/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.12787145]

I honestly believe that there is NOTHING wrong with believing the "experts". I'm not smart enough to question my surgeon while he's operating on me. The foundations of society are built upon trust. All civil functions rely on trust. If you cannot trust others, there is no community and you must do everything yourself.

>b-but fallacy of authority
>b-but questioning is good

No one is suggesting a rigorous proof of anything, whether a mathematical proof, scientific proof, or proof of efficacy in medicine can be demonstrated by authority. Questioning science IS in fact good. Ideally, anyone should be able to question science. However, questioning makes sense only when it is done by competent people. It is not the responsibility of scientists to entertain every single question - especially those raised by laymen. There are far too many important things to be done.

tl;dr
Trust the scientists because you aren't smart enough to question them (for 99.99% of the laymen who aren't scientists).

[Anonymous No.12787252]

>>12787145
Science is not about intelligence but about following the scientific method. Basically all arguments are settled by experiments, not by "oh im so smart im clearly right".
Example: Theory: Drinking 10 grams of cyanide will kill you. This has been experimentally tested so its scientifically true. You dont need to know biochemistry to understand "drinking 10 grams of cyanide=death"
Most science is like that, fairly easy for laymen too. Eg: Tomorrow there will be a lunar eclipse->Next day a lunar eclipse happened". Everyone understands this without having to be an astronomer.
You are right when you say society is built by trust, but no one can simply trust everything. I for one dont trust the government, thats not a scientific or intelligence problem, its a social problem.

[Anonymous No.12787259]

>>12787145
give me your wallet I'm a wallet inspector. I also moonlight as a boobie inspector so I'll be seeing your mother shortly.
trust I'm an expert.

[Anonymous No.12787262]

>>12787145
It is a crime to judge scientific ideas by their political standing or by who proposed it, it is just not done. It is the worst thing you can do as a scientific evaluator. You need to evaluate it technically, and if you can't, not to judge the politics.

[Anonymous No.12787268]

>>12787145
You are clearly biased toward the idea that scientists "just know" what they're doing. Nuh uh. Never presume knowledge. Scientists often repeat things based on authority, established from scanty or incomplete data.

[Anonymous No.12787269]

And then we have the Antimask squad who also preach about not taking the vaccine

Like
Nigger, if it does not work, the doctors won't wear them and take the shot before you could

[Anonymous No.12787278]

>>12787145
>I dont question my surgeon
Bullshit, you are questioning him by evaluating his experience and the collective experience of people that have underwent the surgery. You can basically check what the typical aftermath of a surgery is, typical complications, etc, and you dont need to be a surgeon to understand what post-surgery complications are or an anesthesiologist to know what pain is.

[Anonymous No.12787279]

>>12787145
Sounds about right to me anon. Going to be some seethe ITT though

[Anonymous No.12787284]

>>12787278
>he trusts the reviews of the surgeon
>he trusts the college of surgeons
>he trusts the hospital to release accurate information

[Anonymous No.12787287]

>>12787284
Trust them over some shitposter, alright
And yes, if they are not qualified, they won't have a medical license

[Anonymous No.12787294]

>>12787287
So you believe some experts but not others? What is the point you are trying to make? The board of surgeons is just a group of experts and you rely on their judgement of other surgeons. The issuing authority is similarly just a group of experts who lay judgement upon others who are allowed to practice their field. Who is to say the board of surgeon is right or wrong? YOU trust them instead of doing your own research because you, like me, are not surgeons and rely on others for guidance.

[Anonymous No.12787295]

>>12787269
so you're implying that there is no long term effects due to doctors taking it early?

[Anonymous No.12787303]

>>12787294
Yes because if the higher ups didn't do their jobs, they would be sued for huge amount of money, lose their license, and rot behind bars.

Honesty is enforced by accountability

[Anonymous No.12787305]

>>12787295
Chance of failure is one thing.
But whatever result happens is better than covid which also has its long-term effects on lung health and fertility

[Anonymous No.12787306]

>>12787284
>Im going to review the rewiews of the reviews

[Anonymous No.12787311]

>>12787145
>society is built on trust

Correct, and so is the relationship between me and my sense of intuition. If something feels off, it probably is, regardless of what some meme reasearch has to say.

