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Astronaut Jebadiah Kerman Edition
Previous: >>14507405

Next launch:
Transporter-5 | Falcon 9 Block 5
May 25, 2022 – 18:27 UTC | 14:27 EDT

>> No.14511645

>>14511641
First for Titanchads.

>> No.14511649
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How did SpaceX get last minute transport by military C-130 for its final Falcon 1 test vehicle?

Seems like an unfair bailout/handout by the government to a private company.

>> No.14511661

>>14511649
I like to think somebody in DoD or whatever having a glimpse of long-term prospects. But I remember there was an half explanation from Elon or whatever about it, in any case we'd be in Constellation II without SEX

>> No.14511672

>>14511649
True. Reusable launch vehicles are of absolutely no interest to the military. The best strategy would really be to let it die and rely on Vulcan.

>> No.14511675

>>14511649
Because the armed forces liked the idea of having more than one launch provider.

>> No.14511677
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TBIRD will fly on Transporter-5

>> No.14511679

Reminder that discord trannies and leftypol are spamming a bunch of boards.

>> No.14511684
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I've got something I need to get off my chest. Last summer, I interned at a space company. It was a dream come true and the best time of my life. This time around though, I wasn't picked to go back and none of the other companies I tried had any interest. The reason is almost certainty that my GPA had a big drop. It wasn't spectacular before, so it's really awful now.

In a few days, I'm going to travel to the non-space related internship I managed to find. I'm very thankful to have it and I'm really looking forward to it, but at the same time I'm really depressed about things. I'm so worried that my chance to work with roggets is gone and I'm now doomed to spend a career engineering cheese slicing harps, dumpsters, and HVAC systems.

>> No.14511689

>>14511684
Do not be afraid, Mars will need HVAC engineers.

>> No.14511708

>>14511684
so what? you’ve got a space related internship on your CV.

Just commit to working harder from this point to get your grades up. You will make it anon.

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>>14511684
>>14511689
>>14511708
>tfw political scientist

>> No.14511718

>>14511649
kwajalein was thrilled that somebody wanted to actually use their base for something, quite the opposite of vandenberg

>> No.14511725
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>>14511645
The decadal proposed a titan orbiter which would also send floating probes to the lakes.

>> No.14511726
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>>14511718
Sad that Astra chose to abandon their plans for Kwajelein.

>> No.14511732

>>14511661
Id like to think they had some guardian angel in the gov who risked his job to give SpaceX a chance

>> No.14511736
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>>14511684
Harriet got her NASA internship after a freshman year GPA of 2.33

>> No.14511738

>>14511736
So that's why it's been delayed so many times.

>> No.14511740

>>14511736
>comparing women to men for STEM career prospects
anon, I...

>> No.14511748

>>14511736
gawk I would like to see her work on THAT

>> No.14511756

>>14511708
Thank you, anon.

>> No.14511758
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14511758

>>14511645
>Titanchads

>> No.14511775
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>>14511609
If they win the DRACO selection Ultra Safe's NTP will fly two years before their NEP.

>> No.14511785
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>>14511758
Stationchads rise up

>> No.14511787

>>14511713
majoring in that as well, government relations, marketing, business development. Lots of opportunities for non engineering majors. Apply for space fellowships if you're still in uni.

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14511791

Ve are going

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>>14511641
FTS Archive
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KCJBL632oieD1r6JOh_5Eg9NTcf_-hH8?usp=sharing

>> No.14511799

>>14511796
SEX

>> No.14511803

I'm an astronomer but I wouldn't want to leave earth
Does this make me a fake spacechad?

>> No.14511805
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>>14511803
>astronomer
>AND an earfer

>> No.14511811
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>>14511803
Don't let the geologists hear you say that

>> No.14511813

>>14511791
What kind of kerbal construction is that.

>> No.14511822
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>>14511641
You guys think hard core science fiction will become vastly mainstream in the coming years?
Starship launch hopefully this summer, moon mission in 3 years, Mars mission possibly in 2026/8, new space stations, etc.

Perfect for a pop culture reset

>> No.14511831

>>14511822
>bait

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>>14511645
Fellow Iogigachads are any of you here?

>> No.14511872

>>14511758
I think we should send a big straw to titan and slurp it up

>> No.14511904

>>14511872
There is a "there will be blood" joke in here about straws and millshakes but i'm too lazy to make a /sfg/ version about it.

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>>14511803
>astronomer

>> No.14511957
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14511957

Hop when?

>> No.14511977

>>14511957
14 moons

>> No.14511982

>>14511957
One fortnite

>> No.14511993

>>14511957
When you stop being a faggot, so never

>> No.14512001

>>14511957
July

>> No.14512003
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>>14511993
what got your panties in a twist anon?

>> No.14512012

>>14512003
What kind of degenerate projection is this?

>> No.14512021
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fuck off troon

>> No.14512038
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I don't get this reusable shark meme

>> No.14512046

>>14511957
>>14512003
cute and scary

>> No.14512048

>>14512038
A shark is a spaceplane

>> No.14512053

>>14511944
thanks I have memorized a new facial expression

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>>14512012
>>14512021
Just relax, embrace it.

>> No.14512064

>>14512038
what the fuck was that

>> No.14512069
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>>14512065

>> No.14512071

>>14512069
Suggestion to go back to nsf.

>> No.14512076

>>14512069
Anon, I...
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1054501056229588992

>> No.14512078

>>14512038
Still a smoother ride than shitliner, at least the parachutes work

>> No.14512079

Mars will be our Hyperborea

>> No.14512088

https://twitter.com/katlinegrey/status/1528749744650178561
>The preliminary design of the #Orlyonok spaceship (the smaller version of #Oryol) will be ready in the 3rd quarter of 2023,promised Dmitry Rogozin (according to TASS).
TWO MORE YEARS

>> No.14512112

>>14512076
Musk doesn't spam everything with anime, read the filename

>> No.14512130

>>14512088
>#ORLYonok

>> No.14512167
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>>14512076
Imagine thinking this makes it relevant to spceflight lol

>> No.14512187

>>14512088
>>14512130
>oily ork spaceship

>> No.14512189

>>14512167
i really really really like this image

>> No.14512209

>>14511803
Yes. Space is an abstract notion for you, not reality. Not somewhere you actually consider humanity's future domain.
For you, the prospect of colonizing space is like a child being told that their first day at school is coming up soon. Children hear about this strange thing called "school" and it it intriguing, conceptually, but as the day and moment grow nearer to leave home, leave safety, they begin to squirm and invent more and more desperate excuses to avoid committing to the inevitable. Like all other earthers, you're a child in mind.

>> No.14512212
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I am so excited for Transporter-5, bros

>> No.14512217

>>14512212
I'm tired

>> No.14512224

>>14512212
>I am so excited for Transporter-5, bros
Is there an interesting payload onboard or something?

>> No.14512240

>>14511803
You are a degenerate earthnoid and will be forcibly removed from the surface

>> No.14512241

I'm excited for
>FAA auth
>lots of FH launches
>more cool Webb pics

>> No.14512259

>>14512224
I worked on one of the birds.

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>>14512112

>> No.14512273

>>14512259
That'll do. Neat!

>> No.14512289

I'm the Anti Anime Poster.

>> No.14512298
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14512298

>>14512289
Thank you for your service

>> No.14512301

>>14512240
>>14511944
>>14511811
>>14511805
>>14512209
Name one thing space offers I can't get with probes

>> No.14512306

>>14512289
There are only two people on /sfg/ - you and me. And I'm everybody that isn't you.

>> No.14512349

>>14512112
>Musk doesn't spam everything with anime
no, just /sfg/

>> No.14512350
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14512350

To The Black (of the bus)
https://nitter.net/Firefly_Space/status/1529100106871582722

>> No.14512354
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>>14512212
I want to see an autistic breakdown of all the payloads

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>>14511641
dont pretend like you arent a little bit interested
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4EOW9oqZ4k

>> No.14512390

>>14512381
>>14511831

>> No.14512393

>>14512381
kill yourself

>> No.14512399

>>14512260
hmm i kind of expected it to link to some cunny with the filename and all
maybe there's still some humanity left in this general?

>> No.14512404

>>14512390
>>14512393
oh come on faggots this is the only /sfg/ show on right now, love it or hate it, there are some interesting things

>> No.14512407

>>14512381
>>14512404
Still not watching the (((television series)))

>> No.14512408

>>14511803
What does an astonomer actually do all day?

>> No.14512417

>>14512408
ASTRONOOOOM

>> No.14512418

>>14512408
Get mad about starlink and Elon Musk, piss on sacred Hawaiian mountains

>> No.14512421

>>14512381
>multiple competing Mars missions arriving together
Neat, can't wait to pirate it

>> No.14512424
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14512424

>we will likely never see Eris, Orcus, and most of all the other scattered disk/TNOs/sednoids in decent resolution within our lifetime
It sucks.

>> No.14512439
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>>14512424
Often with transneptunian objects tend to be very similar due to their distance. Eris is likely to be very similar to Pluto.
The difficulty isn't getting there, it's slowing down once you're there. Hence we'll probably need incredibly efficient and powerful ion engines to get there

>> No.14512441

>>14512424
Not with that attitude you won't.

>> No.14512443

>>14512439
>see in decent resolution
Slowing down is not required for that.

>> No.14512444

>>14512443
But slowing down is far more useful, and you get to map the entire planet from orbit

>> No.14512450

>>14512424
For me, it's Dysnomia. I wanna see that son of a bitch like you wouldn't believe. Maybe once Starship is operational they could send swarms of probes to each of those bodies for an affordable price (and put JPL out of business). Or instead of sending more mass, just bring more fuel to slow down and enter orbit or land. The question is who will pay for that. Even at this price and capability, space agencies all around the world still think in oldspace terms. They'll find a way to waste that capacity. Someone rich, like Maezawa did with his Moon trip, paying for this kind of missions and SpaceX building the probes themselves, and offering that service to everyone, would be cool.

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>>14512443
But it is preferable

>> No.14512464

>>14512450
For me it's Haumea the ringed potato

>> No.14512471
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>>14512424
Couldn't JWST take an image of it? Would definitely be better than the current image

>> No.14512473

>>14512464
Don't forget its cute red spot. Btw, it's fucking time for the IAU to update the number of official dwarf planets in our solar system. It's been sitting at only 5 since forever.

>> No.14512476
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Guess Amazon made another fine addition to its collection

>> No.14512492

>>14512473
I noticed lately that Wikipedia said fuck it and unilaterally declared a few more dwarf planets
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarf_planet

>> No.14512496

>>14512476
hard R, very nice

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I decided to watch tomorrow’s launch from Cherrie Down Park, south of the jetty and the port.

>> No.14512515

>>14512510
ASDS off Miami? Cool
Transporter was the last flight trajectory I recall that did RTLS, and now it's not doing it this time. Are we gonna see any more RTLS?

>> No.14512518
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>>14512492
They seem to have classified it according to this

>> No.14512525

>>14512518
>satellites can't be planets
Biggest bullshit.

