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1390452 No.1390452 [Reply] [Original]

When are we going to send a submarine to Europa?

>> No.1390458

When are we going to turn Jupiter into a sun?

>> No.1390460

When will Eta Carinae explode?

>> No.1390461

tomorrow.

don't forget to watch TV : it will be the first fly of a U-boot !

>> No.1390477

ESA was going to do it in 2012 but then america decided rolling back banking regulations was a SWELL idea and pretty much fucked up the entire world for 5 years.

THANKS BUSH ADMINISTRATION

>> No.1390496

In all cases I'm pretty sure Europa's ocean is full of fail. or of sponge bob, but that's the same.

>> No.1390541

test

>> No.1390548

>>1390496
It was noted that Europa's interactions with Jupiter should oxygenate the water underneath the upper-crust enough to facilitate complex lifeforms, even things as large as fish. I have much doubt that Europa's ocean is full of fail (although there may be a bit of spongebob)

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>>1390477
>BUSH ADMINISTRATION
>Not blaming Bush directly
>Actually has somewhat of an idea of wtf goes on

>> No.1390566

when are we going to turn ice cream into money?

>> No.1390575

>>1390548
Hummm, I dunno. I don't believe life appears in oceans but rather on the coastline (sea and crust interface)

>> No.1390576

>>1390548
>Life on other planets
HNNNNNNNNNNG

>> No.1390585

I lol'd.

>> No.1390591

I wonder if the fish can talk

>> No.1390593
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1390593

ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS EXCEPT EUROPA
ATTEMPT NO LANDINGS THERE

>> No.1390602

>>1390593
Monolith : Allahu Ackbar !

>> No.1390611

See, this shit is way more exciting and worth the money than sending humans to Mars.

>> No.1390617

>>1390611
but it's impossible with actual tech mediums

>> No.1390629

>>1390611
Some dude invented an autonomous robot fully capable of navigating the Europan sub-surface ocean in 2007.

>> No.1390635

>>1390575
Life appears abundantly in oceans and deep-water, wtf are you talking about.

>> No.1390637

Europa ocean is expected to be fucking deep... pressure !

also, how to control it like a rover whereas it's fucking far away... ?

>> No.1390648
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1390648

>>1390617

Actual tech mediums?

>> No.1390658

fuckin' ENDURANCE

how does it work?

>> No.1390660

>>1390635
there is life here,ok. But we don't really know where life appears FIRST, I mean proto cells and ARN wich then evolved and adapted to some other envirronement.

>> No.1390669

>>1390648
sorry... currrent technology.
my english is fucking tired !

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>>1390452
2020 hopefully.

NASA, JAXA, ESA, and Roscosmos, are all thinking of sending independent probes to the Jupiter system on a FIRE EVERYTHING WE'VE GOT MISSION.

NASA's sending the Jupiter Europa Orbiter, which if things work out right will carry a cryobot and submarine to punch through the ice. Maybe.

ESA's sending the Jupiter Ganymeade Orbiter to investigate Ganymeade and Callisto. Callisto might have an ocean on it.

JAXA's sending a probe to investigate Jupiter's magnetosphere.

And Russia might send an independent Europa lander to do surface studies which would rely on the other probes to send data back.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_Jupiter_System_Mission

>> No.1390672

>>1390637
But it has substantially less gravity than the earth.

>> No.1390682

>>1390671
ANd we will have a lunar base on the moon... you know, it's just communication and budget's concerns

>> No.1390680

>>1390671
I WANT IT AND I WANT IT NOW

>> No.1390702

>>1390672
we are talking about an ocean of 150 km deep under a crust of ice of 10 to 30 km.... deeper place on earth is 11.2 km ....

>> No.1390704

>>1390682
>>1390671
Almost forgot, if this one senator passes a bill that forces NASA to reorientate everything to building heavy lift rockets this probably won't happen.

>> No.1390706

>>1390682
That's one of the good things about the senatorial rollback on some of Obama's plans: developing a super-heavy launch vehicle immediately was a good idea, as well insisting some sort of Lunar presences be added to the plan.

>> No.1390707

This is what pisses me off so much; we're so concerned with matters here on Earth that we don't realize that the space program is the single most important thing we could even invest in.

>> No.1390715

>>1390707
This is why I'm hoping the commercial space race takes off the way it appears to be ATM.

>> No.1390738

>>1390707
money from army, wall street's traders, golden parachutes, lobbies, corruption etcetc.... we can dream !

>> No.1390743

>>1390715
but they won't go in scientific mission... they just want money, they don't care about science !

>> No.1390746

>>1390680
Then find a way to completely sterilize a robot submarine and cryobot. And by sterilize, I mean completely remove all traces of life from earth. All of it.

>> No.1390751

>>1390743
That's why we let the commercial industry build quality products for science teams to use instead of funding everything from government directly.

>> No.1390781

>>1390751
but without government wish... no pure research investment.

>> No.1390777

>>1390751
but where does the money the scientists use to buy things come from? That's right the government, cause companies don't fund basic research.

>> No.1390861

why are we worrying about people UP HERE when we have people who are starving and poor DOWN HERE

link unrelated: http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=1305

On an unrelateder note: FUKKIN' COMPUTERS, HOW DO THEY WORK? oh ya we have those because of the moon landing.

But seriously, who wouldn't rather live in an underdeveloped, under-researched, but fair, society?

>> No.1390875

>>1390861
>>1390861
man, we spend so much more money for stupid things like new bombs, football, tvshows etc that for research.

and new technologies can contribute to emancipate (good word ?) people

>> No.1390877

NO SPESS MISHUNS UNTIL THE MUSLIMS FEEL GOOD ABOUT THEMSELVES

>> No.1390977

why spend so little as 2 percent on research? is it all for pretentious stupid reasons, or is there ANY logic behind putting such a small amount into it?

>> No.1390993

>>1390977
Because we need more money to murder brown people.

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>> No.1391023

>>1391013
more like you will never leave this planet.

>> No.1391034

Not soon enough. But actually, it'd probably be slightly more feasible to send some kind of ice-capable rover to check the cracks where fresher water has frozen; there might be fossils/creatures frozen into the ice that could be easily detected without having to drill through the ice.

>> No.1391046

>>1390593

I lol'd, nice reference

>> No.1391151

>>1390977
a government that is swayed by the popular thoughts of scientific endeavors rather then logical. Thats your answer. Even if finding life on Europa is more feasible then on Mars , Popular opinion always wins out.

>> No.1391162

>>1390658
FUCKING MIRACLES