/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.12735531]

Red pill me on covid-19.

[Anonymous No.12735555]

A devastating plague. Reminder that 70% of asymptomatic patients show severe lung damage in radiographies.

[Anonymous No.12735562]

>>12735555
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/4237874001
>Chest X-rays of asymptomatic patients – those infected but without symptoms – exhibited a severe chest X-ray 70%-80% of the time, but those with COVID-19 symptoms had one every time, she also added.

[Anonymous No.12735568]

>>12735555
>Reminder that 70% of asymptomatic patients show severe lung damage in radiographies
Reminder that 99% of those patients are obese and already had lung damage from being fatties.

[Anonymous No.12735584]

>>12735562
Reminder that that claim was blasted by MSM, but its original source is literally a tweet, without evidence.
https://twitter.com/BKendallMD/status/1346030479112331265

[Anonymous No.12735586]

>>12735562
>Instagram
Do you have an actual paper you would like to reference?

[Anonymous No.12735609]

>>12735531
I don't follow the logic of the types of conspiracies in OP's pic. What do pharma companies have to gain from creating a vaccine that kills people? 20-30% of vaccinated people obviously aren't dying from covid, so why still buy into this shit? idgi.

[Anonymous No.12735785]

>>12735609
First, antibody dependent enhancement takes time to develop. Second, there are many reasons for depopulation. As the monetary system start to collapse they need an escape goat so people dont ask questions. We know they want to move society to a global totalitarian system. You probably have heard about the great reset and how they want to change everything about society. It is all about control. In about 10 years we would have computers smarter than human, technology to extend life expectancy for decades, etc. They want everything for themself while we own nothing. It is easier to control people if they are fearful and less in numbers.

[Anonymous No.12735849]

>>12735785
>escape goat
I've never heard of an escape goat, but it sounds like it would be fun to ride one.

[Anonymous No.12735872]

>>12735785
"escape goat"
It's the goat that got away before you could fuck it.
I was *hoping* that inbred Qtards wouldn't find this place but, sigh.

[Anonymous No.12735884]

>>12735849
Scapegoat lol. Yes it is fun to ride. That is why they are using it.

[Anonymous No.12735885]

[Anonymous No.12735891]

>>12735562
How does that compare to the flu and other respiratory viruses?

[Anonymous No.12735893]

>>12735885
I agree but do you have a link from the CDC about that info?

[Anonymous No.12735898]

>>12735893
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

it's near the bottom

0-19 years: 0.00003
20-49 years: 0.0002
50-69 years: 0.005
70+ years: 0.054

[Anonymous No.12735915]

>>12735531
>if
THEN WHERE ARE THE FUCKING CASES
if any of what you said were true then the jews would be seeing the largest die off since the fucking holocaust since Israel has vaccinated half their population

[Anonymous No.12735920]

>>12735785
Take your meds.

[Anonymous No.12735936]

>>12735915
I suspect we going to see ADE cases at the end of this year and governments are going to say the virus mutated to push more draconian measures.

[Anonymous No.12735951]

>>12735936
I seriously doubt it

[Anonymous No.12735967]

>>12735936
And what are you basing that on? This is real life, not a cyberpunk dystopian YA novel. When that shit doesn't happen I sincerely hope you reconsider the conspiratorial worldview that you seem to have constructed.

[Anonymous No.12735981]

>>12735967
At what point are you going to disagree with mainstream narrative? When people cant travel, work, buy food without gotten the experimental vaccine?

[Anonymous No.12735992]

>>12735981
>experimental
You have no idea what that word means

[Anonymous No.12736006]

>>12735981
Honest question: will you abandon your conspiratorial worldview if/when people don't start dying en masse because of the vaccine?

&I do disagree with many mainstream narratives. Frankly, I think there's a nonzero chance that the virus was produced and accidentally spread by individuals conducting gain-of-function research. Additionally, I think that most mainstream news outlets have absolutely failed at science reporting and policy recommendations. It's possible to be free-thinking without falling into conspiratorial modes of analysis.

[Anonymous No.12736014]

>>12735555
Literal horseshit.

[Anonymous No.12736042]

>>12735891
I doubt there's been a lot of research into the lung health of people with mild to asymptomatic cases of influenza and other URI's.

[Anonymous No.12736082]

>>12736006
That is a good question. You have to be more specific about conspiratorial worldview. Is the great reset from the World Economic Forum false? Are fiat currencies value going to zero? Is this global system sustainable? Are we leaving in an utopia where people wont do bad things for money and control? There was a Rockefeller Foundation document saying the China system would be the only system to defeat pandemics so I dont know. I do see vaccines play a big role on the world they want to take us. More than 35 cycles and you get 97 percent false positives. Covid-19 was never isolated. This pandemic and lockdowsn are never going to end unless people do something about it.

[Anonymous No.12736090]

>>12736006
Not that guy but ill give it a few years. It means nothing anyway, the governments will never give up power and will use it to do what they please. The world doesnt need 8 billion people of which 7 are useless resource eaters.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32840608/
Research indicates the virus will never leave despite herd immunity and vaccination.
This will never end.

[Anonymous No.12736095]

>>12736090
Damn

[Anonymous No.12736107]

>>12735872
>It's the goat that got away before you could fuck it.
You're not wrong about that. This guy >>12735884 just confirmed that "it is fun to ride."

What the hell happened to this place?

[Anonymous No.12736109]

>>12736082
Exterminate everyone except the O negatives

[Anonymous No.12736119]

>>12736107
it was a metaphor

[Anonymous No.12736129]

>>12736109
>using a virus that can be overcome by most immune systems to exterminate everyone except for O-negatives
>not using a parasite that can't be fought off to exterminate everyone except for Kidd double-negatives
The New World Order sure is shit at global depopulation

[Anonymous No.12736138]

>>12736090
I agree with everything you said but I gotta say that covid-19 was never isolated.
>https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/fois-reveal-that-health-science-institutions-around-the-world-have-no-record-of-sars-cov-2-isolation-purification/

[Anonymous No.12736153]

>>12736129
So about the quality you'd expect for something made in China.