>> No.14512527

>>14512515
Transporter 5 tomorrow will be RTLS. The zone near the Bahamas is the designated failing zone in case the booster can’t return. Also for fairings.

>> No.14512534

>>14512525
>the moon is a planet

>> No.14512540

>>14512534
The Earth certainly is. If the Earth were in orbit of a gas giant it would still be a planet.

>> No.14512544

>>14512540
No it would be a moon.

>> No.14512547

>>14512540
If we still had the Moon, then maybe. If we don't, then the Earth would not be a planet, it would be a moon.

>> No.14512550

>>14512544
>>14512547
You might be technically correct, but it's still bullshit and wrong in practicality.

>> No.14512552

>>14512550
What's wrong with having a habitable moon? Size of the moon doesn't really matter, as long as it is a semi-permanent natural satellite

>> No.14512556

>>14512550
You’re a gay faggot.

>> No.14512572

Does anyone have the link to the newest EDA musk interview (part 2)?

>> No.14512575
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>>14512464
>>14512473
>This thing is orbiting above your heads RIGHT NOW

>> No.14512576

>>14512572
if you want to be linked kyrstal porn so much you're better off on grabbing it from e621 yourself

>> No.14512589

>>14512301
what all astronomers deserve: an agonizing death in the vacuum of space

>> No.14512590

>>14512534
Yes. It’s literally bigger than Pluto by like five times

>> No.14512594

>>14512381
kill yourself
threadly reminder to report, hide and filter faggots like this

>> No.14512595

>>14512544
Moons are planets except for the really tiny non-spherical ones

>> No.14512596

>>14512595
They don't orbit the sun as their main gravitational body

>> No.14512599

>>14512596
Don’t care
I say a planet is anything big enough to round itself by gravity but not big enough to perform fusion

>> No.14512601

>>14512599
Then you are wrong, mistaken, gay, and fake

>> No.14512602

>>14512601
>you’re wrong about made-up definitions!
Lmao

>> No.14512605

>>14512602
Your own definition is made up, you've been hoisted by your own petard

>> No.14512607

>>14512605
>Your own definition is made up
Yes, but it’s mine, so I like it the best. Pluto is a planet. Luna is a planet

>> No.14512610

>>14512607
Your mother is a planet

>> No.14512612

>>14512610
She is much too small to round herself via gravity. I actually created by own classification chart and posted it in /sfg/, but it was over two years ago and I deleted it accidentally in my storage

>> No.14512617

>>14512612
she's certainly fat enough to round herself via calories.

>> No.14512618

>>14512612
Nah your mother is round enough I reckon and I hear plenty of cocks orbit her round the pub so I’d call her a planet yeah. Cheers mate you’re doing the Lords work.

>> No.14512619

>>14512617
That's not gravity, now is it?

>> No.14512621

>>14512617
She is desu

>> No.14512626

>>14512619
I don't think you understand the gravity of type 2 diabetes. Planets don't have feet.

>> No.14512629
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slow /sfg/ is pretty funny

>> No.14512665

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubrick_Mons

Bros let’s go here

>> No.14512674

>>14512665
Nah, I'd rather go here instead
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/33434_Scottmanley

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>kerbal edition

>> No.14512690

>>14512301
Geology bros to go drunk roving with

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>>14512399
I don't only post little girls
More to me than that

>> No.14512699

what the fuck

>> No.14512700

>>14512689
Based pregnancy fucker

>> No.14512702

>>14512550
>wrong in practicality.
Fuck off nigger the earth in orbit of jupiter would be a moon kill yourself.

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https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/spacetech/niac/2020_Phase_I_Phase_II/Advanced_Aerocapture_System/

>our expectations are that a magnet placed near the nose of the vehicle will increase the bow shock stand-off distance, substantially decrease stagnation point heat flux, and considerably mitigate the TPS requirements for such missions. Likewise, our preliminary analysis shows that magnets placed on the side of the vehicle nose will produce side forces for increasing lift (and thus L/D).

I wonder if Starship can benefit from this effect, if the calculations are proven correct that is

>> No.14512709

>>14512705
As we mention every time this idea is brought up, the issue is power supply.

>> No.14512714

>>14512693
Yeah you're getting thrown out the airlock on the way to mars

>> No.14512725

>>14512599
The current accepted term for that is planetoid

>> No.14512732

>>14512714
That pic was way spicier than I remember it being

>> No.14512735

>>14512709
Just put some solar panels on it ez pz

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>>14511641
>Russian colors
What did Boeing mean by this?

>> No.14512760

>>14512705
If they can scale kilopower down to 2KW and condense it so that it can fit inside a Starship nosecone and not disrupt the methane in the header tanks, then yes; it could benefit. As that's one potential option.
Interestingly enough, the concept of leveraging magnetic fields is literally how the early concept of "shields" in Star Trek Enterprise (with the NX-01) worked. The hull had emitters along its length, and by using power from the warp core, they could create polarity fields just above the material surface by manipulating magnetic fields--that way when incoming fire hit the hull, some of the energy would be ablated without touching the armor/ship hull material.
In theory, this could work if the Starship's size is extended by say another 3 meters aka a full ring segment, and then instead of the header tank being all the way at the top, its located 3 meters down from the nose, and the upper 3 meter segment is populated by a sterling kilopower reactor; maybe even a full 10KW version. You could then run radiators down the length of the ship windward side for the excess heat bleed off and simultaneously run water channels near there, so that you can have hot water onboard the starship for cooking, showers, medical (disinfection in case of injury), and cleaning clothes.
The only downside of this design is that KiloPower reactors can't scale for dick when it comes to mass production. SpaceX wants to launch upwards of a thousand ships every 2 years during the Mars transfer window. Realistically, they'll probably only get to like 1-500 over the next 10-20 years, but even then, building say 100 KiloPower reactors would be quite difficult; mainly because the nuclear regulatory commission would find a way to fuck that up.

>> No.14512765

>>14512760
>If they can scale kilopower down to 2KW
If it's just during reentry, why wouldn't it use a battery?

>> No.14512767

>>14512705
Reminder that this is glowtech. Reentering nuclear warheads are guided this way.

>> No.14512771

>>14512767
Will be useful for when Mars becomes independent.

>> No.14512785 [DELETED] 

>>14512064
Sharknado 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh3WF7shhlM

>> No.14512787

Elon's doing it again

>> No.14512788

>>14512765
I mean you could, but it would be best to do a KiloPower method, as that is continuous power generation over say a 10 year period. That in turn would benefit the reuse of the Starship. 10KW of energy is quite a bit of energy.

>Kilopower is a small, lightweight fission power system capable of providing up to 10 kilowatts of electrical power - enough to run several average households - continuously for at least 10 years.
Sauce: https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/demonstration-proves-nuclear-fission-system-can-provide-space-exploration-power

I would imagine that the goal of SpaceX is to get arguably up to 100 uses per ship before the version of the vehicle is retired. A battery would be fine, but having a ship generate the power equivalent to several households for a long duration mission is immensely valuable; as that ship then becomes a mobile base out to nearly ANYWHERE in the solar system. You can now plant a ship on the dark side of Mercury, bam mobile base with power to self sustain itself. On either of Mars' moons. Mobile bases. On Ceres in the belt, mobile bases. Out to Europa, Io, Pluto, Charon, Titan, mobile bases. Further, by going the KiloPower root (again if the scalability problem is solved and not impeded by the NRC, and SpaceX were to adopt this design idea), if you then say plant 10 ships on Mars all with this, you could then couple them together into a single grid, generation 100KW of energy for Mars. 100 ships and you get 1MW of energy. 1000 ships say over a 10 year period and you'd get 100MW of energy on Mars, independent of any solar panels and wind based energy generation.

>1MW of solar power generates enough electricity to meet the needs of 164 U.S. homes. 100MW... to power 16,400 U.S. homes
Sauce: https://law.lclark.edu/live/news/28453-100-megawatts-per-day-solar-power-on-the-rise#:~:text=To%20put%20that%20number%20in,to%20power%2016,400%20U.S.%20homes.

100MW on Mars = small city + large scale fuel plant & nascent industry AIO.

>> No.14512791

>>14512787
>Elon's doing it again
Imagine believing this

>> No.14512792

>>14512705
>Discrete Magnets Positioned Circumferentially and Coaxially on the Forebody for Steering and Mitigating Heat Flux.

>>14512709
>>14512760
>power
>fucking nuclear power
>for static magnets

Are you lot retarded or something, nowhere in the article does it say anything about generating magnetic fields this is just large regular magnets affixed to the vehicle

>> No.14512796

>>14512792
Well they would probably use electromagnets for better control, maybe ones that are superconductive with LOX.
However none of this is ever going to happen because its a faggot overcomplication that Elon would hate.

>> No.14512797

>>14512792
>putting static magnets into the nose of a fucking ship that only matter for reentry and nothing else
>wasting that much mass pointlessly
>not using electromagnets instead via nuclear power
>and then gaining all kinds of other useful benefits of that power generation that enhances the functionality of the ship
What a fucking retarded idea you're promoting in relation to the original idea, which conceptually makes sense--but not really here.

>> No.14512798

elon retweeted this
https://twitter.com/Liv_Boeree/status/1529158437585752064
>“Astronomical Waste”, Likely the most important paper ever written: https://www.nickbostrom.com/astronomical/waste.html
Basically
>Every second we delay expanding into space, we lose at least ONE HUNDRED TRILLION potential human lives that could have lived.
>Because every moment that passes, unimaginable amounts of unused but precious energy gets sucked into black holes, and more and more stars and galaxies pass beyond our cosmological horizon each moment and thus will be forever out of reach.
>that 100 trillion number is only a *lower bound* estimate, (it assumes we can only exist through biology)…but if life can exist computationally, then we could be losing around 10^29 life-equivalents per second of delay.

>> No.14512801

>>14512798
>nick bostrom
unbelievably cringe, yes humans must expand into the galaxy, no we don't have to be basedcucks about it

>> No.14512805

>>14512798
This basically confirms there’s bad news in the pipes for musk

>> No.14512807
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>>14512798
>Nick Bostrom

>> No.14512809

>>14512801
>>14512807
why are you faggots like this?
he recognizes the potential of the human endeavor and acknowledges spaceflight is the necessary next step

>> No.14512816

>>14512785
Is there any situation in which atmospheric phenomena could throw something into orbit? Not on Earth, just anywhere.
Obviously volcanoes can spit stuff away from a planet, but what about other things?

>> No.14512818

>>14512797
>wasted mass
It replaces traditional TPS tiles. Delightfully counterintuitive. Best part is no part.

>> No.14512820
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>>14511684
https://boards.greenhouse.io/spacex/jobs/5951460002?gh_jid=5951460002

Get cracking on the... 5+ years of plumbing experience it requires.

>> No.14512821

>>14512785
>This video is not available
hmmm
Also, they used the fucking Space Shuttle kek, never change Hollywood.

