We will colonize Venus

[Anonymous No.12684877]

Marsfags are GAY.

Venus has sufficient gravity, and sufficient atmospheric density to terraform into a livable world. All that carbon is perfect for seeding a lush green world. H2SO4 is in great quantities on Venus, remove the S and you've got water and oxygen. Oceans on venus, imagine the future.

But instead you're craving the barren sandblasted space rock which is noob tier planetary exploration in some vain hope to relive the 1950's alien craze.
Grow up, mature adults realize our future is on VENUS

[Anonymous No.12684886]

You said it yourself, H2SO4 is in great quantities kek. How long would it take to turn the sulferic acid into breathable air and actual water? Venus is also really fucking hot

[Anonymous No.12684893]

>>12684877
>sulfuric acid clouds
>insane heat
>piss yellow
>same gravity well as earth
fuck that shit

[Anonymous No.12684897]

>>12684886
The reason it's deadly is because it's reactive.
Since it's reactive it's easily changed.

All you need is to program a microorganism to reproduce and change the atmosphere for you. Create oceans, create an oxygen atmosphere. It can be done through bioengineering.

[Anonymous No.12684908]

>>12684877
We want to get away from the expanding Sun, not closer

[Anonymous No.12684914]

>>12684908
Pluto it is then

[Anonymous No.12684924]

Even if you could terraform Venus one day it will have a massive resurfacing event in which the entire planet will be covered in lava.

[Anonymous No.12684928]

>>12684908

im definitely gonna be here in a billion years bro

[Anonymous No.12684945]

>>12684877
>Mars is too hard, let's try literal hell first

[Anonymous No.12684948]

>>12684908
Moron.

[Anonymous No.12684960]

>>12684908
this, Venus has already had the habitable zone move beyond it and the Earth is now borderline, Mars will be inhabited long after both Venus and the Earth are rendered uninhabitable by the ever hotter sun

[Anonymous No.12684966]

>>12684897
Lmao ok do it. Where is your microorganism? >>12684908

[Anonymous No.12685268]

>>12684893
you can spray a bunch of catalyst particles everywhere and acid will slowly disappear

[Anonymous No.12685272]

>>12684908
retard

[Anonymous No.12686689]

It still takes some millions of years until the winds on Venus accelerated the planet‘s rotation to match earth’s.

[Anonymous No.12686711]

>>12684877
Based venuschad, have fun becoming deformed freaks from living in 1/3 g marscucks

[Anonymous No.12686717]

>>12685272
>>12684948
What? The ultimate goal of space colonization is ensuring we as a species survive the red giant stage of the Sun

[Anonymous No.12686726]

>>12686717
Dumbass.

[Anonymous No.12686739]

Venus scares me.

[Anonymous No.12686796]

>>12686739
you'll never be an explorer

[Anonymous No.12686990]

>>12686717
kys you absolute brainlet

[Anonymous No.12687073]

>>12684877

>Humanity will actually colonize 0 other planets.

Most people don't understand that colonizing planets is basically pointless when you have a vehicle capable of sustaining human life in space for years on end (an interplanetary spaceship) and a practically limitless amount raw materials in much weaker gravity wells (earth's moon, asteroids, pluto, mercury, other plant's moons). Sure maybe in the future with better rockets you might set up outposts for tourism & science or send robots down to do something. But living on an alien planet is stupid when you can just build a million O'Neil cylinders with earth-gravity and atmosphere and orbit them around the same planet.

[Anonymous No.12687098]

>>12686717
That's billions of years from now. Venus is thousands of years from now. More than enough time to use our multiplanetary might to master interstellar travel. We need to make it to the next planet over before we can reasonably expect to reach the next star.

[Anonymous No.12687104]

>>12687073
I would prefer another rock. You'll never get the same size complex interacting ecosystems in your phallic cylinders.

[Anonymous No.12687152]

>>12687104
Why the fuck would you want an ecosystem? The point of the thing is to provide a sustainable+mildly pleasant environment for your meat-bag exoskeleton to sit in while you program bots, VR chat with the bois, play season 42069 of fortnite, and download the latest whipped corn+onions paste recipes for your cafeteria bots to whip up.

