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orthopaedic surgery edition

previous thread >>12711569
We discuss research, DO NOT offer advice (just fucking go see your doctor) make fun of premeds and shitpost. Please keep vaccination/clamping/vitamin K out of this thread and start your own because it takes a lot of space.
>>inb4 not science
>>inb4 poor amerimutts wanting medical advice

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>>12724192

>> No.12724365

>>12724305
post body

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>> No.12724386

How come every Medicine General turns out into either an aesthetics thread or a sex thread? Unoriginal retards.

>> No.12724435

>>12724386
Because sometimes some skele manlet posts
>or a sex thread
The Scandi anon posts about fucking nurses every so often

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>>12724306

>> No.12724458

>>12724438
much improved anon
Anesthesiology should be way more aryan though

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>>12724438
wrong version

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>>12724192
>>12724359
>mfw a manlet medic speaks and tries to be heard
You just KNOW their only reason for getting into medicine is because they think money (lol) and status (lol) will get them laid.

>> No.12724517

>>12724438
>neuro still so high

>> No.12724525

>>12724435
>muh testosterone
Burn hard, burn fast, faggot. Be sure to die while I have only lived half my life.

>> No.12724537

>>12724492
>le coomer face

>> No.12724564

>>12724525
We probably have very similar jobs, which means we are basically equal.
The only difference is that if I wanted to rape you you could do nothing to stop me because you do not value strenght.

The nurses laugh at you anon, the ward twink

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>>12724492

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>>12724438
>>12724487
>>12724517

neuro is down where it belongs. The chad surgery brings neuro up though - sorry, I don't make the rules

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>>12724564

>> No.12724583

>>12724492
You are right but you posted an anime pic so your opinion is discarded

>> No.12724595

>>12724578
Finally accurate placement of ane

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>>12724578
>chad makes something more aryan

>> No.12724603

>>12724583
No he ain't right, you're just as much a faggot as he is

>> No.12724611

Who's the fucking ana-chan who said 1,200 kcal a day is enough for men?

>> No.12724614

>>12724564
We will never be equal, coomer. You are an intellectual midget.

>> No.12724618

>>12724600
Theres a clear difference between the socially well versed public jew (neuro surg), versus the cryptojew (psych). Basically, neurosurg will have gilded instruments that have diamond blades and the whole time his handing chain plucks out a little jew chest hair and it lands in your smooth little brain

>> No.12724620

>>12724611
some emaciated skele that will outlive us all

>> No.12724628

>>12724306
How can pain be measured, how is it determined to be excessive or not?

Take working out or a physical job as an example. I would expect pain and soreness for the first few weeks as a body adjusts but this should subside. If after 12 weeks of this physical routine the pains keep getting worse, is there something wrong?

What is one meant to do if the average doctor doesn't appear to have a clue what the next step should be? What language to use? I know that even the smallest mention of a fact you found online will kill their doctor-boner and they will be even more unhelpful.

Are arthritis blood tests reliable? Is fibromyalgia real?

>> No.12724637

>>12724614
If I can physically dominate you and we have the same title that makes me superior you retard
>If you're so smart, why can I crush you like a bug?

also post body, I can recommend you lifts

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>>12724628
back into your hole

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>>12724525
>2015
>he doesn't lift and live life to it's fullest
were you bullied in school, are you retarded or both?
>bu-bu-but you will die from it
So? Is life a competion about who lives the longest?

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>>12724637
hello, /fat/ here

>> No.12724669

>>12724618
the chad jew is the plastic surgeon

>> No.12724674

>>12724659
based fattie helping the thread twink bulk up

>> No.12724685

>>12724611
For men with normal height and normal muscular complexion. Obviously, you should add calories according to your particular complexion, as well as according to the exercise load. I didn't think you guys would be such brainlets that I'd need to say that.

>> No.12724698

>repostan
Is this considered barrel chested? 25 and been smoking pot for 2 years. Breathing is fine, no pain or struggle. I mean, I've had a shitty nose all my life so my breathing is probably more laboured than usual but it's normal for me. Width is 11 inches and 8.5-9 inches exhale and inhale at the narrowist point. Is that abnormal when most chests should be a 2:1 ratio for width to depth? Just curious if that's weird for proportions.

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>>12724525
well, due to gravitational dilatation, time does progress slower closer to the ground, I'll give you that

>> No.12724704

>>12724637
>If I can physically dominate you and we have the same title that makes me superior
What kind of a doctor are you? You sound like a brainlet

>> No.12724705

>>12724639

Are functional muscles and bones illegal here?

>> No.12724710

>>12724458
wrong 10000% because Crit Care puts anaesthesia down there.

>> No.12724722

>>12724637
>If I can physically dominate you and we have the same title that makes me superior you retard

Try dominating me when I'm coated in a layer of cyanide enhanced petroleum jelly

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>>12724685
>men with normal height
>5' 7''

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>>12724705

>> No.12724732

>>12724656
Didn't you know? Life is literally about who survives the longest. It's no coincidence that the center of our fears is death, and every other fear is connected to that one.

You are nothing but an addict to your own pleasure hormones, but when the end comes, you'll regret not being more careful. Proceed to death, please.

>> No.12724738

>>12724685
lmao I'm a 5'3 moid and that shit's still a deficit for me

>> No.12724749

>>12724732
lurk moar

>> No.12724765

>>12724726
>How can pain be measured, how is it determined to be excessive or not?
>Are arthritis blood tests reliable? Is fibromyalgia real?

