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[Anonymous No.12707992]

SPAYCE edition

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[Anonymous No.12707996]

biggus jimus

[Anonymous No.12707997]

Big Jim :(

[Anonymous No.12707999]

You’re going to laugh at me, but what’s the most realistic way I could go to space in my lifetime?

I’m 25, and about to go back to college (messed up the first time around; was aimless and didn’t even try). I’m going to study physics and astronomy. I then plan to join the Air Force as a pilot before I’m too old.

While in the Air Force I’ll pursue my master’s and hopefully PhD.

[Anonymous No.12708002]

>>12707999
wait, it'll become cheap eventually

[Anonymous No.12708004]

>>12707999
checked. Honestly, your best bet is learning to code.

That's a meme, and it sounds retarded, but I was a wagie with a useless degree for most of my adulthood and then my bf taught me to code. Now we made a startup, and we just cleared series B funding. Getting enough money for financial escape velocity is a good bet for being able to grow your wealth to the point where it keeps growing on its own. From there, you can buy tickets or even invest in space stations.

[Anonymous No.12708019]

Welcome to the club

[Anonymous No.12708020]

>>12708019
thanks man

[Anonymous No.12708026]

nice
https://twitter.com/jdeshetler/status/1360846379656957953?s=20

[Anonymous No.12708033]

>>12708026
i wish twitter would let you save gifs. Fucking kikes

[Anonymous No.12708035]

>>12708020
this man did horrible things. jewish slave labor, thousands died in v2 production, saboteurs hanged, thousands of civilian casualties . terrible man

[Anonymous No.12708039]

>>12708035
cool, I know

[Anonymous No.12708042]

come on, he's waiting

[Anonymous No.12708044]

>>12708035
What a guy

[Anonymous No.12708049]

>>12708033
Well, it's not a gif. It's an mp4 which I converted to webm for your ass now. Here's one with sound too.

>>>/wsg/3795822

[Anonymous No.12708058]

>>12707999
No laugh, why?
You have at least another 50 years before becoming too old anyway, a lot can happen in 50 years.
If Starship delivers it could become no more expensive than buying a good car.

[Anonymous No.12708067]

>>12708004
True, but I genuinely don’t care that much about money. Even if I was stacked and paid for a ride to space I wouldn’t feel like I earned it. I want to be part of the reason we get there, you know?

[Anonymous No.12708075]

>>12708035
Worth it.

[Anonymous No.12708109]

Anyone else heard about OTRAG? Watched this documentary recently, shit was fucking insane.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEmYgATuz5A

[Anonymous No.12708113]

[Anonymous No.12708127]

>>12708035
Saturn 5 makes up for it even if he literally killed millions with his own hands

[Anonymous No.12708138]

>>12708035
wait which of these were bad

[Anonymous No.12708144]

MAD MAX in SPACE

[Anonymous No.12708156]

>>12708035
I know right? He was based as fuck.

[Anonymous No.12708163]

>>12708035
this you?

[Anonymous No.12708182]

So now that Europa Clipper is no longer tied to the SLS, what will it launch on?

[Anonymous No.12708257]

>>12708182
Ariane.

[Anonymous No.12708272]

SN27 has a healthy dent in the bell so it's clearly not going to fly again. Maybe it's going to be used as a pathfinder for BN1. Or used for on-site replacement parts for another raptor if needed.

[Anonymous No.12708276]

>>12708272
Don't know why you would assume any functional purpose, retired engine stripped of sensors to show off the mechanical parts screams display piece to me

[Anonymous No.12708280]

>>12708272
I don't think SpaceX does "pathfinder" engines, bro.

[Anonymous No.12708312]

>>12708049
this highlights how close SN8 was.

[Anonymous No.12708315]

>>12708312
Yeah, would have nailed if it if it didn't shit out its engine.

[Anonymous No.12708325]

>>12708312
They both got close but SN8 failed due to a fundamental error with Starship’s design while SN9 just had a crappy engine

[Anonymous No.12708329]

>>12708325
looks that way. SN9 was cursed all the way through.

[Anonymous No.12708341]

>>12708315
Would've been amazing nailing the landing on first attempt.

[Anonymous No.12708342]

>>12708341
How would thunderfoot spin that? Would he just become a "SpaceX CGIs their rockets" guy at that point?

[Anonymous No.12708344]

>>12708342
thats unfortunately not even that unlikely

[Anonymous No.12708345]

So much for that global warming, huh

[Anonymous No.12708352]

>>12708345
Didn't Earth warm by 3C in 2020 due to fewer clouds?

[Anonymous No.12708359]

>>12708345
it goes both ways, which really shows why we need starship asap, because the F9 is too much of a posh bitch and will fall apart if the weather isn't nice

[Anonymous No.12708361]

>>12707999
I'm not laughing anon, nobody in this general is going to laugh at you. I'm 28 and entirely plan on getting to space. Here's how I plan to do it:
>graduate with my clinical psychology phd in the next three years
>get a research position at a university
>create a lab dedicated to space psychology
>spend literally all of my free time making connections in the space industry to get access to private astronauts
>invest 25% of my income into solid cryptocurrencies (doing that now)
>by the time SpaceX brings spaceflight to the masses in the next 10-20 years, I'll have the connections to warrant going to space, the legitimate interest, and plenty of money to fund my own ticket
For you, I'd recommend just getting a good job that makes you useful here on earth and saving a lot of money. The moment space becomes cheap due to Starship, jump on the opportunity. Space colonies, especially colonies on Mars, will need people good at all sorts of things. Trying to become a pilot in the Air Force is great and would be a fantastic job, but it likely won't get you to space that much faster if I'm being honest. Learning physics and astronomy may also be cool, but still not that advantageous. If you want the best shot at getting into space, I'd recommend being actually useful. That means software engineering, real world engineering, medicine, electrical, plumbing, greenhouse agriculture, you get the idea.
Also bro, invest in crypto.

[Anonymous No.12708373]

>>12707992
I watched Interstellar again it got me thinking about how incredible interstellar travel will be. Imagine looking up at an alien sky. Watching the sunset of a star that isn’t the Sun. Watching a colony grow on a world trillions of miles from home. It’s insane. Of course even in our lifetimes we will probably never see it. Wormholes don’t exist. I think we’ll probably be able to go to Mars before we die, but no further. Maybe our kids will go to Jupiter. But seriously one day someone will make the trip to another star, and it’ll be the biggest part of human history since the invention of the wheel.

[Anonymous No.12708375]

>>12708144
That movie was fucking weird. I didn't hate it though.

[Anonymous No.12708386]

>>12708361
I’m in Uni for Pre-Medicine. I’m planning on brute forcing my way into space (Paying for a ticket). $250K is actually not that much money in the grand scheme of things. Anyhow I’m a bit scared that Pre-Med won’t work out so I plan on switching to Nursing or something if I don’t get into med schools. They still make $100K/year here so I figure five or so years of that and I’ll be able to pay for my ticket

[Anonymous No.12708390]

>>12708035
>thousands died in V2 production
>implying Germans waster labor in the middle of a war

[Anonymous No.12708537]

https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1361322519786119171
>The Inspiration4 sweepstakes, which is raffling off a seat on a Crew Dragon mission at a fundraiser, is at the halfway mark (started two weeks ago, ends Feb. 28). Its goal is $100M and it’s currently at… just $8.9M.
big oof

[Anonymous No.12708541]

>>12708537
That's what happens when your only press is a garbage ad during a show for simpletons.

[Anonymous No.12708543]

>>12708537
100 million was ridiculously high for something like this anyway, only the biggest of multiyear charities will get that much money.

[Anonymous No.12708549]

>>12708390
Dude, what do you think the holocaust was?

[Anonymous No.12708550]

Could some Biologyanons here give us a rough gestalt of the limits of genetic engineering when it comes to modifying the cold resistance/CO2 consumption of a plant? I understand that the various perchlorates in martian regolith severely stunt plant growth, but there's got to be some way to spread something like a versatile algae in lichen form over the surface for some free O2.

[Anonymous No.12708555]

>>12708549
A start?

[Anonymous No.12708587]

[Anonymous No.12708603]

Being a Nazi on 4chan went from being offensive, to funny, then to mainstream, but now it's just cringy.
It's like, yeah I get it you want to gas the kikes and hang the nigger. But you're only saying that for attention so now it's like telling everyone in the room that you're a vegan, and laughing to yourself when they get annoyed.

[Anonymous No.12708613]

>>12708587
Terraforming is a meme though

[Anonymous No.12708618]

>>12708613
So were rockets in Goddards time

[Anonymous No.12708621]

>>12708549
Propaganda

[Anonymous No.12708626]

>>12708549
Don't even bother, during normal work hours this place is infested with right wing conpiratards. They have no jobs, so they can shitpost here all day.

[Anonymous No.12708628]

>>12708329
It's disappointing, but seeing the speed at which they do new test flights is awe-inspiring. The rapid production, development, and launches are insane

[Anonymous No.12708708]

>>12708603
Did you come from r/SpaceX?