>trust the scientists

Wich ones? I mean, if I take a plane I will trust the eingeneers that built it to have done a good enough job, but what about when scientists disagree? Sometimes two different doctors will propose two radically different treatments for the same condition (happened quite a few times to my family members) and at that point it is the patient who has to make the decision. Or what about when experts don't have the necessary knowledge to suggest policies but do so anyway (i.e. climate scientist proposing that we transition as fast as possible from using fossil fuels as energy sources without considering the economic impact this might have)?
Let's not even talk about meme fields like psychology or gender studies where the experst believe it's normal to put a 195 cm troon against a biological woman in an mma fight and things of that sort.

[Anonymous No.12787316]

>>12787305
>stick this knife in your eye
or
>stick this knife in your other eye
yeah I'm just going to stay inside. fuck you psychopaths.

[Anonymous No.12787320]

>>12787269
Doctors have been literally enslaved. Retired doctors got orders to go back to the hospital or else, like a military draft.

[Anonymous No.12787327]

>>12787320
Mistreating a skilled profession would result into a huge disaster. Treat a doctor badly, he kills a person and the entire hospital gets sued lol

[Anonymous No.12787329]

>>12787316
This ain't a lesser between two evils, bitch.
One is guaranteed to fuck you up.
The other only has an unproven chance of failure

[Anonymous No.12787334]

>>12787327
>would

[Anonymous No.12787335]

>>12787329
covid is guaranteed to fuck you up?

[Anonymous No.12787338]

>>12787335
Well, there are articles saying it leaves the lungs and sperm production very damaged.

[Anonymous No.12787339]

I’m a redpilled conservative so I’m an expert on everything.

[Anonymous No.12787347]

>>12787338
Of 100% of covid patients? With no recovery?

[Anonymous No.12787349]

>>12787347
Ask them

[Anonymous No.12787353]

>>12787347
By "them", I meant the doctors not some guy on /pol/

[Anonymous No.12787365]

>>12787349
Why ask them? Show me your data, im not the one claiming 100% of covid patients are fucked

[Anonymous No.12787369]

>>12787365
Because I am just a random shitposter, dumbass.
You go ask the experts.

[Anonymous No.12787398]

>>12787369
Oh so your claims of "covid=guarantee to fuck you up" were just a dumb shitpost? Quella surprise

[Anonymous No.12787404]

>>12787145
cool

[Anonymous No.12787406]

>>12787398
Nah, just parroting what the experts say. You go question them

[Anonymous No.12787411]

>>12787406
Liar. Your are not parroting them. The experts dont say covid fucks 100% of patients, you made that up.

[Anonymous No.12787414]

>>12787411
Does COVID-19 infections have long term effects?

Most people recover from the acute phase of the disease. However, some people continue to experience a range of effects for months after recovery—named long COVID—and damage to organs has been observed. Multi-year studies are underway to further investigate the long-term effects of the disease.

[Anonymous No.12787416]

>>12787145
I'm 100% sure that Eren will win

[Anonymous No.12787417]

>>12787411
>>12787365
Here. From CDC
>https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/long-term-effects.html

[Anonymous No.12787424]

>>12787417
>https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/long-term-effects.html
>While most persons with COVID-19 recover and return to normal health, some patients can have symptoms that can last for weeks or even months after recovery from acute illness.
Far from 100%

[Anonymous No.12787426]

>>12787424
So is getting stabbed.
Wear the mask.

[Anonymous No.12787435]

>>12787426
Still not 100%. You dun goofed

[Anonymous No.12787439]

>>12787435
Whatever. Wear the mask

[Anonymous No.12787456]

>>12787439
no

[Anonymous No.12787459]

>>12787456
You deserve to be denied of service then. Retarded shit

[Anonymous No.12787483]

>>12787145
Yep, maybe more accurately trust the consensus. Sure, there have been massive overhauls in the past, but hindsight is 2020, and now with the scientific method most of the foundations are well backed up. Most of the uncertainty lies in new and unresearched areas which don't often have any real world implementations yet.

[Anonymous No.12787493]

>>12787459
I put on my mask only when a guard asks me too and take it out immediately aftwerwards.

[Anonymous No.12787501]

>>12787145
Not gonna lie but youre disgusting

[Anonymous No.12787516]

>>12787493
Devilish

[Anonymous No.12787570]

>>12787145
I trust him as the leading expert in genocides

[Anonymous No.12787599]

>>12787145
>you aren't smart enough
False premise dumb fuck, intelligence and knowledge are not the same

[Anonymous No.12787655]

>>12787145
Its not the "experts" that are the problem, its that the media and those who toots the "trust the experts" horn only partially elect some "experts" in unanimous agreement to ostensibly represent a much larger body of experts and research that aren't congruent with each other. You've really missed the point with your thread.