Objective shitposting opportunities are right here

>> No.12724768

>>12724738
What do you mean by "deficit" exactly? That you feel hungry? Hunger is not an indicator of anything, particularily on fat people.

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>>12724732
If you talk to some trad religions, they all look forward to death. Heaven sounds a lot better than suffering with the eternal jew on earth. Honestly, I never see atheists live with such spiritual peace, they're always trying to fill some kind of void - their words not mine. I don't hear that complaint from the faithful. Literally, who would want to endure another year of western propaganda

ALSO tmw no satanic jews will be in heaven.

>> No.12724777

>>12724770
Religion isn't biology. Religion is nothing but an anxiety management tool for idiots.

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>>12724738

>> No.12724790

>>12724704
Anesthesiology

>> No.12724801

>>12724770
I'm an atheist and I feel content. Isn't that void the reason why you /fit/ retards keep wanting more muscle mass? To get attention from females and fill that "void"?

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>>12724777
Shalom, Rabbi.

Biology is the study of life. Guess who made everything?

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>>12724732
>he is too scared of death to eat

>> No.12724826

>>12724810
>Guess who made everything?
Who? The god that was created by another god,that was created by another god,that was created by another god,that was created by another god,that was created by another god... (ad infinitum)?

Spare me the logical paradox.

>> No.12724831

Inshallah, these generals have gone to shit.

>> No.12724835

>>12724801
survivor bias. Also no, I don't need vein women to satisfy anything in my life. They only bring problems and they're a money pit. I'm with some woman now who isn't chasing after a pension, or wasting her early life in school. The books and degree will be there after we have kids. I liked the way she thought, and she wants me to lead the relationship as muchas I want to. Everything is easy with her honestly, trad women are gold. The kicker is, you have to be trad yourslf to enjoy this stability. Heh, anyway... She's calling me to the other room so she can rub my back. Later premeds

>> No.12724842

4chan is a shithole, in general, /pol/'s corruptive indoctrination has spread everywhere

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>>12724835
Hahah, nice larp incel. You will never get a tradwife.

>> No.12724862

Surgeon called me babyface during rounds. Does this mean he wants to fuck? Doctor husband is the equivalent of having an MD, r-right?

>> No.12724865

>>12724831
yup. we need a height limit

>> No.12724870

>>12724865
Gotta post physique before posting about nutrition.

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>>12724855
silly willy... he clearly stated he has left the https

>> No.12724892

>imagine being a sub 90kg "male"

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>>12724891
I thought your made up anime tradwife was gonna give you a back rub

>> No.12724904

Are racial diets a meme? There's been emerging evidence regarding links between the bacterial cells in our body and health implications. I understand certain bacteria "prefer" to digest certain foods over others. Given races have become accustomed to certain foods over generations, should their racial diets be encouraged for best general health?

Also, if that's the case - how do we address the mixed race populations, seems too tricky for me to care beyond pure races.

>> No.12724909

>>12724865
>>12724870
Ask me how I know you're 20 yo zoomers

>> No.12724923

>>12724904
I'm not familiar but if the trend originated in America you can 100% be sure it's identity politics LARPing as pseudoscience. Some ethnicities have predispositions to function better with certain % of macronutrients although it could be argued that rather than an evolutionary trait it is an adaptative mechanism.

>> No.12724926

>>12724904
I'd like to see an answer to this too. As far as I know, gut biome is adapted to what you've been eating for a while, there's no genetics or epigenetics factors to condition it.

>> No.12725001

>>12724923
>>12724926

Here's where it may be a big problem. There are blacks in Canada, also the other non-whites, who are complaining about the recommended diet being racist. Among all the retarded screaming I actually became curious. Some are lactose intolerant for example.

>>12724926
Maybe. I've seen a news report from researchers saying they changed phenotype autism mice (rats?) into near wild-type by introduction of certain bacteria. The gut biome clearly has effects when played with - even some autists in sweden or somewhere around there are getting treated with poop-pills for their symptoms. How far can we push this before it gets too far is the real question.

>> No.12725012

>>12724909
ask me how i know you are a fucking autist

>> No.12725091

>>12724855
>incel
You spelled "volcel" wrong you fucking jerk.

>> No.12725092

Hi friends I have my first hospital placement next month, any tips

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>>12725092
yes, only the tip. You got it, kid!

>> No.12725122

>>12725092
avoid coofing people

>> No.12725123

>>12725096
I wanna use my penus instead of finger.

>> No.12725138

>>12725096
Thanks anon

>>12725122
What does this mean?

>> No.12725158

>>12725138
you don't want to be near people who coof

>> No.12725165

>>12725092
Avoid Baumann

>> No.12725172

>>12725123
https://www.timesofisrael.com/police-investigating-suspected-gang-rape-of-13-year-old-girl-by-4-men/

stay in israel

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Tru /med/ compass

>> No.12725257

>>12725250
you used the wrong version. use this one
>>12724578

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>>12725250
more like this

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>>12725319
ftfy

>> No.12725356

>>12725348
Much, much better. Thank you /med/bro.

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>>12725348
good call

>> No.12725379

>>12724306
>tfw you'll never be an ortho space marine

>> No.12725432

Okay my terrible sitting posture has definitely fucked my ribs, sticks out considerably more on my left when I bend my torso to the side. Is it worth going to the doctor or just go straight to a physio?

