Engineering is a meme now

[Anonymous No.12611462]

Don't do engineering, at least not aerospace engineering. I busted my ass in a very good public ivy uni, graduated magna cum laude, got a computational science certificate on the side, and left with research and internship experience. With all that, I still couldn't get an engineering job when I graduated, and I had to take up a somewhat unrelated job that I absolutely hate. Now, I'm trying to once again find engineering jobs but my applications simply keep on getting rejected. I might KMS if I'm rejected from grad school as well, jesus christ. What was the goddamn point of getting an engineering degree? All I do now is write patents, it sucks so much and I use 0% of my engineering knowledge. Is anyone else in a similar situation?

[Anonymous No.12611466]

>>12611462
Should have gone chemical. Not all engineering degrees are created equal

[Anonymous No.12611477]

>>12611462
Where are you living?

[Anonymous No.12611492]

>>12611466
I wish I did CS actually, codemonkeys are living the dream...

>>12611477
Texas

[Anonymous No.12611500]

>>12611466
>t. future unemployed engineer
Truth is kiddo, all the engineering jobs moved to Asia along with offshoring. Trying to switch to software before totally ruin your life.

t. MechE who later became a deep learning engineer

[Anonymous No.12611501]

>>12611462
Welcome to the real world. STEM is dead. It's all shit now. We're all just doing useless busywork and paperwork. Not using our knowledge or potential at all.
Sometimes I think they're purposefully putting educated people like us into these roles to mold us into obsequious drones like the rest of society.

[Anonymous No.12611509]

>tfw computer engineer and guaranteed work in one of many highly relevant fields

[Anonymous No.12611513]

>>12611492
>I wish I did CS actually, codemonkeys are living the dream..
In the overcrowded shitholes with the highest costs of living in North America? Fuck that!

[Anonymous No.12611520]

>>12611513
I make $140k in Wisconsin. :^)

[Anonymous No.12611522]

>>12611500
The fuck you talking about? Been working in ChemE for ages. Pay is great and it is currently understaffed

[Anonymous No.12611529]

Engineering is about being in the ol' boy network.

[Anonymous No.12611531]

>>12611520
brady is going to torch the packers faggot

[Anonymous No.12611537]

>>12611492
Aerospace is a niche thing. You'll need to move to somewhere where there are more manufacturers. West coast states like Washington or California. However, you could also join the airforce and get way more career prospects...

[Anonymous No.12611549]

>>12611500
>t. MechE who later became a deep learning engineer

How did you do that? It seems impossible to break into tech without a CS degree nowadays, and it's just going to get harder with fresh graduates coming out year after year, fuuuck.

>>12611513
A remote tech job is basically one of the best jobs you can in 2021.

>>12611537
I realized too late that I don't want to work for the military industrial complex. I specialized in robotics but nobody wants to touch me because I don't have a master's. Shit blows so much.

[Anonymous No.12611551]

>>12611520
Bruh, you can find jobs that pay twice that much in sad little Midwestern states as just a heavy equipment operator. No degree needed.

[Anonymous No.12611555]

>>12611462
>Now, I'm trying to once again find engineering jobs but my applications simply keep on getting rejected
You just don't know how to get a job. Spamming applications everywhere isn't going to do you any good.

[Anonymous No.12611567]

>>12611555
My coworkers are all lawyers and my friends are in the same boat; my network is useless.

[Anonymous No.12611569]

>>12611549
>Robotics
Oh, dear god. You fell for the plebbit memes! Poor chump

>I realized too late that I don't want to work for the military industrial comp.
I won't spend all night on here arguing why you should work for it but there aint much else you can do with such a niche degree. Remember, the air force will gladly take you if you get really desperate. Good luck!

[Anonymous No.12611581]

>>12611551
Show me some, fgt.

[Anonymous No.12611603]

>>12611569
how is robotics a reddit meme

I found my work and research very interesting and wouldn't mind doing robotics for money. If only someone would let me...

[Anonymous No.12611612]

>>12611603
>how is robotics a reddit meme
>I found my schooling interesting but I can't find a job in that field
You have answered your own question

[Anonymous No.12611614]

>>12611549
>aerospace
>won’t work for military-industrial contractors
Yeah, you’re a dip shit. What did you think you’d be building, little models of the Enterprise?

[Anonymous No.12611623]

>>12611549
as long as you have some software projects under your belt you can get a software job no matter what degree you have. don't know how to become "deep learning engineer" specifically though, sounds like that would require more education unless it means just throwing training sets at a black box that smarter people built.

[Anonymous No.12611630]

>>12611603
That's funny, I'm regretting not pursuing robotics in my undergrad and master's. I currently do computational mechanics.
It's weird that you say you can't find a job in robotics. That's a super hot field right now isn't it? Alternatively, 2 years for a master's isn't that long a time.

