Idiots with masks

[Anonymous No.12653118]

I have a feeling that masks do more bad than good.

>People at work touch cancerous chemicals like Aziridine with gloves, then they pull up their mask because it slipped under their nose.

>Wear the mask under the nose all the time but when going in a room with 200ppm solvents in the air they pull it over the nose, instead of getting the A2 mask.

[Anonymous No.12653143]

yes, I, too, like to make up stupid stories about chemists/chemical engineers/process engineers and the like. These people knew, prior to the pandemic, how to use ppe.
They all suddenly forgot all about 'chemical hygiene' so that you could make this faggotized, idiotic, thread.
bravo, well done.

[Anonymous No.12653147]

>>12653118
Visited the pulmonologist last week because I've been having issues with fatigue and chest tightness. During the appointment he touched his mask at least a dozen times while we were talking. If a doctor who specializes in respiratory infections can't refrain from touching his mask constantly, how can it be expected that the general public will? Also while he did not say to not wear a mask, he did mention that everyone, including himself, are becoming fatigued from wearing them all day. He gave the example of using the stairs at the hospital, he could run up seven or eight flights no problem but now two or three will exhaust him. The message I took away wasn't "don't wear the mask" but rather "yeah, it sucks and has it's own set of negative consequences".

[Anonymous No.12653178]

>>12653118
i have stopped reminding them. it’s no use they don’t learn. adults are incapable of learning habits like being clean. if they didn’t learn order and cleanliness as child, they never ever will. don’t kid yourself by trying to change them.
>hurr me handle literal covid swab with gloves despite them being literally ineffective against infection
>because me safe with magic totem me can touch my personal items with gloves
i scream silently but if they get offed i’m not shedding a single tear. sucks about others they might infect tho

[Anonymous No.12653317]

>>12653118
>I have a feeling that user error does more harm than good
Fixed.

[Anonymous No.12653344]

>>12653118
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>YOU CANT DENY THE USEFULNESS OF MASKS GOY
>YOU KNOW WHAT? WEAR MORE MASKS WE NEED MORE MON.. WE MEAN WE CARE ABOUT SAVING YOU ALL!

[Anonymous No.12654207]

>>12653118

[Anonymous No.12654368]

User error?

[Anonymous No.12654438]

I'm going to wear masks for the rest of my life in public. FUCK FACIAL RECOGNITION. The coronavirus outbreak has been a blessing for the privacy movement. I'm 100% sure that wearing a mask will be socially acceptable even after the pandemic so I'm going to keep wearing one for the rest of my life in combination with a hoodie, sunglasses and baggy clothes so that neural-net AI can't generalize my motion.

[Anonymous No.12654462]

>>12654438
Don't forget to close your eyes too, put a cloak to trick the walking style recognition, destroy your phone and destroy all the cameras around you.

[Anonymous No.12654465]

>>12654368

[Anonymous No.12654467]

ya fuk masks. my tinder date insisted I wore one but i couldnt cum because i kept getting dizzy right as i was climaxing.

[Anonymous No.12654480]

Huh? I’ve never heard of problems from masks. Can anyone explain?

[Anonymous No.12654484]

>>12653118
That's why they now say you should wear more than 1 mask at the same time

[Anonymous No.12654514]

>>12654480
Americans are obese and suffer from heart failure; they can barely walk as is without stopping to breathe, any minimal obstruction to airflow(i.e. a mask) causes the American to collapse, suffocated

[Anonymous No.12654523]

>>12654514
Huh, I’ve never known that. If that’s the case... Is there any other solution for people then?

[Anonymous No.12654527]

>>12654438
Ironically you're making it easier to identify you because you're the only person who is going to resort to that particular set of id avoidance tactics.

[Anonymous No.12654539]

>>12654523
>Is there any other solution for people then?

[Anonymous No.12654543]

>>12654539
Technically, that’s effective. But people would consider you as a wierdo, I guess?

