/sfg/ - Space Flight General

[Anonymous No.14503242]

WE GOING

prev thread: >>14498251

[Anonymous No.14503249]

Musk is gonna run for president in 2024

[Anonymous No.14503257]

Quick recap on Starliner launch

>2 thrusters failed initially
>1 shutdown early
>next day, 2 more thrusters failed
>following those 4 main thrusters, they had to rely upon the side thrusters
>life support cooling system wasn't running nominally
>Starliner NDS for docking failed and had to be reset

What else did I miss?

[Anonymous No.14503278]

>>14503249
retard is tanking all the stuff he is involved in with his stupid meme tweets

[Anonymous No.14503319]

>>14503257
>Boing won the space race

[Anonymous No.14503321]

>>14503278
1. He's not
2. It's his shit, he can do whatever he whishes with it

[Anonymous No.14503330]

>>14503249
lmao, if he does he's going to split the anti-D vote and America will enjoy 4 years of kween Harris. Enjoy all space getting cancelled.

[Anonymous No.14503339]

>>14503249
>>14503330

[Anonymous No.14503344]

>>14503249
there's literally 2 rules about who can run for president

[Anonymous No.14503352]

>>14503257
we are going

[Anonymous No.14503371]

Terran upper stage is done testing and ready to be shipped to the Cape

[Anonymous No.14503380]

nobody can stop american space power

[Anonymous No.14503399]

>>14503380
I'm sure boing can find a way

[Anonymous No.14503400]

>>14503249
His sons maybe.

[Anonymous No.14503405]

>>14503330
reminder that clinton was winning handily in the polls even after perot bitched out and quit the campaign for a few months in the summer

[Anonymous No.14503407]

>>14503249
he can run for texas governor and probably win. but politics is a waste of time in this case.

[Anonymous No.14503419]

>>14503249
President of Mars in 2034

[Anonymous No.14503433]

>>14503380
It looks cool. Hope the rest of the mission goes well and it lands safe.

[Anonymous No.14503448]

>>14503380
2022 lads

[Anonymous No.14503457]

>>14503380
Heres crew dragon in comparison

[Anonymous No.14503479]

Starliner hatch opening in 5 min

https://youtu.be/21X5lGlDOfg

[Anonymous No.14503485]

>>14503479
>inb4 it's full of wasps

[Anonymous No.14503487]

>>14503479
THERE IS A MOMENT-

[Anonymous No.14503491]

Samantha takes the BEST pics holy fuck

[Anonymous No.14503493]

>>14503491
WTF I love Boeing now

[Anonymous No.14503498]

[Anonymous No.14503503]

[Anonymous No.14503507]

[Anonymous No.14503508]

>>14503487
https://youtu.be/2o9KfyPqQzY

[Anonymous No.14503511]

>>14503479
I'm waiting for another series of fuck ups.

[Anonymous No.14503513]

[Anonymous No.14503519]

>>14503513
Kerbal spotted

[Anonymous No.14503518]

>>14503513
Jeb spotted

[Anonymous No.14503522]

>>14503513
H U L L O

[Anonymous No.14503532]

>>14503513
Has a Kerbal plush flown in space before? I don't recall seeing one before.

[Anonymous No.14503537]

>>14503532
Nope

[Anonymous No.14503538]

>>14503479

[Anonymous No.14503552]

>>14503537
All Boing shitposting aside, that's pretty cool. I appreciate the plush.

[Anonymous No.14503553]

[Anonymous No.14503565]

>>14503553
Snake

[Anonymous No.14503572]

we need more docking ports

[Anonymous No.14503574]

>significant leak
Did I hear that right?

[Anonymous No.14503576]

>Significant leak

[Anonymous No.14503580]

>atleast 280 ml of potable water
Drinking water leak?

[Anonymous No.14503581]

>wake up
>immediately go check out how boing's mission is doing
>SIGNIFICANT LEAK
The ride never ends with Boing!

[Anonymous No.14503593]

>>14503572
NASA was in talks with Roscosmos to be able to dock their spacecraft at the node module Russia inexplicably launched recently

[Anonymous No.14503598]

Starliner internal camera got fucked

[Anonymous No.14503599]

goggles

[Anonymous No.14503602]

>>14503552
Why haven't they done this before?

[Anonymous No.14503608]

>>14503598
Terrible artifacts on the camera

[Anonymous No.14503612]

>>14503608
As expected of Boing

[Anonymous No.14503614]

>the flat earth jenkem huffers spamming the chat section
>can't force these inbreds to realize they're literally doing what the jews want

[Anonymous No.14503616]

>>14503513
Heckin Boing brought a KSP plush toy, so wholesome, must have been chungus Tory's idea, we did it reddit, #TeamSpace

[Anonymous No.14503618]

>>14503602
Dunno, seems like a no-brainer for a zero-g indicator.
>>14503614
Unironic flat-earthers don't exist, every one of them is bullshitting and trying to get others to argue because they find it funny. It's just trolling.
>inb4 "no there's real ones out the-"
No. Not one. Zero. Nobody believes that shit. When somebody pretends to, strike them for their insolence.

[Anonymous No.14503619]

>>14503344
rules get broken
pic related was tweeted by obama's half brother the very first day he wasn't president anymore

[Anonymous No.14503621]

https://mobile.twitter.com/DrPhiltill/status/1528039273773015040

> Well there it is. Our patent on a lunar water extraction method has been published. This was the concept we developed in a NASA NIAC grant. We showed that it deeply reduces capital cost at startup and is scalable, removing the barrier against investors.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20210404338A1/en

[Anonymous No.14503623]

>>14503614
This is why NASA TV turns chat off, what channel are you watching

[Anonymous No.14503626]

>>14503621
>china one second later
>"mine"

[Anonymous No.14503631]

LEL SO KERBELL XDD

[Anonymous No.14503632]

>/kspg/ returns

[Anonymous No.14503633]

[Anonymous No.14503638]

this thing is so goofy looking

[Anonymous No.14503643]

brb uninstalling ksp

[Anonymous No.14503659]

>astro butt up in the camera is fine if its a male

oh ok I see NASA

[Anonymous No.14503661]

>>14503638
Did they really need Rosie at all for this?

[Anonymous No.14503671]

>>14503661
They need to test the flight suit and life support systems with various sensors during the full flight

[Anonymous No.14503681]

>>14503643
Based. Come to the other side anon, let's play some SimpleRockets2.

[Anonymous No.14503692]

How will OFT-2 end

[Anonymous No.14503697]

>>14503602
because nasa is fuckin retarded

[Anonymous No.14503701]

"BESPOKED TAILOR-MADE 3D PROONTED ASS INSERTS"
I wonder how much that shit costs, just put a fucking regular cushion on the seat and be done with it. They only have to be comfortable for a grand total of like 15 minutes during the flight, the rest of the time you're not really sitting.

[Anonymous No.14503702]

>>14503616
>t. seething spacex stan
>IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON A MUSKSHIP IT'S NOT FAIR
Mmmm your tears taste so good! :)

[Anonymous No.14503708]

[Anonymous No.14503710]

>>14503708

[Anonymous No.14503711]

>>14503708
>>14503710

[Anonymous No.14503712]

>>14503710
if only you knew how bad things really are

[Anonymous No.14503716]

>>14503710
looks like Tupac's head bandana + mouth cover for Corona

[Anonymous No.14503720]

>>14503716
idc as long as she is safe, healthy, happy

[Anonymous No.14503721]

[Anonymous No.14503732]

What happened to the significant leak?

[Anonymous No.14503734]

>>14503257
What. Really?
How did it even make it to the ISS?

>>14503319
Pic related I guess

[Anonymous No.14503738]

>>14503732
Think that was an unrelated issue elsewhere on the station.

[Anonymous No.14503745]

When starliner touches down, will the ceo of boeing be standing there shooting champagne all over everybody?

[Anonymous No.14503747]

>>14503734
Starliner has something like 20 orbital maneuvering thrusters and 30 RCS thrusters. It's got spares

[Anonymous No.14503756]

Obligatory shill https://youtu.be/Pja4dhg1rJU

[Anonymous No.14503757]

>>14503732
One of the astronauts slurped up the few droplets of leaked potable water, problem solved.

[Anonymous No.14503764]

>Jebediah Kerbal

[Anonymous No.14503775]

>>14503249
He's not US born, he literally can't you fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.14503778]

>>14503257
That NASA will still declare this as a mission success and pay Boing the rest of their milestone payments because the capsule ultimately did dock with the ISS, even though its a flying death trap and putting astronauts on it into space is an unmitigated disaster waiting to happen.

[Anonymous No.14503780]

>>14503775
All it takes is a pdf of a scan where the text is on a layer you can move around. And getting the whole establishment to lie for you, I suppose.

[Anonymous No.14503787]

>>14503572
That's what Prichal was meant for

[Anonymous No.14503802]

>>14503572
It's not that easy, we'd need 10 years of development and 10 billion dollars to launch a Rockomax HubMax Multi-Point Connector

[Anonymous No.14503820]

>>14503764

[Anonymous No.14503822]

>tfw a boeing just docked near you

[Anonymous No.14503830]

>>14503787
prichal is for science modules to dock to

[Anonymous No.14503833]

>>14503710
>/sfg/ is dead

[Anonymous No.14503840]

>>14503830
>science modules

[Anonymous No.14503848]

>>14503840
You know, goo, materials bay, etc

[Anonymous No.14503850]

>>14503840
he means sortie cans

[Anonymous No.14503857]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ZachWeiner/status/1528068260884791296

[Anonymous No.14503891]

>>14503319
>Boing won the space race

[Anonymous No.14503898]

>>14503857
For all his comics about the pitfalls of human behavior, Zach really doesn't recognize the novelty and fragility of the society he exists in, and how quickly it can decay. He's an optimist LARPing as a pessimist.
The guy can be really levelheaded and well-reasoned a lot of the time, but also sometimes just a big fag.

