/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.12795276]

Holy shit chemistry is soooo boring. Imagine actually majoring in this dead subject.

[Anonymous No.12795313]

>>12795276
>chemistry is soooo boring
here's your syringe anon

[Anonymous No.12795357]

>THE top STEM university in my country
>Chemistry undergrad gpa req is literally a whole point below chem.eng, mech eng, biotech, physics and biology

Not sure if people just absolutely hate it from high school or think it's really hard, but it's really weird looking at gpa requirements and seeing Chemistry being such a huge outlier.

[Anonymous No.12795368]

>>12795357
I think a lot of people are intimidated by chemistry

[Anonymous No.12795378]

>>12795357
chemistry is not as lineal and basic as physics so it's a lot more obscure and basically you have to learn all by heart that ust be why there is so many women there

[Anonymous No.12795385]

Based pamposter

[Anonymous No.12795397]

>>12795378
Agreed. I also think there are more shitty teachers in chem than in math or physics.

[Anonymous No.12795400]

>>12795368
>>12795378
My guess is that people in high school fucking hates Chemistry because it's all fucking acids and bases + buffers and all that boring basic shit.

[Anonymous No.12795402]

>>12795276

[Anonymous No.12795436]

>>12795400
most certainly true and too much paperwork / theory for the basic stuff. I regularely check the chem & physics (last grade) homework for my little sister and they want a (theoretical) protocol on how to operate a bunsen burner or to conduct an experiment of static electricity by using rubber and scraps of paper.

[Anonymous No.12795461]

>>12795436
think chem in high school for me was like 3-4 months of acids/bases, solubility, electrochem and equilibrium, then maybe 2 chapters of the good stuff like nuclear chemistry, spectro, inorganic and (((orbitals)))

[Anonymous No.12795463]

>>12795436
yeah theprotocol and big guy lab/safety memes. pure IFLS bullshit mostly unnecesary.
>>12795400
nah we had organic and still hated it because it's a pain in the ass to learn all hte list of reactions

[Anonymous No.12795468]

>>12795461
>>12795436
what shithole are u from btw?

[Anonymous No.12795476]

>>12795468
US of A

[Anonymous No.12795483]

>>12795468
Norway

[Anonymous No.12795520]

>>12795476
>>12795483
weird my country is literally 3rd worlld and had more chemisrty in my HS, but it was just because my teacher was a cunt and made my study more than the rest (long story). argentina btw

[Anonymous No.12795536]

>>12795520
I was there when I was 9.
Must have been around 1997.
Very nice place. It wasn't third world at all. But maybe it has gone to shit I dunno I don't follow spicland news.

[Anonymous No.12795558]

Chemistry is the study of the properties and change of matter.
What's more fundamental than that?

[Anonymous No.12795559]

>>12795536
yes it went to shit like you wouldnt believe. in that era my dad earned 1500 USD a month and now 550 USD on pretty much the same possition (state) cause the state is broke and so is all the economy. wish it were the 90s

[Anonymous No.12795564]

>>12795558
electronics clerarly are an example and newtonian physics

[Anonymous No.12795568]

>>12795564
Chemistry is just applied physics my dude

[Anonymous No.12795576]

>>12795568
so it's not more basic, then retard

[Anonymous No.12795593]

>>12795576
cool your autism dude.

[Anonymous No.12795600]

What we need to make transmutation viable energetically and make most of chemistry obsolete?

[Anonymous No.12795608]

>>12795558
Calm down, Walter. You're dead.

[Anonymous No.12795628]

>>12795276
Chemistry can be a good minor for additional courses on lab techniques, thats about all its useful for at the undergrad level though

[Anonymous No.12796933]

>>12795468
Actual dude you replied to here. Am from Germany. I think our safety memes are equal to the USA, except that it's not enforced to wear gloves in chem labs at all times but only when neccessary / having to deal with hazardous chems

[Anonymous No.12796945]

>>12795276
>Be me
>Chem teacher is an activist trying to explain how the cold war nearly ended all life on the planet
>Starts talking big words like 'solution' and 'ionizing' in a room filled with kids
>I barely grasped the existence of atoms in physics class, teacher now expects me to understand their combinations out of nowhere
>Chemical formulas only told me what is going on, not why it is going on
>Fucks with my basic concept of a 'formula' I aquired during math class
>Miraculously build up an aversion to this subject

In my head, chemistry starts with atoms and ends with proteins. I don't know what it is, I don't want to know what it is.