[Anonymous No.12736164]

>>12736082
By "conspiratorial worldview" I mean generally explaining events as being intentionally orchestrated by one or more groups towards a definite end. Rather than basing your views on evidence, you look for evidence to support the views that you already have. How many failed predictions will it take for you to abandon what is (imo) a flawed, unscientific way of understanding the world?

Conspiracies do happen irl, but they're generally pretty banal. Stuff like imposed austerity and trade deals pushed in the interests of various nation states or classes. There are specific rational actors with definite goals, rather than satanic lizardpeople who get off on killing people and being evil because lol why not.

[Anonymous No.12736172]

>>12736164
I meant to write: "towards an indefinite end"*

[Anonymous No.12736175]

>>12736153
Asians are disproportionately B-positive, if it were Chinese I'd expect them to save that group.

[Anonymous No.12736194]

>>12736164
This anon gets it and that other dude is a retard

[Anonymous No.12736199]

>>12736164
Ok. What about millions of people who die in war? You dont think they would do something like 911 or push toxic vaccines? The CDC database, VAERS, already have over 900 deaths and over 10,000 adverse events from covid vaccines and that is just the one being reported.

[Anonymous No.12736210]

>>12736129
>>12736175
To be a devils advocate, the world has no use for 8 billion people. O negatives comprise what... 600 million? Good spot to hit the reset button to.
>surely china wouldn't kill their own people!
J U S T
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S
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[Anonymous No.12736224]

>>12736175
This means nothing. In a /x/ style new world order depopulate because fuck the poor fuck the plebs we need a hard reset scenario, the faceless masses of B positives are exactly the ones you would need to erase. O negs dont even make 1 billion on their own.
That said fuck basques.

[Anonymous No.12736281]

>>12736199
I think that a great example of how actual conspiracies work is how the chemical industry shaped public policy and toxicological research in a way that was favorable to their bottom line. A whole generation of people were poisoned, not to dumb down the population, but rather because it was profitable. Look up Clair Patterson if you want to read about it.

The adverse event rate of the covid vaccine isn't higher than the rate for other vaccines iirc, which is impressive for a previously uncommercialized type of vaccine (people have been excited by the idea of RNA vaccines since the 90s desu) being deployed so widely and rapidly. Honestly I'm surprised that the adverse event rate isn't higher than it is. If you're scared of "toxic vaccines" then the emergence of RNA vaccines should excite you tbqh.

[Anonymous No.12736456]

>>12736281
>The adverse event rate of the covid vaccine isn't higher than the rate for other vaccines

An HHS-funded three-year review by Harvard Medical School of 715,000 patients stated that “fewer than 1% of vaccine adverse
events are reported” to VAERS.

>RNA vaccines should excite you

Moderna and Pfizer covid vaccines have PEG which is carcinogenic and can causes anaphylaxia and death. Covid vaccines have no long term studies, no studies on pregnant women, no studies if it will cause ADE like every other coronavirus vaccine. Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi say mutation and autoimmune diseases are possible with covid vaccines. Here is are some of my sources:

https://www.satrakshita.com/Books/Corona_False_Alarm.pdf
https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.com/wp-content/uploads/Vaccine-PP.pdf
https://2020news.de/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Wodarg_Yeadon_EMA_Petition_Pfizer_Trial_FINAL_01DEC2020_EN_unsigned_with_Exhibits.pdf
https://hpv-vaccine-side-effects.com/covid-19-vaccine-side-effects-world-map/
https://odysee.com/@TimTruth:b/vaxadverseeventsanecdotes:6

[Anonymous No.12736605]

>>12736456
You didn't reply to my conspiracy/lead-poisoning point, which is kinda the main point.

>“fewer than 1% of vaccine adverse
events are reported” to VAERS.
Any chance you could link to the actual study?
>Moderna and Pfizer covid vaccines have PEG which is carcinogenic
I don't think PEG is carcinogenic. I'm open to the idea that many things that are thought to be safe by regulatory bodies are actually mildly toxic, but that's a separate issue tbqh.
Anyways, PEG is hardly a vital component of RNA vaccines in general. PEG is used to help stabilize the vaccine, but other things could also conceivably be used for the same purpose.
>Covid vaccines have no long term studies, no studies on pregnant women
Those studies are being carried out now.
>no studies if it will cause ADE like every other coronavirus vaccine.
Again, why haven't we seen it yet then? Nothing in the clinical trials and nothing after that.
>Here is are some of my sources
So you've got a hippie, a grifter doctor, some guy's court submission, an anti-hpv vaccine website, and a screencast. nice. Maybe I'll read the front line one if I have time.

[Anonymous No.12736671]

>>12736605
>Any chance you could link to the actual study?
https://digital.ahrq.gov/sites/default/files/docs/publication/r18hs017045-lazarus-final-report-2011.pdf

>I don't think PEG is carcinogenic
https://thewallwillfall.org/2021/01/03/covid-vaccines-are-medical-experiments-on-humanity-dr-tom-cowans/

>why haven't we seen it yet then?
Read about it. Trials are too short. Wait for next flu season

>hippie
Ad hominem fallacy. Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi has practiced medicine for 5 decades and researcher at Max Planck Institude

>a grifter doctor
A group of doctors and excerts who have sources and studies in their white paper

>some guy's court submission
Some guy is actually ex Pfizer vice president. The letter was send to European Medicines Agency

>anti-hpv vaccine website
I prefer to focus on covid but feel free to check their website

>screencast
100s of people's comments after taking covid vaccine. Take is as a grain of salt

[Anonymous No.12736700]

>>12735920
He should be on meds but the great reset is a real thing. The agenda is laid out on the world economic forum website here
https://www.weforum.org/great-reset
The man heading it has been quoted as saying "you'll own nothing and you'll be happy". These are all billionaires btw.
Take a look at their partners
https://www.weforum.org/partners

[Anonymous No.12736706]

>>12736700
Funny how these technocrats don't realize what happens when people have nothing to lose.