[Anonymous No.12654552]

>>12654539
Why do poltards create fake news just to make themselves angrier?
Normally propaganda is something you target at your enemies to deceive them, but poltards have mastered the art of shitposting yourself into seething at shit that you yourself made up

[Anonymous No.12654555]

>>12654543
A year ago people would have thought you were a weirdo if you wore a mask into a store in the US.
pic unrelated

[Anonymous No.12654557]

>>12654552
Do you also get upset at The Onion?

[Anonymous No.12654598]

>>12654557
The Onion is funny

[Anonymous No.12654615]

>>12653118
Masks don't work very well. The mandates are an obvious failure

[Anonymous No.12654735]

>>12653118
>I have a feeling
Then go to /pol/. Nobody cares about your feefees here.

[Anonymous No.12654759]

You need masks to avoid getting fined/refused service. If you can wear masks 1% of the time and manage that, they work as intended.

[Anonymous No.12655460]

>>12654615
Hurrr durr pay attention God dammit. How can you, after a full year of this shitshow, STILL not understand that masks are only a PART of the concept?
Masks: help a bit
Distancing: helps a bit
Masks plus distancing: helps a lot

Why is /sci/ out of all boards the most retarded? Are you all completely delusional and ignorant of the world out there?

[Anonymous No.12655465]

>>12653118
>cancerous chemicals
not contagious, retard

[Anonymous No.12655469]

>>12655460
/thread

[Anonymous No.12655478]

>>12655460
>masks: help a bit
>distancing: help a bit
>countries with total masking, distancing and lockdowns: can't do shit against the cough
Something does not add up.

[Anonymous No.12655487]

>>12655478
Yeah, your intellect.

[Anonymous No.12655505]

>>12655487
Wear the FUCKING triple mask!

[Anonymous No.12655511]

>>12655505
>memespeak
Thought so.

[Anonymous No.12655525]

>>12655487
>hurr
>>12655511
>durr
Sorry, what?

[Anonymous No.12655533]

>>12653118
>Wear the mask under the nose all the time but when going in a room with 200ppm solvents in the air they pull it over the nose, instead of getting the A2 mask
The based chemchads laugh in the face of danger anon.

[Anonymous No.12655540]

[Anonymous No.12655545]

>>12655540
pretty cringe tbqh

[Anonymous No.12655549]

>>12654438
>Doesnt know about gait recognition


It even gets you when you pretend you are limping . Time to get a wheelchair bruh

[Anonymous No.12655551]

>>12654514
So masks are literaly a filter.

[Anonymous No.12655557]

>>12655545
I only visit shops with no mask requirements anyway, but if If I'll see such a sign in my neighborhood, I'll make it my favorite store.

[Anonymous No.12655581]

[Anonymous No.12655827]

Hey /sci/ friends.

I want to buy a lot of n95 masks to take this seriously, I'm a recluse so until now I haven't been infected or infected anyone, but surprisingly neither my mother whom I live with and she deals with a lot of people.

I want to invest the minimum amount of money but get it good.
My plan was to use an n95 mask today, then put it in storage for 3 - 4 days, entirely isolated for the viruses to die so I can re-use it 2 maybe 3 times more before disposing of it entirely.

The alternative would be to also buy a type of UV light device used for killing viral particles so to speak, but I'm considering if that wouldn't damage the fabric too much. But in the case you tell me this is the best route, what parameters should I look for in such a device and how much time should the mask sit in it minimally speaking?

Thank you all.

[Anonymous No.12655837]

>>12655827
you can just let it sit/hang in a dry place for a few days, preferably near sun light. That should take care of the biggest risks. If you are in a risk group, I would definitely consult of of the many hotlines instead.

[Anonymous No.12655848]

>>12655837
W/e those hotlines might answer, surely already exists in the form of QnA, encyclopedic style articles and so on, do you know of any such materials?

[Anonymous No.12655895]

>>12655848
I’m not in a risk group, so not really. A quick google search:

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/sites/default/files/documents/Options-for-shortage-of-surgical-masks-and-respirators.pdf

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7218384/

[Anonymous No.12655898]

>>12655895
Thanks for your effort anon, have a nice day.