[Anonymous No.12796950]

>>12796945
Are you unironically brain damaged?

[Anonymous No.12797001]

For me, I had to learn organic chemistry first before I learnt 'basic' chemistry
Yes there was a lot I didn't know in organic chem such as intermolecular forces etc etc. But seeing the way that organic molecules were drawn gave me a bit of a practical approach to chemistry that I could apply to everyday life.
This made the process of learning basic chemistry so much easier.

[Anonymous No.12797014]

>tfw in my second year of Chem undergrad
>still not found a subject that I truly find interesting
>been through gen chem, organic chem, inorganic, analytical
>this semester i'm doing organic spectro, thermodynamics and chromatography

Guess organic spectro is a'ight, but the rest is garbage.. At least I can choose my own courses next semester

[Anonymous No.12797069]

>>12797014
Of all the subjects, how can you not be into inorganic chemistry?

[Anonymous No.12797089]

>>12797069
>560 different orbital theories
>symmetry operations
>term tables and operations
>allowed and forbidden spin transitions
>coordination compounds

Gee, I wonder!

[Anonymous No.12797100]

The industrial world loves chemistry, its much more useful than physics or abstract math.

[Anonymous No.12797165]

>>12795276
If you don't understand physical chemistry then you'll never amount to anything.
>Batteries
>Thermochemical energy
>Hydrogen production
>Hydrogen storage
>Biological processes
Chemistry is everything. I say that as an engineer

[Anonymous No.12797168]

>>12797089
I loved symmetry and point groups.
Inorganic is great. All sorts of colorful compounds, crystals, and novel elements that aren't all C,H,N and O.
Schlenk lines are fun.

[Anonymous No.12797173]

>>12797165
Still haven't taken P chem. It's only an elective for my BS and I don't think it will be offered at my institution by the time I graduate.
Any good books so I can teach myself?

[Anonymous No.12797175]

>>12797069
Given that the study of organometallics has only been around for about fifty years I'd say it's a good field to get into. A lot of things have yet to be studied.

[Anonymous No.12797182]

>>12795357
What's the difference between studying chemical engineering and pure chemistry?

[Anonymous No.12797198]

>>12797173
>Any good books so I can teach myself?
P.Atkins - Physical chem, any edition

[Anonymous No.12797204]

>>12795276
"dead subject"
chemistry is the field that makes your touchy touchy phones and literally everything surrounding you possible

[Anonymous No.12797218]

>>12797198
from a cursory glance I can see why you, or that anon, said physical chemistry is everything.
Thanks for the recommendation.

[Anonymous No.12797229]

>>12797182
Chemical engineers deal more with building things like ammonium nitrate plants

[Anonymous No.12797236]

>>12795276
>boring
I can see where you're coming from.
>dead subject
lol

[Anonymous No.12797242]

>>12797204
>electrical engineering is the field that makes your touchy touchy phones and literally everything surrounding you possible
ftfy

[Anonymous No.12797244]

I think Chemistry has one of the biggest entry barriers because it's really hard to see or conceptualize how Chemistry works since's it's dealing almost solely with atoms and their reactions.

[Anonymous No.12797255]

I love chemistry. If you guys would only know its way cooler as physics.

[Anonymous No.12797259]

>>12797242
Good thing that there's no chemistry in semiconductors, glass, plastics, eh.

[Anonymous No.12797262]

>Chemistry is the study of atoms
>There's literally, LITERALLY atoms in everything

checkmate, engineerfags

[Anonymous No.12797278]

>>12796945
I get what point you're trying to make, but anybody who is like that is already fucking retarded and probably not doing too well in any other subject.

[Anonymous No.12797286]

Anyone got any good hacks/tips for physical chem or is it just a grind to learn how entropy, enthalpy, gibbs, hemholtz, temperature,pressure, and volume are connected?

Currently learning about Maxwell relations, and all I'm seeing atm are lots of equations, but I don't get the main point of it all

[Anonymous No.12797337]

>>12795276

[Anonymous No.12797395]

>>12795276
I took chemistry twice in high school, once in college. Nothing sticks, idk why.

[Anonymous No.12797602]

>>12795476
>>12795483
>>12796933
Do you guys not do organic chemistry before university/college, then? In the UK we do a lot about electrons moving about, resonance structures, carboxylic acids, ketones and aldehydes, double bonds getting attacked by halogens etc. etc. all as part of our A-levels (the last 2 years of high school to Americans).

