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[Anonymous No.12752702]

Space Madness Edition
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[Anonymous No.12752714]

First for rogs

[Anonymous No.12752718]

>>12752714
Post rogs

[Anonymous No.12752719]

[Anonymous No.12752721]

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe

[Anonymous No.12752723]

Elon musk, fraud or fiction?

[Anonymous No.12752724]

>>12752719
NOOO YOU CANT JUST SWITCH OUT AN ENGINE THAT QUICK THINK OF THE CONTRACTORS

[Anonymous No.12752725]

What would be the best animal to bring into space aside from ourselves?
I'd say rabbits.

[Anonymous No.12752728]

>>12752724
Boeing never has to switch out engines. thats the beauty of being so reliable

[Anonymous No.12752729]

>>12752725
Foxes ;)

[Anonymous No.12752732]

>>12752702
Can someone photoshop this so the chud is a SpaceX welder and the bunkercuck is a NASA intern?

[Anonymous No.12752733]

>>12752723
"Give my regards to your puppet master"

[Anonymous No.12752734]

>>12752723
>"Elon Musk? In truth, an elaborate fabrication made from holograms and balsa wood"

[Anonymous No.12752735]

>>12752728
During the shuttle program they had to swap out a lot also an SSME failed in flight once and the shuttle (Challenger) aborted to a lower orbit

[Anonymous No.12752736]

>>12752725
Guinea pigs are very efficient protein.

[Anonymous No.12752737]

>>12752728
sls green run?

[Anonymous No.12752743]

>>12752737
Um sweetie the green run is just a test they’re allowed to make mistakes :^)

[Anonymous No.12752745]

>>12752721
Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.

[Anonymous No.12752748]

>>12752743
there are starving children in africa and those women have had more than their fair share?...we could have spent that money on a moon base but they spent in on cellular insulation. cupcakes. dispicable

[Anonymous No.12752757]

>>12752743
Isnt a raised fist a symbol of black supremacy? i thought it was black panther shit, the terrorist group i mean

[Anonymous No.12752758]

>>12752721
>All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.

[Anonymous No.12752761]

>>12752745
I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate.

[Anonymous No.12752782]

>>12752761
All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.

[Anonymous No.12752783]

>A sounding rocket [...] used to carry instruments from 48 to 145 km (30 to 90 miles) above the surface of the Earth.
By this definition, is New Sheppherd a sounding rocket?

[Anonymous No.12752785]

>>12752718

[Anonymous No.12752790]

>>12752728
They still do, but they do it midflight to save time.

[Anonymous No.12752791]

Is it going to be gud?

[Anonymous No.12752795]

>>12752782
Time to die.

[Anonymous No.12752803]

>>12752783
Literally all it does yeah. Cant believe they never put a small upper stage on it.

>>12752791
Vulcan is a cool rocket but ULA cucked and ended up cancelling ACES and SMART.

[Anonymous No.12752814]

>>12752795
One of these days I hope we can plug in some wires and replace Oppy’s batteries and get her online again

[Anonymous No.12752815]

[Anonymous No.12752819]

>>12752791
Yes

[Anonymous No.12752821]

>>12752803
>ended up cancelling ACES and SMART.
Why?

[Anonymous No.12752822]

>>12752815
Anyone who thinks Starship won’t work is retarded. Unstoppable force and immovable object teamed up to build it.

[Anonymous No.12752824]

SNEleven
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1364826301027115008?s=19

[Anonymous No.12752827]

for the farmer anon from the last thread: i've finished typesetting your text, but images will take a bit longer

[Anonymous No.12752829]

Can we pretty much assume that hop tomorrow or Friday given that Elon's in Boca Chica?

[Anonymous No.12752830]

>>12752814
Turn it into a tour guide at a Martian museum

[Anonymous No.12752831]

>>12752819
Wtf is the point of it

[Anonymous No.12752834]

>>12752827
oops forgot image

[Anonymous No.12752835]

>>12752814
goofy shit

[Anonymous No.12752844]

So how do nuclear powered lasers work, anyway? Every time I try to look them up, all I get are history lessons.

[Anonymous No.12752845]

>>12752824
Yeah? Well Artemis 2’s core is uh doing stuff

[Anonymous No.12752846]

will they skip SN16-19? when will we see our first chomper? has hardware for the first orbital starship alteady been built?

[Anonymous No.12752855]

>>12752844
You mean like Casaba Howitzers or regular lasers that are incidentally powered by a nuclear reactor?

[Anonymous No.12752859]

>>12752855
The first.

[Anonymous No.12752869]

>>12752859
Hugely insanely bright nuclear explosion pushes enough energy through a media which lases for just a fraction of a second and produces an insanely powerful laser pulse.

[Anonymous No.12752870]

What stops Starship from buckling and snapping in two during reentry? is it the pressurization?

[Anonymous No.12752874]

>>12752869
What medium?

[Anonymous No.12752901]

Biden seems like such a nice man. I hope he supports space like me

[Anonymous No.12752937]

>>12752831
It chases dreams

[Anonymous No.12752945]

>>12752937
Useless

[Anonymous No.12752957]

>>12752869
>>12752874
I don't think Casaba howitzers are technically lasers, they're more like shaped charges that produce a tight high energy particle beam.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casaba-Howitzer

[Anonymous No.12752971]

>>12752945
Whatever

[Anonymous No.12752973]

>>12752957
I found a more technical article, can speak to it's accuracy: https://toughsf.blogspot.com/2016/06/the-nuclear-spear-casaba-howitzer.html#:~:text=The%20Casaba%20Howitzer%20is%20one%20configuration%20for%20a,can%20be%20applied%20to%20both%20propulsion%20and%20warfare.

[Anonymous No.12752978]

>>12752973
fucked up link https://toughsf.blogspot.com/2016/06/the-nuclear-spear-casaba-howitzer.html

[Anonymous No.12752984]

>ok folks today we have dave from the marketing department brainstorming with us engineers as to how to ge the public more excited with space travel. Ok dave what do you got.
Put a high res camera on the next rover
>ok dave discussing mission spec with you isnt what we had in mind, but well have it into consideration, besides that, what others ideas you have?
More cameras in the rover, seriously, one isnte enough, high res cams all over.
>you see dave the bandwith isnt enough to.
I dont care, you make it work, you put cameras on the rover on top below to the side, inside, you put cameras on the fucking skycrane, and on the landing vehicle and you photograph it from another craft, you put cameras on the motherfucking cables if you have to
>well dave i dont think thats really necesary since this mission will be performing something very exciting were going to search for life
ok you retard, maybe youre not understanding me, unless you can get me A PICTURE of ET fucking phoning home no one will give a shit about it, and by the way, this isnt a discussion, im here to tell what youre gonna do, because its the only way any normie will care about your nerdy shit.
*exits and slams doors*
*opens doors again*
Oh, and by the way, tell the parachute engineers they have to include a secret message on it.
(heard in the distance):oh for gods sak...
*door slams again*

[Anonymous No.12753005]

>>12752719
>Tiles
Wasn't this a big problem with the shuttle?

[Anonymous No.12753006]

>>12752973
>>12752978
Neat, thanks anon. Project Rho also has a pretty long discussion on them too.

[Anonymous No.12753017]

>>12753005
Shuttle tiles were thick, fragile, glued on to felt that was on the shuttle's aluminum frame, and every single one was unique. On top of that there was the fucking external tank right next to them, the foam of which ended up killing a shuttle.
Starship's tiles are thinner, much stronger, bolted onto the steel hull over a thin thermal blanket, and, outside of the flaperon interfaces and the cone curve, are identical, allowing for easy mass-manufacturing. Oh yeah, no external tank means no foam strikes potentially causing issues.

The shuttle heat shield was about as autistically min-maxed as they could get it at the time, and in many ways it suffered because of that.

[Anonymous No.12753018]

>>12752971
Dream Chaser a cute!

[Anonymous No.12753042]

>>12753018
if she had vtol capabilities she would be a sexy
now, are we going to be using pure graphene for future, personal spacecraft?

[Anonymous No.12753113]

>>12752937
>why do they call it the dreamchaser?

[Anonymous No.12753117]

>>12752743
>not saying sweaty

[Anonymous No.12753275]

>>12752757
no, it's a socialist thing
Americans made it a race thing because of course they did

[Anonymous No.12753359]

If our space stations don't look like this in ~30 years, we have failed

[Anonymous No.12753364]

>>12753359
This looks like it was supposed to be built 50 years ago, I think we've failed already

[Anonymous No.12753367]

>>12752725
Bacteria.

[Anonymous No.12753368]

UK Government - COVID-19 support plan: space sector recovery
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-support-plan-space-sector-recovery

Is this going to mean anything new for space or just more of the same?

[Anonymous No.12753404]

>>12753368
Wow they really outlawed space travel

[Anonymous No.12753419]

Titan boat/submarine when

[Anonymous No.12753426]

>>12753419
makes me seethe that another gay Mars probe was chosen over this

[Anonymous No.12753452]

>>12753113
Gee, I dunno

[Anonymous No.12753455]

>>12753419
I imagine a lot of gay sex going on in that ship, lots and lots and lots of penises in anuses

[Anonymous No.12753460]

>>12753368
not reading all that governmentese shit
>UK
>space

[Anonymous No.12753462]

>>12753368
They'd make vastly more money for the UK by simply opening the fucking pubs back up desu and accepting the meme flu is just that

[Anonymous No.12753465]

>>12753462
British are seemingly comfortable with their dystopian big brother government

[Anonymous No.12753467]

>>12753455
Its a few meters long

[Anonymous No.12753478]

>>12752743
I love that burgers are so upset with ESA's recent announcement, but they don't realise that NASA did that 40 fucking years ago. There was a specific campaign to recruit black and minority astronauts in the Shuttle era.
But NASA has already reached much lower depths. Politicians muscled their way onto the Shuttle using their political clout. NASA flew a Saudi prince. They also flew John Glenn when we was 77, seventy-fucking-seven. And that was after Challenger, he managed it because he was a senator. Most of the world would view this as downright corruption, but it's much easier to whine about muh diversity.

[Anonymous No.12753480]

>>12753005
it's better when they are on a full steel structure

[Anonymous No.12753484]

>>12752732
kys

[Anonymous No.12753485]

>>12753478
Its not corruption, the US has the most fair political system. There are just some hidden variables you are not seeing

[Anonymous No.12753487]

>>12753005
>>12753017
The shuttle had problems with tiles because it was side-mounted. That means debris could fall off the ET or boosters and strike the tiles. DC would be mounted on the top of a rocket, so there's nothing that can hit it. It's also a long way from the engines, unlike the Shuttle which had problems in early flights.

[Anonymous No.12753488]

>>12753478
What’s wrong with flying an old astronaut lmao

[Anonymous No.12753489]

>>12752834
whadsthat?
based
me wants to read too

[Anonymous No.12753492]

>>12753042
>are we going to be using pure graphene for future, personal spacecraft?
manufacturing it is still quite hellish

[Anonymous No.12753496]

>>12753478
Glenn going back was based as fuck, there was that other senator though, who literally swapped place with one of the Challenger crew

[Anonymous No.12753500]

>Isaacmann
>St Jude
Real fucking subtle

[Anonymous No.12753513]

[spoiler]>>12753485
>Its not corruption, the US has the most fair political system.
Lol no. The US duopoly is not fair by any stretch of the imagination. Far from the fairest. The US just uses first past the post like many other flawed democracies, there are many better systems.
And even if the system was fair it wouldn't change the fact that flying politicians is corruption. A government agency handing out 100 million dollar opportunities to politicians is a hell of a kickback.

>>12753488
He was too old to be recruited as an astronaut, so obviously NASA through it was not sensible. The only reason he got past that was because of his political clout.

[Anonymous No.12753520]

>>12753455
>I imagine a lot of gay sex
I bet you do, homo

[Anonymous No.12753525]

>>12753488
For the time being the per day cost of having an astronaut in space is pretty expensive so sending one up that isn't at their most physically capable is a waste of money. Though I think NASA justified sending Glenn up as an experiment to see what happens to old people in space

[Anonymous No.12753526]

>>12753496
It was actually two of them. Greg Jarvis got bumped first by senator Jake Garn and then by rep Bill Nelson, then he ended up on Challenger.
Sending Glenn was even more reckless because it was after Challenger and he was he was far too old.

[Anonymous No.12753531]

>>12753526
>Jarvis was originally scheduled to make his shuttle flight in April 1985, but his spot on that flight was replaced by U.S. senator Jake Garn. His flight was rescheduled for early January 1986, but he was again replaced – this time by U.S. representative Bill Nelson.[1][2]
Damn. He got the short end of the stick. Along with the rest on Challenger that is.

[Anonymous No.12753534]

>>12753525
Who cares dude he was the first American to orbit. Let the old coot do a few more rotations

[Anonymous No.12753544]

>>12753488
>>12753496
>"Glenn Unable to Perform Experiment Planned for Space Flight"

> Mr. Glenn, who is 77, will still fly aboard the shuttle Discovery on Oct. 29. But in August he was dropped without announcement from a widely publicized experiment designed to test the hypnotic effects of very small amounts of the natural hormone, melatonin, on sleep and daytime activities in space.

>The study's principal investigator, Dr. Charles A. Czeisler of Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston, said in interviews over the weekend that he was surprised when he had to disqualify Mr. Glenn.

>''He did not meet one of the medical criteria that was established for participation in our study,'' Dr. Czeisler said. But he declined to specify the reason for the change, citing NASA's rule forbidding disclosure of medical information without the subject's permission.

>Through his spokesman, Jack Sparks, Mr. Glenn declined to elaborate.

>NASA had rated the melatonin experiment as one of the two top priorities in the human studies aboard Mr. Glenn's shuttle flight. Mr. Glenn will still participate in two other planned experiments -- monitoring sleep and use of protein -- that focus on studying similarities between aging on Earth and flying weightless in space. Sleep disorders are a particular problem among the elderly and astronauts, who in adjusting to the 90 minute day-night cycles in space often take sleeping pills and sometimes stimulants.

