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They got it right in 1925. Seriously... what the fuck happened?

Pic related...

>> No.1418510

Capitalism and the Great Depression happened.

>> No.1418506

Reagan

>> No.1418521

some of that WWII

>> No.1418529
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1418529

OP here. Its a shame. I think that after WWII and lending billions to Greece and Western Europe we should have been better off than we are now.

>> No.1418534

Seems likely that people traveling on the motor traffic levels would die from excessive levels of carbon monoxide before they could even reach a destination.

>> No.1418544

>>1418510
Define capitalism.

>> No.1418546
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1418546

>Implying there wouldn't be ventilation.

>> No.1418548

>>1418510
>>1418506

These.

>>1418534

Bitches don't know about my catalytic converters.

>> No.1418556

>>1418544
Profit as a motivator
Cost vs benefit
And other assorted bullshit

>> No.1418570

See Japan ->

>> No.1418572

>>1418534
exactly what I was thinking.
Also, crashes would be a nightmare.

>> No.1418580
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1418580

Op here again. I blame pic.

Imagine what we would be like today (in our generation) had it not been for the Christian dark ages.

>> No.1418595

>>1418580
>implying Christianity caused the dark ages

>> No.1418606

>>1418595
>Implying it didn't.

>> No.1418610

>>1418580
I like that pic.

Hallucinogens growing out of hallucinogen.

>> No.1418612

>>1418595
Christianity led to the fall of Rome.

>> No.1418620

>>1418612
Caesar lead to the fall of Rome if i'm not mistaken

>> No.1418630

>>1418606

The fall of Rome and the subsequent power vacuum caused the Dark Ages. The church was only one of many grasping for power, and actually acted as a source of unity between warlords.

So no, Christianity did not cause the dark ages.

>> No.1418636

>>1418612

Christianity almost saved Rome as a national concept for the people to rally under. Look at the Byzantines.

>> No.1418650

how come people always think blimps are really gonna take off

>> No.1418661

>>1418570

This.

If you want to live in a cyberpunkish clusterfuck learn wapanese and go teach english to some gooks.

>> No.1418665

>>1418650

They make more inherent sense than airplanes or especially helicopters.

>> No.1418678

>>1418665

To to mention their efficiency. In the long run, I think the initial investment makes the efficiency of a blimp worth it.

>> No.1418882

I love how this simple, interesting topic eventually degraded into something to do with religion.

/sci/ sucks so much dick.

>> No.1418893

>>1418650

The same people that think space elevators are viable.

IE, stupid people.

>> No.1418903

>>1418893
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/article4799369.ece

>> No.1418908

>>1418903

Lol, here's one now >>1418893

>> No.1418949

>>1418534
I wonder how all those people passing through Channel Tunnel don't suffocate. Oh wait, they invented ventilation.

>> No.1418961

>>1418949

They're also brittish/french. so they have a natural immunity from having their heads up their ass all the time.

>> No.1418979

LOL EVEN with ventilation CO levels must be really high. You would probably require a lot of money to get that right.

Although, this might work if all cars were electric.

>> No.1418982

everything has to be built around existing buildings and the people that live there, that's why something like the image from the OP can't happen.

>> No.1419010

ITT: a good ol' bitchfest on capitalism/religion/government/economics. no factual basis required!

>> No.1419017

>>1418903
Who the fuck wrote that? didn't even mention Tsiolkovsky.

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>>1418665
Maybe in some heavily contrived sense, but a vehicle that makes one trip in the time it takes another to make 5 is not going to be more economical, and no, the supposed fuel savings aren't going to overcome labor, maintenance, and cargo deprecation. Particularly when rail and sea shipping will offer similar shipping time at much lower prices.

>> No.1419051

>>1418580
Oh boy another one of these. Just so you know, history doesn't play out like a Civilization game.

>> No.1419122

>>1418893
TROLOLOLO

>> No.1419167

>>1419051

So you're saying that events would play out differently and that we'd have a much different world?

Because in civilization, things always play out the same way.

>> No.1420648

>>1418949
Do you have any conception of the volume of traffic in a major US city? I assume this pic is loosely based around NYC. That place is polluted enough in the open air. Hell, I can hardly breathe when I'm in the subways and that's just from smelly niggers down there. Your faggy Chunnel is a far cry from a metropolitan city.

There's plenty of other logistical problems here, too. Think about how much weight this would need to hold, with all the buildings, then the cars underneath, then the cars underneath that, all sitting on top of railroads. At rush hour, when both highways are gridlocked, is everything going to hold?