[Anonymous No.12611637]

>>12611614
There are tons of civilian applications for aero. Like commercial aviation and even the auto industry. Some people actually live by principles you know.

[Anonymous No.12611644]

>>12611637
You don't have to work for the military your whole life you know. Maybe a few years so you can brush up your resume

[Anonymous No.12611648]

>>12611637
>Some people actually live by principles you know.
Good luck paying your Ivy league student debt with principles

[Anonymous No.12611653]

>>12611644
>>12611648
I have no student debt, I'm not OP. It's times like this when you truly appreciate being a Euro. You can pick what you'd like to study and come out the end with exactly zero debt.

[Anonymous No.12611657]

>>12611567
You need a foot in the door somewhere. Try to get a job at an engineering firm maybe not even doing engineering at first but just build contacts to break into the industry. Also, you probably should have made all your contacts when you were at the internship.

[Anonymous No.12611669]

>>12611612
There are definitely robotics jobs, it's not like I studied gender studies you retard.

>>12611614
I was 18 and thought planes and space was cool. I also wasn't too bothered by the MIC until I was a junior and it was too late by then to switch majors.

>>12611630
>a super hot field

I thought so as well, but no luck so far. Feels impossible to break into unless you're an undergrad robotics whiz or have a masters/phd. Really hope that I get into a master's and it pays off dividends.

>>12611653
I have 0 debt too because my parents are somewhat richfags and I also had some scholarships.

>>12611644
>>12611657
Yeah you all are right, I actually have been applying to MIC type companies but no luck. My gf said the same thing - it'll suck to sell my soul out but Lockheed/Boeing/Raetheon/etc. are the only companies that give ASEs that initial job experience

[Anonymous No.12611674]

>>12611669
>There are definitely robotics jobs, it's not like I studied gender studies you retard.
Then go find one and take your gripes with you

[Anonymous No.12611679]

>>12611551
bruh no one is making $300k driving a tractor

[Anonymous No.12611687]

>>12611669
>My gf said the same thing - it'll suck to sell my soul out but Lockheed/Boeing/Raetheon/etc. are the only companies that give ASEs that initial job experience
Aerospace is so specialized I'm surprised you didn't already know that.

[Anonymous No.12611692]

>>12611537
How competitive is a company like spacex for fresh aerospace graduates?

[Anonymous No.12611699]

>>12611692
>A Musk company
Off the top of my head, I'd say his plebbit fanboys are willing to PAY HIM to let them work at spacex

[Anonymous No.12611708]

>>12611692
You have to know your shit to get a SpaceX job, they're extremely competitive. But, why would you want one? 0 work/life balance, relatively shit pay, and you're wageslaving for a complete scumbag. I'd only get it if you want it on your resume and you plan on GTFO soon but working for a Musk company is not a good long term idea if you value your own life.

[Anonymous No.12611718]

>>12611692
Musk himself has said he doesn't think that just because you have a degree it means your worthy of being hired. That said I don't know the HR practices of spaceX.

[Anonymous No.12611738]

>>12611708
He worked 80+ hours a week to build his companies you know. But considering how competitive it is I would have more chances of success by implementing that zero work life balance into running a startup in a novel field

>>12611699
Kek

[Anonymous No.12611842]

>>12611520
How's Epic?

[Anonymous No.12611858]

>>12611842
Not him but I interviewed at Epic. That campus is the most bugman-infested place I ever seen. Software devs work with an outdated language (MUMPS?). I guess if you're making 140k as a dev you're living it it up, but every other Epic job seems like it would suck major cock.

[Anonymous No.12612016]

I work in aero as an engineer. It's not that competitive. DoD contractors are looking for good engineers.

[Anonymous No.12612032]

>>12611501
Unclamped

[Anonymous No.12612044]

>>12612016
are you white?

[Anonymous No.12612052]

>>12611513
My sister works on software and dies it fr home. The few times she dies have to go in for work it's basically a 45+ minute drive literally almost straight into the city. Remote work is nice and there's a lot of cities with good/great pay and actually affordable housing

[Anonymous No.12612061]

>>12611462
Lol i just graduated from aerospace with a 3.0 gpa and extensive research experience + first author papers published and immediately got a 90k offer as a research engineer

[Anonymous No.12612085]

>>12611708
My friend got one as a mech e and he was by no means the smartest student. He was however in many clubs, had tons of internship experience, and a good dude. Hard working and got lucky too.

[Anonymous No.12612125]

Are you like unwilling to relocate or not have a linkedin? I had engineer recruiters hounding me my entire senior year. And I didn't have a 4.0 or a degree from a top tier school.

[Anonymous No.12612219]

>Graduated as a Cum lauderer
There's your problem.

