A Bill Gates venture aims to spray dust into the atmosphere to block the sun

[Anonymous No.12681426]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/arielcohen/2021/01/11/bill-gates-backed-climate-solution-gains-traction-but-concerns-linger/

>Microsoft’s billionaire founder Bill Gates is financially backing the development of sun-dimming technology that would potentially reflect sunlight out of Earth’s atmosphere, triggering a global cooling effect. The Stratospheric Controlled Perturbation Experiment (SCoPEx), launched by Harvard University scientists, aims to examine this solution by spraying non-toxic calcium carbonate (CaCO3) dust into the atmosphere — a sun-reflecting aerosol that may offset the effects of global warming (https://www.reuters.com/article/climate-change-geoengineering-idUSL8N2IY3SM).).

Widespread research into the efficacy of solar geoengineering has been stalled for years due to controversy. Opponents believe such science comes with unpredictable risks, including extreme shifts in weather patterns not dissimilar to warming trends we are already witnessing. Environmentalists similarly fear that a dramatic shift in mitigation strategy will be treated as a green light to continue emitting greenhouse gases with little to no changes in current consumption and production patterns.

SCoPEx will take a small step in its early research this June near the town of Kiruna, Sweden, where the Swedish Space Corporation has agreed to help launch a balloon carrying scientific equipment 12 miles (20 km) high. The launch will not release any stratospheric aerosols. Rather, it will serve as a test to maneuver the balloon and examine communications and operational systems. If successful, this could be a step towards a second experimental stage that would release a small amount of CaCO3 dust into the atmosphere (https://room.eu.com/news/experiment-to-dim-sunlight-with-chalk-dust-under-review).).

The exact amount of CaCO3 needed to cool the planet is unknown, and SCoPEx scientists similarly cannot confirm whether it is the best stratospheric aerosol for the job.

[Anonymous No.12681436]

>>12681426
ACCELERATE

[Anonymous No.12681440]

>>12681426
I’m starting to think that Bill Gates is retarded. His favourite writer is Pinker so no wonder but he’s demonstrably wrong on so many things e.g. overpopulation

[Anonymous No.12681453]

>the plot of fucking Snowpiercer

[Anonymous No.12681480]

I thought they wanted to reduce pollution

[Anonymous No.12681534]

>>12681453
>reference twatter-leftoid's favorite soap drama instead of The Matrix
Fuck zoomers

[Anonymous No.12681545]

>>12681426
>A BIG STEP TOWARDS MAYBE STARTING TO DO SOME VERY LIMITED RESEARCH

[Anonymous No.12682078]

I'm just thinking: what if Bill Gates is not evil, but actually legitimately mad? What if corona affair is not a clever plan to push us into a new normal cyberpunk, but a sign of actual madness?

[Anonymous No.12682094]

>should we maybe reduce our energy consumption to everyone's benefit with no downsides??
>no, we should expend even more energy and resources to spray dust into the atmosphere to block the sun and irreversibly change our earths ecosystem
>what could POSSIBLY go wrong!?!?
It's all so tiresome...

[Anonymous No.12682103]

I don't get it. What's supposed to be bad about it?

[Anonymous No.12682105]

>>12681440
He was never a genius or anything. Just tech savvy and a good salesman.
But I think you're right. He's gone smooth-brained in his old age.

[Anonymous No.12682118]

Isnt this the thing they did in animatrix?

[Anonymous No.12682124]

>>12681534
>The Matrix
You mean the Animatrix, wannabe neurodivergent

[Anonymous No.12682125]

>>12682094
>reduce our energy consumption
Ok luddite

[Anonymous No.12682170]

>>12681426
they only want to use about 100 g to 2 kg of material. That's it. This is about a 1 liter bottle's worth of powder. That's it. That is barely anything at all!
https://www.keutschgroup.com/scopex
The outcry over this is a bit much.

[Anonymous No.12682175]

>>12682094
>reduce our energy consumption to everyone's benefit with no downsides??
t. smoothbrain

[Anonymous No.12682183]

>>12682175
t. mouthbreather

[Anonymous No.12682203]

>>12681426
Go for it. The time has passed for small measures, we need geoengineering to stop climate change.

[Anonymous No.12682217]

>>12682170
2kg of calcium carbonate, total? Then they would never use it ever again?

[Anonymous No.12683295]

>>12681436
Bump

[Anonymous No.12683313]

>>12681534
What if he meant the movie from 2013?

[Anonymous No.12683959]

>>12681426
Chemtrails are a hoax.

[Anonymous No.12683961]

>Chemtrails
>Population control
>IDtag
Bill Gates is everything that is evil.