>The experiments have been cited as the principal reasons Mr. Glenn is going into space for the second time.


https://www.nytimes.com/1998/10/21/us/glenn-unable-to-perform-experiment-planned-for-space-flight.html

[Anonymous No.12753547]

>>12753492
compared to dish soap and pencils in the blender?

[Anonymous No.12753550]

>>12753478
Glenn had been a fully trained astronaut and gone up before, so there was a proper baseline to compare with. Besides, Glenn had been cucked out of any further launches because he was a HERO! We can't let him get killed in space now! So we kind of owed him one. If anyone should have been sent up as research on "old folks in space", he was the one.
"Barfin' Jake" Garn going up was much more of a problem than John Glenn.

[Anonymous No.12753554]

How do we, ordinary citizens, lobby NASA do do interesting missions such as this one?
>>12753426

[Anonymous No.12753557]

>>12753554
Get someone in Congress to push it. NASA can't do anything big without the big bucks.

[Anonymous No.12753560]

>>12753554
There's nothing we can do. It's all up to professors across the US to deliver good proposals. From then on you just pray that NASA chooses the best ones. Idk how they go about the selection process, to my knowledge it is a committee who votes on it, but no amount of lobbying will be able to change their votes

[Anonymous No.12753569]

>>12753465
It'll turn. The government have utterly fucked education and this is going to infuriate the middle classes. They're going to have literally millions of Karens on their ass. That's far more serious and damaging than easily dismissed angry men

[Anonymous No.12753572]

>>12753560
I know they have different programs, like the Discovery program, New Frontiers program, etc. They should introduce a new one where multiple missions get proposed - all proposals have the same budget - and the public votes on it. That would be fun. But also NASA is on its way out and soon we will be able to self-fund deep space missions through SpaceX so...

[Anonymous No.12753574]

How's the public interest in space right now? I imagine it's much lower than about 60 years ago. Though I can also imagine it was also much lower 15 years ago.

[Anonymous No.12753581]

So creating oxygen on board? Would a terrarium be a safe choice? I get pressurized oxygen isn't cool, but if you could simulate an earth-like environment on-board?
>don't care about microbial infestation

[Anonymous No.12753587]

>>12752821
It's no skin of their back since they're a tank manufacturer and a launch provider, but for their subcontractors, it's a major cut in revenue.
That's probably why it was ditched.

[Anonymous No.12753590]

>>12753550
>Glenn had been a fully trained astronaut
He was retired for 3 and a half decades. He was too old for Apollo. Garn would be a viable candidate for selection, Glenn at 77 would not.

>If anyone should have been sent up as research on "old folks in space", he was the one.
Nope. He was disqualified from one of the major experiments. If it was really about science he would have been immediately replaced:
>>12753544

[Anonymous No.12753597]

>>12753590
He retired because they won't let him go back up again.
>He was disqualified from one of the major experiments.
After he was already chosen. Bureaucracy wouldn't let them choose anyone else so late. That's a fundamental problem with how NASA is organized and funded.

[Anonymous No.12753600]

>>12753359
Ah, the good old "Everything's intensely flammable" aesthetic.

[Anonymous No.12753604]

>>12752719
>I showed you my heat tiles now answer me

[Anonymous No.12753607]

>>12753557
Not a good idea. Look at Europa Lander. If politicians lobby for specific missions they can just collapse when they inevitably leave. In reality the selection should be driven by scientists, not by politicians with vested interests. In the case of Europa Lander it was one representative who tried to overrule the planetary science Decadal Survey which ranks large scientific priorities. When Culberson was voted out there was no community support for the lander because it hadn't played by the rules, so it was defunded. Push for higher budgets, not specific missions. The last thing NASA needs is politicians gumming up the works by inserting themselves into the process further.

[Anonymous No.12753618]

>>12753597
>After he was already chosen.
Every other opportunity like this came with backup crew members. Most mission specialists had backups. For teacher in space they had an alternate ready right up until the launch.

[Anonymous No.12753626]

>>12753618
Dunno why the other guy keeps defending it. Glenn's placement was either corruption due to his status/clout OR some kind of weird marketing attempt to get people interested in space again.

[Anonymous No.12753633]

> Americas are discovered by Columbus , colonised within half a century
> outer space discovered, not even a long term settlement
Are we just at the Vinland stage then?

[Anonymous No.12753639]

>>12753626
Oh wow this takes me WAY back. I was on reddit circa 2008 or 2009 and there was a thread on John Glenn going to space on the shuttle. Someone who worked at NASA or with NASA or something showed up and talked about how it was basically due to lobbying from Congress that directly guaranteed him a seat.

[Anonymous No.12753650]

>>12753574
Probably the best it's been since the 80's. SpaceX has really got people interested in space again because they are actually doing real shit in space and not just another pipe dream "study" project or whatever. Starship actually has normies paying attention every once in awhile. My Dad who has normally zero interest in space asked me the other day to explain it to him even.

>>12753633
Sending a wooden sailing ship to the Americas full of colonists cost probably the equivalent of like a couple hundred thousand dollars. Sending people just to LEO (in other words, just getting people on the fucking "sea") costs several millions per person. Hopefully Starship can bring that cost down to a couple thousands per person but even then it won't be comparable to how cheap it was to send undesirables and religious wackos to other continents. Colonization of space on a level comparable to the age of sail won't happen until there is either some kind of space elevator or we find a way to send people to space for a couple hundred bucks a pop.

[Anonymous No.12753655]

>>12753581
plants/algae are a safer bet imo
there are some experimental reactors that generate O2 from CO2, but there might be problem with them generating poisonous CO as well

[Anonymous No.12753666]

>>12753600
it could be a 0.5mm thick veneer on stainless steel
literally non-issue
not sure about the carpets though

[Anonymous No.12753667]

>>12753655
thanks dood :)
i feel like it would be a viable option if looking to farm on board for foods

[Anonymous No.12753679]

>>12753600
Just open the airlocks. No more fire. No more inattentive crew either

[Anonymous No.12753688]

>>12753359
>table has a built in stripper pole
Based

[Anonymous No.12753700]

Bruh

[Anonymous No.12753703]

>>12753700
Bezos and Gates are the same soul reincarnated in different bodies.

[Anonymous No.12753707]

>>12753700
https://electrek.co/2021/02/24/bill-gates-all-but-admits-shorting-tesla-tsla/
What the fuck

[Anonymous No.12753716]

>>12753700
>>12753707

[Anonymous No.12753718]

>>12753700
Come on Elon take Starlink public. You know you want to.

[Anonymous No.12753772]

So, how hard do you people think it is to get into aerospace research/industry from a physics background?

[Anonymous No.12753780]

>>12753716
>The New York Times
>Critical thinking bad
Why does this not surprise me?

[Anonymous No.12753784]

>>12753667
yeah, ISS uses several systems, but primary one is electrolysis and they just chuck CO2 and H2 overboard to maintain correct pressure.
and because Shuttle fuel cells generated water as a waste, nobody bothered to come up with something less wasteful for a while.
After Shuttle, they added Sabatier reactor to regenerate some oxygen from CO2 and water. The resulting methane also gets vented, but overall you use up less water.

Starship could in theory use the same system and you could slowly convert chicken tendies to get a tiny bit of extra fuel.
you would need a few tons of water to keep it running, but that's just more radiation shielding.

[Anonymous No.12753785]

>>12753772
Not all that hard, it depends on your length of experience and what you've accomplished.
Of course, it also depends on finding a company that will hire you, so your gender and race will come in to play because of muh diversity.

[Anonymous No.12753805]

TFR for Monday
https://twitter.com/SpaceTfrs/status/1364934837644255233?s=19

[Anonymous No.12753819]

>>12753785
with a physics degree you should be pretty much able to build a rocket from the ground up on your own

[Anonymous No.12753820]

>>12753700
A week or so ago he said "why go to space when earth has problems". Starting to think he doesn't like Musk.

[Anonymous No.12753823]

Why does it seem that Roscosmos has really tried to ramp up their public image recently? That last soyuz resupply stream was an emulation of SpaceX. And their youtube channel has ramped up activity recently
https://youtu.be/fiRuR5g7grA

[Anonymous No.12753828]

>>12753823
This one is also super based
https://youtu.be/zNNe0D0ufws

[Anonymous No.12753833]

hop when?

[Anonymous No.12753838]

>>12753823
Maybe they saw the number of live viewers NASA and SpaceX got and got jealous.

[Anonymous No.12753851]

>>12752834
>>12752827
whoa
nice job
I didn't expect somebody would do it for me

[Anonymous No.12753855]

>>12753823
Probably just finally got around to hiring millennials in media positions

[Anonymous No.12753865]

>>12753819
With infinite time and resources, yeah. A physics degree gives you the base knowledge of the working of things, but you won't have the 'know-how' of an engineer straight away. That takes extra time.

[Anonymous No.12753876]

>>12753823
Tbf I have been subscribed to the Roscosmos channel for years now, and they have always been relatively active

[Anonymous No.12753891]

Can someone spoonfeed me a rundown of the current state of the different space agencies like NASA, ESA, JAXA, CNSA, ISRO, etc. and also the current state of some private companies like SpaceX, Blue Origin, Boeing, etc?

[Anonymous No.12753892]

>>12753718
Hell take it public but in crypto only

[Anonymous No.12753900]

>>12753891
SpaceX is making a giant rocket in a desert with a blowtorch and hammer

Blue origin is also trying to make a big rocket but they're very secret about it

Boeing is still bribbing the gubmint with expensive dinners to keep the gravy train going. But the only way any part of SLS ever reaches orbit is if the eventual launch pad explosion is big enough to launch the debris into orbit.

[Anonymous No.12753907]

>>12753900
>eventual launch pad explosion is big enough to launch the debris into orbit.
kek

[Anonymous No.12753915]

>>12752814
People might think those are children in the pic but they are actually just ESA astronauts.

[Anonymous No.12753919]

>>12753891
>NASA
screwed over by politics and slowly waking up to that
>ESA/Roscosmos
NASA's political situation but on steroids and coping by pretending to copy SpaceX
>JAXA
mini-NASA
>CNSA
slowly working up to start the next sputnik scare
>Chinese startups
see CNSA
>ISRO
most advanced trashbag interstage technology and catching up to the other big agencies
>SpaceX
the only reason why people take spaceflight seriously again and a huge monopoly risk
>Blue Origin
could be another SpaceX but instead trying to be another ESA
>Boing
lol
>Lockheed Martin
has good potential but is tied to Boing
>ULA
see lockmart

[Anonymous No.12753921]

anyone know how to bulk download images from nasa? I need 290 perseverance images from here:
https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/multimedia/raw-images/
but I don't want to manually click download on every single one.

[Anonymous No.12753941]

>>12753919
also

>Rocket Lab
ADORABLE

[Anonymous No.12753946]

>>12753679
reusable crews?

[Anonymous No.12753947]

>>12752834
ultrabased

[Anonymous No.12753950]

>>12753891
>write my essay for me
no

[Anonymous No.12753962]

>>12753921
Without scripting it your best bet is a webpage archiver like httrack

https://www.httrack.com/

[Anonymous No.12753966]

Early reminder, but EVA in 2 days to prep the ISS for new Solar Arrays
https://youtu.be/gcv6beMn750

[Anonymous No.12753967]

>>12753941
>Virgin Orbit, Astra, etc.
memes that won't matter much in the long run

[Anonymous No.12753972]

>>12752702
Imagine being stuck in space with that crazy bitch. Good job with Earth you're not stuck in containers righhhht /sci/?

You better get along with these people, you got no choice.

[Anonymous No.12753974]

>>12753967
vo is unironically the smallsat launcher that is most likely to succeed given that most countries want access to space without begging their neighbour but most due to geography can't launch from land based facilities.

[Anonymous No.12753975]

>>12753950
fair enough

[Anonymous No.12753984]

>>12753915

[Anonymous No.12753997]

>>12753921
You can wget from the link at the download path button. /g/ might be able to help you script something to grab them all

[Anonymous No.12754012]

>>12753915
Hey, why not save on payload? Send midgets.

[Anonymous No.12754020]

>>12753915

[Anonymous No.12754039]

>>12753823
Everyone has been trying to copy SpaceX way of things. Its natural to emulate/copy the leader.

[Anonymous No.12754042]

>>12753921
Maybe you can use a scrapper. There's a python library called scrappy, with that I think you could automatically get the URLs of the images and proceed to download them with a few more lines of code. Although it may be entirely possible that the website is protected against scrappers or something like that. But there always is a way.

[Anonymous No.12754049]

>>12754039
So far the only one who’s testing their reusable rocket prototype is ESA. China is too but they’re a bit farther behind.

[Anonymous No.12754054]

>>12754049
would we even know if china was close to reusable rockets? they could probably keep a lid on it for a while

[Anonymous No.12754060]

does sfg have an irc

[Anonymous No.12754068]

>>12754054
They put out a video recently enough of them successfully testing their Grasshopper clone so I'm sure they'll be happy to share as long as the results paint them in the most positive light

[Anonymous No.12754073]

New Raptor is green!

[Anonymous No.12754078]

>>12754073
all new raptors are green if i am correct

[Anonymous No.12754081]

>>12754073
>environmentalists complain that rockets arent green enough
>spacex responds by painting their rocket parts green

[Anonymous No.12754085]

>>12754081
delightfully devilish, Elon

[Anonymous No.12754090]

what are some upcoming space exploration missions?

[Anonymous No.12754091]

>>12754060
You asked last thread. Kys.

[Anonymous No.12754094]

>>12754081
lmao

[Anonymous No.12754102]

>>12754049
India is also going the reusable route afaik. While not at pursuit of reusable stage yet, Taiwan/SK/Japan/others have been trying to do the low cost rocket too.