>> No.14512828

>>14512798
Oh God. This is dangerously close to arguing that people who could theoretically be born not being born is equivalent to murder.

>> No.14512835

I wonder what Estronaut thinks of his sekrit Elon interview being stolen and reposted here

>> No.14512836

>>14512702
No it’d be a planet

>> No.14512837

>>14512816
Upper atmosphere throws gas into orbit all the time

>> No.14512839

>>14512809
It's just salty /pol/acks.
t. has seen this exact butthurt image posted on /pol/

>> No.14512840

>>14512798
>utilitarianism

>> No.14512841

>>14512450
>send swarms of probes
Solar panels don't work beyond Jupiter. How are you going to power all those probes?

>> No.14512842

>>14512807
>hmm this thing reminds me of this other thing because I know nothing about either of them
>they must be identical

>> No.14512843

>>14512835
post it please?

>> No.14512844

>>14512828
this
>>14512839
no i only post on /sci/ and /ck/ and sometimes /g/
it's just the muh trillion wasted lives is cringe.

>> No.14512846

https://twitter.com/i/events/1529185130119671812
Tiktok starship

>> No.14512851

>>14512846
Is it faster than Concord? If not I don't care.

>> No.14512865

https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1529048906385874944
>Long March 8R landing leg deploy test
hmmmmmm

>> No.14512868

>>14512828
>>14512798
Or the argument that future lives matter just as equally as present lives. You know the reason why you're working is because you want to save money for future you/family/etc right? We are already in effect sacrificing our current lives for better future. Extend that future bit further out and you can argue that regulatory bodies holding back humanities in space are sacrificing the lives of future humans, which is counter intuitive to our current model of reality. Hence the regulatory agencies are anti-human and unethical.

>> No.14512882

>https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1529224801579302912
Dark money behind anti-Musk articles exposed as being funded by Bill Gates. Not just one company but a dozen or so.

>> No.14512884

>>14512798
We should care about this only as theatre for making people care about space. This itself, especially as Bostrom argues it, is outlandishly retarded when allowed to be taken to its logical conclusion(s).
>>14512868
The important part is what happens when you extend it even farther out. That's why we need to keep very good control on it.

>> No.14512891

>>14512882
The man really is done fucking around. I've been waiting to see Musk really take the gloves off and throw his weight around.

>> No.14512892

>>14512868
I don’t care about future humans.

>> No.14512893

>>14512846
>bombardier
They still exist?

>> No.14512895

>>14512884
>The important part is what happens when you extend it even farther out
More importantly, whats the limit to which humanity can extend their ethical questions about the nature of future existence?

Small brains have very short limit to future. This is why criminals often partake in opportunistic actions because they dont consider the future risk. Poor people often spend excess money as they come, the term "hood rich" comes to mind where by the money you earned it spent quickly on showing off your status. The long term investors in companies have a much higher depth of understanding about the nature of future and value it brings. Thus their IQs are higher, they make more money, etc.

>> No.14512898

>>14512891
Crazy how much damage one man who's only /ourguy/ by way of simply not being against us has done to them.
I think the future is going to be quite interesting indeed.

>> No.14512899

>>14512895
Hodling forever doesn't mean you're smart
Getting in early means you're smart

>> No.14512901

>>14512899
Hodling forever is basically Warren Buffett's strategy.

>> No.14512903

>>14512899
Holding is only the right move if you believe the company has a bright future ahead. Otherwise, what you're saying is the company is finished and has no value proposition anymore.

>> No.14512904

>>14512816
Wild guess: a low gravity planet with enough atmosphere to have wind could expel objects into orbit or even out of its gravity well. Perhaps a volcanic planet would be able to generate enough atmosphere for it to work even with the low gravity letting the atmosphere dissipate out into space or burnt of by solar wind. Volcanos could themselves force objects into orbit and beyond but that's stretching the definition of atmospheric phenomena.

>> No.14512908

>>14512816
Probably not. Even Venus can't throw things at 1km/s just with wind.

>> No.14512913

>>14512904
That atmosphere would expel itself into orbit

>> No.14512918

>>14512846
Wonder if it's available in Microsoft Fight Simulator yet.
>>14512893
Doubt the Canadian government would ever let them go under.

>> No.14512927

>>14512913
Until it reached a point of equilibrium where it stopped being so volatile.

>> No.14512946

>>14512038
It was pretty stupid, but then the shark re-entered, and that was cool in spite of how stupid it was.

>> No.14512960

>>14512927
Unless I'm mistaken, average molecular velocity of a gas should always be higher than any wind that could naturally arise in an atmosphere composed of that gas. So regardless of equilibrium, the atmosphere in question would rapidly fuck off into space on any planetary body with a low enough gravity that wind could eject something into orbit.

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>>14512038
You reckon this is possible? Ablative shark heatshield?

>> No.14512998

>>14512976
Depends on the size of the shark and its density I suppose. For science, an entire cow should be placed into LEO and deorbited, with observation from every conceivable angle to answer the question of what happens to a big animal when it falls back to Earth.
>inb4 we already know
No we don't shut up, let this happen I wanna see it

>> No.14513002

>>14512998
We need to conduct multiple tests. I propose 2 cows, 6 chickens, 2 dolphins, some sharks, a basket of frogs, a pair of turtles and at least 3 people

>> No.14513004

>>14513002
I'll back your proposal, but only if we double the size of the program and source the livestock from multiple districts in my state.

>> No.14513008

>>14512998
I wanna reenter inside a huge whale.

>> No.14513009
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14513009

It's finally useful.

>> No.14513012

>>14513009
kek

>> No.14513022

>>14512818
No, you still keep the TPS. Just decrease the thickness of the tile further.

>> No.14513039

>>14512893
My whole life I've heard about Bombardier having financial problems and layoffs but they're still limping along somehow

>> No.14513063

>>14512903
Its about opportunity cost, not just if the company survives or even grows fast

>> No.14513066

>>14513039
They're propped up for defense reasons like Ariane.

>> No.14513068
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14513068

I seriously cannot emphasize enough just how much I hate Earthers

>> No.14513075

>>14512798
>NOOO not the heckin potential humanerinos

That is fucking top tier cringe.

>> No.14513083

>>14513075
inb4 he also supports abortion and contraception

>> No.14513085

>>14512895
Taking risks is badass

>> No.14513088

>>14513063
>Opportunity cost
In other words, you believe there are better opportunities, hence the company is of lesser value

Otherwise, it makes no sense to divest if the company is still has bright future

>> No.14513113

So what's going to go wrong with Fail-liner undocking and reentry?

Thing is already a death trap of failed thrusters and life support. Will it's Machine Spirit commit suicide out of shame and plummet to a firey reentry?

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>>14513008
Are you a bowl of petunias?

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14513139

ussf uniform, high res pics finally out

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14513141

>>14513113
Yo dude, Boeing is going to win. They have connections and lobbying. They dominate aerospace. Meanwhile Tesla was kicked off the S&P and SpaceX is in the middle of a major scandal. Elon's little scam is OVER. He is DEFEATED.

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now all they need is space ships

>> No.14513149

>>14513088
It has to have the brightest future relatively and not just that, the price you buy into the company has to be low enough for your gains to be better relatively

A mediocre company at extremely low prices might very well give you better returns than a superstar company at massive overvaluations
The price you buy in matters

>> No.14513153

>>14513139
It’s fine

>> No.14513154

https://mobile.twitter.com/nextspaceflight/status/1529275877221052416

> SpaceX just fired a Raptor on the horizontal test stand for 365 seconds. That is the longest Raptor test observed at McGregor. Previous record was 360 seconds which was set last week.

>> No.14513163

>>14513154
Yaay roggeds

>> No.14513171

>>14512076
it's over schizobros...

>> No.14513177

its genius

>> No.14513194

>>14513154
>sub 500 sec
yawn

>> No.14513205

>>14512167
>Our tips for unplugging, decompressing, going outside, getting lost, and dying

>> No.14513215

>>14513144
space force is such a joke
It was just an excuse to hire more bureaucrats. The fact that they have their own boot camps is cringe. Imagine all that money that was wasted to create a completely useless branch was funded to starship to point to point for the army or marines.
https://youtu.be/0i1HuUiBcDk

>> No.14513219

>>14513215
Spaceforce is necessary and in fact came later than it should have

>> No.14513220

>>14512076
How do you look at old twitts, most of the time the damn webpage take forever to load past one day. I have to keep reloading the page if I want to see something elon twitted 2 days ago. I would use nitter but that has an even shittier time of loading older twits, older as in a few days.

>> No.14513233

https://www.pcmag.com/news/spacexs-starlink-now-serves-over-400000-subscribers

SpaceX has 400K subscribers now. $44 million dollars per month revenue or $528 million dollars per year.

That number will may reach 600K-800K by end of this year. $88M/m or $1B/y revenue.

>> No.14513234

>>14513215
They probably once said the same thing about an air force anon

>> No.14513250

>>14513233
Launch + satellite cost $60M per month. Do the math

>> No.14513251

Sfg is dying, nothing is happening, etc.

>> No.14513253

>>14513250
The more subscribers they get, the more money they offset. The fact that they're near parity in paying off their network launch + customer base means it will take ~1-2+ years to pay off their launch network after they stop launching this shell.

If Starlink2 launches, their subscriber capacity rate will increase further creating an even faster net zero ROI.

>> No.14513260

>>14513219
it really isn't necessary. The Spaceforce is literally just desk jobs that now get even more money wasted without any added value. At least the chairforce hops in planes once in a while. There is no military reason for there to have soldiers in space, thus eliminating the need for a physical branch/personnel. In all reality the spaceforce is more a branch of the NSA/CIA than it was of the airforce so its pointless in even making it a military branch

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>>14513260
>There is no military reason for there to have soldiers in space
ayy lmao hand equivalents typed this

>> No.14513271

>>14513220
Twitter is shit

>> No.14513273

>>14513234
Navy and Marines have their own "air forces" on carriers and land bases
Army has it's own Aviation branch ( mostly helicopters, but not limited to those)
What is the point of US Airforce besides maintenance of nukes and nuke accessories?

>> No.14513276

>>14513251
Starship about to launch soon

>> No.14513280

>>14512976
The hard part isn't the aerothermals actually, just use a bigger shark
The hard part is the aerodynamics. If you enter a spin it'll kill you

>> No.14513282

>>14513269
Space force does not do what you think it does. If you really want ayylmaos to be killed en masse, we should be sending solar sail seed ships to habitable terrestrial planets.

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14513289

>>14513260
The point wasn't to put "guardians" in space, it was to create a separate branch where Congress could send money for space priorities and not have most of it skimmed off for the Air Force's pet projects. Space is an important theater that needs individual attention by people dedicated to the task who aren't in the chain of command with those with different (Air Force) priorities.
>>14513273
The Air Force doesn't have aircraft exclusively but the Navy also doesn't have boats exclusively. The Air Force does have a lot of aircraft that aren't connected to naval operations and thus are of little interest to the Navy leadership. As far as nukes goes, yes, it's a good thing to have control centralized in one branch. Even the nuclear missiles on Navy submarines are on loan from the Air Force and have to comply with Air Force rules.

