/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.1316311]

[Anonymous No.1316312]

Probably.
I blame capitalism.

[Anonymous No.1316316]

It's because of Obama.

Apparently solving problems on Earth are more important that putting people in space.

[Anonymous No.1316320]

op hasn't heard of moors law or know about ray kurtswel

op is an idiot

[Anonymous No.1316326]

>>1316316
ikr

[Anonymous No.1316329]

>>1316316
>>1316316
>Apparently solving problems on Earth

Obama isn't really even doing that. Pretty much he kept all the old bullshit from before and more unnecessary and ineffective things.

[Anonymous No.1316327]

>>1316320
Because the miniaturization of electrical circuits is akin to a law of nature and will continue indefinitely.

[Anonymous No.1316338]

>>1316312

I blame the 60's hippie generation. Before they matured and started running the country, we built things like the hoover dam, and the interstate highway program. We fought World War 2. We successfully carried out the Marshall Plan. And of course, we ran the Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo programs.

Now, we can't even get our interstate railroad system off the ground. We can't modernize the country's electrical grid. Our bridges and roads are falling apart, and we can't upgrade our decaying infrastructure. And we're nowhere near energy independence.

What this country needs is a swift kick in the ass.

[Anonymous No.1316344]

the problem with space programs is that the governments that run them are never truly serious about space and all they care for is the recognition of having a space program and nothing else.

[Anonymous No.1316348]

>>1316329
its hard to fix things when the thing for trying to fix is a fucked up handmedown

[Anonymous No.1316364]

>>1316338
What do hippies have anything to do with that? What do current politicians have to do with 60s hippies?

Don't answer if you find that ridiculous too afterthought..

[Anonymous No.1316369]

China's a growing nation with something to prove. I'm sure we'll live to see the day China plants its flag at Tranquility Base. Won't that be a proud day in our nation's history.

[Anonymous No.1316372]

>>1316338

Baby-boomers, not Hippies. Those old fucks are the reason the US sucks. Every single one of them.

[Anonymous No.1316374]

>>1316348
It's hard to fix things when you don't actually try to fix things at all. You just add more fire to burn the country to the ground.

[Anonymous No.1316381]

THE ONLY REASON WE WENT TO THE MOON WAS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO SHOW UP THOSE FUCKING COMMIES.

AMERICA HAS ABSOLUTELY NO REAL COMPETITION OR RIVALS IN THE WORLD TODAY FOR MOTIVATION PUBLIC OR OTHERWISE TOWARDS RAPID ADVANCEMENT.

REST OF THE WORLD, ARE YOU EVEN TRYING?

[Anonymous No.1316383]

Makes me sad too, OP.

[Anonymous No.1316390]

>>1316374
someone is in the upper class. mad cause hes doesnt care about republicans

[Anonymous No.1316391]

>>1316374

OBAMA IS DESTROYING AMERICA

/new/ much?

The space program has been fucked a long time before Obama, even Bush, even Clinton. The space program has been fucked since people wanted to be movie stars and wall-street execs rather than scientists and engineers. It's been fucked since people stopped giving a shit about being intelligent and getting an education. It's fucked because of us, all of us. Stop blaming problems on one person.

[Anonymous No.1316399]

we never even went to the moon. jesus people, it isn't that hard to see through the lies. we couldn't even get a fucking telescope in earth orbit right 30 years later, how the fuck do you think they managed to get to the moon on 1960s tech?

[Anonymous No.1316404]

>>1316391
Not this shit again.

Look, Obama is looking to be a terrible to mediocre president. He's doing all the same bullshit Bush did (UPHOLDING BASICALLY EVERYTHING BUSH PUT IN LIKE PATRIOT ACT) and he's a filthy liar who really didn't change anything at all. Things like health care failure was icing on the cake.

[Anonymous No.1316408]

>>1316399

Oh here we go.

[Anonymous No.1316412]

>>1316390
>mad cause hes doesnt care about republicans

Uhhh... he's pretty damn fucking right leaning. Cunts are complaining that he isn't liberal enough anyway. Obama is a tool of the corporations and wanted to make internet piracy a thought crime. Are you fucking kidding me?

[Anonymous No.1316414]

>>1316404
>implying it wasnt the republicans fault

[Anonymous No.1316420]

>>1316412
conservative and republican are different. or have i been trolled. hard to tell since everyone here show signs of stupidity

[Anonymous No.1316423]

>>1316420

Republicans are *supposed* to be conservative, but a lot of the big name ones proved to be anything but.

