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https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/multimedia/raw-images/

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>> No.12724775

Who cares?

>> No.12724791

>>12724741
So Mars is white? White privilege? BASED.

>> No.12724806
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12724806

Did they legit have the rover drop a penny and take a picture for scale? Lmao

>> No.12724827

>chinese release video
>Nasa released black/white images

>> No.12725050

>>12724827
post the video from your rovers, cheng

>> No.12725068

>>12724741
I don't get it, haven't we already done rovers and taken WAY better pics than this? What's the big deal and why does it look like shit?

>> No.12725078

>>12725068
it just landed, these is the first visual proof of landing, they're not going to pull out the main camera and take a day to send it when this will suffice

>> No.12725102

>>12725068
The rovers on Mars keep breaking. Curiosity has been there a couple years, but hasn't traveled far and we can't rely on it being the only one there since it'll break eventually too. This will be, as far as I know, the first time we have two functional rovers on mars.

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He's a very talented photographer

>> No.12725130

>>12725068
This initial picture was just to confirm it actually landed intact. Also there's probably still a ton of dust in the air where it landed. That's not the primary camera

>> No.12725146

>>12725068
Its the reverse camera. Main HD one comes on tomorrow.

>> No.12725164

>>12725068
https://mars.nasa.gov/msl/spacecraft/rover/cameras/#hazcams
This tells you why, HD images will take a while to start coming in but these low-res ones come quick

>> No.12725177

>>12725068
Because its fake.

>> No.12725183

>>12725177
Why is it fake?

>> No.12725190

>>12725068
These are the engineering cameras on it, they are intentionally basic. They will get excellent photos later this week. Also we should be seeing better pictures starting in 5ish minutes

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Where it landed

>> No.12725353

>>12725219
>fuck-huge patch of sand dunes directly between landing site and crater wall
Well that's gonna take some time to go around

>> No.12725360

>>12724806
Now they gotta pick it up.

>> No.12725707

Would have been neat if the first image was a little green (gray) man looking at the camera, fastest mission complete ever.

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>>12725353

>> No.12725740

>>12725190
no, they're hazard cameras, but yes they're not supposed to be good. they're for the rover to autonomously detect unstable/dangerous terrain when driving

>> No.12725751

>>12725353
>implying that isn't literally every single planet/moon other than earth

>> No.12725809

reckon it won't find anything but it was worth a look

>> No.12725967

turns out there's nothing but fucking dirt and rocks and no water up there
who knew
it's like there's only life on earth or something

>> No.12726017

>>12725967
>ice isn't water

>> No.12726018

>>12725967
I still like the idea of putting autonomous vehicles on other planets, rather than throwing it to a bloated military

>> No.12726117
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>>12725967

There might have been clumps of photosynthetic green slime in that lake 3 billion years ago. This could mean life easily starts in favorable conditions.

>> No.12726145

>>12725102
>This will be, as far as I know, the first time we have two functional rovers on mars.
Are you two years old?
Spirit and Opportunity were there at the same time and Opportunity was still working more than a decade after it landed while Curiosity was doing Mars stuff.

>> No.12726163

>>12726117
Or that life started on mars and was ejected and seeded earth.

>> No.12726174

>>12726163
I've always hated that idea.
It's stupid.

>> No.12726177

>>12726117
>There might have been clumps of photosynthetic green slime in that lake 3 billion years ago. This could mean life easily starts in favorable conditions.
This would be good to know.

>> No.12726459

>>12725740
Thats literally what he said

>> No.12726479

>>12726174
No its not

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>>12724755

>> No.12726616

>>12726513
Ayyyylmao

>> No.12726624

>>12726513
This meme has never been good

>> No.12726642

Are the dual cameras for capturing stereo images?

>> No.12726680

>>12725068
NASA btfo

>> No.12726684

>>12726642
I think they use it for depth sensing without all the tricks required to do that with one camera.

>> No.12726790

Why has there never been a video taken on the surface of Mars? I searched for hours of a video, only panoramics have been taken

>> No.12726821

>>12724827
>NASA has landed 9 probes on the Martian surface
>rest of world has landed zero functional probes on Martian surface

>> No.12726827

>>12726790
Garbage transfer. Honestly they should invest into Mars internet before sending all those rovers.

>> No.12726831

>>12726624
Bernie cope

>> No.12726837

When the FUCK are we getting the videos from the landing?

>> No.12726840 [DELETED] 

>>12726821
>NASA tries to justify is billion budget
>can only come up with a dried up planet
>shill this crap for decades
>all the drones support those bureaucrats spending tax payer money on a pile of dust

atheist republic is a huge mistake

I love how atheist are still upset by having not found a luxurious planet like Earth so they try to cope with hyping a crappy planet

>> No.12726842

>>12726174
It makes sense. Mars is 0.6 earth mass so it would have cooled off and formed conditions conductive to life sooner than earth. It would have been wet for long enough, before it's atmosphere and oceans were slowly ionized away.

