/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.14506843]

This is not a number. It is an operator that relates lengths but is infinite and never ends and if you treat it like a constant you are a brainlet. Moreover, if you think 22/7 is equal to pi you are a stupid brainlet and if you celebrate 'pi' day you deserve to be punched in the face

[Anonymous No.14506845]

>>14506843
So it's a number

[Anonymous No.14506855]

>define equivalence classes using Cauchy sequences
>define addition and multiplication by extending their rational counterparts
>show this structure is a field
>I can't comprehend limits, so it's invalid
kill all finitists

[Anonymous No.14506856]

You are probably confusing number with quantity, it's okay, it's a brainlet mistake.

[Anonymous No.14506860]

>>14506843
3.14 is all thats needed for general calculations. my father would say 3.14159 but you dont have to go that far in

[Anonymous No.14506889]

>>14506843
it is a number that represents the ratio between a diameter of a circle to its circumference.

[Anonymous No.14506912]

Fools. Circles do not exist in the first place. You have never seen a circle in your life, nor can you imagine one, as it requires an infinite mind. You only have the illusion of a circle.

[Anonymous No.14506928]

>>14506912
Nominalist cope

[Anonymous No.14506942]

>>14506843
>This is not a number. It is an operator
It's an expression.

>>14506845
And yet I see no quantity.

>>14506856
>You are probably confusing number with quantity,
Pi is neither and what you said has no relevance.

>>14506889
>number
No
>ratio
No, "irrational". Which is also why it's not a number.

>>14506912
They exist but can't be described using math.

[Anonymous No.14507076]

>>14506942
what is a ratio but the division between two numbers.

[Anonymous No.14507197]

>>14506843
If it's not a number then how come you can always stick it exactly, like a perfect dart, between any two numbers on the number line

[Anonymous No.14507429]

>>14506843
>but is infinite
wow inf<4

[Anonymous No.14507457]

>>14507076
>what is a ratio but the division between two numbers.
It's the number of times one value is contained in the other and because that "number of times" is "undefined" it's neither "number" nor fulfills the requirements of a "ratio" (for how can it since the "number of times" is not "of number"?) It's "undefined", to then recognize this as a number would be to violate/contradict the purpose of math. Pedantic but true, that's why we use a symbol to EXPRESS what it represents and leave it up to whoever to assume/estimate whatever "value" that is (engineer jokes go here). Or when writing a "quantity" we put a little symbols that signify we're trying our hardest to use math but really you're not gonna get there with math.

[Anonymous No.14507462]

3 < π
3.1 < π
3.14 < π
3.141 < π
3.1415 < π
3.14159 < π
3.141592 < π
3.1415926 < π
3.14159265 < π
this continues endlessly
π < π

[Anonymous No.14507471]

>>14507462
>4 > π
>3.2 > π
>3.15 > π
>3.142 > π
>3.1416 > π
>3.14160 > π
>3.141593 > π
>3.1415927 > π
>3.14159266 > π
check this out, also π > π

[Anonymous No.14507493]

>>14507462
>π – ε > π
fckn brilliant

[Anonymous No.14507497]

>>14507462
>π – ε < π
fckn brilliant

[Anonymous No.14507504]

>>14507462
nigga discovered derivatives

[Anonymous No.14507892]

>>14506843
It's 4

[Anonymous No.14507929]

>>14507892

[Anonymous No.14507948]

>>14506843
what is the arity of said operator?

[Anonymous No.14508235]

>>14506843
Do the numbers change? Will I get a different answer if I multiply it by the same numbers? Can I not extrapolate data with that number because it's random and changing?

It's a number. That's like saying 3/10 isn't a number.

[Anonymous No.14508517]

>>14508235
>Will I get a different answer if I multiply it by the same numbers?
That's the problem, you can't multiply it with other numbers. That's why it's not a number. If you disagree, prove me wrong by multiplying e*pi.

[Anonymous No.14508933]

>>14506843
>This is not a number.
Correct. It is a letter. What is your point, retard?

