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1302948 No.1302948 [Reply] [Original]

Ok guys, I have been having a running argument with one of my friends about quantum mechanics, and I am running out of ammunition. He says that in terms of visually interpreting reality quantum theory presents "interference patterns" which seem to prove the wave theory of light (he's making some very valid points), kind of like illustrated in the picture. What would you say is the best response to this argument?

>> No.1302963

You fucking cunt

>> No.1302966

What do you mean? He's entirely correct, the interference patterns observed in Double Slit experiments do prove the wave theory of light. However, light also behaves as a quanta of energy (see Photoelectric effect). So light behaves as waves and particles.

>> No.1302978

damn, fucking white pig thing

>> No.1302972

>>1302948
He sounds right. What position are you trying to make?

>> No.1303002

>>>/ck/2003631

>> No.1303011
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>>1303002

WTF? are you there OP? answer >>1302972

>> No.1303020

>>1302972
Well I'm trying to defend the position that he's wrong.

>> No.1303033
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>>1303020
Why do you think he is wrong?
His claim seems correct.

>> No.1303047

>>1303033
Well yeah, I'm having that exact same problem! He seems right, but I just know he isn't... That's why I came to you guys, because I hear you're smart (unlike the other boards on 4chan.)

>> No.1303062

>.gif
OP is just a troll and a faggot, he's trying to trick you into looking at that gif, it's a scare gif, some faggot pops up going ''BOOOOO''

>> No.1303068

>>1303020

You want to troll him. That's a legit approach.

Tell him there is nothing like intereference patterns. The light particles do not behave like waves, but are just particles. When they hit our cornea, it's like you throw a stone into water. The eye liquid moves after the van Huygens principle, so we think to see interference patterns.

That should buy you some time.

>> No.1303078

>>1303062
>OP is just a cool guy, he's successfully tricking you into looking at that pic, it's a good pic, some light bends and I don't understand it though.
fix'd

>> No.1303083

clever troll is clever

>> No.1303085

>>1303068
Oh he's a smart guy though... I don't know if that will fool him, plus I don't know if I could say that with a straight face. Maybe someone on this board has a good idea???

>> No.1303086

>>1303078
you're trying too hard

>> No.1303094

>>1303078
I saw this shit on /b/ like a year ago

>> No.1303103

>>1303094
Like I said, it's a running argument. We've been arguing for a while. I would ask /b/ again, but they're not nearly as smart as /sci/... I think we all know that...

>> No.1303110

>Go to Ihop for relaxing dinner with group of friends
>Order chicken fajita omlet (god tier)
>In an unusually good mood, day is going well
>Casually looking around restaurant, see ugly sloppy hambeest in corner with 2 children one of which is a baby
>Watch waiter bring her a soda
>Immediately when she starts to drink it the baby starts reaching hands out and screaming for it
>Hambeest retrieves bottle from purse and proceeds to fill it full to the brim with soda and hand it to the baby
>I start raging and bringing it to the attention of my party
>They (unfit fags) say "lol, so what"
>I start getting loud and saying that it's a fucking helpless baby with a shit-tier mother
>Bro decides to escort me outside so I can "calm down"
>Hambeest overheard me and follows me outside
>Opens the door
>Gets on the floor
>Everyone walk the dinosaur

hurp durp

>> No.1303113 [DELETED] 

>>1303103
Yeah, that's not what I meant faggot

>> No.1303115
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>>1303047
No, he is right. It sounds like your just don't know physics. Here is a good book for you, they talk about that shit in chapter 1. Read up little guy!

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>>1303110

>> No.1303146

>>1303115
Well aren't all opinions about scientific eventually overturned by new explanations? If my friend in fact is aware of the most current accepted "Truth" aren't you /sci/ guys familiar with some emerging field that would at least present a logical more modern (or even just different) alternative?

>> No.1303153

>>1303146

No. You lost the argument. He's right, you're wrong.

>> No.1303157
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1303157

OP I'm really high right now and that scared the shit outa me.

>> No.1303161

Asshole

>> No.1303164

>>1303146
>>1303146
>Well aren't all opinions about scientific eventually overturned by new explanations?

No, now your just talking like a faggoy (a engineer) little kid. What are you 12?

>> No.1303178

>>1303164
Well throughout history scientific "modernity" has always bashed less "modern" theories and tried to perpetuate itself (I could list off countless examples, but I'm not going to) to the point where it becomes almost militaristic. This "modernity" is always overcome by a new, better fitting, (usually) map of reality. Thus the idea of "post-modernism," or striving to achieve a new modernity and not cling so desperately to what you're familiar with due to a fear of change (or other similar primal biological survival mechanism.)

>> No.1303194

>>1303178
Well have you ever considered just punching him in the nuts?