>> No.14513301

>>14513289
The air force controls all the nukes and stuff like ICBMs?

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14513323

>>14512038

>> No.14513346

>>14513323
can someone explain the joke to me

>> No.14513351

>>14513323
>so random, haha
thats it

>> No.14513366

>>14513346
>>14513351
S-H-A-R-K-S

>> No.14513372

What happens after the first starship orbital test flight?

>> No.14513387

>>14513289
>navy gets cucked by a branch that's not even a century old

>> No.14513391

>>14513250
That all changes with Starship. Lower absolute cost and more satellites per launch. Plus the second generation Starlink satellites.
They'll be making billions in profit by 2024.
>>14513372
Start launching shit. Assuming there aren't any problems getting to orbit, that is.

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>>14513372
We must spend another 18 months reviewing the effects on the beetles

>> No.14513411

>>14513391
Not much more, Starlink 2 is bigger. I read (here) that it can't even fit inside Falcon 9 fairing.

>> No.14513431

>>14513276
Starship is a JOKE, watch thunderf00t's viseo debunking starship

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENBn-W3uPXQ

It will never work, elon has to put on a stage show of rocket "tests" to keep the bluff going as long as possible so he can continue scamming investors. Not coming at you to be hostile either, I was a spaceX fan and sold all my stock once I figured it out.

>> No.14513437

>>14513431
Wow you’re right, I should sell all my spaceX stock right away! All hail SLS!
(Your post is totally not an Indian or bot trying to short Tesla).

>> No.14513440

>>14513372
>for SpaceX
They will want to get as much data as possible and results will vary.
>successful orbital phase
They'll starting launching Starlinks
>disintegration of ship due to heatshield
Redesign heatshield, refly
>successful hover test for ship/booster
Refly one or two more times for accurate landing simulation before orbital catch tower on oil rig platform or maybe rtls

For space industry, its a new Starship Era. For legacy companies, ITS ALL OGRE. For NASA, this validates their choice and will move forward with high confidence.

For liberals, tears will be shed calling Starships as fakes, Elon Musk as fraud, calls to stop SpaceX, etc.

For general public, it will be a new hot thing.

For the US adversaries, its a wake up call.

>> No.14513445

>>14513437
Cope, SpaceX is going BANKRUPT

>> No.14513448

>>14513440
>For the US adversaries, its a wake up call.
It's not a wakeup call, it's a death knell. They already know they're not in a good position. Starship just solidifies that there's zero hope of them ever changing that.

>> No.14513471

>>14513440
Reminder it took more than one Falcon9 before they started commercial launch.
And as long as the first stage isn't reusable it's doing to be very costly by launch.

It's going to cost a lot more than F9 to build Starship prototype.
...I wish we would scrap Artemis entirely and immediately start building more Starship prototype.

>> No.14513472

>>14513471
Funding has been secured

>> No.14513488

>>14513471
>...I wish we would scrap Artemis entirely and immediately start building more Starship prototype.
what will happen to all the high value jobs all over the states?
seriously
There's no way anyone can justify SLS existence once Starship is flying every other week
will they come up with new grift project or finally bury the remains of Shuttle programe for good?

>> No.14513494

>>14513471
>It's going to cost a lot more than F9 to build Starship prototype.
According to whom?

>> No.14513497

>>14513471
why wouldnt it be reusable?

>> No.14513498

>>14513437
>Wow you’re right, I should sell all my spaceX stock right away!
doesnt matter what you do because of the efficient market hypothesis

>> No.14513500

>>14513494
to common sense.

>> No.14513502

>>14513372
pigs will fly

>> No.14513503

>>14513500
so according to pulling shit out of your ass

>> No.14513507

>>14513498
Nice Bot response on a spaceflight general thread. Let me run some keywords past you:
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Silver
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ETH
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Volatility
Central banking
Communist
Fiat

>> No.14513510

>>14513507
>calls a very relevant post about an obscure subject a botpost
>proceeds to make a very generic post that Ive seen dozens of times before

>> No.14513512

>14513510
Lurk more newfag.

>> No.14513522

>ukraine's defense in the east has collapsed
>russia is now taking huge chunks of territory
if russia wins the war will this renew vigor in their space program? space race 2.0, but the west vs russia AND china?

>> No.14513524

>>14513522
Russia is in decay, annexing ukraine wont probly change that

>> No.14513526

>>14513524
were it not for the sanctions

>> No.14513535

>>14513522
It doesn't matter how keen Russia might be to renew their space program as long as their budget keeps getting embezzled. Also there will never ever be another space race between governments like there was in the 60s ever again. Profits and private companies are the new leaders of the charge

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>>14513472
More like even if investor ran away the US couldn't afford to lose such game changer.

>>14513488
Politic, politic.
The reason Artemis keep going is because of sunk cost fallacy
The reason nothing new was done is because they rejected bad PR, the US could have experimented reusable first stage decades ago but it wouldn't "look good" to have rocket crashing until one stick the landing.
The worst enemy of the US space program is the US governance, a congress made exclusively of lobbyist and gerrymandered biparty...etc

>>14513497
Come on, I obviously meant not reusable YET. It took a while to retrieve F9 and the landing pad/barge were expendable.
Starship is considerably heavier, it require a non-expendable launch/catching tower, many more engines need to be monitored and it have to work flawlessly to avoid exploding the 2nd stage when you are trying to make it reusable.
I still consider it easier than making the 2nd stage reusable & safe.

>> No.14513543

>>14513522
They've been invading countries for centuries and they're still a shithole. It won't change this time.

>> No.14513560

>>14513543
the soviet union was a shithole and they still forced america into a space race

>> No.14513567

>>14513560
You’re justifying a lost cause. If you think that Russians will set up a colony on Mars before the private entity of spacex, that is delusion.

>> No.14513573

>>14511847
>the hell IRL

>> No.14513580

>>14513567
Private entities will be blocked by politics

>> No.14513586

>>14513580
No

>> No.14513587

>>14513567
mars isnt the only space race that can happen

>> No.14513590

>>14513587
Kek, enlighten me.

>> No.14513608

More than 12,000 Starlink user terminals are operating in Ukraine and most of them in critical infrastructure or within the hands of critically needed operations.

>> No.14513619

>>14513608
All thanks to the US government, not elon

>> No.14513621

>>14513590
military, especially when you think about deploying assets deeper and deeper into space to gain a "high ground" advantage. we've already seen concerns about hidden assets beyond geo such as in lunar orbits.

moon. been there, done that right? but that was just to land on the moon. we already see alot of interest in the moon again, so there may end up being new goals to compete over.

>> No.14513623

>>14513619
wrong

>> No.14513632

Imagine where the world would be if SpaceX fucking died. What if Falcon 1 never made it to orbit, because some intern forgot to tighten a bolt or because they forgot one line of code. NASA would be cucked by Starliner and Ukraine would probably have been steamrolled. All because of that one guy doing one little thing. It's such a pivotal moment in history. I can't comprehend it bros.

>> No.14513636

>>14513621
But there is no competition.
There's Starship and then there's not Starship.

>> No.14513643

>>14513632
All of spacex """inventions""" were already done by someone else

>> No.14513644

>>14513636
True. Russians can at most shoot up 150 tons at a time for billions USD, while spacex rapidly shoots massive loads for millions. It’s over.

>> No.14513647

>>14513644
>Russians can at most shoot up 150 tons at a time
Since when?

>> No.14513657

>>14513643
Too little too late

>> No.14513659

>>14513647
Assumption using their most effective super heavy vehicle and adjusting for improved technology. Not factoring in development costs.

>> No.14513685

Today's NASA TV schedule
all times US Eastern
10:35 a.m. – International Space Station Expedition 67 in-flight event for ESA (European Space Agency) for the World Economic Forum Space Session in Davos, Switzerland with ESA astronaut Samantha Cristoforetti (All Channels)
2 p.m. – Coverage of the undocking of the Boeing/NASA Starliner from the International Space Station (Undocking scheduled at 2:36 p.m. EDT) (All Channels)
5:45 p.m. – Coverage of the deorbit and landing of the Boeing/NASA Starliner at the White Sands Space Harbor, N.M. (Deorbit burn scheduled at 6:05 p.m. EDT; Landing at the White Sands Space Harbor, N.M. scheduled at 6:49 p.m. EDT) (All Channels)
9 p.m. – Boeing/NASA Starliner post-landing news conference (All Channels)

>> No.14513691

>>14513659
Their most effective super heavy vehicle that is no longer built?

>> No.14513713
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>>14513488
>There's no way anyone can justify SLS existence once Starship is flying every other week

I literally only drop by this thread anymore to lmfao at the dumbest Muskrat remark of the day.

>> No.14513716

>>14513488
>>14513713
He's right, you know. Starship could be built, flown, and expended in the same manner as SLS with an Orion on top and still cost an order of magnitude less.

>> No.14513740

>>14513713
what will the purpose of SLS be when a fully reusable Starship has high cadence?

>> No.14513749

>>14513740
you ask too many questions

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>>14513740
you're delusional

>> No.14513756

>>14513740
Jobs program, its always been the case for SLS.

>> No.14513778

>>14513215
>USSF is useless
>new tech is finally getting funded because it isn't the USAF's perview

Face it, to the USAF money for roggets and spacecraft was money not spent on missiles and planes.

>> No.14513786

>>14513778
Purview*

>> No.14513787

>>14513540
>The reason Artemis keep going is because of sunk cost fallacy

I've come to terms with the fact that SLS is expensive by design, keeping congress engaged with Artemis via its jobs program.

>> No.14513791 [DELETED] 

>>14513659
Neither Energia (which doesn't wxist anymore) or Yenisei (which doesn't exist yet) could deliver anything close to 150 tons to orbit.

>> No.14513798

>>14513787
>by design
Would imply they actually did work to maximize the spending.
I fear the truth is that they genuinely tried to make it as lazily as possible, reusing everything they could, always choosing the cheapest choice (thereby missing any new cost-saving technology)

>> No.14513805

>>14513798
>I fear the truth is that they genuinely tried to make it as lazily as possible,
Hasn't this been pretty much confirmed? The Obama admin didn't want to keep going with Constellation but needed to sign off on something to make it look like US spaceflight was still progressing somewhere while committing as little as possible. Similar to the Nixon admin and the Shuttle

>> No.14513821

>>14513805
The problem run deep, no POTUS want to be the one who kill the "Moon rocket" (used to be Mars rocket) or be seen destroying space job for a new (unproven) project until they have popular support. And few people know how bad Artemis is unless they had F9, or Starship humiliating every national space agency.
Obama had the good idea of increasing subsidize for private company until one of them made the breakthrough NASA was institutionally incapable of producing anymore.

>> No.14513829

Starship when ?

