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>> No.1313744

>Trade School
>Jobs can't be outsourced.
Oh u.

Also,
>Implying I don't like having another guy suck my dick.

>> No.1313745

>made by someone who didn't go to college

>> No.1313756

>Implying my master's in mathematics doesn't get me any job I want, 100 K starting.

>> No.1313765

>>1313756

It doesn't.

>> No.1313769
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1313769

The Professor knows more than you. If you can't handle submitting to that fact then I'm glad you aren't in College. Debts only apply if you are a fucking idiot and can't find a job. I enjoy being consumed by success.

Reported for not being science related.

>> No.1313770

silly trade school person you forgot how in twenty years you'll still be working your ass off and the college fag will be working in a nice comfy air cnditioned office with an income twice greater than their debt

>> No.1313778

As Eurofag, what is trade school? Is this private education of some kind?

>> No.1313781
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>>1313778
It's high school only you have to pay for it.

>> No.1313785

>implying a "real life" is the same for everybody and is not subjective

>> No.1313791

>>1313770
Only if you decided to be an engineer. I dunno man.

>> No.1313794

>>1313781
And you learn how to fix cars.

>> No.1313799

>>1313781

Well, therefore it's better, cause it's on capitalistic grounds. I wish my highschool was like that, cause this socialistic shit is nothing..

>> No.1313808

>>1313799
it's better? Better than what? University or Free High school? Look, I didn't have to pay for my university education ok? I get to work with colleagues that combine nuclear and aerospace concepts. I have no worries for outsourcing because the job I have requires military avionics experience and National Citizenship.

>> No.1313809

>>1313781
What, this sounds pretty awesome, in high school all I did was take the piss out of folk, pass exams, chilled in the rain (its scotland we don't know what the sun looks like) and eat.

Shit was awesome where do I sign up.

>> No.1313821

>>1313809
You don't want to learn SCIENCE or MATH?

Why are you here? That school will teach you how to use your hands like a farmer.

>> No.1313842

>>1313821
Actually I enjoy science, unfortunately I suck dick at math so that handicaps me and stops me from taking physics at university.

And besides I want to build guitars, trade school would help with that.

>> No.1313850

>>1313808

Just speaking about here in the Netherlands. I'm on a 'free' college, and the classes just suck. I mean, the quality of education in the Netherlands is wack. Weird 'confirmed-by-law' structures to make students up for their exams, but the real in-depth views on science isn't a subject at all.

If I found out earlier that things like math and physics were awesome, i would have chosen it, but the way my (and many other schools here) treat subjects like that, wouldn't inspire anyone.

>> No.1313856

>>1313842

lol bro, same thing here, i wanna build guitars!

>> No.1313863

Typical engineers on the right.

>> No.1313870
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1313870

I know plenty of good trades people who get paid more than scientists.

If you just want a decent wage then becoming a plumber actually makes more sense than a scientist.

(although becoming an engineer would be better)

>> No.1313875

>>1313856
How close are you to building your own? and what's your plan for your first build and your dream build?

>> No.1313879

>>1313850
Same here. I studied history and poli sci because my parents hammered the "law school=happiness" fallacy into my head nice and early.

I would kill to go back and study QED, Feynman style.

>> No.1313887

>>1313879
So what's keeping you?

>> No.1313889
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>> No.1313893

>>1313870
If you're doing it for the money you're doing it wrong in the first place.

>> No.1313896

>>1313875

Well no. But a friend of mine build one himself, for which I wired it up and all.

But in a year or so, I'm planning to build a thinline telecustom, those things are so goddamn ugly, but i bet with a bit of creativity it could be a beautiful guitar

>> No.1313899

Guys give better blow jobs because they know what they would want. also their mustache and whiskers can tickle your ball sack and that feels good

>> No.1313901

>>1313879
Whats QED

Yes I suck with abbreviations.

>> No.1313906

>>1313887
I'll be starting my second year of law school in the fall (Gould at USC). I've racked up too much debt to just bail out now and pursue a second degree in the sciences.

>> No.1313910

>>1313901
Quantum Electrodynamics. I mentioned Feynman because he was a pioneer in the field.

It's far more exciting than it sounds. Seriously.

>> No.1313917
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1313917

>Ph.d in Mathematics
>Any Job I Want
>300k Starting

>> No.1313942

I agree with OP's pic for trade school bros.

My job will ALWAYS be....a job...and nothing more.

The debt will be minimal.
School will be easier and the process will be shorter in length.

You get hands on experience which is what you need more than anything. Theoretical work is ALL in books you can pick up from the library and nothing is stopping you from doing that.

Those jobs also tend to have straight schedules where you do what you have to do...then get out.

Work is work...and when you leave...you live your life.

>> No.1313950

>>1313942
I like my life to be full of liquid helium, near-light velocities and supercomputers.

Have fun with your booze.

>> No.1313958

>>1313942

Not everyone feels like that.

I agree that if all you want is a well paying job then becoming a plumber is a better choice than becoming a scientist. (better wages and less debt) But some people just love science and want to make a contribution to mankind.

I think OP's post was aimed more towards the people that go into science and then complain that they get paid poorly.

>> No.1313962

>>1313950

I don't drink alcohol...

but I do believe in having a family and doing whatever I can to be with them.

>> No.1313974

Sure is butthurt in here.

What's wrong tradeschoolers, didn't get accepted to your fallback school after you fucked around too much in high school? Have fun working way more than me and making nothing (full scholarship to out-of-state school for me, btw).

>> No.1313977

>>1313958

Yea I understand that too...I love Science as well...

but the majority of fields require a minimum of a Master's Degree to do anything relevant at all.

and realistically...what are the odds that you are going to actually contribute something to society?

