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How does a virus from the 80s have no vaccine? Are scientist dumb and they found a vaccine for covid.

>> No.12635643

As long as you don't fuck gays and don't inject drugs you are almost 100% safe, so little need for vaccine.

>> No.12635652

>>12635633
read the wiki on HIV. that virus is fucking crazy

>> No.12635752

>>12635633
With mRNA vaccines they might be able to create an HIV vaccine.

>> No.12635834

>>12635752
Possibly, but I don't see why a new vector will help. The problem with producing an HIV vaccine isn't that you can't create an immune response or stimulate the production of antibodies, it's that the antibodies that you do create don't protect from the virus.

>> No.12635866

>>12635633
Another lab-made bioweapon, that's why.
Viruses just don't appear out of the blue in nature.

>> No.12636080

>>12635633
Because the AlphabetsAgencies said so

>> No.12636099

>>12635866
>Another lab-made bioweapon, that's why.
I would believe that about covid 19, since it appeared a couple years after crispr came out, in a city with a virology lab, in a country with a bioweapons research program
But hvi? Scientists were still figuring out how to read dna back then
>Viruses just don't appear out of the blue in nature.
Are you a creationist?

>> No.12636371

>>12635866
>Viruses just don't appear out of the blue in nature.
Yes, they kinda do. They mutate and jump from a species to a new one, and that makes them look as if they came out of nowhere.

>> No.12636381

>>12635633
There no instance of a patient being infected with HIV then fighting it on their own like with other viruses. Even if a very small minority of patients fight it off, researchers can gather samples from patients to analyze what exactly the body is doing to fight this thing off. That's why a cure for HIV is so elusive while we have effective treatments that can fully rid patients of infection for HBV and HCV.

>> No.12636533

>>12636381
There are a few fringe cases like that, but the only one I've heard of where they tried to collect a sample the patient wouldn't consent to it because they weren't going to pay him or give him any credit.

>> No.12636565

>>12635643
You're a lot less likely to catch HIV from sharing dirty needles than having gay sex, anon. Blood banks would have had to throw out a lot fewer batches if they opened their doors to heroin addicts than gay men.

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>>12635633
>How does a virus from the 80s have no vaccine?

The virus literally integrates into your chromosomes, into the very DNA. There's no cure for that shit. Worse yet, it directly attacks this way the very mechanisms the body uses to defend against itself. There's no cure for something like that. It's crazy.

>> No.12636608

Is it possible for a 'child' virus of SARS-CoV-2 and HIV having the terrifying characteristics of each other to exist? Ignore for a moment the fact that both viruses are from different families. Would it spell the end of us? How would another pandemic of this 'child' virus play out?

>> No.12636611

>>12636608
No

>> No.12636627

>>12636566
>virus literally changes your dna
>we can now edit dna
isnt that the cure?

>> No.12636635

>>12635633
No need for a cure. just don't be gay, black, or a russian junkie.

>> No.12636649

>>12635633
>they found a vaccine for covid.
covid is a variant of the flu virus, so we got lucky in that we already had decades perfecting flu viruses.

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12636652

>How does a virus from the 80s have no vaccine?

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12636661

>>12635633
https://youtu.be/u6bYk3OmAro?t=3291
Highly recommended watch

>> No.12637140

>>12636649
>covid is a variant of the flu virus
No it isn't

>> No.12637155

>>12635633
we dont want to help pidors

>> No.12637162

>>12635633
>How does a virus from the 80s have no vaccine?
selling HIV meds makes a lot of money, much more than selling a cure ever could

>> No.12637834

>>12636627
No. Building specific proteins that serve a specific purpose without side effects is an NP-hard computational problem. It's akin to protein folding.

>> No.12637848

>>12636566
Every virus does that and people overcome them all the time.

>> No.12637862

>>12636566
>>12635752
>>12635866
>>12636080
>>12636381
>>12636627
>>12636649
>>12636661
Why are /sci/posters so scientifically illiterate?

>> No.12637935

>>12636099
Lab-made does not mean genetically edited, retard.
Look up gain of function. Muhrica's been doing it for decades. All you need is some radioacve source and lots of mice.

>> No.12638043

Why get rid of it?

>> No.12638317

>>12635633
>>12635633
Because it only exists in minecraft. Our like people schooled in the esoteric secrets of virology would say in silico.

>> No.12639597

>>12637935
But hiv isnt like anything before, it isnt just a enhanced version of an older virus

>> No.12639598

>>12637862
For the LULZ

>> No.12639921

>>12637862
Do Americans really eat this?

>> No.12639987

>>12635633
HIV is a meme disease. The drugs to treat it create the symptoms that define it.

>> No.12639996

>>12635633
Because it attacks the immune system itself.
Moderna has something developed against HIV though:
https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/moderna-provides-business-update-and-announces-three-new
>The development programs announced today are mRNA vaccine candidates against seasonal flu, HIV and the Nipah virus.

>> No.12641991

>>12639996
But how does it work? I thought mRNA simply triggers the immune system, like all other vaccines. That wouldn't work, right?