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14492505 No.14492505 [Reply] [Original]

There is currently technology on earth that is capable of going from sea level to 70K ft in under 1 second. Are we really going to let the government hide this from us? They are acting like they don't know what these are but someone in the IC does!!! Let's shake things up and get disclosure!

>> No.14492515

>>>/x/
or
>>>/pol/

>> No.14492521

>>14492515
definitely not /pol/ material.

>> No.14492526

>>14492505
>There is currently technology on earth that is capable of going from sea level to 70K ft in under 1 second
Proof? Oh you're just assuming two radar returns are the same object. OK.

>> No.14492534

>>14492526
Anyway, that acceleration would kill any human. Humans can barely withstand 8g for 1 second and couldn't withstand more than 2g for an hour. So max acceleration is at best 20m per seconds which means that we would need nearly a month alone to accelerate to something like 0.1c

>> No.14492556

>>14492505
>uses Imperial units
ngmi

>> No.14492679

>>14492534
ok but i mean assuming you were using a warp bubble or some similar effect wouldnt the craft not actually accellerate or move at all? the Gs in a warp bubble traveling craft would be standard as if the craft werent moving wouldnt it?

i dont think we are assuming that these objects are using traditional kinetic propulsion

>> No.14492744

>>14492515
>cutting edge military radar detects objects moving at impossible speeds
>jets move out to investigate
>pilot sees the fucking thing
>it duplicates his movements through the air going up towards him
>it fucking disappears in a split second
>shows up on radar at their meet up coordinates
>fly back and land on carrier
>tell other pilots
>they fly out to find the fuckers
>they actually find them at capture IR video of the tic tac and gimball
I want you to rationally explain this, cause I surely can't think of anything and neither could the Top Gun pilot who flew at the thing.

>> No.14492905

>>14492744
All military personnel are dipshits and unknown dangerous hardware is a good excuse for increased defense spending so the higher ups don't say anything different. Could be china could be American secret project could be a flock of birds and some edibles. Radar is a known garbage technology that's almost caused nuclear annihilation before.

>> No.14492911

>>14492744
>they actually find them at capture IR video of the tic tac and gimball
So when you go back out and get good experimental data all the crazy impossible physics completely disappear and the videos show things that can be explained using birds and planes.

>> No.14492959

>>14492911
>Mick West trash
Military radar will not mistake a bird for a plane and the FLIR pod wouldn't show a bird as colder than the ocean, a Top Gun pilot will not mistake a bird for a giant tic tac, I also want to know the species of bird equipped with active radar jammers?

>> No.14494260

>>14492959
>I also want to know the species of bird equipped with active radar jammers?
every bird has a radar cross section small enough to pass as invisible for radar. you would need a really large bird, i mean, prehistorically large or a massive flock of birds to create a radar echo.

>> No.14494297

>>14492744
Gimbal is from 2015, different event.

>> No.14494312

They said it very clearly, they've never going to show what the capabilities of their instruments and what they can and can not see and detect, so forget the military showing anything clear and amazing, no radar data or anything of that sort.

>> No.14494405
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14494405

>>14492526

>> No.14494431

>>14494405
Significant statements made by Ben Rich
(former head of Lockheed Skunk Works)
Specifically pertaining to advanced propulsion/space travel
all have been 100% verified and authenticated


“The Air Force has just given us a contract to take ET back home”
(source: 1993 WPAFB slide presentation)

“We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an act of GOD to ever get them out to benefit humanity”
(source: statement made after UCLA presentation to three Disclosure Project witnesses)


“We now know how to travel to the stars”
(source: UCLA School of Engineering Alumni speech 3/23/93)

“There is an error in the equations, and we have figured it out, and now know how to travel to the stars, and it won’t take a lifetime to do it”
(source: UCLA School of Engineering Alumni speech 3/23/93)

“Jim, we have things out in the desert that are fifty (50) years beyond what you could possibly comprehend. If you have seen it on Star Wars or Star Trek, we’ve been there done that, or decided it was not worth the effort”
(Source: direct comments by Ben Rich to Jim Goodall via telephone call at the USC medical center approximately one week before Ben passed away on January 5th 1995)

“Dear John, Yes, I’m a believer in both categories. Feel anything is possible. Many of our man-made UFO’s were Un Funded Opportunities. In both categories, there are a-lot of books and charlatans, be careful. Best regards, Ben Rich”.
(source: 7/21/86 letter to John Andrews (Testors model Corporation) from Ben Rich who asked Ben if he was a believer in A) man made UFO’S, and B) extra-terrestrial UFO’s)

>> No.14494439

>>14494405
>>14494431
UFOtards can't take a joke.
https://www.blueblurrylines.com/2014/10/ben-rich-area-51-taking-et-home.html?m=1

>> No.14494457

>>14492505
that's been debunked:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsEjV8DdSbs

>> No.14494476

>>14492959
>Military radar will not mistake a bird for a plane
Who said they did?