[Anonymous No.12683975]

You can do this for basically little cost. All you have to do is alter airline fuel and flight paths. So they create maximum contrails during the day and minimum contrails at night.

Contrails during the day reflect more energy from space to space. Than they reflect from the surface back to the surface. At night their absence helps surface radiation escape into space.

Already scientifically proven by the 3 days after 9/11. When the lack of airline contrails caused temperatures to dip 3 degrees.

[Anonymous No.12683992]

>>12683313
What else would he mean?

[Anonymous No.12683997]

>>12681453

[Anonymous No.12684015]

>>12682094
I just gave the second world a call and told them we've already used up the available pollution quota so sadly they'll have to cancel their growth for another century or two to balance it out. For the environment. They sounded positive when they hung up.

[Anonymous No.12684038]

>>12683961
It's like he browses schizo threads and thinks
>huh, that's actually a good idea

[Anonymous No.12684061]

>>12681480
They want the worst of both worlds.
They want a dramatic decrease in consumerism but also want to maintain a global economy and government.
Essentially they want to be the international lords of a worldwide peasantry. Complete domination of the entire world.

[Anonymous No.12684062]

>>12684061
they want you to give up everything, even natural human instinct, while they continue to be jet-setting elite.

[Anonymous No.12684077]

What's interesting about the feudalism of the past is that, although your local lord may have been a bastard, may have demanded the sweat of your brow and a tribute of your property, he would at least leave who you were as a human being in tact. That isn't enough for the new feudalism, the new lords demand you submit in both body and soul.

[Anonymous No.12684168]

>>12682170
Yeah they're being as cautious as you can reasonably get. This NWO conspiracy stuff sells though, and it's like Bill Gates chooses projects that will stoke it on purpose.

[Anonymous No.12685103]

>>12681426 >Bill Gates venture aims to spray dust into the atmosphere to block the sun
>being this mad scientist.
the ONLY viable + responsible to fix climate-change is reforestation.
*everywhere we can, & think ahead correctly.

[Anonymous No.12685128]

>>12681426
Brace yourselves:
The Winter is coming

https://youtu.be/nX5PwfEMBM0

https://youtu.be/BudVEHxqE6I

[Anonymous No.12685159]

>>12682103
> Opponents believe such science comes with unpredictable risks, including extreme shifts in weather patterns not d

[Anonymous No.12685167]

>>12682124
Fuck off you tryhard faggot
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ok6rKCN9I70

[Anonymous No.12685170]

>>12683992
The comic from 1982

[Anonymous No.12685180]

Why can't we launch giant sails into space that would unfold and block the sun? We could then control the amount of solar radiation the planet receives and if shit doesn't work out, the sails could be folded back up.

[Anonymous No.12685322]

>>12681426 >Bill Gates venture aims to spray dust into the atmosphere to block the sun
>being this mad scientist.
>>12685180
>launch giant sails into space
Giant-unfolding/retracting-space-mesh-screens-in-heliocentric-orbit-shadowing-Earth.gif

[Anonymous No.12685343]

>>12684077

[Anonymous No.12685355]

>>12682103
What can go wrong? What if they use too much and cast us into an ice age?
>Well golly at least we aren't globally warming!
Solar cells will stop working. But beyond that, it'll cause a mass migration with people moving even further south to avoid snowfalls. What can go wrong?

And this isn't even getting into how it'll impact airplanes colliding with these particles, which will require more frequent maintenance on airplanes (more energy consumption), and irregular displacements of the chemicals causing isolated and seemingly unpredictable sunlight "leakages" at certain areas, in effect, isolating and amplifying the effect of global warming on select regions.

The list goes on and on and on and on. The primary problem is they don't fucking know what they're doing.

[Anonymous No.12685363]

>>12682170
I'm expected to believe 100g of this chemical is meant to be a quantity meaningful enough to get some research done? How is that enough for them to get any meaningful results? At best it's a waste of fuel to spread it into the atmosphere. At worst, it's a chemical that can be meaningfully measured in that minute amount... which means that citing that small number to assuage doubts is lying at best and moronic at worst.

[Anonymous No.12685381]

>>12685355
>But beyond that, it'll cause a mass migration with people moving even further south to avoid snowfalls.
This desu, the global south must never let in untold masses of northern migrants. They would destroy our culture and way of life.

[Anonymous No.12685389]

>>12685343

how the fuck is that guy a schizo
this is true and based

[Anonymous No.12685414]

>>12685389
>Slaves were viewed as human

[Anonymous No.12685469]

>>12685322
>Giant-unfolding/retracting-space-mesh-screens-in-heliocentric-orbit-shadowing-Earth.gif
Yeah pretty much. Why couldn't that work?

