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Astronomy and space exploration Thread!
This is the famous earthrise picture taken by the crew of apollo 8

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looks like wallpaper

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This is a picture of the moon I took

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Shit's deep.

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>>1435077
Hubble deep field
still amazing

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This is the international space station

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>>1435023
Pictures like this only further increase my love for astronomy

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Wish I could see this stuff with my own two eyes.

sigh

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Earth+moon from mars

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They see me cruising they haten

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Here's a quite recent picture from Cassini. Titan is in the foreground, about a million km from the spacecraft, and Dione is in the background, a little more than twice as far away. Note distinct Dione's features are compared to the cloudy hydrocarbon skies of the solar system's largest moon.

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Not trolling-
The OP picture; how do you know for sure that we ever landed on the moon? You weren't there, and only a few have supposedly been there. You just trust word of mouth? What kind of 'science' is that? Surely that doesn't fall under Occam's Razor.

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I have a ton but they're all too big to post on this shitty board.

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>>1435208
>not trolling
>trolling

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>>1435208
It would have been harder to fake a moon landing and convince everybody involved to keep quiet about it than it would have been to send men to the Moon. Occam's Razor wins again.

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I don't think you understand Occam's Razor. It is not a law.

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Starcluster NGC 265.

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>>1435210

this. I have one that's like 100,000x70,000

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>>1435116
can you imagine how it must feel to look at the earth like that and see how far away it is. It must be so scary being on the moon so far away from any help if something goes wrong.

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>>1435208
Also we've got samples of moon dust and rock, it's similar but different to earth's dirt in composition and weathering patterns.
Cool mirror's were placed on the moon, we shine lasers on it which get reflected back and we can measure the distance of the moon.
Also OP's picture shouln't be called an "earthrise", the same side of the moon faces the earth constantly so the earth doesn't move in the sky

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Landscape of Mars

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>>1435275
I think dying on the moon would be one of the best deaths ever. Might as well go out in style.

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1/2
these wallpapers give me vertigo

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>>1435304
2/2

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>>1435294
yea but imagine how it must feel like for the cosmonauts being on the moon and looking back at earth, they must have balls of steel to be there and just do their job like it's a normal thing to do. Yeah what's next on the list to do, oh yea go get some rocks from 384000km away from any living thing

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>>1435278
the apollo 8 craft was orbiting the moon so it looked like it was rising

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>>1435159
wow, that's breathtaking

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>>1435294

Seriously. If I knew I was fucked and had 30 minutes to live on the moon I would bury myself to my neck and raise one arm out like im sinking into the earth, and send that as the last photo back to earth.

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>>1435325
ah, touche

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>>1435333
More people have died on the earth then on the moon

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>>1435350
>if

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>>1435350

point?

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blood red moon
natural phenomenon

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My own picture of saturn

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>>1435283

I recognise that terrain, is spain, natural park doñana (Huelva,andalucia) , I have been there

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A solar eclipse photographed from Мир.

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AMERICA FUCK YEAH!

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>>1435518
That module looks cramped, even for 2 of them

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>>1435435

lokks like navi

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>>1435236
Jupiter is fucken beautiful
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What is this

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>>1435574
Not sure what it is, looks like some kinda nebula. Hope it's not CGI

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http://io9.com/5589536/virgin-galactics-tourism-spaceship-making-its-first-flight-with-crew

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>>1435574
http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/heic0601a/
Orion

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this nasa site is absolutely awesome if you are into solar astronomy:

http://sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov/data/aiahmi/rangeform.php

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>>1435585
Those lens halo's shouldn't change direction, right?

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Sun.

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Partial milky way, by an ameteur. CCD Astrophotography is mind bottling.

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>>1435574
This is the orion nebula, Messier object 42. Taken by hubble or spitzer, or some other space telescope, I think. But possibly could be one of the more advanced land based scopes. Ameteurs can image this object easily, but this is way higher resolution than any land-based i've ever seen.

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>>1435765
Me again. Here's the same nebula in infra red. Courtesy of Spitzer (infrared space telescope)

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More Galaxy

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Even more galaxy

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The Hubble: worth all that money just for the desktop backgrounds.

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>>1435077
This galaxy in the photo is the largest galaxy ever discovered, and according to our current laws of physics is too large and young to exist.

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>>1438098
Oh yeah, forgot to mention, but this is how the galaxy looked when the universe was only 800 million years old. It has 8 times the amount of stars as the milky way

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>>1438110

Do you know what laws specifically it breaks?

