All we need to do is convince congress to configure NASA's budget as a percentage of annual spending rather than a fixed number. Even as low as .5% would allow us to conquer the moon and the asteroid belt in under a decade.

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All we need to do is convince congress to configure NASA's budget as a percentage of annual spending rather than a fixed number. Even as low as .5% would allow us to conquer the moon and the asteroid belt in under a decade.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:30:25 2010 No.1390010 Quick, /sci/ find a polisci major and get them on this! It may be the only useful thing they will ever do!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:34:25 2010 No.1390023 People have been saying this for years, but nothing's come of it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:34:25 2010 No.1390025 10% of the budget would let us fuck up venus in so many ways

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:37:25 2010 No.1390036 And then we spend all of it turning Jupiter into a second sun.

Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:37:25 2010 No.1390037

>>1390025
Yes, but even at the height of the space race the budget didn't exceed 5%.

If you're going to push for a percent, aim for something in the 0.5-1% range. It'd be difficult to push for but at least it's something realistic. It'd also increase the current NASA budget five fold.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:38:25 2010 No.1390040 >>1390036 I'm actually not sure that's possible.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:39:25 2010 No.1390046 File: 57 KB, 580x378, March, 1990 - Belgium.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] We can already go to other solar systems...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:39:25 2010 No.1390048 >>1390040 If you collided a dozen or so Jupiters with eachother, the pressure would ignite nuclear fusion, so yeah.

Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:40:25 2010 No.1390050

>>1390023
The reason it hasn't worked yet is purely attributable to our lack of initiative and willpower. We need a grassroots movement. Figures, calculations and reason alone won't convince the government to do a dman thing; they need to see public involvement before they'll spend money on something other than apache helicopters and a set of solid gold truck-nuts for every aircraft carrier. The only way to move a politician is to threaten their electability.

So, how do we make space an important issue in the sphere of public interest?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:40:25 2010 No.1390052 >>1390048 But where are we going to find that many planets with the exact, or near-exact characteristics of Jupiter. More importantly, HOW DO WE MAKE THEM COLLIDE?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:40:25 2010 No.1390054 >>1390046 Out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:42:25 2010 No.1390062 >>1390052 We pull them with magnets.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:42:25 2010 No.1390065 >>1390052 yeah there isn't even enough mass in the entire solar system for that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:42:25 2010 No.1390068 >>1390052 Where do we find them? IN SPACE, DURR. Faggat.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:42:25 2010 No.1390070 >>1390023 Well then now's the time to pump up the pressure.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:43:25 2010 No.1390074 but really, we all know that the sun will engulf us one day. Knowing that, is there really anything more important than space exploration? I thought so. Now lets blow up Neptune. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:44:25 2010 No.1390079 >>1390052 Or we could just trap Jupiter in an enormous metal sphere, then continuously increase the pressure and heat inside said sphere. If the sphere melts, then that means we now have two suns.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:45:25 2010 No.1390085 >>1390079 There isn't enough mass in the solar system to do that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:46:25 2010 No.1390090 >>1390079 Yeah, and where do you suppose we get all this metal? And more importantly, what metal do you think will actually stop a fucking planet dead in its tracks?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:46:25 2010 No.1390091 >>1390079 >Implying this is a feasibul solution

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:46:25 2010 No.1390092 >>1390085 then we expand. WE SHALL ELIMINATE THE OTHER SOLAR SYSTEMS

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:46:25 2010 No.1390094 >>1390079 Well gee it's not like Jupiter's orbit would cause it to break through the metal or anything.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:47:24 2010 No.1390098 >>1390079 We would thousands and thousands of planets to produce all that metal. Provide you mean to build a sphere that will ACTUALLY hold Jupiter

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:47:25 2010 No.1390095 God i miss the cold war.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:47:25 2010 No.1390097 >>1390095 Not really.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:48:25 2010 No.1390099 >>1390097 Think of the progress! Even small things like radiation protection is going to help us out there man.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:50:25 2010 No.1390108 >>1390079 We would need thousands and thousands of planets to produce all that metal. Provide you mean to build a sphere that will ACTUALLY hold Jupiter

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:50:25 2010 No.1390112 This is exactly why such a funding increase will never happen. In less than a dozen posts the focus of this thread has shifted from the NASA budget to retarded scifi plans to 'trap' Jupiter and turn it into a sun.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:51:25 2010 No.1390116 >>1390108 And even still, it'd take hundreds, maybe even thousands of years to ramp up the pressure and temperature to points that could cause nuclear fusion. Colliding 12 Jupiters is actually MORE feasible at this point

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:52:25 2010 No.1390125 im confused... why do we need two suns?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:52:25 2010 No.1390126 >>1390112 Not to mention, Earth would either be incinerated, or torn in half by the heat and gravity of both suns