>> No.14513836
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>starliner undock schedule for a few minutes after Transporter-5 liftoff

>> No.14513837

>>14513829
never, it's a scam

>> No.14513841

>>14513632
>popular opinion tells me Ukraine is very important
>I must frame everything in terms of what other people think is important
>”Imagine the impact on Ukraine if SpaceX failed”
Are you a woman or small child?

>> No.14513844

>>14513260
Spaceforce is an inevitable consequence of Spacemass and Spaceacceleration

>> No.14513847

>>14513836
>need a way to make yourself seem like a unique individual
>get the same shitty tattoos as millions of other retards
>already missing a hand

>> No.14513851

>>14513841
Ukraine is important despite your wishes. Or did you forget about those multiple US rockets that relied on their parts?

>> No.14513852

>>14513215
This anon is a shortsighted pussy, and probably gay.

>> No.14513862

>>14513685
>for the World Economic Forum
Oh cool, the unelected evil Overlords are talking

>> No.14513864

>>14513841
Dude, it's absolutely true. The event in Ukraine would change drastically if SpaceX failed.
The US would be in an pretty bad position if they didn't have a new way to launch manned mission to the ISS without being so reliant on Russian Soyuz.
There's also Starlink providing comm network in the middle of nowhere after all infrastructure broke down.

Ukraine was also providing rockets part and their big Antonov to transport fragile equipment in a big pressurized bay.

>> No.14513865

>>14513829
2 weeks

>> No.14513878

>>14513851
The ones that were already being phased out.

>> No.14513885

>>14513821
Politics suck ass

>> No.14513898

>>14513851
>Ukraine is important
Not to me, I don't launder my money there like politicians. Burn the whole thing down for all I care.

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>>14513346

>> No.14513908

>>14513440
>They'll starting launching Starlinks
>>disintegration of ship due to heatshield
>Redesign heatshield, refly
reminder that they trashed quite a few F9s that they had just used to launch something; if they can get some starlinks up, it doesn't matter so much if they fail the landing

>> No.14513926

>>14513908
Institutional knowledge is something SpaceX has now. Starship flew 10km without trashing. All of them succeeded.

>> No.14513927

>>14513301
Yes.

>> No.14513930

>>14513926
>ESL doesn't understand that "even if" doesn't mean you're expecting it to happen

>> No.14513937

I've got to become American so I can work on this stuff
Canada is useless in space

>> No.14513966

>>14513937
We can probably take you as a refugee, just claim the status leafbro.

>> No.14514002

Some new stuff for jannies
https://youtu.be/r7mmTlPM9Z8

>> No.14514007
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https://twitter.com/thesheetztweetz/status/1529486165048442882
>SpaceX is raking in 40 million dollars each month

>> No.14514015
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>>14513937
A
FUCKING
ARM

>> No.14514022

>>14514007
a girl on twitter debunked this completely

>> No.14514048
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>>14512882
>Bill Gates is funding a veritable NGO army — and it is zeroing in on Elon Musk.

Great, Starship FUD will no doubt be a part of it

>> No.14514057

THE HATCH WON'T CLOSE
THE HATCH WON'T CLOSE
THE HATCH WON'T CLOSE
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.14514059
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>>14514022
t.THE ETERNAL TWOOTER

>> No.14514060

>>14513260
Retard alert, USAF doesn't give a rat's ass about "cislunar space", Space Force does. Thats their domain

https://www.airforcemag.com/article/cislunar-space/

>> No.14514064

>>14512301
Lebensraum

>> No.14514066

>>14514057
it's meant to do that

>> No.14514074

>>14514057
this is why we test

>> No.14514079

>>14514057
?
They closed it yesterday

Starliner undock scehduled 2pm bEST

>> No.14514083
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Documentary of early pre-NASA army rocket development including good ol' von braun on NASA TV.

>> No.14514087

Orion dock to ISS when

>> No.14514090
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>>14513685
>globohomo
>scrapliner

>> No.14514094

>>14514087
Is there any rocket that can lift Orion's fat ass to orbit?

>> No.14514099

>>14514087
When Starliner is retired due to no more Atlas V rockets left

>> No.14514100
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14514100

comfy whataboutit time

>> No.14514106

>>14514094
Super Heavy?

>> No.14514107

>>14514100
cringe regurgitation time

>> No.14514115
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14514115

>Super Heavy launches empty Orion
>docks with ISS
>a few crew on board ISS transfer to Orion
>Orion departs, TLI, into NRHO to dock to Gateway
>Month long Gateway expedition begins

How cool would that be, and only because we get to see close up HD pics of Orion at ISS like this

>> No.14514150

>>14514115
Can Orion get all the way out to the moon without an additional stage?

>> No.14514153

>>14514150
oh probably not, ESM is weak

>> No.14514168

>>14511641
>spaceX being cucked by environment laws on Earth
Just you wait until they actually get to Mars and "we must defense Mars from human plague"

>> No.14514177

>>14514094
F9 Heavy
Vulcan Heavy with 6 SRB

>> No.14514182

>>14514094
Delta IV Heavy already did
Falcon Heavy easily could

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14514186

Virgin plans

>> No.14514188

>>14514186
That Launcher2 setup looks so fucking cool

>> No.14514189

>>14514177
>>14514182
Though only SLS or Starship have the throw to take Orion to the Moon.

F9H can send those Gateway segments to Lunar orbit because it has the stations propulsion section.

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This booster has done like every possible type of mission and landing lmao

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>>14514189
Pic related is why you're wrong.
That little thing kills the whole purpose of the Megumin rocket.

>> No.14514213

>>14514182
>Delta IV Heavy already did
That was a heavily stripped down Orion with no life support systems or service module and very little in common with the actual production model. The only thing that test accomplished was proving the aerodynamic shape and heatshield for Orion can survive re-entry from lunar speeds

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>Bill Gates all about reducing world pop, muh overpopulation
>Elon Musk all about warning about declining birth rates, muh threat to civilization

Holy shit this rivalry is gonna be more intense than fucking Bezos and Musk that's for sure these 2 dudes are vying for polar opposite outcomes for the world its crazy grab the fucking popcorn this is gonna be a real battle of the Billionaires

>> No.14514215
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>>14514115
>Super Heavy launches empty Orion
You mean like don't launch starship, just throw Orion on top of Super Heavy? That's gonna go off the pad REAL fast.

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>>14514215
Yeah, Super Heavy is not tied to Starship, it can serve as a really damn good booster of its own too, thats a real strength of the Starship system, its versatility

Super Heavy Orion lets fucking goooooo

>> No.14514218

>>14514217
It's not that easy in rocketry.

>> No.14514221

>>14514218
It should be.

>> No.14514224

>>14514221
The upper stage was probably too mass-optimized to handle any increase in flight loads over what SLS involves.

>> No.14514227

>>14514206
ULA isn't doing depots, but yes if someone other than SpaceX starts doing orbital refueling (or a nuclear propulsion tug) it opens a lot of options for TLI.

>> No.14514230

>>14514217
Can you imagine the G's they'd hit on ascent?

>> No.14514231
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>>14514217
Alternate method

>> No.14514233

>>14514217
>>14514215
You could just stick Orion on top of an HLS.

>> No.14514234

Man rate Super Heavy

>> No.14514238

>>14514224
>>14514230
Just reduce the amount of engines

>> No.14514240

>>14514189
>to the Moon.
well, that's a different scenario

>> No.14514243

>>14514230
Just add some sand bags

>> No.14514244
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>>14514215
Why not?

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>>14514244
Why stop there? Neptune direct motherfucker

>> No.14514255

>>14512798

>unimaginable amounts of unused but precious energy gets sucked into black holes

Isn't that a good thing? Just get it back with Hawking Radiation. Black holes are just giant batteries that slowly evaporate, much better than stars that burn themselves out.

>> No.14514270

>>14514240
Orion is meant to carry crew beyond LEO, there isn't much point in just going to orbit with it when Dragon and Starliner exist.

>> No.14514271

>>14514254
Moar boosters.
I feel like in orbit fuel transfer is gonna be a bitch

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>>14514271
Proxima Direct

>> No.14514291

>>14514270
pick up crew from gateway or ISS

>> No.14514294

Help what do I watch, Starliner undock or Transporter 5?

>> No.14514301

>>14514294

Starline undock since it will take the entire station down with it.

>> No.14514302

>>14514294
Transporter-5 just got delayed over an hour

>> No.14514303

>>14514291
Gateway is in Lunar orbit and Dragon/Starliner are far better choices for the ISS.

>> No.14514308

>>14514302
oh of course

>> No.14514311
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>>14514270
the question was "to orbit"

>> No.14514332

So they're loading fuel into the rocket but they still haven't fixed the stream start time

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>>14514188

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>>14514337
Mirya....

>> No.14514347

kino sunset

>> No.14514348

>>14514332
music already started

>> No.14514349

musig

>> No.14514350
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>>14514270
>there isn't much point
The point is JERRRRRBS!

>> No.14514356
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new kino just dfropped

>> No.14514359

>>14514302
lies? T-7m

>> No.14514360
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TICE

>> No.14514361
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AAAAAAAAAAAA

6 minutes to both launch and Starliner undock ffs

>> No.14514362

>>14514311
And the response was "These can but why just to orbit with a deep space craft?".

>> No.14514363

>>14514360
pog

>> No.14514365

>>14514359
SpaceX set the stream to start at 2:30 PM central time but then changed it again.

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>>14514356
Well be really cool with people inside

>> No.14514372

>not linking the stream
You bastards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHt3MyimuqU

>> No.14514374
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14514374

Korolev
>born in Zhytomyr, Ukraine
Glushko
>born in Odessa, Ukraine
Chelomey
>born in Siedlce, Poland, grew up in Poltava, Ukraine

really makes you think...

>> No.14514377

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21X5lGlDOfg

Starliner Undock

>> No.14514379

>>14514294
SpaceX in one ear, Starliner in the other.
>Multitrack streaming!

>> No.14514380

>>14514244
Side boosters would not have those gay tips.

>> No.14514381

>>14514374
super retarded image

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>> No.14514383

my bad fellas, I didn't make a launch thread for this one. Nor for the last couple starlinks... It has become too routine I think? Should I bother anymore? It's been like 5 years of F9 launch thread posting now

>> No.14514385

>>14514383
honestly at this point they should just be for crewed flights and starship launches

>> No.14514388
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Multi-happenings

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Couldn't stop laughing at him sat stiff as a board for that minutes long PR shot.

>> No.14514393

>>14514388
soon to be the norm, hopefully

>> No.14514394
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14514394

This is insane, 2 spacecraft doing operations at once

>> No.14514395

Landing zone , lets goo !

>> No.14514396

Long hold of the fairing, weird

>> No.14514398

>>14514374
>I support current thing

>> No.14514400

God, I love boostbacks.

