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Remember Jacob Barnett? I know his family has had some legal trouble (the Ukrainian dwarf child they left alone in an apartment so they could run to Canada) but last I heard he was working as a researcher?
Has he put out any papers/theories that “disprove relativity” (like he claimed he was going to) yet?

>> No.14489677

>>14489673
You should know by now that child prodigies never amount to anything special. Why did you even make this thread?

>> No.14489681

https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-50319910.amp

Source for the child claim here

>> No.14489686

>>14489677
Because I hate Jacob Barnett more than any human being in history, (Alive or dead)

>> No.14489691

>>14489686
Why? Have you ever met him?

>> No.14489696

>>14489677
Because this is a board with racist losers obssed with IQ and psychological like, e.g. the mass shooter of this weekend who had a manifesto 60% composes of /sci/ /pol/ memes.

>> No.14489698

>>14489696
Besides the topic of IQ, what does any of that have to do with so-called "prodigy" children?

>> No.14489697

>>14489691
Me and him have had a lot of serious beef for the past 12ish years, a decade ago when I was a kid I used to make threads talking about him all the time

He’s awful

>> No.14489699

>>14489698
I see..
do you think he remembers you?

>> No.14489701

>>14489696
What the fuck are you talking about, please don’t shit up my Jacob Barnett thread with nazi shit

>> No.14489703

>>14489698
Jacob Barnett was claimed to have “an IQ proven greater than Einstein” (Einstein never took an IQ test if I recall correctly)

>> No.14489705

>>14489701
Where do you think you are posting buddy, your thread is literally floating in a sea of wojaks and pepes talking about their intelligence tests, phrenology, charles murray, IQ and other pseudoscientific garbage.

>> No.14489706

>>14489703
Probably it was his parents doing most of the claiming. Clearly his parents were psychos, but hasn't himself Jacob pretty much dropped off the public radar since becoming an adult?

>> No.14489707

>>14489699
Probably

>> No.14489720

he has 2 papers with respectively 5 (on his 2015 paper) and 0 (his 2020 paper) citations. he is still listed as a grad student at perimeter institute after starting in 2013. so he’s a 9th year grad student who’s done nothing.

his second paper got removed from inspire and a second revision was posted to arxiv about a year after the first version so maybe it was seriously flawed and isn’t passing peer review

looks like he was a meme all along.

>> No.14489726

>>14489720
>looks like he was a meme all along.
no shit

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14489734

It's almost as if IQ is a garbage test that can't predict jackshit and psychologists can't into probability. But who cares if I can use it for my racist arguments and boost my ego!

https://medium.com/incerto/iq-is-largely-a-pseudoscientific-swindle-f131c101ba39

>> No.14489744

>>14489734
The kid was pretty damn good at math from what I remember, but highly autistic, so it was more of a savant ability than just super intelligence.

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>>14489673
>Has he put out any papers/theories that “disprove relativity” (like he claimed he was going to) yet?
No, but here's your disproof if you're interested.

>> No.14489760

>>14489720
You have no idea how happy this information makes me, thank you

>> No.14489761

>>14489754
you’re that compsci guy wh’s like 35 right? with no physics education and you spammed threads with your name prominent? i remember looking you up and feeling so sorry for you

>> No.14489765

>>14489761
Cool story bro.

>> No.14489771

>>14489734
>It's almost as if IQ is a garbage test that can't predict jackshit
Nah, it works fairly well. But IQ only tells you somebody's potential at best. 70 IQ? You'll never be a successful mathematicians. 140 IQ? That's a lot of potential, but it could easily be wasted or squandered.

>> No.14489803

>>14489677
this

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>>14489677
>You should know by now that child prodigies never amount to anything special.

>> No.14489819

>>14489673
he wrote a treatises on traffic signals and optimal traffic flow. if im remembering the right person.

>> No.14489833

>>14489806
you’re still here Jon? i took a break for a while and i didn’t expect you to still be around. you manage to clean yourself up and hold down a job?

PS: not your mom or the feds, i’m the guy who told you higgs isn’t spin-1

>> No.14489835

>>14489696
IQ is a test that measures intelligence. then if the average for one group is lower than another, would it not be genetics? like east asians have 1.5x longer small intestines because of genetics. wouldnt the brain have the same relationship race because of genetics?