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:53:25 2010 No.1390134 >>1390125 So that there will never ever be night again. Besides, it would look pretty damn beautiful, too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:54:25 2010 No.1390140 >>1390125 It would be nice to look at. There, I said it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:55:25 2010 No.1390147 >>1390134 >>1390140 I can agree with that. You know we need to live in one those systems with two stars and a tiny dwarf in the middle of them, that shit looks bad ass.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:56:25 2010 No.1390150 >>1390036 >>1390040 >>1390048 >>1390052 >>1390062 >>1390065 >>1390068 >>1390079 >>1390085 >>1390090 >>1390091 >>1390092 >>1390094 >>1390108 >>1390112 >>1390116 >>1390125 >>1390126 >>1390134 >>1390140 This is why we can't have nice things.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:56:25 2010 No.1390152 >>1390112 Nobody said we had to include retarded sci-fi plots in our lobbying proposals.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:57:25 2010 No.1390158 >>1390150 Hey, fuck you buddy, do you want to have to deal with shit like nighttime and winter all the time for the rest of your life? Didn't think so, everyone hates that shit, so we'll get rid of it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:58:25 2010 No.1390163 Question. If we actually DID make this work, which star would Earth orbit, Sol due to it's mass, or Jupiter due to it's proximity?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:58:25 2010 No.1390167 >>1390163 It'd probably not orbit at all, and just kinda float back and forth inbetween the two.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 20:59:25 2010 No.1390171 >>1390163 It would be torn in half. This is why we can't do this shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:00:25 2010 No.1390177 >>1390163 Well let's see, it would probably not orbit either of them, it would be sucked straight into Jupiter, never to be seen again. I mean, Jupiter already has hurricanes that eat planets. Turning it into a sun is just ensuring the kill.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:01:25 2010 No.1390181 >>1390177 >hurricanes that eat planets Elaborate.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:02:25 2010 No.1390191 >>1390181 Great. Red. Storm. It could eat Earth 6 times over.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:03:25 2010 No.1390195 jesus, you people need to go back and learn gravity again.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:04:25 2010 No.1390202 >>1390195 Do I look like I have the word 'niggracious cock' tatooed on my vagina?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:04:25 2010 No.1390204 >>1390150 Seriously, shut the fuck up about Jupiter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:05:25 2010 No.1390208 >>1390191 what are you smoking.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:05:25 2010 No.1390212 Why would we want to turn Jupiter into a supermassive entity that could melt us? Jupiter has oceans full of nothing but crisp, refreshing soda, why don't we just drink it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:07:25 2010 No.1390227 >>1390212 If we harvested all of it, and brought it to Earth, we would never have to worry about hunger.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:08:25 2010 No.1390232 >>1390227 Soda is a liquid. We'd never have to worry about thirst, but hunger is still a problem.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:10:25 2010 No.1390243 >>1390208 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Jupiter#Great_Red_Spot

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:11:25 2010 No.1390248 >>1390243 That is not six times the size of the Earth.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:11:25 2010 No.1390254 >>1390243 I know what that storm is, but how does it destroy planets?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:12:25 2010 No.1390263 >>1390248 Of course not, but it does have the FORCE to consume six Earth-sized planets.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:13:25 2010 No.1390271 >>1390254 If you put a planet inside the storm, and tried to pull it back out, what kind of condition do you think that planet would be in?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:13:25 2010 No.1390275 >>1390263 I doubt that, i bet it would be destroyed by one planet the size of earth.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:15:25 2010 No.1390286 i want them to put more research in the sounds of planets. you know the radio waves. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3fqE01YYWs That shit is fucking beautiful

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:15:25 2010 No.1390289 >>1390271 All life on it would be eviscerated, but the planet itself would probably be fine.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:16:25 2010 No.1390290 >>1390271 I changed my mind, one planet would fuck the shit out of that storm. the magnetic field alone would stop the storm from even existing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:18:25 2010 No.1390303 >>1390289 And the storm would be shredded.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:20:25 2010 No.1390311 I still suggest we turn Jupiter into a sun.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:21:25 2010 No.1390318 >>1390311 I think we already explained why that would never work. It would be one of the most spectacular sights ever. But it would never work.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:22:25 2010 No.1390320 >>1390318 Why?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:22:25 2010 No.1390327 >>1390320 We would die, that's why. We would all just die.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:30:25 2010 No.1390363 >>1390327 How?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:32:25 2010 No.1390370 File: 22 KB, 501x288, 1276560120302.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1390208

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:33:25 2010 No.1390372 >>1390158 Why the fuck would you want to get rid of the night? You'd rather only be able to see two stars instead of fucking trillions? And what's wrong with winter? Too cold for your pansy ass?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:33:25 2010 No.1390374 >>1390363 Well gee, maybe the 488th degree burns.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:36:25 2010 No.1390381 >>1390374 From what, the oceans of delicious soda?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:36:25 2010 No.1390384 >>1390381 MAYBE YOU KNOW, THE NUCLEAR FUSION BOILING THE OCEANS WHICH ARE ACTUALLY MADE OF A METALLIC HELIUM SLUSH?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:37:25 2010 No.1390388 >>1390384 >>1390381 That implies that the people in charge of turning Jupiter into a sun would be in range of the heat radiation of said oceans.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:43:25 2010 No.1390423 what the fuck is going on here!?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:47:25 2010 No.1390439 >>1390423 We're going to turn Jupiter into a sun.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:49:25 2010 No.1390442 >>1390423 A thread asks /sci/ how we might influence congress or even local governments to alter the way NASA is funded. /sci/ goes full retard.

Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:49:25 2010 No.1390445

meh, NASA's ok, but a 5-10% general research budget would be even better. Instead of focusing on space only, how about medicine, computer science, all physics, and everything else. We spend 68 billion on research, which is a disappointing pocket-sized amount for the federal government.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:53:25 2010 No.1390463 >>1390439 Why

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:53:25 2010 No.1390465 >>1390463 Because

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:54:25 2010 No.1390468 >>1390445 you mean 68 billion in research that isn't geared toward blowing up foreigners more efficiently.

Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:56:25 2010 No.1390479

>>1390442
There's a reason only 2 or 3 of the simple but awesome projects sci has tried to start have actually progressed (Rhizome and the Open Space project) - the rest get buried by retards.

Still, a proper space lobby is a good idea. Let's pitch some (realistic) suggestions for a platform.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:56:25 2010 No.1390483 >>1390445 There is absolutely no reason we couldn't do this too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:57:31 2010 No.1390490 >>1389995 stop ＦuｃｋINg_ａＴＴＡＣkｉｎG WWＷ.AｎｏLａWＬtalＫ.sｅ_ｒＥＰＬAＣe lＡＷL_ｗＩTh Ｎ b fb eqnl fprw dojrhsdozli ym tmcs

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:58:25 2010 No.1390497 >>1390158 I like winter and night time so fuck two suns.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 21:59:25 2010 No.1390502 >>1390479 Why is having a second sun a bad idea, huh?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 22:01:25 2010 No.1390516 Well, all the goverment wants to do with NASA is to make Muslims feel special so...

Anonymous Mon Jul 12 22:01:25 2010 No.1390517

>>1390479
Start by contacting congressmen who's districts are actively involved in the space industry. None of said congress people know much about it themselves, but since space is a pretty big subject for them to tackle during elections, they'll probably be the most likely officials to actually lend you an ear.

As far as policy proposals go, mentioning the sheer bounty of raw materials sitting in space, unused, couldn't hurt. Bringing up the moon's abundance of He3 and posing it as a potential energy source wouldn't be a bad place to start either, but that might be too long term for a politician to consider.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 22:03:25 2010 No.1390527 >>1390516 Involving Muslims in space exploration as an extension of good will isn't a BAD idea, necessarily, but I don't really understand why NASA was the first administration Obama thought of when looking for a diplomatic bridge with the middle-east.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 22:03:25 2010 No.1390534 I suggest we start harvesting He11 Tons of it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 22:04:25 2010 No.1390539 >>1390534 Helium with an atomic mass of 11? There's no way it would be stable, it would decay to 7 within seconds.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 22:04:25 2010 No.1390540 >>1390534 Helium can't go that high, buddy. 8's the max.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 22:06:25 2010 No.1390550 >>1390534 Helium's only stable isotopes are 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, and 8

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 22:07:25 2010 No.1390558 >>1390550 >1 >2 >not critical

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 22:07:25 2010 No.1390561 >>1390550 Just 3 and 4. Helium-1 doesn't even make sense.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 22:08:25 2010 No.1390563 >1390527 I agree. Also, the government needs to realize if we 'conquer' these far away places, in the name of the U.S.A., we would be THE most powerful nation and practically control everything, which could be good and bad.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 22:09:25 2010 No.1390573 >>1390550 >1He I'd like to see you try that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 22:10:25 2010 No.1390580 >>1390550 >1, 2, 6, 8 BULLSHIT

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 22:11:25 2010 No.1390587 H2+ ion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 22:11:25 2010 No.1390588 File: 46 KB, 600x450, 1272082906677.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1390550 >1

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 22:13:25 2010 No.1390601 File: 42 KB, 433x651, 1277018771721.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1390550 >He-1

Anonymous Mon Jul 12 22:15:25 2010 No.1390618

>>1390563
Yeah, it should help our case by quite a bit if we note how space supremacy would put the United States at the forefront of booming new industry and give it complete control over resources that may become vital very soon. having that infrastructure in place before anyone else would basically guarantee American dominance in the market.

Anonymous Mon Jul 12 22:15:25 2010 No.1390619

>>1390445
>>1390483
Reason #1, it's completely realistic. You're talking about convincing Congress to shift 175-350 BILLION dollars a year into 'general research'. That's the equivalent of half the military budget.
>>1390479
1 - NASA needs a serious, long term commitment when it comes to funding. The budget is to be fixed at 1% of the US Federal Budget.
2 - NASA's agenda and budget have been held hostage by 4 decades of uncommitted presidential administrations and a Congresses. NASA's goals and the division of its allotted budget should to be determined by a panel of NASA engineers and scientists, not bureaucrats and treasurers.

Those sound good for starters.

>>1390516
>>1390527
See >>1389909

>>	galileo Mon Jul 12 22:16:25 2010 No.1390623 >>1390046 can you elaborate?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 22:19:25 2010 No.1390644 File: 169 KB, 446x358, helium.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 22:21:25 2010 No.1390654 >>1390644 They would destroy everything. You just can't fuse two critically unstable masses like that without shit dying.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 22:22:25 2010 No.1390659 it's Helium 3 guiz

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 22:23:25 2010 No.1390670 >>1390619 Sounds good. How do you convince a senator to siphon some of the money out of dead-end DARPA projects into NASA?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 22:27:25 2010 No.1390691 SO. Who wants to pitch in money to build a ring of BA-330 inflatable space habitats to form the first Space Station with artificial gravity?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 22:31:25 2010 No.1390722 >>1390691 This will happen within 10 years, I'm sure of it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 22:36:25 2010 No.1390769 >>1390722 Hopefully.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 22:36:25 2010 No.1390772 Rather than try pitching what NASA should do, we should focus on ensuring that they have a stable and substantial economic framework to do whatever they want.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 22:40:25 2010 No.1390795 omg you read my mind