>> No.12726846

>>12726174
They don't talk about it as much as they should because it sounds like clickbait, but the possibility that life started on Mars from abiotic processes is right up there with the possibility that life started on Earth from abiotic processes

>> No.12726848

>>12726837
They don't exactly have fibre to Mars you know. There's a reason the first images back are all low res black and white jpegs.

>> No.12726852

>>12726848
Fuck them they should've installed 5g towers in orbit

>> No.12726874

>>12726852
5g only has a range of like 10 feet

>> No.12726968
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>>12726513
gtfo redditor

>> No.12727097

>>12726831
>muh old jew is funneh
go away

>> No.12727098

>>12726790
they literally just did

>> No.12727108

>>12727098
Link?

>> No.12727134

>>12724741
Couldn't they put a better camera on this thing? Like what the fuck.

>> No.12727153

>>12727134
They did, but the mast it's on is still folded up. That's a hazard avoidance camera.

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>> No.12727196

>>12727108
it hasn't been recieved yet but they videoed the landing and they can video with the newer cameras

>> No.12727384

personally i hope they don't find anything, when the second probe arrives in 2026 to recover the sample i don't want some alien pathogen to be introduced here, though i would be happy if they found traces of ice which would be useful for future colonisation/terraforming

>> No.12727389

>>12727384
Finding an alien pathogen would be the biggest scientific discovery of all time. Worth.

>> No.12727390

>>12727108
The video is on the rover's hard drive, but upload speed from Mars is 1kb/s so it's gonna take a while.

>> No.12727396

>>12727389
They found it the first landing with viking

>> No.12727397

>>12727390
It should be significantly faster when using MRO as intermediary, tho. Up to 2 megabits/s
(so around 250 KB/s)

>> No.12727400

>>12727397
That's the MRO-rover connection. MRO-Earth connection is still pitiful.

>> No.12727406

>>12727400
Are you sure? It was my understanding that MRO can do up to up 4 to megabits.
Also I think I saw the downlink yesterday at the DSN page doing 2 Mbits. What portion was "from the rover" I don't know of course.

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>>12727406
>up to up 4 to megabits
excuse me

>> No.12727426

>>12727396
>>>/x/ is that way

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>>12724741
AI upscale

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>>12727432

>> No.12727476

A fucking wasteland
We're doomed, doomed i tell ya

>> No.12727483

>>12726513
i think it's funny :)

>> No.12727488

>>12727476
earth has a magnetosphere
come down, faggot

>> No.12727497

Came to this board to find the colour photos but I guess there aren't any yet
see you guys tomorrow then

>> No.12727507

>>12726174
> 277 meteorites have been classified as Martian
We've only been looking for them since the 80's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martian_meteorite

>> No.12727512

>>12727184
kek

>> No.12727517
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Untucc time for rover

>>12727497
I suppose the drone has been sleeping.

Just now it is dawn for it. Pic in my simulator.

MRO should also enter communications range with it in less than an hour

>> No.12727520

>>12727476
>looking at what is instead of what could be
Sorry there's no second Terran planet right next to us, anon. Got to make do with what we have.

>> No.12727522

>>12727517
for visualization purposes: the rover would be on the mid-lower right side of the pic, behind the end of the ridge that extends from the farthest of the two very-similar dark craters you can see.

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>>12726513
I'm asking you once again to
GET YOUR ASS ON MARS!

>> No.12727532

>>12727517
ps: when it comes to MRO, I'm not sure what it will do, because it is going to enter the nightside of Mars

>> No.12727545

>>12727184
lmao
Mars is already bogged

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>>12724741
Why after decades of technological evolution in Cameras those Mars photos are BLURRED , black&white, and still look like SHIT?

Come on!
It isn't 1969 anymore. Apollo 11 mission 's Potato Image quality level is unacceptable in current day and age.

Even old iPhones (7,8,9...) have better Camera image quality.

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>>12725360
[SOUND OF MECHANICAL ARMS RUBBING]

>> No.12727670

>>12727575
>Why after decades of technological evolution in Cameras those Mars photos are BLURRED , black&white, and still look like SHIT?
https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/spacecraft/instruments/
They now have more important data to send back to Earth rather than colorful images for fags.
The purpose of that camera is to check if the rover landed successfully.

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that doesn't look too bad

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>>12727792
We are currently uploading something throu the low gain antenna, directly.

>> No.12727808

>>12727792
btw I don't think MRO is currently in communication with Perseverance. Unless radio waves refract very optimally on the Martian atmosphere, I'd say it's out of range for the next 5 hours.