[Anonymous No.12686086]

>>12681426
Why are people so against this? We need this! Global Warming is causing problems already, it's going to only get worse. I am happy to see some effort put into proactive solutions.

[Anonymous No.12686138]

>>12684077
>That isn't enough for the new feudalism, the new lords demand you submit in both body and soul.
Yes, the reactionary feudalists who unironically want to return to Medieval feudalism would never demand you submit to their religion of choice.
You can trust them, definitely not schizos in the midst of a latent psychotic break posting anti-technology screeds on a website with their personal computers.

[Anonymous No.12686153]

>>12685469
No one would make money off of it so no one cares, unfortunately

[Anonymous No.12686322]

>>12685363
part of the drive behind this geoengineering approach is that it's so cheap. You don't need to put that much crap in the atmosphere to have a large effect. At least that's what we think. They want to release a plume of material and see how it spreads out as it gets further from the balloon. While this seems sort of dumb, we don't understand fluids all that well at very high reynolds numbers. They also want to see how the aerosol scatters light and monitor any changes to atmospheric chemistry. I'm saying all this because I went to this dude's talk. I'm still pretty iffy about geoengineering and in fact solar geoengineering could have negative effects on crop growth.
https://cen.acs.org/environment/climate-change/Solar-geoengineering-depress-crop-yields/96/i33
>>12685180
putting up aerosols is cheaper and such particles put in the atmosphere won't have a very long life time anyway.

[Anonymous No.12686346]

>>12686322
Exactly, so the aerosol in the small amount is predicted to have measurably large effects. Yet, they don't even understand what these effects may be, nor do they have any understanding in the slightest on long term ramifications. All the while, these same NPCs will cry for years about how we're heading toward irreversible catastrophes due to anthropogenic climate change. It's all so tiresome.

[Anonymous No.12686388]

>>12681440
he's not wrong on overpopulation though

[Anonymous No.12686411]

>>12686346
>Certain doom from global warming
>Potential risks from geoengineering
I'll go with the second option. I am happy this is happening this early though. I thought we were going to have to wait until global warming started affecting China for actual action to start taking place.

[Anonymous No.12686422]

>>12686411
>Anthropogenic climate change is irreversible
>So let's make the opposite change via anthropogenic means!
Stellar idea. What can go wrong?

[Anonymous No.12686428]

>>12686422
*Hits pipe*
Hol' up. So you're telling me that climate change is irreversible, and our method of fixing this is to reverse it?

[Anonymous No.12687968]

>>12681426
So he's basically Mr. Burns

[Anonymous No.12688001]

>>12686388
he is, though

[Anonymous No.12688046]

>>12686086
causing problems by making me shovel this fucking snow...

[Anonymous No.12688106]

>>12686346
It's calcium carbonate, not a crazy nano-particle or something. You realize rocket launches and even airplanes put more harmful stuff up there incidentally on a regular basis.

[Anonymous No.12688759]

>>12681426
>Temperatures drop because light from the sun doesn't go through
>underdeveloped civilizations, aka niggers will die because they can't adapt
Uuuh, based?

[Anonymous No.12688909]

>>12681426
This is the equivalent of only treating the symptoms of a disease instead of the underlying cause, waiting for everything to explode.

[Anonymous No.12688920]

>>12681426
>Geoengineering
>Spray dust in Atmosphere

Chemtrails !?

[Anonymous No.12689108]

>>12688909
Funny enough that's the first thing they address here:
https://youtu.be/w_qkmavwE54
Even if we somehow get emissions to 0 the "disease" wouldn't be cured yet.

[Anonymous No.12689126]

>>12681534
Its based on a book retard

[Anonymous No.12690159]

>>12681453
Eat the bugs!!!

[Anonymous No.12690477]

>>12690159

[Anonymous No.12690483]

>>12681426
Bill Gates is that evil vampire guy from Skyrim confirmed.

[Anonymous No.12690576]

>>12683961
Don't forget
>Windows

[Anonymous No.12690591]

Your flesh is a relic, a mere vessel. Hand over your flesh and a new world awaits you. We demand it.

[Anonymous No.12690641]

>buying farmland while starting a project to alter the climate
This bill fella is acting a tad suspicious

[Anonymous No.12690687]

>>12684061
>They want a dramatic decrease in consumerism
What's wrong with that?

[Anonymous No.12690711]

>>12686388
The Malthusian dilemma has not been considered seriously by anyone for like half a century. Asking someone about overpopulation is essentially a litmus test to see if they are fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.12690733]

>>12690711
so what we just keep pumping out people endlessly with zero negative consequences?

[Anonymous No.12690769]

>>12690733
Yeah, actually. We have enough clean water and arable land (as well as hydroponic tech) to sustain 10x as many people as exist now. Housing them is trivial.