Anonymous Mon Jul 12 22:44:25 2010 No.1390807

>>1389996

Our entire existence is based upon our innate desire to explore, conquer and expand to new lands. The immediate solar system is the next step. What is more worth while than colonizing the moon, or Mars? Nothing on Earth itself. Expanding, growing and learning as a species is our only purpose here. People willing to spend billions a year to run around in the desert killing Sandniggers, instead of furthering our base "cause" of exploration are an insult to our existence.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 22:44:25 2010 No.1390809 Bump for space lobby discussion

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 22:46:25 2010 No.1390818 >>1390807 Even just a sizable lunar colony would be a gigantic fucking step forward for human kind. Technologically and economically.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 22:46:25 2010 No.1390819 >>1390691 >artificial gravity how?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 22:48:25 2010 No.1390830 >>1389996 >Even as low as .5% would allow us to conquer the moon and the asteroid belt in under a decade. 2010 budget - ~$3.5t .5% - $17.5b 2010 NASA budget - $18.9 Maybe rethink that a bit OP, more in the 1% neighborhood perhaps.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 22:51:25 2010 No.1390840 >>1390819 centrifugal force

Anonymous Mon Jul 12 22:55:25 2010 No.1390850

>>1390807
If something like a space lobby were to ever work, it can't be about all that. It has to be simple and professional, it can't fly off on tangents like that... even if they do make complete and rational sense. There's a reason that even the most sensible libertarian or progressive suggestions never get taken seriously - because the people pitching them never stay on point.

A space lobby needs to keep it's platform simple and focused so it can actually get some of the shit it proposes done.

>>	StormTroll !GnYU8vo7lA Mon Jul 12 22:56:25 2010 No.1390859 NASA is irrelevant now to putting humans in space. We have now seen the REAL beginning of the private space industry. A private corporation will create the first lunar colony.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 23:03:25 2010 No.1390886 >>1390819 >>1390819 >>1390819 Don't you watch Dragonball Z? Its real. Follow it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 23:03:25 2010 No.1390889 >>1390819 By spinning. Duh.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 23:06:25 2010 No.1390900 File: 17 KB, 450x409, titan_cassini_portal.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Titan, it is made out of oil! that is how you get people interested in space travel.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 23:11:25 2010 No.1390935 >>1390830 >2010 NASA budget - $18.9 No wonder they can't even afford to go to the ISS anymore. I make more then their annual budget in less than 2 hours.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 23:12:25 2010 No.1390938 >>1390900 >Oil and potentially living organisms

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 23:12:25 2010 No.1390940 >>1390935 18.9 billion smartass

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 23:12:25 2010 No.1390941 let's create the science political party! Shift all government spending to research! No more retarded-ass wars overseas and communist social agendas!

Anonymous Mon Jul 12 23:16:25 2010 No.1390970

>>1390941
Unless you have support on the same scale as the Civil Rights movement (which we won't get), trying to do to much at once will only end in miserable failure. The key is working to make small, but significant changes over time. A little bit bigger budget here, a little change in goals or organization there. Over a few years those little changes can add up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 23:19:25 2010 No.1390988 I want to live in a Bernal cylinder RIGHT NOW.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 23:21:25 2010 No.1391004 >>1390935 derp herp derp derpa derp

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 23:23:25 2010 No.1391011 >>1390938 but it is the oil that will get their attention and money

Anonymous Mon Jul 12 23:27:25 2010 No.1391039
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> Thread on convincing Congress to improve NASA budget.
> 120+ responses
> Only 20 of them have anything to do with NASA or Congress.

Dammit sci... you should be better than this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 23:40:25 2010 No.1391111 Once again the UK is ahead of the game. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/7636158/General-Election-2010-why-we-need-the-Science-Party.html

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 23:47:25 2010 No.1391182 I'm already IN space.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 00:01:25 2010 No.1391263 sigh

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 00:14:25 2010 No.1391326 >conquer the moon we are not allowed on the moon dumbass. there's alien bases there with intergalactic sign posts and everything.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 00:15:25 2010 No.1391333 >>1391039 >>1391039 >>1391039 have you not taken into account the amount of newfags and general retards from /b/ and other boards? come on man. this isn't difficult you know the newfags took this website by storm steadily over time

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 00:16:25 2010 No.1391337 >>1391333 >>1391333 also, you know a decent or intelligent response is a dime in a dozen here. even more so than it used to be, and nice trips, in accordance with the cancer

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 00:17:25 2010 No.1391341 File: 22 KB, 321x267, trollface.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1391337 hai gaise, i'm L33T!!11 lol.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 00:20:25 2010 No.1391360 >>1391341 no moar responses fags? I just got a good get and no one is responding to the topic, I'M SO FUCKING BORED /sci/ you never have good threads

>>	Master Boot Record !locLzhA47E Tue Jul 13 00:29:25 2010 No.1391430 >>1391360 >>1391341 >>1391341 >>1391337 >>1391333 >>1391326 >>1391039 ITT Underage B&