[Anonymous No.12787682]

>>12787655
You're not wrong, but the problem is the vast majority of people who share that view will instead unironically consider absolute nutjob cranks quoted on Facebook and /pol/ as the true, valid experts telling you "what the media doesn't want you to know".

Mainstream media is the worst form of media, except for all of the other forms have been tried. (Partly joking, but mostly not, despite the fact I think all mainstream media is absolutely horrible and non-credible about most things. It's just that the organized alternatives somehow manage to be even more horrible.)

It's not very useful advice, but the best tip to someone uneducated and uninformed/unskilled is to basically not trust anyone or anything, be it "mainstream", "alt", or in between. Just live life with low confidence in any and all beliefs (besides subjective things like ethical positions)

If you are educated and fairly intelligent, then you just have to dig through basically dozens to hundreds of sources and people on a weekly basis and try to allot confidence percentages in a reasonable way (while still keeping almost all quite low)

[Anonymous No.12787683]

>>12787655
You're not wrong, but the problem is the vast majority of people who share that view will instead unironically consider absolute nutjob cranks quoted on Facebook and /pol/ as the true, valid experts telling you "what the media doesn't want you to know".

Mainstream media is the worst form of media, except for all of the other forms that have been tried. (Partly joking, but mostly not, despite the fact that I think all mainstream media is absolutely horrible and non-credible about most things. It's just that the organized alternatives somehow manage to be even more horrible, which is quite a feat.)

It's not very useful advice, but the best tip to someone uneducated and uninformed/unskilled is to basically not trust anyone or anything, be it "mainstream", "alt", or in between. Just live life with low confidence in any and all beliefs (besides subjective things like ethical positions)

If you are educated and fairly intelligent, then you just have to dig through basically dozens to hundreds of sources and people on a weekly basis and try to allot confidence percentages in a reasonable way (while still keeping almost all quite low)

[Anonymous No.12787697]

>>12787682
>It's not very useful advice, but the best tip to someone uneducated and uninformed/unskilled is to basically not trust anyone or anything, be it "mainstream", "alt", or in between.
Idiots should trust their instincts that has been masterfully tailored by evolution to keep the organism alive, and they should go to church and be fearful that they will burn in hell for eternity if they do any social malpractice.

[Anonymous No.12787747]

>I'm not smart enough to question my surgeon while he's operating on me.
If that surgeon killed several patients, then you have all the right to question him.

[Anonymous No.12788496]

>>12787145
The problem is that the internet gives people a false sense of understanding. Now you have armies of people reading Wikipedia and other online resources believing they know what they are talking about.

[Anonymous No.12788517]

The problem with placing mindless trust in authority is that becoming an authority in the modern world requires no intelligence or virtue. The majority of professionals are extroverts who lied, cheated, and networked their way into their profession.

[Anonymous No.12788691]

>>12787493
So not only are you retarded, but you're too pussy to stand up to a guard

[Anonymous No.12789617]

>>12787145
Have fun buying overpriced drugs recommended by your doctor shilling for big pharma.

[Anonymous No.12789631]

>>12787145
There's enough philosophy to say the whole idea of trusting the experts is a matter of choice.

AND YES I MEAN THE DAAHHHHTAAAAA (American accent) too.

[Anonymous No.12789691]

>>12789617
not all of us live in the schizo hellscape known as the poonited sharts of poomerica

[Anonymous No.12789710]

>>12789691
I forgot to type t. Russian, anon.

[Anonymous No.12789840]

>>12788691
>pussy
You are not impressing anyone. I dont have to fight strangers on the street on a daily basis to not wear a mask. Mask goes on, mask comes off, takes me 5 seconds. Oh, you mean i have to pick physical fights every day as a symbolic stand for my beliefs? Retard.

[Anonymous No.12789859]

>>12787145
I trust the experts
I don't trust the """experts"""

[Anonymous No.12789865]

>>12789859
you mean (((experts)))

[Anonymous No.12789882]

>>12787259
aw geeze well if you say so...
*drops wallet into pile of spaghetti*
aw darn-it... you wouldn't happen to be italian, would you?