>> No.12727827

>>12727390
>The video is on the rover's hard drive
I've been wondering what data storage capability the rover has.
Does it hold a bunch of SSDs?

>> No.12727835

>>12727799
>15bit/s
wew.
This takes barely any power, right? The efficiency considerations for a mission like this are very interesting.

>> No.12727843

>>12727827
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_embedded_computer_systems_on_board_the_Mars_rovers

>> No.12727847

>>12727835
I suppose, it's also receive-only, for the rover. The advantage is that it is omnidirectional.

It has another direct communication antenna. That one is directional (needs to be pointed), but can receive and upload, and can do up to 3kbit/s.

Then there is the fastest one, 2 megabits, but only works with martian satellites (MRO for example)

>> No.12727849

>>12727827
2gb flash memory
keep in mind it's hardened for radiation so it's way more expensive and not as current

>> No.12727850

>>12727400
Mars uplink from MRO is like two megabits

>> No.12727858

>>12727835
>This takes barely any power, right?

>Power Transmitted
>17 kW
You can cook a bird before it hits the ground with that.

>> No.12727861

>>12727827
I think they are still using the same tech as the last rovers so flash. Not your normal kind as it has to survive the extreme cold on the surface and increased radiation. Same for the cpu and ram. They are all special hardened components.

>> No.12727865

>>12727858
that's on the DSN Antenna, on earth, it's a big thing.

For the rover that would be impossible, needless to say.

>> No.12728466

>>12727849
Honestly think the main reason for cost is because it's boing selling them to govt customers. Rad hardening isn't too difficult. They still have to do a lot on the software side to catch all the inevitable bitflips from cosmic rays. Even hardened aviation chips on Earth do it.

The energy budget is so tight they need keep everything to the minimum, more cpu/ram/storage is just wasted energy. The power source can't sustain the onboard computer even while the rover is doing nothing else so it needs to turn off for hours at a time to let the batteries charge.
Batteries are shit like that too, you don't want to drain them too much, it wrecks their lifespan.

>> No.12728477

>>12724775
this.

>> No.12728636

>>12724775
I do anon. I've got a planetary science fetish. Literally can't get my rocks off if I'm not looking at pictures of alien rocks. I even put an onahole into some foam rocks so I can pretend that I'm the rover drilling into rocks

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na speed

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Descent shot

>> No.12728872

>>12728808
S-sauce?

>> No.12728882

>>12728872
https://twitter.com/NASAPersevere/status/1362825545227018240?s=20

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new one just uploaded

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>> No.12729004

>>12728992
Cool rocks. I hope they find bugs in there.

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>>12727861
If mars is really cold can't you overclock your cpu?

>> No.12729107

>>12727843
>>12727849
crazy, I expected it to have a lot more storage space to hold all the SCIENCE N SHIET. no wonder they preserve resources for setting shit up instead of transmitting hi-res meme pictures right out of the gate.

>> No.12729364

>>12728808
Landing video is going to be cool. Going to be a long time to send all the pics back. Probably won't even start sending them back until they do a bunch of health checks. Would be nice to see the sky crane flying off and crashing, but that camera would go dead once the umbilical detached.

>> No.12729389

>>12727843
The helicopter has a cellphone cpu which is vastly more powerful than the rover, but its not radiation hardened.

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>>12725102
>anon, why are you fucking retarded?

>> No.12729406

>>12728895
mexico?

>> No.12729424

>>12725219
It's actually a dried up river
That's why they landed it there, to investigate for life

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>>12727184
Fucking hell you got me

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>>12724741
amogus detected on mars

>> No.12729458

>>12728992

Look at those holes. Wind doesn't do that kind of shit to rocks. Ancient coral maybe?

>> No.12729461

>>12728992
>>12728895
If those are carbonates then it's life confirmed

>> No.12729474

>>12726821
diversity is our strength

>> No.12729544
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>>12729458
>>12729461

Don't get your hopes up guys

>> No.12729556

>>12729458
aren't those done by bubbles bursting when the rock is still (partly) liquid?

>> No.12729616

>>12729544
Wouldn't wind erosion even be possible?

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>>12729438

>> No.12729635

>>12729556
Yeah exactly

>> No.12729666

>>12729544
They did find carbonate rich rocks there through MRO which is one of the reasons why Perseverance landed there in the first place. They are associated with olivine so it could be serpentinized. The interesting thing is that on Earth these are associated with ancient stromatolites

>> No.12730074

>>12729458
yeah water does, definite signs of surface water previously or a type of pumice

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>>12724827
First images from hazard cams.. low res shit just to see quickly if it's sitting in a pothole or something awful. Higher resolution images are coming, relax.