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 00:30:25 2010 No.1391443 >>1390050 DO YOU WANT TO BE A SPACE CAPTAIN

Anonymous Tue Jul 13 00:55:25 2010 No.1391568

>>1390619
>The budget is to be fixed at 1% of the US Federal Budget.
That's sounds good, even 1% would double NASA's budget.
>NASA's goals and the division of its allotted budget should to be determined by a panel of NASA engineers and scientists, not bureaucrats and treasurers.
A good idea but it'd be a lot harder to sell.
>>1391111
Forming a political party focused on science advocacy is certainly worth discussing/exploring. Fuck, if the pirate party can get a seat in the EU parliament, an American science party should at least be able to manage a few state-level senate seats.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 01:35:25 2010 No.1391790 JOVIAN PHYSICS

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 01:37:25 2010 No.1391806 >Helium 1

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 01:53:25 2010 No.1391892 get /b/ involved. its the only way anything good would ever get done

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 01:55:25 2010 No.1391911 >> we can already go to other solar systems. yea like and after we get there we can do nothing but look at it for like 1 hour before the satelite goes offline or some shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 01:57:25 2010 No.1391925 File: 41 KB, 500x334, 876i7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >implying NASA doesn't exist only as an attempt to one-up the joseinskys

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 01:59:25 2010 No.1391937 we can't go to other solar systems. it would take 1 year at light speed to get to the closest star, imagine how long it would take at our speeds

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 02:00:25 2010 No.1391947 i didnt say we could but apparently a anon before me said we could

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 02:00:25 2010 No.1391952 >>1391937 >>Implying closest star is 1 light year away

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Anonymous Tue Jul 13 02:02:25 2010 No.1391966

>>1391568
Note: In order to get a party on the ballot in most states, you need to file a petition and get signatures from a few thousand eligible voters. To get on the ballot in New York for example, you need at least 15,000 signatures from eligible voters, at least 100 from each district.

Anonymous Tue Jul 13 02:06:25 2010 No.1391995

>>1391952
>>1391937
yeah your right. my bad its 4 light years away. but still, it backs up my point. and i wasnt implying OP said this. i support OP's idea to the fullest. but really, get /b/ in on this. if they back us up i'm sure some of them have skills that would greatly benefit this

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 02:14:25 2010 No.1392057 File: 59 KB, 778x583, derpgrad.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm an undergrad and what is this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 02:18:25 2010 No.1392076 >>1392057 we're discussing a way to get more funding for space programs

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 02:21:25 2010 No.1392094 >>1392076 let's rob the moon of all it's cheese and gold! then we'll have the money

Anonymous Tue Jul 13 02:21:25 2010 No.1392098
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The U.S. just needs to consider settling and mining the moon as a vital economic objective, so that military money can be used. How much is known about the mineral composition of the moon?

Anonymous Tue Jul 13 02:24:25 2010 No.1392115

The requirements for getting onto the ballot varies a lot from state to state. Some require that you only get signatures on a petition, some require you to have a candidate, some don't, some require you to hold nomination conventions, some don't, and even if you do get on the ballot some don't recognize your party officially unless you get a percent of the vote.

Still, it sounds like something that might be worth looking into.

>I'm anon, and I approved this message.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 02:26:25 2010 No.1392122 http://www.thepetitionsite.com/create.html#how-do-i-create-a-petition we need some writefags in this bitch. my skills of eloquence and persuasion are on the order of 0

Anonymous Tue Jul 13 02:29:25 2010 No.1392146

there just isnt enough interest for space exploration over a major part of the population. its seen as geeky. star trek accomplished that for us. "herp derp warp 7 ENGAGE" there needs to be lots of high quality videos about space travel thats actually interesting and will get people interested. we need people who can do that and have interest in space travel. unfortunately there arent many of those people :(

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 02:29:25 2010 No.1392147 The current NASA budget is already 0.52% of the federal budget.

Anonymous Tue Jul 13 02:30:25 2010 No.1392156

Important if people go through with this.
'Online petitions' =/= Real petitions
If you want to pull this shit off you need real people going out and collecting real signatures. Despite what some people might claim, online petitions have absolutely ZERO legitimacy when it comes to anything remotely important.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 02:31:25 2010 No.1392161 >>1392146 Some people suggested that rather than form a party, NASA supporters should form a lobby

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 02:32:25 2010 No.1392176 >>1392147 /thread

Anonymous Tue Jul 13 02:33:25 2010 No.1392180

1. Send probes out to collect information on different objects in solar system
2. Find an alternative fuel source on either: moon, planet, or asteroid(s).
3. Create and increase subsidies to private corporations to enhance space travel.
4. Once space travel and colonization has been established, give incentives for people to move to Mars or satellites of planets.
5. Make contact with the 7th kind
6. Start intergalactic war with xenon
7. Build outer defense ring around Mars
8. Find jump gate beyond Pluto and reverse engineer the technology.
9. Jump to other gates around the universe and begin colonization.
10. Run into some miserable planet thats all blue and makes you want to puke, planet is inhabited by blue cat like things.
11. Release information that this planet is now furry paradise
12. Send all furry loving people there
13. Once all furrys have landed on planet, NUKE IT
???

