The integrity of science is in jeopardy

[Anonymous No.12754052]

This is the policy for educating the next generation of "scientists". How or why should anyone listen and believe what science has to say when even data has to pass a political litmus test to be acceptable?

[Anonymous No.12754066]

>>12754052
> 100% of humans are born out of women.
BIGGOTRY!

[Anonymous No.12754088]

>>12754052
science is 99.999999% stuff you have never heard of and no one cares about. show me someone politicizing x ray crystallography or physical oceanography, i will wait

[Anonymous No.12754222]

>>12754088
>science is 99.999999% stuff you have never heard of and no one cares about

False, sociology, psychology, biology, anthropology, etc has been politicized and they make up a lot more than the 0.000001% that you claim.

Furthermore, they wouldn't stop with social science. Any branch of science that make scientific findings not to their liking will be on their hit list.

https://www.encyclopedia.com/science/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/disastrous-effects-lysenkoism-soviet-agriculture

[Anonymous No.12754238]

>>12754088
Even completely out of real world mathematics is politicized, especially if you aim to get a position, human relations and subculture play a vital role here.
>politicizing x ray crystallography or physical oceanography
These require expensive equipment and grants. How do you expect them to avoid being politicized?

[Anonymous No.12754266]

>>12754066
>late stage capitalism
literally just Keynesianism and crony-capitalist leftism.
The internet was the greatest invention of capitalism and it will probably save capitalism through crypto too, seethe commie.

[Anonymous No.12754285]

>>12754266
>The internet was the greatest invention of capitalism
didn't the internet grow out of university and military research groups with the current web layer developed by a guy at CERN?

[Anonymous No.12754289]

Its literally saying “if your data concludes that outcome differences are the result of immutable characteristics, your data is probably not looking at more substantial environmental factors”. I don’t necessarily agree with this, but it’s not particularly controversial. Stop ragebaiting

[Anonymous No.12754297]

>>12754238
>uhh look by discovering the crystal structure of this salt we will empower bipoc
just admit you are wrong and that reality doesn't fit your twisted view of the world.
many science fields are severely underfunded including big ones like nuclear. others just promise profit incentive, risk analysis or are just a part of the "environment&science" package, which is basically many states dedicate a teeny tiny part of their budget to science in general. xray crystallography is important for many many other SCIENCE fields and ocean related stuff fall under the environment package.
even if faculty sweet talk MPs for funds, the outcome of these scientific fields is not even remotely political

[Anonymous No.12754298]

>>12754266
Internet was literally just copper and electricity but with a protocol that makes the network resistant to disruption.

[Anonymous No.12754316]

>>12754052
Moreover, I can't really say that this isn't useful. If your reaction to say, typical IQ scores of black americans is "Nigger dumb", then you shouldn't be a researcher. There's way more complicated economic, sociological, and cultural factors that have a way better chance of explaining the difference than, again, "Nigger dumb". This isn't a "political litmus test" you brainlet. It's a very basic safeguard to push away shitty research. What do you have to say about jewish IQ scores? Would "Jewish people are intellectually superior" be the objective truth but this "political litmus test" is keeping it from coming to light? Or could Jewish IQ scores be explained, again, by complicated economic, sociological, and cultural factors?

[Anonymous No.12754868]

>>12754285
>didn't the internet grow out of university and military research groups with the current web layer developed by a guy at CERN?

And where do you think the government gets their money. There is no Obama stash.

https://youtu.be/_Ojd13kZlCA

It's all paid by taxes collected by private individuals and businesses. It's time people understand this and stop acting like the government is had it's own endless supply of wealth. It comes from the private sector.

[Anonymous No.12755120]

>>12754868
>It's all paid by taxes collected by private individuals and businesses

it's collected by the state checkmate atheist

[Anonymous No.12755151]

>>12754316
>There's way more complicated economic, sociological, and cultural factors that have a way better chance of explaining the difference than, again, "Nigger dumb"

No one said anything about blacks let alone anything about black intelligence you retarded cunt. More over, if you really believe you were correct, you would be able to back up any claim you made with evidence rather than insisting everyone come to the same conclusion and then cherrypick the data to pick that preconceived conclusion like a fucking creationist.