[Anonymous No.14503900]

>>14503608
Boing: we're as reliable as VLC!

[Anonymous No.14503901]

>>14503319
At the EARLIEST date Starliner could carry astronauts, Dragon will be on Crew-5. I love dramatic irony in real life.

[Anonymous No.14503910]

>>14503319
How many Atlas Vs can be made anyway? It's not like they can get any new RD-180s

[Anonymous No.14503913]

>>14503910
All remaining Atlas V are spoken for in upcoming launches.

[Anonymous No.14503917]

>>14503257
I wonder if it's actually Ballast's call at the end of the day on whether to demand another OFT.
If so, he's got a legitimately difficult choice between a) technically having a redundant crew vehicle behind Dragon, even if the backup is obviously much more dangerous, and b) not putting up with Boeing's bullshit, and taking a hardline stance on quality of service and astronaut safety at the cost of redundant capability.
He'll catch heat for either choice, and both have further potential pitfalls that may or may not come to pass. Starliner could kill astronauts, but Dragon operating alone could leave the US without crew capability if there's an issue that has it grounded for review. I'd love to be behind those closed doors where this is being deliberated.

[Anonymous No.14503920]

>>14503775
Explain obama.

[Anonymous No.14503922]

>>14503917
Space is hard

[Anonymous No.14503928]

>>14503913
So what is the plan for Starliner after there are no more Atlases? Hope that you can get more engines somehow?
Or is it just a way for the Boing! C-suite to boost their ego by launching a Limited Edition (tm) (c) (r) capsule

[Anonymous No.14503933]

>>14503928
Starliner is allegedly compatible with Vulcan... but between Dream Chaser, government payloads, and Kuiper, Vulcan has like a five year backlog even after it starts launching. Realistically after Atlas V is retired, Shartliner will never fly again.

[Anonymous No.14503936]

>>14503257
Imagine driving along when
>front wheel brakes fail
>back wheel brakes also fail
>but it's totally fine guys we still technically have a handbrake haha
The absolute fucking state of Boing

[Anonymous No.14503940]

>>14503898
yeah what if spacex had failed a fourth time and not got funding? people would still think space is just too difficult to do cheaply, funding to NASA would probably continue to be decreased relative to the total budget and at some point we could be in the "interstellar" situation that space is abandoned altogether, seen as an extremely overexpensive folly that doesn't achieve much
also, civilizations rise and fall, western civilization seems to be on the way to falling side of things, who knows when the next opportunity comes?
people have some weird idea that science and tech just advances by itself someohw, but no, people actually have to do it and it might not advance for numerous reasons

[Anonymous No.14503942]

Traveling down to Florida soon anons. I think I've decided to watch Wednesday's Falcon 9 + RTLS launch from Cocoa Beach. Playalinda or Titusville would be better for the launch itself but RTLS is my jam.

[Anonymous No.14503945]

>>14503942
Look how easy it is to deliver fully assembled Starships and Super Heavies from port by barge to LC-39A...

[Anonymous No.14503950]

*pomf*

[Anonymous No.14503952]

>>14503942
If you zoom in southeast of Pad 36 you see SLC-46 where Astra launches from. LV0010 is on the way there now.

[Anonymous No.14503955]

>>14503950
shoettle

[Anonymous No.14503960]

fuck nasa for choosing shitliner instead of dreamchaser

[Anonymous No.14503964]

>>14503940
The space domain is too important for any serious military, so even if the west went to shit in your hypothetical scenario, the chinese would eventually do stuff in space.

[Anonymous No.14503998]

>>14503242
I wanna know… since space companies are being independent who else is joining the space?

[Anonymous No.14503999]

>>14503998
ESL-kun pls

[Anonymous No.14504006]

>>14503920
He was born in hawaii or maybe the press is lying who knows

[Anonymous No.14504021]

>>14504006
I actually believe that obama probably wasnt born on US soil, but i also believe it doesn't really matter.

[Anonymous No.14504060]

>>14503257

[Anonymous No.14504116]

https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/engineers-investigating-nasas-voyager-1-telemetry-data
Voyager 1 is pointing at Earth and communicating, but the onboard software is insisting it isn’t

[Anonymous No.14504119]

>>14503257

[Anonymous No.14504141]

G G G G baby baby baby

[Anonymous No.14504145]

>>14503513
Don't let your memes be dreams.

[Anonymous No.14504147]

>>14503857
Why does anyone need to "make an argument for settlement"?
I dont need a fucking reason other than I want to

[Anonymous No.14504150]

>>14504141

[Anonymous No.14504155]

>>14504116
aliens

[Anonymous No.14504170]

>>14503491
Doesn't look as bad in orbit, but still kinda orky.

[Anonymous No.14504179]

https://twitter.com/robert_zubrin/status/1527988545930940418
>Regarding Elongate- people must understand this is a hit job, pure and simple. Musk made in mistake in going for Twitter- it’s a waste of his time that has made him a target for mud slingers. But be clear- the only issue here is whether there is going to be a spacefaring future.

[Anonymous No.14504180]

>>14503491
I wanna see Orion from this view, they should give all spacecraft this kind of treatment

[Anonymous No.14504188]

>>14504170
It looks like "the future of space travel" circa 2005.

[Anonymous No.14504198]

>>14504179
In response to risk of not getting to Mars bc of civilization falling due to wokism
https://twitter.com/robert_zubrin/status/1528027570377084929
>@elonmusk is right about that. But taking over Twitter won’t do much against Wokism. He would do much better to take over Netflix and flood the world with pro human movies and TV series celebrating the pioneer spirit. Culture is upstream of politics.

[Anonymous No.14504202]

>>14503278
tanking how?
jewish funny money numbers don't really mean much
only physical structures and products matter, and they aren't turning into dust no matter how hard he shitposts

[Anonymous No.14504204]

Mars is not for weak men.

[Anonymous No.14504210]

>>14504204
He sounds angry.

[Anonymous No.14504214]

>>14504204
there will be blood...shed

[Anonymous No.14504216]

>>14504210
>>14504214
Mars is the God of War.

[Anonymous No.14504219]

>>14504216
I just love the name Ares. A shame it was used on those shitty rockets.

[Anonymous No.14504232]

>>14504210
They are going after him

[Anonymous No.14504235]

>>14504219
no one but us will remember them. we can reuse the name

[Anonymous No.14504237]

>>14504204
he's lost it

[Anonymous No.14504240]

>>14504237
They pushed him too far.

[Anonymous No.14504243]

>>14504204
he's going full bezos

[Anonymous No.14504245]

>>14503491
She's so perfect

[Anonymous No.14504249]

>>14504235
Reusable names? That makes me wonder, imagine if in the future rocket names were like cars', which are reused ad nauseam. We could have Starship (2022), then Starship (2030), and Starship (2040), all completely fucking different but with the same name regardless.

[Anonymous No.14504250]

>>14504204
>I'M NOT ONE OF THOSE BELTWAY PANSIES

[Anonymous No.14504256]

>>14504250

[Anonymous No.14504258]

>>14503920
I guess, what I'm trying to say... is that WE. CAN. DO BETTER. And not be a faggot like you.

[Anonymous No.14504260]

>>14504249
Starship MAX 8

[Anonymous No.14504267]

And all this science
I COMPLETELY understand
It’s my job and I do it well
A rooocket maaaaaAAaan
Not an Earther

[Anonymous No.14504269]

>>14504021
My belief is that he really was born in the US, but during his uni years he pretended to be foreign born for gibs and maybe even chicks too. That's why records of those days are locked up so tight, it would be just as bad if that came to light.

[Anonymous No.14504271]

>>14504269
I believe too anon. If we get everyone to believe, that means it’s true. Besides, it’s not like we’re making anything up. He really was born here

[Anonymous No.14504272]

>>14504237
>>14504240
punished Elon

[Anonymous No.14504276]

/sci/ has a 4cc match today, /sfg/'s representative Von Braun is playing >>14504229

[Anonymous No.14504277]

>>14504276
>no black science man
shameful

[Anonymous No.14504288]

>>14503702
>>14503616
Musk got Spaceballs though

[Anonymous No.14504293]

Elan Musk is and idiot!1111!

[Anonymous No.14504302]

>>14504293
Yup

[Anonymous No.14504348]

>>14504276
damn, it's been years since I've watched a cup

[Anonymous No.14504358]

>>14503242
anons, will we ever find cute aliens to love us and go on adventures with?

[Anonymous No.14504364]

>>14503257
Reminder that one of the test crew assigned to Starliner, who is now the assistant chief for commercial crew at JSC, stepped down for "medical reasons"
And the other one, who is also the director of crew and mission operations at Boeing, stepped down for "family reasons"
Another two got reassigned to Crew Dragon due to the delays

[Anonymous No.14504370]

>>14504364
Gives off STS-27 vibes, but it's so bad they haven't even gotten up there first.

[Anonymous No.14504389]

>>14504370
And Sunita is an old lady, so she will play the role of expendable astronaut there. Question remains who will be the poor souls joining her on the wild ride.

[Anonymous No.14504392]

>>14504198
lol Zubrin doesn't understand Twitter is closer to the source of culture than Netflix these days

[Anonymous No.14504397]

>>14504198
He's out of touch.