[Anonymous No.12789884]

>>12787269
I learned the hard way that doctors have no clue what they're talking about.
Now I can't leave the house on sunny days.
Since then I've questioned just about everything a doctor has told me.
Guess how much of it has been bullshit

[Anonymous No.12789930]

>>12787145
>I honestly believe that there is NOTHING wrong with believing the "experts". I'm not smart enough to question my surgeon while he's operating on me. The foundations of society are built upon trust. All civil functions rely on trust. If you cannot trust others, there is no community and you must do everything yourself.
>>b-but fallacy of authority
>>b-but questioning is good
>No one is suggesting a rigorous proof of anything, whether a mathematical proof, scientific proof, or proof of efficacy in medicine can be demonstrated by authority. Questioning science IS in fact good. Ideally, anyone should be able to question science. However, questioning makes sense only when it is done by competent people. It is not the responsibility of scientists to entertain every single question - especially those raised by laymen. There are far too many important things to be done.
>tl;dr
>Trust the scientists because you aren't smart enough to question them (for 99.99% of the laymen who aren't scientists).

[Anonymous No.12789940]

>>12787269
Masks haven't done shit lmao

[Anonymous No.12789947]

>>12787259

[Anonymous No.12790060]

>>12787145
What do you call the med student that graduated at the bottom of his class?

Doctor

[Anonymous No.12790075]

no med student graduating from the bottom of his class is advising on fucking policy you absolute cunt

[Anonymous No.12790288]

>>12789884
Yes, you are totally smarter than a doctor. LMAO

>>12789940
>source: /pol/

[Anonymous No.12790376]

Everyone in this thread has basically said "I agree with experts until I disagree with them then they are wrong."

Everyone here is biased to their opinions which means they don't necessarily think that expert advice is bad.

In other words, you are all anti-intellectual bastards.

[Anonymous No.12790465]

>>12790376
>boths sides are the same
Nigger, shut the fuck up
Do you think that the doctors spent years in training just to spread misinformation that can get their license revoked?

Wear the mask and stop making it harder for the medical experts

[Anonymous No.12790510]

>>12790288
>abloo bloo bloo people disagree with me

[Anonymous No.12790513]

>>12790510
>abloo bloo bloo experts disagree with me

[Anonymous No.12790544]

>>12787145
>you aren't smart enough to question them (for 99.99% of the laymen who aren't scientists).
Why yes, yes I am.

[Anonymous No.12790565]

>>12790513
>pass mandates
>they achieve nothing
>studies indicate dubious efficacy
>failures of widespread mask usage in the past
>experts flip-flop on masks
Sorry homie, but they ain't gonna save your bitch ass

[Anonymous No.12790571]

>>12790565
Wow. No wonder the people on the frontlines are wearing them. Retard

[Anonymous No.12790603]

>>12790571
>frontlines
I laughed.

[Anonymous No.12790611]

>>12790603
Took you 10 mins to say that?

[Anonymous No.12790614]

>>12790611
Yeah, I was jamming to Ozzy

[Anonymous No.12790621]

>>12790614
You mean the guy who gladly took the shot and felt relieved to have it?

Why not follow his lead?

[Anonymous No.12790626]

>>12790614
Oh, and he is also selling facemasks. Wear them

[Anonymous No.12790646]

I agree, in fact I believe the government should be only composed of experts, no politicians should be involved since their job is literally to fool you.

[Anonymous No.12790650]

>>12790621
I been a bad bad boy
No use sayin' sorry
It's something that I enjoy

[Anonymous No.12790656]

>>12790650
haha exdeee

[Anonymous No.12790660]

>>12787145
You are an NCP

[Anonymous No.12790721]

>>12787145
>I'm dumb so I do what I am told
Most likely the best thing for you desu

[Anonymous No.12790728]

>>12787145
I bet you are gonna eat the bugs too you stupid cunt

[Anonymous No.12791567]

>>12787145
How can anyone dispute this?
Time is finite for mortal creatures like us. It is unpragmatic to question everything.

[Anonymous No.12791613]

>>12787252
>>12787259
Kek, OP completely, immediately, and effortlessly destroyed

[Anonymous No.12791621]

Do man-eating tigers trust "experts"? We are not the same

[Anonymous No.12791626]

>>12787683
>You're not wrong, but the problem is the vast majority of people who share that view will instead unironically consider absolute nutjob cranks quoted on Facebook and /pol/ as the true, valid experts telling you "what the media doesn't want you to know".
Then maybe the media and politicians shouldn't have done everything in their power to create widespread distrust of themselves.
Now you want to blame people for being abused by the people who were supposed to be leading them.

[Anonymous No.12791628]

>>12787269
I guess that explains why there are so many healthcare workers who refuse to get the vaccine too, right?