[Anonymous No.12755281]

>>12754316

>There's way more complicated economic, sociological, and cultural factors that have a way better chance of explaining the difference than, again, "Nigger dumb".

Typical leftist midwit. You arbitrarily decided that environment especially culture and economics will best determine the difference in outcomes and not biology. The reality is that group differences are a result of biology AND these things. "Different outcomes therefore nigger dumb" is retarded, and so are you.

And you didn't even address the main point, which is the image's assertion that we MUST attribute group differences to a "broken system" (in other words, you must blame whitey, blame western civilization, capitalism etc.) which is leftist ideological propaganda, nothing more.

[Anonymous No.12755296]

>>12754052
>The integrity of science is in jeopardy
The integrity of science was in jeopardy decades ago. Now it's pretty much a joke in everything from pop-sci to failure of replication.

[Anonymous No.12755299]

>>12754289

Your charitable take on the image completely strips its intended meaning. It's not merely talking about environmental factors explaining differences in group outcomes, it's saying you MUST come to the conclusion that a SPECIFIC environmental factor (a "broken system") is the cause or else you are a bigot. Stop defending leftist retardism.

[Anonymous No.12755306]

>>12755281
>Typical leftist midwit.

[Anonymous No.12755329]

>>12754289
No, look again, its literally saying "If you conclude that outcomes differences by demographic subgroup are a result of anything other than a broken system, that is , by definition, bigotry.*
*racism, classism, sexism, etc."

[Anonymous No.12755351]

>>12754088
Science is fundamentally 1+1=2
These people believe 1+1=3

They will come even for you eventually and ask you what 1+1 is
And they will not take 2 for answer

[Anonymous No.12755429]

>>12755351
>YOU VILL SAY THAT 2+2=5

[Anonymous No.12755504]

>>12755281
>bludegeon someone with a hammer on their skull
>They die
>Do it softer
>They don't die, but get brain damage
>Do it softer
>They get a concussion

Why is it so hard for polyps to believe that the differences are environmental?

[Anonymous No.12755519]

>>12754316
>There's way more complicated economic, sociological, and cultural factors that have a way better chance of explaining the difference
Ok, who says they have to be explanatory? We know criminality, intelligence, autism, and so forth is all genetic, why can't said economic, sociological and cultural factors be a genetic consequence, rather than a cause?

[Anonymous No.12755526]

>>12754088
>Show me someone politicizing x ray crystallography
There

[Anonymous No.12755535]

>>12755504
>>bludegeon someone with a hammer on their skull
>>They die
That means skulls are environmental!

[Anonymous No.12755551]

>>12755535
what did he mean by this

Are you now saying that intelligence is immaterial now?

[Anonymous No.12755570]

>>12755551
>what did he mean by this
That you're dumb.

[Anonymous No.12755578]

>>12754266
>literally just Keynesianism
You'll tell that to people dying en masse after the economic crisis hits at cruising speed.

[Anonymous No.12755620]

>>12754066
NOOOOOOOOO SOME WOMEN DON'T HAVE UTERI YOU BIGOT!

[Anonymous No.12755626]

>>12754266
The internet was an invention by the military. Commie states don't have one? Retard.
The web was an invention for academia. Commie states don't have that? Brainlet.

[Anonymous No.12755648]

>>12754266
Stupid Lolbertarian. Capitalism is not what you think it is, trade existed LOOOOOOONG before muh capitalism. Capitalism can be defined as a Positive Feedback Loop. And because of people like you, Zuckerberg and Bezos will create a new feudal class of overlords to rule over us, the serfs. Enjoy getting butt fucked by Big Business

[Anonymous No.12755651]

>>12754066
>late stage capitalism
Just plain capitalism. America got a shot in the arm from WWII and military industrial complex. What were seeing today isn't the result of cronyism but the natural result of globalism.

[Anonymous No.12755658]

>>12755281
It's fruitless. Such midwits will also think a blank slate of a chimp could be raised to human-approaching intelligence, that is the power of their magical thinking.

