/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.12641743]

Is science and math just empiricism?

[Anonymous No.12641756]

math is like art, and logical laws are canon

[Anonymous No.12641760]

>>12641743
Duh, math and science are just man-made concepts created through our limited understanding of the universe.

[Anonymous No.12641860]

>>12641743
pic related is a lie

[Anonymous No.12641862]

>>12641743
I guess empiricism got canceled due to racism. Go to any city and you’ll see niggers acting like animals

[Anonymous No.12642032]

>>12641743
>Is science and math
no science and maths are rationalisms, so the opposite of empiricism

[Anonymous No.12642046]

>>12642032
And those rationalisms led to the necessity of empiricism for science to be valid.

[Anonymous No.12642537]

>>12641743
It’s empiricism + rationality + math + imagination

[Anonymous No.12642849]

>>12641743
No

[Anonymous No.12644785]

>>12641743
For math, the axioms we select and the theorems we choose to explore may be empirically motivated, but the fact that you can compose those axioms to get different theorems has nothing to do with the world around us.

[Anonymous No.12644823]

>>12641743
No, like not even a little.

[Anonymous No.12645242]

>>12641743
Yes

[Anonymous No.12645406]

>>12641756
Math is not reducible to logic.

[Anonymous No.12645409]

>>12645406
It's reducable to logic and axioms.

[Anonymous No.12646924]

>>12641743
no. that is called philosophy and only retarded fucks who are good for nothing are doing that, they enjoy talking shit and blaming others for their miserable sad life. science on the other hand tries it's best to remove all human elements and factors from the equation through the scientific methods to get the purest of results. that is why scientists of the world carried humanity to the fucking moon in a literal sense while philosopher niggas are just complaining about the world and arguing if the milk should go first or the cereal.

[Anonymous No.12646933]

>>12645409
And logic itself is just axioms.

[Anonymous No.12646948]

>>12641743
It would be impossible to realize you exist with out having obtained knowledge from your senses to manipulate mentally to form ideas and methods to orientate ideas to other ideas

Things like before and after require sensing the effect of time first before they can be realized. Causation must be learned, and so thinking is contingent on experience.

[Anonymous No.12646980]

>>12641743
How can I trust it is not a demon giving me my sensory information? I can trust my thoughts because God wouldn't be that cruel. He has given us free will and knowledge of good and evil, but everything else is up for debate.

[Anonymous No.12646981]

>>12641743
analysis is perhaps the most important element of math and science. in a vacuum math is pure analysis, aka pure a priori reasoning, but you have to also acknowledge that math was also derived from observations. science is a combination of lots of analysis with both more empiricism and rationalism. without rationalism science would never make any conclusions and rational thinking is necessary to even determine what to empirically test and to come up with rational models for what was empirically tested.

tldr science (and math depending on if you are taking math as more than just itself in a vacuum) is all of them.

[Anonymous No.12647182]

>>12641743
Not everything is countable. Like information.

[Anonymous No.12648224]

>>12646981>>12642046

empiricists reject rationalism. Only rationalists make up some narrative where empiricism can be merged with rationalism.

[Anonymous No.12648234]

>>12646980
>God wouldn't be that cruel
You sure about that?

[Autolycus No.12648260]

>>12646924
>science conceived as resting on mere sense-perception, with no other sources of observation, is bankrupt, so far as concerns its claims to self-sufficiency.
>>12648224
Why not endeavor to take the whole evidence into account?

>Sense-perception, for all its practical importance, is very superficial in its disclosure of the nature of things. … My quarrel with [Hume] concerns [his] exclusive stress upon sense-perception for the provision of data respecting Nature. Sense-perception does not provide the data in terms of which we interpret it.

>My point is, that no course of study can claim any position of ideal completeness. Nor are the omitted factors of subordinate importance. The insistence in the Platonic culture on disinterested intellectual appreciation is a psychological error. Action and our implication in the transition of events amid the inevitable bond of cause to effect are fundamental. An education which strives to divorce intellectual or aesthetic life from these fundamental facts carries with it the decadence of civilisation.

>The antithesis between a technical and a liberal education is fallacious. There can be no technical education which is not liberal, and no liberal education which is not technical: that is, no education which does not import both technique and intellectual vision. (Whitehead)