[Anonymous No.1316425]

>>1316399

[Anonymous No.1316426]

>>1316404

>he can only spew Fox News rhetoric about a president he doesn't like rather than actually talk about the space program.

>not this shit again
Yeah, I can see how not blaming Obama for everything wrong in the world automatically means I love the guy.

ITS YOUR FAULT. It's my fault. Its your neighbors fault. It's the American people's fault for the space program dying. Why is that so hard for wingnuts to accept?

[Anonymous No.1316428]

FUCK THIS

I AM GOING TO BUY A HUMMER AND 100 CANS OF CFC HAIR SPRAY

I WILL FUCK THIS PLANET UP SO BAD THAT WE WILL HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO GO TO MARS

[Anonymous No.1316435]

>>1316414
It wasn't.

Did you see the moment when Obama renewed the patriot act? Every single democrat there clapped like an idiot when just a few years ago they were looking angry and not amused when it was brought forth during Bush.

Look here, kid. This is politics. They don't care about fucking ANYONE but themselves and they just want your money along with more power. Bunch of fucktarded bandwagon kiddies and their HERPDERP DEMOCRAT VS REPUBLICAN or CONSERVATIVE VS LIBERALS need to grow up.

[Anonymous No.1316436]

>>1316414
>Implying that when a democrat does it it's still the republican's fault.

[Anonymous No.1316437]

>>1316426
So many strawmen and fallacies in a single post.

The point ------------------------------->
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[Anonymous No.1316438]

>>1316436
>implying the republicans arent holding him back

[Anonymous No.1316439]

Republicans - They take your money and lie to you.
Democrats - They lie to you and take your money.

Shut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.1316440]

>>1316435

No shit. Both parties are guilty of it. Democrats and Republicans are against anything they didn't come up with, and that doesn't further the party.

[Anonymous No.1316445]

>>1316437

>strawmen

Yep, definitely from /new/. Can you talk about the space program without going off on a Glennbeckesque tangent about politics?

[Anonymous No.1316448]

>>1316440
Yes, but there are still these asspained liberal democrat obama cock sucking kiddies around that have to just blame the other side for fucking everything like they cannot do any wrong. Both sides are shit, deal with it. No amount of being force fed shit from MSNBC or fox news will change that.

[Anonymous No.1316450]

>>1316435
>>1316439
>>1316440

LIBERTARIAN DEFENSE FORCE GOOO!

[Anonymous No.1316452]

>>1316438
>herpderurepderdduurr republicans

You really are just as bad as them. Hell, worse even.

[Anonymous No.1316454]

>>1316438
>Implying that the republicans have some kind of hold on the House of Representatives, the Senate, or the Executive branch.

[Anonymous No.1316456]

>>1316450
Democrat (or Republican) fanboy detected.

[Anonymous No.1316457]

>>1316448
the republicans have taken it to another level though to be far. im more interested in how the democrats will respond when its their turn

[Anonymous No.1316460]

>>1316454

Well considering they can stall anything they want to in the Senate, thanks to archaic rules that were never meant to be used in such a way...

[Anonymous No.1316462]

>>1316445
I already said there's no real motivation for the space program. Plus all you kids think you're being so edgy and cool just spouting LOLFAUXNEWS when you know full well nobody actually gives a shit about them on 4chan. You aren't even worth discussing the topic with considering all the shitty ad hominems and shitposting you do.

[Anonymous No.1316463]

>>1316338
I read this in Red's voice.

[Anonymous No.1316464]

>>1316454
>implying that when every republican is being a bitch it has no influence

[Anonymous No.1316474]

>>1316460
>>1316464
>hurp durp Obama's not the messiah we claimed him to be. Must be the republican's fault.

[Anonymous No.1316476]

>>1316464
>butthurt underaged b& democrat

Yes, blame the opposing side for shit that is still your fault. Play the victim, kid.

LOLPOLITICS

I'm a man of science. Why must people put up with you children?

[Secret Gypsy !lsfnYm1S7o No.1316478]

>>1316404
So fucking what. Obama didn't make kids fail school and he didn't force them to sit back and say "So what if I can't finish high-school, I'm gonna be a star anyway."

You are the cancer killing the world and people like you. People who find a figurehead to blame your problems on, to blame for your faults and YOUR fuckups. You can't be responsible for your actions, its Obama's fault for not doing something that is completely unrelated to your current failings, right? Wrong. He's a terrible president but he's not the reason that you are a terrible person.