[Anonymous No.12755673]

>>12754052

[Anonymous No.12755675]

>>12754052
>1970s: Science catches fire, burns down to ashes
>2021: Science is in jeopardy!!!!1

Only a 51 year latency to notice. good job.
It's however too late
Politics was too complex. so it was replaced with narrative
Reality was too complex. so it was replaced with narrative
Science was too complex. so it was replaced with narrative

[Anonymous No.12755678]

>>12755526
Franklin contributed

[Anonymous No.12755688]

>>12754266
Capitalism is a materialistic ideology.
It is very similar to communism, as everything becomes about getting money either by stealing directly what he owns or scamming him via usury and high interests loans.

[Anonymous No.12755707]

>>12755688
Capitalism and communism isn't comparable.
Capitalism is a result of multi-generational wealth in a trading society that have skilled labor.
Communism is a suggested theoretical system for hijacking already developed capitalist systems.
They are not polar opposites, they are very different things.

[Anonymous No.12755739]

>>12755620
Even with the troll taken into consideration, your claim is the negation of the converse implication. So it's logically unrelated to the original claim.

[Anonymous No.12755744]

>>12754052

The west is finished. Hopefully the CCP rounds up all woke leftist in minecraft.

[Anonymous No.12755756]

>>12755739
I knew I'd get this pedantic comment because we have been thoroughly infested by Reddit.

I just find male trannies funnier than the converse.

[Anonymous No.12755761]

>>12755739

Unironically Kys r edditor

[Anonymous No.12755775]

>>12755756
>male trannies
You mean faggots?

[Anonymous No.12756242]

>>12755648
>Lolbertarian
Leftist brainlet confirmed. No need to anyone time in this post.

[Anonymous No.12756262]

>>12755651
The US hasn't been a laissez faire capitalist system since the time of FDR when the Keynesians blamed the Great Depression on capitalism and not the true cause - the Federal Reserve.

[Anonymous No.12756394]

>>12755707
They are exactly the same thing.
Capitalism means making money via money manipulation.
Communism means making money via stealing property.

[Anonymous No.12756419]

>>12754868
Thats like saying niggers invented NASA because some of them pay taxes
You are retarded

[Anonymous No.12756488]

>>12756419
Another cocksucking statist whore telling us how wonderful the government is for taking our money and every once in a while doing something useful with it that we could have done ourselves and without all of the authoritarian faggotry that comes with big government.

[Anonymous No.12756520]

>>12756419
>niggers invented
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington_Carver

Helped saved the Southern economy after cotton crops were devastated by a combination of soil depletion and a boll weevil infestation. So yeah, some blacks are inventors, stormfag.

[Anonymous No.12756909]

>>12755678
Franklin was a glorified photographer that didn't even know what she was looking at

[Anonymous No.12756916]

>>12756520
I never said niggers invented nothing retard

[Anonymous No.12756927]

>statist
You must be 18 years or older to use this site

[Anonymous No.12756944]

>>12756488
go breathe lead fumes lolbert. Not doing so is statist since da guberment banned putting lead in gasoline

[Anonymous No.12757004]

>>12756262
Bretton-Woods era ended in the 1970s.
It yielded to Neoliberalism which continues to this day in conjunction with late-stage capitalism.

[Anonymous No.12757014]

>>12754266
>>12756394
>via stealing property

Should workers receive the full fruit of their labor? Impossible under textbook capitalism.

[Anonymous No.12757026]

>>12757014
Forgot image.

[Anonymous No.12757047]

>>12757026
>>12757014
Lolberts are too retarded to recognize their own hypocrisy.

[Anonymous No.12757104]

>>12755688
That's not what materialism means.

[Anonymous No.12757142]

>>12754222
>sociology, psychology, biology, anthropology
Only biology is a real science there

[Anonymous No.12757194]

>>12757014
>>12757026
>believing "surplus" "value" is a thing
Disdain.jpg

[Anonymous No.12757208]

>>12754868
You cannot possibly be the same anon who posted this >>12754266
Otherwise, you're a retard.

[Anonymous No.12757574]

>>12754066
>collapse of late stage capitalism
Bullshit this is caused by politics bending science to suit it's agenda

[Anonymous No.12757606]

>>12756909
A lot of people don't know the difference between a lab tech and a principal investigator.