[Anonymous No.12797634]

>>12795276
Imagine actually majoring in Business Admin / Accounting in the age of automation. It's worthless.

[Anonymous No.12797686]

>>12797602
Organic chemistry for me (Norway) consisted of IUPAC, and basic introduction into functional groups.

Literally hadn't heard of addition reactions before uni

[Anonymous No.12797762]

>>12797686
We had to do in high school A-level chemistry in the UK the reaction conditions and mechanisms, as alkanes, alkenes, halegenoalkanes, alcohols, carboxylic acid, aldehydes and ketones, arenes and other aromatic compunds like phenylamines, halobenezens, nitrobenzenes, and phenylketones, acyl chlorides, gringards reagents, esters, amides and amines

[Anonymous No.12797861]

>>12795357
at least it's higher than cs

[Anonymous No.12797864]

>>12797255
dubs of truth.

[Anonymous No.12797889]

>>12797602
>double bonds getting attacked by halogens etc. etc.
We can't teach that in the US because our food and water is halogenated, which is safe and effective according the ADA and GRAS (generally recognized as safe) by the FDA.

[Anonymous No.12797890]

>>12797861
hahah no not here, bachelor in cs is a whole point higher, master in cs is 1.5 points higher

[Anonymous No.12797922]

>>12795276
Why am I so attracted to pale skin? My own skin is relatively pale, but surely there is more to it.

[Anonymous No.12798001]

>>12795276
Scientifically speaking, why I'm seeing so much theoffice posting recently?

[Anonymous No.12798016]

>>12795276
Chemistry is literally how you work , how on earth could it be boring?

[Anonymous No.12798126]

>>12797922
Darkies have low sexual dimorphisim

[Anonymous No.12798163]

>>12798126
>Darkies have low sexual dimorphisim
are you fucking serious?

[Anonymous No.12798319]

>>12798001
It's a f*male who has nothing else saved on her drive.

[Anonymous No.12798374]

How is chemistry still a thing when we've discovered all the elements now?

[Anonymous No.12798445]

>>12796945
You should get tested for whatever autism spectrum disorder you have and then subsequently hang yourself

[Anonymous No.12798799]

>>12798374
Because there might be more elements to discover
Like hair. We still don't actually know what hair is made of.
Isn't nature wild?

[Anonymous No.12798891]

>>12797602
yeah i'm the argie. quite surprised too. i think our system is based in the english one though or perhaps the french in some things

[Anonymous No.12800169]

>>12798374
Chemistry is the science of changing their combinations.

That's like asking how english is still a thing since we've already got 26 letters

[Anonymous No.12800214]

>>12797242
Electrical engineering is just applied chemistry

[Anonymous No.12801096]

>>12795402
topical pic rel anon
also orgo reaction mechanisms are a scam

[Anonymous No.12801174]

>>12795276
Imagine studying anything other than physics or math

[Anonymous No.12801671]

>>12797204
Fake news. There's literally no jobs that require a solely chemistry degree, what you are describing is engineering, and even then, there's nothing that you are actually designing or inventing, you're an over-educated lab monkey who gets paid barely above 60 k if you're lucky.

[Anonymous No.12801689]

I think one of the problems with chemistry is that you're very rarely given examples of how the obscure shit is applied. What does the symmetry groups of orbital arrangements have to do with anything in the real world.

[Anonymous No.12801756]

>>12795276
I don't know, there's a bunch of literature related degrees and people really love it, plus shit like film studies and so on, so there's probably a lot more going on there.

[Anonymous No.12801766]

>>12801174
>math
booring

[Anonymous No.12801772]

>>12796945
>I barely grasped the existence of atoms in physics class

How did you not already get this in like, primary school?

[Anonymous No.12802076]

>>12801689
Group orbitals tells you why certain molecules react with other molecules.

You can have a process that has enough activation energy to start a chemical reaction, but there's no symmetry for the atoms so they don't line up to make new chemical bonds.

[Anonymous No.12803652]

>>12801766
physics is lot more boring imo, just nigger's attempt to use math in th real world

[Anonymous No.12803681]

>>12801689
spectra, radical reactions, photochemistry physics etc

[Anonymous No.12803700]

>>12795463
safety is bs. They treat potassium permanganate like its actually harmful. JFC you could swim in the stuff and you'd be ok (maybe a little browner at the end).

[Anonymous No.12805518]

>>12798799
Anon, i...