[Anonymous No.12736708]

>>12736700
>the great reset
I still haven't managed to get a single poltard to explain what that is

[Anonymous No.12736716]

>>12736708
click on the world economic forums website, though they are vague, it's basically the age old wealth retribution bullshit that's been tried time and time again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mpsro3s5pI

[Anonymous No.12736732]

>>12736708
"You will own nothing, and be happy." You will be a slave in a global totalitarian government.
https://thehighwire.com/videos/the-covid-19-global-order/

[Anonymous No.12736733]

>>12735531
>>12735555
I was virtually asymptomatic, at least what would be noticed by others. I think I originally caught it around Oct/Nov of 19.
It laid mostly dormant until late January of 20. I had 2 or 3 days of odd fatigue and throat issues like i was getting sick, but never did, however, after that the breathing issues set in. Felt really heavy and hard to breathe for a month, but with no other symptoms. Eventually it cleared around early March.
Then 2-3 months later the breathing thing came back for 2 weeks or so. That was followed by a month or so of extreme fatigue.
Then it was gone again.
Then it surfaced one last time around new years 20-21 with the hard breathing.
Each time it does feel a bit weaker though, but it's no joke. I think the death is low but it has long effects. It "felt" like a bio weapon, whatever my mind perceives that to feel like. Or what I'm saying is it didn't feel normal.

The only other symptom I noticed was it caused some lip nerve damage and caused a lip rash. The so called lack of taste people report. I don't think it's a lessened sense of taste though directly; it's not if you pay close attention, but rather a loss of feeling on tongue and lips, which then mimics loss of taste.

The one other guy I know who thinks he had it, and was also asymptomatic has also had on and off hard breathing reoccur over the year.

[Anonymous No.12736740]

>>12736733
How often u get flu vaccine?

[Anonymous No.12736752]

>>12736733
I got it last may, zero lung damage, wife expecting healthy baby in a couple months, was like an allergy. Healthy and o neg though which I've read helps. I know people who its killed though but to a last they were literal human waste and the species is better off without them.

[Anonymous No.12736771]

>>12736671
Christ, idk why I'm even responding, the science in your sources is so shoddy.
>https://digital.ahrq.gov/sites/default/files/docs/publication/r18hs017045-lazarus-final-report-2011.pdf
Data is from 2009, which doesn't make it wrong, it is a decade old at this point.
>https://thewallwillfall.org/2021/01/03/covid-vaccines-are-medical-experiments-on-humanity-dr-tom-cowans/
His citation for the claim that PEG is carcinogenic is a letter to the editors of a journal speculating about rectal or vaginal PEG suppositories could possibly be linked to cancer. It's a terrible source and you should feel embarrassed for being so credulous.
>muh ad hom
The guy seemed like a whiny dipshit with dumb priorities. That's just my brief impression.
>A group of doctors and excerts
I checked their website, they seem like grifters.
>Some guy is actually ex Pfizer vice president.
I don't care. I'm not reading random legal docs you dumped without any context despite it having nothing to do with anything you said in your post. Weird stuff man.
>I prefer to focus on covid
Being against vaccines in general is dumb and bad. There are potentially many reasons to be against specific vaccines, but anti-vaxxers lose all credibility for thinking that all vaccines are the same.
>Take is as a grain of salt
Ok, I'll just disregard all that then.

[Anonymous No.12736794]

>>12735531

[Anonymous No.12736802]

>>12736771
>I'm not reading
Ok.

[Anonymous No.12736819]

>>12736802
I don't have the desire to read several hundred pages of vaguely related material you dumped here. Learn to communicate better if you want to be engaged with.

Btw, you should be embarrassed for being so utterly credulous, this is some really shoddy stuff.

[Anonymous No.12736823]

>>12736740
never get/got it

[Anonymous No.12736824]

It's political fear mongering to control the masses.

[Anonymous No.12736826]

>>12736771
Yeadon letter have info on PCR, Sanger sequencing, PEG, Syncyntin-1, and Corman-Drosten paper

[Anonymous No.12736833]

>>12736823
What is your opinion on 5g giving flu-like symptoms? I havent focus on 5g much but some doctors said dry cough is a blood illness.

[Anonymous No.12736842]

>>12736833
Why tf would 5G cause flu-like symptoms? You're not thinking rationally, what could possibly be the mechanism there? You could make the argument that beam-forming causes tissue warming which causes cancer, or that non-thermal microwave effects have some sort of subtle effect on chemical processes in the body, but there's no fucking way 5G causes flu-like symptoms. You people are so fucking stupid, holy shit.

[Anonymous No.12736844]

>>12736842
Uhm, it is like microwave wavelength being same size as water molecule. With 5g I heard wavelength interacts with oxygen.

[Anonymous No.12736852]

>>12736844
No. That's fucking retarded. You're not going to get any significant dielectric heating from 5G antennas, even with the higher bands unless you stood right next to the antenna. Furthermore, you wouldn't get "flu-like symptoms" from rf exposure of that sort, you'd get fucking cancer you fucking invalid.

[Anonymous No.12736861]

>>12736833
Probably not flu symptoms from 5g. It may be harmful, but like anon suggested it fits more in line with radiation events.

Now that I think of it though, there was another symptom, I had it, and it may be related to 5g
People all over different social media were reporting a massive increase in ear ringing all throughout the year. The ear ringing could have easily come from the covid, but I could also see 5g affecting the ear.

[Anonymous No.12736930]

>>12735531
I'm a Biologists who is critical of all the corona-stuff thats going on. Here my take:

- the PCR tests could be mostly false-positives. (Look up Michael Yeadon on lbry.tv for great explanation why)
- The gene therapy-type vaccines will cause more long-term immunological problems than our good'ol Jenner-vaccines. This is because the immunogen is produced within you own cells instead of floating freely between the cells and inside the lymph nodes. Immunologically a HUGE difference. With those new vaccines your immune system will have bigger problem separating yourself from the virus as its target.
- lipid nanoparticles (Moderna/Pfizer) are toxic as fuck. I used them many times in the lab on cultured cells. Everyone knows how toxic they are. Has mostly to do with how your cells handle the cationic fatty acid and PEG that are components of the LNPs.
- There is an incentive by the leaders (gov and corp) to keep you job-less, stuck at home. They've known, latest since 08 crash, that the West is doomed. Are now initiating an artificial depression to reset the West and avoid things like a hot war. Of course the new economy will be mostly composed out of the "initiators". I am reading Klaus Schwabs "Great Reset" right now and he openly admits that (in a rosy way).
- Our science and healthcare complexes have become corrupt. They are the new religious dogma, what the catholic church was before the 30 years war. I expect eugenics and prohibitions (e.g. of travel if not newly vaccinated) coming from those complexes the next 5-10 years.