[Anonymous No.12687268]

>>12687073
Issac Arthur deserves to be dropped through the earths atmosphere for creating you fags.

[Anonymous No.12687654]

>>12687073
Every one of these parasitic stations will be wholly dependent on materials gathered from terrestrial bodies and will starve if these people decide to stop trade.

[Anonymous No.12687682]

>>12687152
>Why the fuck would you want an ecosystem?

I like bird watching. Wild animals are awesome.

[Anonymous No.12687688]

>>12687654
>Cylinder fags are just the latest version of cityfags

Makes sense.

[Anonymous No.12687702]

>>12687073
>when you have a vehicle capable of sustaining human life in space for years on end (an interplanetary spaceship)
>sustaining human life in space for years on end
>interplanetary spaceship
>for years on end
fucking retard im surprised you figured out how to post

a trip to fucking mars will be several months in a tiny tin can wasting away to zero gee
how the fuck do you connect the ability to do that to the ability to construct multi kilometre long space habitats with full earth gravity and a population in the millions? why the hell are you putting a small vessel that can carry maybe a couple hundred people to mars on the same level as setting up the entire asteroid mining infastructure required to support your trillion dollar celebrity clubhouse?

I dont have a problem with space habitats but holy fuck man imagine thinking they're gonna compeletely replace planetary colonization, let alone thinking that it'd be easier.
people will have been living on mars for centuries before one of your giant space dildos gets built.

[Anonymous No.12687974]

>>12687702
All you'd need to build a permanently habitable satellite is some sort resource extraction operation on the moon.

And when I say "colony" I am implying some kind of large-scale habitation by a productive civilian population, not a glorified antarctic research station that is resupplied by rocket. Moon basing, asteroid mining, and setting up the infrastructure to support those activities is a way more productive endeavor than "MUH Elonburg mars colony".

[Anonymous No.12688042]

>>12687974
you've completely ignored my post, it doesn't matter if you think it's more productive if it's harder, more expensive and more time consuming in exchange for something slightly better than domes on mars. your hypothetical space habitat will be completely reliant on massive lunar and asteroid infastructure, as well as supplies from earth, with no hope of ever being self sufficient.
building a dome city on mars is guaranteed to be cheaper, easier and safer than an o'neill cyclinder, with immediate access to the resources of an entire planet, with the only disadvantage being the lower gravity (and we're not even sure that that matters either)
I'm not saying you're wrong to be excited for space habitats, most people will probably be living in them at some point, but saying that they're going to surpass mars as a focus for space colonization any time soon, that mars is forever going to just be the site for the equivelent of a fucking antarctic research station is pure delusion.

[Anonymous No.12688055]

>>12687974
>Moon basing, asteroid mining, and setting up the infrastructure to support those activities is a way more productive endeavor than "MUH Elonburg mars colony".

By what measure? Mars basing, asteroid mining, and setting up infrastructure activities....

Same shit. All of it is better than sportsball bowls.

[Anonymous No.12688083]

>>12684928
> billion years actually

[Anonymous No.12688086]

>>12688083
5 billion sorry by 5 key of fucked

[Anonymous No.12688125]

>>12688042

I appreciate that it is more expensive build a large scale habitable satellite than a Mars base. I could even see us having some planetary presence there before people start asteroid mining. But I think planetary colonization will only ever be a novelty because I see no way for it to produce enough value for a government or company to support it.

By setting up some space station or base at the moon, you can gather the materials to construct more orbital infrastructure without having to move stuff out of earth's gravity well. Building permanent habitats could allow people to mine metallic asteroids who's potential contents of rare earth-elements and precious metals might justify the cost of such a mission.

Mars, by contrast, is to far away to provide materials for earth-orbit construction projects. And unless it has some super-valuable and super-accessible resource, I see no point in going to mars other than scientific research. The economics of a Mars colony do not make sense to me.

[Anonymous No.12688182]

>>12684877
>>12684877
Whats will all the venus shills

[Anonymous No.12688195]

>>12688182
Isaac Arthur.