[Anonymous No.12655909]

>>12655898
gl hf with life

[Anonymous No.12656031]

>>12655540
>simultaneously communism and facism
not too surprised it's a retard who put this up

[Anonymous No.12656053]

>>12655549
>Gait recognition
That's why I talked about baggy clothing that distorts movement and doesn't really show what your stance/gait/movement is.
>>12654527
Yeah sure they might pin "That weird unrecognizable dude" on me 100% of the time with surveillance. But could they actually pin it to my real identity?
>>12654462
>Don't forget to close your eyes too
No need, sunglasses exist
>put a cloak to trick the walking style recognition
Baggy clothing works as far as I know

[Anonymous No.12656102]

>>12656053
>That's why I talked about baggy clothing that distorts movement and doesn't really show what your stance/gait/movement is.
But then they'll identify you as the retard wearing JNCO jeans.

[Anonymous No.12656206]

>>12654735
The entire response to the pandemic has been based on feefees.

[Anonymous No.12656210]

>>12656031
It should be obvious from the arrows that it is saying that communism and fascism both lead to the same authoritarian outcome we are seeing now.

[Anonymous No.12656214]

>>12655581

[Anonymous No.12656218]

>>12654555
>A year ago people would have thought you were a weirdo if you wore a mask into a store in the US.
Only in summer.

[Anonymous No.12656597]

>>12655478
>what is Vietnam
>what is Australia
>what is New Zealand
>what is fucking China

[Anonymous No.12656603]

>>12655557
>implying you ever leave your moms basement

[Anonymous No.12656623]

i keep hand sanitizer in my pocket and constantly ensure my hands are clean after touching anything at all. I go through a bottle a day.
I can touch my mask if i want to.

[Anonymous No.12656639]

>>12653118
Clean mask and wear for short periods only. Switch to a new mask the moment your mask gets damp and let your face dry.

The danger is inhaling bacteria like a retard.

[Anonymous No.12656650]

>>12655827
The mask fouls from oils, dirt and grime. The virus risk is minimal to anyone with basic hygiene.

[Anonymous No.12657421]

>>12653118
now you see, welcome to reality. for me its crazy see people in the city at night when its cold af and they are alone and are still wearing their makes. fucking sheep

[Anonymous No.12657441]

>>12657421
>. fucking sheep
Just like people who drive sober, huh?

[Anonymous No.12657485]

>>12655545
Cringe for being absolutely 100% correct and considerate to your customers?

[Anonymous No.12657528]

>>12654467
You're not into auto-erotic asphyxiation I take it.

[Anonymous No.12657531]

>>12655551
Yes, masks filter gases, but somehow they don't filter viral particles, at least that's what I've been told.

[Anonymous No.12658407]

>>12656603
That's literally what covidists do.

[Anonymous No.12658480]

>>12657441
You shouldn't drive because you shouldn't leave your house in the first place.

[Anonymous No.12658584]

>>12656597
What is Belgium?

[Anonymous No.12658622]

>>12656597
>what is Vietnam

[Anonymous No.12658650]

>>12655549
Sticking a rock in your shoe should do the trick

[Anonymous No.12658817]

>>12658622
Don't need to test as much if few people are dying.
Don't need as much pregnancy tests if more people wear a condom.

[Anonymous No.12658882]

>>12658622
why do the western nations say "tests performed" and the eastern ones say "people tested?"

[Anonymous No.12658927]

>>12658817
this is retarded. graph clearly says "deaths attributed to covid-19," so, if fewer people are tested, fewer people's deaths will be attributed to covid-19

[Anonymous No.12658933]

>>12658622
You'd like more negative tests I suppose? They're mainly testing the sick, and their positivity rate is still ridiculously low.