[Anonymous No.12754108]

Everyone's talking about who's going to be the first on the Moon and Mars but who is going to be second?

[Anonymous No.12754110]

>>12754108
you and me baby.

[Anonymous No.12754114]

>>12754110
ain't nothin' but mammals

[Anonymous No.12754115]

>>12754078
The new ones are. Pretty sure SN9 had one green Raptor.

[Anonymous No.12754116]

>>12754073
>>12754081

[Anonymous No.12754121]

>>12753819
>with a _______ degree you should be pretty much able to build a ________ from the ground up on your own
Not at all. A lot of people seem to think that college will teach you everything that you need to know about the area of study its in. Assuming the college is worth a damn, you should lean the fundamentals, then expand on them into much more complex areas. Possibly touching into a really specific area or two.
A masters will take you push you further into a specific topic, and a PHD will let you be a teacher.
You will ideally learn a lot once you get out into the world and land a job to where you can actually apply what you learned in class. Anyone can burn equations into their head and regurgitate numbers onto a paper for a test, but it a different animal to put it to work in reality. Hence why a lot of companies are making the shift towards people with real experience and a passion for a job as opposed to some kid who only has a crisp degree.
Not to mention that a physics degree doesn't go deep enough into some areas such as electronics to build the control system for the rocket.

[Anonymous No.12754124]

>>12754108
First and second will likely be SpaceX. Third forth fifth as well. Maybe 6th or 7th will be NASA? Maybe some international crew by 10th? Who knows.

[Anonymous No.12754139]

>>12754124
If SpaceX is going to be first and second, then what are they going to do there? Do they have a scientific program?

[Anonymous No.12754142]

>>12754078
Maybe from now on. If I recall correctly there was one green raptor some time ago but a few not-green ones had arrived later too.

[Anonymous No.12754143]

>>12754090
DART is launching in July.

[Anonymous No.12754144]

>>12754139
>then what are they going to do there?
Seems like everything they do is geared towards building space infrastructure so they might look towards putting such hardware on the moon and mars

[Anonymous No.12754146]

I wonder what these two structures are

[Anonymous No.12754147]

>>12754073
>>12754115
SN45 was, not sure what its fate was/is.

[Anonymous No.12754149]

>>12754147
forgot pic

[Anonymous No.12754155]

>>12754139
>scientific program
If NASA funds them, sure why not. Otherwise, most of the initial stuff is setting up the infrastructure.

[Anonymous No.12754156]

>>12754081
Real Ork WAAAGH energy right here

[Anonymous No.12754169]

Brick press/prefab hab-block mobile construction vehicles on mars when?

[Anonymous No.12754171]

>>12754146
>two structures
The white tubes in the background are for the SuperHeavy launch stand
No clue about the foreground, maybe they are building a second one, or attempting to make one of those "catch" stands for the SS booster.

[Anonymous No.12754175]

>>12754073
They are already going military

[Anonymous No.12754178]

If SpaceX find evidence of extraterrestrial life before NASA, how would they handle such information?

[Anonymous No.12754184]

>>12754171
I mean the ones in the foreground, which I now realize there are actually three of them (which maybe symmetry mandates there's gonna be a fourth one behind the one on the right). They seem waay to large to be another launch pad really. But yeah, I wonder if they have to do with the catch mechanism and/or the stacking tower

[Anonymous No.12754185]

https://www.blueorigin.com/news/new-glenns-progress-towards-maiden-flight
NEW GLENN DELAYED TO Q4 2022

[Anonymous No.12754195]

>>12754178
Sell it to the highest bidder.

[Anonymous No.12754204]

>>12754185
And no one is surprised.

[Anonymous No.12754206]

[Anonymous No.12754208]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSfpkayxsqA
>In 2020, China ranked second in the world in terms of number of lunches and weight payloads. Total weight reached 103 tons,
That's a hungry schedule.

[Anonymous No.12754209]

Videos of BO's Cape facilities
https://twitter.com/blueorigin/status/1364968313047162880 (factory)
https://twitter.com/blueorigin/status/1364968720364429317 (tank cleaning and testing facility)
https://twitter.com/blueorigin/status/1364969291746074628 (launch pad)
I can't hear the audio, but the NG pathfinder is in the first video, and it's embarrassingly low fidelity. At least they're showing us stuff though, and LC-36 is huge.

[Anonymous No.12754213]

>>12754185
oh no! anyway....

[Anonymous No.12754217]

>>12754185
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WE GOT TOO COCKY BO BROS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.12754220]

>>12754206
Edit in "other" between 'and' & 'people'

[Anonymous No.12754236]

>>12754185
WTF BLUEBROS YOU TOLD US NEW GLENN WOULD BTFO STARSHIP!

[Anonymous No.12754239]

>>12754185
Starship will be doing it's orbital testing and early missions before New Glenn even gets to the pad.

[Anonymous No.12754244]

>>12754185
>It will land before Starship does
>uhh i-it will land on Earth before Starship lands on Mars
soon
>... it will land before starship 18m

[Anonymous No.12754253]

>>12754244
>Look, it's on the ground now and that's what's important

[Anonymous No.12754254]

>>12754185
>>12754244
New Glenn will be the CyberPunk 2077 of rockets.

[Anonymous No.12754255]

>>12754146
Just below the top of the fence is a sign that reads "Starship Superheavy Orbital Launch Pad" So it has something to do with that.
I wouldn't be surprised if its another SH launch tower, they have two Starship launch pads.

[Anonymous No.12754262]

>>12754254
>>12754185
>>12754204
>>12754209
>>12754213
>>12754217
>>12754239
>>12754244
>>12754253
Why did you ever doubt SpaceX. Kneel to Elon-sama

[Anonymous No.12754264]

>>12754262
>>12754254
You need to go back /v/ tourist.

[Anonymous No.12754272]

>>12754264

[Anonymous No.12754284]

>>12752702
I had a weird dream where the trailer for a Jeff Bezos documentary showed up during the Super Bowl. Anyhow it starts off with him walking down a hallway with a full head of hair and every few seconds it would get a bit darker until the final sequence he was totally bald and there was fire behind him.

[Anonymous No.12754290]

>>12754264
>It doesn't need rapid development
>It doesn't need 50 tons of payload capacity
>It doesn't need a good engine
>It doesn't need more payload capacity
>It doesn't need to compete with SpaceX
>It doesn't need to fly in 2021 when we promised
We are here, coming up:
>It doesn't need to be reusable

[Anonymous No.12754295]

>>12754290
45 tons is such a weird number I can’t believe no one said “Hey, can we just put on 5 more tons?”

[Anonymous No.12754299]

>>12754290
It's just not funny. Please don't bring /v/ cancer into this general.

[Anonymous No.12754300]

I remember some schizos saying that biden will be good for space exploration on sfg

[Anonymous No.12754302]

>>12754185
>Q4 2022
Aka 2023.

[Anonymous No.12754306]

>>12754300
No one actually likes Biden here it’s just trolling. Once in a while a legitimate redditor shows up but other than that if you thought Biden would be good for space you’re a moron. Also it’s funny how most movies/tv/books have Conservative regimes being bad for space exploration, but the opposite is true in real life.

[Anonymous No.12754313]

>>12754300
Anything better then pence who was going to fire Jim for even thinking about axing SLS.
Biden will just get out of the way and let SpaceX do it's thing.

[Anonymous No.12754317]

>>12754313
Pence saved Jimmy from Shelby

[Anonymous No.12754320]

>>12753703
>Bezos and Gates
>soul

[Anonymous No.12754321]

>>12754300
Pic related
>>12754313
Thank Shelby, and by thank I mean hang in minecraft. Pence could've nutted up and told him to fuck back off to Alabama instead of backing him, bitch move.

[Anonymous No.12754323]

>>12754320
What else would you call their xenu alien energy?

[Anonymous No.12754324]

>>12754300
anyone has the list?
I wonder what was 24th and 26th priority

[Anonymous No.12754326]

>>12753700
There's nothing about this weird creepy ghoul that isn't stomach turning: his voice, his appearance, his opinions, his motivations, his 'wife'. Everything about him sickens me. I can't bear to even look at him

[Anonymous No.12754330]

>>12754300
Who the FUCK cares about what the public's interests are?

[Anonymous No.12754333]

>>12754326
I used to like Bill Gates until COVID started

[Anonymous No.12754334]

>>12754300
>>12754324
https://morningconsult.com/2021/02/25/space-force-travel-exploration-poll/

[Anonymous No.12754335]

>>12754330
Politicians who at least on the surface want to look like they're catering to the will of the people

[Anonymous No.12754339]

>>12754324
>>12754300
Here is the raw poll data. https://assets.morningconsult.com/wp-uploads/2021/02/24152659/210264_crosstabs_MC_TECH_SPACE_Adults_v1_AUTO.pdf

Looks like this has nothing to do with Biden's administration, but rather what the public wants from it. Pretty dishonest framing from that anon.

[Anonymous No.12754342]

>>12754330
Literally any politician in a democracy.

[Anonymous No.12754343]

>>12754334
1 in 4 people don’t support sending average joes? To Mars? Wtf

[Anonymous No.12754346]

>>12754300
tbf obamas/bidens total lack of fucks led to the commercial crew program which freed up funding/broke the oldspace monopoly that allowed spacex to go from falcon 1 to falcon 9 and crew dragon. which in term allowed for ss to be taken seriously.

[Anonymous No.12754347]

>>12754343
>we have problems to solve down here first

[Anonymous No.12754348]

>>12754300
This is the public opinion poll, not Biden's agenda. Still doesn't bode well, but anyone who has been following space for more then a year knows the public extreme disinterest for space exploration.

[Anonymous No.12754351]

>>12754300
>>12754334
Highlighted for relevance because the general public seems to hate human space travel and research into it.

[Anonymous No.12754352]

>>12753700
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T SHORT THE STOCKERINO!!!!!!!
Reddit getting involved with the stock market was the biggest mistake of the decade so far.

[Anonymous No.12754353]

>>12754347
This is the person that tells you NASA money should go to welfare

[Anonymous No.12754354]

>>12754300
but what does this have to do with biden? this is making me realize that /sfg/ can't read. besides, if it weren't for obama/ biden we would never have gotten commercial crew

[Anonymous No.12754357]

>>12754351
Welcome to the last 40 years since apollo anon. Glad you could join us.

[Anonymous No.12754360]

>>12753700
Bill Gates and Warren Buffet are long time friends. Buffet owns chinese EV company and has tried to compete with Tesla. Buffet has tried to ban solar panels on homes in many states where he owns the coal power plants.

[Anonymous No.12754361]

>>12754351
This poll might be a tad misleading depending on how the questions were structured. If it was a ranking system then obviously manned spaceflight gets knocked down by asteroid monitoring and general technological development

[Anonymous No.12754367]

>>12754354
>but what does this have to do with biden?
muh party tribalism. dw you guys aren't special it happens in all countries. mongs basically.

[Anonymous No.12754368]

>>12754354
> this is making me realize that /sfg/ can't read.
95% of people online don't read anything. They just see the tweet about something they don't like mentioning a person they don't like and get angry.

[Anonymous No.12754372]

>>12754352
Bill Gates is reddit and so are you

[Anonymous No.12754376]

>>12754185
inb4 2024

[Anonymous No.12754377]

>>12753700
when will covid bucks be used to screw over more short sellers?

[Anonymous No.12754380]

>>12754376
2024? Why do you need a rocket by 2025? We're already in a time crunch to get this thing ready by 2026!

[Anonymous No.12754387]

>>12754377
They will never give the people a chance to do that again.

[Anonymous No.12754389]

>>12754372
Just remember: A redditor and his money are soon parted.

[Anonymous No.12754391]

>>12754380
kek, unironically this will happen though

[Anonymous No.12754392]

>>12754185
Anybody know what the fuck went wrong with BO? They have billions from daddy bezos each year, they should have real hardware flying by now

[Anonymous No.12754393]

>>12754361
Misleading or not this stuff travels up the stream through advisors to policy makers. NASA will be exclusively an earth science administration eventually. It will be irrelevant before then anyway.

[Anonymous No.12754395]

>>12754351
They're not wrong. Honestly, you can't even do space travel in the first place with an increasingly third world population, failing infrastructure, elites that only care to enrich themselves and control the populace, and women voters

[Anonymous No.12754398]

>>12754387
>WE'RE TAKING DOWN THE HEDGE FUNDS WITH OUR COVID NEET BUCKS
No you aren't you dumb fuck, you're getting sold the bag.

[Anonymous No.12754399]

>>12754389
Shorting Tesla is an easy way to do that.

[Anonymous No.12754400]

>>12754395
Exactly. Space is for the rich. Smartphone is for the rich. Color TV is for the rich. Air planes and cars are for the rich. Electricity is for the rich. We should ban those.

[Anonymous No.12754406]

>>12754392
Looks like the breakroom AND the workroom coffee machines broke on the same day grounding development to a halt for the time being. A tragic black swan accident that will hold back human progress for years.

[Anonymous No.12754407]

>>12754398
I've never bought a stonk in my life anon, don't be so mad.

[Anonymous No.12754410]

>>12754387
Did they finally start banning people with less than a million in the back from buying stocks?

To make this spaceflight related, will there even be a stock market on other planets?

