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>it's literally shit like cancer leaping from the pages into my eyes
textbook thread btw

>> No.12793563
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>>12793203

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>> No.12793643

>>12793597
Are these actually worth reading?

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>> No.12793675

hoffman and kunze is cancer. Defining matrix multiplication before defining vector space homomorphisms is literally 90 IQ tier engineering fodder.

>> No.12793823

>>12793651
I want to impress anons with my geometry skills, how legit is this list?

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>> No.12793904

>>12793823
It's legit, I've personally gone through most. Don't slack though

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>>12793823
>>12793904
For reference, red circled is what I've completed (notes and exercises) and blue is what I'm going through right now.

>> No.12793950

>>12793643
Yes, they are awesome.

>> No.12793974

>>12793597
who even is the target audience of these books? should i read them during or after graduate school? can they replace goldstein/jackson/sakurai/pathria?

>> No.12793982

>>12793974
I read them in undergrad, they're beautiful dude.

>> No.12794002

>>12793593
Finally, someone gets it. Serge Lang for the win.

>> No.12794024

Is there any of these lists for harmonic analysis, PDEs, GMT and other analysis topics?

>> No.12794076

>>12794024
Use Taylor I, II, and III for PDEs, and Grafakos for Fourier/Harmonic analysis.

Afterward, you can move on to Hörmander I, II, III and IV.

>> No.12794091

>>12793982
They're garbage. I hate those books. Handwavy trash.

>> No.12794102

>>12794091
Suck my handwavy dick you chubby coon. Lanlifshitz isn't handwavy at all.

>> No.12794105

>>12794102
>Lanlifshitz isn't handwavy at all
Take a math course to see what an actual proof looks like.

>> No.12794107

>>12794091
It isn’t handwavy, it’s just too dense for you.

>> No.12794112

>>12794107
>>12794102
Have you even actually read those books? How can someone who has read the books think they're not handwavy as fuck?

>> No.12794113

>>12794105
This is a physics book, not a math one. Most mathematical physics books assume knowledge of physics beforehand. If you want more rigorous physics books, you can still use those, although it might be annoying.

>> No.12794126

>>12794112
They’re handwavy compared to math books, but they’re very dense for physics books, especially the graduate classical mechanics one that’s only 150 pages or something ridiculous.

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>> No.12794566

>>12793865
based

>> No.12794579

>>12793593
>math
>piss yellow cover
Suits them right

>> No.12794589

>>12794105
Hello retard, do you know the difference between theoretical and mathematical physics or you're too inbred to understand it?

>> No.12794761

>>12793982
I read mechanics but didn't really like anything about it. Maybe i'm just retarded.

>> No.12795185

>>12793651
One of them is called chapter 0 and the other one has a 4, is there like a full series?

>> No.12795376

>>12794091
Filtered
Landau's quantum mechanics treatment is better done elsewhere and so is much of the electromagnetism content, but the rest is very well done.
Statistical physics is especially good

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Someone rate and/or add something to this list please.

>> No.12796789

>>12796701
I tried this list, couple yeah ago, seriously. Remove the top four books, maybe replace them with "mathematics for the million", switch the calculus book for Lang's calculus, put the proof books off to the side, and otherwise it's a 6/10 list. Dummit and Foote can be supplemented by Lang's algebra.

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4 Dif Geo

>> No.12797099

Tao or rudin?

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Here is a selection of books I find good.

>> No.12797344

>>12793916
are you a phd student?

>> No.12797495

>>12797344
Nah I did an MA and fucked off to finance. Don't regret it at all

>> No.12799343

>>12797495
do you mK a lot of money now?

>> No.12800222

>>12793916
How long did it take you to finish Amann/Escher's Analysis series? Chapter 1 of volume 1 seems like a drag to finish imo. Did you do every exercise?

>> No.12800409

>>12793203
What mathematics do I need to know in order to understand modern cryptography?

I have high school + calc1-3 + statistics under my belt.

>> No.12800769

>>12799343
I make enough
>>12800222
iirc it took about 5 weeks at an okay pace. And no, I will just choose a few (2 to 5) exercises from a set that are more than just basic checking, i.e. they require some real thought. It's good practice to learn what is and what isn't worth doing.

>> No.12800778

>>12800222
>>12800769
>5 weeks
I misread your post lol. That was just for the first chapter. For all 3 books it took about a year and a half, though I went pretty slow imo and took many days off.

>> No.12800780

>>12793597
If you can get them in non shit photo copier print quality theyre quite good. Done portions of classical, qm and stat mech. Always felt like I learned something working on problems or reading the text. Maybe not a good ref as a first course? I think one needs decent maturity to read and benefit from

>> No.12800836

>>12800778
> 5 weeks
That's kinda crazy considering Amann/Escher's book treats Analysis at an even more abstract level than Rudin. Do you have a previous background in Calculus or Analysis?

> pick good exercises
I'm quite terrible at this kek. I mostly end up over obsessing in solving every single exercise for a day.

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>> No.12800888

>>12800836
>That one exercise in munkres, where he asks you to classify everything
>Lang assigns you to buy eisenbud and prove every theorem yourself without looking
It was over before it even began, completionist bros

>> No.12800944

>>12793203
Anyone have an easy book on statistics? I'm right brained and I want to be able to understand statistics for Econ/History

>> No.12801216

>>12800944
Stat is best learned after a foundational understanding of calculus. Afterwards read Grinstead and Snell's Introduction to probability.

>> No.12801230

>>12793593
I never understood why Geometry comes before Basic Mathematics in this list. Pretty sure you should read Geometry after Basic Math.

>> No.12801255

>>12793675
It's just a definition. Do you need motivation and hand-holding for everything? Now that's the true mark of the engineer.

>> No.12801268

>>12797099
Tao is a chink, Rudin is a kike.
Literally pick your poison.

>> No.12801269

University lecturer going to weite a book here. Any tips on how to make it awesome and really useful for students and other lecturers alike?

>> No.12801274

>>12801268
What do you suggest then?

>> No.12801288

>>12801274
Maybe Tom Apostol? He was of Greek descent. They say the Greeks were good at math, right?

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>>12801268 >>12801288
>Tao is a chink, Rudin is a kike, Apostol is greek

Come Home White Man

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>>12801268 >>12801288
>Tao is a chink, Rudin is a kike, Apostol is greek

Come Home White Men

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>>12801318
>German authors
You're a literal Nazi.

>> No.12801449

>>12801288
Kinda baby tier
>>12801318
Was thinking about this also but most of the people don't know it

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>pic related not on any of the lists

>> No.12801509

>>12801318
this isn't a good book for self-study, tao is better.

>> No.12801517

>>12794589
Is theoretical physics where you're allowed to say A=>B implies B=>A? Because that's what Landau does in his book.

>> No.12801629

>>12801517
Sauce? Or you talk shit

>> No.12801843

This shit is a magical tome. Best Winter research for any grower.

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>>12801843
Welp.

>> No.12802219

>>12800888
That's why I can't progress much further into the theory. I keep PROOVING.

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>>12801450

>> No.12802863

>>12801843
...what are you growing, anon

>> No.12802976

>>12793675
what do you recommend instead

>> No.12803097

Why are there like 10 charts for mathematics but only a handful for natural sciences? Where's the chem book charts at

>> No.12803725

>>12796789
Do one need to study proof before starting analysis and such?

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>the proof is left as an exercise for the reader.

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>> No.12804855

For anon who self study math, how do you pick a problem? How do you know when to move onto the next topic?