[Anonymous No.12658950]

>>12658927
>so, if fewer people are tested, fewer people's deaths will be attributed to covid-19
The USA had it's highest rate of deaths from COVID-19 when barely testing. More testing means testing more people who have a minor illness or no symptoms at all.

[Anonymous No.12658966]

>>12658817
Don't need to test as much if few people are dying because covid is a seasonal cold which hardly impacts the total mortality rate.

[Anonymous No.12658976]

>>12658950
>The USA had it's highest rate of deaths from COVID-19 when barely testing.
USA: 948 tests per 1000 people.
Vietnam: 14 tests per 1000 people
How does it feel to talk out of your ass so much?

[Anonymous No.12658986]

>>12658950
>>12658950
>More testing means testing more people who have a minor illness or no symptoms at all.
yes, i agree
the graph in >>12658817 is misleading since it's only showing deaths among people who had a positive covid test, which in countries with massive, widespread, asymptomatic testing will be artificially inflated

[Anonymous No.12658989]

>>12658933
Umm, yes. Please make at least USA or UK tier level of testing and then proclaim the covid victory.
Wait, actually don't. If you don't do tests, you have no covid and therefore can forget about pandemics.

[Anonymous No.12659004]

>>12658622
Asian wisdom.

[Anonymous No.12659032]

>>12656031
both brands of socialism tho

[Anonymous No.12659077]

>>12658976
The point flew over your head anon. I'll try to explain in more detail.

In the middle of April, the USA was experiencing over 2k COVID-19 deaths per day, and 20k new cases per day. At that time, the USA was only running about 100k tests per day. That's a 20% positive test rate, and a 2% death rate. Compare that to October, when the USA was running over 1 million tests per day, averaging 50k positive cases, but less than 1k deaths. That's a 0.1% death rate and a 5% positivity rate. So testing more didn't magically result in more deaths. What happened is early on, only the most ill were being tested. As testing expanded, more mild and asymptomatic cases were discovered.

Now look at Vietnam. They've run 1.4 million tests, with only 1800 cases. That's a 0.12% positivity rate. Considering they're testing only the most likely to have COVID-19 (travelers, medical workers, the ill), it's unlikely that far more extensive testing would uncover a rash of unaccounted for cases. Their positivity rate is already extremely low, 0.12%, compared to 20% for the USA early on. Far more testing would be unlikely to result in any substantial rise in COVID-19 deaths.

[Anonymous No.12659091]

>>12656031
>>simultaneously communism and facism
so, china?

[Anonymous No.12659128]

>>12659077
No, your point could have worked if Vietnam had a bit smaller testing rate than US. When it is absolutely negligible and 99+% of Vietnamese never ever seen the test (in total, I'm not even talking about last few weeks) you extrapolations over nothing fail completely. No covid testing - no deaths attributed to covid. No way to check it in a different way. No deaths attributed to covid means covid victory.
>Their positivity rate is already extremely low, 0.12
Congratulations, so extrapolated to the whole Vietnam that will give you ~100K of cases. That's assuming that you don't test same people over and over - then your "testing" will be not just nothing, but worse than nothing.

[Anonymous No.12659134]

>>12659077
>At that time, the USA was only running about 100k tests per day.
So even with such a "tiny" testing rate USA will overdo Vietnam in a few weeks. But of course then it was ramped up enormously.

[Anonymous No.12659163]

>Taiwan
>6 tests per 1000 people in total
>0.3 deaths per million
>Burundi
>7 tests per 1000 people in total
>0.2 deaths per million
Taiwan and Burundi are clearly epidemics-defeating masters. They probably should partition the world and show it how to stop viruses.

[Anonymous No.12659167]

>>12659128
But that's all bullshit, anon. They're testing the ill, and the positivity rate is still extremely low. It would be much higher if their was a hidden surge in cases and deaths that we're not seeing. But if you think their situation is a sham, look at Singapore and HK, which are both testing at a rate equivalent to the USA. They also have ultra low positivity rates and very few deaths.