[Anonymous No.14504405]

>>14504397
i'm out of time

[Anonymous No.14504431]

This shit is pretty fun, take the basic orbital mechanics of KSP and distill them down to 2D https://flanets.io/

[Anonymous No.14504458]

Well I understand why Chris Kemp went to Davos now. He helped McKinsey put out a report advocating for various other countries to liberalize their space policies. Translation: hey you equatorial fucking shits we'll launch rockets for you if you promise not to steal our rocket tech when we launch from your soil.

[Anonymous No.14504459]

>>14504458
WTF I love Davos now

[Anonymous No.14504464]

>>14503249
>>14503321
>>14504202
I fucking hate Musktards more than just about anything.
Musk is living proof that capitalism failed, a giant retard is the richest man in the world. Thats some meritocracy for ya.

[Anonymous No.14504466]

>>14504272
punished elon arc is only starting.
He kicked the hornets nest, and then some.
I honestly believe musk will die by suicide with his hands tied to his back in the near future.

[Anonymous No.14504480]

>>14504459
They do at least have to provide SOME economic benefit for attending or they'd blow their cover as a Sith conclave led by Darth Eatzebugs.

[Anonymous No.14504485]

When are we going to get the Musk X Grimes fetish sextape drop?

[Anonymous No.14504487]

>>14504485
were more likely to get the musk&amber heard sex tapes at this point to save her carreer.

[Anonymous No.14504524]

>>14504464
Luckily it's just you being too dumb to understand what he does right, not anything actually wrong with Musk

[Anonymous No.14504532]

>>14504204
>ai-powered twitter bot army
>lawyer army
Won't be long before private military now

[Anonymous No.14504542]

>>14504532
good

[Anonymous No.14504547]

>>14504487
Entertainment media would implode if the Elon drama and Depp v. Heard got tied together

[Anonymous No.14504561]

Boeing is BACK BABY

[Anonymous No.14504563]

>>14504532
Good, Mars needs protection.

[Anonymous No.14504587]

https://firefly.com/
Firefly redesigned its website. It now has
>Alpha payload upped from 1000kg to 1170kg
>New payload users' guide, which states that Alpha can fly from Antares' pad at Wallops among other things
>Claims monthly launch for Alpha by year's end
>Beta render unchanged, but increased payload from 8000kg to 11000kg, stretched from 46.7m to 60.2m, and increased thrust
>Gamma is gone, as it should've been long ago
>The website is overall not garbage anymore
Also they followed the lead of their peers and gave their next launch a cutesy name, pic related

[Anonymous No.14504604]

>>14504587
spaceplane fags on suicide watch

[Anonymous No.14504614]

>>14504604
as always then

[Anonymous No.14504634]

How long into settling Mars until we have Martian Bigfoot/Yeti legends?

[Anonymous No.14504646]

>>14504634
Dunno about yeti but ayylmao artefacts basically confirmed in hearsay the moment planetary protection fags push to restrict some areas for human visit due to contamination concerns

[Anonymous No.14504657]

>>14504646
I can already see the History Channel series about people trying to find buried alien cities based off stone "maps" that are just cracks in a cliff face

[Anonymous No.14504663]

>>14504646
who's gonna stop them?

[Anonymous No.14504665]

>>14504657
>History Channel
They are still grifting with the Ancient Aliens (tm) show lmao

[Anonymous No.14504682]

>>14504458
I thought Davos was a city in Essos

[Anonymous No.14504684]

THE LOATHSOME MUSKRAT CONSOOMER

[Anonymous No.14504705]

>>14504587
It's really good to see that Firefly is still sucking wind. They're one of the few smallsat launchers that seemed to be heading in the right direction and I think they're kind of under appreciated. They've made really fast progress since their reincarnation in 2018. They also didn't fall for the electric pumps meme and while alpha is small it's not laughably so.

I hope they make it.

[Anonymous No.14504707]

>>14504705
bigger than electron, right?

[Anonymous No.14504714]

>>14504707
Yeah, by quite a bit. Electron is 300 kg to LEO and Alpha is 1000 kg.

[Anonymous No.14504771]

>>14504705
They're pretty clearly aiming for the government cheese market like Rocket Lab is.
>oh look we can do GTO and launch from the Antares pad now
>and Beta is now juuuuust big enough to launch Starliner from KSC (yes, Starliner weighs more than 11,000kg but Starliner has to do its final circularization burn anyway on Atlas V)
That said I hope it works out for them because their tapoff engines are kino.

[Anonymous No.14504780]

Why do NPCs hate Musk so much? Social media is full of mindless, blind hatred against him. I know it's bots spreading lies, but it's believed by real people. And as much as I'd like to ignore them, their votes count just as much as yours.

[Anonymous No.14504790]

>>14504780
they're livestock, not human beings
they will chirp whatever their owners tell them to

[Anonymous No.14504795]

>>14504780
This is literally paid propaganda, you can tell by how shitty the astroturfed memes are. These are the memes crafted by people over 50 whose job it is to figure out what's "it" and use it as they are told.

[Anonymous No.14504804]

>>14504780
>Elon Musk donated to the Republican Party on January 7, 2021
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.14504805]

>>14504780
>Why do NPCs...

Because they literally do what they are programmed to do. The reason is just an update

[Anonymous No.14504812]

>>14504780
>Blindly love musk or you are an NPC

[Anonymous No.14504820]

>tfw born too early to be a commercial space pilot with a privately owned ship

>>14504780
Musk pisses all over their sacred cows so either Musk is bad or they need to essentially rebuild their whole world view from scratch. Almost nobody is capable of doing the latter.

[Anonymous No.14504830]

who wants to play star citizen with me and my friends? :)

[Anonymous No.14504836]

>>14504830
Shouldn't you be working on real rockets right now, Peter?

[Anonymous No.14504837]

>>14504198
I didn't realize Zubrin was so based

[Anonymous No.14504838]

>>14504780
>Why do NPCs hate Musk so much?
They told them to.

[Anonymous No.14504862]

>>14504464
Why are you even here? Probably a troll.

[Anonymous No.14504875]

>>14504820
spacecraft will never be piloted by humans again

[Anonymous No.14504878]

Bezos has been openly fighting the Biden admin too in the last week. Coincidence? Recall he was also targeted by the for sexual misconduct (ie sniffing other women)

[Anonymous No.14504883]

>>14504780
Speaking of this, the anti-Tesla disinformation is insane. Now that normies and mainstream media dislike him, every single negative thing, no matter how small, makes the news, like when every time a Tesla catches fire. Anti-EV arguments are strong too, suddenly people now care about lithium and cobalt (Tesla already uses mostly cobalt-free batteries) production, always confusing the two. 99999 companies and industries across the world use them, including, oh surprise, the oil and gas industry. Have you ever heard about someone raising ethical concerns over cobalt being used during oil refinement and desulphurisation? Who cares anyways, we all know Musk himself has Congolese children, that no one has ever seen, living inside his gigafactories. Keep buying new smartphones and computers, I'm sure they are all 100% lithium free.

[Anonymous No.14504885]

What does this mean for Blue Origin?

[Anonymous No.14504890]

>>14504878
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.14504893]

>>14504878
>Coincidence?
It's more that they threatened to raise taxes in a way that would absolutely gigafuck Amazon share prices.

[Anonymous No.14504894]

>>14504885
Get off twitter

[Anonymous No.14504901]

>>14504771
Rocket Lab went back on their "RTLS only for Neutron" thing and bumped up its stats to 13t to LEO, so they'll be going after the crew launch market too.

[Anonymous No.14504903]

>>14504885
Did Jeff buy a funnier twitter handler or something?

[Anonymous No.14504906]

>>14504890
Yeah, i found out from pol

[Anonymous No.14504907]

>>14504878
just in time for real rocketry to win biden's heart

[Anonymous No.14504913]

>>14504907
it's not fucking fair billionaire bros. it was blorigin-x's turn!!

[Anonymous No.14504914]

>>14504907
The exact energy match between these two pics in staggering.

[Anonymous No.14504917]

>>14504914
Pence was praying over the hardware, Biden was instructed to touch all the demo pieces they put out for his photo op

[Anonymous No.14504918]

>>14504917
>Pence was praying over the hardware
what a fag lmao

[Anonymous No.14504919]

>>14504918
The Russians do it with style, India too. you're the odd one out for finding it weird.

[Anonymous No.14504920]

>>14504919
And? They're still fags.

[Anonymous No.14504921]

>>14504914
>>14504907
Neither of them know anything about rockets

[Anonymous No.14504923]

>>14504919
Praying is retarded

[Anonymous No.14504928]

>>14504920
>>14504923
I'm sorry you're a minority. I think splashing magic water on a rocket is silly too, but it is what it is and your feelings are irrelevant if the majority disagree.

[Anonymous No.14504929]

>>14504919
You don't need prayer when your spacecraft is reusable so you can test it before people get on.

[Anonymous No.14504934]

SPACEPLANE BROS IT'S TIME
https://twitter.com/thesheetztweetz/status/1526605448601817089

[Anonymous No.14504938]

>>14504934
>vulcan
yeah_ok.jpg

[Anonymous No.14504941]

>>14504934
>Two more weeks

[Anonymous No.14504943]

>>14504934
Reminder
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/963092110994886656
>Maybe that plan works out, but I will seriously eat my hat with a side of mustard if that rocket flies a national security spacecraft before 2023

[Anonymous No.14504944]

>>14504941
>Two more engines

[Anonymous No.14504954]

>>14504923
>he's unenlightened to the power of memetics and the nature of reality
what a fag lmao

[Anonymous No.14504957]

>>14504923
*tips fedora*

[Anonymous No.14504964]

>>14504944
Almost 10 years. Post this June 5.