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>>12725370
>>12725348
>>12725319

>> No.12725478

>>12725444
>>>/fit/59924172
*sigh*

>> No.12725488

>>12725478
>>>/fit/59924383
double sigh

>> No.12725542

>>12725488
look up EJFitness - he's a family med resident and really /fit/. His wife is higher test than him though, and he's an eternal manlet. Still, seems okay besides his gay affinity for shoes and style.

>> No.12725716

>>12725001
Negros and chinks may be lactose intolerant but that don't make the recommended diets racist. It's as easy as learning basic macros and using proteic equivalents.
To me it sounds like a low IQ bs excuse to bitch about non problems.
God. I hate when academically disabled retards lobby their bullshit politics into healthcare.

>> No.12725832

>>12724698
Bamp.

>> No.12725846

>you'll meet and make life long friends in medical school
>year 2
>no friends
>non-med friends don't talk to me anymore even though I try to (we're either too far or we've moved in different ways)
>tfw see people in my class on facebook posting about hanging out and doing bestie stuff
>tfw so alone

>>12725832
I refer you to >>12724306 and point 3 in >>12724377

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>>12725716
Yup, I agree. The thing about anything in western politics is that you cannot represent multiple peoples without neglecting others. I'm getting the hell of out here - my pay is shit compared to the states, I'm going to Europe. I can't deal with diversity anymore my man, it's time to live with the racists.

Check this nigrophyte's frontal cranial structure. It's as flat as their grasslands. It's not worth the headache; if the west wants to import and worship 3rd worlders, go ahead, I won't be their doctor.

>> No.12725861

>>12725846
It's not advice it's a question regarding if barrel chests are abnormal, and if A slightly barrelled chest even counts as one.

>> No.12725886

>>12725846
>having social media
You should stay there, normshit.

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>the geriatric ward

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>>12725861

>> No.12726033

>>12725886
I only have it because my class/professional memberships post opportunities and shit on there. I'd miss out on a lot if I wasn't a part of it.

>> No.12726125

>>12726033
Normshit cope. Keep pretending you have that shit for professional use instead of peeping into the pretentious illusions of your "guys I kinda see sometime that ain't actually nothing to me".

>> No.12726132

>>12724306
Ketamine therapy is a thing in my area apparently.
Thoughts on ketamine therapy?

>> No.12726138

>>12724306
>Fuck Primaris Marines

>> No.12726242

>>12726125
>guys I kinda see sometime that ain't actually nothing to me
Did I just have a stroke?

>> No.12726261

>>12726242
Did u get assblastitis?

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I didnt choose the manlet life it just chose me
Me also being into medical is just serendipity

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How bad, on its own, is a single lumbar wedge fracture if there's no accompanying nerve damage?

>> No.12726639

>>12725444
>ah bloo bloo use my chart instead
>ah bloo bloo they used my chart

>> No.12726645

>>12725962
>the geriatric psychiatric ward

>> No.12726649

sorry for the wall of text

i know i shouldn't ask this here, but I'm genuinely terrified

last weekend I overworked myself in the gym and monday i felt shooting pains in the upper left side of my chest, near my heart so naturally i thought it was from the gym

the feeling faded until last evening when i received some troubling news from my dad. before going to sleep i realised that i had the same shooting pains when i took deep breaths

during the night, i woke up to take a piss and after i laid down i felt as if my heart was about to explode, yet i didn't feel anything in my left hand nor did i have cold sweats

as soon as i woke up i made an appointment with my heart doc but I'm terrified, my fingers are still shaking as i'm typing this

is it a heart attack? or just a panic attack?

>> No.12726651

>>12726132
it’s pretty neat

>> No.12726697

>>12724306
Hello, I am RN. I came here specifically to piss you off OP.

>> No.12726708

>>12726697
you're a real nigga?

>> No.12726713

>>12725962
Geriatric ward is fuckin boring

>> No.12726722

>>12725846
>wants friends
>doesn’t make friends

>> No.12726727

>>12726649
Go to the ER, have them order you a BNP, cTnI (or T), CK-MB and a casket. Was nice knowing you, Anon.

>> No.12726739

>>12726727
please don't be like this
i knew i shouldn't have asked anything on here

>> No.12726760

>>12726739
Of course you shouldn't. Diagnoses can only be made following an evaluation of signs and symptoms. Some dude saying "my chest hurts" is not specific at all. Maybe you are having a heart attack. Maybe it's pleurisy or some other lung problem. A 4channel thread cannot order tests, cannot listen to your breathing, cannot do an EKG.

Go to the doctor, retard.

>> No.12726765

>>12726708
Internally lol, tho I plan on leaving once my hours accumilated enough.

>> No.12726771

>>12726649
Go to urgent care and report your symptoms. Stop dicking off and go ASAP

>> No.12726772

Say field amputation is needed, leg. How long will it take for an average male to bleed out? Or at least, lose enough blood for him to not be redeemable any longer?

>> No.12726777

>>12726739
Go see a doc Christ all mighty, and do it ASAP if you feel it’s a heart arrack

>> No.12726779

>>12726760
>>12726771
>>12726777
i already made an appointment

>> No.12726782

>>12726772
Where are you cutting off his leg and how well are you controlling the bleeding?

>> No.12726808

>>12726782
standard, below knee.
for the sake of the question, tourniquet would be the only thing controlling the bleeding, which is then released after the operation.

>> No.12727055

dressing up as a doctor and setting up a fake medical tent and injecting people with coronavirus vaccines except the vials and syringes are actually full of steroids also I'm going to steal all their health insurance and credit card information

>> No.12727081

>>12724306
Nothing beats coming home on a Friday afternoon after a busy fucking day on the ward.