>Congratulations, so extrapolated to the whole Vietnam that will give you ~100K of cases.
Nope, because the positivity rate would continue to fall with expanded testing to mild and asymptomatic cases. I already gave you the USA as an example, where increasing the testing rate 10x resulted in a mere 20% rise in cases.

[Anonymous No.12659180]

>>12659134
>So even with such a "tiny" testing rate USA will overdo Vietnam in a few weeks.
And 20% of the tests were coming back positive, which indicated there was massive community spread and much more testing was warranted. Vietnam has a 0.12% positivity rate, which indicates more testing isn't warranted.

[Anonymous No.12659233]

>>12659167
Yes, anon. When you proclaim that you are a strong country which defeated covid with drastic measures and then do not many times more tests than covid-sufferers, not the same amount and not even half that amount, but hundred times less, your claims of defeating the covid become pure bullshit.
> It would be much higher if their was a hidden surge in cases and deaths that we're not seeing.
You can just ignore it. After all you do no testing and covid is barely noticeable when you look at yearly deaths. It will not be noticed without government pushing even in the western countries, let alone communist Vietnam.
>I already gave you the USA as an example, where increasing the testing rate 10x resulted in a mere 20% rise in cases.
USA does shitload of tests, not a percent-of-population-in-total amount.

[Anonymous No.12659244]

>>12659180
>Vietnam has a 0.12% positivity rate, which indicates more testing isn't warranted.
Which indicates 100K cases if tests are done honestly and uniformly and much more if you constantly test the same people over and over.

[Anonymous No.12659272]

>>12659233
>and then do not many times more tests than covid-sufferers
Where the fuck are you from?

[Anonymous No.12659287]

>>12659272
No, where are (you) from? China or Vietnam?

[Anonymous No.12659289]

Reminder that worldwide there have been zero confirmed cases of covid from surface contact. The closest was a case in New Zealand where they couldn't figure out where it originated so they assumed it came in on imported goods.

[Anonymous No.12659307]

[Anonymous No.12659331]

>Czech Republic
>forced masks everywhere, even on the streets
>in top 5 by death rate
Remember, masks kill.

[Anonymous No.12659335]

>>12659244
>Which indicates 100K cases if tests are done honestly and uniformly
Why would you test uniformly? That makes no sense at all. The ill who needed testing get first priority. That's how it works in every country. It also means positivity rate will fall as testing is expanded to those with no symptoms

Example:

You have 100 people. 10 have symptoms. 5 of the symptomatic have COVID-19. There's also 5 asymptomatic people with COVID-19. If you test all 10 people with symptoms (as you should), you'll have 5 cases, and a 50% positivity rate. Then if you test all of the healthy people, you'll uncover another 5 cases, with a 5.5% positivity rate. But let's say you randomly test 10 of the healthy people. Maybe you'll uncover all 5 cases, maybe none of them. That's how it works when you expand testing from the ill to the healthy. It's held true in the USA, where increased testing only drove up cases moderately, and the positivity rate fell dramatically. Deaths actually went down with more testing. But you can claim VIetnam is cheating the system, whatever. So look at Singapore, look at HK. Singapore is testing at an even higher rate than the USA, HK just slightly less. They have a very low positivity rate and almost no deaths, and they've taken the same approach to the pandemic as Vietnam.

[Anonymous No.12659345]

>>12659287
Kek. It's so broken I can't even place it.

[Anonymous No.12659351]

>>12657421
keeps your face warm doe

[Anonymous No.12659355]

my country made it mandatory for children from 12 or 14 years (cant remember) to wear FFP2 masks.

Our fucking government is literally retarded, right? They can cause harm if used wrong. How the fuck is this happening

[Anonymous No.12659364]

>>12659335
>But let's say you randomly test 10 of the healthy people. Maybe you'll uncover all 5 cases, maybe none of them.
If you tests 10 people out of 1000, that's a very real possibility. If you test 900 people out of 1000, it is statistically improbable.

[Anonymous No.12659372]

>>12659355
You WILL wear the hazmat suits in the street.