>> No.14489849

>>14489835
IQ does not measure “intelligence” since nobody agrees on what the definition of “intelligence” is. IQ tests measure how good you are at IQ tests. before stating that anything measures “intelligence” we need to agree on what that term refers to, and i do not agree that it is synonymous with the ability to do good on IQ tests

>> No.14489867

>>14489849
you take a iq test when you are a kid going to the hospital for blood test and shit. the pediatrician runs a shape and pattern recognition test to see if you are autistic. "can you tell me the shapes in order" or "can you tell me which shape doesnt belong" usually done with eye tests to see if eyes work.

>> No.14489877

>>14489867
addendum
"how would you describe the shape in the picture?"
"can you tell me how many triangles there are?"
also they measure how long you pay attention and stop after ten minutes.

>> No.14490036

>>14489673
>Ukrainian
>High iq

>> No.14490049

>>14489703
enstein was a fraud. so was Marie Skłodowska and Pierre curie.

>> No.14490052

A lot of people are smarter than Einstein, myself included. Why should I use my brain to contribute to society?

>> No.14490068

>>14489867
>>14489877
this doesn’t sound like an “intelligence” test to me. imagine if you did the same thing to Helen Keller. she’s score 0. and she obviously was extremely intelligent to learn so much despite being deaf and blind

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>>14490036
ty comrade, 3 ruble is deposited to your account

>> No.14490076
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>>14490052
Don’t.
Use it to improve yourself.

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>>14490052
you should use your superior intellect to it's fullest extent and dominate society as much as you can, if you can't then some else will and you will become their unwilling servant. if you can reign supreme then improving society becomes a self serving goal but until that point you must first struggle for supremacy.

>> No.14490107

>>14490100
do you actually think it’s cool to post fanart of hitler? honestly

i mean your post would be weird but OK without the hitler art but come on. really?

>> No.14490122

>>14490076
>>14490100
based posts.

>> No.14490325

>>14490068
why would you test hellen keller it was known she was blind, deaf, and dumb. why would any do a eye test on her? yes mrs keller the results are conclusive as we suspected at 3 years old you daughter is still blind. Of course she would score a zero because it wouldn't be given to her.

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>>14490107
why do you even bother looking at 4chan if pictures of hitler make you angry? theres an extremely wide variety of aggressively censored safe spaces available to you, if you kept to those places then you wouldn't have to worry about seeing the hitler pictures which cause your fear and loathing response.

>> No.14490367

>>14490338
>>14490100
the bravest patriot. he served his country well until the embargoes killed his country war could have been over if france gave them a colony. fucking oil embargoes kill countries and start wars.

>> No.14490550

This thread is fascinating. OP is some bitter old ex friend of some loser with a "high iq" he wants to hatepost about and a bunch of polfags trying to somehow save face for their forced IQ memery. Quality shit op.

>> No.14490654

>>14489686
Based

>> No.14490656

>>14489761
Haha holy shit I think I remember this guy posting here in like 2014

>> No.14490856

>>14490052
I don’t care if you “should” or “should not” do anything, I only care to know that Jacob Barnett is stagnating and doing nothing

>> No.14490865

>>14489849
>IQ does not measure “intelligence” since nobody agrees on what the definition of “intelligence” is
And? That's a problem concerning etymologists. The fact remains that an 80 IQ person won't become college educated any time soon.

>> No.14490876

>>14489720
>le citations

>> No.14490909

>>14489697
Refer me one of those "prodigies" papers from arxiv.
I'll wait

>> No.14490924

>>14489760
How bitter and insecure must you be?

>> No.14491595

>>14489703
IQ doesnt mean shit by itself, einstein didnt come up with relativity because of high iq, he did it because of imagination, curiosity, taking real interest in the things etc.

>> No.14491995

>>14489849
>someone who can't complete the sequence 1,2,3,4,... totally isn't mentally retarded, xe can still be a great mathematician
Epic cope

>> No.14492035

>>14489835
Its measures IQ test results not intelligence

>> No.14492039

>>14491995
Sequence 1,2,3,4? What follows next?