[Anonymous No.12754413]

>>12754380
>due to extreme budgetary constraints following the worldwide corona virus shock we commit to in this 2024 to 2028 presidential period a total axing of all nasa launch vehicles both crewed and uncrewed
>from this day forward nasa will use only commercially available launch architecture and will refocus around scientific and human exploration within that constraint
>sls and all components that could be used to resurrect it will be thrown into the sea
>alabama will be split up equally between its neighbouring states

[Anonymous No.12754414]

>>12754392
Bezos fell for the oldspace meme. He (somehow) got a ton of contracts for “future” tech he had on paper, then realized he was making money while going at a snail’s pace. Now it’s catching up with him.
Also, botice how Elon is always flying across the US to visit meetings for all his companies? He will be in a Tesla meeting and then fly to Texas for a starship meeting, and make sure everyone is busting their ass. Bezos doesn’t do this. Bezos just hands out monthly money to everyone and says “make it work I guess”

[Anonymous No.12754420]

>>12754392
Because Bezos is running BO like he ran Amazon. Slowly moving to absorb everything without people knowing. Also, the company was never under threat of foreclosing due to lack of progress so there is no pressure to get results

[Anonymous No.12754421]

>>12754393
> NASA will be exclusively an earth science administration eventually
that's not true. increasingly NASA doesn't even need that much funding for manned spaceflight because private companies are doing the expensive vehicle development. (which is subsidized by NASA still) I'm not sure why everyone imagines there is some boogeyman trying to kill human spaceflight when in reality there is more interest in it than at any time since Apollo. more climate observation missions aren't the end of the world, and they're actually one of the cheapest things NASA does

[Anonymous No.12754422]

>>12754410
I'd bet information-centric infrastructure like stock markets will be one of the easiest and thus first things that come over. Martians will have to handle stocks through a third party or something because of the delay though.

[Anonymous No.12754442]

>>12754400
I've never seen anyone miss the point this hard in my life

[Anonymous No.12754444]

Why the fuck do people want NASA to focus on environmental research when we have a goddamn Environmental Agency.

[Anonymous No.12754456]

>>12754444
they can't build rockets or satellites.

[Anonymous No.12754460]

>>12754421
>politicians appeal to whatever they think public opinion tells them to appeal to
>this is a boogeyman
I'm not a conspiracist, this is just how things work. And to be honest, it's not even that big of a shift. Less than 10% of NASA's money does anything of importance to the future of spaceflight. Most is dedicated to large dead end or failing endeavors specifically designed to soak up as much money as possible, because spending efficiently only reduces your budget in the future. The same people can do that with Earth science.

[Anonymous No.12754464]

>>12754444
Checked and who knows, it really boggles my mind. Can NOAA not do it themselves?? Why does NASA seem to exist on a linear scale between “cool probes and human spaceflight” and “literal climate watching satellites”. It’s so stupid

[Anonymous No.12754467]

>>12754444
Few people know about NOAA and even fewer know what it does. NASA is way more popular and thus carry a level of perceived authority. NASA could say that it is proven through space science that eating an orange after brushing your teeth will help fight corona and there will be many people doing that

[Anonymous No.12754472]

>>12754444
WOKE ideologues.

[Anonymous No.12754482]

So, when are you guys gonna give up the LARP and accept spaceflight peaked in the 70s?

[Anonymous No.12754483]

>>12754460
If your reality was the actuall reality then the shuttle would never have happened, ISS would have been canceled, commercial crew would have never happened etc. Just because congress won't let NASA dump hundreds of billions into building a moon base (yet) doesn't mean that manned spaceflight is somehow existentially threatened

[Anonymous No.12754494]

>BO has a SIDEWAYS American flag in their factory
literally ngmi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXOXKfarFhg

[Anonymous No.12754499]

>>12754494
I must say, those buildings look really nice

[Anonymous No.12754501]

>>12754147
Probably the one that didn't relight

[Anonymous No.12754502]

>>12754482
Of course it did, the whole point is trying to get that peak back so it can be pushed further like it should've been.

[Anonymous No.12754504]

>>12754482
You don't know what you're sayin' boy. Spaceflight hasn't even begun to peak
https://youtu.be/gdWAhP8rYKA

[Anonymous No.12754505]

>>12754472
reminder that conservative ideologues are almost solely responsible for SLS and gateway

[Anonymous No.12754507]

>>12754483
The shuttle was the beginning of the end for NASA and the biggest blow to the progress of spaceflight in the last century.

[Anonymous No.12754508]

>>12754420
I'll believe it when I see it. I simply can't see BO emerging suddenly as a proper competitor

[Anonymous No.12754510]

>>12754482
>accept spaceflight peaked in the 70s?
I already accept that spaceflight peaked in 2677. It's hard to top using a gravity assist around a black hole to reach functional lightspeed

[Anonymous No.12754514]

>>12754456
They can commission and pay nasa to monitor them

[Anonymous No.12754521]

>>12754507
but it at least kept human spaceflight alive during a time when there was virtually no interest in it

[Anonymous No.12754527]

>>12754505
No, SL/Gateway are oldspace industry ideas. The SLS slice of pie is in almost every state.

[Anonymous No.12754532]

>>12754521
That was pretty much the sole reason why the Nixon administration approved it right? Just to say manned spaceflight is still a thing in a time when no one really cared about pursuing it

[Anonymous No.12754534]

>>12754527
just saying, if we'd all just vote blue we could end corporate lobbying for good and effectively kill oldspace

[Anonymous No.12754542]

>>12754532
Nixon didn't like the optics of 'canceling the future' iirc

[Anonymous No.12754545]

>>12754534
oldspace is a continuation of the military. for as long as the us wants to stay king dick in military and economic terms there will be oldspace.

[Anonymous No.12754548]

>>12754545
are you implying spacex can't launch military sats better and more reliably than oldspace? because that's incorrect

[Anonymous No.12754551]

>>12754548
it's not about launching anything (well, not anything that isn't supposed to go bang)

[Anonymous No.12754563]

>>12754551
they are also shit at making planes apparently. the only reason they are able to get all the contracts they do is because they have tons of well connected lobbyists in washington. we need a ban on lobbying in general

[Anonymous No.12754567]

>>12754563
How does lobbying work even?

[Anonymous No.12754568]

>>12754534
Seems like you're one of those woke folks.

[Anonymous No.12754574]

>>12754563
>we need a ban on lobbying in general
apparently that's protected by the first amendment

[Anonymous No.12754575]

>>12754563
it's part lobbying, mainly the need to keep certain technological know-how in peace time without winding other parties up.
why do you think the $20bn 2020s rocket still flies ("flies") with srbs strapped to the side?

[Anonymous No.12754577]

>>12754534
Back when SLS was started, Florida was a blue state.

[Anonymous No.12754586]

>>12754507
>134 missions
Oh noes, NASA is finished

[Anonymous No.12754590]

>>12754586
>>12754586
It was supposed to do a mission like every 2 weeks, not once every quarter

[Anonymous No.12754594]

>>12754590
The old shuttle art is so sad they wanted to fly one a week. Thankfully Starship forgoes most of the issues that hurt the shuttle

[Anonymous No.12754597]

>>12754590
Plus decrease the cost of launching things to orbit by orders of magnitude, not become the most expensive means of getting to space

[Anonymous No.12754598]

>>12754586
>134 missions that Gemini could've done better
>134 missions where NASA rarely went beyond LEO
>134 missions that started the "space is hard" mantra

[Anonymous No.12754600]

>>12752732

[Anonymous No.12754603]

>>12754598
In what way would Gemini be better? Unless you are talking about Big G.

[Anonymous No.12754606]

>>12754598
>134 missions that Gemini could've done better
lmao

[Anonymous No.12754607]

>>12754600
Thank you. It’s beautiful

[Anonymous No.12754608]

>>12754603
they took her from us

[Anonymous No.12754609]

>>12754603
Big G is Kino. I’m trying (and failing) to write a book about MOL expect I have no idea how to make a cool story about it.

[Anonymous No.12754621]

>>12754608
>>12754603
Can someone help me come up with a timeline where Shuttle is cancelled and instead we have Big G launching on Titan IIIM/Saturn IB? I’m thinking it’s one where Russia enters Vietnam so less money reaches NASA. Apollo 17-20 and Skylab are canned alongside the shuttle, but MOL survives due to its military application

[Anonymous No.12754632]

>>12754603
In what universe had Gemini a crew of seven and motherfucking space arm?

[Anonymous No.12754636]

>>12754632
The based universe

[Anonymous No.12754638]

>>12754600
lol

[Anonymous No.12754639]

>>12754621
While I can't help you out with a specific timeline I imagine had MOL made it to launch it would have shared the same fate as Almaz, with the military quickly realizing that there's no point in having a crew onboard for space reconnaissance

[Anonymous No.12754644]

>>12754609
>>12754621
>alternate timeline
>Big G is selected over shuttle
>due to Big G being cheaper than the Shuttle and other external factors, NASA is severely under funded
>Big G MOL is launched as a mini-space station freedom
>the USSR perfected the N1 and the fission powered ion tech
>eager to upstage the US after Vietnam the USSR begins assembly of a spacecraft to send men to Mars
>the US desperately tries to put together a response mission
>ends up quickly refitting Big G MOL to be a Martian transport craft
>NASA fills it with the best 80s tech and Apollo veterans
>the new space race is on
>but we all know how harsh of a mistress space can be

[Anonymous No.12754645]

>>12754632
>needing a crew of 7 to launch satellites
wew

[Anonymous No.12754648]

>>12753484
>>12754600
Fixed

[Anonymous No.12754649]

Whoever posted this in the last thread, FUCK YOU I hate you and the people who made it. I felt bad for like half an hour, because some stupid commie company is applying focussed, engineered psychological warfare on us!

[Anonymous No.12754650]

>>12754648
KEK

[Anonymous No.12754655]

>>12754577
florida hasn't been a blue or red state for decades. it's the most notoriously flip floppy state in the country

[Anonymous No.12754658]

>>12754632
>In what universe had Gemini a crew of seven
>he doesn't know
Also I'm sure they could have figured some way of shoving a manipulator arm on here if they really wanted to

[Anonymous No.12754659]

>>12754649
>ywn have a robot wife
so alone

[Anonymous No.12754667]

>>12754648
Jej NASAcucks seething.

>>12754639
How about for Satellite attacks/defense? The Soviets launch Polyus. What if they launched it in the 70’s on an N1 instead?

>>12754644
Call HBO and tell them to make a sequel for From the Earth to the Moon

[Anonymous No.12754668]

>>12754658
>that poor cunt that has to sit on the boxes in the back

[Anonymous No.12754673]

>>12754659
;___;

[Anonymous No.12754674]

>>12752791
it's about the best that oldspace can do within their pretty narrow limitations. Should be good enough to keep them relevant.

If you're talking about Dream Chaser, I'm not sure. Don't know how it compares to Dragon. It's really cool, though. And it's vortex engines are pretty fucking rad. Might even run on propane; not sure.

[Anonymous No.12754675]

>>12754649
lmao
>>12754659
dare to dream anon

[Anonymous No.12754676]

>>12754649
Friendly reminder that the best minds of today are either doing pointless financial busywork by trying to be 0.000001ms faster to buy a stock than the other guy, or working on advertising to trick boomers into using their money.

[Anonymous No.12754677]

>>12754073
You just know any oldspace provider would be transporting their engine inside a climate controlled isolation safespace box mounted to a super advanced $10 million 5-axis self levelling trailer that would get used once every two years

[Anonymous No.12754681]

>>12754668
You could probably fit like 25-30 people in that thing goddamn. In a world without Starship that could’ve been our colonial transporter.

[Anonymous No.12754683]

>>12754659
>ywn colonize Mars with your waifu

[Anonymous No.12754684]

>>12754676
Top tier brainlet cope

[Anonymous No.12754694]

>>12754675
AHHHH MAKE IT STOP!!!
Imagine how much suffering companies could create this way.

I have to get my mind off of this, think pointy, anon! Pointy!

[Anonymous No.12754696]

>>12754073
>>12754081
In all seriousness though, the green means a thicker chromium oxide layer, meaning either a different nozzle jacket alloy, different heat treat process, or likely both.

[Anonymous No.12754703]

>>12754146
They're going to make 4 more of those and complete a second hexagon of massive concrete pillars to act as a launch mount for Starship, the design has been updated to a 36 meter diameter.

[Anonymous No.12754712]

>>12754703
>36 meter diameter

[Anonymous No.12754719]

Will Starship be capable of SSTO?

[Anonymous No.12754724]

>>12754719
on mars

[Anonymous No.12754725]

>>12752824
>1st Starship with a fully shiny nosecone
feelin' good about this one lads
>>12752834
very nice
>>12753700
Starting to think that this guy is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Apparently his new book is pretty fucked. Pic related. The West desperately needs to get its elites under control. Wield way too much power.
>>12753823
Space is hot right now. Good way to revamp Russia's image is to ride the wave. Besides, they have a long history here so they might as well make use of it.
>>12754146
I've heard conflicting information. Some are saying that it's a tank farm. Apparently workers said this BUT the pipes are headed everywhere but that area. Others are thinking that area is going to host bigass cranes and stands for the complete Starship stack.

[Anonymous No.12754728]

>>12754719
Only on Mars and smaller bodies

[Anonymous No.12754733]

>>12754725
Why are you posting literal who tweets? Just go post on twitter if you want to post there so badly.

[Anonymous No.12754737]

>>12754725
>irrelevant twitter posting

[Anonymous No.12754746]

>>12754725
>>>/pol/
nobody cares about your paranoid political obsessions

[Anonymous No.12754754]

>>12754185
>we had to delay bc we didnt get selected
>our customers wanted us to delay it
>uh.. uh... jobs?
they should have just said covid done delayed it lmao

[Anonymous No.12754760]

>>12752702
SpaceX is testing their Starship elevator

[Anonymous No.12754772]

>>12754760
Wait what, first I'm seeing this elevator thing

[Anonymous No.12754773]

>>12754185
hasnt berger been saying it's internally NET 2023 for two years now?

[Anonymous No.12754774]

>>12753042
we still dont have personal airplanes bro
by the time we get personal spaceplanes dreamchaser is going to be as useful as a model T

[Anonymous No.12754780]

>>12754760
Oh woah it's within the ring. This is cool

[Anonymous No.12754782]

>>12754772

[Anonymous No.12754787]

>>12754760
Where did you get this from?

[Anonymous No.12754790]

>>12754494
god i cant stand the obvious editing cuts in these awful marketing videos. is it so hard to do it right in one take?