[Anonymous No.14504969]

>>14504923
i think it's fun

[Anonymous No.14505002]

>>14504780
Rich man bad basically

[Anonymous No.14505005]

>>14504431
thats a lot like simplerockets 1!

[Anonymous No.14505058]

>>14504780
media propaganda

Look at who controls the media, and look at their articles on Musk for the last decade or so. Heck, for the twitter thing, just look at the last months' media coverage.

He's the literal hitler reincarnated to these NPCs

[Anonymous No.14505071]

>>14503857
>t. bluecheck: "my political ideology isn't an obstacle to space exploration"
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/rocket-launches-could-be-polluting-our-atmosphere-in-new-and-unexpected-ways/ar-AAXqQyy
>Rocket Launches Could Be Polluting Our Atmosphere in New and Unexpected Ways
https://futurism.com/the-byte/rocket-launches-bad-environment
>ROCKET LAUNCHES ARE SHOCKINGLY BAD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT

[Anonymous No.14505085]

So why were they told to stop the desalination plan? Its just taking salt water from sea and separating the salt from the water.

[Anonymous No.14505105]

>>14504682
That was Braavos.

[Anonymous No.14505164]

>>14503822
gross

[Anonymous No.14505173]

Can someones here tell Elon to forget his political ideas swallow his pride and buy Twitter already I need for my doge bags to go the moon yay plix and proxy plox I really need da moneyzzzz

[Anonymous No.14505196]

>>14505173
go back faggot

[Anonymous No.14505216]

Holy shit Tim is truly milking the piggies this time

[Anonymous No.14505219]

>>14505173
Been thinking the same thing. Doge is King, dont listen the the haters. Doge will be official crypto of Mars

[Anonymous No.14505223]

>>14504780
Wasn't he their darling a few years back "LE REAL LIFE TONY START MARVEL MAN"

[Anonymous No.14505237]

>>14505085
the water they return is saltier
think of the amoebas that could not handle it

[Anonymous No.14505238]

>>14505173
The Twitter buy is being held up by the fact that Twitter is trying to puff their value up with fake accounts, its literally a matter of billions of dollars.

[Anonymous No.14505253]

>>14504204
when can expect copy of The International Jew coming free with every Tesla?

[Anonymous No.14505274]

>>14505223
yup. it all started to go downhill beginning about 2016 when model 3 was announced. there was insane FUD during the model 3 ramp, and Tesla faced financial strains. Elon's wacky adderall tweeting got particularly bad in 2018 and it began turning people off- then he tried to save the day with those thai kids, culminating in the pedo guy remark. I recall he wasnt outspokenly against Trump, even though he stepped down from the business advisory council once Trump signalled the US would pull put of the paris climate accords. some other comments of his, and not towing the dem party line made him an enemy of dems. him shooting up to be the richest man on Earth didnt help that. it's all kinda goofy, considering Elon had very autistic tweeting looooong before 2016, but no one batted an eye. For decades, he was seen as the paypal guy. kinda odd, somewhat charming, naive, in over his head, liberal darling. Tesla was the pussy liberal environmental company in the eyes of the american right, even described as a con mam (electric cars wont work, and if they do no one would buy them).

we've had somewhat of a serious political reallignment since then. the revisionist history from zoomers and NPCs who couldnt be fucked to pay attention during the formative years is annoying to me.

[Anonymous No.14505281]

>>14505274
*a decade, not decades

[Anonymous No.14505288]

>>14505216
T W O W E E K S

[Anonymous No.14505304]

>>14505216
He learned capitalism from Musk himself. he's growing :)

[Anonymous No.14505359]

axiom is the first commercial station, but when will we have the first *real* commercial station, aka a big ass fucking place where people permanently live

[Anonymous No.14505370]

>>14505359
Never
By which I mean I'm not going to send you any phosphorus so you'll all die horribly

[Anonymous No.14505385]

is the polaris dawn space suit going to be big and bulky or slim like the current dragon flight suit?

[Anonymous No.14505388]

Some work at LC-39A

[Anonymous No.14505390]

wait these are supposed to be women in their 20s?

[Anonymous No.14505426]

[Anonymous No.14505428]

[Anonymous No.14505429]

>>14505390
What lmao
Well if they are close to 30

[Anonymous No.14505432]

[Anonymous No.14505438]

>>14505173
>crypto nigger

[Anonymous No.14505448]

>>14505426
>>14505428
>>14505432
following space news would make anyone a doomer

[Anonymous No.14505452]

>>14505448

Yeah its pretty bad.

[Anonymous No.14505455]

>>14505452

[Anonymous No.14505459]

>>14505455

[Anonymous No.14505460]

>>14505459

[Anonymous No.14505461]

>>14505388
>it's literally nothing

[Anonymous No.14505463]

>>14505460

[Anonymous No.14505466]

>>14505463

[Anonymous No.14505468]

>>14505390
What’s what “young” American women look like now

[Anonymous No.14505471]

>>14505466

[Anonymous No.14505473]

>>14505471

[Anonymous No.14505476]

>>14505473

[Anonymous No.14505479]

>>14505476

[Anonymous No.14505481]

>>14505479

[Anonymous No.14505488]

>>14505481

[Anonymous No.14505491]

>>14505488

[Anonymous No.14505493]

>>14505491

[Anonymous No.14505495]

>>14505493

[Anonymous No.14505498]

>>14505495

[Anonymous No.14505502]

stop spamming?

[Anonymous No.14505539]

Gayest spam in a minute. Collagetier

[Anonymous No.14505543]

>>14504198
Alright bros. I want to write a pro-space, pro-human spaceflight story. Any tips for writing? How should I go about it? What should be in it?

[Anonymous No.14505553]

>>14505543
Niggers
You're going to need a whole fucking pile of niggers
Good niggers bad niggers magical niggers

[Anonymous No.14505592]

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/21/space-industry-is-on-its-way-to-1-trillion-in-revenue-by-2040-citi.html

The space industry should reach $1 trillion in annual revenue by 2040, with launch costs dropping 95%, Citigroup analysts said in an extensive report published this month.

A further decline in the cost of accessing space would create more opportunities for technological expansion and innovation, unlocking more services from orbit such as satellite broadband and manufacturing, the bank added.

Citi’s estimates for the industry match forecasts published in recent years by Morgan Stanley, Bank of America and others. The global space economy’s value reached $424 billion in 2020, according to research from Space Foundation, having expanded 70% since 2010.

“Revenue from manufacturing, launch services and ground equipment will make up the majority of the revenue growth in the satellite sector,” Citi said. “However, the fastest growth rate is expected to come from new space applications and industries, with revenue forecast to rise from zero to $101 billion over the period.”

Private investment in space companies, especially from venture capital, has steadily broken annual records over the past decade. Last year, space infrastructure companies received $14.5 billion of private investment, according to Space Capital’s quarterly report, which tracks about 1,700 companies.

A flurry of space companies went public last year through SPAC deals, but most of the stocks are struggling despite the industry’s growth. The shifting market environment, with climbing interest rates hitting technology and growth stocks hard, have seen space stocks drop as well. Shares of about a dozen space companies are off 50% or more since their debut.

[Anonymous No.14505595]

>>14505592
Despite Citi’s optimistic outlook, the firm emphasized that much remains speculative in the industry, “such as space-based solar power, moon/asteroid mining, space logistics/cargo, space tourism, intercity rocket travel, and microgravity R&D and construction.”

“A similar analogy would be attempting to forecast the value of the internet today versus nearly 20 years ago when the term ‘smartphone’ was relatively unknown and before broadband replaced dial-up internet connections,” the analysts said.

In Citi’s view, a $1 trillion space economy would happen through a decline in launch costs, which it says “have already fallen precipitously since the 1980s,” about 40 times lower.

The cost of a rocket launch is typically broken out on a dollar-per-kilogram basis. From 1970 to 2010, Citi noted, the average launch cost plateaued around $16,000 per kilogram for heavy payloads and $30,000 per kilogram for light payloads.

The bank credited the private sector for the sharp decline in costs. “Lower launch costs were pioneered by SpaceX with the launch of Falcon 9 in 2010,” Citi said. The rocket dropped the average cost per kilogram down to around $2,500, 30 times lower than NASA’s Space Shuttle’s costs and 11 times lower than the previous historical average.

“Fundamentally, with the new generation of space being driven by the commercial sector, the launch industry is seeing a secular shift from being largely cost-plus pricing-based to being value-based in order to open up new markets and maximize profitability,” Citi said. “Previously, the launch market had a limited number of government-supported companies that were concerned more with military capability and creating revenue and jobs than with increasing operational efficiency.”

[Anonymous No.14505598]

>>14505595
The increasingly common practice of reusing rocket boosters is driving that cost down. Citi estimates launch costs could fall to about $30 per kilogram by 2040 in a best-case scenario. If rockets are “still only being reused around 10 times” each by 2040, which SpaceX is already doing, the cost still comes down significantly to about $300 per kilogram, the firm said.

The satellite market makes up the largest slice of the space economy, at over 70%, and Citi says the sector “is undergoing a paradigm shift in demand.”

While satellite revenues have dominantly come from services like television, the bank sees an expansion into applications ranging from consumer broadband to mobile connectivity to internet-of-things networks.

The bank believes the expansive satellite networks of SpaceX’s Starlink and Amazon’s Project Kuiper will accelerate this shift through “greater accessibility” to internet services across the globe.

