Genetic engineering of the human species

[Anonymous No.12767877]

Why does everyone freak out when I start talking about this? There are people who actually believe eliminating genetic diseases and modifying the genome to create healthier, more attractive, superior people is somehow morally wrong.

[Anonymous No.12767909]

>>12767877
>literally hitler eugenics

[Anonymous No.12767929]

>>12767909
Genmodding isn't eugenics.

[Anonymous No.12767966]

>>12767929
You are nazi

[Anonymous No.12767992]

>>12767966
Genetic modification is the opposite of eugenics.
A Eugenicist wouldn't allow someone to have children because they have "bad genes".
A genetic engineer would not only allow them to have children, but they'd knockout any bad genes and knockin good ones, making the person's child healthier.
Genetic engineers and eugenicists are opposite ideologies.

[Anonymous No.12768015]

>>12767877
ok lemme remove this "defective" oncogene OOPS now your marrow isn't producing any blood cells sucks to be you haha sorry lmao

[Anonymous No.12768034]

>>12767877
Because they don't believe that they will be on the beneficiary end of this advancement. That it will be used as a tool of oppression (to further solidify white dominance if you're a libfag, or a satanic bioweapon if you're a cuckservative).

[Anonymous No.12768046]

>>12768034
Yeah.

Democratizing gene editing is our best bet in my opinion. Let everyone modify whatever the hell they want. They carry the liability but get the freedom.

[Anonymous No.12768060]

>>12768034
>>12768046
I'm OP, to be honest I have no interest in allowing people to select their own modifications or to "democratize" genetic engineering. I want to control the process and engineer the species properly.
People are stupid and can't think properly. They shouldn't have control over how the species develops.

[Anonymous No.12768066]

>>12767877
you already participate in genetic engineering when you choose who to mate with

if you're actually mating that is

[Anonymous No.12768071]

>>12768066
No, thats sexual selection, which is exponentially less efficient than genetic engineering.
Genetic engineering > artificial selection (which is eugenics) > natural selection > sexual selection.

[Anonymous No.12768117]

>why does everyone freak out when i start talking about this?
Because people fear what they can't understand, yet they won't bother trying to understand either. Solution? Do it with monkeys first, once you engineer a monkey embrio to grow as "human" you can do whatever you please with it. It ain't human, even if his dna configuration is similar to human, so no international law for human rights apply to it.

[Anonymous No.12768133]

>>12768060
By controlling the process; what is engineered: Do you think that you will be able to control how people will act? Or will there still be free will (if it exists) such that the same world will exist but with 'superhumans'?

[Anonymous No.12768167]

>>12767992
not that guy, but it's not about that, it's about how there aren't even any "bad genes" to begin with

[Anonymous No.12768212]

>>12767929
yes it is, and it is good

[Anonymous No.12768216]

>>12768133
No, I mean I am sure people will choose traits that are no longer optimal.
The best example is large size in men. We need to make people as physically small as possible in order to better allocate resources and reduce our energy expenditure while not lowering our quality of life. But I know people wouldnt engineer their children to be small, because people are retarded. That's just one example.
>>12768167
Yes there are, anon.

[Anonymous No.12768603]

>>12768167

[Anonymous No.12769372]

>>12767877
>Why does everyone freak out when I start talking about this?
People always were afraid of change and people have this fixed idea of that nature has a plan. Most people seem to accept genetic engineering if its used to eliminate genetic diseases and a few sentences are often enough to convince people to support health enhancement, whose goal is to prevent diseases like alzheimer, cancer or other diseases. More complicated is the topic of enhanced intelligence and fitness. People don`t like the idea of people being made for a purpose but I show them that genetic engineering can be used to enhance ability, to enable potential and not to limit them to what their parents wish them to be. Nick has made a good essay about it:
https://www.nickbostrom.com/ethics/genetic.html

[Anonymous No.12769382]

>>12768015
That suggests that genetic engineering can`t work. But it is working and we already have several genetically modified humans alive today. The difference is that only a few have enhancements (CCR5) while most were modified to treat a disease. The methods are the same.

[Anonymous No.12769401]

>>12768216

Manlet detected

[Anonymous No.12769407]

>>12768034
>>12768046
>>12768060
I support a universal health care system and genetic regulation agency to distribute the benefits and to enable many people, ensure its safety and prevent the worst abuses. The costs for gene editing are actually quite low. Around 10.000$ at worst, thus everyone could benefit from it.

[Anonymous No.12769420]

>>12769401
There will only be small men in the future.

[Anonymous No.12769592]

[Anonymous No.12769600]

>>12768167
>what is CFTR

[Anonymous No.12770490]

>>12767929
It is very nice that you think it's not eugenics, now explain it to idiots who make laws

[Anonymous No.12770656]

>>12770490
In time.

[Anonymous No.12771798]

[Anonymous No.12771817]

>>12767877
Humans fear anything better than themselves because of reasons I'm too tired to go into right now.
but blah blah blah
that's why parents treat their children like shit. that's why people treat other people like shit.
that's why every generation gets worse.
that's why we're exposed to toxins and chemical entirely known and authorized without any care
>>12767929
dude looks up the etymology of eugenics.
if it's not eugenics then it's pointless, and I don't mean pointless like "oh no it's pointless" I mean like pressing a button with no intention of anything to come in particular.

[Anonymous No.12771829]

Why wouldn't everybody make their baby white? Why wouldn't at some point everybody just buy deluxe Dna that is not even ours anymore but just made in some chinese lab?

[Anonymous No.12771836]

They are going to modify you to be more subservient, less violent, and more efficient at whatever the system wants to use your body for.

It's like with smartphones. The primary purpose isn't to let you communicate, it's to collect behavioral data, and increase sales opportunities.

[Anonymous No.12771965]

Pharmacogenomics has always interested me. Is there any way to get into it? I am getting a BS in Biochemistry soon

[Anonymous No.12771976]

>>12771965
Learn computer science. Best thing a biologist can do tbqh. Biomolecule engineering is the future.

[Anonymous No.12772056]

>>12771965
this field will boom in the future... as a chemist and pythonfag I'm interested too... but I'm scared that it will be a data monkey job

[Anonymous No.12772580]

>>12767929
>>12767909
Depends on your definition. It clearly has nothing to do with the racial eugenics of the 19/20th century or sterilization/murder and the degree between enhancement and medical is a gradual one, are modifications that lessen the changes to develop alzheimer/cancer medical or enhancement?

[Anonymous No.12773149]

>>12768603
Is this real?

[Anonymous No.12773169]

>>12771817
>Humans fear anything better than themselves because of reasons I'm too tired to go into right now.
>but blah blah blah
>that's why parents treat their children like shit. that's why people treat other people like shit.
>that's why every generation gets worse.
>that's why we're exposed to toxins and chemical entirely known and authorized without any care

I think this is the first post ITT that has an understanding of the human condition.

[Anonymous No.12774536]

>>12771976
How would I get a career in it though? I was thinking of biomedical engineering but it turns out that is a shit degree

[Anonymous No.12776916]

>>12767877
>Why does everyone freak out when I start talking about this
Not everybody.