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>>12727081
Friday is our calmest day by far
Friday is also cake day here

>> No.12727151

>>12724637
>push in shank
Uh oh rapist, how come you’re bleeding out on the ground?

>> No.12727166

>>12727081
>tfw back into the remote studies hole again for a few months
fridays are the worst

>> No.12727169

>>12727151
>noguns autist
who could have guessed

>> No.12727185

>>12727151
You carry a shank in your scrubs? Are you a nigger?
get a gun you idiot

All of this could be avoided if you bulked up a little

>> No.12727194

>two kiddies still talking about /fit/ matters

God damn, /med/ has truly gone to shit.

>> No.12727268

>>12724862
are you girl? if yes i will fuck you first.

>> No.12727278

>>12726552
oh nice you are back

>> No.12727342

>>12727194
>malnourished autists still angry

>> No.12727371

>>12727342
take your lifting shit to /fit/, please.

>> No.12727376

>>12727371
seethe

>> No.12727378

>>12727376
I'm not seething at all, just saying that it doesn't have a place in here.

>> No.12727379

>>12727371
post body

>> No.12727398

what's up with adam's apple? does it serve any function? how come my sister doesn't have one? why can i lick my adam's apple?

>> No.12727399

>>12727398
just a vestigial remnant. same goes for agger nasi, same goes for hymen, etc.

>> No.12727418

>>12727399
so it's worthless? or does it do some sort of secondary less important function like the spleen?

>> No.12727490

>>12727418
Worthless.

>> No.12727510

>>12727399
>>12727418
>>12727490
false and idiotic

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>tfw be me in the or
>notice something in the corner
>the figure stands expressionless; impassive and alone
>i ask the nurse about it
>she doesn't answer and looks scared
>ask the anestesiologist
>he motions me to shut up and whispers 'tempt not the blade'
>finish operation and slip out of the or
>go talk to the chief
>ask about what happened
>he just gives me a blank stare and says 'all fear the sentinel'

>> No.12727556

Med student here what should I specalise in I love the idea of racing around with flashing lights so maybe trauma. I just want a car with blue flashy lights reee or a helicopter

>> No.12727565

>>12727556
autoeuthanazia

>> No.12727566

>>12727510
enlighten us.

>> No.12727578

>>12727565
>euth nazi a
>nazi

>> No.12727581

>>12727556
Depends on your country which specialization does EM or if it is its own speciality. Mind you its glorified shitty 3-shift work.

>> No.12727589

>consciously realize there is no point in stressing or no harm in being wrong
>heart still races hours after the attending has been grilling me

>> No.12727595

>>12727589
This is me, what the fuck can I even do?

>> No.12727665

>>12727535
shut the fuck up i made one mistake OK!?

>> No.12727667

>>12727566
think

>> No.12727672

>>12727667
you could've just said that you made a shitpost and you have no idea what you're talking about instead you fucking mongrel.

>> No.12727688

>>12727672
im too tired to write paragraphs you can look up theories on the functions of all of them.
>hymen is useless
maybe to your virgin ass it is yeah

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>>12727688
good one

>> No.12727727 [DELETED] 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmTNXLSn4ss&t=4439s

>> No.12727737

>>12726779
>suspected MI
>just a sec gotta get an appointment
do Americans really?

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>>12727737
yes

>> No.12727774

>get called in
>it's a boring afternoon, why the fuck no
>go in
>literally fucking nothing to do, not even paperwork
>bored out of my mind browsing 4chan
>order pizza with the med students
>still fucking nothing
>still 20+ hrs to go

>> No.12727855

>>12727774
>chief comes by
>ask him if he's doing anything interesting that the med students could see as the er is dead
>he keks and says he came down to see if he could help around seeing as he has nothing to do
seriously, we are in a temporal loop or something, no patients have come in since morning

>> No.12728015

>>12727774
why did you get called in if nothing happened

>> No.12728030

>>12728015
the guy who was supposed to be here called in sick
>tfw temporal loop continues
>tell the med students to gtfo and enjoy their friday evening as there is nothing worthwhile to see
>they say that they don't have anything better to do

>> No.12728049

>>12727774
>>12727855
>>12728030
>inb4 a major accident at 4am

>> No.12728083

Anyone has MMPI 1/2 answer?
I lost mine in a fucking windows update

>> No.12728110

>>12728083
huh, seems mine was taken down
might be somewhere under a different name http://www.ohiofamilyrights.com/docs/

>> No.12728151

>tfw reading old comfy /med/ threads from the archive
>fuckers don't link the previous thread in the first post

>> No.12728169

>>12728151
old threads were comfier now we got crowded and they fly too fast

>> No.12728171

>>12728110
Pls tell me when you found it

>> No.12728177

>>12728030
>high risk pregnant woman comes an hour before shift ends

>> No.12728178

What's the OG /med/ squad?

I know the finn, the romanian, the tunisian and the georgian, the anesthesiologist (uk?), Who else?

>> No.12728212

>>12728178
romanon's mom, farthagged pajeet (if he ever did exist), clamper obv., there was some psychiatrist but I don't remember where he was from

>> No.12728222

>>12728212
there was one american neurosurgeon who hilariously imploded because we didn’t treat him with enough respect

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>>12728222
At least he didn't tripfag (like me)

>> No.12728306

>>12728265
medfag?

>> No.12728381

>>12728178
>tfw unrecognized
Haha it's ok guys this is an anonymous board after all haha

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>>12728381
>t.