>> No.1303205
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>>1303178
LMAO, you claim your friends argument is wrong, just because you "feel" it is wrong. You have no logical or scientific reason to think it is wrong, you just believe it is. Sounds like your a christfag. Have fun in your meaningless life!

>> No.1303208

>>1303164 Makes fun of my typo... calls me "a engineer"

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>>1302948
>>1302948

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>>1302948
funny little engineer (faggot)

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>>1303208
FYI: engineer = faggot

>> No.1303219

>>1303205
itssobeautiful.jpg
>Can barely contain steely reserve... must... hold... back...

You are a competent adversary, however I shall not stoop to your level and break form. What I do is honorable and I will keep it at the "top" of my priorities 8^)

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>>1302948
ENGINEERING PRIDE!

>> No.1303227

Sweet jesus OP, this gif is older than the internet.

>> No.1303232
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>>1303219
Don't be mad OP. They accept people like us in /sci/. WERE HERE AND PROUD!

Engineeeeerrringgggggg!

>> No.1303233

Why is engineering faggotry?
U guys mad because they make a lot of money?

>> No.1303236
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>>1303219
Have you come out of the closet to you parents yet? This book is a great resource for people like us!

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>>1303233
summerfags.....LMAO

It's a meme dipshit

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>>1303214 Posts a chart ranking "kinesiology" over business, economics, IT, history, english, and engineering---Actually believes it

My face

>> No.1303246
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>>1303233
85% of engineer are faggots
OP knows all about it!
Thanks for the great thread OP!

pride!

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>>1303241
EE reporting in

WOW, your a FAT FAGGOT. How many cocks can you take in that mouth of yours? I got a small mouth (only 4).

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>>1302948
contribuing

thanks op
we could use more faggots like you

>> No.1303262

>Makes fun of english major
>Calls people "a engineer"
>Thinks made a funny joke
>Doesn't understand why being laughed at

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>>1302948

>> No.1303267

>>1303240
lol I'm just not a regular to /sci/
oldfag on a few other boards
will look up meme, though

>> No.1303271

>>1303262

>English Major

Bwahahahahahahahaha.

And you're a fucking English Major, you massive, stupid, idiot cunt.

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>>1302948
>>1302948
pride

>> No.1303274

>>1303267
>>1303267
see
>>1303265

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>>1303254
>Calls me "fat"
>"your fat"

u mirin?
u jelly?
u mad?

>> No.1303289

While walking through the camp with Galdikas, my informant was suddenly seized by a large male orangutan, his intentions made obvious by his erect penis. Fighting off so powerful an animal was not an option, but Galdikas called to her companion not to be concerned, because the orangutan would not harm her, and adding, as further reassurance, that 'they have a very small penis' ... though the orangutan lost interest before penetration took place.

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>>1303271
Is this true OP? Are you an english major (a no good waste of life who should be killed in the most painful way possible)? I thought you were a engineer (a faggot) ?

>> No.1303299
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>>1303279
LMAO, silly little english major. I can't believe they even let you use the compter on your own. You must be so proud. Your big boy, yes you are.

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>>1303291

>> No.1303309

>>1303299
>Your big boy

>> No.1303311
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>>1303279
Look, they even let him use a camera. Your mom must be very proud of her little man.
YOU'RE SO CUTE!

>> No.1303316

>>1303279

Ahahahaha! This "English Major" can't even spell.

What a piece of retarded shit-covered aborted fetus--beast.

Seriously, just get off this board, dumbass.

>> No.1303320
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1303320

Nothing to see here people.
Just an enlish major.
Move along.

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1303337

English Major in /sci/?
But I don't talk to retards.

>> No.1303332

>>1303320
>enlish major

>> No.1303345
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>>1303332
The little guy thinks spelling is important. Silly Engrish Major.

>> No.1303347
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>>1303311 Angry I trolled the whole board, jelly I am young and have the physique of a Greek god, mad because I had the wisdom to select a worthwhile major.

>> No.1303351

>>1303347

Now he's using the troll argument!

What a fucking idiot.
And he's posting pictures.
Truly desperate.

You seem like you wouldn't have the mental capacity for anything challenging, anyways.

Enjoy your job as a pizza boy, fagtron.

>> No.1303359
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1303359

English Major? WTF?

Were you born special, or did you have an accident as a child? How hard is it living with such a severe handicapp?

>> No.1303371
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>>1303347
How cute, he thinks he is a troll.

>> No.1303372
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>>1303320
Some oc I made, just for you.

>> No.1303391

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>> No.1303397
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>>1303347
Thinks people looked at his lame creepa pic, instead of just fucking with him. Also, he may be an engineer (a faggot). He loves to flaunt himself. Are you gay op?