[Anonymous No.12757649]

>>12757014
>>12757026
>>12757047
The labour theory of value is absolute rubbish.
If (You) don't know that by now, then (You)'re ngmi.

[Anonymous No.12758435]

>>12754088
>show me someone politicizing x ray crystallography
really faggot? do you know anything about the history of x-ray crystallography? fucking ingrate

[Anonymous No.12758436]

>>12754222
one could argue that those aren’t even science

[Anonymous No.12758616]

Define "broken system."

I don't care about skin color, but nigger culture and everyone else's widespread apathy or acceptance of it is a poison and should be considered part of this "system."

[Anonymous No.12758961]

>>12756944
>lolbert
Could you stop your retard mumbling and post something that's at least on a second grade level. I know I'm asking a lot from you but try to be coherent. Once this thread is closed, you can then go back to posting Occupy Democrat pics on Facebook.

[Anonymous No.12759022]

>>12754052
What the fuck do they mean by broken system? How do we know the system in Nigeria isnt broken despite it being 100% controlled by blacks meaning the idea that whites have anything to do with black incompetence is nonsense backed by nothing?

[Anonymous No.12759023]

>>12757026
>"HURR DERP OUR GOD GUBERMENT ASKS 4 SO LITTLE BUT EVIL BIG BUSNESS DEMANDS SO MUCH"

In the so-called cesspool of laissez faire capitalism known as the United States, 28% of a person's income goes to pay for all taxes: federal and state income tax, payroll tax, sales tax, the cost of taxes on businesses that is passed on to consumers, etc.

https://taxfoundation.org/publications/tax-freedom-day/#:~:text=What%20Taxes%20Do%20We%20Pay,income%20taxes%20(42%20days).

Meanwhile, most businesses in the service industry make a net profit of less than 10%.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/093015/whats-good-profit-margin-new-business.asp

[Anonymous No.12759029]

>>12755504
>brain damage
>le environment
So you admit its the neurostructure that determines intelligence, and your neurostructure is created by your genes so your genes have domination of your overall intelligence.

[Anonymous No.12759044]

>>12754052
>Integrity of science is in jeopardy
>2019
Bruh. Science is already dead. Cope.

[Anonymous No.12759734]

>>12757026
Stupid fucking commies. If this is your income, then threaten to quit and demand a raise, and the "evil capitalist" will give it to you out of his own self interest.

If he doesn't, you're probably not worth as much as you think you are.

[Anonymous No.12759857]

>>12754052
Sounds based.

[Anonymous No.12759860]

>>12754222
You're not Galileo. You're not a brave dissident standing up to totalitarianism or communism.

[Anonymous No.12759875]

>>12755519
>is all genetic
Absolutely false. Intelligence is 50-80%. Criminality isn't clear, despite what some people on the internet like to say.

[Anonymous No.12760111]

>>12755526
>>12758435
conflict != politics

[Anonymous No.12760333]

>>12754088
>um akshually science is only politicised when it matters to peoples' lives, so this is fine

[Anonymous No.12760504]

>>12755504
>hit coconut with hammer
>it cracks
>do it softer
>it splinters
>do it softer
>coconut jumps around

Why is it so hard for krill to believe that coconut thickness is environmental?

[Anonymous No.12760611]

>>12760333
not much politics around reverse osmosis filtration, electrical fields, agriculture, computer science, organic chemistry, kinematics, nuclear chemistry, Nanomaterials, biotechnology, botany, marine biology, etc either, these are all important for people's lives even vital. it's almost as if science deals with actual problems instead of the current liberal vs conservative paradigm

[Anonymous No.12760621]

>>12760611
Yeah? Strange, I didn't see any of those topics on the front page here
https://www.sciencedaily.com/
or here
https://sciencetoday.eu/
or here
https://www.iflscience.com/
If you want to claim none of these things are science, then congratulations! You agree with what we're telling you: science is politicized.