Go fuck yourself.

[Anonymous No.1316492]

>>1316476

>I can't properly debate this man's point, so I'll resort to ad hominem.

[Anonymous No.1316493]

>>1316478
>ad hominem
>seriously butthurt and mad

>He's a terrible president
Exactly what I'm looking for. No further discussion is required.

[Anonymous No.1316496]

>>1316462

>ad hominems.

Stop posting words you don't understand sport.

Since you're so astute, point out the ad hominem in this post:
>>1316445

Do it. Quote it.

I tried shifting the discussion away from politics in my first post. I blamed no president, no political party for anything. All I suggested was that it is the People's fault for letting things go to shit. It's you or whoever posted who continuously made it about politics.

If you can't discuss anything rationally, get out of /sci/. And read up on logical fallacies, you're just throwing them out there and hoping they stick, they don't.

[Anonymous No.1316504]

>>1316492
>irony
>HERPDERPDERP MY POLITICAL AFFILIATION CAN DO NO WRONG AND IT'S ALL THE PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE'S FAULT BAAAWWWWW THEY'RE BITCHES AND SHIT EVEN THOUGH I'M BITCHING ABOUT THEM BAAWW

Sure kid, whatever you say.

[Anonymous No.1316512]

>>1316504
>Irony
>Engages cruise control when his views are challenged
>Mocks people for doing the same
>Should probably look in the mirror

[Anonymous No.1316513]

Fuck you all, it's everyone's fault. Now shut up.

[Anonymous No.1316518]

>>1316311
>Government wasted $9 billion on Ares 1 and it never flew
>Elon Musk launched Falcon 9 for less than $400 million

[Anonymous No.1316525]

>>1316513

>ad hominem
>begging the question
>no true scotsman
>false attribution bias

You're beeing so illogical. If you don't agree with me, then you're a child who voted for the person I didn't. Stupid head poo poo face.

[Anonymous No.1316528]

>>1316496
>Since you're so astute, point out the ad hominem in this post:

>Implying that whole post isn't argumentum ad hominem

[Anonymous No.1316532]

>>1316518
So perhaps the future of manned space exploration rests in the interest of space tourism? There may still be hope.

[Anonymous No.1316533]

>>1316496
Despite your angry ridden post, did you read the thread? And honestly, Glennbeckesque tangent? Pathetic.

Point is, it's everyone's fault and the democrat kid wants to blame a the whole other side for everything that's gone wrong with his childish bandwagon attitude. You want to be holier than thou? Go for it.

The public has been losing interest in the space program for decades, that's why. Just shut the fuck up already, honestly. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out. We had an entire Simpsons episode about it.

[Anonymous No.1316536]

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[Anonymous No.1316537]

>>1316512
>doesn't comprehend sarcasm

[Anonymous No.1316541]

>>1316528

Sarcasm isn't ad hominem.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem.html

If I said "you're wrong because you're a fuckface." That would be ad hominem. Saying "You're wrong because you don't know what you're talking about" isn't despite being a weak argument itself.

[Anonymous No.1316547]

>>1316528
Hmmm.

Well ok. You want to act like a child, I'll treat you like one.

Here is your homework.
Follow the link and read the websites listed.
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=ad+hominem&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:
en-GB:official&client=firefox-a

Do it or I'll give you detention for a month.

[Anonymous No.1316552]

>>1316496
The entire few first posts of the thread tried pinning the blame on some side and I don't blame them.
I blame faggots like you who want to play moderator.
Just get out, faggot.

[Anonymous No.1316554]

>>1316533

I wasn't angry. Even if had been, being angry isn't ad hominem. Critiquing your argument by saying you're just parroting conservative talk radio, isn't ad hominem either. As I was critiquing your arguments and not you.

Don't confuse any argument that disagrees with you, or that makes fun of your points, for ad hominem attacks.

[Anonymous No.1316555]

>>1316541
>Yep, definitely from /new/.
>linking your opponent to /new/ in a derisive way, and using that to invalidate his argument
>Not ad hominem

wtfamireading.jpg

[Anonymous No.1316560]

>>1316555
This.

[Anonymous No.1316564]

>infinite argumentum ad hominems

OH BOY!

[Anonymous No.1316567]

>>1316555

I didn't dismiss his argument by linking him to /new/. I dismissed his argument with the second part of the post. Try again.