[Anonymous No.12736931]

>>12735531
Fake and gay, don't give a shit about deaths, don't give a shit about suffering.

[Anonymous No.12736938]

>>12736210
O negs are universal donors though. You can put their blood in anything and it just werks. Shame to waste it. Ab+'s are the real freeloading faggots.

[Anonymous No.12736951]

>>12736930
well said, fren. i'm genuinely convinced sarscov2 was made by modification of the spike with that arginine insert on ratg13 so it can bind to human ace2 then passaged to k18 mice to hide it behind what would appear as perfectly natural purification selection while keeping intact the o-linked glycans. the purpose ofc is to excuse the testing on the safety of mrna vaccines on a mass scale for the elites' longevity projects which up until recently have been complete failures. the virus is too well adapted to be a "completely natural spill over nothing to see here event" and the amount of academic dogpiling against even legit researchers like alina chan from mit broad inst at merely questioning the origin makes me suspect it. gof has been around for a while and there was a moratorium on them after the ferret paper that forced the research to china. anyway my hypothesis is essentially the ferret paper but with k18 mice which have humanized ace2 and have been around for about a decade at least.

[Anonymous No.12736953]

>>12735609
The economic forum. The great reset.

[Anonymous No.12736956]

>>12736930
I am op. Finally someone who agrees with me.

[Anonymous No.12736957]

>>12735531
2% death rate

[Anonymous No.12736995]

>>12736951
what is gof?
Haven't read to omuch into the lab-leak hypothesis yet but will at some poin. Don't know how gain-of-function research truly works; will look into the k18 mice.

I know from internal papers from Biontech (Pfizers tech platform partner) that are floating around here in Germany that their mRNA vaccine is basically a temporary gene therapy platform. And thei FDA and EMA clearance for the vaccine are the basis for future, much chheaper, clearances for using their mRNA-platform for other purposes like eugenics/life-extension/therapies. Their internal paper shows that they have other versions in the pipeline. E.g. mRNA sequences that also harbour a reverse transcriptase or replicase. I could also imagine altered UTRs and Kozak sequences to increase intracellular half-life.

They basically brute-forced a tech platform into existence with which any protein can be over-expressed cheaply in your cells. With obviously HUUGE side effects because of the crude way those LNPs work

[Anonymous No.12737026]

I wish pol would leave

[Anonymous No.12737029]

>>12737026
>I wish pol would leave

[Anonymous No.12737045]

>>12736995
gain of function (gof) is essentially modification of viruses so they gain a function like infection of a new host, etc. a lot of the research is to mimic natural viral evolution to model and beat outbreaks to the chase. ofc it can also be used to make bioweapons. i hypothesize it was k18 mice as it would be the perfect host given they have humanized ace2. and given they have an immune system purification selection will take place which leave o-linked glycans in tact so it looks natural. and it was established that the key difference between sarscov2 and ratg13 was these arginine residues on sarcov2's spike that enable it to bind to human ace2.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/bies.202000240

[Anonymous No.12737096]

The real pill here is that an inability to sensibly analyse data and understand the implications of changes in methodology, combined with westerners thinking they should live forever and be 100% safe is causing a massive shitstorm.

Almost a year later and we are STILL using mass pcr at stupidly high cycle rates, very high primer concentrations, and with primers that are susceptible to cross reaction with other coronaviruses and that cannot distinguish fragmented from whole rna.

Combine that with an absolute unwillingness on the part of governments to just admit the risk of death is really limited to those over 70 and we have a recipe for endless lockdown.

[Anonymous No.12737291]

>>12736153
>So about the quality you'd expect for something made in China.
Chinese electronics are top notch, you are stuck in a 90's meme. The top civilian drone company, DJI, is Chinese. The drones your favorite youtubers use for their shots are probably DJI.

[Anonymous No.12737303]

>>12736733
You sound like a massive hypochondriac

[Anonymous No.12738065]

>>12736700
>world economic forum
They have as much influence on global economics than we do

[Anonymous No.12738077]

>>12737029
Based nonargument
Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.12738082]

>>12735531
JUST

[Anonymous No.12738097]

these threads convinced me to get vaccinated as soon as I can. Retards from /pol/ were wrong about every single thing about this pandemic

[Anonymous No.12738105]

>>12737096
high iq post

[Anonymous No.12738108]

>>12738077
>>>12737029
>Based nonargument
>Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.12738117]

>>12735531

[Anonymous No.12738122]

>>12738097
You're kind of mistaken by saying that
Jan/feb 2020 was a lot of accurate info, but it seems the actual helpful posters got replaced by schizos once it got mainstream

[Anonymous No.12738143]

>>12736930
>Of course the new economy will be mostly composed out of the "initiators". I am reading Klaus Schwabs "Great Reset" right now and he openly admits that (in a rosy way).
Could give us a QRD? I'm not reading that shit

[Anonymous No.12738151]

>>12736090
Of course, anybody with half a brain could see the virus was never going away the moment it left china. It is, after all, a coronavirus, which its cousins circulate seasonally as the common cold. Even the 1918's pandemic flu is still circulating, all common flu strains today are descendent from it. The question is how deadly will Covid become, we know Britain's strain is 30-70% more deadly, but that could increase. The effects of vaccination appear to be nonlinear in that we don't know how they will guide virus evolution in the long term.

[Anonymous No.12738220]

>>12736930
>- the PCR tests could be mostly false-positives. (Look up Michael Yeadon on lbry.tv for great explanation why)
Do you also doubt the antibody tests? They're coming back positive at a far higher rate than the PCRs.