[Anonymous No.12791629]

You can literally be a researcher on the cutting edge of your field and no one will give a fuck what you say until you whip out a PhD on the exact subject you're debating like it's a 10 inch cock

[Anonymous No.12791637]

>>12791567
>It is unpragmatic to question everything.
Nice strawman.
I'll trust some experts and not trust others.
For example, I trust that the redpilled electrician from my church knows how to wire my house.
On the other hand, I won't trust the lisping faggot on CNN telling me to get in the pod.

[Anonymous No.12791821]

>>12791628
You mean the guys who are wearing masks 24/7?

[El Arcón No.12791827]

Skepticism is the correct behavior.

[Anonymous No.12791847]

>>12791827
Skepticism =! Fearmongering
Telling people not to wear mask and avoid the vaccine leads to severe mistrust of the medical experts which makes their job more difficult

[Anonymous No.12791851]

>>12791637
That is literally the strawman, you fucking dork.
>comparing an electrician with a reporter
The fuck you mean.

All electricians agree of what makes a good circuit.
And so does medical experts towards medicine

[Anonymous No.12791854]

[El Arcón No.12791866]

>>12791847
Yeah but what reason is there to think the virus exists at all? Seems like mistrust is good if they're all lying.

[Anonymous No.12791872]

>>12791866
Well, all medical experts from multiple continents agree on it.
You going to say that it's a global conspiracy?

Damn tinfoil hats

[Anonymous No.12791882]

>>12791847
The medical community and government's conduct is what bred mistrust more than anything

[Anonymous No.12791887]

>>12791882
Maybe your government.
Everyone outside of America agreed to wear masks. You're literally the only ones filled with antivaxx, antimaxx, and climate change deniers.
And also the lowest IQ among the developed nations

[Anonymous No.12791900]

It's okay to not question authorities on matters you know nothing about if that's the principles you live by. I would rather question authorities to gain a better understanding. Just don't force the consequences of your willing ignorance onto me.

I know you don't value your own life, likely because you're weak, a manlet, low IQ, and an ugly NPC.

Just take a look at the biggest lawsuit settlements, most involve some kind of biotech company. If you've ever gone to university for chemistry/biochemistry/molecular biology you'd possibly have had professors bring up certain chemicals/drugs in the past that fucked up/killed a lot of people in the past as a way to give context of why certain details are important.

[Anonymous No.12791925]

>>12787145
3X3XPERT oPINION cHAMPPPsss

[Anonymous No.12791928]

[Anonymous No.12791941]

>>12791887
>blah, blah, blah Americans dumb
Yawn

[Anonymous No.12791948]

>>12791941
What do you have to prove the stereotype wrong?

[Anonymous No.12791954]

>>12791948
American developed mRNA vaccines

[Anonymous No.12791956]

>>12791954
And also the land of antivaxxers.

[Anonymous No.12792242]

>>12787145
>surgeon
A bio-carpenter. You've...use a hammer and saw before, right, Anon?

[Anonymous No.12792257]

>>12787269
Both mRNA vaccines now have proven severe side effects. It is a dangerous treatment

[Anonymous No.12792260]

>>12787284
Well yeah if his board certification is from Guam I'll have some questions.

[Anonymous No.12792452]

>>12791925
Why is it impossible to go on this website and not see inter racial shit spammed on every board?
Can you fuck off and kill yourself please. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.12792500]

I don't trust anybody but myself. That being said, sometimes you need to go along to get along in order to keep moving forward. So I do. But only until I don't need to anymore.

[Anonymous No.12792509]

still waiting for the army of doctors and nards doing spanish inquisition thing...tho, maybe this whole thing is it

[Anonymous No.12792581]

>>12787252
fpbp

[Anonymous No.12792601]

Remember when experts decided that saturated fats are bad for you?

[Anonymous No.12792605]

>>12787145
>Muh explaining!
Retard.
Just show me the fucking data. That's it.
I don't want an "expert" to tell me what to do without supporting that with evidence, and even then, I have the liberty to say fuck off and do whatever I want anyways.

[Anonymous No.12793464]

>>12792257
Source?

[Anonymous No.12793589]

The experts had guidelines to deal with this pandemic and they decided to screw on them and attempt things that weren't backed by evidence.
And we can't critize them because thanks to memes like the flat earth, any disagreement with supposedly science-backed public policy is now " conspiracy theories".

[Anonymous No.12793657]

>>12787145
Most of these “experts” are completely incompetent graduate students or autistic savants that only “know” anything in their tiny field of specialization. Scientists (good or not) are not equipped to make decisions on public policy. Go actually meet a brilliant scientist, they are completely nuts. If you are “trusting the experts”, you are lettings nerds that never left school decide how you live your life.