>> No.1303421
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1303421

How does it feel to fail at life OP?
Have your parents disowned you?
Did your fail (english major) affect them?
Did they commit suicide?

>> No.1303438
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1303438

Yeah usually I ride my bike down to the park at the river where I live, and I just lay out in the sun just waiting to catch a girl staring at me. That's when I know they'll be embarrassed when I start walking over to them to bring up some small talk and make them giggle. It's funny, you really know you're alpha as fuck (AAF) when you can make someone's day just by saying a few words do them.
Even better, when they're cute enough for me to bother hitting on them for a while it's just great to see that look in her eye of PURE UNBRIDLED SEXUAL ATTRACTION. That's really what it's all about... Then again you guys wouldn't know anything about that would you? All you guys get are my leftovers... Oh well, at least you have your little "engineer" memes and vivid imaginations.

>> No.1303451

>>1303438

And you still don't fuck them because you're a massive faggot.

Thought so.

And it's more like they start to run away, once they realize how completely and utterly dumb you are. Isn't it?

How's that crotch-rocket treating you? Does it compensate for your tiny penis well enough?

>> No.1303458

>>1303397
>>1303421
Also, loling hard at people claiming to be educated/intellectual/not failures that don't even know how to sage properly HAHA, remember "sage goes in all fields" fellas.

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>>1303458

>> No.1303488
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>>1303451 Does not understand women
I am never alone.
You however, remind me of this picture.

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>>1303488

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>>1303488
bljhblhj

>> No.1303539

I think I'll use my english skills to write a guide:
How to troll /sci/
>Make up a scientific sounding story (doesn't matter if it makes no sense, as long as it sounds scientific. These guys can't even tell the difference and will pretend to understand either way, in fact it's funnier when they do.)
>Post a "shock .gif" and say pic related for some reason (some people will tell you to make your own and to try not to use one that's been floating around the internet for ages, however this is not necessary, /sci/ fags are fucking retarded and will fall for it anyway.)
>When they RAGE about getting trolled by saying some inevitable non-sequitur like "a engineer=faggots" you know you have accomplished your goal
>Hard mode: be incredibly physically /fit/ and an overall cool guy. Post proof of these facts and watch the rage and anger become multiplied.

>> No.1303565

>>1303515
Dude, really? You have a gay porn folder?

>> No.1303571
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>>1303539
FYI:
No one is reading your shit. I felt sorry for you, but now you're on your own little guy. Try not to fail so much. Hang in there, maybe one day you will be smart enough to get out of english!

>> No.1303575

>>1303062
>>1303062
>>1303062
>>1303062
>>1303062
>>1303062
>>1303062
>>1303062

GOD DAMN IT YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS SHOULD READ THE THREAD FIRST

>> No.1303606

>>1303571
Your shit-tier grammar/syntax/spelling and overall faggoty method of communication (including your non-ironic/sarcastic use of exclamation points) has led me to the conclusion that you are either Indian or Arab. Even if you aren't enjoy your shit-tier genetics, you will never be able to compare to my physical/mental/moral superiority you non-aesthetic (probably shit skin) biscuit dough bodied basement dwelling neckbeard. Would you like some peanut butter to go with your jelly? PS >>1303347 You mirin?
Also, this entire post was written in iambic pentameter.

>> No.1303673

>>1303606
Faggot, that post wasn't in iambic pentameter, why would you even try to claim that??? HAHA the english major doesn't even know what iambic pentameter is

>> No.1303684

>>1303606
Sorry, but that's not iambic pentameter 0/10 would not read again

>> No.1303704

>>1303673
>>1303684
facepalm.jpg
GOD. You faggots are THE DEFINITION of EASY. Not only did you not tl;dr me (lol fags) but you went through and re-read my post multiple times to determine the rhyme scheme lol. You faggots are too easy.

>> No.1303715

>>1303704
lol, i hate you for your asshole ego, but i have to admit, you are good at what you do...

>> No.1303748

>>1302948
seen it a million times.
Maybe you should get an older gif while you're at it?

>> No.1303767

>>1302948
I'm so tired of all these "i'm having an argument" threads. It's like some kind of armor for trolls.

>> No.1303781

>>1303767
Are you calling me a troll kind sir?

>> No.1303788

>>1303781
If the shoe fits, what do you do with it?

>> No.1303795

>>1303788
Stick it up your ass along with the rest of my foot.
HERP DERP. Wow are all of you anti-social faggots or what? Who talks like this?

>> No.1303831

OKAY ALREADY... You're a moderately successful troll. Now get out and leave us alone already. You're clearly not from this board...

>> No.1303877

>>1303831
/sci/= http://www.bigguts.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4109