[Anonymous No.12760648]

>>12760621
wow all popsci publications (except science daily) who's only goal is to increase clicks.
do you notice how many of these are political? if you remove the climate change ones there is very little left

[Anonymous No.12760724]

>>12754088
lol look up feminist glaciology. it's a thing

[Anonymous No.12760846]

>>12754052
This isn't 100% wrong
You shouldn't assume that the results can't be the cause of a "broken system", but you should look for other explanations too

[Anonymous No.12763033]

>>12759860
You're not masculine and you never lost your virginity. But you will always have a place in your parents' basement.

[Anonymous No.12763048]

>>12759860
You're not masculine and you'll never lose your virginity. But you will always have a place in your parents' basement.

[Anonymous No.12763085]

>>12760724
>feminist glaciology
>one article ever written about it, most people who talk about it just talk about how weird it is
that doesn't make it "a thing" anon

[Anonymous No.12763101]

>>12760621
Those do not, in fact, constitute scientific literature you absolute infant.

[Anonymous No.12763552]

>>12757026
LVT is fucking retarded.
I fundamentally agree that workers should be paid more, which desu is a right-wing stance in most western nations as welfare systems are funded by placing high taxes on the workers. But LTV by removing supply and demand mechanics from labor power punishes skilled workers. As for it to maintain sensible wage differences it relies on an assumption that profits linearly increase with the skill of the worker pool, which is a brainlet assumption. There are also positions with high "degree centrality" such as dock workers where you could claim an enormous added value by LVT. Marx ignored all of this and continued on his eternal brainlet rigmarole.

[Anonymous No.12763668]

>>12754289
Eh well no problems then. Lets continue.

[Anonymous No.12764607]

>>12760611
>not much politics around nuclear chemistry
Everything nuclear is deeply politicized

[Anonymous No.12765073]

>>12763085
It has been cited 91 times. This is a big problem is "gender studies."

I suggest you look into the work james lindsay and co did on the hoax papers.

[Anonymous No.12765123]

>>12754052
even at best of times "peer reviewed" is seen somewhat as an inside joke. scientific process is safe, because everyone involved is aware of the amount of bullshit floating.

i've seen that screenshot posted dozen of times, it's blackpill demoralization and has little to do with the actual state of things.

[Anonymous No.12765751]

>>12763048
You will never have an argument.

[Anonymous No.12765832]

well it's not wrong

[Anonymous No.12767066]

>>12754066
It's been late stage capitalism for the last 50 years, you know since the term was coined. We should actually be in post late stage capitalism by now.

[Anonymous No.12767265]

Lel
>/sci/ claims to be smarter than boards
>majority of the board still thinks communism will work
I guess it's due to people on this board still sucking what ever dick their college tells them too

[Anonymous No.12767280]

>>12767265
communism does work, look at China and Vietnam
their GDPs keep growing at record rates

[Anonymous No.12767288]

>>12767280
China and Vietnam have a capitalist economic system since the 1980s, retard. You never heard of Deng Xiaoping?

China is one of the most capitalistic countries in the world, so much so that it doesn't have free healthcare and bans unions. China is "winning" because it's more capitalistic than the West since it ignores things like unions and human rights.

[Anonymous No.12767393]

>>12754066
>FUNNY CAT VIDEOS!

[Anonymous No.12767396]

>>12755688
What exactly is the ideology of capitalism? It always seemed to be to be the absense of any economic ideology, just the sum total of people making individual choices of their own free will

[Anonymous No.12767453]

>>12754289
kek you cant even read 1 slide. fucking lel

[Anonymous No.12767463]

>>12765073
why would i chose to read garbage

[Anonymous No.12767472]

>>12767463
charitably assuming you're calling the fake papers "garbage" and not the writing around the fake papers, you don't need to read the fake papers themselves, although they are funny if you've got nothing better to do

[Anonymous No.12767820]

>>12767396
For me, toi have To go jack To etymology. Capitalism is the ideology of capital. Capital a property that increase over time. It requires private property. Private property is at the root of capitalism. So you have private property over land, over personal items, over resources, today it goes also for private property of ideas, patents, music. Everything falls under private property and is to be made into capital that gives you money for nothing. Not just in a natural way but encouraged and supported by society and the state.

[Anonymous No.12768493]

>>12767820
But it's never been easier in history to get ideas, music, mental private property for free than it is now