Profit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 02:38:25 2010 No.1392213 >>1392176 The OP probably meant 5%

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 03:09:25 2010 No.1392383 File: 44 KB, 351x440, five star post.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1392180

Anonymous Tue Jul 13 03:11:25 2010 No.1392395
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>>1392180
this
>10. Run into some miserable planet thats all blue and makes you want to puke, planet is inhabited by blue cat like things.
>11. Release information that this planet is now furry paradise
>12. Send all furry loving people there
>13. Once all furrys have landed on planet, NUKE IT

god wills it.

Anonymous Tue Jul 13 04:29:25 2010 No.1392809

A science advocacy party/lobby could do a lot towards improving things in the US... it can only be a step up from leaving decisions on science and technology to law and poli sci majors.
(excluding anylaw or poli sci majors who would like to help if something like this ever gets off the ground)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 10:11:25 2010 No.1394104 bump

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 11:37:25 2010 No.1394436 >>1392098 A lot. The moon is rife with riches, yo.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 11:52:25 2010 No.1394509 So what would be the platform/goals of a science lobby then? (by which I mean realistic stuff not retarded ideas like 'herp cut the entire defense budget to fund research projects derp')

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 11:59:25 2010 No.1394536 >>1394509 Goal: Set NASA's budget to 1-1.5% of the national budget, reduce the time frame of current projects to within a decade to ensure that they actually happen.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 12:12:25 2010 No.1394561 >>1394536 sounds good... should it limit to the space program or expand into other fields?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 14:48:25 2010 No.1395359 bump

Anonymous Tue Jul 13 14:58:25 2010 No.1395406

Let's not focus on the retarded hijacking of this thread for a second and think about why lobbying for the Nasa right now wouldn't work:

- Half of the population will whine about "we're going to pay more taxes for useless shit". It took us 200 years to get a decent healthcare for this shitty argument only.

-The other half of the population, you know, the newborn hippie greenfucktard who are right now doing even WORSE than the born again christian bigots. Because "You know we've already tainted Gaia, we must not anger great nature by going to space." and shit like that.

Also, enjoy your Obongo.

Anonymous Tue Jul 13 15:10:25 2010 No.1395486
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I think NASA is finished!

Roskosmos, ESA, JAXA, Chinese, Indian, Iranian, private spaceflights will be cheaper than NASA!

The USAAF has 8 times the budget of NASA, it wouldn't surprise me if the air force has space-flight capability but remains classified for national security reasons.

Listen to Obamas April speech, he says he will launch the orion capsule, just not on Ares.

And he's giving NASA money, but for deep space propulsion (VASIMIR a likely candidate), a field most of the other fledgling space companies/nations aren't doing.

Not only that, but within a decade, Russia will launch Angara, 50 tonnes to orbit easy and they will work on a 100 tonne to LEO model shortly after.

Assuming this is the case, NASA don't need to be worried with getting to space, their main concern is manned crewed missions beyond LEO, after all they are the only body ever to have successfully done it (Apollos 8,10,11,12,13*,14,15,16,17)

He's smart, his vision might just secure mankind interplanetary travel.

Imagine taking a snapshot in Mars orbit stood on the Phobos anomaly

Anonymous Tue Jul 13 17:00:25 2010 No.1396287

>>1395406
Defeatist

>>1395486
1. ... what?
2. China will likely abandon it's space program at the first speed bump... like it did the last two times. India and Iran? ... oh wait you're serious, let me laugh harder!
3. The Angara, assuming all eight models could actually be developed within a decade on an annual budget of $2 billion, would only lift a max of 40 tons... not 100.
4. >NASA doesn't need to worry about getting into space, just about getting into space
5. ^ Seriously, what?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 18:17:25 2010 No.1396685 File: 71 KB, 800x404, Phobos-inside.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Phobos anomaly

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 19:20:25 2010 No.1397061 >>1396685 How about pitching ideas that can be realistically accomplished within the next 100 years instead?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 19:26:25 2010 No.1397103 >>1395486 I don't have an issue with Obama's proposals other than the the ridiculously long timescale he wants to implement. Everything he proposed could be done within 10 years.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 19:30:25 2010 No.1397139 >>1396685 I see that image, and all I notice is the fucking space tractor. Evidently you need to be silver, streamlined and bubble-domed when in space, even if you're just plowing the land.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 19:33:25 2010 No.1397156 >>1397139 In THE FUTURE, space fashion will be hideous.

Anonymous Tue Jul 13 19:37:25 2010 No.1397172
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>>1397103
The problem is that NASA is such a stagnant bureaucratic cesspool that, even with even more money, they couldn't get results any faster. Don't go saying "well they did it once in 8 years!!!111", that NASA is dead, it has been dead for 40 years.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 19:38:25 2010 No.1397177 >>1397172 Which is why Obama's plan of seeding the private industry right now is A Good Thing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 19:38:25 2010 No.1397184 >>1397103 10 years easily... if NASA has the funding and the freedom to work without worrying about whether or not their entire plan will be changed the next time the majority party in Congress or the presidential administration changes.