[Anonymous No.14508944]

>>14506843
i celebrate pi minute at 3:36 am march 14th

[Anonymous No.14509780]

>>14506843
>it's another schizo thread where OP dies on a retarded hill

[Anonymous No.14509783]

>>14506843
You can measure it out

[Anonymous No.14509789]

>>14506843
keyed

[Anonymous No.14510427]

>>14507457
>>what is a ratio
>It's a «wall of text»
Lrn2division fgt pls

[Anonymous No.14510459]

>>14506843
>treat it like a constant
Gnostic oversocialized consensus-craving bugman detected.
Pi is neither a number nor an operator. Pi is useful in certain situations, and not useful in others. There is no need to make any statements about its "essential" nature. Such are are the mark of trying to arrive at knowledge via social means, rather than via manipulation of symbols and rule systems without any preconception.

[Anonymous No.14511436]

>>14506843
Shit up you useless count. Being accurate to the 10th dp is only useful for measuring your microchode

[Anonymous No.14511665]

>>14507457
You are retarded, also 1/3 is not 0.3333..

[Anonymous No.14511683]

>>14511665

[Anonymous No.14511729]

>>14511665
>You are retarded,
>also 1/3 is not 0.3333..
I'm just re-posting so I can keep laughing in case you delete it


>>14510427
>Lrn2division
And you can't divide "not a quantity", retard.

[Anonymous No.14511762]

>>14509783
If you drink a lot of coffee, you have a pea brain and will get dementia.
Please control yourself.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/1028415X.2021.1945858

[Anonymous No.14511860]

>>14511729
Prove to me that 1/3 = 0.3333.. I'll wait

[Anonymous No.14511984]

What does it operate upon and what is its output? In other words, what's the domain and range of this said operator?

[Anonymous No.14512275]

>>14506855
how do you check whether two real numbers are equal?

[Anonymous No.14512307]

>>14511860
>Prove to me
It's "undefined", I can't prove it using math.

>that 1/3 = 0.3333.. I'll wait
...I'll wait for you to finish writing out the 3's so I can know what I'm trying to solve here.

[Anonymous No.14512315]

>>14512307
>It's "undefined"
So 1/3 doesn't equal to 0.3333..., thank you for agreeing with me brainlet

[Anonymous No.14512319]

>>14512315
>So 1/3 doesn't equal to 0.3333
I don't know because like I said you'll have to finish writing out those quantities so that I may know what I'm trying to figure out here.


>thank you for agreeing
Over what? I'm still waiting for the question.

[Anonymous No.14512326]

>>14512319
You don't even have enough braincells to remember what you yourself posted?
Scroll up dumbass nigga

[Anonymous No.14512337]

>>14512319
massive L to that anon my dude

[Anonymous No.14512344]

>>14512326
>You don't even have enough braincells to remember what you yourself posted?
Scroll up dumbass nigga
>Or when writing a "quantity" we put a little symbols that signify we're trying our hardest to use math but really you're not gonna get there with math.

So would the "..." be one of those symbols> Or are you going to post the actual quantity and finish the question you're asking so that I may answer it? Because how am I supposed to answer when I don't have enough info?

[Anonymous No.14512386]

>>14512344
The quantity is 0.3333, go to any calculator right now, divide 1 with 3 and you get this very wrong answer
>finish the question you're asking
I asked you to prove that 1/3 = 0.3333, since you clearly posted a very disagreeing response to the notion that this is false, but all you could muster in an hour is an entire paragraph of retarded rambling and avoiding the question because you know fuck all about mathematics

[Anonymous No.14512410]

>>14512386
>The quantity is 0.3333
So why did you use the "...". Are you sure that is the quantity you want to use now?

>go to any calculator right now, divide 1 with 3 and you get this very wrong answer
Interesting. It too gives me the "...", signifying that it cannot even determine the answer. So who are you to say that it is "the wrong answer"? It doesn't even give me the entire answer in the first place.