[Anonymous No.12738249]

Trump lost. QAnon isn't real. The Earth is round. 5g is not a Jewish conspiracy to make you bald.

[Anonymous No.12738277]

>>12738220
I’m not him. But my personal take is it’s mostly nonsense. Antibody test are notoriously useless.
https://www.fda.gov/media/139283/download
>4.1. For prescription use only. For in vitro diagnostic use only. Do not use after expiration date.
>4.2. This test has not been FDA cleared or approved; this test has been authorized by FDA under an EUA for use by laboratories certified under CLIA, that meet requirements to perform moderate or high complexity tests.
>4.4. This test is only authorized for the duration of the declaration that circumstances exist justifying the authorization of emergency use of in vitro diagnostic tests for detection and/or diagnosis of COVID-19 under Section 564(b)(1) of the Act, 21 U.S.C. § 360bbb-3(b)(1), unless the authorization is terminated or revoked sooner
> 11.1. This test is only to be used in CLIA certified laboratories and not in point-of-care or at- home testing settings.
11.2. This test can only be used for the analysis of serum, plasma (heparin, K2-EDTA, and sodium citrate), and venous whole blood (heparin, K2-EDTA, and sodium citrate) samples.

[Anonymous No.12738285]

>>12738277
Cont.
> 11.3. Negative results do not preclude SARS-CoV-2 infection and should not be used as the sole basis for patient management decisions. IgM antibodies may not be detected in the first few days of infection; the sensitivity of the Biohit SARS-CoV-2 IgM/IgG Antibody Test Kit early after infection is unknown. False positive results for IgM and IgG antibodies may occur due to cross-reactivity from pre-existing antibodies or other possible causes.
>11.5. A positive result may not indicate previous SARS-CoV-2 infection. Consider other information, including clinical history and local disease prevalence, in assessing the need for an alternative serology test to confirm an immune response. Positive results may be due to past or present infection with non-SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus strains, such as coronavirus HKU1, NL63, OC43, or 229E.
>11.6. The test is limited to the qualitative detection of antibodies specific for the SARS-CoV- 2 virus. The intensity of the test line does not necessarily correlate to SARS-CoV-2 antibody
I know the copes.
>they have to write it
>that’s just the legal advisers
>everybody does it
>it’s still precise
But that’s irrelevant or wrong. It’s in the description, because it’s true.

[Anonymous No.12738304]

>>12738277
>>12738285
Interesting. I had a family member test negative via PCR when he was feeling awful. He was regularly getting PCR and antibody tests because he travels frequently. A month after his illness, an antibody test came back positive. Seems like it detected the infection where the PCR missed it.

[Anonymous No.12738315]

>>12736861
I have mild static in my ears as well, and I have for years at this point. I had it checked out a year or two after I started noticing it, they did an MRI just to be sure, but the doctors told me that it's usually a benign or natural cause and it's pretty common. So I seriously doubt it's 5G, how would it work anyways?

[Anonymous No.12738330]

>>12738315
>I have mild static in my ears as well
You mean tinnitus? Were you tested for hearing loss? I've had tinnitus for years, and assumed it couldn't be due to hearing loss, because I've always avoided loud noises and protected my ears. Turns out I have hearing loss in the upper range, which is strongly correlated with tinnitus. I think in my case it may be due to a lifetime of chronic ear, nose, and throat infections.

[Anonymous No.12738345]

>>12735531
what do you want to know about the scamflu anon?

[Anonymous No.12738350]

>>12735898

[Anonymous No.12738360]

>>12738304
>Interesting
Thanks.
>had a family member test negative via PCR when he was feeling awful.
That’s probably because he had something else. E.g. if he travels a lot he is possibly often exposed environments with high toxicity levels, due to low environmental regulatory standards. Or the synthetic oil fumes in the bleed air in most aircrafts. qRT-PCR is ridiculously sensitive and strange things can happen, but it’s not very likely.
>He was regularly getting PCR and antibody tests because he travels frequently.
Well somehow the numbers have to go up.
>A month after his illness, an antibody test came back positive.
>Seems like it detected the infection where the PCR missed it.
It just seems like it, but antibody activity can be high due to any number of circumstances.
I’m glad he seems to be doing well again.

[Anonymous No.12738362]

>>12738249
>believes in magic ballots in the middle of the night

do clown cult members really?

[Anonymous No.12738364]

>>12738345
>Almost a 33% increase in deaths over the average from the previous five years
Not sure you're really doing a good job supporting your point.

[Anonymous No.12738369]

>>12738350
So you're saying that if pneumonia is also listed on the death certificate, which it would be in the majority of COVID-19 deaths, that it shouldn't count as a COVID-19 death? That doesn't make much sense.

[Anonymous No.12738373]

>>12738304
Because they are more/less likely to be positive at different points. Viral load will peak and decay sooner than antibody count. What's most likely though is he got an unrelated illness and SARS-CoV-2 after it.

[Anonymous No.12738375]

>>12735531
A cold like virus absolutely overplayed for politics
>>12735555
That was from a tweet dumbass

[Anonymous No.12738388]

>>12738373
>What's most likely though is he got an unrelated illness and SARS-CoV-2 after it.
Why would that be most likely? It takes several weeks for antibodies to become detectable, so testing positive for antibodies a month after the infection (the antibody test during the infection was negative) means that the SARS-CoV-2 infection had to be around the time of his illness, give or take a week. He was also tested for influenza, which was negative. The other possibility is he had a different coronavirus infection, but his illness was primarily fatigue, breathing difficulties, and extreme muscle soreness. The endemic coronaviruses more often cause symptoms of the upper respiratory tract.

[Anonymous No.12738453]

>>12738388
Aerotoxic syndrome
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerotoxisches_Syndrom
Using automatic translation
>These include: irritation of the mucous membranes, shortness of breath, cardiac arrhythmias, headaches, abdominal cramps, muscle weakness, flu-like symptoms, panic attacks, disorders of balance and gait, tingling and numbness. >These symptoms may or may not appear immediately. They can also develop over days and weeks, or they can not occur at all
It’s also accumulative, but would be interesting, if he remembers smelling something strange on board recently.