[Anonymous No.12708716]

>>12708603
honestly I get more attention when I post about how horrible the holocaust actually was lol

[Anonymous No.12708725]

>>12708587
>>12708613
Reminder: Alternative to terraforming is genetic modification.

[Anonymous No.12708729]

>>12708725
Nice try, Omar
Mankind’s domain shall be green garden worlds

[Anonymous No.12708772]

3 more days roverchads

[Anonymous No.12708785]

>>12708772
Don't remind me, it's giving me anxiety.
I don't want to hear about it until it's safely on the surface.

[Anonymous No.12708787]

>>12708729
>>12708725
The future is domed cities

[Anonymous No.12708788]

>>12708373
I think the big shift is Mars colonization being long term self sustaining. That's the 0 to 1 on "worlds of mankind that will survive if Earth becomes uninhabitable." Everything else is 1 to n.

>>12708549
A lie.

>>12708033
There are browser extensions for that.

[Anonymous No.12708812]

>>12708725
Everything will tried, until the money runs out. Suits and tunnels will be in use in 30 years and in 500 years.

[Anonymous No.12708826]

[Anonymous No.12708842]

>>12708826
Is this Orel?

[Anonymous No.12708883]

>>12708842
Дa. Looks spacious. Especially compared with Soyuz. Crazy to think this thing [might] be propulsive landing.

[Anonymous No.12708895]

>>12708883
Bless this ship.

[Anonymous No.12708898]

>>12708787
retard

[Anonymous No.12708939]

>>12708785
apparently NASA's track record for successful Mars landings is around 50/50. Curiosity being a success doesn't mean at all that Percy will be.

[Anonymous No.12708989]

>>12708939
Every Mars rover launched by NASA has landed successfully. it's been over 20 years since the last time they failed to land any mars mission

[Anonymous No.12709002]

>>12708939
I think it's the same deal as SpaceX trying to land the F9, where at first they sucked at it but now they pretty much have a 100% success rate. Landing on Mars is difficult and there's a lot that can go wrong with little variables that get overlooked. NASA (and specifically JPL) have mastered it at this point. It'll be interesting to see if China can nail their landing

[Anonymous No.12709015]

trips and perseverance crashes

[Anonymous No.12709025]

>>12708587
why not both?
You're going to have to wear something while in the process of terraforming

[Anonymous No.12709037]

>>12708939
>>12708989

although the skycrane etc. is proven tech, it's still only been proven once. pretty sphincter tightening considering how many stages it has.

[Anonymous No.12709039]

https://twitter.com/DavidWillisSLS/status/1361040975183962117?s=19
Based SLS

[Anonymous No.12709046]

>>12709037
Yeah it's kerbal as all get out. But in reality all it needs to do is sense the ground, and fire its rockets to kill all velocity. The programmers at JPL are just as autistic as the ones at SpaceX so I believe in them

[Anonymous No.12709048]

>>12709039
fuck nixon holy shit

[Anonymous No.12709049]

>>12709039
Its not a new fucking vehicle. Fuck SLS

[Anonymous No.12709052]

>>12709039
Should have been essentially free, goalpost: moved

[Anonymous No.12709060]

>>12709039
Interesting. People arguing that it's mostly reusing old tech are right, but so is the fact they recovered SSMEs everywhere they could to save money. Saturn V has come and gone, SLS hasn't launched yet. Replacing the seemingly expendable 1bn launch tower is another cost to add up. Seeing how JWST has been allowed to reach costs that are half of a super-heavy launcher, I'm sure it's too early to give too much importance to the 18bn figure.

[Anonymous No.12709061]

>>12708939
50/50?
Stop pulling numbers out of your ass.

Viking 1 : Success
Viking 2 : Success
Pathfinder : Success
Mars Polar Lander : Failure
MER-A (Spirit) : Success
MER-B (Opportunity) : Success
Phoenix : Success
Mars Science Laboratory (Curiosity) : Success
Insight : Success

That's 8 successful and 1 failure, almost 89% success.

The Mars Polar Lander crashed because Lockheed was too stupid to use metric for the design, so the damned thing was doomed from the start.

[Anonymous No.12709064]

>>12708035
good point
all space flight saboteurs should be hanged

[Anonymous No.12709065]

>>12708361
>real world engineering, medicine, electrical, plumbing, greenhouse agriculture,
Those are all fine but
>software engineering,
can't you just pay someone on earth to do all the work that doesn't require someone to be on site and send the data over the internet. The light lag is only 5-20 mins. Sure you can't participate in live zoom meetings, but if you just have to answer emails n stuff it shouldn't be any different than working from home during covid.

[Anonymous No.12709068]

>>12709061
>Lockheed was too stupid to use metric for the design
Fuck metric.
Aerospace engineering still frequently used customary units.
And, on top of that, an engineer at NASA noticed the problem and reported it to his superior who chided him for failing to report it through proper channels.
They ignored him.

[Anonymous No.12709070]

>>12708035
and he was still man of the Century. There will be statues and hologram guides of Von Braun thousands of years after Israel is gone and forgotten.

[Anonymous No.12709071]

>>12709061
Mars Polar Lander was cool. This list is also cool, you can see all the fuck ups early on
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_missions_to_Mars

[Anonymous No.12709074]

MARTIAN
CORNISH
PASTIES

[Anonymous No.12709076]

>>12709060
>Between 2009 and 2010, a mobile launcher platform called the Mobile Launcher-1 (ML-1) was constructed as part of the Constellation program. Since the cancellation of the program in 2010, ML-1 was converted for the Space Launch System Block 1, with various phases of construction between 2013 and 2018. The total cost of the ML-1 is estimated to be $1 billion.[19]
Yet, to launch Block 1B..
>On June 2019, NASA awarded a contract for the design and construction of the Mobile Launcher-2 (ML-2) for SLS Block 1B.[20] Construction of the ML-2 began on July 2020, with the planned completion in 2023. The total cost of the ML-2 is estimated to be $450 million.[19]

[Anonymous No.12709084]

>>12709070
>There will be statues and hologram guides of Von Braun
Like the libs will ever allow that to happen.

[Anonymous No.12709094]

>Aerospace engineering still frequently used customary units.
It said to use metric in the contract. They didn't read it. Who cares what the units are, they didn't check the contract.

[Anonymous No.12709096]

>>12709071
>A CD-ROM containing the names of one million children from around the world was placed on board the spacecraft as part of the "Send Your Name to Mars" program designed to encourage interest in the space program among children
Don't forget 35 year old manchildren!

[Anonymous No.12709107]

>>12709096
>found by then middle aged zoomers in the 2040s who think its for taking selfies

[Anonymous No.12709109]

>>12709084
Might as well say like the Nazis will ever allow that to happen!

Times move on. Libs are a product of their time just as much as Conquistadors and Druids.

[Anonymous No.12709118]

>>12709109
Anon, society is gonna collapse.
Time does move on, and we're entering a dark age period. See you in 500 years when we recover.

[Anonymous No.12709128]

>>12709118
Even if America where to collapse. China shows no sign of slowing down. We're making a solid effort in this century to make our presence in Space permanent.

Which is another angle in defense of Von Brauns legacy. The Chinese don't give a rats ass about Nazism.

[Anonymous No.12709146]

>>12709128
societal collapse and a sino dominated world are basically the same thing. they don't gaf about their own people, they would treat the west like dogs.
being an anti-american westerner is about the stupidest political stance possible.

[Anonymous No.12709150]

>>12709146
nah, fuck your destabilizing PoS country

[Anonymous No.12709151]

>>12709002
if JPL has been hacked by China's cyber army then they probably can

[Anonymous No.12709152]

Perseverance will RUD on landing just like SN9. Screencap this.

[Anonymous No.12709155]

>>12709152
Alright.

[Anonymous No.12709158]

>>12709128
I doubt the chinks will be putting statues of Von Braun up ever given that they are more likely to just tell their people that they were the first ones on the moon and let’s not forget that ideologically he was the complete opposite so it wouldn’t be a good look.

Nah I don’t see it. Perhaps Musk might name his first colony on the moon after him, but given the current political climate it would be pretty risky.

[Anonymous No.12709169]

>>12708787
>The future is domed cities
Here on Earth as well.

[Anonymous No.12709171]

>>12709146
>societal collapse and a sino dominated world are basically the same thing.
Is not you retard. With China science and technology will be preserved and increased.

>B-but is not the USA!
Piss off, that's what you deserve for voting liberal and being decadent.

[Anonymous No.12709172]

>>12709158
I wonder if Werner von Kerman committed war crimes against kerbal jews

[Anonymous No.12709177]

>>12709171
>With China science and technology will be preserved and increased.
how when there's no one to steal ip from?

[Anonymous No.12709178]

>>12709172
how do you think mystery goo is produced?

[Anonymous No.12709183]

>>12709177
They never allow themselves to plan for that because it's an implicit admission that they're soulless bug people who lost the spark of creativity that once existed in China. It would be a cosmic loss of face.

[Anonymous No.12709195]

Boca Chica looking frosty today

[Anonymous No.12709208]

>>12708342
>blunderfoot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TxkE_oYrjU
Have fun in the comments.