>> No.12728429

>>12728212
there was one qt from romania(as i remmeber) too i remember her posting pics
>>12728222
man that guy was cringe

>> No.12728441

>>12728381
you better get recognizable or you'll be forever lumped with premeds

>> No.12728469

Is it possible to do private practice ortho whilst also being involved in the medical device industry, or do they only take academic surgeons?

>> No.12728482

>>12728469
probably

>> No.12728494

>>12728212
wasn't there some (romanian?) IM dude

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>>12728429
this one

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>>12728527

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12728588

some historical moments from my trip to the archives

>> No.12728639

>>12728527
That room is a mess. God I hate women.

>> No.12728645

>>12728527
no. i don't wanna see this broad again. end of story.

>> No.12728655

>>12728588
quiet er is the easing

>> No.12728671

>tfw now reaching the point where /med/ was /medg/

>> No.12728677

>>12728671
post some kino if you find. i can't be arsed to look into archives rn.

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>>12728441
You will recognize me.

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>>12728677
the NCx guy >>12728222 was pretty hilarious

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>>12726649
>terrfied
>in pain
>pl0x halp

this kid lmao. Ever think to do anything other than schedule a consult with a cardiologist? I hear emergency rooms are becoming more popular nowadays. Let me cardiovert you, it wont help.

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>>12728527
those tits looks like dough thats been stretched out. Obviously shes been passed around and men have been making spaghetti out of her pillowtops. I have never in all of my years seen such undesirable tits on a young woman. I'd expect those skin flops to start their descent at around age 40, 35 if your a genetic dead end. This isn't prime real estate. They let the whole town rent her out and it shows - a coat of paint wont get the grime out of the cracks, thats for sure boys. Check those fucking tubes too lmfao. Who unironically uses... what is that, a classic littman? WOW. Nursoid detected in a filthy room - hopefully the patient's rooms are more tidy than the most intimate room in her dwelling. Boys, I can't get over how depressing her tits look. Is this meant to be something desirable? What happened to her elasticity lmao

Also someone post QRD on this nursoid

>> No.12728768

>>12728715
he belonged more on reddit. i guess he went there.

>> No.12728778

>>12728767
probably will also fall for silicone meme, which always makes boobs look worse.

>> No.12728833

>>12728778
I don't get why women can't just exercise to keep their body maintained. They go for the laziest way out: makeup, surgery, dying their hair. Terrible the way they are, this should be addressed in family clinics.

>> No.12728848

>>12728833
they are retarded and bluepilled

>> No.12728858

>tfw the clamper pastebin is gone

>> No.12728861

>>12728858
he disappeared from sci altogether hope he is alright

>> No.12728880

I'm trying to get access to a paper written by a cardiologist who studied a Eucharistic miracle where bread was turned into heart tissue. The MD went to study it in whatever country was housing the relic and wrote a paper on it. I don't have access to it through my university, it's not on any open-source sites I typically use and I also directly messaged the guy on ResearchGate, requesting a copy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaoaHNhX1pk&t=0s

This is the paper I'm referring to. The guy in the video did an English translation and read it aloud, but I want the actual PDF, so I can mark it up.

>> No.12728905

>>12728880
nigga got demz crazy eyes. comments say study doesnt exist so...

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>>12728905
Oh shit. I finally found it.

https://web.archive.org/web/20201007171625/http://handsonapologetics.com/Miracolo%20Euaristico_Eucharistic%20Miracle.PDF

mfw cant speak spaghetti

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this gave me a chuckle

>> No.12728972

>>12728938
SAD!
>>12728952
kek

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every1 post tubz

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some old memes

>> No.12729038

>>12728993
what is your endgame?

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>>12728993

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>>12728527
more boobs from the past

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>>12729020

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>>12729038
>>12729054

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>>12728671
>tfw /medg/ was /mg/

here are the humble origins, though there are occasional med general threads all the way back to 2012

>> No.12729214

>>12729196
my ancestor ;)

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some boomer rants from way back when

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>/med/ was /med/ before /mg/
>all threads from pre 2018 are filled with namefags and premeds

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>>12729236

>> No.12729290

>>12729267
kek
>>12729282
>>12729236
How quaint

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will mushroom trips fix this trauma or do we have to keep thinking on ways to fix this?

>> No.12729366

>>12729310
Better not tell you now.

>> No.12729384

>>12728429
Wrong, the nurse gal that was posting pics was not romanian and georgianbro thought I was a girl therefore he thought the gal was romanian.

>>12729020
damn, look at the genetic lottery winner there.

>> No.12729434

>>12729384
I don't get the obsession with a long life. Becoming old is total shit since you don't have the energy or will to do shit. Sight, hearing and balance degenerate to the point where even a walk to the park becomes an extreme sport and you're always thirsty but can't drink too much water or you'll risk pissing yourself.
Not to even mention the fact that government and labour laws and being lobbied to basically cucking you out of a pension by always pushing the retirement age further.
Now that I think about it I'll most likely die without seeing my 30+ working age tax money back since it's all being wasted on welfare and now I'm fuming. Fuck you.

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Final consensus on ADHD?

>> No.12729446

>>12729439
yes

>> No.12729455

>>12729434
>he pays taxes

>> No.12729460

>>12729439
just a cope by retards

>> No.12729466

are nurses people? human even?

>> No.12729516

>>12728938
unironically google translate it

>> No.12729548

>>12729516
it won't work. The PDF is a photocopy of the actual journal it was published in.