[Anonymous No.12690773]

>>12690733
World population growth is slowing every year for decades, and is projected to continue slowing. In fact, in most first world nations there is negative population growth, indicating a need for native populations to breed MORE as opposed to importing tens of millions of foreigners from third world shitholes. To add, the capacity for food production is not even close to being stressed on a worldwide level, humanity could easily support tens of billions of people if it were required though that will never likely be the case. Put simply, outside of an ecological disaster that makes modern food production tecgniques unusable, there will never be a situation in which humans as a whole are fighting to be able to eat. In such a situation, then, your argument is not that overpopulation is a problem, but ecology.

It is literally non-issue that has been pushed by batshit insane politicians for decades without recourse because Americans and indeed most westerners are too absorbed by decadence and modern material goods consumption to bother learning about anything that doesn't provide immediate satisfaction to them.

[Anonymous No.12690782]

>>12690773
not argument per say so much as question, I don't know enough about it to argue, I just wanted to ask

[Anonymous No.12690822]

>>12690782
you dare come onto the internet expecting a discussion and not to argue? balls of steel on this guy

[Anonymous No.12690950]

>>12686411
>Certain doom from global warming
LOL for coastal cities and even then not most of them, otherwise if we never figure out how to pull CO2 out of the atmosphere sure, we're doomed. But dumping extra shit in the air to keep it 'cooler' is not a real solution either. Afterall they can dump as much shit as they want into the air but as long as greenhouse gas emissions stay up, we will turn into venus eventually.

[Anonymous No.12690965]

>>12682094
Ok the first thing you can do right now is to stop bringing third worlders into developed countries, giving them a giant carbon footprint while taking resources away from countries trying to actually solve these problems.

[Anonymous No.12690967]

>>12681426
Reminder that rich people can do whatever they want with their money and you should stop being jealous

[Anonymous No.12690974]

>>12690773
>To add, the capacity for food production is not even close to being stressed on a worldwide level, humanity could easily support tens of billions of people if it were required though that will never likely be the case. Put simply, outside of an ecological disaster that makes modern food production tecgniques unusable

0IQ take. Modern farming is absolutely catastrophic to the environment and entirely unsustainable. If you want sustainable farming you are going to have to go back to middle ages shit of letting fields lie fallow and nuke production by minimum 50%.

[Anonymous No.12690992]

>>12690974
"no no no anon, the farming techniques and technology that have only exploded in productivity for the past 70 years are totally unsustainable, we need to go back to using techniques from a thousand years ago or we're all fucked"

Go fuck yourself luddite retard nobody is going to take anything you say seriously.

[Anonymous No.12691007]

>>12690992
Productivity is has exploded BECAUSE it is unsustainable. In my area, one of the best aquifers in the world is about to be undrinkabke in the next decade thanks to nitrogen leeching and our once world class trout rivers are nearly running dry thanks to intensive irrigation.

[Anonymous No.12691031]

>>12691007
So your argument is that because your specific area has been harmed by modern farming that the ENTIRETY of our agricultural model is unsustainable and thus we have to regress to using faming techniques that were themselves improved upon countless times, CENTURIES before the Green Revolution which makes heavy use of nitrogen?

And you say MY point of view is a 0IQ take? Motherfucker you are so dumb you have to hold your breath to type

[Anonymous No.12691042]

>>12691031
Heavy application of non renewable petrochemical based fertilisers and intensive irrigation is the basis of modern farming, you can find all about the massively damaging effects such as I provided with a quick Google search instead of shit flinging and calling me names.

[Anonymous No.12691250]

>>12691042
Your argument is disingenuous on its face. Ecological disaster is not the basis of modern farming, nor the necessary result of it. Your argument is akin to saying that pollution of the air via fossil fuels means we should cease using electricity and live like ye old peasants did. It's an argument for improvement of technique, not its elimination. As for shitflinging, you can go fuck yourself. You come in here with your brainlet take that the solution to our problem is to use the incredible technique of crop rotation, which would result in the direct starvation of BILLIONS, and you have the fucking balls to say anything about my IQ? Stop replying you fucking moron, go and put on your fucking tunic and till some fields with an ox.

[Anonymous No.12691348]

>>12690950
>Retarded: the post.

[Anonymous No.12691366]

>>12681426
>study superaerosols for """""Preventing global warming"""""
>Find something very powerful, very cheap, not too long lasting.
>Make bunker near equator
>Hoard food
>Release a superfuckton of the aerosol, go sit in bunker
>All percipitation on a global scale for the coming 50 months is snow.
WOW WE SOLVED GLOBAL WARMING AND OVERPOPULATION BROS!

