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Why does it feel like most STEM professionals who go into the private sector are fairly smart and capable, but most modern STEM full-time researchers are bumbling retards who chronically overstate the importance of their work?

>> No.14505779

>>14505776
>most modern STEM full-time researchers are bumbling retards who chronically overstate the importance of their work?
cause thats what they have to do to get funded

>> No.14505784

>>14505779
This. No one gets excited by “more research is needed”. People are more likely to pay for what they think will be breakthroughs.

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>>14505776
>post graduate student
LMAO
imagine that you're in your 30s and you're still going to school every day like a small child. all the other children grew up and moved on to their adult lives long since, but you're still going to school.

>> No.14507772

>>14505908
mental gymnastics of brainlets trying to “evolve” intelligent.

>> No.14507799

>>14505776
Because competent people know they will have better money, better equipment and better peers in the private sector.

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>>14505776
>post graduate student
LMAO
imagine that you're in your 30s and you're still going to school every day like a small child. all the other children grew up and moved on to their adult lives long since, but you're still going to school.

>> No.14511262

>post graduate student
LMAO
imagine that you're in your 30s and you're still going to school every day like a small child. all the other children grew up and moved on to their adult lives long since, but you're still going to school.

>> No.14512885

>>14511262

imagine that but an undergrad and it's me

>> No.14513496

>>14511262
That's only in the US. In Europe, you're done with your PhD by 26 or 27 and in some cases 25.

>> No.14515509

>>14511262
The vast majority of Nobel winners are postgraduates. Very few have just a bachelor's or equivalent degree

>> No.14516959

>>14515509
you're desperately seeking affection from "humanity" or "the whole world" or something big like that because your mother never truly loved you. if you win the prize it'll be the same unsatisfying thing all over again, nobody cares who wins those prizes, not even you, you can't name last year's winners without referring to a search engine.

>> No.14518007

>>14516959
I'm not a postgraduate myself, I was just making a point about scientific achievement. The Nobel winners have actually made a meaningful contribution to humanity by advancing science- if they ended up in private sector R&D work they wouldn't even be known at all.

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>>14505776

>> No.14520786

>>14505776
Research is a complete nothing career unless you go to the top 10% of universities where they actually have the funding and equipment to conduct interesting tasks. Most tertiary-level research is complete dogshit and provides no real benefits for its researchers or donors.

>> No.14520899

>>14507772
>>14505784
>>14505776
>>14505777
>>14507777
>>14577777
Yeah I agree academia is shit. Only 1% academics actually do shit. Others publish noise. They should be murdered with a hammer. Break their skull. Why not, bro?

>> No.14520901

>>14520786
what stopped you from going to a top 10 uni like I did?

>> No.14521424
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14521424

Most people who go into academia couldn't cut it in the industry. Unless you actually believe "Noble pursuit" bullshit, the reason they prefer academia is it's easier

>> No.14521443

>>14521424
academia also provides the pleasure of wasting other people's money, so they get to larp as if they're the equivalent of someone that was independently successful.

>> No.14521687

>>14521443
In the privat sector you can only waste Budget once per company.

>> No.14521719

>>14521424
standard moronic dipshit take
people stay in academia because you actually get to do some interesting research with relative autonomy, instead of optimizing the same stupid product for the 76th time

>> No.14521782

>>14505776
Idiots are everywhere. Consider yourself lucky if you do not have to walk through and review the "research" some of my collegues are doing at a big tech company.

>> No.14522285

>>14521719
You're talking about QC jobs. If you're doing those you wouldn't have cut it in the industry OR academia

>> No.14522318

>>14511262
>thinks like a child.

LMFAOROFLXDXDXDLOLOLOLOLWTFFFFOMMGGGGGGG

>> No.14522321

>>14505776
>but most modern STEM full-time researchers are bumbling retards who chronically overstate the importance of their work?
If they didn't think their work was "important" they wouldn't be willing to take the pay-cut of not working in the private sector.

>> No.14522323

>>14515509
You will never have a nobel prize. Your work is meaningless and you will never be recognized for it.

>> No.14522377

>>14515509
Who gives a shit? People have had to return Nobel prizes for saying offensive things. It's an irl blue checkmark

>> No.14522625

>>14511262
...do a*mericans not get paid for their doctorate work or something?

>> No.14522632

>>14522625
doctoral students get a small research stipend, no more than $25k per year, rather like a teenager who works a part time job while going to high school

>> No.14522648

>>14522625
American grad students get paid about as much as European professionals working in private industry, which is to say, they get paid but only very little!

>> No.14522897

>>14515509
Nobel prize is a joke no one gives a shit besides third worlders, science-soys and women

>> No.14523002

>>14515509
Jews make up 25% of all nobel prize winners, its not a prize that is given out on the basis of merit. No jew has ever done anything that merited that prize, publicity stunts and other means of manipulation are what earn the prize, not merit. If it were awarded based on merit then no jew could have ever won, no jew has ever done anything in the sciences which contributed in any way, jews only serve jewish interests.

>> No.14523895

>>14513496
>tfw. I'll be done with my bachelor at 27 and master at 29 (if I even decide to do it).