>the FLIR pod wouldn't show a bird as colder than the ocean
Of course it could, the air temperature at high altitudes can be much colder than the ocean.

>a Top Gun pilot will not mistake a bird for a giant tic tac
Who said they would? There is no tic tac in the GOFAST video.

>I also want to know the species of bird equipped with active radar jammers?
They got a radar lock on it, that's how we know it wasn't actually going fast.

It's amazing how confused UFOtards are.

>> No.14494589

>>14492505
>>government admits it's aliens
>>we start putting up detectors to reverse engineer how they work
>>we're able to infer that alien craft use exotic matter
>>we determine that we have literally no hope of making the exotic matter within millenia
>>no new technologies result
>>the aliens give us a message that they're not interested in us until we can make said exotic matter

>> No.14494614

>>14494405
Those quotes are fake

>> No.14494638

>>14494439
>he was just joking bro, i swear.

>> No.14494640

>>14494614
wierd cope but ok

>> No.14494912

>>14494638
He was documented as joking over and over again, then UFOtards took it out of context.

>> No.14494924

>>14494912
Of course he was only "joking"

>> No.14495052
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14495052

It's most likely alien probes, people lose their marbles when they think of little green men like the mick west fanboy here.

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14495057

This what during the Gimbal video were seeing, gofast was filmed during the same day.

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>> No.14495077

This is the best case in my opinion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_10zDNP8cIM

It's best here if you can watch it somewhere:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4269210/reference/

>> No.14495435

>>14494924
Yes, you finally got it. Good job retard.

>> No.14495440

>>14495052
>It's most likely alien probes
LOL. >>>/x/

>> No.14495444
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14495444

>>14495057
Better image

>> No.14495450

>>14495444
Right but now look what it looks in real life and not as a graphic.

>> No.14495452

>>14495440
We send probes to other planets but not aliens to us!! Humans are the best that will ever be.

>> No.14495456

The so far most accurate documentary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PVbBEhUJ2Q

>> No.14495477

>>14495452
Aliens sending probes to other planets =/= aliens sending proves to our planet. You fail at basic logic.

>> No.14495481

>>14492515
This belongs here a lot more than /pol/, retard

>> No.14495521

I don't care about space travel. Colonize Antarctica.

>> No.14495532
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14495532

>>14492744
Airplnes.
Balloons.
Birds.
Malfunctioning equipment.
Hallucinations.

>> No.14495551

>>14492505
if I were alien I would shoot every human ship, automatically, until they burn every bible, quran and germ theory books.

>> No.14495641

>>14492505
>There is currently technology
Your tech looks like an CCD error.

>> No.14495848

>>14492744
Ball lightning

>> No.14496283

>>14492959
If it wasn't just a lens anomaly then why wasn't the air glowing red hot like meteorite hit it as it defies physics? Also the pilot only saw what was on his his MFD screen.
Whats the difference between "radar jamming" and the object not actually being there?

>> No.14496298

You are now aware those very aliens are now posting in this thread to deny this and make up excuses why it’s not true.
At least we get to talk with aliens I guess…

>> No.14496301

>>14495532
>>14495848
>>14495477

Alien hands types this

>> No.14496334

>>14495477
Well you failed at basic lexicon.

>> No.14496584

>>14496301
we dont have "hands"

>> No.14496588 [DELETED] 

>>14494405
>Pentagon has insane technology thats centuries ahead of everyone else
>Doesnt use it tom make USA unstoppable military and scientific superpower
Sounds very believable no

>> No.14496589

>>14492744
>Pentagon has insane technology thats centuries ahead of everyone else
>Doesnt use it tom make USA unstoppable military and scientific superpower
Sounds very believable

>> No.14496619

>>14495532
it was probably gltiching video equipment. Been editing videos my whole life and all of these ay lmaos seem to be just fucked up video equipment so far

>> No.14496669

>>14492505
>but someone in the IC does!!! Let's shake things up and get disclosure!
Its me. You dont deserve space travel, you are our cattle

>> No.14496676

>>14496589
What technology prevents the USA from conquering all the non-nuclear armed world? Like all of Latam and Africa

>> No.14496686

>>14492959
>muh top gun

>> No.14496887

>>14495061
what r those spikes?

some kind of gravitational propulsion system elements?