This will happen, it's not a question of if some deranged billionaire decides to do it but when. The more we study climate engineering solutions the closer we get to that point.

Hopefully a limited run experiment coincides with some local famine and some nation considers it an attempted genocide and decides to shoot down both the billionaire retard and his flying experiment.

[Anonymous No.12692202]

>>12690687
is reading the whole post difficult for you?

[Anonymous No.12692298]

>>12691250
You're fucking retarded. Enjoy your groundwater being poisoned.

[Anonymous No.12692313]

>>12692298
As opposed to fucking everyone dying, real hot take there from the room temperature IQ anon. The answer isn't to develop farming technology to reduce risk to poisoning groundwater, no we should all live like fucking 11th century peasants lmao

[Anonymous No.12692314]

>>12681426
BASED

[Anonymous No.12692384]

>>12684168
He probably does, If I had his money I'd be doing it too just to fuck with the schizos a bit

[Anonymous No.12692398]

>>12681426
BLACK HOLE SUN, WON'T YOU COME? WON'T YOU COOOOOME?

[Anonymous No.12692918]

YOU WILL OWN NOTHING
YOU WILL EAT THE BUGS
YOU WILL LIVE IN A POD
YOU WILL ENJOY THE SIMULATED SUNLIGHT
YOU WILL BE HAPPY

[Anonymous No.12693332]

>>12692918
YOU VILL EAT ZE BUGS
YOU VILL LIVE IN PODS

You VILL wear ze Mask
You VILL take ze Vaccine

You VILL get ze Bill Gates' chip implant
You VILL get ze mark of ze beast

You VILL obey ze authorities
You VILL have no freedom or privacy
You VILL accept ze Propaganda

You VILL be sterilized,
feminized and lobotomized

You VILL pay high taxes.
You VILL have a social credit score
You VILL rent your clothes

You VILL own nothing and you VILL be Happy

[Anonymous No.12693339]

>>12690773
That works as long as you have cheap, abundant energy.

[Anonymous No.12693355]

>>12690967
>Reminder that rich people can do whatever they want with their money
Assuming it's not illegal, or in the grey zone.

[Anonymous No.12693357]

They will take even the sun from us

[Anonymous No.12693400]

>>12690950
>we're doomed
no, you're just retarded

[Anonymous No.12693404]

>>12693357
You can thank the boomers for this.

[Anonymous No.12693598]

>>12686388
The easiest way to contribute to solving the overpopulation problem is to just kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.12693601]

>>12683992
The TV show.

[Anonymous No.12693636]

>>12693598
>>12688001
>>12690711
glad you are all in support of this
protip: they all won't stay there

[Anonymous No.12693686]

>>12690711
Because is not a fucking dilemma, it's a model that made sense in a particular period of time but is obsolete now that we can produce food at a faster rate. This doesn't mean that the dangers of overpopulation must be ignored. There are many things that can go wrong other than no having enough food for everyone.

[Anonymous No.12693769]

>>12690591
Praise the Onnissiah

[Anonymous No.12693790]

To the anon(s) who said that overpopulation is not a problem:
I despise you with all my hearth
You are a brainwashed ape
Environmental catastrophe has already happened and it is due to overpopulation
We are breathing toxic air
Limited resources are being exploited at an insane pace
Entire ecosystems have been eradicated or irreversibly damaged
Western culture has shattered due to twitter populism
If we reduced population to 10% of current level extreme poverty would not be a thing
Like, whatsoever
I despise you with all my hearth
And hope you suffer
Greatly

[Anonymous No.12693794]

>>12691250
>which would result in the direct starvation of BILLIONS
we should be so lucky

[Anonymous No.12693801]

>>12693598
No, since that only eliminates one life. It's far superior to dedicate oneself to policies that will eliminate millions/billions of third-world undesirables. Far more efficient.

[Anonymous No.12693814]

>>12693790
They're moderns, you have to understand their worldview. It's 100% quantitative, land exists for breeding like roaches, because we need *more* people instead of *better* or *happier* people. Look up the mere addition paradox, this is what liberalism and utilitarianism do to the human brain.

[Anonymous No.12693824]

>>12681426
>Invest in solar, they said. It's the energy of the future, they said.
lol

[Anonymous No.12693854]

>>12693814
With how vehemently neoliberals pretend to hate utilitarianism, they sure look like crypto-utilitarians to me
Also
REPRODUCTION IS A HUMAN RIGHT
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I want to gas them so much

[Anonymous No.12693954]

>>12693854
will you gas yourself included?

