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Anonymous Mon Jul 12 13:06:42 2010 No.1387193 [Reply] [Original]

Let's talk about placebos. All medicine is tested against placebos, but are placebos themselves tested against no treatment, for each particular malady where there is no known/readily available cure?
Further, how can doctors possibly prescribe placebos? If yes, how - do pharmacies carry fake pills? If no, why, when placebos sometimes have demonstratably positive effects?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 13:08:42 2010 No.1387198 Yes, they can prescribe them, and presumably pharmacies carry them. It's probably rare -- at least in the US -- because it seems like you're setting yourself up for a lawsuit prescribing a placebo. Plus, no kickbacks from pharmas in that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 13:14:42 2010 No.1387224 >>1387198 Huh. So are there some standard placebo "brands" that medics prescribe? Clearly, they can't write "placebo" on the prescription.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 13:15:42 2010 No.1387228 Homeopathy is somewhat related to what you're asking I think.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 13:15:42 2010 No.1387230 >>1387193 >how can doctors possibly prescribe placebos? Sugar pills dumbass.

Anonymous Mon Jul 12 13:19:42 2010 No.1387247

>>1387198
A law suit for prescribing a placebo?

The fact of the matter is you go to the doctor to get better. If he prescribes you something that genuinely works you would not sue, so if a placebo worked before you found out it was a placebo you should have no right to sue. Sure, he may be selling you a drug that has no active ingredients in it; but if he told you that it wouldn't work.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 13:23:42 2010 No.1387279 two commonly prescribed "placebos" neurontin (Gapapentin) Prozac Real drugs, minimal effects from either one. you cant really prescribe placebos but you can be creative with medicines that have little to no effect on the body.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 13:23:42 2010 No.1387283 >>1387230 So how the fuck will the patient not catch on to the fact that he is taking sugar pills?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 13:25:42 2010 No.1387300 >>1387228 However, homeopaths don't really consider they bullshit medicine as being placebo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 13:25:42 2010 No.1387304 >>1387247 >but if he told you that it wouldn't work. That's not true. It's been shown that taking a placebo, and KNOWING it's a placebo, still produces a positive effect statistically greater than no treatement

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 13:26:42 2010 No.1387308 >>1387283 How the hell do you know what's in the pills you take? Do you run a spectroscopy on all your drugs?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 13:28:42 2010 No.1387317 >>1387308 I'm pretty sure the write it on the fucking bottle.

>>	tinycat !!NqU6wU7JQ+v Mon Jul 12 13:30:42 2010 No.1387333 Forcing yourself to laugh makes you happier also

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 12 13:32:42 2010 No.1387342 >>1387317 And you don't think it would be some proprietary name along with something like >6-(hydroxymethyl)oxane-2,3,4,5-tetrol

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