Sure you'll study your favorite subjects and enjoy it...but actually contribute something no one else has? Very...very rare.

>> No.1313981

>>1313778
People are fucking retarded. A trade school is usually a postsecondary school (although sometimes part of a high school or (more often) affiliated with one) that teaches a particular trade. They exist for job-specific training with little emphasis on science, mathematics, or liberal arts.

>> No.1314002

>Implying I don't get mad pussy with my biochem degree

>> No.1314013

Man if I could I'd spend the rest of my life in college.

>> No.1314023

>>1314013
If it were like >>1313737, I'd definitely spend the rest of my life in college.
Let's see, now. (a) Kiss baby or (b) get dick sucked?

>> No.1314025

>>1313896
Nice bro, I've got big ass plans for my dream guitar.

Start making shitty pine les pauls and cannibalise the gear of them for each new one til i'm good with routing and the like

then

My dream guitar, swamp ash body, 5 piece bubinga and maple neck, fanned fret, 7 strings, bare knuckle pickups.

>> No.1314026
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>>1313977

Then study engineering.

Working in a trade will give you a good background in tool use and working with others in industry. You can then get a degree or even a masters in engineering via night school or correspondence courses no debt and and in the end it pays far more than even a high end trade would.

>> No.1314040

>>1314026

yea...if only the market wasn't flooded with "HERP DERP ENGINEERS MAKE GUD MONIEZ, I'LL GO FOR THAT!!"

>> No.1314049

>>1314040
This is a pretty good point. I mean, how many engineering students legitimately WANT to study engineering?

The market is full of little shits who scraped by in their classes so they could get a job.

It makes me sick.

>> No.1314146

It's like I'm stuck truthfully..

I'd like to study Physics...but I am NOT spending 8 - 10 years in school.

Engineering seems good..but it's fucking flooded.
Besides...I'm more of a fixer/builder and not a designer.

Every other science field I can think of requires insane amounts of school..just like Physics.

I'm tired of being clouded under the professor's discretion...especially since most of them read from the projector and don't actually teach a damn thing.

>> No.1314163

>>1314146
Deal with it you fucking pansy, do physics and read up on the shit you want to in your spare time.

Fucking do physics for those of us who want to but cant.

>> No.1314201

>>1314163

>spare time
>Physics career

oh YOU.jpg

That's 8-10 years of school...shit where I am still following orders from a dick advisor/professor in order to receive a piece of paper that shows other people I know what I'm talking about. Not to mention being in major debt and having no social life during that time.

I don't see why I can't emulate the knowledge of a physics degree by just reading the books involved with the class.

>> No.1314216

>>1314049

The truth is that engineering isn't flooded. If you have a engineering degree you will always be able to find work. Although the extremely high wages that engineers get may start to drop if lots of people graduate.

The one field this is an exception in is petroleum engineering... that goes through some serious ups and downs.

>> No.1314219

>implying I take any student loans, and don't just work my way through college.
No debt for me!

>> No.1314338

>>1314216
> The one field this is an exception in is petroleum engineering
Ever hear of ærospace? It's constantly in flux. Petroleum engineering is constantly degrading. Huge difference.

>> No.1314343

this is a worksafe bord

REPORTED

>> No.1314361

>>1314338

Yeah Aerospace engineering is always up and down as well.

And aerospace is one of the 'sexy' engineering disciplines so there are lot's of people who want to get into it and the people doing it tend to be underpaid for their level of expertise.

>> No.1314377

>>1314343
> this is a worksafe bord
I'm an English professor; this was work-safe until your post.

>> No.1314387

>Underwater welder
>100k salary
>Work 6 months a year
>Investments in wine
>Self made millionaire
>27
>Got bsc in physics just to pass the time
>Married with 2 daughters
>Life is good

>> No.1314391

>>1314387
and then you woke up because it was all a dream.

>> No.1314395

>>1314387
are you married with your daughters?

>> No.1314397

>>1314395
No:(

>> No.1314400

>>1314391
>Will never have 10k in the bank

>> No.1314403

>>1314387
wat?

>> No.1314416

>>1314387

I hardly believe this guy even though I doubt his first lie would be "underwater welder"?!

Anyway, what /sci/ sometimes mistakes is formal education and academia as being the only way for the intelligent guy. Something which is obviously false. In the days after WWII lots of people emigrated to Australia and Canada (from Europe) and given the opportunities of the time some of them though coming from a country of peasants built businesses of millions of dollars in revenue.

>> No.1314443

So, I should go to trade school if I don't want to be massively in debt but go to college if I want to "contribute" to humanity.

Well fuck, brb dropping out of college.

>> No.1314464

>>1314443

Nobody goes to college to contribute to humanity lol.

Heck if anything do want you are best at to contribute to humanity instead of follow some irrational ambition to have yet another person who's mediocre at their jobs.

>> No.1314523

sure is butthurt in here, from both sides.

The underlying issue is, college has been fagged out by liberals for the past 30 years. Unless your planning on majoring in a hard science or engineering, there is really no reason to waste that much time and effort. Better to just go to a trade or vocational school. Its much more economical that way.

>> No.1314556

Heyas, I've been to both. I took an AMT course at a local tech school, then eventually majored in CS at a state uni. I can say from personal experience, I walked away from tech school with more applicable knowledge than I did the uni. Also, trade wages are nothing to scoff at. A lot of these guys work their ass off and are payed DAMN well for it. Its a legitimate option if you're a hands on type of person.

>> No.1314561

Id rather fuck a guy than a fat chick...

>> No.1314567

>>1314561

Even if the only requirement was letting her give you a BJ?

>> No.1314578

>>1314567
If she paid me for it

>> No.1314597

i have multiple trades and I'm currently studying ME at university, what now?

success requires elements from both bro.

>> No.1314607

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