>> No.14492046
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>>14490100
hh

>> No.14492051

>>14489698
He never misses an excuse to mention /pol/.

>> No.14492052
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14492052

>>14489673
Nobody ever succeeds at knowing who the important adults of the future will be based on the apparent intelligence of children.
Basically all children are retarded and trying to find "the next Einstein" is an even dumber version of astrology for pseuds.

>> No.14492065
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14492065

1. IQ is the best definition of intelligence. Someone who scores <60 can without doubt never be an educated individual. Someone with IQ 140 will definitely have it easier to learn abstract stuff compared to someone with IQ 100.
2. Intelligence does not imply success, nor vice versa. Paris Hilton didn't get rich by virtue of her intelligence. Neither did Donald Trump. Joe Biden didn't become president because of his intelligence. Klaus Schwab and Larry Fink are among the most powerful people in the world, yet while being certainly above average they are by far no genius mathematicians. Meanwhile a lot of highly intelligent people work wage slave jobs in R&D and will never be known by name. Success is primarily about looks and socioeconomic class.
3. Intelligence does not imply a moral obligation to do research, let alone to advance the inhumane industrial-technological system. In fact a genius who is also capable of morality will rather want to leave acadummia behind and live innawoods.
4. Citations on your papers amount to nothing more than a social credit score. Acadummia is a hostile environment to the genius, constantly enforcing conformity and a mindset of quantity over quality. Pajeet, Zhang et al will gain lots of citations by producing a shitload of low quality papers only to be cited by other midwits doing the same. Meanwhile a genius will be denied funding because he is deemed economically disadvantageous as soon as he plans to do more than three months of research, as this contradicts the shortsighted capitalist mindset of never planning further than the current quarterly figures.

>> No.14492069

>>14490367
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZXbOVVIBjg
Cope

>> No.14493350

>>14489673
where is this image from?

>> No.14493710

>>14493350
He's not wearing mask, so it was either before or after the "pandemic".

>> No.14493754

>>14492065
Of all languages available, you decided to speak facts.

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>>14489720
seems hes switched to study tomatoes

>> No.14494503

>>14489677
What about Terrence tao

>> No.14494611
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14494611

>>14489677
Its true. Source: am child prodigy. Work as a lower management at a firm and do research as a hobby.
What do I need to become like Elon Musk/Tony Stark, bros?

>> No.14495171

>>14489673
You're a loser anon

>> No.14495372

>>14494611
You gave up at an early age and realized that working an easy job is the safe way to live.

>> No.14495849

>>14495372
Yeah, all my teachers and the WEF sponsors told me I should dedicate my life to helping spread diversity through management, but I want to mend my ways.

>> No.14496033

If I haven't used my potential, how can I fix it?

>> No.14496037

>>14496033
Partake in IQ-lowering activities on a regular basis. No potential - no problem.

>> No.14497731

>>14496037
Already do, that's why I'm in /sci/. But I want to enjoy a huge harem and drown in pussy like Chadlon. Alas my research on how to fix "The Tranny Problem" hasn't made me rich yet

>> No.14497840

>>14497731
Wanna share the results of your research?

>> No.14498325

>>14489697
So did you personally know him? Any context or stories please?

>> No.14498382

>>14489673
He seems to be holding a banner in some sort of protest.
I sincerely hope that's not the case.

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>>14498382
I seriously hope this guy doesn't do this

>> No.14498399

>>14489673
Why would he if he can just take IQ tests and shitpost on /sci/ instead?

>> No.14498408

>>14489744
So he's kinda like a human theorem prover?

>> No.14498411

>>14490052
You shouldn't but you should use it to further improve yourself with pharmaceuticals until you're powerful enough to reign them.

>> No.14498427

>>14498411
Holy based. Certifiably anavarpilled and amphetaminepilled and redpilled.

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14498431

huh.

>> No.14498454
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14498454

how does this picture make you feel?

>> No.14498546

>>14489734
IQ isn't what most retards (like yourself) believe but please produce sub 100 IQ researchers in STEM and list their contributions.