>> No.12730160

>>12724741

fake and gay, it's in Canada

>> No.12730166

>>12729389
Friend of mine subcontracted the legs on the helicopter. Made from very lightweight carbon fiber sticks used in kite making.

>> No.12730175

I am appalled at how little difference there is between this thread and the one on /x/.

>> No.12730206

>>12730175
What are you talking about? I just went to take a look and the /x/ thread has more actual science in it.

>> No.12730207

>>12730175
seethe

>> No.12730332

>>12724827
>chinese release video
Source? I want to watch it.

>> No.12730342

People saying the earth is flat, that space is fake, and that the mars mission is fake are making me really angry. I am genocidal at this point.

>> No.12730354

>>12730342
Why care about their views at all? Talking to an idiot helps no one.

>> No.12730403

>>12724741
Can someone explain to me how the parachute worked on Mars when it doesn't have an atmosphere? I can't find an answer online and I know there has to be a logical answer

>> No.12730416

>>12730403
>Can someone explain to me how the parachute worked on Mars when it doesn't have an atmosphere?
Mars does have an atmosphere, it's just way thinner:
Atmosphere: 96% carbon dioxide, 1.9% nitrogen, 1.9% argon, 0.2% trace gases
Atmospheric pressure at the surface: 6.35 mbar (less than one hundredth of Earth’s atmospheric pressure)
https://www.esa.int/Science_Exploration/Human_and_Robotic_Exploration/Exploration/ExoMars/Meet_Mars

>> No.12730428

>>12730416
That makes sense, thank you

>> No.12730453

>>12730403
Well, it wasn't a parachute for one thing.

>> No.12730470

>>12730156
Its going to take a long time to get all the landing data send back with all the cameras that were operating. One looking up at the parachute, one looking down at the rover, one on the rover looking down at the ground, another on the rover looking up at the skycrane. Microphone was recording as well.

>> No.12730475

>>12730403
I think they just put it inside of a beach ball or something and let it bounce until it eventually stops bouncing

>> No.12730516

>>12730403
The parachute was to slow it down, but not enough to land. The rover itself had a jet pack attached to it to slow it rest of the way. Just above the ground the jet pack lowered the rover the last little bit to the ground before disconnecting and fucking off somewhere to crash.

The picture of the rover further up in the thread is it hanging from the descent cables.

>> No.12730519

>>12728992
that's pretty much ayy lmaos confirmed, these rocks have a flat side indicating that they are indeed sedimentary and were probably part of a bigger rock, so these might be stromatolite fragments. we'll have fossil ayys confirmed in less than 20 sols.

>> No.12730531

>>12728808
*goosebumps*

>> No.12730533

>>12728808
skycranes are so fucking rad

>> No.12730553

>>12730533
What happens to the rest of the craft? I know it flies off and lands out of the way but is it used for anything after that?

>> No.12730566

>>12730553
Just Mars litter like the heat shield and parachute.

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>>12727184
kek

>> No.12730588

>>12727799
>7.16 GHz
Why?

>> No.12730654
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12730654

Video coming in 2 days heres the first image

>> No.12730657

>>12727384
Even if that ever happened, still, the pathogen would have been severely weakened thanks to millions of years of harsh radiation exposure, that added to the fact that any martian microbial ayys would be primitive in comparison, so the damage they could cause would be insignificant and in return they would be destroyed by our inmune system in no time; I would say they pose no threat at all.

>> No.12730677

>>12730553
as a museum exhibit 100 years down the line

>> No.12730998

>>12730206
Yeah. I was being kind.

>> No.12731678

>>12727530
shit meme

>> No.12731719

>>12727670
>>12727575
They will have great pics when the camera tower is raised

>> No.12731982

>>12724741
Daily reminder: Mars orbiters have bandwidth of 250 KB/s (2Mbit/sec)

>> No.12732000

>>12727865
Also, there are no birds on Mars.

>> No.12732180

>>12731982
Lol I had those speeds a couple of years ago

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>>12731982
>20-40 minutes latency

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>>12731678

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>>12724741
How can images """taken in 2021""" have the URL that it was taken in march 2020??????

>> No.12732250

>>12730175
I'm more appalled that someone on /sci/ visits also /x/.
Even if I know I shouldn't, that's the state of the board.

>> No.12732258

>>12732246
DONT ASK QUESTIONS BIGOT

>> No.12732272

>>12732246
checkmate atheists

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>>12724741
Twitter of head of the Roskosmos corporation: "The first thing that the Americans saw on Mars"

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>>12732275
The Progress MS-16 space truck was supposed to dock to the Pirs module in automatic mode, but about 20 meters to the station, cosmonaut Sergei Ryzhikov switched Progress to manual control.