And like someone else mentioned: it's just not feasible when we've already got a significant amount of infrastructure in place. Is this set-up THAT much better that we should completely level NYC (or Chicago or LA or wherever) and start over? Yea right.

>> No.1421164

>>1419051
Liar. Life is just some superhuman's future Civilization game.

>> No.1421203

I see the makings of a Hive right there.

Praise be to the God-Emperor, Citizens!

>> No.1421212

its a dwarf fortress.

>> No.1421239

>>1418498

>Seriously... what the fuck happened?

Airships turned out to be pretty bad inter-city transit because large cities are effectively man-made canyons which can flip an airship vertical with the wind what comes out of it. There are multi-level buildings with multiple functions in the building, go to any office district in America and you'll see them. It would be expensive as dicks to make a quadruple-level city, be impossible to keep crime-free, be ridiculously hard to maintain, and couldn't realistically be applied to any existing city structure. We have spiral escalators and electric trains and freight tubes for that matter, so this magazine got plenty of things right.

>> No.1421266

>>1421203

The Imperium would like to remind you that your life is a meaningless currency which the Emperor may spend at his leisure.

oh lawd, turnin' into a socialism thread

>> No.1421285

Actually this isn't that far off... the only real big differences are that we built roads up rather than down and airships didn't really take off like people predicted.
... unintentional pun!

>> No.1421288

>>1421164

That doesn't even make sense, though. Religions in a city give you Smiles, which make it easier to grow the city to make lots of scientists which in turn gives you more Great Science People.

What you're really construing is that religion is terrible but only if you don't have Caste System yet.

>> No.1421297

underground roads? maybe in 1920 but can you imagine all of the feral gangs of superniggers down there now?

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>>1418498
>spiral escalators

>> No.1421313

>>1421305
funny how i posted this image 2 months ago and since then every1 uses it

>> No.1421319

>>1421313
Funny how I posted that image 3 months ago and you used it afterward.

>> No.1421320

>>1421313
>hey guys i started this
>i started this!! come on guys
>come on look at me i started it i used it first
>;_;

>> No.1421322

>>1421313
faggot detected.

>> No.1421326

I love how OP's pic says
>May solve congestion problems

Pffft. Building a city like that would only invite a larger volume of people creating congestion like we've never seen. Two four lane highways and public mass transit is far too little to support that.

>> No.1421327

>>1421305
thats actually a good idea think about how much space a linear escalator takes up, and spiral ones could hold more people and be much more efficient.

Ima patent it.

>> No.1421331

>>1421327 see >>1421239
>We have spiral escalators and electric trains and freight tubes for that matter
>We have spiral escalators.

>> No.1421338

>>1421320
>>1421313
Yes hopefully this experience teaches him why we post as anonymous. Otherwise, we wind up all talking about each other for mutual ego gratification aka circle-jerk.

>> No.1423002

>Ima patent it.

http://www.mitsubishi-elevator.com/products/basic/escalators/spiral_es/index.html

>> No.1423014

here's a little protip for you: cities aren't built by one architect/group (no matter how delusional he/they are), they are constant places of habitation for centuries and can only be modified bit by bit

five layers of transport, are you shitting me?

>> No.1423033

Intellectual property rights have the power to stop any and all technological innovation whenever it wants to for the sake of short term economic gain.
The people of 1925 did not know the insanity of today.

>> No.1423051

>>1418498
>absurd four-tiered infrastructure can be easily built underneath every major city for free!

>> No.1423060

>>1421313
>>1421319
Why are kids/retards like you on /sci/? It's not like you own that image, nobody is making money/fame off of it.
You should be happy seeing people use an image you found and posted, it means they like it.
sage because I am not contributing anything to the thread.

>> No.1423090

>>1418595
are you fucking retarded?
it obviously did

>> No.1423108

Okay, think about how you would technically accomplish this.

You could either build an entirely new city or retrofit an existing one. New cities are tremendously expensive and there is no guarantee it would generate commerce and thus return on the investment so it is difficult to get one going. To retrofit you would need to either dig down which is horrendously expensive or you could build up which is equally expensive and a logistics nightmare.

Look at the costs and delays involved with the Big Dig in Boston MA. Multiply that by an order of magnitude or two and then by every city on Earth. Yeah, kinda expensive.

So in the end it would be convenient to have cities designed this way but just too expensive to justify the costs. If you could prove to a municipal or commerce authority that they would make a substantial return on investment (due to increased commerce) you might get a couple case studies built but don't hold your breath for a large scale project.