[Anonymous No.12709211]

>>12709178
Topkek

[Anonymous No.12709213]

>>12707992
Reminder that Chinese do not respect westerners. All of you fags who say “Dude it’ll be cool because I’ll show them how loyal I am” are no different than the white girls who try to join BLM and then get beat up

[Anonymous No.12709214]

>>12709084
>the libs
Won't be going to Mars.
Or rather, they won't be staying on Mars.
>>12709128
>China shows no signs of slowing down
>get on elevator
>select top floor
>elevator begins accelerating
>doesn't stop moving
OH FUCK IT'S GONNA SHOOT STRAIGHT THROUGH THE ROOF!

[Anonymous No.12709216]

>>12709208
on one hand he absolutely deserves it to drown in negative comments but on the other hand the attention helps his videos.
then again he is already so big that we might as well just go for it

[Anonymous No.12709219]

>>12709151
I don't think there is any US government entity which hasn't had all its data stolen from the chinks.

[Anonymous No.12709220]

>>12709213
No one is saying that. They are saying Humanity will go to Space now wether the USA is involved or not.

[Anonymous No.12709226]

>>12709216
98% chance he’s ironically doing this just to get views from contrarians

[Anonymous No.12709227]

>>12709128
China is gonna have the same demographics as Japan in a few years but will still be a poor country. Given that their cars explode when they crash and their rockets literally crash on towns I doubt they will ever dominate space.

[Anonymous No.12709228]

>>12709208
What exactly is his problem

[Anonymous No.12709230]

>>12709228
He didn't learn, from the AMOS-6 incident.

[Anonymous No.12709232]

>>12709208
Why do people hate SpaceX so much?

[Anonymous No.12709252]

>>12709216
he consistently deletes comments that disagree with him in any way

[Anonymous No.12709254]

>>12709232
Because Elon.

[Anonymous No.12709257]

>>12709252
Got proof of that?

[Anonymous No.12709264]

>>12709220
Does anyone have a source or video of this Von Braun quote? There was a video on twitter, but it's gone and I can't find it anywhere else. Went something like

>"We have been given the material science, the technical ability, and the resources to pursue the exploration of the universe. To squander these gifts would be nothing short of corruption of a god given right."
Or something like that

[Anonymous No.12709267]

>>12709254
So they want a corporate stiff like Bezos to run the show?

[Anonymous No.12709272]

>>12709257
Guess it's deleted

[Anonymous No.12709279]

>>12709267
Thunderfoot thinks Mercury-Redstone is the pinnacle of rockets and that, quote, "rocket technology has had almost no technological advancement since the dawn of the first orbital rocket". He's an idiot who has not only self-admitted to not knowing much about rockets (he said this verbatim in his last debunked video), but he thinks that Boeing and ULA are the most practical approach to spaceflight

[Anonymous No.12709283]

>>12709213
I don’t respect westerners either

[Anonymous No.12709284]

>>12709267
They want unassuming generic and subversive corporate stuff instead of pushy bold and disruptive corporate stuff

[Anonymous No.12709285]

>>12709208
It's funny how the TL;DR of that video is; the shuttle was expensive, so why wouldn't starship be expensive?

[Anonymous No.12709296]

>>12709220
HOW DID WE GO FROM THIS

TO FUCKING PLANETARY PROTECTIONISM

AAAAAAAAAAAA

MANIFEST DESTINY IN SPACE

NOW AND FOREVER

[Anonymous No.12709297]

>>12709279

[Anonymous No.12709302]

>>12709285
To be honest, I didn't even watch it.
He's just e-celeb because some feminist tried to cancel him some years ago.

[Anonymous No.12709304]

>>12709296
planetary protectors ought to be dragged behind a woodshed and shot. Mars Aeternum.

[Anonymous No.12709306]

Holy shit is this true?

[Anonymous No.12709314]

>>12709306
ITAR?

[Anonymous No.12709315]

>>12709314
the update

[Anonymous No.12709319]

>>12709306
Probably fake or outdated news, but lmao I hope it's true. Would be peak clown world. I think everyone knows about the lawsuit, but if it's a Chinese National I will forever hate California for even deciding to hear the case.

[Anonymous No.12709321]

>>12709257
every time i leave a comment that disagrees with him its gone within a few days

[Anonymous No.12709322]

>>12709315
Yeah, that's what ITAR is for?

[Anonymous No.12709327]

>>12709264
I know what you're talking about but I can't find it.
Anyone?

[Anonymous No.12709333]

>>12709267
They want a faceless government entity.

[Anonymous No.12709336]

>>12709319
Would be yet another fine example of liberal leftist wokeism shooting itself in the foot

[Anonymous No.12709340]

>>12709306
inb4 Space is raycist.

[Anonymous No.12709352]

>>12709340
Can't wait for the articles about space being too white just like they wrote about the national parks being too white and that somehow harms minorities (saw that article in the NY Times in 2014)

It's so tiresome, these people, crabs in a bucket, their souls weighed down by gravity

[Anonymous No.12709365]

>>12709352
>Can't wait for the articles about space being too white

[Anonymous No.12709376]

>>12709365
There it is, it always starts with language policing.

It's so tiresome.

[Anonymous No.12709378]

>>12709319
The plaintiff is some Austrian Jew. Not sure if he has ties to the CCP

[Anonymous No.12709381]

>>12709306
>It is being reported that the employee Musk wouldn't hire had ties to the Chinese Communist Party's corporate espionage efforts
Is there even a source for this one? The linked article makes no mention of SpaceX nor Musk

[Anonymous No.12709383]

>>12709128
Fuck China.
>>12709227
China is gonna have worse demographics.

[Anonymous No.12709384]

Maybe we need leftist catchers like dog catchers?

[Anonymous No.12709389]

>>12709365
>TFW we will never go back to the moon or mars because all the money was funneled into reparations

[Anonymous No.12709390]

>>12709383

[Anonymous No.12709392]

Brownsville have any brownouts yet?

[Anonymous No.12709396]

>>12709279
>>12709297
Tbh, I'm a huge Mercury-Redstone fan.
It's the pinnacle of rocket aesthetics, in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.12709406]

>>12709390
It's gonna get really bad because both China and India have excess men. The next recession China faces will probably be a catalyst for another great war.

[Anonymous No.12709408]

>>12709383
not a big deal, we have more efficent means to grow and harvest rice than traditional Chinese/Japanese farming methods.

See my picture? That's why rural Japan is dying off.

[Anonymous No.12709415]

>>12709214
>Won't be going to Mars.
They can still have influence here on earth. They can still negatively impact our space chances.
There's already a movement in academia to decolonize space (whatever the fuck that means).

[Anonymous No.12709420]

>>12709408
The problem is that there aren't enough babies being born anywhere in China. The country will become a giant nursing home.

[Anonymous No.12709424]

>>12709383
If the Chinese really were smart, they'd cut a deal with the Russians to buy the excess Russian brides and create an autistic sub race of Slav-Hapas

[Anonymous No.12709426]

>>12709408
Who's we?

[Anonymous No.12709431]

>>12709327
I swear it's actually scrubbed from the internet. Can't find it anywhere

[Anonymous No.12709438]

>>12709381
Source? You need a source? Are you freaking kidding me? Don't ask for a source! Just get angry! Why are you even looking at the article? Just read the headline and get mad at it go- I mean guy!

[Anonymous No.12709442]

>>12709426
Anyone who isn't running a farming operation out of a 200 year old substance life style farm. One tractor does the work of 100 people.

[Anonymous No.12709444]

>another thread full of whiny conservatives complaining that they lost
Can't wait for another 8 years of this

[Anonymous No.12709448]

Why haven't they made a lander/rover which records it's descent - in full 1080p - saves it and sends back to earth in parts yet.

[Anonymous No.12709456]

>>12709448
>resource extraction bad

[Anonymous No.12709457]

>>12709448
look at the SIZE of that SCHNOZZ

[Anonymous No.12709462]

>>12709448
Size/weight constraints making it not worth it for what amounts to a thousand unnecessary frames of the same thing.

Perseverance has a go pro inside the heat shield though, so what you want is hopefully coming soon.

[Anonymous No.12709465]

>>12709444
I'm not a conservative, I'm a libertarian.
And if you don't see the damage that the social sciences are doing to the hard sciences then you're a retard.

[Anonymous No.12709468]

>>12709448
For decades probe development has been focused on making stuff as small, lightweight, and yet reliable as possible. Adding extra bits like a high quality camera would add too much mass on the pathetic mass budget. In addition to that, probe builders seem to hate public spectacle for some reason

[Anonymous No.12709473]

>>12709444
>the most obvious evidence that your civilization is dying
Yeah I don't see anything that's to get mad over

[Anonymous No.12709474]

>>12709448

[Anonymous No.12709477]

>>12709444
>another drive by leftist complaining about other people's opinions
Did you think "the conservative" boogeyman would poof into pixie dust when Trump lost? Leftists didn't shut up when Trump was President, why did you expect the opposite to be true?

also this
>>12709465
the "people" you're defending literally believe objectivism and rationality need to be "deconstructed" to make way for nigger fee fees.