>> No.14514401

>>14514396
Must be because of the First stage exhaust . Some payload might be sensitive

>> No.14514402

RTLS

>> No.14514403

don't forget about nanorack's metal cutting mission occuring 10 minutes after second stage shut down:
https://spaceflightnow.com/2022/05/24/nanoracks-experiment-poised-to-demonstrate-metal-cutting-in-orbit/

>> No.14514404
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Godamn EARTH IS BEAUTIFUL

>> No.14514406

>>14514281
Imagine the sound

>> No.14514408

>>14514383
Unless it's something manned/novel/high profile there isn't really enough to discuss to warrant a separate thread.

>> No.14514412
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nice

>> No.14514413

Kino landing

>> No.14514414

Beautiful landing ! as always

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>>14514337

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Holy shit that was boneriffic.

>> No.14514421

now back to Starliner

>> No.14514423

RTLS sexy!

>> No.14514424
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14514424

they really make it look too easy now
it's kind humiliating for all other space launchers honestly

>> No.14514428

>>14514424
Seven years and nobody has managed to copy them yet. Probably Chinks are the closest, last time they were testing their Ricehopper.

>> No.14514433
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14514433

>115th successful landing
THEY CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!

>> No.14514435

How many people will Starship's first orbital launch bring?
https://youtu.be/A0FZIwabctw

>> No.14514437

>>14514424
Vulcan and SLS will never perform this kinda things . Its cheaper to build a new one every time

Blue origin is super super expensive and they must recover the stage

Chinese will copy everything and in 4-5 years we will see a Falcon 9 copycat (whule SpaceX have Starship)

RocketLab and LauncherOne only option is parachute

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14514439

>>14514433
Love updating this pic after every launch

>> No.14514441

>>14514424
I can't wait for Jeff Who to set his stupid ship on fire when he tries the first New Something landing.

>> No.14514442

>>14514435
Hoping for many
What helped the first FH launch was all the media attention it got before

>> No.14514447

>>14514437
>Vulcan and SLS will never perform this kinda things . Its cheaper to build a new one every time
I refuse to believe this

>> No.14514449

>>14514439
The first landing success was in 2015? Am I reading it wrong or has it already been 7 years? What the fuck?

>> No.14514452

>>14514383
I think launch threads should be made only if they would be popular enough to draw traffic from outside /sfg/, otherwise there isn't much of a point. Starship, Falcon 9 Heavy, maybe certain key Dragon missions, etc.

>> No.14514454

>>14514449
FH was 4 years ago.

>> No.14514455

>>14514435
Lots but probably not as much as the first time they catch the booster/ship with the tower.

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>>14514449

>> No.14514458

>>14514428
I can guarantee the Chinese will have a falcon 9 copy within 5 years

>> No.14514462

>>14514447
Right now of course landing rockets 5km way of your factory its fucking perfect . BUT

To get to this point SpX has invested billions and billions and thousnd of hours of engineering .

Boeing and Contractors arent willing to pay that price

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14514465

NOOOO these payloads could have been launched on a gazillion Astra Rockets, this is like another holocaust to the chosen people of the small launcher industry and I will not stand for it.

>> No.14514468

>>14514465
Who are you talking to?

>> No.14514469

>>14514468
/sfg/

>> No.14514471

>>14514468
to all the people tuned into his Neuralink stream

>> No.14514474

>>14514449
>2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qo78R_yYFA

>> No.14514479

>>14514474
>6 years ago now
wow musk really does over promise and under deliver

>> No.14514486

>>14514442
Well, Starship is already getting a lot of attention from the media and at best we're still a few months away from launch. I think it's safe to say that Boca Chica and South Padre will become very crowded. After all, it will be the launch of the biggest rocket, even total normies will want to see that.

>> No.14514491

>>14514479
ITS kino was not meant for humans, maybe at least one day we will be flying in tin cans.

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>> No.14514498

tfw no tice gf

>> No.14514502

>>14514486
The day Starship launches shit will go crazy

>3-4 million live youtube viewers
>hundreds of thousands of people
>FH expectation x 100
etc

Apollo 4 levels of expectation

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>> No.14514509

>>14514231
I wonder if I could fit this in my butt 0w0

>> No.14514515

>>14514479
funny thing is, during that presentation he quotes the early 2020s as being the time of the initial flights

>> No.14514517

>>14514502
Apollo 4 levels of expectation.
Space Shuttle Columbia levels of grief to ScamX stans when it RUDs.

>> No.14514520

>>14514486
Starship is just a launch, no landing. Booster and Ship will be dumped into ocean. No double booster landing, no crazy Tesla Starman payload.

>> No.14514521

>>14514254
>>14514244
>>14514281
Make it asparagus-staging and you've completed your Kerbal Engineering degrees.
(don't forget the strut)

>> No.14514526

>>14514502
>3-4 million live youtube viewers
Falcon heavy was like 2.3mil viewers.

>> No.14514529

>>14514517
XDDD

>> No.14514532

>>14514458
In 5 years no one will remember you making this claim.

>> No.14514536
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14514536

LV0010 static fire at SLC-46 currently scheduled for Monday the 29th.

>>14514465
Spaceflight Inc. has already bought more flights from us. Nobody here is mad about them flying on SpaceX. Take your gay wojak posting back to /pol/ or Twitter.

>> No.14514539
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14514539

More shit why not

>> No.14514544

>>14514539
Oh neat I didn't realize CAPSTONE was so close, that's a cool mission for Rocketlabs to get.

>> No.14514545

>>14514468
Astra is forgoing reuse under the belief that launch cadence will drive costs down in a world where rideshares exist, the same thing Rocket Lab tried before Beck had to literally eat his hat.

>> No.14514548

>>14512439
When we mine these planets materials will be shipped out on slow moving spacecraft, but at high frequency, so it woukd take years for a shipment to reach you but the supply would be steady

>> No.14514549
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>>14514544
Really interesting discussion happening now about the orbit involved, the challenges of NRHO

So much space right now

>> No.14514557
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14514557

>> No.14514558

>>14514381
>>14514398
are you two retarded?

>> No.14514564

F9 views are back

>> No.14514571
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14514571

Best SpaseX girl

>> No.14514572

>>14514536
>literal paid shill from Astra tells /sfg/ no fun allowed
Would you fuck off already? You don't have to defend Astra against every piece of criticism it receives on 4chan, even when the posts are intended to be satirical. Keep at it and I'll tell your employer about you being a pedophile and leaking information.
>Spaceflight Inc. has already bought more flights from us
Spaceflight Inc. was literally banned from launching with SpaceX on future missions.

>> No.14514574

>>14514558
who?

>> No.14514579
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>>14514572

>> No.14514582

>>14514536
Spaceflight was banned from SpaceX rideshares because their tug kept brapping on other customers sats.

>> No.14514584

Look at em just yeeting outta there

>> No.14514592

SHERPA is OUT

>> No.14514596

>spacex deploying their payloads one after another

>> No.14514603
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14514603

>no signal over russia
cold war problems returning...

>> No.14514605
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14514605

>>14514603
cold war problems demand cold war solutions

>> No.14514609

>spacex beats

>> No.14514610

>>14514100
>Hello WIA 'family'
>gib money pls
Nah imma pass thx

>> No.14514611

>>14514439
Always love the dip in 2019 when they ran out of fucking shit to launch.

>> No.14514613

>>14514486
The Booster and Ship catch streams will be the real shit

>> No.14514614
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14514614

>>14514571

>> No.14514616

>>14514571
i wanna put my face between her boobas and do the motorboat desu

>> No.14514617
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14514617

Ice sculpture

>> No.14514619

>>14514603
needs more starlink

>> No.14514621
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14514621

Kino arctic views

>> No.14514623
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>> No.14514626

>>14514439
That rapid shift to nearly all reused boosters is insane

>> No.14514636

>>14514605
>there was nothing he could do as he looked down at Earth. The nuclear war had started, the silly silver-age SF movie-set next to him became amusingly apropos
>he couldn't keep laughing out as he realized that from someone else perspective it might look like as if he was some kind of dictator launching missiles at Earth.
>and so he played his role one last time, taking a pose with his magnetic shoes firmly attracted to the set.

>> No.14514645

>>14514200
Gwynne thinks they'll get on average of about 25 flights per core stage before they see serious wear and tear on the booster. They have a fleet of about 13-14 F9 cores not related to FH on hand. Which averages out to 325-350 total flights they can keep working through over the next 5 years in all incoming payload missions. They have a ton of breathing room and solid profit margins per launch baked into their fleet. The only reason I can see them raising another $1.75Bn in funding is to prep for some of the FH core booster losses, and also to get Starship Cargo variant through the door to be able to launch Gen2 Starlink satellites which are reportedly capable of 300Gbps in bandwidth, up from 30Gbps, and are also much heavier so the the F9 upmass with them drops by half to like 1/4th current capacity.

>> No.14514653

>>14514636
>Is what he claimed at the United Nations Council on Nuclear War Crimes but the tracking telemetry of the NB9-7700 MIRV warheads launched from his space station paints a different story

>> No.14514699

>>14514605
There is no solution to a cold war, it defeats the point of one. The only way to peacefully and safely break out of a cold war is for one side to eventually crumble or warm up politically

>> No.14514701

>>14514653
>Your honor, for my defense I really was standing on a goddamn movie set at the time, you can even count the fake missiles made of plastic they are still all in their cartoonish launcher.
>I have no idea who gave order to launch nuclear warhead from the station I wasn't on at the time. Check the recording of my spacesuit (see evidence), at no point was I ever in position to give DNA clearance for launch.

>> No.14514708

>>14514701
>*CLACK* The court finds the defendant guilty of mass annihilation, possession and use of nuclear armaments, crimes against humanity, and production of a particularly cliché science fiction B-movie
>Sentenced to death or 12,890 years in prison

>> No.14514709

I am become schizoid, hearer of sounds.

>> No.14514710

>>14514645
>30 Gbps
>53 sats per launch
So currently Each launch is adding 1590 Gbps of bandwidth to the constellation. How is Gen 2 going to change that(absent Starship launches)?
>300 Gbps
>10 sats per launch (1600kg*10 = 16000kg payload)
Ok, so that increases the bandwidth to 3000 Gbps per launch, still about doubling it.

>> No.14514715

>>14514709
schizo*

>> No.14514718

>European Space Agency (ESA) astronaut Matthias Maurer, 52, said that while in orbit, he could see rocket impacts in Kyiv and clouds of smoke above the cities that had been bombarded.
>"At the beginning of the war, the whole country went dark at night."
>"People actually only recognized Kyiv," he said. "Then you could also see the impacts in the first days of the war. In Kyiv, you could see lightning at night" as well as the "rockets that hit."
>He said that the war "was clearly visible to the naked eye from space" and that at times, "events were clearly recognizable" such as when he could see "huge clouds of smoke over cities like Mariupol."
https://www.newsweek.com/germany-maurer-iss-ukraine-war-visible-space-1709968

when are we getting free live feed of the whole earth from space?