Another sector Citi sees strong gains in is satellite imagery, which the firm estimates makes up about 2%, or $2.6 billion, of the current space economy. The bank forecasts an expansion in the sector driven by “space-as-a-service” applications, reaching $17 billion in annual sales by 2040.

[Anonymous No.14505601]

>>14505598
Expanding the space economy won’t be easy, though, the firm said, noting that the harsh environment of space, the steep upfront capital costs and the long timeline to see returns on space projects all represent significant growth risks.

Citi stressed that the perception of space “as a mere hobby for billionaires” represents another risk, as the industry “needs to gain public acceptance before it can be adopted across various industries.” While investment from private entities has driven down the cost of access to space, with more people and spacecraft flying for a fraction of what governments have been able to accomplish, the perception that space companies are ego-driven pet projects of the most wealthy individuals can damage the industry’s potential, the firm said.

As to human spaceflight, Citi noted that the failure rate for crewed launches is less than 2% historically. But that “is still far too high for space passenger flights,” it said, given that commercial aviation experiences failures at the minuscule rate of about 0.0001%.

Regulatory risk represents another obstacle for the industry, Citi noted. There are several federal and international entities responsible for approving and regulating space companies.

Then there’s space junk. Such debris represents “a rapidly growing threat to satellites in orbit, future launches and the expansion of opportunities across the space ecosystem,” Citi said. Tens of thousands of artificial objects are tracked in orbit around the Earth, with many times that expected to be in orbit but are too small to be tracked.

[Anonymous No.14505611]

>>14505598
>Citi estimates launch costs could fall to about $30 per kilogram by 2040 in a best-case scenario.
>$5m per launch
>150t to orbit
Crazy that that's actually realistically possible.

[Anonymous No.14505613]

>>14505601
>Then there’s space junk. Such debris represents “a rapidly growing threat to satellites in orbit, future launches and the expansion of opportunities across the space ecosystem,”
we can please get a new boogeyman now this one is getting old

[Anonymous No.14505623]

>>14505613
there was one last paragraph that I was too lazy to post, but would have to make another post due to the comment length restriction

> “This increases the risk of the ‘Kessler Syndrome’ becoming a reality — the idea that space junk in orbit around the earth, with no air resistance to slow it down, will reach a saturation point where it simply collides with other space junk and fragments into smaller pieces, until it eventually creates a debris field that stops any new satellites from being launched,” Citi said.

they seem to have a very basic/popsci tier understanding of actual space stuff

[Anonymous No.14505633]

>>14505613
Elon himself is the new boogeyman.
>"All the hatred in the world is gathered on me, as promised. So, all you have to do is to erase my existence, and put an end to this chain of hatred."

[Anonymous No.14505639]

Good morning sirs.

[Anonymous No.14505640]

>>14505639
It's amazing that that guy will forever be known as "the guy that Elon called a pedo". If he just shut up and didn't sue him it would have faded into obscurity like all the other people Elon dissed.

[Anonymous No.14505658]

>>14504964
oh fucking hell, I just woke up and did the math... and he said "more than" 3 years too, so sure, it's on my calendar now

[Anonymous No.14505661]

>>14505085
>>14505237
most desalination works by removing clean water from the salty water and dumping back saltier water, if you've ever had a reverse osmosis water filter, you can hear it drain when it's working

[Anonymous No.14505671]

>>14505390
>>14505429
>>14505468
>Aqualung
would not eye from a park bench

[Anonymous No.14505676]

>>14505640
Dumb muskrat

he had a right to defend himself via litigation against Musk's retarded tweets. Googling his name would've brought up the retardation even if he did shut up

[Anonymous No.14505679]

>>14505479

[Anonymous No.14505683]

>>14505676
If your community shuns you because bill gates called you a pedophile online, you need a better community.
Also think: Why would musk even say it in the first place if there wasn’t some reason to do so? I would do it if I saw a lolicon avatar.

[Anonymous No.14505686]

>>14505683
Because musk hired an PI through his family fund manager that scammed him and basically made shit up

[Anonymous No.14505687]

>>14505679

[Anonymous No.14505689]

>>14505687

[Anonymous No.14505691]

>>14505683
take that billionaire cock out of your moth

[Anonymous No.14505694]

>>14505686
Okay but why?

[Anonymous No.14505699]

>>14505694
idk, maybe musk was under massive stress due to model 3 ramp and got a bit unhinged as he got shit on trying to help
not sure if the "minisub" actually got to the dev level that it would have been helpful in some way

[Anonymous No.14505704]

>>14505699
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/10/world/asia/elon-musk-thailand-cave-submarine.html

not sure how narrow the cave is, but in some caves that people spelunk in, the caves are so narrow that you have to slide yourself through holes where your body meets the rock on many sides
maybe some kind of big bag would have worked with air?
its weird that musk even used any time on this

I'm thinking its just the stress getting to him and this was a weird outburst, but elon tends to be a bit weird even when under not much stress

[Anonymous No.14505706]

> The point where the boys became stranded was about 4 kilometres (2.5 mi)[60] from the entrance and 800–1,000 metres (2,600–3,300 ft) below the top of the mountain.[76] The route to them had several flooded sections, some with strong currents and zero visibility,[77] and some extremely narrow parts, the smallest measuring only 38 by 72 centimetres (15 in × 28 in).[78][79][80]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tham_Luang_cave_rescue

[Anonymous No.14505713]

>>14505704
>beta_Starship.jpg

[Anonymous No.14505723]

>large satellite constellations are driving alot of launches
how do we increase the number of launches even further?

[Anonymous No.14505725]

>>14505706
Idk if it’s just me but going into a cave after junior soccer practice sounds dumb. But then again Thailand is a shithole where the only amenities are shemales and liquor.
In any case, musk probably shouldn’t have gotten involved for no reason.

[Anonymous No.14505746]

>>14505661
>if you've ever had a reverse osmosis water filter, you can hear it drain when it's working
The 2000L/h unit I take care of at work definitely can be heard, that's for sure

[Anonymous No.14505753]

>>14505723
what caused the slump in launches between 2000-2005?

[Anonymous No.14505758]

>>14505753
The space dark ages. The 2010s were looking to be more of the same but then along came SpaceX and saved us from an eternity of faggotry.

[Anonymous No.14505794]

How can space civilizations exist when everything is zipping around at over 3 km/s? Every port would be crippled with paranoia that one of the dozens of trade ships won't perform a slowdown burn and take out half of the city. Planetary colonies would have to enforce strict no-fly zones for and swiftly resort to nukes on any violators. Even minor disagreements between colonies would be terrifying. Sure space is huge, but the insane speeds of everything leaves no room for error or peace. Am I missing something?

[Anonymous No.14505810]

>>14505539
>>14505502
Fag, all those old articles make great context for why we hate oldspace so fucking much.

[Anonymous No.14505819]

>>14505794
this is why we need more regulation

[Anonymous No.14505843]

>all those old articles make great context for why we hate oldspace so fucking much.

[Anonymous No.14505847]

>>14505810
You could have given your point when posting them and only posted a few examples, i atead of spamming 20 pictures that nobody is going to read or discuss

[Anonymous No.14505848]

>>14505847
I didn't post them, I just like that anon did.
It beats watching you retards discuss twitter trash for another hundred posts in a row, don't pretend it isn't.

[Anonymous No.14505855]

>arguing in circles instead of discussing the latest videos from spacesex shill channels.
Is this Spacex Fan General, or Shit flinging general?

[Anonymous No.14505858]

Watched all of Mars Guy's videos wtf i love roggs now can't wait till percy diggs in that sweet bacon strip

[Anonymous No.14505861]

>>14505855
>Is this Spacex Fan General, or Shit flinging general?
Bit of both, as it has always been.

[Anonymous No.14505879]

>>14505855
neither, this is the spacer fascism general

[Anonymous No.14505882]

>>14505794
Space is big.

[Anonymous No.14505894]

https://mobile.twitter.com/thesheetztweetz/status/1528378235326812171

> SpaceX is looking to raise up to $1.725 billion in fresh funding, CNBC has learned, sending the private company’s valuation to about $127 billion.

[Anonymous No.14505896]

https://mobile.twitter.com/TMFAssociates/status/1527686900059779077

[Anonymous No.14505900]

>>14505896
The guy is always anti SpaceX, so take it as a worst case assumption. He's the one giving esghound the platform. So take it with the grain of salt

[Anonymous No.14505917]

>>14504780
A lot of it is that with Trump off twitter and diminished in power overall the Left is desperately looking for the next Trump to hate on and they have found him with Elon Musk

I predict it won't last long once Trump starts making moves toward 2024 election again, Trump himself might be jelly of all the press Elon is getting too

[Anonymous No.14505924]

jannies do your fucking job

[Anonymous No.14505932]

https://twitter.com/ulalaunch/status/1528365359287484416

[Anonymous No.14505943]

>>14505900
Yeah, he seems very pessimistic most of the time, might even be an outright elon hater (and therefore biased)

[Anonymous No.14505946]

>>14505932
I wonder if they are going to show all the malfunctions

[Anonymous No.14505955]

>>14505943
>outright elon hater
Skeptic prob. Thats why there's the bias towards all of Musk's project but that might change. Just like how Esghound/CSS/Thunderfoot all originally tried to paint themselves as "skeptic" but became full blown Musk (as a person) hater.

[Anonymous No.14505993]

https://huggingface.co/spaces/dalle-mini/dalle-mini

brehs

[Anonymous No.14506007]

>>14505993

[Anonymous No.14506012]

>>14506007

[Anonymous No.14506064]

>>14505723

Someone take this chart and highlight Space X launches, I want to see what things would have looked liked if they weren't around.