[Anonymous No.12709479]

>>12709448
guys what's her race

[Anonymous No.12709486]

>>12709477
I'm not defending them.
I'm literally saying the opposite. They're the people I'm complaining about.

[Anonymous No.12709487]

>>12709479
"Fellow White"

[Anonymous No.12709491]

>>12709444
If I don't make myself the victim how can I feel like a special crusader fighting against orcs? I want to be just like my fantasy books! Deus vult!

[Anonymous No.12709493]

>>12709486
I wasn't refuting your point I was expanding on it, the modern school of social "sciences" is anti-science because they're fundamentally opposed to the basic underpinnings of the scientific method

[Anonymous No.12709494]

>>12709479
She definitely wouldn't be into lunar rally racing. Maybe her kind of race is the race to the manager's office to complain about how her mocha order didn't include pronouns.

[Anonymous No.12709495]

>>12709456
They just want a star trek fantasy. They sneer until they're BTFO then act like they weren't Sneeds. Deep down they know that they will never be able to go to space.

[Anonymous No.12709501]

>>12709473
Have you ever considered the you think "civilization is dying" because you spend all your time locked in your room looking for news that confirms your biases rather then going out an finding a community to work with towards a shared goal?

[Anonymous No.12709506]

>>12708067
How can literally paying for the endeavor not feel like earning it?

[Anonymous No.12709513]

>LOOK AT THESE TWEET COLLAGES AND GET ANGRY
>DON'T THINK JUST GET MAD AT THE SAME STUFF OVER AND OVER
>GETTING ANGRY IS BETTER THEN BEING PRODUCTIVE

[Anonymous No.12709518]

>>12708049
somebody sync the booms plz

[Anonymous No.12709519]

>>12709501
People are literally being fired and blacklisted for saying people shouldn't be fired and blacklisted for political gain. Maybe step out of your own church bubble and look at what's actually happening in wider society?

[Anonymous No.12709529]

>>12709327
I'm looking for it as well. I can't find a single quote on it. But I think I remember hearing him say it in an interview during the 60's or 70's. It's probably on youtube somewhere and no one has transcribed it so it's hard to search up

[Anonymous No.12709531]

>>12709501
Not really. I do spend time in irl communities and regardless what I have seen has led me to the positions I have already.

[Anonymous No.12709533]

>>12709519
I don't care about some rich hollywood dyke getting fired for making herself a victim. You shouldn't either.

[Anonymous No.12709534]

>>12709513
getting angry often motivates people to get productive

[Anonymous No.12709537]

>>12709513
Nah. NASA hasn't made any progress since they stopped caring about making space accessible and started to care about keeping a launch schedule going.
People died because NASA wasn't willing to risk the jobs of some bureaucrats.

It's not just a few people but I would argue atleastt 50 percent of the population would rather use NASA money for their children's subsidized school lunches.

Look at how this women says in a condescending manner "boys and their toys", she treats SpaceX as if it's a rich man's sports car or bass boat.

[Anonymous No.12709540]

>>12709534
No it doesn't. Especially not getting mad at faceless tweets over and over and over again on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.12709544]

>>12709537
These people need to disappear to some Alaskan Inuit tribal village for 5 years.

[Anonymous No.12709545]

>>12709513
>Do something productive
About what? Space? We’re literally sports fans but with spacecraft instead of football

[Anonymous No.12709548]

why is it that /sci/ has more productive geopolitic threads than any other board?

[Anonymous No.12709552]

why haven't you fitted cold gas thrusters to your car yet /sfg/?

[Anonymous No.12709553]

>>12709448
>What is radio communication?

[Anonymous No.12709555]

>>12709537
>I would argue at least 50 percent of the population would rather use NASA money for their children's subsidized school lunches.
>Because of a single tweet
This is exactly my problem with this entire "online outrage" cycle. All you do is make up stories, then find tweets to re-enforce you biases. The person who tweeted that is a complete nobody, and not worth your time or consideration. Do something better with your energy.

[Anonymous No.12709556]

>>12709548
Spaceflight is a pleb filtering topic

[Anonymous No.12709559]

>>12709545
Doing anything that develops a personal skill is better then raging at the same tweets over and over.

[Anonymous No.12709560]

>>12709540

[Anonymous No.12709565]

>>12709548
>DA JOOS ARE KILLING SPACEFLIGHT
>ZOMG SPACEX IS GETTING SHOAH'D FOR NOT HIRING CHINESE SPIES (No I won't provide a source!)
>GUYS LOOK AT THIS TWEET BY SHNOZZER MUTTSTEIN FROM 2012!!!!
>productive geopolitic threads

[Name No.12709567]

>>12708035
>horrible man
>act like you wouldn't do the same
I'm sure you'd stand up to an entire country hell bent on doing those things, just to be shot, instead of get paid to pursue your dreams and push the boundary of science. Faggot.

[Anonymous No.12709568]

>>12709545
CAHM ON SPAYCE EX, LAUNCH SAHM FAHCKIN ROHKETS

[Anonymous No.12709570]

>>12709555
Talk to your typical woman from star bucks and she'll say we need to fix the planet first which translates to fixing Karen's problems.

[Anonymous No.12709571]

>>12708035
Holy fuck, based! I wish this wasn't all dreamed up by shrieking yentas.

[Anonymous No.12709576]

>>12709565
trust me this leagues above /pol/

[Anonymous No.12709577]

>>12709560
>A paranoid schizo who did nothing but demolish some buildings that got put up again in 3 months who shot himself in his cuck box
Yeah exactly what I am telling you to avoid.

[Anonymous No.12709578]

>>12709570
>DUDE LOOK AT THE PAINT IMAGE
>DON'T THINK ABOUT INFLATION JUST SEE LOWER NUMBERS AND PIC OF BLACK PEOPLE AND GET MAD
Thanks for proving my point.

[Anonymous No.12709581]

>>12709570
We spent 7.3 billion on welfare, 3.3 billion on NASA, and 8.5 billion on education. At the very least women would be able to cook.

We spend 1.03 trillion on welfare each year, imagine if we spent that much on education, or 500 billion a year on companies like SpaceX.

[Anonymous No.12709587]

>>12709565
>Noooooo stop talking about this topic which offends me
Grow up Jesus dude

>>12709568
>‘On’t ‘ate Xenos becus they’a black, it ‘cus ‘ey ‘ave acid foah blüd

[Anonymous No.12709588]

US could triple the NASA budget on a whim... It's really in the end about priorities. Military has deeper pockets. SpaceX is better aligned by serving real none science meme interests. Let's the vehicles develop far better. (not direct affiliations), but the capacity is likely important.

the current diversity investigation, is likely only a sign of things to come.

[Anonymous No.12709590]

>>12709578
You think that we're mad because Biden won.

>>12709444
We aren't we're mad that NASA canceled a ISS centrifuge module after being given it by the Japanese government for Access to the ISS.

We could have very well solve the bone depletion issue for long term space flights by now.

[Anonymous No.12709591]

>We should spend more money on space then feeding citizens
I understand why you guys want this, but do you understand why it would be political suicide? Just imagine the attack ads
>My opponent wants to let your family STARVE while he spends TRILLIONS on rocket fuel. Our starving children can't drink RP1 Mr./sfg/

[Anonymous No.12709595]

>>12709587
You can talk about whatever you want, just don't delude yourselves into thinking it's "productive" in any way, shape, or form.

[Anonymous No.12709596]

>>12709591
No I get it that’s why politics sucks man. Appeasing to the masses is what politicians do. If I ever run for Congress I’ll be a democrat desu just because it’s easier man

[Anonymous No.12709598]

>>12709537
>>12709544
this is the woman they're floating around as next NASA admin?

we're doomed

[Anonymous No.12709602]

>>12709596
>If I ever run for Congress I’ll be a democrat desu just because it’s easier man
Completely depends on the district. This is why people like AOC can get elected, or MTG on the other side of the aisle. They're constituents are so polarized they just need to pander to the extremes, and have no needs to compromise on their craziness.

[Anonymous No.12709603]

>>12709595
Alright if I’m wasting my time being here then what are you doing here?

[Anonymous No.12709605]

>>12709598
we are only doomed if spaceX doesn't make a good enough case for the national security people. Since China haas space ambitions. America first kind of attitude goes along way. That said, no one knows how much of American elite are compromised. But likely spaceX assets will do more, if aligned with military interests and dependent on those for political protection rather than NASA interests. Though honestly who knows.

[Anonymous No.12709607]

>>12709596
>Thinking that Congress actually does anything besides rubber stamp shit

[Anonymous No.12709608]

>>12709603
I'm done with work today, and finished my hobby time blocks. I have the rest of the evening to relax and shitpost.

[Anonymous No.12709609]

>>12709448
>Weinstein
>That nose
If only Hadrian had finished his job.

[Anonymous No.12709618]

>>12709598
She's been out for years but she's jaded over something.

>>12709588


People are willing to do that if they see NASA not do the same crap as they've been doing for 30 years.

NASA should be pushing for fuel depots, make the work open source so we can get 2 or 3 fuel depots in LEO, which would create competition and better accommodations so we would see the transition from fuel depots to full fledged space truck stops.