[Anonymous No.12738471]

>>12736826
>>12736930
>>12736826
>>12737096
>>12738360
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWZZV51Pn5U

[Anonymous No.12738522]

>>12736930
>I'm a Biologists
I stopped reading there.

[Anonymous No.12738530]

>>12738388
I'm under the impression that antibodies develop most often around 1 week after prominent symptoms, sometimes a week or two later, and then return to undetectable levels not long after. I suppose the PCR test could've been negative, I should've included that my hypothesis was merely my opinion and conjecture rather than fact though.

[Anonymous No.12738548]

>>12737303
quite the opposite actually, I'm the guy telling people to play in the dirt to build up their immunity.

>>12738315
you said years in your case, this is something new that started around Feb-20, and was reported by many people to have just appeared out of nowhere.

[Anonymous No.12738580]

>>12736733
Just stop wearing a mask and do some exercice retard

[Anonymous No.12738651]

I can't believe people still buy this bullshit lol. if you didn't have this figured out by april of last year you should kys

[Anonymous No.12738676]

Coronavirus is fake and gay psyops, imagine falling for that fake and gay covid19 psyop 19 years after 9/11.

The PCR test is misused globally, Kary Mullis, who invented the tests stated that it isn't suited for pure diagnosis.
It doesn't detect a virus but specific genes, who doesn't mean anything without clinical observations or further investigations, a test developped by Christian Drosten, some controversial German viroligist. This test was done based on computer generated viruses, they literally invented a virus from genes fragments, adding some randomness in the blanks parts (muuh the genomes contains HIV, well, maybe look how the sequencing was actually done Mr Montagnier).
There is this whole psyop around a man made virus, which is retarded, you just can't make that shit up. US government terrorized its population with anthrax attacks but it was all just fake and gay to push some vaccines. Anthrax is very easy to manufacture, if it was so deadly we would have heard about massive poisoning of populations with that or other bacterias, let alone viruses, that we think we can manipulate and manufacture since decades, but the only biological weapons are toxins and poisons, many such cases, no germs were ever found to be usable in bio warfare (and we tried that extensively, yeah native American didn't die of "infected blankets" but because of Spaniards destroying their environment and genociding them).
We never isolated and purified the Sars cov 2 virus, let alone observing it, even on an electron microscope, Off-guardian produced ewtensive article about that topic.
But most importantly, the germ theory of disease is simply wrong, no viruses or bacterias are contagious, they are bystanders constituting the human biome and virome.
We have more viruses in our body than the amount of debt worldwide in dollars.
If there is a wide scale conspiracy, then they sprayed toxic agents on populations inducing various symptoms, but it's more likely that people are stupid.

[Anonymous No.12738699]

>>12736006
I study mathematical biology and I have a prof. who is a mainstream researcher and mathematician who studies complex systems and networks, primarily as they pertain to environmental and epidemiological disasters and challenges. Me and her have even had conversations about the COVID response, the lack of nuance, and the fact that we are overlooking the sociological components of this epidemic. Pretty much anyone in academia who isn't tightly connected with the media/public relations/policy side of things has serious criticisms of the COVID response. The crazy thing, is that you can't explain this to anyone. If I express any concerns or criticisms about this to family or on social media, or in some public context at my university, I am/would be labeled as a far-right conspiracy theorist.

I feel like I'm surrounded by retards on all sides, be they republicans who think this is a hoax or democrats who think it's black death 2.0. Thankfully most of my close friends and colleagues are more intelligent than the general public and interested in analyzing these issues, so I can have reasonable scientific conversations in private, but I have had some crazy ass conversations with distant relatives and random people on social media. I've literally had numerous exchanges with these two white trash leftists on Fb who are like friends of a friends I knew in Hs or some shit. I don't actually know who they are, but it's literally some obese lesbian chick and this dude who sells weed at a local weed shop, and these people have argued with me over population dynamics on Fb. The dude also said he reported me to Fb and my university. I don't know if that's true, but this was in the summer, and nothing has come of it, but it pisses me off that some SJW who sells weed for a living and probably doesn't even know what a continuous function is, thinks he has a better understanding of population dynamics than someone with a degree in math studying math bio.

[Anonymous No.12738721]

>>12738530
>I'm under the impression that antibodies develop most often around 1 week after prominent symptoms, sometimes a week or two later, and then return to undetectable levels not long after.
The duration for antibodies is all over the place. Anywhere from many people having no detectable antibodies at three months post-infection, to most people still having detectable antibodies at six months. No clue what the actual answer is since the answers from studies are so conflicting.

[Anonymous No.12738723]

>>12738676
Anyway, if we get sick, we now have some good remedies (some think we still sont have any for some reasons).
Taking vitamin D before winter will still be more effective than any vaccine, and if you get really fucked Ivermectine will inihibts enzymes stopping the viral process and giving you more time.
swprs.org have some good infos on treatments
There is also all of this weird symptoms, but they can all be attributed to the common cold going bad.
Anosmia seems more widespread though, also a sign of toxic fumes poisoning, so maybe pollution, maybe some mid volcano activities somewhere.

Regarding death rates, beside the US and some wealthy countries, nothing happened considering that boomers are aging.
Germany death rates is one the best example of this.

>but it's lockdowns and masks

Sweden is often mentioned as an example, as it didn't impose mask mandates or lockdowns, but Sweden also killed their elderly en masse during the first epidemic, or first wave.
Many other countries or US states didn't lockdowns or did any mask mandate and they are way better.
Argentina, the country with the longest lockdown and tighter restrictions have very bad numbers in comparisons.

[Anonymous No.12738747]

>>12738721
T cells.
You'll have issues finding relevant answers regarding the official narrative on the antibodies theory cause it's strongly linked to the vaccine industry.
Regarding germ theory : your body have a memory and know how to produce antibodies rapidly in the presence of a similar virus.