[Anonymous No.14506068]

>>14503257
even my kekdamned car ac runs normally and nominally

[Anonymous No.14506070]

>>14505723
>how do we increase the number of launches even further?
Vote out Biden, buy ASTR, and subscribe to Starlink.
>daily Starship launches if not more
>weekly Rocket 4 launches

[Anonymous No.14506074]

>>14505633
Or you could just reform voting in America to be proportional instead of first past the post on multiple levels so people wouldn't be forced to side with one of two extremes every election.

[Anonymous No.14506081]

>>14506074
Geographic districting with a single winner means it's always going to be two parties as the equilibrium state.

[Anonymous No.14506084]

>>14506064
please don't. it'll just remind me of how the industry is just one nationalization away from ruin.

[Anonymous No.14506088]

Either Elon gets suicided or he's going to destroy the entire Democratic Party.

[Anonymous No.14506090]

just make the next thread in >>>/pol/ directly at this point

[Anonymous No.14506099]

>>14506090
No, you can't make me. That said yes I'd prefer more spaceflight less twitter/politics here too.

[Anonymous No.14506105]

>>14506099
Maybe companies should actually launch more often then.

[Anonymous No.14506111]

>>14506105
adhd fags go away

[Anonymous No.14506113]

>>14506090
>>14506099
What happened to discussing high level concepts about the future of space colonization?

[Anonymous No.14506117]

>>14506113
Anons were shouted down by shitposters telling them to fuck off.

[Anonymous No.14506119]

>>14503721
lmao

[Anonymous No.14506124]

>>14506113
not to speak for the whole general but popsci future colonization discussions are just dull speculation at this point. i prefer to talk about what is happening now and what is going to happen in the near term

[Anonymous No.14506138]

>>14503936
and engine braking if driving a vehicle of the superior kind

[Anonymous No.14506141]

>>14506113
One retard started making space threads on /pol/, spamming a ton of /sfg/ memes and shit, then linking to the general. It all went down hill from there.

[Anonymous No.14506142]

so to summarize Musk failed to land a cargo ship on Mars this year and raped a flight assistant back in 2016 when the first made the promise for the former.

[Anonymous No.14506143]

>>14506113
>high level concepts about the future of space colonization?
sounds cringe and far fetched. High level concept discussion would be talking about engines cycles or something more tangible

[Anonymous No.14506146]

>>14503775
So make SA a US teritory or something.

[Anonymous No.14506153]

>>14506143
/sfg/ essentially repeats this cycle
>talk about current news
>despair
>shitpost thread
>"high level near-future engine discussion"
>"my planet better than yours" thread
>actual real engines/rocket discussion
>despair
>repeat

[Anonymous No.14506163]

>>14506153
Space is not hard, it's suffering.

[Anonymous No.14506166]

>>14506153
Wouldn't want it any other way

[Anonymous No.14506173]

>>14506113
It's over, all anons were conscripted into Elon's personal army.

[Anonymous No.14506176]

>>14506153
Throw in anime/anti-anime derailment and this is accurate

[Anonymous No.14506179]

>>14506113
A lot of it got derailed by the solar vs. nuclear shitposting war, or by SpaceX and NASA publicly embracing proonting. Also there was a paper on how to get GCNTR performance out of beamed laser thermal with LH2 propellant so now between that and Starship the transportation problem is political more than anything else. (Zubrin has also written a three part blogpost on why the problem with nuclear is political.) At this point the best thing for space colonization is pro nuclear politics or laser killsats.

[Anonymous No.14506180]

>>14505810
>clickbait from years past teaches us how bad oldspace is
retard

[Anonymous No.14506191]

>>14505723
>how do we increase the number of launches even further?
Launch more mega constellations, or start building large numbers of things that require a hell of a lot more than one launch.

[Anonymous No.14506244]

[Anonymous No.14506248]

>>14506244
>you vill EVA in ze pod

[Anonymous No.14506251]

>>14505426
>>14505428
>>14505432
I've ran into so much of these future plans with the archive, 1969 it was "Mining on the Moon by 1990", 1973 was "$50 million per shuttle launch" in 1987 it was "Soviet Mars projects in 1994"
Extreme modern predictions about space seem ridiculous, but older predictions are just sad

[Anonymous No.14506254]

>>14506244
That'll be 1 trillion dollars.
Oh, plus tip :^)

[Anonymous No.14506260]

>What's the point of Falcon Heavy anyway?

[Anonymous No.14506261]

>>14504885
Bros, I'm scared. I'm starting to think of Benos as a human being.

[Anonymous No.14506265]

>>14506248
thats fine by me

[Anonymous No.14506267]

>>14506260
I bet SpaceX are really glad they went with making that holy shit

[Anonymous No.14506270]

>>14506265
for some reason that thing doesn't look very practical

[Anonymous No.14506271]

>>14506265
what if i have to poop?

[Anonymous No.14506275]

>>14505855
How long have you been posting in So Fucking Gay without realizing it?

Embarrassing

[Anonymous No.14506276]

>>14506271
diapers like in all EVAs

[Anonymous No.14506277]

>>14504885
kek, must think the answer to become successful with Blue Origin is to shitpost on Tw*tter, it worked for Musk anyways.

[Anonymous No.14506282]

>>14506260
>Psyche
>Griffin Mission 1
>Europa Clipper
All the launches will be exciting but these three in particular will be fun to watch after the rockets have come back down.

[Anonymous No.14506291]

>>14506282
Psyche and Clipper are all-expendable.

[Anonymous No.14506294]

>>14506260
>PPE/HALO
This will be the first time the initial module of a US space station has been lofted by something that wasn't a space shuttle or a Saturn V.

[Anonymous No.14506306]

>>14506291
Side boosters RTL for Psyche but yeah all three rockets die to send Europa Clipper on its way. A noble sacrifice.

[Anonymous No.14506310]

>>14506260
One small mistake there, launch in November is supposed to have elongated fairing.

[Anonymous No.14506314]

>>14506261
Probably the point. I'm sure all these guys have advisers and social media handlers who have the assignment of making them look more "relatable" and "down to earth"

[Anonymous No.14506315]

>>14506310
>t. didn't click the thumbnail

[Anonymous No.14506318]

[Anonymous No.14506319]

>>14506310
>vertical integration facility
Did tankwatchers notice anything? Unless that launch is delayed, they have six months left to build it.

[Anonymous No.14506323]

>>14506260
Wasn't Falcon Heavy supposed to be a niche product?

[Anonymous No.14506334]

>>14506323
2022:
>4 launches
2023:
>2 launches
2024:
>4 launches
2026:
>1 launch
It is, by SpaceX standards. For comparison, Delta IV Heavy launches once per year, or even less frequently.

[Anonymous No.14506338]

>>14506323
>2020
0 launches
>2021
0 launches

it is

[Anonymous No.14506344]

>>14506260
what exactly was meant to fly these payloads if falcon heavy never existed? Vulcan? D4H?

[Anonymous No.14506348]

>>14506282
especially Clipper

[Anonymous No.14506349]

>>14506344
If we're talking about Space Force missions, then definitely Vulcan, which is also replacing D4H. For Europa Clipper, the original choice was SLS.

[Anonymous No.14506352]

oof one of the decadal scientists got involved in some drama on the forums

[Anonymous No.14506354]

>>14506352
That's why I go to 4chan.

[Anonymous No.14506355]

>>14506352
link

[Anonymous No.14506364]

>>14506352
NSF forums? should have become a discord tranny. i'll dm him the /sfg/ discord....

[Anonymous No.14506368]

>>14506352
ok but explain

[Anonymous No.14506372]

>>14506349
>For Europa Clipper, the original choice was SLS.
I don't think Europa Clipper was ever going to fly on SLS, regardless of Falcon Heavy availability. In the absence of FH they probably would have flown it on any medium lift launcher on some autistic 100 different flybys trajectory

[Anonymous No.14506373]

>>14506352
?

[Anonymous No.14506376]

>>14506372
never underestimate the grift, unless 100+ fly bys guarantee 2 billion more in spending + tip

[Anonymous No.14506377]

>billions for urf
>billions for urfish wars
>pennies for space

[Anonymous No.14506378]

>>14506355
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=33971.860

>Look, what you proposed is rather silly--not only your earlier post, but the several more sentences that you have written above, like "increase the frequency..." I don't want to write a long discourse about this because then I should really charge you my consulting rate, and I'm expensive and you probably need that money to pay for food. But there's no such thing as "cheap" for outer planets, there's no such thing as "cheap" for nuclear, and we are not at risk of running out of Pu-238 in the next five decades
>you probably need that money to pay for food

[Anonymous No.14506379]

>>14506179
The thing is that a high power laser array could do laser thermal, laser electric, and it could shoot interplanetary or even interstellar solar sail probes. NTP is much more one dimensional and it has little application outside of cislunar space. I just wish nuclear proponents would understand that they are only shooting themselves in the foot by fostering something that could end up to be more expensive and less useful than the SLS program, in spite of better technology which includes nuclear electric and fusion.
>Solar Moth
Good taste. I would like to see a modern solar thermal proposal but I suspect the performance would still end up similar to solid core NTP thus it may not be worthwhile.

[Anonymous No.14506383]

Good mornong sfg, i am back and i am ready for you to post the daily funny tweets!