[Anonymous No.12754794]

>>12754787
This was the source tweet: https://twitter.com/StephenClark1/status/1364604621226979334

[Anonymous No.12754799]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr_qXckB134

[Anonymous No.12754800]

>>12754794
oof...not a good look SpaceX aka Space Fraud. an elevator? how bout make some real hardware

[Anonymous No.12754804]

>>12754719
From Mars/Moon.

[Anonymous No.12754807]

YOU WILL CLIMB DOWN THE LADDER

[Anonymous No.12754808]

>>12754760
Just give the contact to best girl already.

[Anonymous No.12754810]

>>12754800
You're right about one thing; it's not a good look; it's a GREAT look!

[Anonymous No.12754815]

So the stuff we saw few weeks ago from the Blue Origin factory is not a real first stage, but rather a mock up.

What a shit show.

[Anonymous No.12754822]

>>12754815
Its a pathfinder; this was known.

[Anonymous No.12754826]

>>12754815
>been developing an engine for a decade
>still haven't made useable prototypes

[Anonymous No.12754828]

>>12754800
You're right, they need to spend ten years and ten billion more dollars doing a bunch of CGI renders instead. No respectable space company actually sends anything to space, everybody knows that the point of a space company is defrauding the government, not going to space.

[Anonymous No.12754833]

>>12754815
>Blue Origin built an inflatable lander for NASA human lander system
So thats where this mock up comes from.

[Anonymous No.12754834]

any good spaceflight podcasts out there? i need something informative to listen to while training for mars

[Anonymous No.12754835]

>>12754290
>It doesn't need to be a rocket
>We're an engine company after all
That's where we're going

[Anonymous No.12754840]

>>12754290
They originally wanted New Glenn to be fully reusable. But they scaled it down. Its now first stage landing only. They may scrap that too in order to speed up their first few missions.

[Anonymous No.12754843]

>>12754834
mainenginecutoff, offnominal

[Anonymous No.12754846]

>>12754834
my brain just cannot comprehend the scale of the features in this video. It goes from looking like a few miles up to less than a foot across almost instantly. Maybe there's something fundamental about lower gravity that makes the dust the engines kick up look different, but it's crazy to look at.

[Anonymous No.12754848]

>>12754810
are you implying Mars Base Camp isn't awesome?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHCFWLrlCWY

[Anonymous No.12754860]

>>12754848
MBC is great but Lockheed is still OldSpace and would never build it if they didn’t get money to do so.

[Anonymous No.12754867]

>>12754347

[Anonymous No.12754885]

>>12754848
I'm saying Mars Base Camp is awesome.

[Anonymous No.12754903]

>>12754674
>It's really cool, though.

[Anonymous No.12754910]

>>12754903
a fucking skid

[Anonymous No.12754918]

>>12754903
It's cute but I prefer Kliper.

[Anonymous No.12754921]

>>12754910
Deal with it

[Anonymous No.12754923]

>>12754810
>galley
>air lock
For some reason I read this as "art gallery" and then wondered why a spaceship would need an art gallery.

[Anonymous No.12754928]

>>12754903
>farscape module

[Anonymous No.12754935]

>>12754918
>So obese you have to use your escape systems to try and reach orbit when strapped to the most powerful rocket your country has
>Fail that
>Get canceled
Such is life in Soviet Russia

[Anonymous No.12754937]

>>12754810
that is such a cramped spacecraft

[Anonymous No.12754942]

>>12754923
>he doesn't admire the arts whilst shitting in a tube
ngmi

[Anonymous No.12754948]

>>12753919
>lockmart
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Lockheed Martin is is, in fact, Aerojet Rocketdyne/Lockheed Martin, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Aerojet Rocketdyne plus Lockheed Martin.

[Anonymous No.12754950]

>>12754342
lol
lmao

[Anonymous No.12754960]

>>12754942
I'm surprised none of the Apollo astronauts painted a shitty picture in lunar orbit or while on the moon and then brought it home and sold it to an art gallery for some ungodly amount of money. Or even that no one has done that on the ISS.

If I ever become a billionaire i'm going to send a bunch of artists to orbit and have them do some zero G painting and then make a traveling exhibition on Earth with them.

[Anonymous No.12754964]

>>12754392
BO is a new company grown around a skeleton of ancient oldspace dinosaurs. Their work culture is effectively the exact same as any other old NASA contractor.

[Anonymous No.12754971]

>>12754928
stargate spacesuit

[Anonymous No.12754973]

>>12754782
can they please do something to make it appear less likely to tip over, it's triggering me

[Anonymous No.12754987]

>>12754973

[Anonymous No.12754993]

>>12754950

[Anonymous No.12754995]

>>12754971
Indeed

[Anonymous No.12754997]

>>12754807
are they sure that's OSHA compliant?

[Anonymous No.12755000]

>>12754973
>tip over
From what? Lunar wind?

[Anonymous No.12755008]

>>12754995
I’ve always been bothered by shows and movies set hundreds of years into the future but Spacesuit tech is still the same as today. Kinda like Star Trek

[Anonymous No.12755010]

>>12755000
Moonquakes?

[Anonymous No.12755015]

>>12754973
Keep in mind these things are bottom heavy, they're basically those water bottle's that kids used to flip.

[Anonymous No.12755022]

>>12754254
yeah but people were actually excited for cyberpunk

more like the watchdogs leigon of rockets

[Anonymous No.12755024]

>>12755008
>I’ve always been bothered by shows and movies set hundreds of years into the future but Spacesuit tech is still the same as toda
Why? It's not like physics changes over time.

[Anonymous No.12755025]

>>12755010
How fucking often is that poor moon being hit with meteorites in this day and age?

[Anonymous No.12755031]

>>12754494
>SIDEWAYS American flag
ugh

[Anonymous No.12755034]

>>12754987
thank you, I'm in a safe place again

[Anonymous No.12755053]

>>12755034
ITS may have been impossible, but it’s still kino.

[Anonymous No.12755060]

>>12754393
Are they not already? SLS isn't a human spaceflight program.

[Anonymous No.12755062]

>>12754644
I've never understood why people think that as long as NASA is getting X amount of funding it doesn't matter how that money is actually spent.
Like with cancelling SLS; sure, worst case scenario if SLS gets cancelled literally all SLS funding gets removed from NASA's budget. Big woop. All that funding is getting us is a shitty useless way too expensive rocket. It is WASTED MONEY. We would literally be better off with NASA budget minus all SLS funding rather than our current situation because at least if NASA wasn't funneling billions into a dead end there wouldn't be any attachment of actual payloads to that dead end.

[Anonymous No.12755072]

>>12755062
People make the assumption that if SLS was canned, the $$$$$ NASA gets for it will be free to use. But I think you’re right

[Anonymous No.12755075]

>>12755053
here, have a pic of classic-kino

[Anonymous No.12755083]

Dynetics is actually the worst option to fund because they have no intention of following through or self-funding. They're an obvious opportunist govt leech.

[Anonymous No.12755084]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTA0GTgFn5E

Another static fire attempt on going right now.

[Anonymous No.12755087]

>>12754760
>>12754807
What the fuck man

[Anonymous No.12755089]

>>12754185

[Anonymous No.12755093]

>>12755084

[Anonymous No.12755097]

>>12755087
>whining over a ladder
Is that all you got? Maybe grow a pair

[Anonymous No.12755102]

>>12755089
no wonder those massive factories look empty. it's because tgey have no employees lol

[Anonymous No.12755103]

>>12754800
Right, elevators are a dangerous and untrustworthy type of machine that is not feasible to use thousands of times a day in millions of buildings across the world including third world shitholes because they have a failure rate of slightly greater than zero. Fuck outta here.

[Anonymous No.12755107]

>>12755097
>https://youtu.be/nDnC2CHRNM4

[Anonymous No.12755108]

>>12755087
but think of all the great panoramic landscape pics they will be able to take while making their way down

[Anonymous No.12755111]

>>12754918
it's clearly named knunep you silly billy

[Anonymous No.12755115]

>>12754937
Yeah, which is especially offensive given the amount of wasted volume with that propellant tank arrangement.

[Anonymous No.12755122]

>>12755107
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0U6h5mvr9E

[Anonymous No.12755123]

>>12754993
politicians just do what they want, there's no deeper machinations behind it.

[Anonymous No.12755125]

>>12755103
>moving parts
Sorry sweaty, but the BO ladder has zero points of failure. Your elevator has dozens

[Anonymous No.12755129]

>>12755107
>the sound you make falling from the top of a Starship

[Anonymous No.12755134]

>>12755010
You wouldn't feel them if you were sitting on the Moon my dude
>>12755024
>physics is well understood and static
>also physics is the same as suit design and engineering
ohohoho

[Anonymous No.12755137]

>>12755107
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUL5w91dzbo

[Anonymous No.12755138]

>>12754395
>>12754351
Who do these pollsters even interview?

[Anonymous No.12755142]

>>12755097
You ever seen a spacesuit?

[Anonymous No.12755145]

>>12754351
there is no way the average american outside cities thinks NASA's top priority should be earth climate research. this poll is probably heavily biased towards urbanites.

[Anonymous No.12755148]

>>12754807
pic related but Blue Origin edition
>>12754808
honestly, the choice here is really fucking difficult
>National Team
Most conventional but insane pricing
>SpaceX
unconventional but best pricing and they're going to do it anyways.
>SNC
A mix of conventional and unconventional. Nice price but a bit small.

>>12754834
if you haven't already you should listen to this nearly 50 minute rant from an actual JPL employee on why the SLS sucks ass. Absolutely thorough a brutal takedown https://soundcloud.com/user-277042869/slsblogrecording-m4a/s-M5kUbZ4acGT

[Anonymous No.12755150]

>>12755093

[Anonymous No.12755154]

>>12755142
not this shit again

[Anonymous No.12755155]

>>12755125
knees are points of failure

[Anonymous No.12755156]

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/25/relativitys-reusable-terran-rocket-competitor-to-spacexs-falcon-9.html
>3D-printing rocket builder Relativity Space is working on Terran R, a fully reusable launch vehicle that would be near the capabilities of SpaceX’s Falcon 9 rocket.
proontchads get in here

[Anonymous No.12755159]

>>12755155
You cant break any bones falling from that height on the Moon. That's the beauty of low gravity. Falling from the top of Starship however...

[Anonymous No.12755160]

>>12755156
yawn

[Anonymous No.12755161]

>>12755154
>ywn be a sexy space suit model
why even live?

[Anonymous No.12755164]

>>12754918
now this thing is cute

>>12755089
this isn't exactly something to brag about

>>12755084
>>12755093
that was quick

[Anonymous No.12755166]

>>12754937
its only a lander but yeah

[Anonymous No.12755168]

>>12755107
https://youtu.be/HPjJCVylFBo

[Anonymous No.12755173]

>>12755156
I'll believe it when I see it. Not even sure if they have the engine tech to do this. Wish them luck, though.

[Anonymous No.12755175]

>>12755156
This is about as likely to come to fruition as that firefly alpha spaceplane thing

[Anonymous No.12755174]

>>12755156
>fully reusable
this is a lie

[Anonymous No.12755182]

>>12755125
why don't they just take the hoist from the front of a jeep and lower them down on the end of a cable, put a hook ring on the front of their suit?

[Anonymous No.12755183]

>NASA’s Mark Kirasich: All three HLS teams assembled low fidelity mockups during the last 10 months. SpaceX also assembled and demonstrated their Starship elevator concept “in a very short period of time."

[Anonymous No.12755184]

>>12754494
What is she packing downstairs to need to stand with her legs that far apart

[Anonymous No.12755185]

>>12754782
lol I meant like, first time I'm seeing it in person. I'm not retarded I knew they were doing the lunar lift

[Anonymous No.12755188]

>>12755138
well informed people walking down Hollywood Blvd

[Anonymous No.12755190]

holy crap, old space tranny absolutely annihilated

[Anonymous No.12755191]

>>12755183
There goes SpaceX, masters of half-assing.

[Anonymous No.12755195]

>>12755161
... he could probably clear that chair with one jump

[Anonymous No.12755196]

>>12755190
SEETHING oldspace tranny

[Anonymous No.12755200]

>>12755196
>Elon just takes credit for it
When did he ever do this?

[Anonymous No.12755201]

>>12755190
>>12755196
who?

[Anonymous No.12755205]

>>12755200
>When did he ever do this?
He didn't. That's a lot of what makes the way people respond to SpaceX so laughable.

[Anonymous No.12755212]

>>12755205
The only time Elon says “I did this” was when he takes the blame for the Falcon 1’s failed launches ironically

[Anonymous No.12755218]

>>12755190
>>12755196
GO
BACK
TO
TWITTER

WE
DON'T
CARE

[Anonymous No.12755221]

>>12755218
>>12755201
its just funny seeing angry oldspace stans

[Anonymous No.12755240]

>>12752729
based

[Anonymous No.12755250]

>>12755156
Wonder how they are going to modify the second stage to be reusable. Claimed new materials.

[Anonymous No.12755252]

>>12755221
>stans
Don't say this.
Who cares about these literal who's. There are two type of twitter posters on /sfg/. Those who post good and funny shit (they are identified by the use of twitter dark theme, content that is either interesting or funny, and the possession of many healthy (you)'s). And then there are those who visit twitter once, screenshot the first stupid comment they see, and then flood /sfg/ with it (They are identified by using light theme, the fact that they berate literal random nobodies, and the possession of unhealthy (you)'s where everyone is calling them gay)

[Anonymous No.12755254]

>>12755221
don't care, quit posting twitter rando #1298753

[Anonymous No.12755268]

>>12752702
Reminder that Raptor has made a total of 10 engine flights with a 100% successful ascent rate and a 87.5% (7/8) successful descent rate
>1 Engine Starhopper
>1 Engine Starhopper second hop
>SN5 1 engine hop, same engine landed
>SN6 1 engine hop, same engine landed
>SN8 - 3 Raptors, 2 fired for landing
>SN9 - 3 Raptors, 2 fired for landing, 1 failed

[Anonymous No.12755279]

>>12755268
yeah, it seems to perform very nicely when it's in the air. Not sure why short static fires are its bane. Is the issue just firing three of them against concrete?