>> No.12732279
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>>12732275
The crushing shop partially collapsed at the Norilsk beneficiation plant

>> No.12732281
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>>12725219
What am I missing about why it wouldn't have been much safer landing here?

>> No.12732298

>>12732281
Safety isn't the only priority

>> No.12732311

>>12727861
Interestingly, Ingenuity seems to be running mostly off the shelf stuff,

>> No.12732321

>>12730516
>fucking off somewhere to crash.

I have to wonder if it really had to do this. If it nearly touched down before killing the engines, surely a camera and radio could have survived.

>> No.12732391

>>12732246
Maybe directory was created last year?

>> No.12732441

The first time they chose a decent landing site instead of planting the rover in barren wasteland.
All of the alternatives to the Jezero crater have been horrible.

>> No.12732524

>>12732311
If you have a proven stable design then ingenuity comes with a lot of risk.

>> No.12732539
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They're going to find smol ayylmaos in the groundwater

>> No.12732559

>>12732275
Have the Russian's ever landed anything on Mars that has worked?

>> No.12732596

>>12732559
Russian peoples are crunched of this tweet

>> No.12732602

>>12732596
And cringed too

>> No.12732618

>>12732275
Lie.

>> No.12732659

>>12732618
He has already deleted, but the Internet remembers everything

>> No.12732735
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>>12732559
Why so much talk about some small country?

>> No.12732975

>>12732735
we will never know the answer

>> No.12732991

>>12728992
What the fuck is that? I've seen that rock type around beaches.

>> No.12733534

>>12726163
Why? Why the fuck would earth need "seeding"?
There is no other planet with more ideal conditions for abiogenesis than earth

>> No.12733646

>>12730553
it is using all its remaining fuel to get as far away as possible until it runs out and crashes. its sole purpose was to put down the rover

>> No.12733671

>>12724741
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YlUKcNNmywk
>the future is made in a Hollywood basement

>> No.12733786

>>12732281
Projected landing zone is about 5km diameter.
They really have no idea and the skycrane just chooses the safest area it can.

>> No.12733976

>>12728992

OH SHIT THE ROCK HAS HOLES WHERE THERE IS NO ROCK

THE ROCK IS SIMULTANEOUSLY ROCK AND NOT ROCK

MACROSCOPIC QUANTUM EFFECTS CONFIIIIIIRMED!

>> No.12734021
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>> No.12734030
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>> No.12734035
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>> No.12734043

>>12734030
>that mini machine gun for killing ayys
nice pics

>> No.12734044
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>> No.12734073

>>12725105
Its photoshop

>> No.12734101

>great feat of engineering
>people use it to make memes about american politics

>> No.12734117
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>> No.12734309

About 28,000 images taken during the descent between all the cameras.

>> No.12734325

was the sky crane purely a delivery system?

>> No.12734329

>>12724775
>>12728477
get lost

>>>/int/

>> No.12734367

>>12734325

What if the rovers are just a distraction and the sky crane is the real experiment

>> No.12734376

>>12734021

THERE GOES MY HERO, WATCH HIM AS HE GOES

>> No.12734398
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I thought this image of the software for the landing was pretty neat.

>> No.12734405

>>12727184
>B O G G E D

>> No.12735727

>>12724741
>totally not Nevada, trust us

>> No.12735749

>>12727575
Yeah try send photo over thousands miles across the galaxy you think it is like sending photos on Facebook ?

>> No.12735762

>>12735749
>across the galaxy

>> No.12736091

>>12724791
Mars is Hyperborea.

>> No.12736151

>>12726842
Dennis Farina did a good Unsolved Mysteries segment on that theory. It is compelling.

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>>12727575
You'll have your HD pics in a week faglord.
First the dust from the landing needs to settle down. Then after running diagnostics, the different cameras and equipments will be slowly brought online. Then the pictures will have to be uploaded to the orbiter and transmitted to Earth.

Whole process should take about a week.

>> No.12736218

I love this. In all honesty I never had the fetish for Mars but I was always interested in Venus. Apparently it was once like earth until the greenhouse effect got out of control and now it’s a hellish landscape. A cool fact is that earth will eventually resemble Venus many billions of years into the future. Also, the origins of our planet is interesting too, it was once so hostile to life and now it’s full of it. Planets are great to learn about because you realize how amazing the universe is.

>> No.12736493

>>12732559
Russia prefers difficult things like landing on Venus, not this Nancy boy shit like Mars. Every country and their dogs are going for Mars these days, bunch of faggots and girls.
Time for my morning dip in sub-zero temps in my local river while you Texan fags cant cope with a little temperature dip and snow.

>> No.12736494
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tick tock nasa... I'm waiting.

>> No.12736597

>>12730156
>PIXL is just a glorified selfie sticks
This is how you know space is fake.