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>>12729548
try this
http://www.storiaechiesa.it/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Linoli1.pdf
with this
https://translateimages.site/
pic related to prove it works quite well

>> No.12729893

>>12724306
>woman doctor
>make educational video about pelvic floor
>uses her own pussy as a live demonstration subject

>> No.12729908

>>12729893
Link or didn't happen

>> No.12729927

>>12729908
can we ban coomers?

>> No.12729943

>>12729908
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x396pbw

>> No.12729950

>>12729908
>>>/fit/59936820
It's from this thread

>> No.12729952

What role (in hospital ofc), other than doctors are you getting along with the best?

I choose PTs and the IT guy.

>> No.12729964

>>12729952
Best:
(you)

Worst:
Nursoids

>> No.12729966

>>12729943
Holy fuck that website took more than 30 seconds to load its elements on mobile. Dailymotion cant help not sucking.

>> No.12730048

>>12729950
jesus christ and i thought sci was bad

>> No.12730052

>>12729952
the other academics obviously, hospital chemists, physicists, all the bio people etc.

>> No.12730146

>>12729952
Nurses and engineers

>> No.12730151

>>12729952
jannies because we both deal with trash all day

>> No.12730267

>>12724578
Where would geriatrics, bariatrics, genetics, nephro, pneumo and sports go?

>> No.12730287

>>12727595
>>12727589
>This is me, what the fuck can I even do?
Know that it is part of the game. Banter and nothing personal.

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>>12729650
I would chew your brap for this. thank fren

>> No.12730415

>>12730287
which part of
>>consciously realize there is no point in stressing or no harm in being wrong
you didn't get?

>> No.12730447

Feel free to join https://matrix.to/#/#chat:dsvt.site?via=dsvt.site

It's an academic room on a private server. Always active throughout the day as well. If enough people join a /med/ room can be made.

>> No.12730491

how does one tell apart a bacterial infection from a viral infection without any labs or imaging? Just by signs and symptoms

>> No.12730511

>>12730491
Viral infections are diffuse and self limiting. Bacterial infections are specific and stubborn.

So if some kid comes in with a URTI with a snotty nose, a sore throat, a headache, a fever, a cough, etc. he's probably got a viral infection that'll clear by itself in two weeks.

If some kid comes in with a URTI with JUST a sore throat and no other symptoms, it's probably bacterial (or fungal).

And obviously growths, pus, cultures, etc. all exclude viral.

>> No.12730514

>>12730511
Thanks, anon.

>> No.12730520

>>12730491
you really can't tell very well even with labs, obviously certain shit is only caused by certain pathogens, if you come to me with a obvious sinuitis that has lasted for a month it isn't caused by a virus etc.

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Went to podiatrist, stuck two GIANT FUCKING NEEDLES into this thing, sucked out barely any puss. Told me its full of hardened puss and i need surgery to get this off my foot.

Said i will be unable to walk proper for at least a month.


Thanks doc

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>>12724306
>Mid-level practitioner?
more like
>Mid-wit practitioner

>> No.12730534

>>12730529
>Mid-level practitioner?
more like
>nurse

>> No.12730540

quick question: what makes a good GP?

>> No.12730544

>>12730534
>nurse
more like
>nursoid

>> No.12730567

>>12730540
i'd say the ability to extract a good history and great examination skills. as a gp you are dealing with the widest set of possible problems out of any specialty, so you need to be able to pick up on that shit

>> No.12730570

>>12730567
so...well rounded?

>> No.12730602

>>12730540
Time. Time and earning the trust of your patient.

>> No.12730605

>>12730570
you can specialize too, there are other kinds of jobs in primary care than just attending to whoever happens to walk in from the door, but yeah, from my perspective as a hospital doc, a gp fails either by sending people who should not be sent or not sending those who should be. obviously there is also the vast space of problems that are handled completely on the primary care level which you need to be proficient with.

>> No.12730610

>>12730534
Don't be hating on the PAs who actually have backgrounds in medical science and have medical training. They're not n*rses.

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>>12730610
they are in my country

>> No.12730649

>>12730610
>medical training
kek fuck off with that massive copeposting.

>> No.12730665

>>12730605
Hmm, the fact that you can easily fuck up by sending the pt to the wrong doc or not sending the patient when he actually needs it, sounds like a skill that's obtained over time and with experience, not something I can prepare for in advance.

>> No.12730688

>>12724620
kek this

>> No.12730950

>class does a valentines day gift exchange using emojis to explain what you want
>Hint really hard for grocery store related card
>get a gift card to uber eats
NNNNOOOOOOOOOOO. It's such a waste of money. Almost everything has a $4 (((delivery fee))) so the $20 gift card is inherently only $16, which isn't even enough to get a normal ass meal. Also, the places you buy from skimp on the meal. I got a uber eat gift card from the faculty before and got some A&W and they gave me like a 100 mL bottle of chocolate milk. I fucking HATE this shit.

That being said, what kind of food should I order, /med/bros?

>> No.12731013

Why is benzo tolerance frowned upon so much? What makes them difference from being dependent on an SSRI for example?

>> No.12731026

>uncomfortable feeling under left rib
>find thread on google of similar thing
>many people have it but doctors say its nothing after doing all the tests
oh god ive become a schizo.

>> No.12731043

Can my dog breathing on me or being in the same room as me after eating a rotten cow carcass give me diseases? If so what kind
Pls respond

>> No.12731069

>>12731013
Higher abuse of benzos than SSRIs. Generally not as stigmatized as opioids I think. Also the withdrawal is really, really bad I've heard.

>>12731043
You already asked that nigger. Look up an infectious disease for animals textbook retard.