>> No.14514720

>>14514709
Schizoids are just loners
Schizophrenics are hearing voices

>> No.14514724

>>14514718
ISS already has a stream.
https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/iss_ustream.html

>> No.14514727

>>14514718
Starlink couldn't have any cams, the lenses would shine too much light and would break the agreement that SpaceX has with telescope light pollution.
Likely some geostationary telescope system would be useful, would drastically increase response time with natural disasters.

>> No.14514735
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>>14514724
It sucks, can't wait for the Gateway live stream, seeing Earth from so far going through its phases, and perilune approach every week for a nice close up of the moon, that is gonna be kino overload, it better be 2K at least too.

>> No.14514738

>>14514735
It will likely be 720p if it's a NASA stream, since having a high quality stream camera doesn't really have an scientific value, and they probably don't feel like replacing a 2k-4k camera if it goes dead due to more delicate components.
If we get a 4k cam in lunar orbit it'll probably be from a commercial company

>> No.14514742

>>14514738
pls god not 720p at least 1080p... that's what some of the cams they put up on the ISS now are I think, while others are absolute potato cams, I hope Gateway won't have any potato cams at least

>> No.14514753

>>14511822
I heard something a short time ago about The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. Any more info?

>> No.14514757

>>14514738
>the camera
Retard. Comms is the limiting factor.

>> No.14514762

>>14514757
Not anymore, current upload even from the Moon can be bumped to ~100 Mb/s with one or more satellites

>> No.14514776

>>14514718
When NROL upgrades to global millimeter scanners and hands over control of their existing cameras to NASA

>> No.14514779
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14514779

>>14514727
>geostationary telescope
LEO constellations of smaller but much cheaper imagery sats is the better option, such as the ones being built by Maxar, Planet Labs, and BlackSky. Those three companies just won a multibillion dollar contract from the National Reconnaissance Office.

https://spacenews.com/blacksky-maxar-planet-win-10-year-nro-contracts-for-satellite-imagery/

>> No.14514799

>>14514762
>implying nasa would use starlink
heh

>> No.14514802

>>14514493
>>14514497
>>14514507
>See ya, bitches!
>2025

>> No.14514816

>>14514727
Couldn't you just put a baffle around the lens so that no stray light hits it? You might get some reflections off the earth during the day but I can't imagine daytime astronomy is particularly important.

>> No.14514822
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14514822

>>14514776
I've heard that atmospheric distortion sets a hard resolution limit not far beyond the current civilian imagery satellites(pic related) but maybe that's what the NRO wants me to think.

>> No.14514824

>>14514822
Didn't Trump brag that they could read license plates from satellite

>> No.14514831

>>14514824
In fact, he disclosed it. Big flex or dumb accident, the answer depends on the individual

>> No.14514834

So what is the earliest hypothetical orbit attempt? Assuming the they get approval

>> No.14514835
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14514835

>>14514824
Maybe but what he posted wasn't impressive, as much as it made people seethe about disclosing US spy capabilities, and a telescope capable of doing something like that would have to be far larger than their current xbox-huge spy sats.

>> No.14514840

>>14514834
nextspaceflight guesses July

>> No.14514843
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14514843

>>14514834
July is optimistic
September more realistic

>> No.14514846

Wait, Starliner is landing in a desert?

>> No.14514853
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>>14514835
Here is a diagram of the satellite which took that image.

>> No.14514858

>>14514853
A Hubble?

>> No.14514862

>>14514846
directly on Jeff

>> No.14514863

>>14514846
Yes. Boing airbags good, Spacex super dracos bad.

>> No.14514866
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14514866

>want to work for NASA
>it’s now a woke diversity fest that doesn’t even seem focused on the space mission; everything is about “putting the first woman and person of color on the moon”
>doesn’t seem much better with private space companies

Anyone know this feel?

>> No.14514867

>>14514822
The diameter of the telescope mirror sets a hard limit.

>> No.14514870

>>14514846
Better than dunking in corrosive saltwater. It's the one thing Starliner does better than Dragon. Though I'm sure had SpaceX known they wouldn't be allowed to propulsively land sooner they would have configured Dragon to do the same thing rather than the last minute change to splashdown

>> No.14514874

>>14514863
ironic, considering SpaceX originally wanted to do powered landings on land, but NASA thought it would be too risky

>> No.14514877
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14514877

>they turned back on the failed thrusters

>> No.14514882

>>14514866
>it’s now a woke diversity fest that doesn’t even seem focused on the space mission; everything is about “putting the first woman and person of color on the moon”
that's just dumb pr NASA spins to try and make itself look more important to the dumb masses who don't appreciate spaceflight for spaceflights sake. they've been doing shit like that since the 60s

>> No.14514883
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>> No.14514888
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14514888

>>14514858
Some say it can read licence plate numbers from five hundred miles and that NSF uses it for tankwatching. All we know is it’s not the Hubble, but it is the Hubble's Glowing Cousin.

>> No.14514891

>>14514882
>t. has never seen a NASA engineers twitter account

>> No.14514895

>>14514863
Airbags have been done before, powered landing of humans hasn't, unless you count blue origins fart landing.

>> No.14514901

>>14514891
twitter is pr retard

>> No.14514907

>>14514891
every organization in the world has employees with twitter accounts of a similar caliber. it doesn't mean jack shit other than an overwhelming number of twitter users are retards

>> No.14514909

>>14514858
A larger diameter mirror wouldn't address atmospheric turbulence.
>The angular resolution is diminished due to the atmospheric turbulence. For a 4 m telescope, atmospheric distortion degrades the spatial resolution by more than one order of magnitude compared to the diffraction limit, and the intensity at the center of the star image is lowered by a factor of 100 or more. Even at the best astronomical sites, ground-based telescopes observing at visible wavelengths cannot, because of atmospheric turbulence alone, achieve an angular resolution better than telescopes of about 20 cm diameter.

>> No.14514911

>>14514891
SpaceX has a tranny.

>> No.14514913

Whats the over/under on Starliner pancaking in the desert?

>> No.14514917

>>14514909
Sorry, that reply was meant for >>14514867

>> No.14514918

>>14514911
Yes and he's not a frothing at the mounth libtard that cannot stop talking about affirmative action and current thing.
In fact, Spacex has pretty much none of those.

>> No.14514924

>>14514858
You are now aware Hubble is a spysat telescope modified to look up instead of down.

>> No.14514926

>>14514909
Do adaptive optics fix that issue? I know that ELT that's currently in construction uses that method.

>> No.14514931

>>14514834
24th of July

>> No.14514932
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14514932

>java
OOF

>> No.14514934

>>14514932
Well that explains everything

>> No.14514936

>>14514931
Substantiate your claims

>> No.14514939

>>14514926
yes however oldspace hasn't figured out how to adaptive optics on spysats yet.
>inb4 it's IMPOOOOOOOSIBLEEE

>> No.14514942

>>14514932
GOOD MORNING SIRS!

>> No.14514943
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14514943

>FIRE EVERYTHING

>> No.14514950

>>14514942
Kek

>> No.14514955

>>14514932
As a non computer guy, what do SpaceX use? I heard everything runs on Linux

>> No.14514957

>>14514932
Literally nothing wrong with Java.
Would you rather they use Python like urban eurofags?

>> No.14514958

Gloves are off.
Boeing is back in the game.

>> No.14514961

>>14514955
HTML
>>14514957
I can smell your curry from here

>> No.14514962

>>14514957
Yes.

>>14514955
Important things like flight software are C++. Most shiny UIs are JavaScript, including the Dragon docking touchscreen UI.

>> No.14514964

>>14514961
>I can smell your curry from here
I'm a wop from NY.
I mainly stick to ASM/C, for the record.

>>14514962
>Yes.
Gross! It's like a child's toy.

>> No.14514966

>>14514955
Matlab

>> No.14514968
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14514968

shieeeeeet

>> No.14514971

>>14514966
GNU Octave*

>> No.14514972

WSMR is a rattlesnake infested hellhole. Had to go down there for a test and almost got bit twice. All the building doors have signs reminding you to ensure they completely close so the snakes don't get in.

>> No.14514974

>should have used starlink

>> No.14514981
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14514981

Is Jeb on board? Is he safe?

>> No.14514985
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14514985

I have more confidence this POS is blowing up with every tweet they make

>> No.14515000

I HATE STARLINER I HATE STARLINER I HATE STARLINER I HATE STARLINER I HATE STARLINER

>> No.14515005

I haven't been here for a while. Are we still laughing at oldspace?
> 6 MONTH TURNAROUND

>> No.14515007

>no dual zone climate control
What is this, the 1950s?

>> No.14515009

How will this general cope once Starliner reenters and lands safely?

>> No.14515010

>>14515009
Forget /sfg/'s cope, how will NASA cope their losses on this POS?

>> No.14515013
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>>14515009
It would be extremely painful. I was promised a major malfunction, and got nothing

>> No.14515015

starliner dropping 30km each minute shit getting spicy

>> No.14515020

>>14515009
it already did that once, newfag

>> No.14515022

Reentry begun

>> No.14515023

>>14514866
>>doesn’t seem much better with private space companies
> Work in defence industry
> Jobs consist of figuring out the most efficient way to exterminate as many of the enemy as efficiently as possible
> 'We are committed to creating an inclusive workplace environment and minimising our impact on the environment'
OK then

>> No.14515031

>>14515023
Killing people does reduce the impact on the environment.

>> No.14515038

>>14515031
>Killing people does reduce the impact on the environment.
I'd argue that depends on the weapon

>> No.14515040

>broken green track on graphs
> not updating any more
face it, it is just debris now

>> No.14515046
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>>14515040
By Jupiter, I wish it were true

>> No.14515049

visual contact with el horrendo

>> No.14515050

This mission will be successful and there's nothing you can do about it.

>> No.14515054

NONONONONO
YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BURN IN REENTRY
THIS ISNT HOW IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE

>> No.14515056

drogues out, it's over

>> No.14515058

There's still a chance for it to smash into the desert floor! Or catch fire when it lands! Or for it to land on train tracks and get slammed by a locomotive!

>> No.14515059
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>>14515040

>> No.14515060
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14515060

Haha the boeing stream has no moderation

>> No.14515061
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14515061

it's over

>> No.14515062

>>14515058
it's not that easy in programmatic failure

>> No.14515063

>>14515060
Gotta be honest, that's pretty based.

>> No.14515065

Boing wins the space race

>> No.14515068

SpaceXchuds...
its over
Boing! won the 21st century space race

>> No.14515069

We did it

>> No.14515070

>>14512828
>>14512868
nick bostrom is pro-life confirmed, must be very happy about roe v wade being thrown out

>> No.14515073

Touchdown
sfg in suicide watch right now

>> No.14515076

>>14515068
>>14515065
Only 2 years late

>> No.14515075
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14515075

>>14515065

>> No.14515077
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14515077

AAAAAAA IT ACTUALLY WORKED!
WE GOT TOO COCKY RUD BROS

>> No.14515080

touchdown
hater bitches BTFO

>> No.14515082

>"beautiful touchdown"
GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

>> No.14515085

Welcome to the club, Boing ;)

>> No.14515087

>>14514217
you're retarded

>> No.14515086
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14515086

lies, post the real images

>> No.14515090

>Elon still silent on Twitter

>> No.14515092

>>14515090
busy playing Elden Ring

>> No.14515093

>>14514383
transporter missions are interesting

>> No.14515095
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>> No.14515096
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14515096

Yeah I still wouldn't ever ride that thing tbqhwyf

>> No.14515099

>>14514383
I don't really know what's the point of launch threads when we have /sfg/.

