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Anonymous Wed Mar 3 20:54:22 2021 No.12785805 [Reply] [Original]

Let's settle this /sci/, who's smarter, mathematicians or physicists?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 3 20:57:52 2021 No.12785819 >>12785805 >Newton invents Calculus Mathematicians BTFO since 17th century AD

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 3 21:02:54 2021 No.12785839 >>12785819 Except he didn't. Also calculus is baby math.

>>	El Arcón Wed Mar 3 21:03:48 2021 No.12785845 >>12785819 yes. physicists are smarter.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 3 21:07:59 2021 No.12785870 >>12785819 so I suppose the smartest people are people who hang counterfeiters

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 3 21:10:35 2021 No.12785885 >>12785805 who gives a fuck?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 3 21:14:45 2021 No.12785904 >>12785805 neither, anyone smart to boost the average intelligence of either of those groups would be smart enough to disown the group average by identifying with a smaller subgroup or as sui generis.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 3 21:16:02 2021 No.12785907 >>12785845 this

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 3 21:24:06 2021 No.12785942 >>12785805 You literally cannot compare Einstein and Grothendieck. The average physicsts may be SLIGHTLY smarter than the average mathematician, but it is two completely different mindsets and the best physicists/mathematicians are equally smart.

Anonymous Wed Mar 3 23:06:24 2021 No.12786296

mathematicians don't even understand their own theorems. That's why they name them all after each other. Contrast with physics:
>nth law of thermodynamics
>general relativity
>standard model of particle physics
>etc.
Whereas Mathfags have shit like
>Rolle's Theorem
>Golbach Conjecture
>Riemann Hypothesis
>Navier-Stokes equation
>Bessel function
>etc.
Dumb motherfuckers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 4 04:07:57 2021 No.12787174 What do mathematicians even do?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 4 04:30:41 2021 No.12787249 >>12787174 they compute formulas for the physicists

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 4 04:37:05 2021 No.12787270 >>12787174 prove theorems

Anonymous Thu Mar 4 04:37:09 2021 No.12787271

>>12785805
The average scientist in any field is a midwit that will never discover anything. Im hesitant to say they even have above average IQ. That being said i always found math easier than physics, but that doesnt mean physicists are smarter just because their field is subjectively 3% harder. An illiterate rice farmer might have 200 IQ and never have the need to put it to use.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 4 04:42:48 2021 No.12787283 >>12785805 physicists are up like 3 IQ points, but the trinity of physics, mathematics and philosophy have a huge lead on everything else. So let’s say practically all 3 are equal and laugh at economics.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 4 05:03:21 2021 No.12787346 >>12787283 fuck off philosophy

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 4 05:30:25 2021 No.12787432 >>12786296 it's kind of a dickhead move to name a law of the universe after yourself

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 4 05:33:08 2021 No.12787442 >>12787283 Philosophy is just cover stories for ideologies.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 4 07:41:54 2021 No.12787761 >>12785870 based Newton

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 4 07:42:56 2021 No.12787764 >>12787271 based retard

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 4 07:50:17 2021 No.12787783 >>12787271 200iq and illiterate don't fit into one sentence retard!

Anonymous Thu Mar 4 07:56:07 2021 No.12787791
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>>12787783
If a genius is born in a mudhot from rice farmer parents and nothing bad happens in his life to push him for a change he will just be a rice farmer. His intelligence will just sit inside his cranium.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 4 08:01:56 2021 No.12787804 >>12785819 LEIBFFZ WAS FIRST

Anonymous Thu Mar 4 08:37:38 2021 No.12787921
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>>12785819
>Newton invents Calculus
Calculus was invented by the German Leibniz who was a Mathematician and not a Physicist.

Newton stole Leibiniz's idea. Newton plagiarized and took the credit.

>>12785839

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 4 08:39:08 2021 No.12787926 >>12785805 >is a child more like a subset

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 4 08:55:42 2021 No.12787984 File: 458 KB, 2009x2048, Demon core.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12787926 Theoretical Physics is a subset of Math. But Experimental Physics (pic related) isn't ... unless you consider it just Applied Statistics.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 4 09:00:24 2021 No.12788001 Computer Scientists

Anonymous Thu Mar 4 09:01:00 2021 No.12788003

>>12787791
This is true but largely a problem of the past. We have the internet which disseminates knowledge to all and a platform to drop shit you come up with. Problem now is our smart people go into fucking finance or go live in a mud hut to be hermits. We need to find incentives to get them into useful shit like civilian research. We put way too much emphasis on military research too, so a lot of our smart people waste their whole lives or their young years where they are most productive on that.