>> No.14498584

>>14494611
Step one: be born into money.

>> No.14498725

>>14492039
7 since the sequence concists of numbers such that each successive pair sums to a prime and no numbers are repeated.

>> No.14498747

>>14498584
Mission failed, we'll get 'em next time boys.

>> No.14499052

>>14489686
If you don't hate the Jews more than anyone else, then you need to straighten out your priorities. Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of Jacob Barnett and his christfag cable news grift he had going back in like 2011 or whatever, but hes definitely not the person I gate the most.

>> No.14499298

>>14498584
B-but the news tell Elon built it all from the ground up! He said the mines are a lie.

>> No.14499412

>>14489677
Stephen Wolfram started a successful software company.

>> No.14499470

What drugs must I take to become as smart as Einstein?

>> No.14499486

>>14499412
>>14494503
Actually good counter-examples, I'll admit. Still, supposed child prodigies are a dime a dozen, and examples of them actually succeeding are few and far between.

>> No.14499487

>>14489696
i thought that was /pol/ not /sci/man dan

>> No.14499491

>>14489833
Still ere, shooting the shit. How are you

>> No.14499691

>>14489697
>Me and him have had a lot of serious beef for the past 12ish years
You have a beef with him.
>a decade ago when I was a kid I used to make threads talking about him all the time
And he has no idea you even exist.

>> No.14500342

>>14498584
He built it all from the ground up. There are plenty of interviews where Elon explains how he came up with PayPal on his own.

>> No.14500888

How did Elon become as amazing as he is? He's clearly African so genes aren't the answer.

>> No.14502129

>>14500888
He does look African.

>> No.14502148

>>14489720
Lol cause your papers are retarded and useless.

>> No.14502149

>>14489761
Lol you have a fragile ego.

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14502280

>>14489696
eat it faggot

>> No.14502383

>>14500888
Elon is a chad.

>> No.14502433

>>14499491
Always good to see you around Jon.

>> No.14502435

>>14489734
nassim taleb wrote that as a cope because of lebanon's profoundly low average IQ score

>> No.14502459

>>14489720
Sad. One more promising kid who got chewed up by (((academia)))

>> No.14502471

>>14493772
Based tomato enjoyer

>> No.14502707

>>14502459
Academia is good, only losers don't know how to take advantage of it.

>> No.14502809

>>14489720
That kind of makes me happy

>> No.14502831

>>14502459
He didn't get chewed up. He was given more of a helping hand than I ever was. If he was any good at all he would've published more than 2 less than mediocre papers in ten years.

>> No.14503394

give him a call and ask him yourself
(519) 569-7600 x8073

>> No.14503401

>>14489734
Why do you simp for niggers?

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14503442

>>14489806
what should be done about this?

>> No.14504290
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>>14489673
As a general rule, things that the MSM hype almost always turn out to be BS - especially if it's about science or facts. Media and journalists are notoriously reality challenged. In fact, on of the things you want to look into doing, whenever something is hyped in the media, is to "put a short" on their predictions.

>> No.14504300

>>14504290
Liz, Milton and Elon together are the final proof that science is fake.

>> No.14504301

>>14504300
From one perspective. From another perspective, they are also the best proof of it: you cannot argue with reality. When you argue with reality, reality always wins.

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>>14489673
But there is one thing that almost annoys me, one thing that is not properly understood about science and scientists: the role that CHARACTER plays in scientific discovery. It's a cultural trope of sorts that scientists are simply smart and that is why they discover things. No, that's not true. There is some good correlation, but it's not enough. You also need to have COURAGE as a scientist, because a scientist is supposed to create, discover, find something new. But the things that are most novel also are more likely to run afoul of current social tenets. If your discovery does not upset anything, chances are it's not a very noteworthy discovery.
If the current cultural climate and the decline of academia have shown anything then it is that most academics are pathetic COWARDS. Cowards do not innovate. Cowards do not create. Cowards are "bloodless", in the way Nietzsche described it. And they are exactly the kind of obsequious midwits that we are all increasingly used to seeing in academia. That chances that anyone "politically correct" innovates anything, even in a subject that should be as neutral as math (if you think that, you've never been around real mathematicians), are virtually ZERO.