>> No.12736612

>>12726821
Well half the world has landed their personal probe in your mom. So what now.

>> No.12736630

>>12728808
This is what it looks like when you don't clamp and circumcize, just clean natural umbilical 3/3 oxygen supply.

>> No.12736690

>>12727184
>He landed?

>> No.12737005

Just think about how we got to this point in the history of the human race. How many people are looking into a hole recently drilled on another fuckin planet with a device small enough to fit in your pocket. This is insane. This is Science. And I f*cking love it!

>> No.12737011

>>12726513
Hilarious! How do I upvote this?

>> No.12737046

>>12725068
it's called BANDWIDTH retard. Go back to your anime board.

>> No.12737049

>>12732275
jesus christ that fucking guy

>> No.12737051

>>12734117
>it entered the atmosphere?
>crash it!

>> No.12737056

>NASA tries to justify its billion budget
>can only come up with a dried up planet
>shill this mars crap for decades
>all the drones support those bureaucrats spending tax payer money on a pile of dust


I love how atheists are still upset by having not found a luxurious planet like Earth so they try to cope with hyping a crappy planet

the atheist republic is a huge mistake

>> No.12737058

>>12736186
>a week
tomorrow, monday, 2pm ET. video and hd pics. Why is everyone talking out their ass on this fking board?

>> No.12737065

>>12737056
Yes, so much worse than a christianopatic society that kisses a wooden plus sign until they die like worthless animals hoping that their rotting brain cells will somehow live on in some boring afterlife lmao. Kys.

>> No.12738216

>>12737056
>luxurious planet like Earth
Don't worry, it'll all be ruined by the climate change in the next century.
>a crappy planet
From your uneducated perspective.
>the atheist republic is a huge mistake
I really like thinking about the past. Over 2 thousand years ago there were no Christianity or Jesus, over 10 thousand years ago there were no Judaism and the first civilizations were to emerge. 500 thousand years ago humans had half the brain volume of Homo sapiens and 4 million years ago we were barely different from other apes. Going back in time 450 million years the first Tetrapods and plants started colonizing the land and 1 billion years ago only Bacteria, Archea and single-cellular Eucaryota were living in the ocean. Earth is 4.5 billion years old, the visible universe is 13.6 billion years old.
Your religion seems so small compared to it - it is only 1.47 * 10^-7 of all this time. I understand why some of you like to pretend Earth is only 6 thousand years, if you didn't do that you would quickly realize how unimportant and small it is compared to other religions or events in the natural history.

>> No.12738231

>>12728895
devon island, canada

>> No.12738280

>>12734044
Can someone PS Darth Vader into that?

>> No.12738470

>>12724741
per has this science thing that collects samples and in years some other rover will collect it and shoot it back to earth . Will it be faster then Our lord and saviour Elon's first man on mars ?

>> No.12738475

>>12724806
I guess the jews will go to mars now

>> No.12740789

>>12726821
Wrong, the US wasn't even the first nation to do a successful soft landing on Mars.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_landings_on_extraterrestrial_bodies

>> No.12740792

>>12737046
Shut your fucking mouth you piece of shit. I will cut off both of your arms and beat you to death with them, fucking nigger. Now keep quiet, beta bitch.

>> No.12740832

>>12728808
I am curious how camera was positioned on the landing module. Judging by these three cables it was on some arm but you additionally have that fourth cable with a wire.

>> No.12740839

>>12728992
Some lava shit not sponge.

>> No.12740940

>>12734376
THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST

>> No.12741231

>>12732246
>https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/spacecraft/instruments/

This URL is because Perseverance's name, before becoming Perseverance, was Mars2020 or Mars 2020 Rover.

Covid delayed.

>> No.12741281
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Some structures close to the landing site.
(~200-150 m perpendicular from the long straight "crack" to the landing site)

The plaques seem to be 3-9 metres across (size)

>> No.12741295 [DELETED] 

>>12741281
different contrast (not exactly the same position)

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>>12741281
different contrast (not identical position, I know)

>> No.12741323

>>12741301
looks like human skin

>> No.12741523

>>12740789
Considering they could only confirm it was alive for about 2 minutes after landing, how did they know it was a "soft" landing? If it came in hard and damaged it's batteries or some other power control, it could have functioned long enough to say it made it before dying.
I'm legit curious, I'm fascinated with automated mechatronics, I couldn't find any info on what kind of landing data they have on it.

>> No.12741530

>>12741323
Nigga wash yo ass.

>> No.12741535

>>12724741
>2021
>grainy black and white photos in the era of super hd photography
They really think we're stupid and dont even try to hide their fake photos of earth.

