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14511777 No.14511777 [Reply] [Original]

why are there so few historical examples of a scientist admitting that they were wrong about something? i bet most of the posters here couldn't conjure a single example of this happening without resorting to asking a search engine.

>> No.14511794

>>14511777
>asking a search engine
so what

>> No.14511801

>>14511777
These things are easily provable by anyone willing to take the time.

For example. Here's how to measure the speed of light with chocolate bars and a microwave
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0TJjqxtvS0

Just because you don't understand how something works doesn't mean nobody does.

>> No.14511826

>>OP
Because historians like winners, and will only post winners' stuff.
The only examples I know of, involve specific lessons or humiliations towards a particular man.
Something like general makes a mistake, or the military engineers failed with their calculations. D-Day, the early iterations of tanks, and other military weapons demonstrate what you want. Scientists admitting to be wrong, then fixing mistakes or honing the tool towards a particular task.
Like a generic heavy and light tank, to fighting transports, mobile artillery, new classes of tanks, etc. etc. all came from iterations of failures and refining of the known tools.

>> No.14511827

I can literally open any exam answer sheet and find millions of scientists who were wrong about something and also knew it and that's before we get to the failed ideas involving actual research.
So, yes, scientists are used to being wrong. Narcissist nutjobs? Not so much.

>> No.14511832

>>14511801
>measure
>just use the number on the back of the microwave

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>>14511777
>resorting to asking a search engine
Thats the equivalent to grabbing a tome in the ol' library in Alexandria.

>> No.14511858

>>14511826
losers get their version all the time, nazi generals wrote lots of books where they explain how they were the best, hitler was an idiot and a tiger got 100 t34s

>> No.14511868

>>14511777
In the scientific world, plenty, it's the basis for science. Science in its purest most distilled form is curiosity and curiosity can only be satisfied when one can sleep soundly in the knowledge they have done everything they can to paint as accurate as possible a picture in their research of whatever they are interested in. If it is anything by that it's not science, but dogma and politics. Only by continually doubting yourself and proving yourself wrong can you ever hope to satisfy scientific curiosity.

>> No.14511933

No because if we told the truth then you would realize math doesn't rule everything. Then we basically don't get power anymore.

>> No.14511972

>if you don't know something of the top of your head, then it didn't happen
Well, this is a new level of retardation. Let's called "pseudosolipsism" because OP is a pseud.

>> No.14512016

>>14511777
The only one hard to test is the age of the sun. Saturn? You can check the mass by the orbital speed of its moons. Speed of light? Easy too but theres a controversy that no one has measured the speed of light in a single direction, only in two directions involving some type of reflection.

>> No.14512035

>>14511777
There's no point in discussing falsified theories... Unless they're either good&simple approximations of truer theories (ie: Newtonian gravity), historical steps towards modern theories (ie: alchemy), or good examples of pitfalls to avoid (ie: flat earth).

>> No.14512115

>>14511777
>asking a search engine
>not using a search engine

Digits confirm human subservience levels show they're ready to bow down to the AI overlords

>> No.14512118

>>14511868
>Science in its purest most distilled form is curiosity

The best science is a result of OCD, not curiosity.

>> No.14512133

>>14511858
Those folks did it to earn jobs within the new power structure. Most of their works have been discredited. Only the old guard of the fools who think WW2 is the level of sophistication of current war, still hold those tomes as truthful.

>> No.14512149

>>14511777
>We had no idea
>this came as a shock
>no one was expecting this
>what a surprise!
a typical scientists phrasebook. they are no better than virgins fumbling under their sisters undergarments.

>> No.14512227

kids learn about lemarckian evolution and spontaneous generation and shit in middle school, of course science gets it wrong

or do you mean, why aren't scientists publicly humiliated or something? because you also probably learned about Galileo, Copernicus, and Kepler, all who proposed different and to varying degrees wrong models of the solar system. You also probably learned about the wrong models of the atom proposed by Rutherford, JJ Thomson, and Dalton. This shit is taught in like middle school even in shitty American public schools.

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>>14511777
You have been misinformed comrade, "science" is like government, it is never wrong, it only "changes" and "evolves".

>> No.14512789

>>14511777
Without any search engine, ether theory. Scientists used to believe in an ethereal medium carrying light.

>> No.14513345

>>14512035
>t. 70 iq

>> No.14513732

>>14512789
thats an example of one group of scientists claiming that another group was wrong.
its astounding that there are no good examples for this area of scientific inquiry

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>>14512262