Kura, Kenya, Jan te Nijenhuis, and Edward Dutton. “Why Do Northeast Asians Win So Few Nobel Prizes?” Comprehensive Psychology 4 (January 1, 2015): 04.17.CP.4.15. https://doi.org/10.2466/04.17.CP.4.15..

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>>14504319

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>>14504326

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>>14504329
The importance of the role that character plays for a good scientist is something that is not well understood, not even by scientists.

I do not care how smart you are. If you're a coward, chances are you will be a loser who amounts to nothing - IQ be damned. Even if you accrue some fame in this cultural climate, then chances are you've published something that will be relegated to the trash pile of history as soon as culture shifts again.

So stop being cowards.

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>>14504335
Maybe that is also part of the reason why many of the most famous scientists and innovators have been reputed to have particularly prickly personalities. I don't know if they need to be prickly invariably, but at least you apparently need to have the the latter: a personality. And the limb-wristed, testosterone deficient mama boys that I see being held out as scientists nowadays do not exactly scream "personality", so my expectations are not favorable.

>> No.14504357

>>14494503
Has any of Tao's math equations amounted to the creation of real world applications? Or has it primarily just been proving the math behind several theoretical physics and computer science applications are sound?

Not disputing your example though.

>> No.14504437

>>14504355
> limb-wristed
limp

>> No.14504465

>>14504437
Yes, you're right. There are more spelling mistakes, though. You can keep them all.

>> No.14504469

>>14489696
/pol/ lives rent-free in your head

>> No.14504474

>>14498584
poorfag cope

>> No.14504475

>>14489734
>medium.com

>> No.14505097

>>14504475
No article to note I've seen at all

>> No.14505134

>>14489673
Einstein didn't do anything

>> No.14505168

>>14489696
That guy was a fucking idiot and the manifesto read like it was written by a buzzfeed journo larping as a white supremacist.
What the hell does that have to do with /sci/?
You are equally retarded and maybe will find things more comfortable and less upsetting on another site

>> No.14505203

>>14489744
What's the difference btn 'superintelligence' and savant ability?

>> No.14505241

>>14489754
>retard writes the definition of time dilation and thinks he discovered something new
ahahahahaha

>> No.14505283

>>14499052
Even with your containment board you fags can't stop shitting other boards.

>> No.14505395

>>14505168
I completely agree.

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>>14494611
Unrelated but why do white South Africans have slanted eyes? Is it Khoisan admixture?

>> No.14505774

>>14505241
>completely fails to understand what he's looking at

>> No.14505836

>>14505774
>he thinks sr is magic

>> No.14505881

>>14489696
I agree with 99% of what you said, but that incel shooter is pure /pol/. /sci/ has a bare minimum, very bare yeah, but still minimum of decent people. No shooters from here

>> No.14505915

>>14505836
To the contrary, it's completely pedestrian and can be explained entirely by classical physics.

>> No.14505944

>>14505283
Seethee jew

>> No.14505962

>>14505915
>it's so pedestrian he can't wrap his head around it and instead thinks he proved it wrong
amazing

>> No.14505976

>>14489849
>>14489698
>>14489835
>>14489696
IQ tests were unironically invented by le jews, that's why ashkenazi jews are always at the top of iq tests.
I think IQ tests are only a good tool to know if u are retarded/stupid/autistic rather than measuring the intelligence of a person.
If u can't complete basic mathematic problems (within a certain metric if u want) then u are retarded, but if u complete those same problems but do it faster that doesn't make u more intelligent, it's the same shit like autistic cunts, some are very good at a certain skill, like the nog who drew central park with just one glance, but then they can't effectively communicate with other humnas bc they are very stupid in regards of social etiquette.
In regards of survivalism u can say the hunting niggers from africa are far more intelligent than any 200iq lab faggot.
Intellect, intelligence, thought, audacity etc., there are so many aspects in the activity of the brain/body that u cannot encompass all with one word, much less 1,2,3,4 sequence tests or any faggy problem u think is good.

>> No.14506014

>>14505944
Have sex incel