>> No.12741542
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They dumped a bunch of new hazcam images from Saturday and Sunday on https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/multimedia/raw-images/
Nothing too interesting but at least it's being posted

>> No.12741560

>>12741535
radiation kill earth chips my friend

>> No.12741572

>>12741535
Yeah man, they didn't count on you being so damn smart.

>> No.12741623

>>12741231
No anon it's a conspiracy, NASA is competent enough to fake the whole thing successfully but they are too stupid to realize the url has the wrong year giving away the secret

>this is what schizos actually believe

>> No.12741643

This shit is better than sex

>> No.12741648

>>12741643
>This shit is better than sex
t. incel

>> No.12741652

>>12741648
t. <90 iq

>> No.12741658

>>12741652
t. gay

>> No.12741924

>>12741301
when will nasa confirm (past) life on mars? it's so fucking obvious at this point that it's nerve wrecking

>> No.12741940

>>12741924
>obvious
huh?

>> No.12742001

>>12741924
>when will nasa confirm (past) life on mars?
When they find evidence, that's how science works.
Evolution takes time and Mars not necessarily had enough time.

>> No.12742003

NASA press event with more pics and video in 20 min
https://youtu.be/gYQwuYZbA6o

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>>12742003
IT HAS STARTED!

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>>12742003
>>12742083
Jesus christ it's a fucking femenoid again. It's all so tiresome

>> No.12742105

>>12742091
Have sex incel

>> No.12742127

>>12742003
can they shut the fuck up and show up the news and pics, we DO NOT GIVE A FUCKING SHIT ABOUT YOUR FAGGOT DAUGHTER AND HER CHILDHOOD CAMERA, HOLY FUCKKKKK

>> No.12742153

>>12742105
Post address then

>> No.12742156

>>12742127
I'd fuck her in the stinker and cream her in the pinker if you know what I mean

>> No.12742170

https://www.twitch.tv/nasa

>> No.12742174

now's the landing video

>> No.12742181

KINO

>> No.12742184

>>12742174
and it's over

>> No.12742190

>>12742184
How long till next rover?

>> No.12742203

>no audio
another fucking chance wasted, you had one fucking job NASA

>> No.12742205

What was that camera that went directly into the rocks before the rover landed?

>> No.12742210

>>12742184
Actually they go step by step explaining shit

>> No.12742227

What's the name of the guy talking now and what is this accent. He gives a vibe like an engineer from Star Trek lol

>> No.12742234

Discussing the footage and the mission will be:

Thomas Zurbuchen, associate administrator for the Science Mission Directorate, NASA Headquarters
Michael Watkins, director, NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL)
Matt Wallace, Perseverance deputy project manager, JPL
Al Chen, Perseverance entry, descent, and landing lead, JPL
Dave Gruel, Perseverance EDL camera lead, JPL
Justin Maki, Perseverance imaging scientist and instrument operations team chief, JPL
Jessica Samuels, Perseverance surface mission manager, JPL
Ken Williford, Perseverance deputy project scientist, JPL

>> No.12742293

Landing Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4czjS9h4Fpg

>> No.12742298

>>12742227
Shut the fuck up fuckin racist. This is NOT /pol/

>> No.12742315

Mars Audio
https://mars.nasa.gov/system/downloadable_items/45705_1st_Sounds_from_Mars_includes_rover_self-noise.wav
https://mars.nasa.gov/system/downloadable_items/45704_1st_Sounds_from_Mars_filters_out_rover_self-noise.wav

>> No.12742316

So when will they start drilling and anal-yzing that virgin mars pucci?

>> No.12742319

>>12742227
Not all scientists are burgers.

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>> No.12742372

>>12742293
Better looking than their live stream press conference. The live stream itself has some compression degradation going on.

>> No.12742377

>>12742298
is that even racist or am I getting baited/

>> No.12742382

COPTER WHEN

>> No.12742397

>>12742377
You pointed out he has a characteristic accent and then went on to compere him with a comedic side kick in a sci fi movie. How can you not see the racism in that? Your not funny or "edgy" if that's what you think. Just stupid and cringe

>> No.12742398

>>12742382
Heard on a scott manley vid it's gonna be a month before the first flight, so don't get your hopes up

>> No.12742408

>>12742397
you're a faggot
take your baiting to /b/

>> No.12742409
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>> No.12742415

>>12742382
Will it shoot a video?

>> No.12742417
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>>12742397
it wasn't me but comparing someone's accent to someone in a comedic role is not racism. did you know people of the same ethnicity often sound the same. i still feel like I'm getting baited tho

>> No.12742432

>>12742408
Come on, make fun of the guy who's talking tight now. I know you're itching to make him look like a fool. Come on and give us a laugh on his expense

>> No.12742434

>>12742397
reddit hands typed this.

>> No.12742438

>>12742409
what is the purpose of those colored dots?