[Anonymous No.12709620]

look guys either jews are the real ubermensch for being able to run circles around every other american elite denomination or you idiots are missing for the forest for one of the trees

[Anonymous No.12709634]

>>12709620
Yes I agree!!!! Let me screenshot this and post it on r/AgainstHateSubreddits. Epic win! Chuds BTFO’d!

[Anonymous No.12709635]

>>12709618
I would be surprised. But that is the longer term play. The thing is over time this loses nasa power. And shifts it to the military and biz sector.

[Anonymous No.12709638]

>>12709565

[Anonymous No.12709639]

>>12709591
Why not defund the maritime, rail, aviation, or automobile industries to "feed the poor"? Because those industries serve an important role in the economy of the country, and their defunding would inflict much more harm than good even if the money from their budgets were used in purely humanitarian ways. So why treat the space industry differently? It too serves critical roles in the economy and security of this nation. Navigation, communication, resource monitoring, material research, and so much more. Even more importantly, it is a budding industry with untapped potential, and whoever can access that potential the fastest and most effective will have great influence over space industries in other countries. It is simply imperative to nurture this growing industry to reap the benefits that could help much more people later, than just sending extra scraps to them now.

[Anonymous No.12709642]

>>12709634
Yeah. I better go do that. Better than hanging around with people who are consistent losers, high on copium.

[Anonymous No.12709645]

>>12709618
NASA did a lot of work on fuel depots even into the mid 2010’s. It wasn’t until Falcon Heavy was announced and suddenly SLS became obsolete that they decided to kill depots - which was ULA’s way of competing with SpaceX.

[Anonymous No.12709648]

>>12709635
Once Star Link goes operational things are going to be big with SpaceX & the Military. I could see the US military wanting to send a space force task group to Mars to make China & Russia Seethe.

[Anonymous No.12709649]

>>12708049
>SN10 fails in an even more unexpected way
>SN11 finally nails it, further cementing SpaceX's uncanny connection to the number 4.

[Anonymous No.12709652]

>>12709645
what's holding private space depot's up once starship rolls around. it seems way more consistent to fill up many fuel depots. Than refuel starships to mars or moon rather than continuous tanker launches.

[Anonymous No.12709657]

>>12709649
I’m waiting for the day a Raptor fails on ascent and we see Starship rumble out of control before detonating

[Anonymous No.12709659]

>>12709648
I think a military outpost makes sense on mars. Only not quite yet. I think a manned research base on the moon with a few spooks in the background is going to be far likelier.

[Anonymous No.12709665]

>>12709639
>So why treat the space industry differently? It too serves critical roles in the economy and security of this nation.
Not nearly as much as the shipping industries you mentioned. Also Space assets require less upkeep and management then roads, rails etc. and there are just a lot less space assets then roads and rails to manage/upkeep. Losing Space assets also has less of an immediate impact then having shipping halt or slow down.
>it is a budding industry with untapped potential, and whoever can access that potential the fastest and most effective will have great influence over space industries in other countries.
Unfortunately, not really. There is very little actual profit or benefit that comes from space assets that don't directly related to earth based life. There's no real reason for a government to leave LEO other then bragging rights and knowledge for the sake of knowledge.
>It is simply imperative to nurture this growing industry to reap the benefits
I agree, but the benefits won't come from the space industry. The benefits will come from horizontally available industries developing new tech to be used in space. The hard part is getting to a place where those new technologies can be developed and used cheaply, which looks like a massive money sink to anyone not paying close attention.

[Anonymous No.12709667]

>>12709652
ULA was apparently banned from making depots which killed ACES. SpaceX also noted that they plan on launching a tanker, then refueling it with other tankers until its full, AND THEN launching the crewed Starship which then Gets a full load from the first tanker.

[Anonymous No.12709673]

>>12709652
Fuel depots would be great because you wouldn't be so time constrained. You could fill up the depot a year or more ahead of a mission to Mars, then there's only a single docking required to send people to Mars.

With Fuel depots you could shuttle people to the moon with smaller class sized rockets.

[Anonymous No.12709679]

>>12708883
>>12708826
What is it with the Ruskies and eggshell white?

[Anonymous No.12709684]

>>12709667
I am glad they are doing... I guess it's also accurate to considier that SpaceX starship's total fuel capacity out classes most smaller Depots. Meaning they'd have to go quite big to actually build a big enough refueling node.

This is a such high risk play. All the resources are placed on a souyz space tractor for the modern age. This is truly the soviet ideal of building a mass of these vehicles. Then customizing to various specializations to the point of absurdity. Truly the MT-LB of the space age.

[Anonymous No.12709687]

>>12709679
Good question

[Anonymous No.12709693]

>>12709659
It would pressure everyone else to stop pissing and moaning about the South Sea to throw serious money toward Mars.

Lefties would cry out but we're talking hundreds of billions to trillions of dollars being sent to Mars. Right now all NASA wants is a glorified flag planting mission.

Nobody is talking about sending actual nuclear reactors to Mars with mega-wattage capacity. With underground tunnels you could support tens of thousands of people for the short term. Yes it would be nice to build domed structures, but that's material you have to ship in, and it's unlikely individuals would gain meaningful private apartments to unwind in.

[Anonymous No.12709700]

>>12709667
>ULA was apparently banned from making depots which killed ACES


What for?

[Anonymous No.12709706]

Why doesn't Starship use its engines to slow its descent and then land in a big net or some massive bit of foam rather than the stupid hard ground?

[Anonymous No.12709709]

>>12709700
https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/08/rocket-scientist-says-that-boeing-squelched-work-on-propellant-depots/
Because, SLS (pbuh) forgive me for mentioning this, PROPELLANT DEPOTS are COMMUNIST FILTH that only FORGEIN companies like SpaceX would attempt. Only TRUE AMERICAN rockets can fly without the need of such VILE AND DISGUSTING things

[Anonymous No.12709710]

>>12709700
Shelby found it it threatened the SLS so threatened to have the CEO fired, which he was, and the whole ACES program was shut down

[Anonymous No.12709711]

>>12709706
Because M*sk is a fruad

[Anonymous No.12709722]

>>12709706
How will there be nets or foam on Mars?

[Anonymous No.12709726]

>>12709706
Why not a giant robot that catches the Starship from 1 km and brings it down like superman towing a giant airplane?

[Anonymous No.12709728]

>>12709706
Good idea, now give me a material that we could build a net out of that could withstand the BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP of a Super Heavy doing its landing burn

[Anonymous No.12709732]

We gaaaaaaaaan HOP this week?

[Anonymous No.12709737]

>>12709710
Democracy is a cruel joke.

[Anonymous No.12709739]

>>12709722
3d print them like everything else on Mars

[Anonymous No.12709743]

>>12709645
>Second stage is bigger than the first stage

[Anonymous No.12709751]

>>12709693
The military doesn't run on magic. There is practically no reason. I can legitimately think of only one. Mars training grounds. Military buys a ton of territory for a small base. To train elite operatives on rotation on operations in low g enviroments, as well as learning how to operate vehicles in adverse conditions. (though you can already get a lot of this kind of thing.)

Other than training there are no real objectives. I mean similar things can be done in the arctic desu. The military doesn't move on a whim. It would take serious institutional momentum. Space Race is also genuinely considered a demilitrized zone. Relatively speaking.

NASA flag planting mission is the best kind of instutitional support current politics permits. There is just not a large enough support base. Which is why Elon is such a relative e-whore.
#1 Political Elite don't find it meets their objectives.
#2 Doesn't make anyone richer
#3 No Strategic objectives, unlike the moon which can be built out into a massive deep space port
#4 There is no real support in the broad public. It's not a political issue or fear.

So it becomes an altruism project, and maybe an escape hatch for a few crazy enough people. It's a desert. You also have a hard time selling this land for practical purposes.

Would be dank if you could build out the theory that nukes where used based on that speculative work of whoever the fuck that guy was. But genuinely this is a hard sell. It's very very high risk.

[Anonymous No.12709758]

>>12709722
send them beforehand with an SLS launch or two

[Anonymous No.12709777]

>>12709722
Set up the initial Mars landing area somehow

[Anonymous No.12709805]

>>12709208
just dislike and move on.

[Anonymous No.12709811]

Earth must be asteroid dropped

[Anonymous No.12709826]

>>12709737
If you actually think Amerikkka is a democracy you are braindead.

[Anonymous No.12709834]

>>12709826
>believing democracies exist at all and that all votes ever weren’t rigged

Ngmi

[Anonymous No.12709837]

>>12709826
>democracy has never been tried
>communism has never been tried
>it wasn't real capitalism

I guess it's all just been one big joke...

[Anonymous No.12709838]

>>12708618
So were rockets 5 years ago.

[Anonymous No.12709844]

>>12709826
Democracy = plutocratic abuse of power = pump and dump of the public's good will

Welcome to the universe, retard.

[Anonymous No.12709849]

>>12708772
>it'll detect life!!!!!
>it doesn't have any instruments for it, but it'll take mars rocks and deposit them on Mars, making it easy for an actually useful mission to land on Mars and retrieve these stones from Mars. Then we can test these rocks with the equipment we didn't put on either of these missions and - voila - wait, the mission designer just died of old age. Anyway - voila - additional potential clues that could point to the fact that Mars may have had life once or maybe not.