[Anonymous No.12793750]

>>12787252
>tfw op gets obliterated and it's not me this time

[Anonymous No.12793757]

>>12787269
doctor's stop studying acter becoming doctors. Maybe every once in a while. But a doctor is too busy to have time from studying the new stuff, they have to trust what the "health experts" say.

[Anonymous No.12793809]

>>12787145
I really hope this is a troll but it might not, as industrial cartels-enforced scientism and even technofascism, is a thing.
If you are not a troll, kill yourself my man

[Anonymous No.12793826]

FFS real scientists publish. They literally write everything down and reference everything. It's not a matter of trust. If you're not sure of something, then you are free to read the research for yourself.

In all likelihood, without at least 3 years graduate study you're unlikely to understand it but still it's there.

That's not to say that everything published is without mistakes but guess what, you can read research from more than just one study.

[Anonymous No.12794103]

ITT: don’t trust experts because they have been wrong sometimes

yet you all trust experts anyways is OP’s point. whether you want to or not or you realize it or not, you rely on experts constantly and there is nothing wrong with that.

[Anonymous No.12794121]

>>12793826
No one can be knowledgeable about all relevant fields in today’s world. Therefore you in fact DO rely on experts. Every single civil institution relies on experts. The courts rely on experts to give testimony constantly.

Anon what field are you in? You can’t seriously tell me you are able to research everything in all subject areas outside of your own. You simply trust experts or a body of experts to tell you what is right or wrong in those fields. Most people. Most laymen are not experts in anything. Most people have never read a research paper?

[Anonymous No.12794581]

>>12793757
And how does that make them less reliable than some redneck on the net?

[Anonymous No.12794787]

>>12787145

[Anonymous No.12794801]

[Anonymous No.12794805]

[Anonymous No.12794806]

>>12794787
Well, I mean the middle one isn't technically wrong, asbestos IS a good insulator.

[Anonymous No.12794834]

>>12787145
>I'm not smart enough to question my surgeon while he's operating on me.
A surgeon literally strapped me down as a perfectly healthy infant, and literally amputated my foreskin for no valid medical reason, despite it being a normal, natural, healthy body part shaped by millions of years of evolution. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to question it.

[Anonymous No.12794856]

>>12787145
I'm smarter than most scientists and I'll disagree with them all I want.

[Anonymous No.12794860]

>>12787145
>The foundations of society are built upon trust. All civil functions rely on trust. If you cannot trust others, there is no community and you must do everything yourself.
Imagine being this naive. Just look at modern society and tell me with a straight face that there is any sort of "community". We're all just a bunch of individuals competing with each other in a civilization. You probably barely even talk to your neighbors. People mostly just act out of self interest. In the case of a surgeon, the reason he won't fuck up your surgery is because he doesn't want to damage his reputation and he doesn't want you to sue him for medical malpractice. He doesn't actually care about you.

[Anonymous No.12794864]

>>12787269
>Nigger, if it does not work, the doctors won't wear them and take the shot before you could
doubt they give a shit about the actual stuff. we all are just following rules and what others are doing. it's easy and what is the benefit of starting a revolution.
people like you who don't quite understand this are probably the minority and not used to independent critical thinking. your post is just baffling, to not only anti mask/vax idiots/cults but the majority

[Anonymous No.12794867]

>>12794787
Cocaine is a safe medication and asbestos is a great insulator.

[Anonymous No.12794946]

>>12794864
Ah yes.
The overblown sense of superiority
Classic America

[Anonymous No.12795010]

Is Eren an anti masker?

[Anonymous No.12795173]

>>12795010
Pretty sure he can’t just die from an illness so yes he is he doesn’t care

[Anonymous No.12795609]

So did OP win?

[Anonymous No.12795635]

>>12795609
No. Eren lost

[Anonymous No.12795733]

>>12787145
>trust capitalism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF3d059QBkM

[Anonymous No.12797101]

>>12787311
>between me and my sense of intuition

ooh gran'ma, tell us again how it's gonna rain because your big toe's throbbin'

[Anonymous No.12797486]

>>12789884
No one can cure vampirism yet, anon

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>>12787145
Everyone disagreeing is retarded. Personally, few groups I trust more than doctors are elected government officials, lawyers, and car dealers. In other words, I simply don't know anything about government, law, and cars. Why would I question any of these? That seems like fascist right wing extremism to me.