>> No.12731130

>>12731069
I did ask that and all I got was a smug wojak tier reddit response

Yes, I know rotting carcasses harbor bacteria and micro-organisms. Specifically my question asks a very reasonable question 1) What kind of infectious micro-organisms and bacterial are known to be transmissible to humans 2) what is the risk associated being in close proximity to a dog who ate meat contaminated with such bacteria e.g. breathing on you 3) What symptoms should one monitor for given the circumstances

It's all very reasonable, and does not warrant smug wojak tier replies tbqh

>> No.12731138

I've been working on a memsterpiece - shal'st I post it, or wait for the morrow?

>> No.12731142
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>>12731138
Post it.

>> No.12731160

>>12731130
I refer you to >>12726030

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I'm a virgin. be gentle.

>> No.12731165

>>12731043
Echinococcus granulosus. Supposing the cow was infected, the parasite will grow in your dog's entrails to its adult stage and lay eggs. Your dog gonna poop (eggs in the poop), and as we know dogs paws and mouths may come in contact with their own poop, and so will you.
We humans are accidental hosts, so the parasite will enter our digestive tract, get absorbed, enter the portal vein circuit and land in the liver where it will form a hydatidic cyst.
Maybe you should go to a vet and ask if it's plausible to desparasitise your dog?

>> No.12731201

>>12731160
Let me just go to my GP, without having any symptoms, to ask him a question about dogs and cattle.

In the middle of a pandemic. In the middle of a cold snap. In the middle of a city-wide blackout. Yeah. Sounds good.

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>>12731201
Do you guys not have phones?

>> No.12731222

>>12731211
well right now its 10pm on a friday . you want me to call him rn? and I'd like to get an answer sooner rather than later, even if its just a med students best guess

>> No.12731247

>>12731222
You asked yesterday. You could have called him today.

>> No.12731270

>>12731247
Nobody told me to call my doctor, idiot. the only reply I got was a stupid reddit tier snarky "sarcasm is my personality trait" reply

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>>12731270
reddit? REDDIT?? GO B A C K

>> No.12731290

>>12731165
where is this parasite stored in livestock? i sincerely doubt my dog wouldve gotten to the liver, considering thats the organ most valued among carnivores, no? can this parasite exist in bones or muscle tissue?

>> No.12731321

>>12731270
>I won't call my doctor unless I'm told to
How do you survive?

>> No.12731326

>>12731290
https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/echinococcosis/gen_info/ce-faqs.html

>> No.12731337

>>12731326
>41 deaths in 30 years in US
>most of them weren't even US citizens
why am i worried about this again?

>> No.12731340

>>12731290
Most common places are the liver and the lungs of cattle.
In cow muscle there may be Taenia saginata cysts. HOWEVER, since I'm a mere med student and not a vet student, I don't know if the dog can host this T.saginata parasite for it to become adult and lay eggs (and become a source of infection), or if the Taenia just encysted in the dog's muscle.
I hope this was helpful, and I'd like to repeat that perhaps it would be a good idea to appoint your dog for a deparasitation

>> No.12731356

I literally hate doctors so fucking much guys

>> No.12731382

>>12731340
i greatly appreciate you taking the time to write these posts. before i made my post, i was worried about some kind of bacteria or something that maybe could give me TB/pneumonia but now i'm seeing that parasites are perhaps more realistic and i will make appt for vet

>> No.12731556

>>12731270
>NOBODT TOLD ME 2 USE ME COMMON SENSE LIKE LICHLURY GUISE WTF IZ WROBG WITCHALL
Wish I had smug wojaks. You can use your imagination and see a smug brainlet wojak attached.

>> No.12731629

>>12731556
Look I'm sure you're smart but maybe you're not considering the implicit argument here. I was hoping the subtext was obvious but maybe it's not immediately clear for some people.

If someone goes to a forum which is inhabited by med students and doctors and physicians, and asks a question, and the only response is some silly rhetoric meant to demean the person, then you are actually making an argument. When you ignore people who post here, or treat their post nonchalantly, that nonchalance is an implicit argument; the subtext is clear: your case, your situation, is not of urgent importance.

To succinctly put it, if I post my problem to this thread and no one cares enough to reply except to tell me I'm stupid, then the implicit argument is, by necessity, that my problem doesn't warrant serious consideration i.e. calling my doctor.

So although you might want to tut-tut me for being oh so stupid for not seeking the advice of my GP, really is exactly what the thread implicitly argued for me to do.

You can't have it both ways. You can't trivialize someone when they come for help and then call them helpless and stupid when they take your cue and assume their issue isn't a big enough deal to contact their GP.

>> No.12731750

>>12731164
It's shit, Dr. Anon.

>> No.12731772

>>12731629
>only response is some silly rhetoric meant to demean the person
It's not to demean you. It's because:
1. We're not here to give you advice, period.
2. You need to see a healthcare provider local to you because that is the best way of receiving care. It's literally an ethical requirement of our profession. Can't give care unless we have a professional relationship with the patient --> professional relationship means (more or less) IRL. The reason is that we need the relationship to do our jobs properly. Anonymous internet advice is not a professional relationship.

>You can't have it both ways. You can't trivialize someone when they come for help and then call them helpless and stupid when they take your cue and assume their issue isn't a big enough deal to contact their GP.
Yes we can. We trivialize your retarded request for help on an anonymous internet forum, while making fun of you for being unable to do the right thing and FUCKING CALL A DOCTOR.