[Anonymous No.12709858]

>>12709834
>>12709837
>>12709844
All political systems are/become just oligarchic structures with variable levels of lip service to popular participation if you want to get down to it, but what is interesting in burgerland is how in your face the gap between theory and practice really is, and how that is actually defended by the public despite it being fundamentally against them.

[Anonymous No.12709861]

>>12709849
Ayytards are insufferable. It will literally never matter if mars had microbes on it 2 billion years ago.

[Anonymous No.12709864]

>>12709849
honestly we could send a team of 2 that are willing to die on mars with enough food for the next 20 years to do research on the surface by 2026. And there likely will be 2 scientists with a deathwish. But alas, there is little room for bold action.

[Anonymous No.12709866]

>>12709849
I get why they play up the "searching for signs of life" angle with every Mars lander but damn is it tiring

[Anonymous No.12709867]

>>12709732
no

[Anonymous No.12709871]

>>12708035
>Saboteurs hanged
Holy fucking based, if only we still treated backstabbers with that level of decisive punishment.

[Anonymous No.12709874]

Perhaps with the advent of proper life extension technologies we might consider a benevolent dictator - I'm pretty sure the only reason such a system stopped working historically is because the leaders invariably die after a while and their successors always suck.

[Anonymous No.12709877]

>>12709849
yea the "well collect rocks with the car that we'll then come and pick up later with something more capable than the car therefore negating the need for the car" shit is the most retarded thing ever.

[Anonymous No.12709879]

>>12708989
Don't worry. Robotic missions can fail very easily even after a successful landing. Insight managed that just fine very recently.

[Anonymous No.12709881]

>>12709858
True to a degree, but authoritarian systems have a chance that the individual in charge will be ideological to a degree and have the means and opportunity to follow through with moral projects. Democracies/republics are totally impenetrable to ideology.

[Anonymous No.12709883]

>>12709858
yeah, well no shit. But you'll never be able to replace the is collective ficiton. Only replace it during the next elite swap.

Discussing the delusions of the american electorate goes all the way back to the founding of the nation, and later the french revolution, and ironically back to the British.

American really can be looked at as Britian ||, literally a global dominant empire, now on soft power, with even better financial extraction. And get this still a fucking island with a sense of self righteounses. And instead of freeing the 'slaves' they want to free every opressed minority on the face of the earth.

[Anonymous No.12709886]

>>12709879
shut up, don't jinx it man

[Anonymous No.12709896]

>>12709883
rent free

[Anonymous No.12709897]

>>12709883
America is based because we don't pretend like democracy is something it isn't

[Anonymous No.12709899]

They hates us

[Anonymous No.12709906]

>>12709899
replace the les with a tiny starship

[Anonymous No.12709910]

My dad just told me he has made over over a mil in crypto from like a 10k initial investment that I'm set to inherit, conniving bastard never said a word about crypto until now. Holy shit that's my my mars ticket bros.

[Anonymous No.12709916]

>>12709897
yeah? are you sure about that

[Anonymous No.12709924]

>>12709899
one day...

[Anonymous No.12709926]

>>12709267
Anon, they are jealous. Elon gets to do all his dream projects, succeed with all of them, push humanity forward, be the richest person, bang his gf singer, raise a family AND he gets to be a happy joyful child on twitter.
People are miserable and can't stand to see him do any of this, let alone all of it together. It makes them feel as worthless as they are. So they try to deny that things are the way they are. If he's just a conman after all, then I don't need to feel bas.

[Anonymous No.12709928]

>>12709722
Trying to make mars capable rockets before he even made it cheaper to send satellites into orbit is like trying to eat the cake before baking it.
He should concentrate on cheaper satellite rockets first and then use the profit to research mars capable rockets.

[Anonymous No.12709937]

>>12709924
Reminds me of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEOveeZuor0
Still waiting for the release....

[Anonymous No.12709938]

>>12709910
Anon.. I hope he liquidated his positions already..

[Anonymous No.12709942]

>>12709928
You're retarded

[Anonymous No.12709943]

>>12709928
Based proxima centauri poster

[Anonymous No.12709948]

>>12708826
>>12708883
It will be shame seeing this delayed to 2032, after Biden torpedoes the NordStream 2

[Anonymous No.12709950]

>>12709938
Hence the sweating man. I think altcoins, at least the ones he is in on, are a pretty solid investment anyway since you are essentially buying into products and services rather than shit like doge.

[Anonymous No.12709955]

>>12709948
>NOOOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST FREELY TRADE PRODUCTS BETWEEN YOUR OWN SOVREIGN NATIONS WERE GONNA SANCTION YOU STOOOOOOP IT

fuck our international policies are aids.

[Anonymous No.12709972]

>>12709710
figured. He got the CEO fired? When is that Turd going to be replaced? Can't believe it but I feel bad for ULA given that they tried to be innovative to have that done to them.

[Anonymous No.12709974]

>>12709881
>but authoritarian systems have a chance that the individual in charge will be ideological to a degree and have the means and opportunity to follow through with moral projects. Democracies/republics are totally impenetrable to ideology.
Not really. All systems are vulnerable to ideological thinking, particularly when said ideology affects things that don't represent(or are not perceived to represent) a direct threat to the goals of the real powerbrokers.
You can look at something like the athenian invasion of Syracuse, which was heavily supported by the people but would serve no practical purpose even if it succeeded.
>>12709897
Burgers claim their system as being based around the popular will of the people. The only thing that would be undemocratic about would be the electoral college, albeit its current incarnation was already being decried by the founding fathers as a corruption of the original constitutional intended two centuries ago, and pretty much everyone nowadays treat it purely in terms of whatever it helps the blue team or the red team ie it is perceived purely in terms of a powerplay rather than an actual mechanism.
>>12709948
>>12709955
Yurop might just tell the burgers to fuck off this time, if what happens when they tried to convince the europoors to decouple from the chinks last year is any indication.

[Anonymous No.12709975]

>>12709950
There's no solidity in altcoins, or crypto for that matter. USDT for example is a ticking bomb ready to explode. I don't want to make you more anxious, you should probably believe he made that knowing his thing, but there's absolutely no certainty when it comes to crypto—hardly any coin is backed by anything and most are just trying to fake it till they make it. I guess things like XMR that already have some actual usage are relatively safe. But pink fields will blossom—inevitably.
t. /biz/tard

[Anonymous No.12709988]

I want to have sex with alien people

[Anonymous No.12709995]

>>12709950
SELL

[Anonymous No.12709997]

>>12709679
What is the Russian equivalent of Romalian Type?

[Anonymous No.12709999]

>>12709988
>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.12710000]

>>12709988
Yeah same, but we are not ready for contact with proxima tradwives

[Anonymous No.12710002]

>>12709679
It's a comfy color, easy on the eyes, neither harsh nor dim.

[Anonymous No.12710005]

>>12710000
Your pelvis will never be ready for ayylien pussy but somebody's gotta go first.

[Anonymous No.12710006]

>>12709999
>>12710000

[Anonymous No.12710016]

>>12710006
/sfg/ fucking owns this board, never looked at how many post numbers this general consumes nowadays

[Anonymous No.12710026]

>>12709314
itar is a meme. it doesn't apply to most positions in spacex

[Anonymous No.12710028]

>>12710016
The rest of this board is a full on dumpster fire anyway.

[Anonymous No.12710029]

dubs and Perseverance explodes on landing

[Anonymous No.12710034]

>>12708272
Why can't they replace the bell?

[Anonymous No.12710037]

>>12710029
>crashes
>rtg falls into ground
>there just so happen to be a few deinococcus radiodurans on there
>life proliferates in the subsurface organic soup
>mars is terraformed

[Anonymous No.12710040]

>>12710037
lmao

[Anonymous No.12710045]

Is there a discord for this thread? I'd like to be able to tlak with your fuckers about other shit

[Anonymous No.12710049]

>>12710045
no fuck off

[Anonymous No.12710050]

>>12710037
I know of a few Russian mishaps (like the time they fucking spewed Canada with radiation), but have there ever been other RTG missions that have failed?

[Anonymous No.12710053]

>>12710037
I like how NASA are talking about preventing 'contamination' with their missions. Like we are not going to contaminate the fuck out of mars once we start sending people..

[Anonymous No.12710054]

>>12710045

[Anonymous No.12710056]

>>12710045
Die discordfag

[Anonymous No.12710057]

>>12710045
Gr8 b8 m8 I'll r8 it 8/8

[Anonymous No.12710058]

>>12710053
let's face it the number one reason for not wanting to contaminate other planets is to not fuck up the data which is collected there.

[Anonymous No.12710060]

>>12710045
reddit.com/r/krystalNSFW

[Anonymous No.12710064]

>>12710045
take ze shot

[Anonymous No.12710076]

>>12710058
>implying transpermia didn't happen making the whole contamination bs a waste of money
>implying NASA wont still cry about contaminations when they find similar bacterial groupings on mars

[Anonymous No.12710090]

>>12710053
They know, "planetary protection" is the final step in preventing colonization after NASA can no longer hold back space exploration simply by stagnating as an entity.