[Anonymous No.14506385]

>>14506372
>VVVEVVMEMGA, arriving in June of 2059

[Anonymous No.14506388]

>>14506378
>astronomer is a faggot
damn, I wasn't expecting that

[Anonymous No.14506390]

>>14506388
I hate them so much

[Anonymous No.14506391]

>>14506388
he is from the planetary decadal

[Anonymous No.14506398]

[Anonymous No.14506400]

>>14506378
All that text and he xould have just written one sentence, what a massive faggot

[Anonymous No.14506411]

>>14506391
thats just a collection of people, not some official organization

[Anonymous No.14506433]

IT'S HAPPENING JUNE 6

[Anonymous No.14506439]

>>14506388
>we are not at risk of running out of Pu-238 in the next five decades, and even when we do, we will probably substitute a different isotope instead and still use RTG technology and not reactors. Kilopower may eventually have a use for deep space missions, but right now, it's not on anybody's radar, and by "anybody" I mean the people who actually design and build real spacecraft. The only semi-realistic near-term requirement for Kilopower is to support human space operations, not robotic planetary missions.
This part of the post is basically correct though.

[Anonymous No.14506449]

I think field testing has its merits but sending a kilopower out to pluto just to test it seems kinda odd

[Anonymous No.14506457]

>>14506449
It's a flat-out retarded idea, to be honest, and I say that as a fan of kilopower.

[Anonymous No.14506460]

>>14506457
why dont they test it in antarctica?

[Anonymous No.14506467]

What's the point anymore?

[Anonymous No.14506468]

>>14506460
The test in Nevada was fine, do a moon mission or a Mars mission, which is what it was designed for.
https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/spacetech/feature/Powering_Up_NASA_Human_Reach_for_the_Red_Planet
Shocked /sfg/ isn't rabidly pushing for the technology designed to power a human presence on Mars be tested on Mars.

[Anonymous No.14506480]

[Anonymous No.14506500]

>>14506457
>as a fan of kilopower.
fellow cultured person

[Anonymous No.14506507]

>>14506315
he meant nov 2022 not nov 2024

[Anonymous No.14506513]

>>14506088
the only real thing is the deepstate - the permanent bureaucratic state - a few arms of which are now obstructing spx

[Anonymous No.14506521]

How many hours has it been since starliner broke something?

[Anonymous No.14506552]

>>14506468
>designed to power a human presence on Mars be tested on Mars.
Eh, sure it's marketed as being designed to power a human presence on Mars but in reality multiple 10 kW reactors would only work for a short stay mission with little ISRU, and according to the creator of it scaling Kilopower means it has to become gas cooled with a Brayton cycle which would be hard to pull off in time for any near-term landing date. The real use case for it is as an emergency or mobile power source, solar is far too cheap and easy for nuclear to become the bulk of future power production on Mars.

[Anonymous No.14506569]

>>14506552
>The real use case for it is as an emergency or mobile power source,
Yeah, sorry, I don't mean power exclusively. Just that if you were to test it somewhere, Mars is the cheapest most practical place to launch something that big, and one will probably end up there in some form at some point anyway. Also, there's most likely going to be a looooooong stretch of short stay manned Mars missions before anything really interesting happens.

[Anonymous No.14506576]

>>14506552
How would you deal with the dust problem?

[Anonymous No.14506579]

>>14506576
Give me around 15 million in exploratory funding and I think I can cook something up.

[Anonymous No.14506607]

>>14506576
>How would you deal with the dust problem?
I would angle the panels and then vibrate the support structure until the dust falls off. My preferred set up would be flexible thin-film arrays rolled out in north or south direction and then tented like pic related just with better engineering. Little support would be required because hurricane wind speeds on Mars is the equivalent to a stiff breeze here on Earth.

[Anonymous No.14506614]

>>14505543
Gainax beat you to it with Gunbuster.

[Anonymous No.14506663]

>>14506607
Isn't Mars dust highly magnetic and stick to everything? Or is that lunar dust I'm thinking of

[Anonymous No.14506694]

>>14506376
It's not a grift question, it's that they literally couldn't make the payload not shake itself to death on SLS.

[Anonymous No.14506700]

>>14506379
>I just wish nuclear proponents would understand that they are only shooting themselves in the foot
We need reactors in space, period. 90% of the paperwork for NTP is applicable to launching ground power or nuclear powered megaprobes or nuclear powered laser sats for the outer system, so NTP is a good first step because the military wants it and thus there's a chance of it actually getting pushed through.

[Anonymous No.14506721]

>>14505543
>pro-space, pro-human spaceflight story. Any tips for writing?
Start from the premise that the bad guys won WW2 and it all falls into place.

[Anonymous No.14506728]

>>14506433
this anime girl sucks because she's brown
normally I'm all about brown anime girls but you can just tell this one isn't supposed to be okinawan or whatever she's supposed to be Maori or whatever and polynesians aren't nearly as cool as brown japanese people

[Anonymous No.14506729]

>>14506439
Blackstar is right mostly but he's part of the problem
the problem is politics and everybody's convinced that the politics will never change and thus cannot be changed and thus are unwilling to change their minds

[Anonymous No.14506735]

>>14506694
that was mostly fake theater for the politicians so they could actually launch their payload instead of waiting for SLS

[Anonymous No.14506739]

>>14506721
there were no good guys in WW2

[Anonymous No.14506753]

Love how libs are 100% distracted by Elon's political tweeting to the point most are sleeping through the whole sexual misconduct thing. That's no accident, good on him :)
On the other hand, I am a hair's breadth away from dropping twitter for good, since he rarely posts about starship/raptor deets anymore. that was the only reason i went there

[Anonymous No.14506754]

>>14506728
They're kinda cool, they did all that island hopping a long-ass time ago apparently.

[Anonymous No.14506760]

>>14506753
The only thing twitter is good for is anime fanart, unironically.

[Anonymous No.14506762]

>>14506729
Eh, he seems insufferable but other than that I don't think I disagree. At some point you need to realize that we're not going to be landing a hundred people on Mars over the next ten years, funding thirty outer planets missions, building a 15m space telescope, moon telescope, orbital radio telescope, or any of the other things that are probably good ideas but are impossible to fund. The world where this makes sense...
>@Blackstar posted about reliability issues with the Kilopower reactor for long duration missions to the outer system. Quite reasonable, the Kilopower reactor should be tested before it is used on an actual science mission.
>So proposed sending a Kilopower reactor to the outer system to evaluated it performance. Then folks say it it costly. Sorry, but you could not really test for reliability in the outer system without sending a reactor out there to be tested.
...is just not the world we live in. Kilopower is currently unsuited for an outer planets mission, and in the context of testing kilopower, the idea of a "cheap" outer planets mission would be absurd, considering the alternatives are an Earth/Lunar/Mars orbital/landing mission. It's a terrible idea to do what is frankly the current NASA standard of intentionally pointless missions but still expensive missions to test hardware. Just look at Artemis. If you want to test Kilopower, throw it in orbit around Mars with some instruments. If you have funding for an outer planets mission, use RTGs. Don't spend 2/3s of the cost of a real mission on some janky Kilopower test rig that needs to go out to Pluto for some incomprehensible reason.
>the problem is politics and everybody's convinced that the politics will never change
They won't be changed between now and when Kilopower needs to be tested, which is essentially now. An outer planets test mission for Kilopower would be a giant waste of NASA's limited budget.

[Anonymous No.14506768]

>>14506762
At some point Elon will need to start lofting nuclear payloads without telling NASA beforehand and then just say "look, do you want the test data or not?"

[Anonymous No.14506772]

Cool, so Estronaut is never posting pt2, or pt3 or pt4. Good to know

[Anonymous No.14506778]

>>14506753
>On the other hand, I am a hair's breadth away from dropping twitter for good, since he rarely posts about starship/raptor deets anymore. that was the only reason i went there
Anything space relevant posts he makes usually get posted here anyways

[Anonymous No.14506819]

>>14506753
The "sexual misconduct" thing is a political attack. There's no sexual misconduct. Its likely just a series of misunderstandings.

[Anonymous No.14506830]

>>14506819
I know that, but the NPCs dont

[Anonymous No.14506859]

I wanted to fly on Starship to Mars, but after reading Elon's tweets, I just can't even. He was supposed to be like my comic book superheros like batman and robin and now he is an evil villain!! My söylent brain only understands in analogies to capeshit

[Anonymous No.14506861]

>>14506754
yeah but so did the Okinawans

[Anonymous No.14506864]

>>14506859
>Look a retarded twitter user
No one cares

[Anonymous No.14506865]

>>14506772
it's good that I get to mark him off of the "relevant journalist" list
took him long enough

[Anonymous No.14506872]

>>14506864
Got a (You), didnt I?

[Anonymous No.14506877]

>>14506859
>Shaggy
Like, what?

[Anonymous No.14506886]

>>14506251

Send links. I like collecting these links.

[Anonymous No.14506916]

>>14506886
Mining on the Moon by 1990, 18.5.1969
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/17D4fhg-bfEBazqaB5Vt0RgVdtU5OyM0K?usp=sharing

Space Shuttle, the DC-3 of the space age, 1973
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1EsNLXVi8nstVFYmot5Rq-VNEg51z_4Mj?usp=sharing

Soviet probes to Mars, 13.6.1987
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1QHsnz6HqIViPBhR9EbW81fhbACYEReER?usp=sharing

[Anonymous No.14506919]

>>14505753
there was a small boom in private commsats in the '90s (which partially covered for how much the demand for defense launches plummeted after the cold war ended) but then the tech bubble bursting in 2000-2001 threw a wrench into that

[Anonymous No.14506925]

[Anonymous No.14506933]

>>14506916
>Soviet probes to Mars, 13.6.1987
The Soviets were planning Mars probes for the 90s though. Thanks to the fall of the USSR the program got cut back to a single launch rather than two in the same window, got delayed until 1996, and then failed to leave orbit.
Between Mars-96 and Phobos-Grunt it makes one wonder why Europe chose Russia to develop the lander for their Mars rover considering Russia's incredibly awful luck at Mars missions

[Anonymous No.14506936]

>>14506439
>Kilopower may eventually have a use for deep space missions, but right now, it's not on anybody's radar
Let's be very honest again.