Anonymous Tue Jul 13 19:39:25 2010 No.1397189

>>1397172
>NASA's agenda and budget have been held hostage by 4 decades of uncommitted presidential administrations and a Congresses. NASA's goals and the division of its allotted budget should to be determined by a panel of NASA engineers and scientists, not bureaucrats and treasurers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 19:42:25 2010 No.1397202 >>1397184 Giving something like space flight a 20 year timescale is the best way to ensure that it will never happen.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 19:43:25 2010 No.1397210 Okay, so how do we wrest control of NASA's plans and budget from the bureaucrats and politicians?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 19:44:41 2010 No.1397212 FUCK COMMUNISM! FUCK SOCIALISM! FUCK CAPITALISM! ~WE NEED A NEW ECONOMIC SYSTEM ~LENDING ITSELF TO A NEW ECONOMIC REALITY ~TO CONCUR WITH THE MANKIND OF PHYSICS!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 19:45:25 2010 No.1397217 >>1397212 TECHNOCRACCCCCCCCCCCCCCYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 19:45:25 2010 No.1397220 >>1397212 Hello Venus Project

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 19:46:41 2010 No.1397226 >>1397217 Lol, you faggot, I just pulled that shit out of my ass, and it was supposed to be as off-topic and incoherent as possible. You just got trolled.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 19:49:25 2010 No.1397242 File: 29 KB, 336x336, Awesome_Face_bigger_bigger.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1397217 Nation founding experiments started on the internet always work so very well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 19:50:25 2010 No.1397251 It's easy, tell the the US armed forces that Russia & China has set up bases on pluto. You will be out there by Christmas.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 19:51:25 2010 No.1397261 >>1397242 Where exactly are they planning to set up shop, anyway? Antartica? There isn't much unclaimed land left in the world.

коб Tue Jul 13 19:51:25 2010 No.1397263
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we need to not destroy the scientific base and educational system of the most scientific country in the world.

Where would you bitches be with out tetris!

IMF are fucking criminals, and the educational establishment is a monopoly!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 19:51:25 2010 No.1397266 >>1397261 Might be possible. More and more ice there is melting every day. But no, we were originally looking at Tasmania or some other island nation.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 19:53:25 2010 No.1397274 >>1397226 >lol i trole u >>1397242 i no rite

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 19:58:25 2010 No.1397314 >>1397210 See: >>1390050 >>1390517 >>1390618 >>1390619 >>1390670 >>1390772 >>1390850 >>1391111 >>1391568 >>1391966 >>1392076 >>1392115 >>1392122 >>1392146 >>1392156 >>1392161 >>1392809 >>1394509 >>1394536 >>1394561 for some ideas.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 20:08:25 2010 No.1397394 >>1397263 >the most scientific country in the world. >posts image of scrapped spacecraft

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 20:59:25 2010 No.1397850 bump

Anonymous Tue Jul 13 21:13:25 2010 No.1397986

>>1397314
>implying a centalised government program would be an effective means of making space accessible and useful to humanity.

Really now, that's how we got into this position in the first place, if NASA weren't a rotting sore they could have accomplished much more than they have with much less. Space is not inherently that expensive, it's the way NASA does business, cost pluse contracting, habitual redesigning of working systems, and a fetish for excessively complex solutions make everything cost at least 10 times what it should.
They only way we will be a space fairing civilization is the growth of a diverse and competitive space industry, and the absence of a central master plan.

Anonymous Tue Jul 13 21:23:25 2010 No.1398080

>>1397986
Can't we agree on a middle ground for space exploration - let NASA focus on missions to new destinations and developing new technology, then turn that tech over to the private industry and let them build infrastructure in NASA's wake.
NASA blazes the trail, the private sector paves the road behind them.

>>	Boros, helmet !SNAKE2fzOg Tue Jul 13 21:25:25 2010 No.1398102 50 billion dollars? let's put that shit into a space elevator program, it would SLASH space assembly costs for vehicles. making deep solar system trecks and colonization rather easy

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 21:27:25 2010 No.1398117 >>1389996 NASA was getting 0.6% of the federal budget as of 2008.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 21:29:25 2010 No.1398129 >>1397986 >it's the way NASA does business Rockets are expensive, there is no way around it. NASA isn't doing it wrong. inb4 you cite cheap private rockets that aren't certified to lift humans.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 21:45:25 2010 No.1398269 >>1398102 50 billion does fuck all to fund a space elevator if we still can't produce carbon nanotubes quickly or cheaply.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 21:49:25 2010 No.1398293 >>1398080 That's sort of the idea behind Obama's plan.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 21:53:25 2010 No.1398314 He3 on the moon? Why does everyone say this? I thought Luna didn't have strong enough gravity to keep an element like Helium or Hydrogen on it?

Anonymous Tue Jul 13 21:53:25 2010 No.1398315

>>1398129
Oops you mentioned man rating, lose all credibility.
There is no document or possess that defines being qualified for human lift, it's an asspull.
And between the shuttle's lack of a passenger escape system and the plan for Aries to carry people after one test flight, trying to defend NASA with it is not ... an effective argument.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 21:55:25 2010 No.1398331 >>1398315 Are we still going to use the Ares rockets at all?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 21:58:25 2010 No.1398349 >>1398314 >>1398314 You don't fill up balloons with He3.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 22:01:25 2010 No.1398372 >>1398331 We may use some of the stuff developed for Ares in developing a proper HLV

Anonymous Tue Jul 13 22:02:25 2010 No.1398377

>>1398331
the heavy lifter is supposedly still on the table as a concession, but there aren’t any in house passenger vehicles in the works right now thankfully.
Sounds like Boeing is trying to get in with their capsule that would launch on one of their existing commercial rockets.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 22:03:25 2010 No.1398379 I honestly think we should allocate a seperate budget for financing the private space industry in the interest of simplicity. If anything, it'll help bring a few "FREE MARKET AND PRIVATIZATION" congresspeople over to our side.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 22:04:25 2010 No.1398391 >>1398377 Isn't SpaceX exploring the idea of a SHLV based off of the Sea Dragon model? If so, that'd be a great start. The ability to send a 550 metric ton payload into space would be a nice jumping point for infrastructure-building.