[Anonymous No.12710095]

Were there any Chinese rocket launches lately? Just asking, since they like droppin' them hot.

[Anonymous No.12710096]

>>12710053
That’s why we’re never sending people

[Anonymous No.12710104]

>>12710090
Could they truly stop Musk, like in a worst-case-scenario dilemma?
And no don't say "international waters" or "he would launch anyways!". I want to realistically discuss if the cabal could manage to pass laws to keep Musk off of Mars

[Anonymous No.12710110]

>>12710104
Planetary protection could cuck him but remember that a lot of SpaceX launches are for the Military Industrial Complex

[Anonymous No.12710134]

>>12710104
They essentially have to convince the FAA to take planetary protection sufficiently seriously to ground them. Realistically they will try, but a compromise will be reached, as always.

[Anonymous No.12710143]

>>12710049
>>12710050
>>12710054
>>12710056
>>12710064
>>12710060
why you guys so anti-discord? Would an IRC be better....?

[Anonymous No.12710146]

>>12710143
just don't

[Anonymous No.12710147]

>>12710104
Depends on musk giving them more ammo.
Musk's "who do you think owns the media" stunt pissed of a lot more people then him smoking some pot for example.
Lot's of people would be more the happy if the "cancel culture" mob makes musk their main target.

[Anonymous No.12710151]

>>12710143
If you've been a part of communities that actually do this and don't understand the problem, you never will

[Anonymous No.12710152]

>>12710143
Well first of all, you can't be anon on Dicksores or IRC, and that attracts namefags.

[Anonymous No.12710153]

>>12710143
go cycle an airlock you wipe

[Anonymous No.12710163]

>>12710143
I have never seen a discord not full of weirdos and freaks.

[Anonymous No.12710186]

>>12710045
>tranny

[Anonymous No.12710198]

>>12710143
Discord is slightly above reddit, in terms of shittiness and cringe. It's only saving grace is that it doesn't have a vote system. Discord is fucking stupid. You join a server and you get bombarded with thousands of rules. "don't curse" "don't say this" "don't say that". It's overwhelmingly liberal. Not to mention the fact that all of its users are weebs and freaks, pedophiles, and children. Emojis permeate discord. And discord users are so fucking stupid they have to add "/s" any time they say something sarcastic because the average idiot there is too dumb to understand when people are joking or being serious

[Anonymous No.12710201]

>>12710186
no u
>>12710163
you're on 4chan
>>12710153
with you inside, yes please
>>12710151
never been in one, this would be my first time

[Anonymous No.12710203]

>>12710198
but everyone here is cool tho so why would it be like that?

[Anonymous No.12710206]

>>12710028
Dedicated spaceflight board when?

[Anonymous No.12710207]

>>12710203
>>12710201
stop

[Anonymous No.12710208]

>>12710203
Nah some of you are faggots, and something about discords makes faggotry grow.

[Anonymous No.12710209]

>>12710206
which colony would have the worst shitposters?

[Anonymous No.12710211]

>>12710104
Yes, very easily. It's a point to be worried about, especially with the insane political climate. Imagine Musk starts sending hundreds of people to Mars and they are overwhelmingly white men because those were the majority of the people who could meet the incredibly rigorous standards for the very early colonists? It would be absolutely nuclear.

[Anonymous No.12710213]

>>12710209
FUCKING FEATHERS from those Amazon Cylinders(tm) in LEO

[Anonymous No.12710214]

>>12710209
Uranus can be literal shitposters.

[Anonymous No.12710216]

>>12710209
venusians

[Anonymous No.12710217]

>>12710213
ah yes, the dreaded Bezos bros

[Anonymous No.12710220]

>>12710198
>weebs

[Anonymous No.12710222]

>>12710203
Why doesn't /sfg/ create a subreddit either? Because it would be stupid. Besides, discord would split /sfg/ up into too many niche topics. For example, channels would probably be dedicated to nuclear propulsion, starship, boeing news, shitposting, etc. Some channels would get neglected and it would just be retarded overall. We already have a forum format here and if someone says something niche but interesting, people talk about it. If someone says something stupid, everyone is free to ignore them or call them a fag.
Discord is gay and you should stop using it. And delete your reddit account.

[Anonymous No.12710224]

>>12710216
If I lived in hell I'd be pretty ornery too

[Anonymous No.12710232]

>>12710220
4chan is built around weebs, but they are normal weebs. I should have clarified: discord has "weebs" who only watch shit if it has been dubbed. I joined a Catholic discord out of curiosity one time and everyone who self-labeled as "Japanese enthusiast" only watched attack on titan and one punch man, and considered dragon ball z the pinnacle of Japanese art. It's a fucking gay website

[Anonymous No.12710238]

>>12710232
>Catholic discord
>Japanese enthusiast
??????

[Anonymous No.12710239]

>>12710222
alright guys, I get it, i'm sorry for suggesting that

[Anonymous No.12710244]

>>12710239
actually you know what, no I'm not. You're attacking straw men. You people are just pissed at the discord userbase, but you fail to realize you'd be selecting only cool people from here. And it'd be free to join. I'm not going to bother making one now but I've never seen programming kick in this hard, it's like saying nigger around an sjw. Kind of pathetic. discord is literally just a venue

[Anonymous No.12710245]

>>12707992
Failed clone of Martin Sheen shits on SpaceX for 20 minutes while shilling for ULA.
>https://youtu.be/_AMg9JudChM
Some cool info from the video
>SN8-11 all are expendable prototypes designed to test liftoff and aerodynamics. Elon didn’t expect SN8 to go so well so SN12-14 were cancelled.
>SN8-14 we’re all designed to test ascent and whatnot. Landing was a secondary mission hence why their legs are so crappy.
>SN15 is the Block 2 of the starships. It’s actually designed to land as a primary goal.

[Anonymous No.12710255]

>>12710244
>you'd be selecting only cool people from here
You don't get it. That's part of the problem too.
Anyway, is there really not a free anonymous platform for talking and shit?

[Anonymous No.12710261]

>>12710255
you're on it

[Anonymous No.12710262]

>>12710239
You are forgiven
>>12710244
I refuse to believe you are the same person as >>12710239

[Anonymous No.12710270]

>>12710211
Elon should bring Chinese people

[Anonymous No.12710274]

>>12710261
I meant talking with VOICE. Hang out 'n shiet
Although come to think of it, the idea sounds kinda /soc/

[Anonymous No.12710275]

>>12710245
>SN8-14
>why their legs are so crappy
sorry anon, but even SN16 has the dogshit landing legs

[Anonymous No.12710277]

>>12710244
>You people are just pissed at the discord userbase, but you fail to realize you'd be selecting only cool people from here
Go on any general on this website that has a large amount of tripfags and you'll see the exact same homosexual behavior that people hate about discord
>cool kids club where the older your membership is, the more established you are and the more people care about your opinions
It removes the meritocratic aspect of 4chan, which is one of the few positive parts of this website.

[Anonymous No.12710280]

>>12710211
I love white men as much as anyone but if your colony is 95% dudes you’re making Ram Ranch

[Anonymous No.12710291]

>>12710104
>The cabal

We call them Jews here.

[Anonymous No.12710295]

>>12710277
im just lonely and want to make friends.

[Anonymous No.12710296]

>>12710280
> He hasn't taken the Artificial womb pill
>Nor the twink bottom pill
Ngmi, will not survive the martian winter

[Anonymous No.12710299]

>>12710280
Good luck finding women to sign up for the hardest frontier ever. They might start showing up after a decade or two when the real hard graft has been done.

[Anonymous No.12710302]

>>12710295
reject social life
return to 4chan

[Anonymous No.12710312]

>>12710302
>return to 4chan
where do you think we are?

[Anonymous No.12710315]

>>12710295
internet friends are not real friends, go outside

[Anonymous No.12710319]

>>12710295
we're all frens in /sfg/, anon
except the krystalfag, fuck him

[Anonymous No.12710321]

>>12710319
>fuck him
I ain't putting my dick any where near that man.

[Anonymous No.12710332]

>>12710299
>bring along womb-enabled trannies

[Anonymous No.12710335]

>>12710332
Skip the trannies and just bring wombs

[Anonymous No.12710338]

>>12710299
And that's how it's supposed to work. Most colonies in history go through the same phase.

[Anonymous No.12710340]

>>12709988
Same.
Hopefully they're what loads of people previously expected of "just Earth animals but like humans." No blueberry flavored foxes though, that's gay.

[Anonymous No.12710348]

>>12710222
>too many niche topics
Holy crap I've seen too many Dicsores like that. Like a MMO guild, with sub-channels for a dozen different individual raids and shit like that, with over 90% of them that have never seen their first message.

[Anonymous No.12710352]

>>12710280
Just bring Neuralinked enabled VR and onaholes, there, you have averted rampant gayness

[Anonymous No.12710353]

>>12710335
You can't cuddle a womb. You can't feel live from a womb. A womb will never serve you as a space tradwife

[Anonymous No.12710357]

>>12710353
> A womb will never serve you as a space tradwife
>Tradwife meme
>IN SPACE
Tell me the traditions of the spacefaring people.