>I asked you to prove that 1/3 = 0.3333,
No you asked me to prove "1/3=0.333...", there's a difference. Even so, you still have asked me to once again to equate an undefined to a number, which I cannot do (for I cannot determine what 1/3 actually is quantitatively).

>you clearly posted a very disagreeing response
Disagree? No, I am kindly asking you to please finish the question.

>avoiding the question
The only one avoiding the question is you. You're avoiding finishing asking the question you want answered. So please tell me what this "..." represents, or please give me an actual quantity to apply math to.

>because you know fuck all about mathematics
You're the only one asking me to equate two undefineds using math when I'm trying to explain to you that both are simply expressions that don't represent an actual quantity.

[Anonymous No.14512423]

>>14512410
TL;DR, you're still schizo rambling about undefined numbers, which aren't a thing btw, instead of just answering the question

[Anonymous No.14512448]

>>14506843
Lets get straight to the point. Pi is an abomination before GOD. As all righteous people know, there is no such thing as infinity. As pi is claimed to to possess an infinite number of digits after the decimal place that makes it a WORK OF THE DEVIL.
Therefore all mention of pi must be banned and all references to it in textbooks expunged with HOLY FIRE!
However we of the ONE TRUE FINITE FAITH are not entirely oblivious to the engineering aspects which concerns circles and curvy things. To that end we have invented a GOD SANCTIONED expression which fulfills the requirements. We call it the HOLY PIE
Holy Pie is set to be EXACTLY equal to 3.14 and THAT IS IT! Not a decimal more. Because that is GOOD ENOUGH!
Now sure a few spacecraft might miss their mark, some jet airliners crash, and bridges collapse, but that is the price we must pay for living according GOD'S LAWS! Besides those who might die in such disasters will certainly go to Heaven whereas the GOD CURSED INFINITY LOVING SODOMITES are certainly DAMNED to finite torment within the discrete flames of HELL.
Amen.

[Anonymous No.14512456]

>>14512423
undefinable numbers are a thing. All real numbers can be defined by dedekind cuts, unless you include the uncountable numbers that can’t. Cantor relies on these undefinable, useless numbers for his diagonal proof. It’s never even be proven that all possible decimal sequences must be real numbers to satisfy the real number axioms

[Anonymous No.14512542]

>>14512423
>undefined numbers
If they are "undefined", then they aren't a number. It's "undefined", so who knows what it actually is.
There's no such thing as an "undefined number", a number is a defined quantity. It is "defined as a number". If a number is "undefined"....how was it "defined as a number" in the first place?

>which aren't a thing btw
Numbers or undefined? Both aren't "real" in that they aren't physically something. They're descriptions.

>instead of just answering the question
Again, you'll have to finish the question.

[Anonymous No.14513241]

>>14508517
it's just e*π.
this still has all the properties of a number, it doesn't matter that it doesn't have its own symbol

[Anonymous No.14513291]

>>14506843
>treat it like a constant
I mean it doesn't change, so yeah

[Anonymous No.14513294]

>>14506855
Why would I need to comprehend limits for that?

[Anonymous No.14514375]

>>14506843
quran
6:28 they will return to what is forbidden
62:8 to your lord is the return and he will inform you what you used to do

return is pronounced as "radiun" in arabic in verse 62:8 of the quran.

Double pi is tau or 6.28 a full circular- re-education.

The only verse with 628 in numeral total is this verse:
96:8 and to your lord is the return
The last word numeral, also in the heavenly guided arabic words of the quran is 314

digits for half tau.

[Anonymous No.14514464]

>>14506843
It is a constant you mongoloid

[Anonymous No.14515662]

Take no notice of this schizo infidel >>14514375

The answer is clear. Salvation from irrational numbers and set theory can be found through the ONE TRUE FINITE FAITH.
We will reclaim the HOLY LAND of mathematics for GOD. And retake Constantinople along the way.
DEUS VULT!
Amen.

[Anonymous No.14515989]

>>14506843
>It is an operator
Lrn2operator fgt pls