[Anonymous No.12755283]

PUT THE METHANE IN THE BAG AND NOBODY GETS HURT

[Anonymous No.12755289]

>>12755268
Wtf, Raptor is barely hanging by a thread. Starhopper almost eviscerated. Raptor has this tendency to an hero itself multiple times - pretty much every static fire. Not to mention the fact that it still has issues with relighting in flight when it needs to on a dime, and the fact that the engine bells are still getting busted up for mundane shit like clinking into one another. I love starship and spacex but this fucking "it's a flight proven engine!" meme is very gay

[Anonymous No.12755292]

>>12755283
how come space-x is so unprofessional

[Anonymous No.12755301]

>>12755156
>terran
fuck urf
fuck t*rrans

[Anonymous No.12755305]

>>12755289
>>12755292
Samefage.

[Anonymous No.12755308]

>>12755289
It is a flight proven engine wtf are you on?

>>12755283
I could be your ANGLE or yuor DEVIL

[Anonymous No.12755311]

>>12755305
Why does this shit keep happening to me

[Anonymous No.12755313]

>>12755305
I do agree with the ULA Chad above me, but alas I am not he

[Anonymous No.12755314]

>>12755283
Here you go.

[Anonymous No.12755317]

>>12755311
>>12755313
The brothers from different mothers

[Anonymous No.12755319]

>>12755093

[Anonymous No.12755320]

>>12754918
It's kinda nice, but very kerbal

[Anonymous No.12755321]

>>12755190
Just get a very long ladder.

[Anonymous No.12755323]

LIVE
https://youtu.be/bdlfdBiSzKw

[Anonymous No.12755324]

>>12755311
God, I almost forgot how fucking nasty the Yatsubas are.

[Anonymous No.12755326]

>>12755311
>>12755313
Why does this shit fucking rhyme

[Anonymous No.12755328]

>>12755125
The astronaut is the moving part, and it's statistically most likely to fail

[Anonymous No.12755330]

>>12755328
Good point, let's send robots instead

[Anonymous No.12755336]

>>12755279
remember that the ones that got to flew already proved themselves in static fires

[Anonymous No.12755337]

>>12755159
You can break bones falling from one meter on Earth. That ladder is over ten meters tall. In 1/6th Earth gravity a ten meter fall is the equivalent of falling1.66 meters on Earth. Not huge of course but still dangerous, especially if you happen to fall in such a way that shears off any of the hoses or other pipes in the backpack.

[Anonymous No.12755341]

>>12755336
*got to fly
i am retarded and gay

[Anonymous No.12755342]

what the heck is up with this nosecone? Purportedly this is SN15.

[Anonymous No.12755346]

>>12755174
>>12755250
Maybe they meant recycleable lol. Grind it up and reprint, only takes 5 months and saves negative dollars.

[Anonymous No.12755347]

Well shoutout to my fellow rhyming ULA chad. I want to clarify my statement about Raptor though. Yeah it's hanging by a thread, but also it's a preliminary engine still in its infancy. It's more along than BE-4, but less along than something like the new RS-25E's. Once Musk starts mass producing Raptors they will get really good though [presumably]

[Anonymous No.12755349]

>>12755342
Different production method prototype probably. Everything is iterative and subject to change.

[Anonymous No.12755352]

>>12755250
It's frustrating that there's absolutely nothing concrete about the rocket's design. There's a single teaser image that shows a Falcon 9-like rocket... have fun recovering the second stage of that. The only info that exists is that CNBC article, which is the only tidbit about the rocket on their website.

[Anonymous No.12755355]

>>12755314
SNIIIIIIIIIIIIIFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

[Anonymous No.12755359]

>>12755355
>yfw she's an alive girl

[Anonymous No.12755360]

>>12755159
You can rip a space suit lightly grazing against a small rock.

[Anonymous No.12755361]

>>12754903
>>12754918

[Anonymous No.12755362]

https://investors.virgingalactic.com/news/news-details/2021/Virgin-Galactic-Announces-Fourth-Quarter-and-Full-Year-2020-Financial-Results/default.aspx
>Next Rocket-Powered Spaceflight Targeted to Occur in May
stay virgin, galactic

[Anonymous No.12755363]

>>12755268
>the 8.6% light speed lawn dart

[Anonymous No.12755366]

>>12755053
>spacex logo bigger than USA
This displeases me.

[Anonymous No.12755369]

>>12755361
YEEEES I always forget this little thing exists. I'm so happy every time I am reminded of it

[Anonymous No.12755372]

>>12755330
An elevator is just a robot that does a better job of moving vertically than a human

[Anonymous No.12755373]

>>12755366
The US government and their bureaucratic asses aren't building that. SpaceX can make their logo as big as they damn well please.

[Anonymous No.12755375]

>>12755347
SpaceX will move heaven and Earth to make Raptor and Starship. It will work eventually. Also notable is that they seem to have very conservative limits for their Raptor engines, mainly because Starship needs its engines to work flawlessly at the moment. Superheavy can lose like 5 engines and still be OK.

[Anonymous No.12755378]

>>12755361
landing gear is sexual

[Anonymous No.12755380]

>>12755347
I would trust Raptor as it exists right now to perform "normal" launch operations, like the boost phase of an orbital launch vehicle, no problem. It's really only showing actual issues when it tries to relight while being swung around during the flip maneuver. The static fire engine swaps are happening out of abundance of caution, SpaceX has plenty of Raptors at this point but only wants to fly using their best, because each prototype takes a couple months to construct and weeks more to actually fly once completed.

[Anonymous No.12755382]

>>12755289
how many successful BE-4 flights have there been?

[Anonymous No.12755383]

>>12755075
Gosh it looks so fucking heavy. I know they were trying their best to save mass anywhere they could, but modern fab techniques makes this look obese by comparison
>>12755053
Ehhhh ITS isn't dead. After 9m has been around for a while Musk will move on to 28-32+m Starship and it will essentially be ITS.

[Anonymous No.12755386]

>>12755378
I literally just realized those are landing gear and not a weird museum mounting structure, neat

[Anonymous No.12755387]

>>12755382
I assume you're asking seriously and not being sarcastic? They have fucked up even the test fires lol. Essentially it is pure shit and as it stands right now not even ULA has a finished engine delivered to them from BO for Vulcan yet (and that rocket is supposed to fly soon)

[Anonymous No.12755388]

>>12755383
Reminder that ITS was just 3 meters wider than Starship, and Elon has already stated that when they do decide it's time for a bigger vehicle they're jumping right to 18 meters

[Anonymous No.12755389]

>>12755355

[Anonymous No.12755393]

>>12755388
>Starship 2 will be almost 20 feet wider than the ITS design
holy moly

[Anonymous No.12755400]

>>12755386
Yeah it has cute little pop out sleds. Have you seen the way it was supposed to fly? This animation makes me laugh every time. Aside from being hilarious, the way they animate the bomb drop is such ghetto animation
https://youtu.be/Fcw8ySwrSKs

[Anonymous No.12755404]

>>12755323
ROGS
O
G
S

[Anonymous No.12755407]

>>12755387
BE-4 had turbopump issues back in August, which has delayed the arrival of the first for Vulcan so much that they have yet to receive flight-level engines.

[Anonymous No.12755409]

>>12755387
>ULA is going to be reduced to begging SpaceX for Raptors

[Anonymous No.12755410]

>>12755404
rocks unearthed by skycrane

[Anonymous No.12755411]

>>12755410
>Dinosaur fossils

[Anonymous No.12755412]

>>12755361
Cute MiGger.

[Anonymous No.12755415]

>>12755400
the animation could have been from 1980 or last year. you can never tell with russia.

[Anonymous No.12755417]

>>12755346
>>12755352
Relativity has a listed launch price less than Firefly and can lift more. 12 vs 15 and 1250 vs 1000 kg Guess this explains why Relativity has way more signed contracts. Might come down to the first to reuse to survive.

[Anonymous No.12755418]

>>12755410
now talking about this one. They're calling it "the harbor seal".

[Anonymous No.12755419]

>>12755409
3 Raptors costs $6 Million, produced 40% more thrust, and has 20 seconds better ISP than 2 BE-4's, which cost $16 Million (Don't quote me on that).

[Anonymous No.12755420]

>>12755352
Make the whole thing out of titanium and fish it out of the ocean?

[Anonymous No.12755423]

>>12755410
I know the USA rovers are fucking expensive and complicated as all get out... but do they even posses the capability to flip rocks? I know this sounds like a dumb question, but to my knowledge all of their manipulator arms are tipped with expensive cameras and stuff and I think tipping a rock over might break something unless there was a dedicated manipulator arm. Do we seriously have to wait until human get to Mars just to have the ability to flip rocks over to see their underbelly, and to dig down half a meter?

[Anonymous No.12755424]

>>12755320
very kerbal

[Anonymous No.12755425]

>>12755423
The arm has a drill that but they are unlikely to risk their hardware in trying to tip over any rocks

[Anonymous No.12755426]

mmm
roggets

[Anonymous No.12755427]

>>12755337
Yeah, I'd be more worried about the suit than my knees

[Anonymous No.12755433]

>>12755418
Why do their pictures look worse then the raws? Also cool discussion about stereo camera images

[Anonymous No.12755435]

>>12755424
NASA shoudl've gone with Big Gemini launched on a Saturn IB in the 70's and 80's, then switched to pic related in the 90's.

[Anonymous No.12755436]

https://youtu.be/sTA0GTgFn5E
Static fire soon

[Anonymous No.12755441]

>>12755433
Multiple cameras take pics of the same things at different zoom and resolution. The first pic you quoted was zoomed in from a wide angle camera. The second pic you posted most likely was taken from a higher resolution camera that has a smaller FOV

[Anonymous No.12755447]

>>12755423
My thought process went from “fucking idiot, stupid question” to “huh he has a point”.
I don’t think we have been able to flip rocks not that I think about it. I can’t really think of any scientific value? Like there aren’t bugs hiding out underneath, I don’t think. But then again those rocks have probably been sitting there for billions of years untouched and they shield the regolith underneath from UV damage and stuff. What if there were colonies living under every stone on the surface and we just didn’t know because we never bothered to flip anything kek

[Anonymous No.12755445]

>>12755436
It's not even venting yet mang

[Anonymous No.12755449]

>>12755433
because I'm taking screencaps from a 720p stream with youtube compression

[Anonymous No.12755454]

>>12755433
man, what I would give to be able to just walk over and lift up that rock out of the dust... and I'm not even a geologist

[Anonymous No.12755455]

>>12755360
maybe the apollo suits. arent artemis suits better?

[Anonymous No.12755457]

>>12755436
Define “soon” anon. I think you’re running on an oldspace clock

[Anonymous No.12755458]

>>12755449
>>12755433
fuck me I forgot the bigger reason: the stuff I'm posting is all from a single wide-angle high-res image. They were zooming very far into various part of it to look at features like >>12755418 >>12755410 >>12755404. Obviously doing that isn't going to have as good quality as using a zoom lens to focus specifically on a spot.

[Anonymous No.12755463]

>>12755447
The problem is flipping rocks is you need a heavy base to flip anything, which is counter to your goals. I'm sure JLP could figure something out though

[Anonymous No.12755466]

>>12755418
are you watching a stream?

[Anonymous No.12755469]

>>12755466
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdlfdBiSzKw

[Anonymous No.12755474]

rogs

[Anonymous No.12755475]

>>12755433
This looks pretty damn bright considering the distance from the sun.

[Anonymous No.12755479]

>>12755474
Oh gob is that rogs?
I'm gunna fuggin coooooom!

[Anonymous No.12755480]

>>12755475
the sun is fucking bright. but also your eyes are pretty good

[Anonymous No.12755482]

I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH THESE ROCKS

[Anonymous No.12755490]

>>12755482
Yeah me too it’s triggering my rock autism
t. geologyfag

[Anonymous No.12755491]

>NASA uses magnets to keep these color palettes clean
Fucking neat. I wonder if this will ever get used for spacesuit cleaning.

[Anonymous No.12755495]

>>12755388
it will be Thicc-Ship

[Anonymous No.12755496]

>>12755482
Mars worms

[Anonymous No.12755497]

>>12755482
what the FUCK are those grooves

[Anonymous No.12755506]

>>12755497
My guess (no real geology education) is igneous rock that's been eroded over the millenia by wind.

[Anonymous No.12755508]

>>12755482
Def lava, looks exactly like the rocks i've seen outside flagstaff, bordering the little colorado

[Anonymous No.12755509]

>>12755482
martian pumice?

[Anonymous No.12755510]

>>12755008
stargate isn't in the future tho

[Anonymous No.12755516]

>>12755497
Those are rover wheels

[Anonymous No.12755527]

Surprisingly good questions so far

[Anonymous No.12755534]

>>12755008
The Expanse has pretty cool suits desu

[Anonymous No.12755540]

>>12755527
The Isaac Arthur fans aren't back from school yet.

[Anonymous No.12755544]

>>12755445
>>12755457
Today. Should happen today

[Anonymous No.12755547]

Now unto real spaceflight with Starship

[Anonymous No.12755553]

>>12755482
it's pretty cool how it landed right in the middle of a bunch of interesting stuff

[Anonymous No.12755556]

>>12755491
wonder if they could put a strong magnet on an arm and use it to clean lenses and such

[Anonymous No.12755567]

Remember if any signs of life are found on Mars it automatically means ban on all human spaceflight.

Don't cheer for something to happen without understanding the implications.