[Anonymous No.12738773]

>>12738721
>No clue what the actual answer is since the answers from studies are so conflicting.

https://www.scilifelab.se/news/a-majority-retain-protective-antibodies-against-covid-19-nine-months-after-infection

>96% retain protective antibodies against COVID-19 nine months after infection

I could've said that day zero. It's a coronavirus, you'll gain lasting immunity to it in almost every case.

But "BECAUSE IT'S NOVEL WE HAVE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL"-cancer media keeps spraying diarrhea and lies all over the place no one cares what a random MD says.

[Anonymous No.12738780]

>>12738699
Based post

[Anonymous No.12738787]

>>12738249
qanon is an obvious glowwie psyop to cause normies like you to have an association fallacy with dissidents and conspiracy loons.

[Anonymous No.12738803]

>>12738249
>5g is not a Jewish conspiracy to make you bald
Well,
https://physicsworld.com/a/sweat-glands-are-tiny-antennas/

[Anonymous No.12738824]

>>12736951
Psyop, computer generated bullshits, the basis of science isn't reliable in the first place.

[Anonymous No.12738826]

>>12738471
There is so much wrong with it. I don’t even know where to start. Do you have a transcript. He misinterpreted so much things and showed naive diagrams.
Horrible science.
>Ct-value of 40 tells you anything
It’s ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.12738832]

>>12736006
>conspiratorial worldview
nitpicking data and challenging narratives is literally the most scientific thing you can do. you don't get to stop defending yourself, ever. yes, you must suffer the scrutiny of fools and laymen. no, there is no "final" word on anything. cope and seethe.

[Anonymous No.12738872]

>>12738471
>he claims 96 percent identity
This guy is scientifically illiterate.
>Furthermore, we show that 2019-nCoV is 96% identical at the whole-genome level to a bat coronavirus.
That’s irrelevant. It’s like saying whole nematodes genome considered humans are probably 90 somewhat percent identical. It’s meaningless since there are so many nematodes out there. But anybody with a functional mind can grasp we aren’t nematodes.
>The sequences are almost identical and share 79.6% sequence identity to SARS-CoV.
This is the relevant number. And it’s really low. This level of homology is rather insignificant. If we compare humans and chimpanzees we have a more than 98 percent homologous genome.

[Anonymous No.12738925]

>>12738471
>SARS-CoV-2 original hosts are bats
Speculation. Corespondent sequences have been found. And the transcriptome of bats is huge and barley studied. Also they account for 20 percent of all mammal species. So something being found in them isn’t a huge surprise.
>Mers-CoV host is camels
Except it’s specifically claimed to be endemic in young Camelus dromedarius. Commonly referred to as dromedary and not as camels.
>entire genome on gene bank
No that’s an in silico reconstruction of a theoretical hole genome.
It would take hours to correct this guy.

[Anonymous No.12738934]

>>12738925
Just make another video

[Anonymous No.12739066]

>>12738780
Kek

[Anonymous No.12739095]

>>12736164
>Conspiracies do happen irl, but they're generally pretty banal
i'm getting real tired of you fucking r*dditors coming here

[Anonymous No.12739172]

>>12738934
I’m not the guy for this stuff. It’s a herculean task, if I trail every nonsense for five ours straight, I will never come home. It’s insane, how fast you can pile up rumors and half truths into a mountain. In my eyes science is dead anyway. Most were bought with a grant and now many are pacified with a large money supply to do SARS-CoV-2 research. The research on the accuracy is out there and probably the most eminent PCR expert contributed. And Eurosurveillance just said they won’t scientifically answer the retraction paper. They just claim their reviewers couldn’t find anything wrong. It’s not much I could add anyway. Regarding the take of this FreeThinker (TM) I hope it’s obvious to anybody familiar with the matter or an inquisitive mind. He uses “virology from down under” and the guy doing this has massive conflicts of interests regarding perpetuation of the unlimited testing paradigm.

[Anonymous No.12739186]

>>12738220
I personally dont know about the antigen tests. It depends how they are tuned. If they are tuned as to avoid as many false positives as possible they will be way to sensitives. The great power of an antigen test is then lost. Its power is specificity normally.

[Anonymous No.12739205]

>>12737096
Is it too far of a leap to see this as the health care industry attempting to grasp power? I realize it is conspiratorial in nature, but it's not like power grabs haven't been the norm for the majority of recorded human history.

I do think medicine has a lot of value, but I think people are attempting to erect a new God as if we should expect shrines of Asclepius to start being compulsory. I am speaking metaphorically of course, but as someone who went through an edgy atheist phase, I can't help but notice these similar patterns. And it gets worse when you consider that via medicine, people are nearly attempting to become Gods themselves. They expect that society keeps them alive, despite the costs. They fervently avoid the natural cycling of matter that gave them life in the first place.

Of course this is somewhat in line with some Conservative views on health care, so the whole thing gets obfuscated as fuck by politics.

[Anonymous No.12739218]

>>12736733
>"covid" that lasts months
>autoimmune symptoms that last months
You don't frequent any gay bathhouses do you?

[Anonymous No.12739222]

>>12736794
Could someone go and shoot this faggot already?

[Anonymous No.12739224]

>>12739205
What's crazy is that Asclepius' mother in some tellings is a woman named Coronis.

[Anonymous No.12739228]

>>12737096
Based and actualized

[Anonymous No.12739296]

>>12739186
The thing with antibody based testing mechanism is an old issue. And thinking antibodies are really specific meaning they will just have one function or bind to one thing is just not what happens in reality. It’s always about the parameters around the test. Also depending on the proteins involved the promiscuity is quiet high. In the end the labs mostly use other mechanisms to get the proper results.

[Anonymous No.12739309]

>>12736164
>There are specific rational actors with definite goals, rather than satanic lizardpeople who get off on killing people and being evil because lol why not.
Sounds like Holocaust denial.

[Anonymous No.12739394]

>>12739218
There's gay bath houses now?

Symptoms from mono can last months. Other persistent diseases last until you clear the toxin, parasite, bacteria, or infection, and some things last a life time. Why is it so strange to think covid couldn't have long term symptoms?