[Anonymous No.12693957]

>>12693790
kill yourself and help your cause. Thanks

[Anonymous No.12693972]

>>12693954
>>12693957
seethe and dilate
you are not human beings

[Anonymous No.12694031]

>>12691250
>which would result in the direct starvation of BILLION
good.

[Anonymous No.12694063]

>>12694031
based

[Anonymous No.12694064]

>>12693972
>I'm a mentally ill retard
>I go REEEEEEEEE!!

[Anonymous No.12694065]

>>12693854
>neoliberals pretend to hate utilitarianism
They do? Neolib is utilitarianism at its finest. Your country is a polluted shithole? Good news, turns out it can get at least three times as polluted before large-scale ecological collapse, so get those third-world wombs a-pumpin', because the planet isn't brown enough yet! There's no such thing as the beauty of untouched nature and the dignity of a well-bred human being, just unused real estate and biomass to serve as cheap labor and votes.

[Anonymous No.12694072]

>>12694064
you aren't even coherent

[Anonymous No.12694080]

>>12694072
>I said a big word
>mommy will be proud.
congratulations on your psychosis.

[Anonymous No.12694083]

>>12694080
what is wrong with you?

[Anonymous No.12694088]

>>12694080
do ESLs really?

[Anonymous No.12694103]

>>12681534
The Matrix is about trannies

[Anonymous No.12694104]

>>12694083 >>12694088
NOOOOOOOO!!! a spazzoid loopy fucka said something nasty to me!!!!!

kys

[Anonymous No.12694109]

>>12693636
I fucking hate charts like these. What kind of retards make them? Obvious agendas.

[Anonymous No.12694116]

>>12690769
>We can have 10x as many people as now
>Assuming population doubles every 100 years (actual rate is about 70), we'll hit that bench mark in 250 years
>What's the problem?

[Anonymous No.12694122]

>>12694104
>can't greentext
>can't (you)
>is libtard
>still trying to fit in on 4channel
Let me ask again, what is wrong with you>

[Anonymous No.12694143]

>>12694122
>thinks he was quoting me.
nope, I said "NOOOOOOOO!!! a spazzoid loopy fucka said something nasty to me!!!!!"
you're the spazzoid.
learn to read

kys

[Anonymous No.12694150]

>>12693790
There are a lot of braindeads itt, but I agree with you.

>>12693814
Yeah, people don't seem to understand quantity != quality.

>>12690769
No, actually, we don't.
https://www.sciencealert.com/the-world-has-lost-a-third-of-its-farmable-land-in-the-last-40-years
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/only-60-years-of-farming-left-if-soil-degradation-continues/
The only reason we do these destructive methods is to feed an already retardedly huge population. It is an incredibly simple equation that even a retard like you can understand: lower the population and you lower human impact on the environment.

[Anonymous No.12694168]

>>12693814
Based Guenon reader

[Anonymous No.12694190]

>>12694168
You're correct.

[Anonymous No.12694236]

>>12694168
>>12693814
>>12694190
Hello, /lit/ bros

>>12694065
I agree with you, just don't say "well-bred" in public because normies are going to continue ignoring us if you do.

[Anonymous No.12694672]

>>12693636
Actually, I said very clearly that the solution to the "overpopulation" problem was that first world nations need to ENCOURAGE breeding in their own populace and stop importing tens of millions of foreign immigrants from developing nations.

>>12693790
Maybe if you cry more literally anyone will care about your retard hot take. Oh no some dumb faggot hates me, whatever will I do. You and the rest of your "SABE THE PLANET FROM HORRIBLE HUMAN VIRUS" ilk can do everyone a favor and end yourselves. The rest of us will focus on improving living conditions and using technological progress to solve problems, not whine like little fucking babies hoping for humanity to die.

[Anonymous No.12695009]

>>12681426
>YOU WILL NOT LOOK UP
>YOU WILL WEAR A MASK X6
>YOU WILL IGNORE ALL PROBES
>YOU WILL BUY THE CHIP
>YOU WILL GET TWO FOR ONE
>YOU WILL BE REDACTED
>YOU WILL EAT THE HUMANS
>YOU WILL FORGET
>YOU WILL NEVER REMEMBER
>>12681436
THIS (pic unrelated)

[Anonymous No.12695010]

>>12694672
Retards like you are why a global genocide of the mentally ill is justified.
You are not a human being.
Do not post on my board every again.

[Anonymous No.12695056]

>>12695010
Ever* again

Please join the rest of the "real" humans and contribute to lowering the global population by playing in traffic. We'll all miss you. Also lmao look at me posting you little baby bitch.

[Anonymous No.12695071]

>>12681426
Covid is a smoke screen for Copd induced by Heavy Metals in the lower atmosphere.

Chemtrails. Literally.