But I get it. Doctors in America charge $39.99 minimum (+tip), so free internet advice is what you want.

tl;dr you're retarded

>> No.12731813

>>12729952
for me it was elevator guy and security guards since they don't have sticks up their ass

>> No.12731821

>>12730447
why don't you just make discord instead of these shady links

>> No.12731828

>>12731164
remake it with patient being the jannie or schizoposter

>> No.12731837
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If you are a fat doctor, then tell me why I should care to listen to your advice?

>> No.12731853

>>12731837
i'm not fat, i'm muscular and i'm gonna rear naked choke you if you don't listen to my advice.

>> No.12731866

>>12731837
Not all diseases are related to obesity.

>> No.12731901

>>12731772
Okay now it's clear you just have some weird chip on your shoulder and are intentionally ignoring the truth.

People come to these threads when they're unsure if they should contact their doctor. So if someone who is presumably medically trained takes the time to a be a smug asshole and write "GEE, I DUNNO, DO ROTTING CARCASES CARRY POSSIBLE DISEASES?" and that's it, and no one else replies, what is the layperson supposed to thinl?

People who aren't medically trained don't know how infectious diseases work. Instead of being a smug asshole and writing a smug post, what could have been written was just a 3 word post "call your doctor". Is that so hard? Apparently so.

And guess what, if my post had gotten the replies it got today, yesterday, I would have called my doctor. I'm not saying med students and doctors who come here have an obligation to give free advice, but you can't write smug stupid bullshit and then call someone stupid when they don't call their doctor.

This isn't some like video game forum, people come here for serious health concerns. The smug asshattery you might normally use in other places should be withheld. Its actually irresponsible

>> No.12731934

>>12731837
>having trouble controlling your weight means you dont know how to practice medicine
Go be retarded somewhere else.

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>> No.12731944

>>12731901
>what could have been written was just a 3 word post "call your doctor".

>We discuss research, DO NOT offer advice (just fucking go see your doctor)

It's literally in the OP, you turbo retard.

>> No.12732021

>>12731944
Except you can just scroll up and see dozens of posts from people asking for medical advice. It's like the warning that comes on Q-tips that say not to put them in your ears. Guess what, people do it anyway. Regardless, you're avoiding what I wrote. Someone who presumably is at least a med student decided to reply to me, but instead of three simple words "see a doctor", they decided to write some snarky quip which communicates nonchalance

>> No.12732048

how normal is it for me to feel slightly feverish after taking antibiotics?

>> No.12732073

>>12732048
i just finished 10 days of amoxicilan and i felt fevered on and off. on the first night of taking them i woke up feeling really weird, almost lightheaded. never had a temp above low 99.X

>> No.12732292

>>12732073
>on the first night of taking them i woke up feeling really weird, almost lightheaded
that's basically how i felt this morning

i feel much better now though, not feverish in the slightest

i took klacid btw

>> No.12732307

Cure for autoimmune diseases when?

>> No.12732389

>>12732307
when we return to monke unironically

>> No.12732595

Forgive me if this is the wrong place to ask but if I'm sick (COVID) and wake up with snot (actual snot) in my eye (matted eyelashes), should I be deebly goncerned about infection? My eye is very much red. Some of the snot was dried, some was wet. I must've blown my nose in my sleep and rubbed it in my eye.

>> No.12732604

>>12732595
all good bro, the eye is extremely resilient against infection and heals quickly. just sleep it off.

>> No.12732607

>>12732021
>We discuss research, DO NOT offer advice (just fucking go see your doctor) make fun of premeds and shitpost.
you joined a thread about shitposting and you expected to not get shitposted on
do you see the issue here?

>b-b-but other people asked for advice
just because other people are doing it doesn't mean you should. This is anonymous - probably <5% of posters here are even qualified to give you proper advice. Why would you take that chance?

If you still believe you have the moral high ground, O lord, then please enlighten us heathens as to how we improve our OP so people like you don't ask for advice.

>> No.12732612

>>12732604
Is this sarcasm? If not then thank you.

>> No.12732645

>>12731828
>>12731750

Are there any meme-making folders floating around?

>> No.12732651

>>12732645
theres a mega with the apus look around in archives

>> No.12732653

>>12732612
it was sarcasm. your eyes are extremely vulnerable to infection. this is because the blood vessels there are very thin by design to allow for optimal vision and this in turn makes it difficult for your immune cells to reach an area of infection in the eye if it occurs. the eye does have other mechanisms for defense and you will probably be fine but you only have this single pair of eyes, if they get fucked its over. you should watch this very closely and if your symptoms worsen at all you should have it checked out.

>> No.12732694

/med/ically speaking, is it better to squat while shitting? (i.e. using a shitting stool)

>> No.12732831

>>12732694
yeah

>> No.12733092

Dear MDs of /med/,

I need advice. I am clinically retarded and a cheapskate and can't figure out what to do to be healthy. How can I guilt trip you into giving me free advice because you're in such a profession that requires you to do what the patient requests. So I ask you /med/, how can I not be so dumb?

Warmest Retards,
Anon

>> No.12733123

I can't quit smoking cold turkey.i tried so many times but I simply fail, i feel like I can't function properly without cigarettes.

Is NRT worth it? Should I just get some patches? At least, I want to not fuck up my lungs any further.

>> No.12733199

are both sides of the ribcage supposed to be the exact same, i cant sleep on my back because when i breath out at the end of the breath it feels like my left side of the ribcage lightly digs into me which is a little uncomfortable so i sleep on my side.

>> No.12733426

It's good habit to link the next thread
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