[Anonymous No.14506943]

>>14506916

Thanks.

>>14506933

If fall of Soviet Union put an end to all Russian space exploration, what excuse does Americans have for not delivering on any space predictions for many decades?

[Anonymous No.14506944]

>>14506323
build it and they will come

[Anonymous No.14506974]

>>14506943
Without the Soviets as a competitor most people stopped caring.

[Anonymous No.14506975]

>A poster on how to choke a guy!

[Anonymous No.14506977]

Yall watch the new NSF interview? You won't want to miss it!
https://youtu.be/Xunq0plW6qg
Make sure to like, subscribe, and hit that bell. Consider a subscription to L2 as well for insider access to the space industry. If you pay for channel membership, you will be personally noticed by NSF staff. You also gain access to the NSF Discord, so come on and join!

[Anonymous No.14506979]

>>14506944
he said while building a brothel

[Anonymous No.14506983]

>>14506728
personally I find all anime girls attractive below a certain age

[Anonymous No.14506984]

>>14506977
How much do I have to pay to ensure NSF staff never get within 500 miles of me or my loved ones?

[Anonymous No.14506987]

>>14506859
>basing an economic decision of significant financial volume on the personality quirks of a dude who has aspergers rather than over the technical merits of the product in question
What a massive faggot.

[Anonymous No.14506990]

>>14506974

So now with China as a competitor why hasn't USA went back to the moon or mars?

[Anonymous No.14507002]

>>14506984
USER WENT TO CRY ON NSF FOR THIS POST

[Anonymous No.14507013]

>>14506990
Bush, Obama, and Biden are all on China's payroll.

[Anonymous No.14507020]

>>14506990
China isn't a true competitor yet. They're still years behind the US and are not capable of upstaging them in any way like the Soviets could. It's why sabre-rattling about a second space race has never accomplished anything

[Anonymous No.14507031]

>>14506990
Fish and Wild life.

We've been delayed by more than half a year by them.

[Anonymous No.14507041]

>>14507031
any ideas how we can shut them up for good?

[Anonymous No.14507058]

>>14507041
Nuke it, dot it.
Help the welp groups
And DPS very hard,
As hard as possible.

[Anonymous No.14507060]

>>14507041
Get SCOTUS to affirm that 5th Circuit ruling that the entire administrative state is invalid.

[Anonymous No.14507074]

>>14506576
jannies will clean it up for free

[Anonymous No.14507087]

>>14506983
anime girls don't have ages they're fucking drawings not people

[Anonymous No.14507090]

>>14507060
that would be far too based to be reality

[Anonymous No.14507095]

>>14506576
it's inpossible. just watch the NSF video from today, NASA Langley knows it isnt possible

[Anonymous No.14507103]

>>14507087
relax

[Anonymous No.14507111]

>>14507074
not possible
https://youtu.be/Xunq0plW6qg?t=4312

[Anonymous No.14507126]

>>14507103
no
I'm going to go sign up for a bunch of contracts in KSP and complete some mindless busywork to calm down

[Anonymous No.14507131]

>>14507126
Why not stop that and play star citizen with me?

[Anonymous No.14507133]

>>14506663
Yes it's magnetic and slightly electrostatic, but also extremely fine to the point that the dust must collect over many sols to cause the output to decrease significantly. Inclined surfaces are unlikely to get much of a buildup so dust mitigation may not be needed at all for most of the panels that will be deployed on Mars, although anti-dust coatings would be very simple to implement.

[Anonymous No.14507136]

I can’t believe estronaut is making the fucking musk interview an 8 week milk. What a fucking cunt

[Anonymous No.14507139]

>>14507131
sounds gay as fuck

[Anonymous No.14507144]

>>14507139
it's free :)

[Anonymous No.14507148]

>>14507136
tell him that on twitter. all he has is little cockgobblers that slurp his cum with delight. he needs to hear criticism

[Anonymous No.14507149]

>>14507060
that's just going to mean congress has to directly write all the rules to be enforced. it's not going to solve anything in the long run.

[Anonymous No.14507158]

>>14507136
>I can’t believe estronaut is... a fucking cunt
It's in the name.

[Anonymous No.14507161]

>>14507136
Just wait 2 weeks, it's not that hard.

[Anonymous No.14507168]

>>14507149
The whole reason these agencies were granted broad authority is that Congress had neither the time nor the votes to pass specific rules the proper way.

[Anonymous No.14507177]

>>14507168
it means they didn't want to because it was easier to pass the buck. but there's plenty of ways to pass the buck within the legislative branch too, like just throwing everything into an omnibus and pretending you have to vote for it because it's the only way to keep the government running.

[Anonymous No.14507179]

>>14507136
It's gonna be outdated by the time it comes out lmao. Although lets be very honest again, it's going to be the same shit we've heard of for 40 minutes, with 1 or 2 lines of new information (big window is kill, different number of engines, more fins, etc)

[Anonymous No.14507181]

>>14507179
the orbital test flight deploying starlinks was news to me but i haven't kept up that much

[Anonymous No.14507201]

>>14507179
nooooo not the big window :((((

[Anonymous No.14507287]

Why can’t Elon just shut the fuck up for 5 minutes?

He’s ruining his image normies have of him, he can’t be doing this if he wants SpaceX public support

[Anonymous No.14507288]

>>14507287
>caring what normoids think
go back

[Anonymous No.14507291]

>>14507287
Will it be the normalfags who build cities on Mars?
No, so it doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.14507296]

>>14507291
>Will it be the normalfags who build cities on Mars?
Mars will be built by mexicans

[Anonymous No.14507309]

>>14507287
He's winning the hearts of the portion of the normies who's representative politicians will be in power for the next 20 years. Normies aren't just a solid mass of leftoids.

[Anonymous No.14507310]

>>14507296
based space latinos

[Anonymous No.14507318]

>>14507296
I wish to hear your serious explanation for the proposition of sending and maintaining a Mexican population to Mars for the purpose of building a space colony.
Otherwise, I will dismiss it as merely a shitpost.

[Anonymous No.14507330]

>>14507318
I'm going to dismiss your life as a shitpost

[Anonymous No.14507334]

do you guys like dog legs?

coming this wednesday…

[Anonymous No.14507335]

>>14507330
with bullets

[Anonymous No.14507340]

>>14507334
please drop it on Miami

[Anonymous No.14507346]

>>14507330
Beaner.

[Anonymous No.14507352]

>>14507334
I'm more of a fox leg fan

[Anonymous No.14507359]

>>14507334
the vehicle is B1061.8

this will be the vehicle’s 8th launch, including crew1 and crew2.

doesn’t a remarkably historied vehicle deserve a real non-autistic name?

[Anonymous No.14507362]

>>14507359
It isn't even the fleet leader

[Anonymous No.14507370]

REMINDER:
Olympus Mons has almost as large of an area as Arizona. (picture taken by Indian orbiter btw)

[Anonymous No.14507374]

>>14507362
you just know that every piece of new glenn hardware is going to be named after the respectable heroes of Our Democracy

[Anonymous No.14507377]

>>14507374
I'm just waiting for New Bezos

[Anonymous No.14507380]

>>14507377
*New Iguanamuncher

[Anonymous No.14507384]

Florida Starship launches and landings are going to be some next level shit

[Anonymous No.14507386]

>>14507374
It's gonna be awkward when the New Grissom fucking kamikazes itself into Bezos's mom and sets fire to the crew.

[Anonymous No.14507399]

>>14507370
I rode a bicycle across Arizona from east to west. It's big. I envy future circumnavigations of Mars by man.

[Anonymous No.14507400]

>>14506064
spacex counts for 21 of the launches this year out of 58, so there would be about 30% fewer launches this year

[Anonymous No.14507403]

>>14506191
>start building large numbers of things that require a hell of a lot more than one launch
space stations...

[Anonymous No.14507407]

>>14507405
>>14507405


Bew Bread

[Anonymous No.14507420]

>>14507407
Premature staging event, ABORT
ABORT

[Anonymous No.14507465]

>>14507384
sus

[Anonymous No.14507492]

>>14506663
moon

[Anonymous No.14507528]

>>14507384
this design was cancelled years ago

[Anonymous No.14507564]

>>14506762
>At some point you need to realize that we're not going to be landing a hundred people on Mars over the next ten years
Literally no reason SpaceX won't be able to support sending ~3 crew starships to Mars 10 years from now.

[Anonymous No.14507566]

>>14507179
Big window isn't kill faggot

[Anonymous No.14507602]

>>14506760
Twitter is garbage for art.

[Anonymous No.14507743]

"I did not expose myself to that woman"

[Anonymous No.14507814]

I do not expose myself to women.

[Anonymous No.14507914]

>>14505491
This is still happening though, i think they went with Spaceport Cornwall. There's also Orbex building Sutherland Spaceport

[Anonymous No.14507947]

>>14507384
Mmmm roggets

[Anonymous No.14507992]

>>14507420
it was page 10 before I went to bed, and page 9 now, it's another jannies suddenly kill a dozen threads episode

[Anonymous No.14508076]

>>14507566
Dumbass, it is absolutely kill

[Anonymous No.14508131]

>>14507386
Grissom's Revenge.