>> No.14515101

>>14514843
that's what you said last year

>> No.14515102

>>14515095
Idk getting blurry Bigfoot vibes from these pics

>> No.14515103

>>14515096
nice cope

>> No.14515104

>The first crewed launch is scheduled for Q4 2022.
They are releasing Challenger 2 this year, neat.

>> No.14515106

>>14515101
So? This time we'll have the environmental review finished.

>> No.14515108

>>14515104
>inb4 that one has all the problems this one didn't
I hope not, I don't want to see astronaut rain.

>> No.14515110
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14515110

>>14515096
Here is a choice for /sfg/:
>stay on earf forever like the average hairless ape
OR
>get to visit the ISS for a week, but you must ride shitliner, no crewed demo flights allowed either

>> No.14515112

>>14515110
I don't have much to live for, therefore I choose death by Starliner

>> No.14515121

Show us Jeb, Boeing. I want to know that he's safe.

>> No.14515126

>>14515112
I'd rather go with the shark.

>> No.14515127
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14515127

>>14515103
The cope is that Sex instead fulfills its destiny and can get me off this rock at affordable prices, sometime between now and when I expire

>> No.14515136

>>14515126
I bet the shark doesn't suffer thruster failures

>> No.14515160

Bros I just realized water can’t catch on fire because, chemically, it’s already burnt.

>> No.14515163
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14515163

>>14515160
waht

>> No.14515167

>>14515160
I think it's just because it's wet anon.

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14515168

>>14515163
>Water is formed as a result of the combustion of hydrogen. In simple words, water is what you get when you burn hydrogen. So, water doesn't burn because, in a way, it has already burned.

>> No.14515170

>>14515076
Yet still somehow crushed SpaceX. How does it feel?

>> No.14515171
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>>14515168

>> No.14515173

>>14515170
Feels like Crew 4 is at ISS.

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>hydrazine leak detected
embarrassing.

>> No.14515184

>>14515173
Feels like you're coping big time

>> No.14515195

>>14515184
There's no getting around the fact that Dragon is going to have a 30 astronaut lead by the time CFT happens.

>> No.14515199

>>14515184
Where's Boeing's first crew?

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https://twitter.com/launcher/status/1529468901519609857
lol astra

>> No.14515206

>>14515167
I've burned plenty of shit that's wet

>> No.14515211

They're not going to show the interior, are they? I just want to see Jeb again.

>> No.14515220

>>14515199
Probably sometime in November, or maybe December depending on how exact the whole 'six month review' is.

>> No.14515226

>>14515176
nice kerbal beta they have there, looks like it has an EZ LAND button, but the maths are fucked

>> No.14515229

>>14515220
it also depends on having an open docking port, spacex now uses up two docking ports since they had to fill in for boing's flights

>> No.14515230

>>14515176
this is the type of stuff you should cancel programs for

>> No.14515234

>>14515176
What's wrong with some orange-flavored puffs? They must feel refreshing in the middle of the desert.

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>>14515205
where's arca?

>> No.14515241

>>14513273
Strategic air offensives

>> No.14515243

>>14515239
Off the charts.

>> No.14515247

>>14515229
Crew-5 is launching in October, so that's one port taken for the duration. CRS-26 is also launching in October but cargo dragons only stay docked for about a month so that port is free sometime in November. November is six months out from right now, which lines up with the review period Boeing wanted to have. The only other dragon flight on the manifest is Polaris 2 and that's not going to the station. So, CFT is probably late November or maybe early December.

>> No.14515250

>>14515247
Just three years after OFT-1

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>>14515176
>sniffers detected hydrazine

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Starlink at Starliner landing site

>> No.14515257

>>14514007
Going from 250k in March to 400k in late May is very good.

>> No.14515263

>>14515254
lmao

>> No.14515264

>>14514439
How many launches per week are they doing now?

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Update: The liquified remains of Rosie and Jeb are being vacuumed out of Starliner

>> No.14515270

>>14515254
Today, I will remind them
https://www.space.com/boeing-satellite-constellation-fcc-approval
>Nov 4, 2021: Boeing gets FCC approval for 147-satellite constellation. They have until 2027 to begin building the new broadband constellation.
>The FCC also rejected Boeing's proposal to delay its launch plans beyond typical standards of 50% completion by 2027 and full launch 2030. The commission said Boeing did not provide adequate justification as to why it plans to launch the full system in 12 years, which would require a waiver of the typical FCC requirement. But the FCC said it is open to more discussion on that point in future applications.

>> No.14515276

>>14515270
And before that...
https://spacenews.com/boeing-proposes-big-satellite-constellations-in-v-and-c-bands/
>Jun 23, 2016: Boeing proposes a constellation of between 1,396 and 2,956 V-band satellites in 35-74 orbital planes at 1,200 km in altitude.

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We got contact and a beacon from the satellite that I am working on that just launched on Transporter-5. I am so happy that I have made a little thing to space, bros.

>> No.14515280

>>14514834
Earliest late July. Likely late august

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>>14515278
Good job anon, well done. It's up there right now, floating weightless in freefall. Pretty fuckin' neato.

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The real Space Race has just begun. Watch out, ScamX chuds.

>> No.14515300

>>14515292
Cast iron rockets when

>> No.14515314

Now that Starliner appears to be functional, is there any realistic prospect of Boeing actually monetizing it beyond the planned ISS missions? Maybe orbital tourist flights for cryptocurrency billionaires or something like that?

>> No.14515323

>>14515278
Congrats.
>>14515292
If you're gonna start arcaposting, then you might as well post something more recent. The EcoKettle is MIA. Last Facebook update was in October lmao, that pic I think is from February, and this month they filled their Twitter page with "Historical Archives". Doesn't look good, arcasisters...

>> No.14515332

>>14515060
>No “SLS is real” pasta
Shame

>> No.14515337

>>14515267
I see. Will Jeb be available for launch? the mission to Minmus is launching in forty seconds and we need his expertise to pilot this rocket chair to every single biome

>> No.14515344

Bezoschads, we are going back...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n8cJ_RyRWY

>> No.14515347

>>14515337
If you have crew respawn on

>> No.14515350

>>14515344
>Live in 5 days

>> No.14515354

>>14515314
No. All the remaining Atlas V boosters are needed for the contracted NASA crew flights. If they wanted to do more, they'd need to crew rate Vulcan and they've shown less than zero interest in doing that. Even if they did Starliner still costs twice what a crew dragon flight would, so they've got about as much chance of wooing commercial customers as Soyuz.

>> No.14515356

>>14515350
SpaceX and Boeing can just dream about having an spaceship like New Shepard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7UOGZumCp8

>> No.14515360

>>14515354
>they'd need to crew rate Vulcan
They may in the future for Dreamchaser.

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>>14515314
>2022
>I am forgotten

>> No.14515369

>>14515360
If crew Dreamchaser ever actually happens. The cargo verson's limped along for years on self-funding, but I don't know if SNC is ever going to have the cash to finish the crew version on their own. Designing a crewed spacecraft still seems to be something you need government development funds to complete.

Boeing seems content to write off commercial spaceflight as irrelevant like it's still 2010, but they'll probably shell out to crew rate Vulcan after Starliner-6 because they see the reasonable chance of a profit with Starliner-7 through 10.

>>14515361
Good.

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CRS




100!

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>>14515229
Do you actually *need* an open docking port?

Let's say, hypothetically, couldn't the Starliner get close, decompress, have the crew suit up, and do a quick EVA to enter the ISS through a side airlock while the Dragons stay parked?

>> No.14515390

>>14515385
NASA would never allow it

>> No.14515395

The nasa optics for tracking the starliner landing are fucking perfecto. The parachute deploy gave me a stiffy.

>> No.14515398

>>14515385
What do you do with Starliner, tie it up like a horse? Does ISS have hitching posts?

>> No.14515402

>>14515398
Does it have a little handle or something that Canadarm can grab?

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>>14515278
thanks for clogging space with more trash

>> No.14515416

>>14515402
It must, right? Canadarm is supposed to be able to grab shit and manhandle it around from port to port. Does Dragon?

>> No.14515419

>>14515416
Dragon 2 and Starliner were both designed to dock, not berth, so the grabable bit probably wasn't included. You could pull that off with Dreamchaser if you wanted to.

>> No.14515424

>>14515314
>Now that Starliner appears to be functional
Now that Starliner has barely eked through a demo mission intact, with multiple large system failures, you mean?

>> No.14515433

>>14515385
"quick EVA" lol

>> No.14515435

>>14515413
all of the transporter stuff is in VLEO, it'll come down in a few years if not months
what altitude did transporter go to this time?

>> No.14515443

>>14514932
Boeing's software engineering was made up of underpaid Indian programmers. So that would make sense.

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>>14515413
Tell your gubberment rep to fund a program to send space trashmen to clean it up and 90% of this thread will volunteer to do it for next to nothing.

>> No.14515448

>>14515205
>ISP ranking
Meaningless data

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xd
lmao

>> No.14515464

>>14515433
Look, they already have helmets and suits, right? Just have Starliner stop like 20 feet away from the ISS and they can jump it.

Maybe bring some cans of compressed air if they need a little backup RCS.

>> No.14515471

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3178939/china-military-needs-defence-against-potential-starlink-threat

PLA military wing wants the capability to destroy Starlink satellites via jamming/hacking as well as physical destruction of entire starlink system via missiles/others.

>> No.14515482

>>14515457
I believe the Chinese lander had a cover sheet on top of their solar panels which could be rotated entirely via some sort of rotating belt mechanism. This allowed them to clean the panels without dangers of potential permanantly damaging them.

>> No.14515491

page 10, staging...
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>>14515489
>>14515489
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>> No.14515564

>>14515160
Nobody told ClF3 that.

>> No.14515607

>>14515160
>Bros I just realized water can’t catch on fire
The alkali metals, magnesium, fluorine gas and chlorine trifluoride say hello

>> No.14515624

>>14515564
it's been oxygen burnt, that's flourine burnt
>>14515607
the alkali metals and magnesium are actually unburning the water in order to burn themselves with the oxygen content and release the hydrogen

>> No.14515626

>>14515444
>clock in
>strap yourself into your crowded budget shuttle with your fellow space wagies
>ship rattles and groans loudly during a grueling launch that it has clearly undertaken far too many times
>finally reach debris field, go EVA
>get decapitated by a piece of a ussr satellite orbiting the planet at thousands of miles per hour