through your vertebrae?
Also you should probably not sit up straight when eating at all but rather lie on your side like the ancients did

>> No.14524074

>>14515668
If you ever seen videos of colonoscopies with commentary by proctologist, the problem could be like a million things, and diagnosis of what it could be between Crohn's, IBD, and IBS is on a best fit on a spectrum. Obviously endoscopies are definitive, but if it's something like "yea the linings look healthy, no polyps or lesions", it's pretty much up to you. The easiest thing to try first is eating a different variety of greek/probiotic yogurt, and hopefully one of them improves the symptoms (this is definitely safer than chugging prebiotic bacteria packets). Also try to figure out the source of the flair-ups, as it could be anything (e.g. food, extreme anxiety, etc.).

>> No.14524081

>>14521968
If you have moderate to severe UC I'd recommend it. I've been on it since Dec 2020 with no serious side effects, only a little bit of joint pain that is negligible. It took about 6 months for it to start working for me so keep in mind it takes time, but my symptoms are basically gone now and my colon showed significant improvement at the 12 month mark colonoscopy.

>> No.14524107

>>14524081
thank you, glad that you arent having any problems with it. i guess the worst thing i have to worry about is my insurance not jewing me. once you stop taking these drugs, then you cant really get back onto them

>> No.14524890

>>14524107
Yeah, shits expensive, about $7200/dose here in burgerstan. Fortunately my insurance covers the whole cost save for a small co-pay.

>> No.14525095

low-fodmap diet / elimination diet may help.

But also, exercise. Do you exercise? Do you smoke? Do you drink alcohol.

>> No.14525132

>>14515764
plain Fage 5% masterrace

>> No.14525133

>>14515668
Quit eating or drinking anything with aspartame in it for starters.

>> No.14525135

>>14515668
psyllium husk pills + docusate sodium stool softener, breddy good desu

>> No.14525139

>>14525095
This X1000
Exercise helps A LOT. I am still doubling down on what I said about aspartame though. I'm not a doctor, but I can say for certain that it will fuck up your gut.

>> No.14525143

>>14521374
Fruits and veggies are actually the key to good gut health. People who eat burgers all the time are going to suffer with this because it does nothing to feed the friendly bacteria in your gut. You must have fiber. I guess the bread has a little fiber in it, but nothing like fruits do.

>> No.14525148

>>14524074
On that note, is there a such thing as having "too many" good gut bacteria? Just wondering if they can be harmful in high amounts. I get everything in moderation, but some yogurts contain a MASSIVE amount of bacteria. I have heard that IBS can also result from too many friendly bacteria in your gut. True? I have no idea. That's why I am asking.

>> No.14525194

>>14525135
Be careful with that, it may have the opposite effect. I did psyllium seed husk and it actually made me sicker and was one of the things that contributed to my UC getting worse.

>> No.14525350

>>14525194
Yeah I don’t think fiber ever helped me.

>> No.14525355

>>14515845
I’ve had worse constipation when doing any work involving my back. Could that be causing the compressed vagus nerve?

>> No.14525374

I've had bad IBS most of my life. I've been eating like most people all my life, processed stuff, fast foods, soda, candy, and all the rest with regular "healthy" meals also.

Last summer I went for a month eating only eggs, meat, potatoes, dairy and some fresh veggies. I ate nothing that I didn't cook from scratch, no sauces, no seed oils or processed stuff. Also lowered my alcohol intake a bit. It has completely changed my life for the better.

I slip every now and then and eat crap though I feel horrible afterwards so it helps me to stave off cravings.

Also started exercising regularly which likely also helped

tl:dr clean food and exercise fixed my IBS