Only reporting my experience. Could I have or had some other issue? Sure. Do I know 100% I had covid? Nope. I had no pre-existing conditions, not over weight, and had a physical 6 months prior. If you think it's not related than filter it out of your information tunnel. But from my experience, and what I've read and seen in others, that's my story.

[Anonymous No.12739413]

>>12739394
>Why is it so strange to think covid couldn't have long term symptoms?
Not him. Because your body usually heals itself. Unless there is something constantly doing damage. Maybe there is something they aren’t telling us about

[Anonymous No.12739451]

GET THAT SHIT VACCINE AWAY FROM ME

GET AWAY FROM ME JEWS

AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!

[Anonymous No.12739456]

>>12736733
Respond to my case. Compare and contrast

>>12739289

[Anonymous No.12739458]

>uh how do we do this without getting guillotined
>"just enact a worldwide house arrest bro"

[Anonymous No.12739514]

>>12739456
I'd say more different than similar, but there are some parallels. The hard breathing of course, and taste issues, but the rest of yours sounds more like extreme cold and flu symptoms, where I had none of that.

[Anonymous No.12739529]

>>12739222
why?

[Anonymous No.12741079]

>>12739224
Interesting

[Anonymous No.12742077]

>>12739456
Or with the useless tests you had something different and due to the COVID-19 panic everything isn’t properly checked and just claimed to be due to SARS-CoV-2.

[Anonymous No.12743247]

>>12737096
this is so based i am posting this somewhere else

[Anonymous No.12743595]

https://archive.is/iYWse

[Anonymous No.12743645]

>>12743595
The game currently being played
https://mobile.twitter.com/Daoyu15/status/1363648498403479554

[Anonymous No.12743647]

>>12738350
/pol/tards are actually illiterate.

[Anonymous No.12743654]

>>12738345
>>12738350
The basic reason why China will eventually defeat America is because China puts people like this in camps.

[Anonymous No.12743675]

>>12743647
>>12743654
Read this >>12743645

[Anonymous No.12743700]

>>12735872

Kys r edditor

[Anonymous No.12743714]

>>12736164

Nice holocaust denial.

[Anonymous No.12743866]

Look up leaky vaccines and tell me that it wouldn't be perfect for population control. Only those permitted to live will exist in the future

[Anonymous No.12743881]

>>12735531
Vaccine is a marker for biological weapons.
Especriment with kitty cats was made, all of them died when exposed to the flu after being shot with mRNA vavac.

[Anonymous No.12745399]

>>12738471
Hilarious how the people in the comment section uncritically buy science this bad.

[Anonymous No.12745415]

>>12735885
So at a college football game with 80,000 students we could expect one team to die?

[Anonymous No.12747061]

>>12745415
The rest is statistic noise. It’s the one guy hit by a bus with a positive test less than a month ago.

[Anonymous No.12747105]

I don't wear mask/socially distance/lock myself down not just because the mortality is low. It's because if you do all the things above, your chance to die is absolutely negligible. And if you don't, but complain about others not doing it, then you are a huge hypocrite and deserve your covid.

[Anonymous No.12747319]

>>12738780
Me on the right

[Anonymous No.12748396]

>>12739222
Lets see if he depopulates Africa first

[Anonymous No.12748409]

>>12736852
>significant
How does 10 years living next to one of these sound?
You don't see these in rich neighborhoods they seem to be focused in poor areas and by the freeways
Think of all the other little things that are "insignificant"
Cancer is so fucking high these days too so fuck off

[Anonymous No.12748412]

>>12736164
>Conspiracies do happen irl, but they're generally pretty banal.

So taking it that you acknowledge conspiracies happen, let's continue:

1. Conspiracies happen
2. Sociopaths exist
3. Sociopaths are more likely to rise to positions of power due to sociopathy
4. Sociopaths are willing to do evil shit for power and thrill
5. When sociopaths are concentrated in a group with excess power and capital what happens?

[Anonymous No.12748425]

>>12736771
>it is a decade old at this point.

Any reason to believe the data from a 3 year study to be irrelevant? Do you think it has drastically changed in the last 10 years?

>I NEED A 3 year study from THIS YEAR!

[Anonymous No.12748469]

>>12748412
western civilization is utterly fucked.

[Anonymous No.12748475]

>>12735609
The world does not need 8 billion people you fucking retard. a few hundred million is more than enough. Like 1/10 people in the world produce nothing, they only consume. If they were all dead tomorrow the world would objectively be a better place.
People in power know this.

[Anonymous No.12748483]

>>12748469
It certainly seems dire.

If we can use the power of the internet to create a cultural resonance and empower what I term, "Competent Altruists" we may be able to usher in a new era.

This thing we are on truly is a miraculous and world changing invention. If we can leverage its power we may be able to usher in a new age. It won't be easy and it will often seem doomed. Hope is vital. It is better to fight and fail than to never even try.

[Anonymous No.12748523]

>>12748483
the internet is effectively dead, maybe a 2.0 model could work but this is useless. I have a friend who is from china, he uses the internet only for purchases, has a social media account he has just so he doesn't look like he is avoiding attention, told me a story a while back about a neighbor who used the internet like we're using it now -- to be critical, and never came back after a visit from some police. western governments would love nothing more than to have that power at their fingertips. cancel culture is just the beginning imo, and it will mean the death of the internet as people stop using it because it's too easy to be identified/doxxed/permanently removed.

[Anonymous No.12748525]

>>12735609
>so why still buy into this shit
retards will always be retard, you cant argue with them

[Anonymous No.12748571]

>>12748525
Nice argument. Next time I am in a debate I am going to shit post to make it look like I am better than the people I am arguing with.

[Anonymous No.12748575]

>>12748523
>western governments would love nothing more than to have that power at their fingertips.

I think they do have that power, they just don't use it as harshly. Maybe we're lucky that the rulers of the west aren't as completely tyrannical as the CCP.

>cancel culture

I think it's an attempt by the leftwing to arrive at the same situation as China. However they are unable to do it on pseudo-anonymous sites such as this. The NSA clearly could identify any of us if they wished, but they aren't disappearing people like China. Perhaps it is a good reason to remain hopeful.