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1388016 No.1388016 [Reply] [Original]

I have a theory about time traveling with your consciousness. Basically, moving your consciousness back through time by will.
I know it's crazy and its most important part(near the end) is just an assumption, but I'd still want to hear your personal opinion about it.

The theory goes:
-We perceive time as flowing, and flowing forwards, because of our memories. We've gained this ability through evolution, so we could reason things better, or at all.

Anyways, because proportionally with time, our brain gets more and more complex, alike to following the Moore's law, we can use this if we want to change the direction in which our consciousness flows.

If one could, with proper meditation, make himself forget things by the reverse order he learned them, his consciousness would flow back in time during that time. And when he stops doing it, at the time when his perception of timeflow starts going in reverse, at the very moment, he could get clear view on the illusion of how we perceive time, and maybe travel with his consciousness at any direction he wills, while concentrated.

So what do you think?

>> No.1388037

>alike to following the Moore's Law
Moore's "law" is in no means a law dude.

>> No.1388045

more like curious correlation observed by moore

>> No.1388052

bump

>> No.1388065

>So what do you think?
I think you have a lovely imagination.

>> No.1388073

>>1388037
Yeah, I meant it as a metaphor. As technology gets more advanced with time, our brain gets more complex with time, so we get the illusion of time as 'flowing'

>> No.1388077

>>1388016
Sound interesting to me. Someone should try this.

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>>1388065
Thanks, I suppose

>> No.1388093

>>1388073
>our brain gets more complex with time
But they don't really. They get more organized with time and unnecessary connections are cut away. Memory formation has nothing to do with the perception of time as even a person who has complete anteriograde amnesia (meaning he cannot form new memories) experiences time like we do.

>> No.1388096

>>1388037
This is like saying evolution is "only a theory." In science, a law isn't something we know for sure, it's just a mathematical relationship. Moore's Law is definitely a law, just as much as the MOND force law, or any other law that is not yet been well-established or has been pretty much discredited.

>> No.1388106

> I am an entropic creature that can percieve events before they have happened.
NO.

>> No.1388185

>>1388106
Why so sure?
Mind to elaborate?

>> No.1388203

>>1388096
Dude, it's not.
A (natural) law is based on a well-reasoned and tested theory that is able to be (at least theoretically) proven at any given moment.
Moore's "law" is just observation of the past.

>> No.1388218

>>1388185
Your body works off of chemical reactions.
Those chemical reactions work one way.

Your genome has a specific blueprint of chemicals it can build.
You can't meditate to make new chemicals.

Your genome is made of protons and electrons.
They can not go back in time.

>> No.1388228

>>1388218

/thread

>> No.1388301

>>1388218
lrn2quantum physics

>> No.1388310

>>1388218
your conciousness can be detached from your body, at least from the first person observer subjective perspective. A drug named Salvinorin A, when taken in sufficient amount can induce a dream-like state, when you're rewatching a personal past experience, and if to believe in people reports, the memory is accurate.

>> No.1388321

>>1388310
perceiving it doesn't make it real. It just means you are retrieving memories.

>> No.1388325

Your consciousness is not going back in time, Because either way you will still contain the same information you had, so it is recalling past memory's, your theory INCORRECT

>> No.1388322

>>1388218
THAT imean THIS

>> No.1388339

I think this is pretty much the same thing as recalling memories with hypnotism...

>> No.1388344

We can already time travel with our conciousness op, its called remembering the past and imagining the future.

>> No.1388346

>>1388321
yeah i know, thats what im thinking. Its a shame there are no official studies; for example it could also be a false memory planted in a way that makes you believe its true, thou in some reports people are conviced about the memorys accuracy.

>> No.1388353

its probably possible but i wouldnt know if i could trust my future self.

>> No.1388358

>>1388346
there's a pretty big literature on false memory formation dude...

>> No.1388367

>>1388358
yeah, but not in the context of salvinorinA induced state.

>> No.1388386

>>1388358
they aren't false memories they are recollections of parallel causality chains.

>> No.1388390

>>1388386
[citation needed]

>> No.1388393

sounds schizophrenic.

>> No.1388397

>>>1388321
>>1388325
>>1388339
You're missing my point here.
Outside of our perception, time doesn't flow. It's just another dimension of things' form, which the way our brain works, it appears from us that are flowing.
Outside our perception, time doesn't have a direction. It has a way, form and all, but it doesn't make a difference on what you consider past, and what future. Now, the way we're developed, we're experiencing time as flowing as each 'now' has its own memories, a little richer than the 'past now', and a little poorer than the 'future now'.
What my idea is that if you're continuously forgetting things with the same speed you learned them, just in the reverse order, you would perceive thing the opposite way. The moment you stop forgetting things will seem like a past to you, and the moment you started forgetting them like a future. Which to everyone outside your mind will be the opposite way.
Have some thinking on that.

>> No.1388395

>>1388390
dammit i always laugh when someone does that even to me ;_;

>> No.1388409

>>1388344
but aren't memories just a trace experience has left on us? Like a notebook...
?

>> No.1388422

>>1388386
add me please, psnichoski@hotmail.com

>> No.1388472

>>1388386

still if you could do it then why not the person next to you.
i think that you would have to do a lot of time traveling if you ever were in the same vecinity as another time traveler.. just so you could affect a moment.

>> No.1388484

>>1388016


My theory is that you're a delusional retard.

>> No.1388515

>>1388484
second

>> No.1388591

bump