Anonymous Thu Mar 4 09:31:58 2021 No.12788104

>>12785805
Mathematicians in my experience the ability to think deeper whilst Physicists are more "quick-witted". Physicists are better at what most non-educated people think higher math is (Diff EQs, calculus and such); the average person has absolutely no idea what higher math consists of but generally has a pop-sci understanding of physics. So to the average person a physicist would probably appear smarter.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 4 11:03:25 2021 No.12788453 >>12787432 Newton's laws are not really laws, more like definitions. They are more math than physics.

Anonymous Thu Mar 4 11:54:17 2021 No.12788634

>>12788104
>>Mathematicians in my experience the ability to think deeper
about what? Mathematicians have no critical thinking. Hey have no idea what orders of magnitudes are. Physicists are grounded. The only problem with those is that they go over the top like Max Tegmark and his peak rationalist MUH
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_universe_hypothesis

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 4 18:25:29 2021 No.12790237 >>12787174 Still worldbuilding string theory hoping somebody outside the math department takes it seriously some day.

Anonymous Thu Mar 4 18:37:23 2021 No.12790274
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>>12787174
Math major career route:

If a Midwit : Statistican Business Chad or Math Professor at a Mid Tier Uni.

If Genius: Math Professor at Top Tier Uni

If Brainlet: High School Teacher, Low Tier Community College Professor, Code Monkey or Unemployed.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 4 18:38:48 2021 No.12790279 >>12785819 Newton was a mathematics professor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucasian_Professor_of_Mathematics Funny how mathematicians like him are better at physics than actual physicists.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 4 18:39:49 2021 No.12790284 >>12788634 Mathematicians understand thoughts and rules more than any profession in the world. Physicists don't care about "what is the concept of information? What is the concept of generalization?" They just want the answer.

Anonymous Thu Mar 4 18:47:15 2021 No.12790316

>>12785805 Mathematicians obviously
>>12785819 Newton was (like Leibniz) a philosopher in the truest sense of the word, though if he were primarily anything, then it was a mathematician. retard.
>>12785839 Cringe pseud take
>>12785845 Your physics is retarded and your mathematics is worse, cope.
>>12787921 Leibniz, while undeniably a genius, was not the first to discover calculus; however, I will grant that his conception is more complete and that he used better notation.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 4 18:49:49 2021 No.12790332 >>12785805 >the converse is not true in general t. retard

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 4 19:53:50 2021 No.12790630 >>12790279 >Funny how mathematicians like him are better at physics than actual physicists. lol, definitely not true anymore

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 4 20:04:31 2021 No.12790665 >>12785805 Physics is not logic. Neither is math for that matter. Also, your conclusion is a complete non-sequitur. Why do you spend time shilling complete nonsense?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 4 20:08:01 2021 No.12790674 >>12790665 What is logic?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 4 20:53:43 2021 No.12790799 >>12790674 The study of rules of inference. Or more broadly, the analysis of arguments.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 4 21:00:57 2021 No.12790825 >>12790799 All logicians are mathematicians. Like this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 4 21:38:15 2021 No.12790961 >>12790825 I wouldn’t say that, no. You’re not really going to find logicians in the math department of any major university anyway. I wasn’t required to take logic to get my math degree.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 5 03:15:12 2021 No.12791894 >>12787442 i don’t care, statistics don’t lie

Anonymous Fri Mar 5 03:32:03 2021 No.12791933

>>12787791
How else would you know he's a genius if he didn't read. If he can't read he can't communicate ideas, he wouldn't even know the right terminology to explain ideas. If he was a genius, reading would actually come naturally. He would just need one book to start with and his natural curiosity would take over

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 5 03:32:43 2021 No.12791934 >>12785805 Your pic is completely wrong and retarded. >who's smarter, mathematicians or physicists? Whoever doesn't reply to this shit thread.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 5 03:45:41 2021 No.12791965 >>12785805 Math requires you to understand abstract things without understanding them intuitively. Physics is about our universe, so you can remember things intuitively. Abstract thinking is harder. Ergo: mathematicians are smarter then physicists.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 5 04:05:45 2021 No.12792001 >>12791965 >t. algebraic topologist

Anonymous Fri Mar 5 06:57:00 2021 No.12792339
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Physicists solve problems faster. and are better in doing Mental calculations on spot.

Mathematicians are slower, spend more time and lines to proof things with an often unnecessary and pedantic Rigour.

Physicist answers are more concise with fewer lines.
While mathematicians are too verbose and love to waste several pages to solve a problem that just need a few lines.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 5 08:47:56 2021 No.12792582 Given that physicists depend on math and mathematicians, I'm going to say mathematicians.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 5 08:56:08 2021 No.12792609 >>12792582 that's like saying traders are dependent on the fat IT nerd so the nerds are better than the traders. Mathematicians are intern monkeys working for their boss the physicists.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 5 09:12:03 2021 No.12792671 >>12792609 Physicists don't boss anything. They're glorified dumpster divers. They trail behind mathematicians, sifting through a mathematician's poop to find pieces of corn that fit some theory.

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