[Anonymous No.12695088]

>>12695056
Go to the gas chamber already

[Anonymous No.12695098]

>>12695088
lmao you don't have an argument bitch boi. The only gas chamber I'm gonna go to is your mum's room, where I'll continue to contribute to the overpopulation of the human race :^)

[Anonymous No.12695125]

>>12695098
>you don't have an argument
>proceeds to toss literal kindergarten-tier insults
I literally listed most major problems of overpopulation. Whatever the case, I hope you suffer and die and I won't be responding or checking this thread again. See, I got the last word. How does that make you feel, you little soi woketard tranny globohomo nigger?

[Anonymous No.12695144]

>>12695071
Think about Covid for a min.
No intermediate host.
Vaccines are made for cancer not virus.
Smokers seem to be immune due to resilience.

Massive Quantities of masks are shipped to the West from China but they don't protect you from viruses they only protect you from environmental pollutants.

The plot has thickened my friends.

[Anonymous No.12695149]

>>12695125
You didn't say shit, you just bitched about me not being a person. I'm not going to suffer and die, I'm going to have lots of kids and be happy. And there is NOTHING you can do about it lol. I don't care if you come back, I've already gotten my rocks off on your seething multiple times lmao

[Anonymous No.12695167]

>>12684077
>>12685322
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[Anonymous No.12695173]

>>12693790
They already are suffering.

[Anonymous No.12695461]

>>12695144
Another interesting fact:

Why are Chemtrail Conspiracy Scenes suddenly under attack after years of virtual neglect and all around scrutiny?

[Anonymous No.12695487]

>>12691250
The main problem with growth mongers and other lunatic ideologues like yourself is that in your greed and lust for "growth" you will destroy self-sustaining systems that have been functioning for millions of years.
It's ironic then that they are literally the most serious threat to humanity's chances of long term survival. Now stamp your feet, have a big tantrum and call me some names.

[Anonymous No.12695508]

>>12695149
Sorry buddy but the plan is already in motion, you cant stop it and pretending your position is less precarious than it actually is isn't going to change what happens in reality.

[Anonymous No.12695512]

>>12692313
The entire problem with you is that you actually believe there are no limits to technology - only a science illiterate politician or finance whacko, or teenage anime fan would believe such a thing.

So here you are spouting your amazingly intricate system of rationalizations for what basically amounts to literal gluttony. It's fucking hilarious and sad. Or it would be even more laughable if it weren't for the fact that you and your retarded cohorts basically run the world.

[Anonymous No.12695530]

>>12693400
yeah ikr, all of the humans in the precambrian period did so well, greenhouse gasses are a meme, venus is only inhabitable because its so close to the sun duh.

We are doomed if we don't solve air pollution eventually. We can not keep dumping greenhouse gases into the atmosphere without doing something about them. Be it through tons of trees and nature reserves or some other anti-greenhouse gas agent. Otherwise its 100% possible to make the earth inhabitable if humans spend enough time polluting and not doing anything to clean it up. Personally I think we'll solve this problem before it becomes a real issue, but the potential is still there.

I know I said a lot, and its hard for you to understand context when you have an extra chromosome. But just try reading slowly and thinking about what you're reading and it all might make sense, faggot.

[Anonymous No.12695542]

>>12693790
kys and dont have sex, faggot, solve your own problems

[Anonymous No.12695544]

>>12695487
The same arguments could be used against civilization at its core. Forests have existed for billions of years, are we to argue that trees shouldn't be chopped down and used for lumber at all? I said absolutely NOTHING about being attached to the growth of humanity's population, only that the idea we are nearing some catastrophe is farcical and hasn't been seriously considered by anyone remotely knowledgeable on the subject for decades. Which is utterly true. There is plentiful arable land and using modern technology we could easily feed the population ten times over. With regards to your delusions regarding the future of humanity: Our survival will be predicated on the continued advancement of technological innovation, NOT regression. Now take your puerile garbage back to the stone age where it belongs.

>>12695508
Can you go jerk off to a picture of some lakes or something and let the adults talk? You're not gonna do shit bubba

>>12695512
Your infantile evaluation of modern techniques is defeatist at its core. I am not saying technology has no limit, but that the solution to problems we have with current production is NOT to eschew them entirely --which would spell certain death for most of the world including your smoothbrain self-- but to improve upon them and reduce the occurrence of ecological disaster. There will always be some negative aspect of human society, as there would be even in your incredibly asinine "we need to go back to living like ye old Englishmen did in 1100AD." You would be bitching and moaning about something else equally pointless. The reason why me and my "cohorts" rule the world is because we realize that forward is the way to go, NOT backwards.