[Anonymous No.12755571]

>>12755567
I'm 98% sure we won't find life on Mars until after humans land. We may find fossils, but not living beings. Not now anyhow

[Anonymous No.12755573]

>>12754334
Beautiful. Colonization fags utterly BTFO by Democracy.

[Anonymous No.12755576]

>>12755567
why? Contamination concerns? If that's the case I kinda doubt that human microbes could survive on another world.

[Anonymous No.12755581]

>>12755567
Kill all space vegans after due process.

[Anonymous No.12755583]

>>12755156
Guarrentee they can’t actually pront the necessary strengths and mass fractions

[Anonymous No.12755584]

Sam Hyde's spell is taking a long time to cast, but the fucker is effectively erasing SN10 from existence!

[Anonymous No.12755585]

>>12755576
>He doesn’t know

[Anonymous No.12755586]

Does space flight cause people to become bumbling morons?
First urf, now rogs

[Anonymous No.12755588]

>>12755576
Earth microbes can survive on the exterior of the ISS.

[Anonymous No.12755589]

>>12755576
>"we have no right to destroy native life with our presence - look what we did on Earth"

[Anonymous No.12755594]

>>12755586
Monkey brain

[Anonymous No.12755595]

>>12755586
>mmmm, urf rogs

[Anonymous No.12755597]

>>12755576
They might survive and that is enough. We can't allow ourselves to repeat history and deepest darkest days of colonialism and the associated genocide sadly surpassed only the suffering of the Chosen People in the Holocaust. I feel eternally guilty for these crimes and believe we humans have no right to exist for all of our scientifically and historically provable sins. We must change.

[Anonymous No.12755604]

>>12755586
>samble cash

[Anonymous No.12755605]

>NASA still hasn’t sent a brick machine with a robot for shovelling dust to fill it and stack the bricks

Smh

[Anonymous No.12755612]

>>12755588
surviving under the van allen belt isn't a big deal. Surviving ambient radiation on the surface of Mars over the millions of years is a completely different thing.

[Anonymous No.12755613]

>>12755268
>'firefly' starship
Does this thing have a real, descriptive name so I can actually look it up without being bombarded with overrated soience fiction?

[Anonymous No.12755617]

>>12755612
Earth microbes can survive underground, too. They can even eat radiation.

[Anonymous No.12755625]

https://spacenews.com/stoke-raises-seed-round-to-work-on-fully-reusable-rockets/
Another startup promising full reusability. I think someone here mentioned these guys a couple months ago and sounded quite excited.

[Anonymous No.12755633]

>>12755625
What have they done before?

[Anonymous No.12755639]

>>12755589
Genocide is always an option.

[Anonymous No.12755652]

>>12755567
No, just that exact area and only until we study whatever is crawling there as much as biologically, chemically and physically possible. After that the poor things can die under our boots or from rocket engine exhausts as opposed to slowly being killed by radiation. Or, worse yet, futilely reproducing until the sun engulfs the inner planets.

[Anonymous No.12755663]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j67dSbwHVlg

[Anonymous No.12755664]

>>12755419
>3 Raptors costs $6 Million, produced 40% more thrust, and has 20 seconds better ISP than 2 BE-4's, which cost $16 Million
t. anon

[Anonymous No.12755668]

>>12755664
He said don’t quote him...

[Anonymous No.12755669]

>>12755420
Titanium will burn if exposed to reentry plasma. It's heat resistant and corrosion resistant at low temperatures but 1000 degree air will eat that shit up for breakfast.

[Anonymous No.12755671]

>>12755652
The science side is just a veil. Never going to happen the idyllic way you describe it, that's not how humans bureaucracies and ideologies work.
Just look around PP circles and the way they speak.

[Anonymous No.12755676]

>https://youtu.be/sTA0GTgFn5E
>https://youtu.be/sTA0GTgFn5E
>https://youtu.be/sTA0GTgFn5E
Get in here boys static fire

[Anonymous No.12755677]

>>12755671
It will happen this way. The only difference will be whether those are US boots and rockets or chinese. I don't know what is "PP circles" and my gut feeling tells me it's politics aka offtopic shit.

[Anonymous No.12755684]

>>12755671
>PP circle
Gross. What is that?

[Anonymous No.12755685]

>>12754547
answer

[Anonymous No.12755686]

>>12755677
Planetary protection is literally politics. And it's gross, yes. Don't close your eyes too much lest you get a surprise buttsex.

[Anonymous No.12755689]

>>12755685
It depends on the time of day, and location. Just like how earth gets red skies sometimes at certain times.

[Anonymous No.12755695]

>>12755686
I'm not gay and don't hang out around gay rapists so I'll be fine. But you take care out there.

[Anonymous No.12755700]

>>12755676
I hope raptor will get more reliable
how often they needed to switch out raptors ? I've lost count..

[Anonymous No.12755701]

>>12755668
>Raptor costs $2 Million
https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1179107539352313856?lang=en
>Raptor produces 2200 kN of thrust
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Raptor
>Sea Level Raptor has a 350 sec isp in a vacuum
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Raptor
>BE-4 makes 2400 kN of thrust
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Raptor
BE4 isp and cost are unknown at this moment.
>3X Raptor makes 6600 kn of thrust. 2 BE-4 makes 4800 kN thrust. This is a 37.5% improvement.

[Anonymous No.12755702]

>>12755676
Also NSF
https://youtu.be/-OYh9C4Wg-I

[Anonymous No.12755708]

>>12754334
>>12754300
Even when Apollo was going no one gave a shit about human exploration. Everyone lost interest by the third launch

[Anonymous No.12755709]

>>12754334
>Monitoring the Earth's climate system

[Anonymous No.12755712]

>>12755482
those aren't rocks. those are skulls

[Anonymous No.12755714]

>>12755700
There can't be Starship without reliable Raptors, so it better get reliable or it's done.

[Anonymous No.12755715]

>>12754444
NASA does planetary science, including the Earth, NOAA does mainly ocean Atmo. They're both very multidisciplinary.

[Anonymous No.12755716]

>>12755701
Also we have no idea how much Starships cost to build, but they are:
>”SpaceX’s stretch goal is to build one to two Starships a week, this year, and to pare back construction costs to as low as $5 million each.”
So take from that what you want
>https://www.google.com/amp/s/arstechnica.com/science/2020/03/inside-elon-musks-plan-to-build-one-starship-a-week-and-settle-mars/%3famp=1

[Anonymous No.12755717]

>>12755342
they will put a docking port on it

[Anonymous No.12755720]

Imagine if Boca Chica SpaceX wasn't a thing. We might get an update on SLS once a year and that's it.

[Anonymous No.12755722]

>>12755482
Some kind of igneous rock, maybe it would be easy to make big bubbles under low-g as well

[Anonymous No.12755723]

>>12755676
>>12755702
>Wobbly cam or vaseline cam
Save us SpaceX, give us official streams.

[Anonymous No.12755725]

>>12755573
Good thing democracy is a scam.

[Anonymous No.12755728]

>>12755424
Shame it got cancelled, its final design was pretty neat.

[Anonymous No.12755727]

>>12755482
Pumice. Mars had its volcanic period.

[Anonymous No.12755731]

>>12755723
I reject your binary choice and substitute my own:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCbgoqMcirI

[Anonymous No.12755732]

T-10 min to static fire

[Anonymous No.12755734]

>>12755731
That one artifacts.

[Anonymous No.12755735]

>>12755732
SIREN

HAPPENING

[Anonymous No.12755736]

>>12755731
>I reject your binary
Seethe, cope and dilate.

[Anonymous No.12755743]

there will be no static fire

[Anonymous No.12755745]

>>12754353
I am very afraid people like in this pic are our great filter that hinder us sooner or later from spreading in the galaxy.

[Anonymous No.12755748]

It's gonna blow up.

[Anonymous No.12755753]

>>12755734
No commentary, decent quality most of the time, actual sound. I'm sticking with it.

>>12755736
Do a flip.

[Anonymous No.12755755]

ENGINE FAILURE

[Anonymous No.12755759]

>>12755753

[Anonymous No.12755765]

>>12755755
YOU'RE a failure

[Anonymous No.12755766]

>>12755753
are you a woman?

[Anonymous No.12755767]

>>12755613
Here’s some sources with info
>Length = 750 metres
>Dry mass = 2,200 tonnes. This breaks down as follows:
>radiators (1,600 t);
>shielding (160 t);
>payload (150 t);
>miscellaneous structure (130 t);
>magnetic nozzle/energy recapture (110 t)
>reactors (50 t).
>Wet mass = 23,550 tonnes.
>Dry mass (2,200 t);
>Fuel tanks plus pressurant (350 t); and
>Fuel (21,000 t).
>Exhaust velocity : 12,000 km/s (= 4% of the speed of light)
>Specific Impulse (Isp): 1,200,000 seconds
>Thrust = 600 kN
SOURCE: https://i4is.org/reaching-the-stars-in-a-century-using-fusion-propulsion/
>”The spacecraft could be constructed in Earth orbit, or alternatively at one of the Earth-Moon Lagrange points. The dry mass could be launched into Low Earth Orbit (LEO) on 17 of NASA’s planned Space Launch System rockets (Block 2) or 20 Saturn Vs, so this aspect of the project is feasible with proven or near future launch capabilities.
>https://i4is.org/reaching-the-stars-in-a-century-using-fusion-propulsion/
>”Pure deuterium fusion was selected for Firefly because it is available in sea water at about 150 ppm as "heavy water", and is already commonly extracted in facilities all over the world for service in CANDU type fission reactors. If hydrogen becomes a common fuel source here on Earth, deuterium could readily be extracted even more cheaply as a byproduct of bulk hydrogen production plants.”
>” This contrasts with more exotic fuel choices commonly proposed for fusion starships, particularly deuterium-helium3 (DHe3). The DHe3 reaction is fundamentally more desirable because its first-level reactions are all aneutronic; meaning that they produce only charged particles, with no damaging neutrons. The problem is that He3 is unavailable on Earth except in microscopic quantities, so it would have to be mined from the moon or the gas giant planets.”
>https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.seeker.com/amphtml/firefly-starship-to-blaze-a-trail-to-alpha-centauri-1769538313.html

[Anonymous No.12755768]

>>12755745
Be more worried about people like this.

[Anonymous No.12755770]

>>12755731
huh, drone was there checking things out. Or maybe just getting a cool shot. Probably the latter.

[Anonymous No.12755774]

this engine switch was really fast, wow

[Anonymous No.12755777]

>NOOO YOU CANT JUST SWAP OUT ENGINES ON YOUR ROCKET AND STATIC FIRE ON THE SAME DAY

[Anonymous No.12755778]

honk

[Anonymous No.12755780]

HOOOONK

[Anonymous No.12755781]

WOW LOOKED PERFECT

[Anonymous No.12755782]

STARSHIP FLIGHT ON FRIDAY BOYS

ITS HAPPENING

[Anonymous No.12755783]

>>12755463
Fuck JPL I can figure something out. If you have a manipulator arm you can include bucket bins on your rover and use the rover scoop to shovel soil into the bins for additional mass in situ.

[Anonymous No.12755784]

>>12755766
No, because you're bringing twatterspeak and/or political shit into /sfg/.

[Anonymous No.12755786]

>SLS static fire fails
>6 months to analyze and correct issues and retest

>Starship static fire fails
>Swap engine and retest within 24 hours

[Anonymous No.12755787]

>>12752702
Oh god why are the comments on LabPadre streams so awful it’s just a bunch of people saying “BOOM”

[Anonymous No.12755793]

>>12755787
You don't read youtube or twitch comments. That's like trying to get a brain tumor.

[Anonymous No.12755794]

>>12755782
sorry, stan, raptor blew a gasket yet again

[Anonymous No.12755795]

>>12755786
NO YOU CANT DO THAT ITS SUPPOSED TO BE OVER

[Anonymous No.12755797]

>>12755794
Gotta stop feeding that boy Taco Bell.

[Anonymous No.12755805]

>>12755731
lmoa holy shit. I think this static fire pulverized some concrete. Could see it raining down afterwards and could hear it hitting the metal containers. Really loud actually.

[Anonymous No.12755807]

>>12755805
>That's not concrete

[Anonymous No.12755808]

>Hey I wonder whats happening with sls...
>https://www.space.com/nasa-delays-sls-megarocket-2nd-green-run-engine-test
>NASA said it is "reviewing the performance of a valve on the core stage" of the SLS, forcing the agency to delay the second "hot fire" test. A new date for the hot fire has not yet been announced.
Are you fucking kidding me...

[Anonymous No.12755809]

>>12755807
>it's the remains of Bezos employees
what the FUCK elon!?

[Anonymous No.12755812]

>>12755768
covert

[Anonymous No.12755813]

>>12755808
>valves & more

[Anonymous No.12755816]

>>12755805
Yeah, I have heard the clang too.

[Anonymous No.12755817]

>>12755784
otherwise yes

[Anonymous No.12755821]

have they moved the fucking rover already

[Anonymous No.12755825]

>>12755805
All because they are too cheap to build a trench

[Anonymous No.12755827]

>>12755821
No

[Anonymous No.12755829]

>>12755821
they wont for a few months. they're doing checkouts

[Anonymous No.12755834]

>>12755805
Embarrassing

[Anonymous No.12755835]

>>12755829
when do they fly the copter?
>>12755825
Those stands are only meant for sub-orbital launches using a few raptors, so I get why they didn't go all-out with these pads. I wonder why kind of system the orbital stand will use.

[Anonymous No.12755836]

>>12755825
>a trench
>at a beach

[Anonymous No.12755837]

>>12755786
BUT.. BUT S-SPACE IS HARD!

[Anonymous No.12755838]

>>12755821
If they moved too much they wouldn’t be able to collect a salary for operating it for the next 20 years

[Anonymous No.12755839]

>>12755829
shieet what takes them so long, what takes so long to check

[Anonymous No.12755842]

>>12755825
Not only this is retarded considering the beach as the other anon has said, it's moot because of the oil rigs anyway.