>> No.14496891

>>14492744

flying penguerinos, sensations after the mexican birthday party

>> No.14497144

>>14496887
Fravor and the other pilots that witnessed the tic tac ufo saw some spikes, you can see them in the original video here, you'll have to wayback it.
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread265835/pg1#pid2926921

The whole object was smooth without rivets, windows or seams but had those pegs.
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/uc2x3a/wow_this_is_the_famous_tic_tac_ufo_the_image_is/

>> No.14497157

>>14496676
There are a couple of events where the ufos disabled or activated nuclear warheads, it was talked in that UAP event the other day.

>Schindele said he and his commander visited a missile launch site near Minot in September 1966, and eight airmen there told him that 10 missiles at silos in the vicinity all went down with guidance and control malfunctions when an 80- to 100-foot wide flying object with bright flashing lights had hovered over the site.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/10/19/air-force-veterans-who-are-ufo-true-believers-return-newly-attentive-washington.html

If this was true and that's a big if, whoever had this tech would control the planet.

>> No.14497173

>>14497157
Seems like these aliens want to prevent a nuclear war

>> No.14497721

It would make my life feel pretty meaningless if alien tech is out there. What's the point of doing all my research if someone else has already pushed way beyond.

>> No.14498049

>>14497721
it feels good to independently discover something

>> No.14498077

>>14492505
We always talk about UFO's, but what about the USO's?

>> No.14498145

>>14497173
Or give someone opportunity to strike first.

>> No.14498188

>Hearing classified again
This either ayys or black projects either american or someone's else. No third option

>> No.14498285

>>14498077
Only the Navy knows and they're not saying anything on that subject because they don't want their adversaries to know what they can detect.

Anyone interested can listen to the Congressional Hearing on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena and the excuses of why they won't share anything:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ai7tW9GTog

>> No.14499915

>>14494640
They're literally fake.
I know everything there is to know about Ben Rich and Lockheed.

>> No.14500147

I just want aliens to adduct me and take me away from this gay ass world, why is it so much to ask?

>> No.14501529

>>14492505
Let's be clear. It went from ABOVE 70k feet that was simply the radar's maximum range.

It fully complies with all known laws of physics. Reduce intertia and you can both do extreme maneuvers and travel at ~90%+ speed of light.

We aren't getting it, because then there would be nobody to sell us oil!

Hope the solar flare stops us being captive!

>> No.14501536

>>14492534
Unless you reduce inertia, then it doesn't natter AT ALL.

oh you accelerated at 1000g? Good thing you are at 0.01% mass! You only felt 1g!

>> No.14503385

>>14492534
>he doesnt know about inertial dampners

>> No.14503424

>>14496619
>ive seen this
so yeah 10,000 people must be wrong

xD lamo

>> No.14503437
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14503437

>>14492505

ONE PROOF I DON'T KNOW WHY
IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER “DISK IN THE SKY”,
“IT'S THE GREY GUY” HOW MANKIND IS BLIND
DO EXPLAIN THIS SHREW GRIME?
AYY L-MAO
“UFO” AN UNKNOWN FLYING THING
IT DOESN'T EXPLAIN THE REPULSION OR CLING
ACRONYMS HIDE, KEEPS DISCUSSION AT BAY
DEEP STATE TRICKS, WHAT'S TO SAY?
PERHAPS LENS GLARE?
BETTER LOOK OUT, FED GLOW
SCHAUBERGER FLOW ,“NAZI'S IN THE SNOW”
LYIN' TO HOLD ON, “G-GOLDEN RATIO!”
COPY PASTED AND SCRAWL BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW

THEY TAPPED EVERYTHING AND PRIED, HOARDED INFO WE'RE DENIED
WHILE YOU QUOTE DESCARTES
OSTENTATIOUSLY, LETTER AGENCY
CENSORS MEMORY OF A TIME WHEN