[Anonymous No.1316569]

Hey guys, lets have an argument over the argument over the argument.

[Anonymous No.1316575]

>>1316569

>Hey guys let's shift the argument to politics then get butthurt then spam logical fallacies so we look smart then get butthurt then act like the argument is stupid anyways

Fix'd. And butthurt comes next, so enjoy.

[Anonymous No.1316577]

>>1316567
>Can you talk about the space program without going off on a Glennbeckesque tangent about politics?
>Implying you invalidated the argument, rather than completely avoided it

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[Anonymous No.1316578]

>>1316569
This cunt here had to start shit with his "OBAMA'S FAULT EVERYTHING" strawman >>1316391

Butthurt fanboys will be butthurt fanboys

[Anonymous No.1316582]

>>1316578
>"But moooooooom! He started it!"

[Anonymous No.1316589]

>>1316582
But it's true then we had the butthurt Obama cock sucking defense force and democrats trying to blame their opposing political party for pretty much fucking everything while the neutrals disagreed with them. I'd love to pin the republicans as more retarded but I feel they're just insane and misguided. Democrats are genuinely retarded from what I'm seeing in this thread.

[Anonymous No.1316591]

>This thread

[Anonymous No.1316597]

>>1316577

I didn't avoid it. He said the problem was Obama. I said everyone was the problem, not any one president. Keep trying because what you're doing is basically starting with an answer, that I committed a fallacy, and you're trying to find some way to make that true. This is the opposite of science where you start with evidence THEN work to a conclusion based on it.

>>1316578

>>1316316
>02:36

Oh wait, you're going to say that person was joking and it doesn't count.

>>1316329
Oh boy look at that.

[Anonymous No.1316605]

>>1316591
>This thread

[Anonymous No.1316606]

>>1316589

Okay again.

>>1316391

Where did I defend Obama? I humbly request, again, that you quote it.

[Anonymous No.1316612]

>>1316597
Except he never said that. All he said that Obama kept the same policies and shit Bush kept in place and failed with the others. All that is completely true but you had to go apeshit and think he met everything was Obama's fault. Then we have the Obama cock sucking democrats like yourself blaming the entire republican side for everything. This is funny, really funny. It just shows the sheer stupidity of your butthurt political sides that mean absolute shit.

[Anonymous No.1316618]

OP here.

I'm sorry I made this thread.

[Anonymous No.1316621]

>>1316391
Post blowing shit out of proportion here. Then the Glenn Beck comment which shows your obvious Obama bias.

[Anonymous No.1316625]

>>1316618
Thank you. That actually means a lot to me.

[Anonymous No.1316630]

>>1316612

Where did I suck Obama's cock. Where? Please for the sake of humanity show me where I endorsed anything Obama has done.

he said, and I quote from
>>1316374
>"You just add more fire to burn the country to the ground."
>burn the country to the ground

He implied that Obama was burning the country to the ground. Or destroying it. As burning something to ground is destroying.

This is the stupidest discussion I've ever had.

[Anonymous No.1316633]

>>1316478
I love you.

[Anonymous No.1316634]

>>1316621

>he doesn't like Glenn Beck
>he must like Obama

Do you not see the error in logic there?

[Anonymous No.1316636]

What I want to know is, why the underaged b& democratards have to always spout "FOXNEWS" when they don't have a real argument. Anything that disagrees with them, they just have to start spout shit they see off of /b/ or MSNBC in a pathetic attempt to glorify and justified their own political ideals and sides. Really? Grow the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.1316642]

anyone who supported obama in the last election should go to a concentration camp

[Anonymous No.1316645]

>>1316454
>>1316474
>>1316493
>>1316496
>>1316504
>>1316512
>>1316518
>>1316525
>>1316528
>>1316547
>>1316575
>>1316578
>>1316582
>>1316589
>>1316597

[Anonymous No.1316648]

>>1316338
The sun is setting on the glory of the United States.

[Anonymous No.1316652]

>>1316381
This post here ended the thread. It's true.

[Anonymous No.1316658]

>>1316630
>implying you don't have an obvious bias for obama and the democratic side
>implying you aren't angry and defensive as fuck

[Anonymous No.1316664]

>>1316645
Best part is when the tripfaggot replies so seriously and emotionally.

[Anonymous No.1316671]

>>1316658

>anything I disagree with is biased