>> No.12742448

>>12742438
https://mastcamz.asu.edu/mars-in-full-color/

>> No.12742454

>>12742438
colour calibration i think, i am talking out of my ass tho.

>> No.12742458

>>12742298
>>12742397
>>12742426
You are all morons. I actually meant David Gruel, and he sounded like characters from St TOS. There was zero racism in the post.

>> No.12742465

>>12742448
>>12742454
thanks anons.

>> No.12742477

>sap stories
>le blovating
>tHiS iS sO HiSToRicaL!

God fuck corporate/bureaucracy and their diarrhea sophist mouths just get to the science.

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>>12742417
G-guys?

>> No.12742488
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>> No.12742491

/sci/ is such an unscientific board. I like the vids tho

>> No.12742492

>>12742480
ayy lmao

>> No.12742498

>>12742491
>/sci/ is such an unscientific board
why

>> No.12742502

>>12742480
It's a fucking homen SKULL!

>> No.12742508

>>12742480
This is your own skull anon. Don't ask. You know your future.

>> No.12742509

No audio during landing because the ADC crashed.

>> No.12742514

>>12742488
Lol, look how warped it is. Why do people unironically fall for this shit? Is it love IQ or cognitive dissonance or aybe midwitism?

>> No.12742520

>>12742509
>ADC
?

>> No.12742528

>>12742477
yep, they had this vid ready days ago and spent this time setting up this bs studio and getting these talking points and personal stories ready that no one wants to hear. just fucking release a pdf doc with a technical report and the raw images asap and go have your circlejerk session a week later.

>> No.12742532

>>12742520
He probably means the opposite of DAC.

>> No.12742533

Who cares about space. Show me the deep sea

>> No.12742534

>>12742514
some low tier bait, like scraping the bottom of the barrel shit. please go >>>/b/ ack

>> No.12742542

>>12742315
Man, it's just bass.
I love it.

>> No.12742548

>>12742480
Is that a rock?!?!? AN ACTUAL ROCK???? ON MARS?!?!?!??!

>> No.12742594

>>12742514
>he doesn't know what panorama is

>> No.12742599

"it's real
it's definitely real
i promise it's real
it's real"
-NASA

>> No.12742606
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>> No.12742609

>>12742599
"It would take a long time to animate all these details"

Jesus Christ, it's really ogre, isn't it?

>> No.12742610

i browse reddit
i browse facebook
i browse 9gag
i format my posts like i'm on reddit through muscle memory
i have schizophrenia
i have autism
-anon

>> No.12742613
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>> No.12742625

>>12742480

The landing rockets blew shit all over.

>> No.12742631

>>12742613
There has to be at least one geology fag posting here. Is that granite?

>> No.12742650

>>12742613
is that bad? wouldn't stuff accumulate in there anyways with wind and all?

>> No.12742651

>>12732226
Good enough to play Civ on a multi-day game.

>> No.12742657

>>12732246
the rover was launched last year and they put the image in the project URL they created in 2020, retard

>> No.12742661

>>12733671
To think I thought those graphics were cutting edge when that came out. Even the fucking PS2 could do better.

>> No.12742664
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https://mars.nasa.gov/system/downloadable_items/45706_PIA24333.jpg

>> No.12742697

>>12742631
Can't say a lot from these pictures but this landing spot was chosen for the carbonate bearing rocks identified by MRO. So It's likely altered olivine bearing rocks and the phenocrysts have been serpentinized or turned to talk and weathered away giving it that pitted appearance. What's exciting is that similar rocks found on earth of a similar age are associated with stromatolites.

>> No.12742716

>>12742664
good, these are some nice spare parts if somebody is stuck on Mars like in The Martian

>> No.12742718

>>12742613
I foresee NASA's next Mars rover wheel problem....

>> No.12742725

>>12742613
why not making perforated wheels? they're going to fill with rocks and dirt... or is that irrelevant?

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>>12742409
someone edit pic related onboard the top of the rover's deck, please

>> No.12742742

>>12742650
the debris will start bouncing off the wheels once the rover starts moving

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>>12742664

>> No.12743060

>>12743057
Meant for >>12742613

>> No.12743080

touchdown video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4czjS9h4Fpg

>> No.12743380
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>>12742488
OH GOOOOOOOD PLEASE LOOK AT ALL THAT SHIT JUST WAITING FOR ME AND MY SHOVEL FUUUUUUUUUCK I WANT TO DIG MARS SO BADLY BROS

>>12742514
NIGGER

>> No.12744724

>>12742205
You mean the heat shield, homie?

That was the circular thing that came off the rover and landed in some nearby rocks.

>> No.12744741

>>12732000
>No birds on mara
Source on that absurd claim?