[Anonymous No.12688266]

>>12684877
>>sufficient gravity, and sufficient atmospheric density to terraform into a livable world
but there's barely any water and hydrogen in general.
>>H2SO4 is in great quantities on Venus
it's tens of ppm at best. As in an order of magnitude less concentrated than CO2 is in Earth's atmosphere. Extracting significant quantities will be challenging.
>>Oceans on venus
there probably ain't enough water/hydrogen to do that.

[Anonymous No.12688292]

>>12684945
literally all you need are balloons and you have a permanent base

[Anonymous No.12688295]

>>12686739
Earth scares me more

[Anonymous No.12688304]

>>12688182
we are saving you from your stupid

[Anonymous No.12688308]

>>12688292
>balloons
>permanent

[Anonymous No.12688319]

>>12687688
I figure they'll be the space equivalent of logistics hubs, prosperous but dependent on a thriving interplanetary economy. Maybe a habitat which controls a "hinterland" of asteroids could fill its' own needs, but that's a maybe.

[Anonymous No.12688323]

>>12684877
Dear residents of demonically besieged worlds:
Keep your impure hands off Perelandra. Our world is uninhabitable for your kind, neither for it’s temperature nor chemical composition of its atmosphere, but for its virgin purity. Intruders and Satans will be left-hooked and thrown into the underworld.
Sincerely,
Sons and Daughters of the unfallen. You had your chance, and you ruined it, Pax

[Anonymous No.12688344]

>>12684877
Mars is a Roman god who will call you gay when try to live on him.
Venus is a beautiful Roman goddess who will accept you and snuggle you with her warmth.
So if you aren't a faggot, Venus is the only choice.

[Anonymous No.12688353]

>>12684877
lets terraform earth so that orcs can't live here instead

[Anonymous No.12688365]

>>12684877
The planet has days 259 earth days long. So nkght and day take months to occur. The pressure is 20,000 greater than our atmosphere. Thats pressure beyond even the bottom of the ocean is incapable of producing. The average temperature duw to a 97% CO2 atmosphere with 2 percent carbon monoxide and argon filling the rest is above 900 fahrenheit. This planet is the closest thing to hell after the sun in the solar system. Then there is the crust which is basically molten with no visible difference by seismographs between the crust and the mantle. Your landing on either lava or magma. Take a your pic. When soviet venera landed it had littlenover 3 minutes to record the surface because of sulphric acid rain and a lava plume destroying it. Anon thats either a suicide wish or assisted suicide courtesy of nasa. Either way your dead

[Anonymous No.12688410]

>>12684908
when it comes to that we can just use starlifting to postpone the red giant phase and we'll get shit tons of resources out of it we just need to turn that hydrogen into what we want

[Anonymous No.12688428]

>>12688410
>just use starlifting
>just

[Anonymous No.12688439]

>>12688428
TBF that's something that's probably not gonna happen in the next thousand years or so there's plenty of time to figure that out.

[Anonymous No.12688506]

I don`t want to go to Venus, is too sunny and too hot.
I want to go to Mars and see the alien pyramids.

[Anonymous No.12688509]

>>12684914
Now, that`s a good one. Pluto is nice. Is far away, quiet and it has water.

[Anonymous No.12688559]

>>12684908
If we're here in a billion years we'll just tow the Sun somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.12689060]

>>12688125
again, you're just mindlessly repeating that space habitats are better and thus will take priority.
the infastructure and ability to build and support an o'neill cyclinder isn't just going to magically appear someday, noone is working on it and it'll take centuries to develop with the end result being inferior to a mars dome with the exception to a few "advantages"
a mars colony, on the other hand, is far more attainable, and plenty of people are working on it.
isaac arthur has poisoned your mind.

>Mars, by contrast, is to far away to provide materials for earth-orbit construction projects
so what? the only one obsessing over these is you
> I see no point in going to mars other than scientific research
because its there, and we can there sooner, cheaper
>The economics of a Mars colony do not make sense to me.
the alphabet probably doesn't make sense to you

[Anonymous No.12689076]

>>12689060
cont.
also, you claimed planetary colonization was a meme because you "see no way for it to produce enough value for a government or company to support it"
if they wont support that, then why the hell would they support space habitats? infinitely more difficult, with the only real justification being a way to address overpopulation (and if you can build an o'neill cylinder, you could just build an arcology instead)