[Anonymous No.12755843]

>>12755835
>>12755836
Doesn’t need to be anything fancy, just needs to not shower concrete on itself every launch

[Anonymous No.12755844]

>>12755839
i think they give conservative tinelines, it may well be earlier

[Anonymous No.12755846]

>>12755843
I just don't get this reusable pad meme

[Anonymous No.12755847]

>>12755843
If it was important enough SpaceX would do it

[Anonymous No.12755849]

>>12755825
no need to build full out launch infrastructure when they want to launch from sea regularly
I still wonder whats happening to the launch pad at cape canaveral

[Anonymous No.12755850]

>>12755685
There have always been photos of blue sunsets, even from early landers. But you have to realize that a fuck load of photos i see of Mars from NASA have been white balanced, i.e. “what would this look like if this were on Earth, lel let’s just run this photo through that algorithm and then publish it!”. It’s extremely misleading. In reality Mars is very fucking orange and bland and the “deep blue” sunset sky is barely blue save for the horizon near the sun

[Anonymous No.12755854]

>>12755808
You can't expect to just swap out engines and retest the next day

[Anonymous No.12755856]

>>12755825
Based answer; muskrats are screaming at their monitors trying to tell you why you are wrong lmao

[Anonymous No.12755858]

>>12755849
Clearly it'll be for launching a NASA payload.

[Anonymous No.12755860]

>>12755825
It's all so embarrassing

[Anonymous No.12755865]

>>12755856
>Based answer; muskrats are screaming at their monitors trying to tell you why you are wrong lmao

[Anonymous No.12755867]

>>12755856

[Anonymous No.12755868]

>Why yes, I do swap out rocket engines and retest the next day. How could you tell?

[Anonymous No.12755872]

That was a loud freaking honk

[Anonymous No.12755873]

>>12755865
>>12755867
you mad bro?

[Anonymous No.12755877]

>>12755849
You don’t need “full launch structure”, lol Whatever that means
You just need a trench with concrete walls going down to the water level

[Anonymous No.12755878]

>>12755856
I agree about the trench but who the fuck still uses semicolons

[Anonymous No.12755880]

>>12755865
Seethe, one person questions Elon Musk and you all go running to your keyboards with tears in your eyes

[Anonymous No.12755891]

>>12755878
programmers

[Anonymous No.12755893]

I love my space family. When will we get a /sfg/ booth at IAC?

[Anonymous No.12755896]

>>12755891
So literal autists.

[Anonymous No.12755897]

>>12755878
people who haven't made an em dash macro yet—

[Anonymous No.12755902]

>>12755893
>Constant spaghetti cleanup

[Anonymous No.12755913]

>>12755893
Does the general have an irc

[Anonymous No.12755919]

>>12755913
Why? We literally always have a thread up on the board. The only thing a channel would do is promote attention whoring.

[Anonymous No.12755921]

>>12755913
Big Jim setup an Xbox Live groupchat

[Anonymous No.12755928]

>>12755913
Fuck you

[Anonymous No.12755933]

>>12755913
Fuck off dumb tranny

[Anonymous No.12755940]

>>12755893
I’m trying to get a job at Boca Chica as a cool I’ll keep you posted

[Anonymous No.12755942]

>>12755913
check the discord

[Anonymous No.12755947]

>>12755913
yeah it's linked in the pastebin

[Anonymous No.12755949]

>>12755676
>>12755702
Good static fire. Hop is very close
>>12755700
Thats the point of pushing them like this. They're testing durability because they are meant for reusability.

[Anonymous No.12755960]

Why does half the time it seems like Elon's the only one that knows what he's doing and the other half seems like he doesnt

[Anonymous No.12755966]

If there is one thing SpaceX should be testing is how a static fire looks when it’s being fired into gravel for preps on landing on the moon/mars

[Anonymous No.12755973]

>>12755966
Firing at concrete is a good preliminary step to that.

[Anonymous No.12755975]

>>12755960
Because Musk isn't an average person, but uses conventional words to make people understand but at the same time draws his knowledge from deep understanding of what he's talking about, so you get left behind once anything concrete is talked about.

[Anonymous No.12755981]

>>12755625
Interesting. Sounds like they're aiming for a starship-like solution. But they're being very tight-lipped on what this would actually look like.
Pic related is interesting, though. An engine with a nozzle that doubles as a heat shield and that possesses "not previously considered" novel geometry.
>He said the vehicle will be sized based on market demand in order to hit its desired launch cadence.
Is it even possible to make a smaller rocket with a reusable 2nd stage? I mean, the F9 is pretty huge but the resusable 2nd stage project was scrapped due to the payload loesses being unacceptable.

[Anonymous No.12755985]

OH NO MY IMAGERINOS

[Anonymous No.12755991]

>>12755975
why do you worship him

[Anonymous No.12755994]

>>12755973
Concrete will throw big chunks
Little different

[Anonymous No.12756004]

>>12755975
Bro, cringe

[Anonymous No.12756006]

>>12755975
this is the most pathetic thing i've ever seen someone write about a person that does not and never will know of their existence

[Anonymous No.12756016]

>>12755975
Okay, this is epic

[Anonymous No.12756020]

>>12755994
Once it can handle an odd larger chunk from time to time it's a good time to move to trying with small chunks much more frequently. Also good for when there is a large chunk buried under many small ones.

[Anonymous No.12756029]

Why does every spaceflight podcaster sound like a fucking fag

[Anonymous No.12756036]

>>12756029
Bigot

[Anonymous No.12756044]

>>12756029
Just watch Robert Zubrin videos they’re all over YouTube. He has a squeaky scheming voice but he’s a great speaker

[Anonymous No.12756046]

>>12756029
Space is a desolate wasteland and only rubes can be convinced that we can colonize it.

[Anonymous No.12756048]

>>12755991
>>12756004
>>12756006
Do you have a degree in Physics? Economics? 20 year work experience with the world's leading rocket engineering team? How many companies have you started?

Is it really hard to understand that people maybe, JUST MAYBE, lacking in knowledge? Jesus Christ.

[Anonymous No.12756050]

>>12756048
It’s just shitposters man don’t Chris-Chan us

[Anonymous No.12756054]

>>12756048
ok, i fell for bait. i'm sorry everyone. i've let you all down

[Anonymous No.12756060]

>>12756029
Because most are techfags who have way too much time and money available to them. Aka reddit.
>>12756036
Stfu nigger noone cares

[Anonymous No.12756071]

Musk under SEC investigation AGAIN for dogeposting. LMAO

[Anonymous No.12756074]

>>12756048
theres more people with such stats but only he is worshipped

[Anonymous No.12756081]

>>12756071
why are the SEC investigating literally anything to do with crypto? they have no authority over the blockchain

[Anonymous No.12756083]

Anyone have a pic of that retard jew who smugly posts "haha you'll never leave this planet" with some chinese painting?

[Anonymous No.12756085]

>>12756071
>memecoins affect the national banking system in any way
SEC has no power here

[Anonymous No.12756089]

>>12756074
So you're just jealous? Is that it? LMAO

[Anonymous No.12756095]

>>12756074
Not that dude but it's not a coincidence, make the most progress seen in spaceflight in 50 years and you to will be worshipped

[Anonymous No.12756101]

>>12756071
crypto are free and independent currencies and governments shouldnt regulate them

[Anonymous No.12756119]

>>12756071
>image limit reached
fuck, whatever, fuck the SEC

[Anonymous No.12756127]

>>12756074
>stop liking the autist RIGHT NOW!
lol no

[Anonymous No.12756145]

Europa has a vast underground ocean that could harbor life and needs to be explored

[Anonymous No.12756154]

>>12756145
good luck digging through tens of kilometers of ice

[Anonymous No.12756158]

>>12756081
>>12756085
>>12756101
Crypto is a commodity like any other and the SEC has explicit, black letter law that grants them regulatory power.

[Anonymous No.12756159]

>>12756145
Yeah although in reality it's probably a barren wasteland of ice sludge that is barely water. Water would be cool though. If there are a ton of critters there they are probably sentient and listening to this 24/7
https://youtu.be/7neipvZ_H0c

[Anonymous No.12756165]

>>12756159
Weird, why did you link the planetary anthem of Titan?

[Anonymous No.12756166]

>>12756165
BRAAAAPPPPP

[Anonymous No.12756169]

>>12756119
Image limit? someone make new thread

[Anonymous No.12756171]

>>12756159
they'll listen to this
https://youtu.be/tkzY_VwNIek

[Anonymous No.12756178]

>>12756171
Fuck, Ocean Man is actually really good. I love Ween

[Anonymous No.12756181]

>>12756159
It's definitely barren but I have no idea wtf you are talking about with ice sludge, it's definitely liquid and a shitton of it. The biggest problem with Europa is it's so fucking deep that it probably doesn't have good mineralization or energetic environments. Enceladus is much better.

[Anonymous No.12756184]

>>12756169
Shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.12756187]

>>12756169
I know right?

[Anonymous No.12756192]

>>12756184
>laughingvonbraun.jpg
We are riding this out to page 10

[Anonymous No.12756194]

>>12756154
its only 25 km of ice, a heat probe will penetrate in no time.
>>12756159
Europa is definitely not a wasteland certainly compared to mars and moon, and there is definitely an ocean

[Anonymous No.12756196]

>>12756181
>inceladus
ngmi

[Anonymous No.12756200]

>>12756196
Euros fear the incel revolution

[Anonymous No.12756202]

You know who pisses me off? That faggot who goes "ROCKETS ARE ARCHAIC AND ANCIENT TECHNOLOGY" while either posting a smug image or some chinese firework painting. Sometimes he'll drone about "physics-based concepts available now that were not available to Newton and ancient Chinese court sorcerers" or some shit, as if the Saturn V used gunpowder and not, oh I don't know, KEROLOX? If he were sperging about the Space Shuttle and SLS using those SRBs, which are rightfully called archaic, he'd be right, but this motherfucker actually thinks turbopumped explosions are archaic.

If you're here, faggot, consider yourself the reason I get buff enough for spaceflight, because my hatred for you will probably motivate me to get more /fit/.

[Anonymous No.12756204]

>>12756181
would we even have the ability to drill that far down?

Actually, I remember someone here pitching an idea where nuclear power of some sort is used to melt down to the liquid part of the planet.

[Anonymous No.12756207]

>>12756196
kek
>>12756181
Uninformed anon. Our ice worlds might not even have oceans.

[Anonymous No.12756214]

>>12756204
>I remember someone here pitching an idea where nuclear power...is used to melt down
That doesn't come from /sfg/. That's like, the ONLY real way you can do it. NASA has been proposing that since I think the 70's or 80's? Probably comes from Sagan or someone close to him

[Anonymous No.12756216]

>>12756181
>Enceladus is much better.
Inceladus is as barren as it's namesake.

[Anonymous No.12756230]

>>12756216
it takes fucking years on top of years to get to get there. we threw away our only saturn orbiter because
>muh contamination

[Anonymous No.12756234]

>>12756216
>>12756207
Seethe, inceladus's salty brine is the most fertile material off of Earth in our solar system.

[Anonymous No.12756237]

>>12756234
>tfw NASA found the brine drawer

[Anonymous No.12756245]

>>12756234
uhh.....brine kills life

[Anonymous No.12756248]

>>12756234
That might be true if it weren't constantly ejecting it's salty juices everywhere.

[Anonymous No.12756250]

>>12756248
lewd

[Anonymous No.12756253]

>>12756248
STALE
BRINY
SEA

[Anonymous No.12756258]

>>12756230
nasa basedboys destroyed the orbiter, I personally would seed the moon with microbial life as it would likely survive in the ocean

[Anonymous No.12756261]

>>12756258
and see how it evolves there

[Anonymous No.12756267]

New bread
>>12756264
>>12756264
>>12756264
>>12756264

[Anonymous No.12756268]

>>12756248
There's way more where that came from, the emissions are just a sign of vigorous activity under the surface.
>>12756245
Those briny depths are absolutely thick with a sticky biofilm of chemosynthetic extremophiles and there is nothing you can do about it.

[Anonymous No.12756269]

>>12756258
tfw life will never spread in the universe bc a bunch of of (((soientists))) killed any chance for earth life to escape

[Anonymous No.12756289]

>>12756258
after our civilization rises and falls over thousands of years, distant humans finally return to saturn, discovering massive blimp-like creatures, freely floating on the topmost winds. dna sequencing reveals them to be earth microbial descendents, directly seeded by cassini

[Anonymous No.12756302]

>>12756289
imagine if we go there and discover such being right now

[Anonymous No.12756373]

>>12755701
>BE4 costs are unknown at this moment
Considering BOs horrid bidding prices, and the fact that they have done nothing but lose money for years, I'm going to go ahead and say we can expect something in the 8-figure range.

[Anonymous No.12756385]

>>12755787
Simple minds, simple pleasures.

[Anonymous No.12756395]

>>12756258
Surveyor 3 started it

[Anonymous No.12756411]

>>12755872
You need to pause your gonzo porn in the background so you don't hear audio from it over other stuff.

[Anonymous No.12756421]

>>12756411
mature

[Anonymous No.12756545]

>724 replies
holy fucks

[Anonymous No.12756579]

>>12756545
Space is fun.

[Anonymous No.12756709]

>>12756545
Gas the psychs, Space board now!!!

[Anonymous No.12756906]

>>12755981
Satillites are getting smaller, perhaps they think they can get the price low enough to pay for resuse losses.

[Anonymous No.12757025]

>>12756906
It seems like the next big step after getting launch costs down is getting hardware costs down.

Billion dollar satellites made sense when launches were a billion dollars anyway. Now there's way more mass budget, and we need cheaper designs in higher numbers.

[Anonymous No.12757030]

bump

[Anonymous No.12757039]

>>12757030
r u avin a laff

[Anonymous No.12757046]

>>12755767
whats the propulsion system? and is that crewed?