By the way, I'm not even joking. If you swallow the masks and swallow the FFP2, why won't you take the pods?

[Anonymous No.12659394]

>>12659335
>Why would you test uniformly?
Ok, so there are people in Vietnam who were tested many times? Good for them, but that will drop the amount of people tested in total from percent to the small fractions of percent.
> That makes no sense at all. The ill who needed testing get first priority.
When you do literally 100 times fewer tests than many large countries, you can't talk about "priority" anymore. It's not that you can't easily push it up tens of times.

[Anonymous No.12659404]

[Anonymous No.12659496]

>>12659364
>If you tests 10 people out of 1000, that's a very real possibility. If you test 900 people out of 1000, it is statistically improbable.
And none of them are likely to die, so ultimately, their death total won't change at all. More testing in the USA meant more cases, but not an equal increase in deaths since the very ill were already being tested.

[Anonymous No.12659536]

>>12659496
>so ultimately, their death total won't change at all.
Covid hardly increases death rate anyway. For example in Sweden 2020 was not the worst year in a century or even decade. In fact if you will compare it to 2010's it will be like 3-4th worst. Literally a non-issue.
Now Sweden is pretty old, with 20% of people over 65. USA has 16% and Vietnam 8%. You don't even need to hide deaths in this case, you will get a pretty average year even with covid running totally free.

[Anonymous No.12659546]

>>12659004
must be the pee pee in their coke

[Anonymous No.12659608]

>>12655460
Show me any proof masks work. "Social distancing", as in isolation is of course going to reduce the spread of a virus, but at what price? Economic breakdown, suicide rates amping up, and the futures of a lot of people, namely children permanently fucked up. All for a virus that is not going away until 2022 anyways. Should have just let it ride and this would be over before 2023 but now we have to wait until 2024.

[Anonymous No.12659634]

>>12655460
It didn't work, sorry

[Anonymous No.12659639]

>>12653118

As most people do not do extensive work w/ aziridine or solvents this is probably not a significant problem in the grand scheme of things.

[Anonymous No.12659801]

>>12659536
>Covid hardly increases death rate anyway.
Except in the USA where it increased it by 15%.

[Anonymous No.12661187]

>>12656053
>Yeah sure they might pin "That weird unrecognizable dude" on me 100% of the time with surveillance. But could they actually pin it to my real identity?
Sure, as long as at least one of those surveilled instances can be tied to you, for instance a credit card transaction or location data from your phone

[Anonymous No.12661205]

>>12653178
>>hurr me handle literal covid swab with gloves despite them being literally ineffective against infection
gloves help against cross-contamination
and in fact if you are one of those people who can not avoid touching your face, they act as a reminder not to.

[Anonymous No.12661215]

>>12653143
Chemists know how to use PPE but lay people definitely don't
Every time I go to a restaurant everyone's sticking their masks on the table. No one would eat food off that but suddenly breathing through it is just fine.
Last year some of these people died of "lung infections" too.

[Anonymous No.12661220]

>>12656597
China is still locking cities down.

[Anonymous No.12661225]

[Anonymous No.12661298]

>>12661225
haha mask meme goes brrrrr
fuck boomer karen though fuck that annoying anti vax idiots.

[Anonymous No.12661302]

>>12661215
Lay people aren't working with aziridine.

[Anonymous No.12662907]

>>12659077
now the question is, How many cycles they runn with the pcr machine.

here in Germany they run the sample 100 times,

someone gets infected, but the immune system battles the virus very quickly in an early stage. the person feels sick , gets tested and has a positive result.
in reality there is not much virus in that person and he is not really contagious.

>T lived with someone with a positive test result and symptoms for 2 weeks in the same house, no family member got infected. inb4 n=1

[Anonymous No.12662918]

>>12661225
Altmaiers Bimbolippen sind zu dick für die Maske

[Anonymous No.12662924]

>>12661225
I'm neutral good but wish I could be chaotic good