[Anonymous No.12710359]

>>12710353
>artificial womb x2
>Martian femboy wife
>twice the output

[Anonymous No.12710360]

>>12710357
Gathering around their fattest man to listen to him shout the daily news.

[Anonymous No.12710374]

>>12710357
Wearing togas and every hour uttering the sacred phrase "fūk ûrff" "fūk bœng"

[Anonymous No.12710382]

>>12710352
That’s cringe bugman dystopian shit

[Anonymous No.12710386]

>>12710382
>unironically coveting 3DPD

[Anonymous No.12710392]

>>12710386
I have never held hands with a girl, I have never talked to a girl alone outside of school settings, I have never had a friend who was a girl, I lust after the female form but I can not imagine a future with a girl friend, let alone a wife.
Am I too far gone?

[Anonymous No.12710395]

>>12710353
Trannies get a premature airlock

[Anonymous No.12710397]

>>12710386
>trying to mask disgusting incel degeneracy behind memes

You will never spoon with a real woman. You will die alone.

[Anonymous No.12710407]

>>12710357
>Tell me the traditions of the spacefaring people.
They don't just stop being indo europeans when they leave the planet. A nuclear family is still very important to civilization

[Anonymous No.12710412]

>>12710332
No one likes those ugly fucks

[Anonymous No.12710419]

>>12710392
there exists a nonzero portion of females who actively seek out ugly unsuccessful virgins and want nothing more than to fuck their brains out, the world is a huge and crazy place you just need to expose yourself to a sufficiently large percentage of it

[Anonymous No.12710424]

>>12710397
>Ascribing value to intimate contact when you could be finding deep personal satisfaction in studying the universe and building a future for mankind.
Like I give a shit about dying alone

[Anonymous No.12710437]

>>12710419
>who actively seek out ugly unsuccessful virgins
I don't believe you, but thank you for the wonderful lie.

[Anonymous No.12710450]

>>12710437
It's true, they are many kinds of predators out there.

[Anonymous No.12710458]

>>12710424
Keep telling yourself that. It’s all a cope.

[Anonymous No.12710459]

>>12710450
So what do I put out an ad in the classified section or somethin? Incel looking for women who loves nerd virgins. I mean these women have to be spoiled for choice.

[Anonymous No.12710468]

>>12710353
Neither will a troon, because the stress of having to actually do something besides obsess about their mental illness will increase the suicide rate to 100%.

[Anonymous No.12710488]

>wyn have a smöl tiddy goth gf inviting you on a starship flight
why even live bros?

[Anonymous No.12710489]

>>12709988
get in line lol

[Anonymous No.12710492]

>>12710459
that's true. The thing is you have to realize most women will never meet or even see those people. It's part numbers game. Part just showing up. Part actually being able to have some charm, and maybe self awareness. Look man, I don't know where the predator women are at, but they are out there. The venues always change. Worst comes to worst, just buy a prostitute in France or whatever. And realize it doesn't matter nearly as much as you thought.

[Anonymous No.12710496]

>>12710458
All philosophies, religions and approaches to life are cope, cope with the cursed blessing that is sentience. I like my approach because it eliminates a source of misery that cripples far too many poor anons and provides a route to mental harmony. You can pursue romance if you desire, I shall not try to convince you that your path is wrong but you will have to admit, that in the harsh early days of a planetary colonisation effort, an approach like yours may lead to friction and strife.

[Anonymous No.12710500]

>>12710496
Conflict is good. It purges the defective, like you.

[Anonymous No.12710501]

>>12710488
>this is your rocket?
>y-yeah
>wow it's so cool!

[Anonymous No.12710502]

>>12710489
I feel like most alien portrayals lack imagination. Eldritch monstrosities, gaming laptops, ant hive minds, dolphins. Basically... anything.

[Anonymous No.12710530]

https://eyes.nasa.gov/apps/orrery/#/sc_perseverance

[Anonymous No.12710536]

>>12708035
(Jude)

[Anonymous No.12710566]

>>12710488
>ywn find a gril who is interested in spaceflight
>why even live
fixed that for you

[Anonymous No.12710570]

>>12710566
>when you take a girl out who has NASA stickers on her laptop (you know the kind) to see the Apollo 11 movie and afterwards she tells you she had no idea about the whole rendezvous method of getting to/from the lunar surface
we're all gonna die single

[Anonymous No.12710585]

2hr to starlink launch in case you forgot

>>12706453

[Anonymous No.12710586]

>>12710570
we're gonna die single, but thanks to spacex, the future doesn't seem so sad

[Anonymous No.12710588]

>>12710500
It also leads to the collapse of colonies on unforgiving alien worlds, I'm not sure you'd make for a good colonist.

[Anonymous No.12710613]

>>12710412
Selection bias, because you only ever see the ones who don't pass

[Anonymous No.12710621]

>>12710588
factionalism is inevtiable once the colony gets big enough. But that's so far out it's irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.12710640]

>>12710489
Bring back WIS

[Anonymous No.12710645]

>>12707992
>Up here . . .
>YOU'LL FLOAT TOO

[Anonymous No.12710648]

>>12710613
Noone passes irl, bailey jay, Natalie mars, that gamer kid, the conservative larping tranny, and all the others that the internet goes ape shit about are ugly as fuck in person

[Anonymous No.12710655]

>>12708035
>national socialism, war crimes, holocaust, extermination of gays and blacks
>who cares, I just wanna LAAAUNCH

[Anonymous No.12710666]

>>12708109
OTRAG? Oh you mean pogo oscillations until failure?

[Anonymous No.12710681]

>>12710655
>Once the rocket goes up, who cares where it comes down?
>That's not my department says Wernher von Braun.

[Anonymous No.12710683]

Prepare to check yer thread staging
>>12708003
>>12708003
>>12708003

[Anonymous No.12710684]

>>12708182
Falcon Heavy is the only rocket that can avoid needing to design the Europa Clipper to handle the solar intensity nearer to the Sun (because every other rocket is too small to avoid the gravity assist pathway that involves a Venus flyby).

[Anonymous No.12710686]

>>12710683
It's page 7 you bitch. Do you want the jannies to throw another tantrum?

[Sage No.12710688]

>this thread talking about trannies and nazis
Go to the real thread
>>12710432
>>12710432
>>12710432

[Anonymous No.12710690]

>>12708280
SpaceX's version of a pathfinder engine is any engine with a serial number outdated by at least 10. If they don't get fucked up in transit and installation, they launch. If they fuck up the launch, the engines weren't useful for the final product anyway.

[Anonymous No.12710693]

>>12710686
That thread was already here when some faggot started this one.

[Anonymous No.12710728]

>>12710693
>02/15/21(Mon)05:32:26 No.12707992
>02/15/21(Mon)05:39:11 No.12708003

[Anonymous No.12710735]

>>12709709
>https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/08/rocket-scientist-says-that-boeing-squelched-work-on-propellant-depots/
>Publicly, in the early and mid-2010s, proponents of the large SLS rocket were critical of depots because they asserted the technology was not ready for prime time. Then-NASA Administrator Charles Bolden also said the agency could not plan its exploration plans around the Falcon Heavy and propellant depots because the SpaceX rocket was not a real rocket.
>"Let's be very honest again," Bolden said in a 2014 interview. "We don't have a commercially available heavy lift vehicle. Falcon 9 Heavy may someday come about. It's on the drawing board right now. SLS is real. You've seen it down at Michoud. We're building the core stage. We have all the engines done, ready to be put on the test stand at Stennis... I don't see any hardware for a Falcon 9 Heavy, except that he's going to take three Falcon 9s and put them together and that becomes the Heavy. It's not that easy in rocketry."
>SpaceX privately developed the Falcon Heavy rocket for about $500 million, and it flew its first flight in February 2018. It has now flown three successful missions. NASA has spent about $14 billion on the SLS rocket and related development costs since 2011. That rocket is not expected to fly before at least mid or late 2021.
One of the top comments:
>What's this? A Republican backing welfare programs for rich aerospace contractors? Never!
Now the Wikipedia article:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Bolden
>On May 23, 2009, President Barack Obama announced the nomination of Bolden as NASA administrator and Lori Garver as deputy NASA administrator.[3] Both were confirmed by the Senate by unanimous consent on July 15, 2009.
The fuck are those liberal idiots talking about?

[Sage No.12710757]

>>12710686
The one we linked has been going on for the same amount of time as this meme thread.

[Anonymous No.12710979]

Starlink webcast live.

[Anonymous No.12711081]

>>12710353
Is that a fucking wuya fan art pic?

[Anonymous No.12711125]

>>12711081
yup. r63 threads are weekly on co. we have similar tranoid discussions every week

[Anonymous No.12711159]

Lmao the starlink falcon 9 couldn't stick the landing

[Anonymous No.12711361]

>>12711159

[Anonymous No.12711370]

>>12709743
the power of hydrogen

[Anonymous No.12711711]

>>12708035
To reach the Moon, I would do it all again and more.