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Sigh. All these beautiful images just make me want to get stoned and lie on the ground outside, observing the stars for hours.

But I have no weed and it's cloudy / cold out there at the moment.

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>>1438137
Maybe I phrased that a little wrong, but the star formation in the galaxy progressed far too quickly compared to other galaxies that were formed less than a billion years after the big bang. I didn't mean to say laws of physics, but rather physics theories.

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Sunset from aboard the ISS

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>>1435116
That picture is fuckin mind blowing knowing that eveything that exists is on that tiny blue dot in the middle of no where.

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>>1438170
I've always wondered, when the ISS is on the dark side of the Earth, can they see as many stars as an observer on Earth would see?

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/r/ JAXA earthrise wallpaper

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The picture I took of mars

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>>1438181
About as much, the atmosphere is pretty transparent, disregarding clouds and fog and such. You wouldn't see that many more stars. The atmosphere absorbs alot of ultraviolet and infrared light though so that's why they put telescopes in space. The visible light is a very small part of the spectrum, and the telescopes are able to see in either ultraviolet or infrared light, depending on what kind of telescope it is.

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<3 this thread

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To think this happened just because is amazing.

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>>1438181
Probably about as many as an observer on earth would.
If that observer had no light pollution obscuring the sky, so from a field in the middle of nowhere e.g.

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Sunset on Mars...

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You see this shit? It's a fucking binary black hole.
A fucking black hole is as fucking destructive as it gets, and this is not fucking one, it's fucking TWO black holes.
Oh the oblivion.

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Post More Galaxies

I used to play a game called Spore...for about 8 hours before it was the same old repetitive shit

Anyways please post more galaxies

Or if you know a good galaxy game let me know Id like to try it

Please no EVE it was terrible

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And ofcourse our neighbours

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>>1438437

You should try Sins of a Solar Empire.

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>>1438475

Sins of a Solar Empire? I will check it out. What type of space game is it?

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>>1438503
If MoO gets you hot, Sins will leave you panting in a pool of it's own cum

To me, it's everything MoO3 should have been.

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Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.

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>>1438646
At first that picture was awesome, then I noticed the obvious fake :(

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>>1438681
It's not a fake.

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>>1438646

This needs a 'this looks shopped' caption

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>>1438686
> Shuttle flying at an attitude that it could never maintain in reality, given that it has to be on a -17 to -19 degree glideslope at 10000 fpm descent for a stable glide
> F-15s cast shadows towards the camera, shuttle casts them away from the camera
What?

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Luckily, there exists a non-shooped picture of the F-15 and the Shuttle together:

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>>1438730
That looks more like it

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Can someone tell me why there are no stars in the background?

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>>1438845
The camera was adjusted for daytime. The light reflected from the ground "drowns out" the starlight.
If the camera was adjusted to capture starlight, the moon surface would be too bright.
They were there for pictures of the moon, not of stars

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>>1438863
Thanks, that makes sense.

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>>1438863
go to bed, agent of the state

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>>1438863
Yes. The short answer would be: "For the same reason we can't see the stars during the day on earth" - Both human eyes and cameras have to be kept from overexposure, and reducing exposure will keep the stars from showing up.

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>>1439072


You can see stars if you look closely.

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>>1439072

Hurrrr Moon does not have an atmosphere.

The Pic of the ground in OPs pic looks fake as hell.

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>>1439152
Hurr durr, Earth at night still has an atmosphere and you can see the stars.
Do what now?

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>>1439176

Where are the stars then in the moon pics?

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>>1439201
Durr, those pictures were taken during the lunar day.

The stars can't be seen because of the exposure, see above (except for the occasional glimpse at venus or jupiter, which are much brighter than the brightest star)

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It's a planet, but not one of ours.

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>>1439347
And on it is life Jim, but not as we know it.

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>>1439347

Pixel not a planet.

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/sci/, me and you will see different galaxies in our lifetime. Because we will be IN those galaxies.

http://www.hplusmagazine.com/articles/forever-young/manhattan-beach-project-end-aging-2029

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>>1439395
A pixel that shows up over several entire orbits (meaning local years) and moves as dictated by orbital mechanics.
What a strange pixel, I wonder what it represents?

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:D

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>>1439423
Haven't you heard? The Singularity was cancelled last year due to economic crysis. We've been at the top and it's all going down from here.

