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1318058 No.1318058 [Reply] [Original]

Sufficiently advanced intelligence is detrimental to the survival of a species. A species with a strong capacity for culture will eventually begin selecting against intelligence above a certain threshold.

Discuss.

Image is a man who would not hesitate to use a primitive hyena jaw could rip up your belly.

>> No.1318066

Wait why would a society do that?

>> No.1318079

>>1318066
Probably because it's members would fear their own obsolescence.

>> No.1318088

>>1318066
>>1318079
and to see evidence for this, look no further than islamic countries, or the deep south in 'merica

>> No.1318089

>>1318066

The "n" in "noko" needs to be lowercase, methinks.

Example: Once a certain level of intelligence is reached, that is, when a certain level of consciousness is attained, an animal is capable of committing suicide. Intelligence is genetic, and there is some evidence that disposition towards suicide is also genetic. Intelligence of a level that grants the creature the capability to form the intent to kill itself (excluding kin altruism) is detrimental.

Unless associated behaviors are considered "attractive" by the opposite sex and lead to reproduction.

Another example: Being intelligent enough to create weapons capable of ending the species' existence. Examples include atomic weapons (particularly salted bombs), the ability to grossly damage the global ecosystem, such as developing the ability to drill at the bottom of the ocean, genetic engineering (which can be used to create "superbugs"), etc.

>> No.1318121

>>1318079

In Maine, USA, children learn to avoid being in the advanced classes so as not to offend their friends. The average adult wage earner in Maine makes $12.50 an hour without benefits, or $10.00 an hour with benefits.

>> No.1318125

>>1318121
>so as not to offend their friends

You mean so as not to get beaten up for being a nerd, right?

>> No.1318135

>>1318089

Yeah, was on me iPhone. :\

Correlation is not causation.

Intelligence does not necessarily breed suicidal tendencies.

>> No.1318140

>>1318121

I never heard that. Proof?

>> No.1318142

>>1318125
precisely

>> No.1318159

>>1318135

Show me an ant that sits around and contemplates the meaninglessness of its own existence, and then takes its own life.

I rarely meet stupid people who are suicidal. Uneducated people, yes, but not stupid people.

>> No.1318162

>>1318159
>I rarely meet stupid people who are suicidal

I'm not so sure. Go to Livejournal and see for yourself.

>> No.1318164

>>1318162

There is a difference between being suicidal and "bitching and moaning and never actually going through with it."

>> No.1318187

>>1318058

Between the ages of 20 and 30 you'll realise that teenagers are fucking clueless gobshites irrespective of IQ or Education.

So either kill yourself or shut the fuck up and be patient.

>> No.1318194

>>1318187

Wow. I'm not talking about "Boo Hoo, I wanna kill myself." I'm talking about the fact that once you get smart enough, you can destroy your own species, which is detrimental to the species, and, ergo, that level of smartness is detrimental and will be selected against.

>> No.1318354

Yeah I know what you mean, OP.

Our species truly is in an interesting position. We seem to be transitioning from animals to something else, perhaps something better. Humanity appears to be in some sort of phase between the beast, and, well, for lack of a better term the "transhuman". Humans of today, of course, are still animals. But we are intelligent enough to choose our path from here on out.

Do we regress to the animal state, or do we ascend to the "next step of evolution", whatever that may be?

>> No.1318378

>>1318354

We have no reason to adapt to our environment anymore; we adapt the environment to us. Once you develop intelligence and tool use, a good deal of selective pressures change.

>> No.1318620

>>1318194

This assumes that great intelligence doesn't also bring with it a heightened sense of morality which is a major flaw in your 'logic'. That and you aren't taking into account wisdom which isn't necessarily tied to conventional intelligence.