Anonymous Tue Jul 13 22:10:25 2010 No.1398416

>>1398391
Haven't heard that, though they call their passenger capsule Dragon. Wouldn't be too supprised if they were at least looking at it long term, they plan on making the first stage fully recoverable, and if they can make it highly resistant to repeated saltwater dunkings they would be in a good place technologically for sea dragon. Heh would keep them in the game if the space plane RLVs take the small launch market too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 22:12:25 2010 No.1398424 >>1398416 Aren't most rocket stages already fitted with anti-corrosive material?

>>	Boros, helmet !SNAKE2fzOg Tue Jul 13 22:16:25 2010 No.1398444 >>1398269 carbon nanotubes are a dead end, since they cannot be manufactured into full strands in any known way. the best they can get is little bundles of them all linked together. less guitar strings, more angel hair pasta.

Anonymous Tue Jul 13 22:20:25 2010 No.1398463

>>1398416
to a degree, between the rattling of normal operation, drop (even chut slowed) into the ocean can open things to salt water, its not an insurmountable issue by any means, but will be a few recoveries where tearing it down to wash and reassemble will eat the savings of recovery during the learning curve.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 22:22:25 2010 No.1398474 >>1398391 No, Space X is in no way looking at that. Their focus is on designing their own, low cost rockets

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 22:31:25 2010 No.1398529 >>1398474 They're still planning to produce a SHLV, though, right? Shit, I'm getting a lot of conflicting info about SpaceX. :/

>>	коб Tue Jul 13 22:54:25 2010 No.1398670 >>1397394 thanks to IMF and the CIA

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 22:54:25 2010 No.1398674 None of you will ever see space, lol.

>>	Boros, helmet !SNAKE2fzOg Tue Jul 13 22:56:25 2010 No.1398691 >>1398474 one reusable SHLV would be INCREDIBLY profitable for them, since they could haul up fucking massive loads of gear for space bases or something like that jupiter moons explorer mission that was scrapped

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 22:57:25 2010 No.1398696 >>1398691 >Jupiter Moons Explorer Mission >Scrapped FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FUCK THIS GAY EARTH GODDAMN

>>	Boros, helmet !SNAKE2fzOg Tue Jul 13 23:02:25 2010 No.1398745 >>1398696 oh fuck yeah it was going to be awesome probes for like 4 of the moons, entire thing running on a nuclear power plant

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 23:03:25 2010 No.1398759 The way we popularize space travel is by introducing the public to SPACE SEX.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 23:13:25 2010 No.1398838 >>1398759 Has anyone ever had sex in space before?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 23:15:25 2010 No.1398849 >>1398745 What are the details of the treaty banning nukes in space? Are we allowed to use nuclear reactors if they aren't, you know, weaponized?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 23:16:25 2010 No.1398858 >>1398838 While no astronaut will admit to it, it almost definitely has happened. It probably happens all the time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 23:20:25 2010 No.1398889 >>1398858 My ultimate goal in life is to become an astronaut, sneak some weed on board, and then hotbox the ISS.

>>	Boros, helmet !SNAKE2fzOg Tue Jul 13 23:27:25 2010 No.1398932 >>1398849 oh, of course that's what powered Cassini, there was a HUGE uproar about that from dumbshit eco-fanatics who (again) didn't understand how radiation works. that was 30 years ago

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 13 23:30:25 2010 No.1398963 >>1398889 Some day mankind will encounter aliens and invent SPACE WEED.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 14 02:22:25 2010 No.1400210 >>1398745 You can thank former administrator Griffin for that. He cut science and unmanned funding by 25% to dump more money towards Ares.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 14 02:37:25 2010 No.1400288 Fuck politions, fire them all, lets get senior scientists, engineers and people who actually know what the fuck they are talking about to run the show.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 14 02:38:25 2010 No.1400293 >>1400288 sadly we only have politicians, and all they know is how to hoard power and steal money.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 14 02:40:25 2010 No.1400301 hey guys instead of discussing this in a forum, LETS ACTUALLY do some shit. post this on b and get it really popular and dont let it die. Then ppl might actually notice and do some shit about it

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 14 02:41:25 2010 No.1400305 >>1400288 In B4 retards mention that internet nation founding experiment.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 14 03:36:25 2010 No.1400496 >>1398858 I'm now extremely curious about this. Weightless sex. THIS IS WHY WE NEED TO GO TO SPACE!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 14 03:39:25 2010 No.1400509 >>1400288 YES!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 14 03:48:25 2010 No.1400523 >>1400301 Fuck year lets start a technocracy!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 14 03:49:25 2010 No.1400524 This is why they don't give us funding....

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 14 05:29:25 2010 No.1400791 >>1400301 Oh wait, you're serious.

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