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>>1439423
:D
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Fuuuuu.

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This thread is epic.

Also, in answer to the guy who asked if you could see the same number of stars from the ISS when on Earth's night side, you'd see shitloads more than normal. I've been on the Inca trail in Peru, and on one of the campsites we were pretty much in a mountain range. Because of the clearer air, lack of light pollution and elevation, you could see fucking millions of stars. You could see the milky way so clearly, there was literally no spot in the sky you could identify as being black, there were that many stars. So I assume viewing from the ISS (if you had no lights inside your cabin or outside) you would see the same number if not more.

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From this distant vantage point, the Earth might not seem of particular interest. But for us, it's different. Consider again that dot. That's here, that's home, that's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds.

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Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.
The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand.
It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.

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Disguised base orbiting Mars.

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>>1435159
what the fuck is going on there?

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>>1435405

http://www.spacetelescope.org/static/archives/images/large/heic0601a.jpg

full res, soooo much bigger, 36mb

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Entry to the interior
top Moon, bottom Mars

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"This image cannot be displayed, because of errors."

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>>1440277
This hole, it was made for me

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>>1440344

http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/heic0601a/

maybe save it to a folder, browser can't handle huge images?

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>>1438216
what did you use to shoot this? (telescope?)

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>>1440177
looks like the moon landing was actually faked using pretty crap props.

That's not a theory I entertain, but from that image it's understandable people would think so

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>>1440177
An Astronaut is standing next to or on one of the landing supports, pointing his 70mm Hasselblad upward toward the top of the lunar module, in the direction of the earth.

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In a lot of these images, the lunar module looks rather small for some reason, but trust me, it's not. Perspective is fucked up on the moon. It's an entirely different planet, you see, things don't work the way they do on earth. For a good idea of how large it is, here it is with someone standing directly beside it.

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/images/print/AS11/40/5927.jpg

Issues in images like this are more than enough proof that we've been to the moon. The fact that everything is so fucked up is due to the fact that it's on another planet. It would actually look much less 'fucked up' (more earth-like, more like what you're used to) if it were faked.

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Black hole.

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>>1440615
>Perspective is fucked up on the moon.
Exactly. When faced with 2D (non-stereoscopic images), our brain relies on other hints like vertical position and atmospheric haze to get a grip on distances (and therefore sizes).
On the moon, with no atmosphere, that perception is seriously fucked. The hills that you see in a lot of moon shots look maybe hundreds of meters away, but if you check lunar maps you'll see that they are often dozens of kilometers away.

tl;dr: No atmospheric haze = monkey brains are confused.

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>>1435125

That is not from Mars.

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ITS A UFO IN THE OPS PIC OMG

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>>1440698

Is the land you can see Australia? Weird angle... Earth is upside down.

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>>1440698
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/images/print/AS17/162/24047.jpg
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/images/print/AS17/162/24048.jpg

Imperfections. Happens all of the time.

What's funny about it is that there really is no upside down or right-side up. As a matter of fact, any time you're looking at the earth, you're looking in the direction you traditionally refer to as 'down'. And you're really, really, really high. Actually I'm really really high. And that's beside the point. Anyway, from the perspective of men standing on the surface of and orbiting the moon, it's 'up'.

And I have no fucking idea what land it is really.

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How do we know it is like that, we have never been that far out...

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>>1440878
We have imaged and analyzed many galaxies. Throughout the cosmos, the rules and workings of nature are the same. Therefore, based on what we can observe about other galaxies, we can infer what our own must look like.

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I check almost every day:
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html

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The surface of the sun looks so scary.

I had this dream once that I was floating through space towards the sun, and I couldn't do anything to stop it, obviously. And I was getting closer and closer, and the sun was getting bigger and bigger. I was terrified, getting swallowed by this gigantic ball of "flames" (please, don't be bitch). It got brighter and hotter, and scarier.

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>>1440914
The funny thing is that the exact shape of our galaxy is unknown, as we cannot see the opposite side (the galactic center being in the way). Also, the visible structure of our (and other) galaxies depends on what wavelengths you are looking at. Surprised me when I realized how complex the question is.

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Fucking epic thread guys. Just about worthy of archiving.

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>>1440647

No, planetary nebula. A dying star throwing off its outer layers. You can see some of the shells toward the center of the image.

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large metallic asteroid Lutetia, recently photographed