Now please stop typing on your electronic device that is fueled by energy producing harmful greenhouse gases, so people who are able to string coherent thoughts together can talk. Better yet, help the overpopulation problem by taking a swim in the nearest river with some lead flippers.

[Anonymous No.12695566]

>>12695544
How many centuries would fossil fuels have lasted humanity since the 50s without the asinine and completely irrational "growth" you and your retarded cohorts need to collect your returns and live your bloated lifestyles?

Nothing more than a cabal of thugs and gangsters like ye olde inbred princess of grease the 3rd.
Go fuck yourself. You're fucking gross.

[Anonymous No.12695588]

>>12695544
And to think. You've actually convinced yourself that it's the best thing for humanity

BWAHAHAH AH HAH AHHAHAHA

Amazing. Truly.

[Anonymous No.12695596]

>>12695566
>>12695588
And your solution is...? Some tyrannic despot arbitrarily deciding who could and could not breed? You seem to be arguing against the human nature of multiplication more than anything, the disasters of yesteryear are not fated in our future. The irony is you will never be satisfied, if humanity were at 2 billion instead of 8 you would STILL be bitching. Because it's all arbitrary and senseless. Bitch and cry all you want, no one will be fooled other than utter buffoons. But hey, due to rising population the absolute number of retards with you continues to rise every day! So maybe you can grift to some of them since people with functioning thought processes aren't buying it. Fortunately for humanity, progress will continue. You can choose to be a part of it or you can seethe while it happens, either way I'm quite happy.

As an aside, you appear to have a literal folder of "consumer" photos. That is hilarious. This must really rile you up huh buddy?

[Anonymous No.12695604]

>>12695596
My solution is no one from countries with above replacement fertility rates gets in, but
>nooooooooooooooooo
>what about muh returns
>muh burgers muh helicopters????

[Anonymous No.12695617]

>>12695596
"progress" will grind to a halt and humanity will regress to a pitiful neolithic state centuries prematurely thanks to your illogical ambition and completely anti-science irrational obsession with "economic growth"

yours is truly a cult like and self destructive mentality

[Anonymous No.12695631]

>>12695604
In the situation where first-world nations don't import anyone at all, and instead start GROWING population natively, what happens then? Just periodically cull populations to whatever numbers are arbitrarily decided to be optimum?

>>12695617
I don't even know why you bitch about such an eventuality, since it's practically what you desire. Humanity, living in balance with nature, without the benefit of technological innovation. Or some equally asinine take You call ME anti-science while still swearing humanity should live as we did 1000 years ago. At this point I am wondering if you are not actually some paid shill pushing an agenda lol, I honestly am not sure you even understand your own argument.

[Anonymous No.12695652]

>>12695631
>Humanity, living in balance with nature, without the benefit of technological innovation.
It's gonna happen sooner or later.
Do you want it to happen after a resource war, or do you want to go quietly? My solution: we go quietly, and retain vibrant biologically productive ecosystems as well as all of the enlightenment/history we gained and probably a good bit of the technology as well; your solution: we go there after calamity, lose all our enlightenment and revert to savagery.

[Anonymous No.12695657]

>>12695631
>Humanity, living in balance with nature, without the benefit of technological innovation.
also your solution: we go there ASAP
my solution: we take centuries to deplete our non-renewable resources

[Anonymous No.12695670]

>>12681426
So.... lower crop yields and possibly viral distribution via the dust?
Oh boy.
On a similar note
Remember reading about "smart dust"? What are the chances this will be dispersed along with the CaCO3 and used in tandem with fifth generation networks to track people and objects globally?
Only a thought.

[Anonymous No.12695673]

>>12682078
You could be right anon.

[Anonymous No.12695674]

>>12695652
I don't want it to happen at all. My goal, as is humanity's in general, is to progress technologically to a level of harmony with nature that both allows us to continue advancement while also maintaining nature. Technological progress is the easiest and best way to advance as a society. There is no eventuality where the world will willingly decide to live like cavemen again, so you can either continue to cry about it until you die or get on-board with innovation to improve modern techniques.

[Anonymous No.12696692]

>>12695588
>>12695566
>>12695544
>>12695144
>>12695088
based zones

[Anonymous No.12696731]

>>12695530
>inhabitable
okay retard

[Anonymous No.12696780]

>>12681426
Will someone please kill him already?

[Anonymous No.12696843]

>>12681426
why those sick fucks dont wait for planetary traveling before they do planetary engineering, what the fuck is gates problem?

[Anonymous No.12698457]

I thought they banned geo engineering
it's a based idea otherwise, so long as we're serious about it and stop after a few years

[Anonymous No.12698884]

this is starting to look like the Animatrix, but this time it's a war against breatharianist libtards.

Murdoch Murdoch will become reality