THEY SPIED SO HARD AND GOT SO FAR
BUT IN THE END IT'S STILL [REDACTED] MATTER
THEY EXPUNGE ALL INCREASE THE THRALL
BUT IN THE END IT'S STILL [REDACTED] MATTER

ONE PROOF, AND I'LL SHOW WHY
IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER YOU JUST DESCRIBE
“INFO I MINED, MYSTIFIED MY MIND”
YOU MALIGNED YOURSELF, HOW YOU
SLIDE SO HARD
IN SPITE OF THE WAY YOU JUST GAWK WITH GLEE
“X ELEMENT HAS SOME SPECIAL PROPERTY”
REMEMBERING ALL THE TIMES THAT YOU SQUAWK AND PLEA
LIE, SURMISE FOR
BOB LAZAR
BRINGS UP AND MISCONSTRUES THE LORE
INTUITION IS A TRIP TO LIQUOR STORE
NOT THAT YOU EVER KNEW, A DEAD END
CAUSE THE MEN IN BLACK LOVE TO PLAY PRETEND

THEY CREPT EVERYTHING AND LIED CONTINUE TO MISGUIDE
YOU JUST PLAY THEIR PART
WHAT IT MEANT TO ME NO POTENTIALITY
JUST MORE FANTASY FOR A TIME WHEN

THEY LIED SO HARD AND SET THE BAR
BUT IN THE END IT'S STILL [REDACTED] MATTER
THEY EXPUNGE ALL INCREASE THE THRALL
BUT IN THE END IT'S STILL [REDACTED] MATTER

I PUT NO TRUST IN YOU
SHUSHED THE FED HE STARTS TO GLOW
FOR ALL THIS
THERE'S ONLY ONE PROOF YOU COULD SHOW
I PUT NO TRUST IN YOU
SHUSHED THE FED HE STARTS TO GLOW
FOR ALL THIS
THERE'S ONLY ONE PROOF YOU COULD SHOW

THEY LIED SO HARD AND GOT SO FAR
BUT IN THE END IT'S STILL [REDACTED] MATTER
THEY EXPUNGE ALL INCREASE THE THRALL
BUT IN THE END IT'S STILL [REDACTED] MATTER

>> No.14503444

>>14501529
Ever ride a roller coaster? When you accelerate under a gravitational field you don't "feel" any acceleration (in fact, you feel weightless). This is because the force of gravity is interacting with every atom in your body equally, thus nothing is getting "squished" like it does if you're accelerating in a car.

You're thinking that this machine somehow works like an airplane. But it doesn't have any wings, so obviously that's not how it flies.

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>>14503444
>This is because the force of gravity is interacting with every atom in your body equally, thus nothing is getting "squished" like it does if you're accelerating in a car.
It is not necessarily the "force" of gravity, it's you being impelled upon yourself. Down to brass tacks, in terms of fields this is electromagnetic hysteresis. The fields, the cells that is in your body have to play "catch up" in a Newtons cradle manner. The hysteresis caused by the disparity of what they were doing before (flowing in your body) and accelerating to a new location while trying to prop themselves together remaining unchanged, doing what they're still doing relative to that acceleration.
So if a UFO accelerates, the whole structure must be accelerating at the same time. Otherwise some parts of it would rip itself apart from the hysteresis disparity. Also, there's the molecules OUTSIDE the UFO that must be taken into consideration.

Like trying to jump from train to train moving opposite direction, or to a non moving train it wouldn't work out well. You must jump train to train when they're moving at the same speed in the dame direction to avoid harm. So wind, water, solid mass...it also must "make" or influence those things become the second train to jump to. It must accelerate the area around it to form a geometrical field/barrier whatever so that it aids travel instead of hindering it with more hysteresis. This is the only workround to

>b-but they violate the laws of physics

Because those consider the traveling object to be independent from "the road traveled". A UFO manipulates "the road traveled".

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>>14503502
Another good example, it would be like trying to answer:
"How fast can a magnet travel in iron filings"

It's indeterminable, it distorts and manipulates the "distance" being measured by which it would "travel". Also technically speaking the magnet "does no work" so how is it traveling in the first place? It's moving the material around and making the means of travel less retarded. Literally.
Ponder this the next time you think UFO's are powered by shitty bottle rockets.

>> No.14503543

https://youtu.be/8iod2-oFNpI