[Anonymous No.12612226]

Is engineering really just about churning out number in equations and whatnot? You get graded on how fast you "solve" "problems"(which the solution is available online) but not in digesting the material. What's the point of chewing the material if the end goal is writing the exact numbers that represents the solution.
I feel lost /sci/ help me, what makes engineering worth it? What makes you go up in the morning and read a 1500 page book in the morning? My peers are just as retarded as me. What should i do?
>t. ECE major

[Anonymous No.12612292]

You can't think in terms of "jobs" anymore if you don't want to be a middle income wage slave jumping from ship to ship until you are aged out. Its 2021, you unironically have to hustle. I graduated with a masters in architecture, worked for an architect long enough to get my license and then left. I saw the other slaves, my future path if I stayed a no risk pussy simping for the next paycheck and the opinions of clients. Work shit hours for a decade, doing nothing interesting, and topping off at maybe 120k a year at the end of my career. And this is if I was lucky enough to even find a decent job
I left and partnered with a contractor. Design-Build-Sell, Design-build-sell. Design-build-sell. Did this enough where I have a very large cushion and a few properties I own myself. Cut down work by 50% and am basically semi retired. Im in my early thirties. If I continued on your path ill be working 60 hours a week for 70k a year still. Pic related is my life right now. I'm really just chilling.
You have to seriously hustle. The Empire is declining, you have to think like an autonomous warlord, not a bureaucrat

[Anonymous No.12612311]

>>12612226
Congrats on realizing all STEM outside of physics and math is subhuman robot shit. Literally does not require human beings. If you work is based around objective physical constraints and measurements you are a donkey. Welcome to the ultimate redpill, the humanities welcomes you. If your concern involves money, welcome to entrepreneurship

[Anonymous No.12612332]

>>12612311
>Congrats on realizing all STEM outside of physics and math is subhuman robot shit.
No, please tell me that this conclusion is wrong.
> If you work is based around objective physical constraints and measurements you are a donkey.
What do you mean by objective physical constraints, like a tradesman of some sort?

And if that's the case, what do you think is to be done? Leave STEM and academia all together? Which is not a very discreet solution tbqh.

[Anonymous No.12612474]

>>12611669
Good to see that there are people with morals and principles here. Fuck the military industrial complex. It wouldn't exist without big brain engineers supporting it and building all their cool childhood fantasy death machines for them

[Anonymous No.12612478]

>>12611466
haha based

[Anonymous No.12612488]

>>12612226
>>12612311
Computer nerds wont make it

>>12612292
Unclamped

[Anonymous No.12612494]

>>12612488
Also this >>12611501

[Anonymous No.12612512]

>>12611462
learn to adapt, we're not in 1900s where we needed to craft faster planes. Now people want stupid apps like tik-tok

[Anonymous No.12612592]

Guys, is being a math PhD really a meme or do you really start with 300k? Asking for a friend haha

[Anonymous No.12612662]

>>12612592
Even if the 300k thing was true the question is whether you are willing to be a virgin until you are thirty when you finally pick up a 6/10 amateur gold digger quickly approaching the wall. I can only imagine the type of person who would get a math Phd, 8 years of indulging in it will only accelerate the autism

[Anonymous No.12612677]

>>12612662
It’s not all about pussy, but math is despite media bullshit highly competitive. Should I go for something easier like engineering?

[Anonymous No.12612722]

Simple as

[Anonymous No.12612747]

I will graduate in 3 semesters with a bachelor's in EE.
Starting to feel like I'm absolutely fucked.
Mathematically speaking the highest possible GPA I can attain is a 3.2.
That would require all As in my remaining classes so it's very unlikely.
Probably I will graduate with a 2.9 or 3.0.
Have zero internship, research, or project experience.
All of people who assured me they could get me a job fell through. It turns out they were full of shit and didn't even really try when I actually called on them to get me in the door.
Also I am 33 years old with $50K in student debt.
Might just buy a gun and blow my brains out after I graduate.

[Anonymous No.12612760]

>>12611738
he played diablo 2 for 80 hours a day maybe

[Anonymous No.12612767]

>>12612722
why does it say the same year but the stats are different? How could it change so much in the same year?

[Anonymous No.12612774]

>>12611842
Not Epic.

[Anonymous No.12612780]

>>12612722
>aero engineer
>median pay
>$116k

[Anonymous No.12612872]

>>12611462
>I couldn't get an engineering job
>therefore, nobody can
Have you considered that your applications or your demeanor suck perhaps? Haven't you created a network in university already? Biggest mistake, the latter.

[Anonymous No.12612876]

>>12612767
Pretty sure you're not reading this right.

[Anonymous No.12612885]

>>12612767
Different jobs you turd.

[Anonymous No.12614142]

>>12612872
>my mommy says I'm super duper special so I'm guaranteed to get a job when I graduate
okay kiddo lmfao

[Anonymous No.12614204]

>>12612780
i wonder who BLS counts as an aerospace engineer in their statistics. certainly its not all the interns making minimum wage or all the underemployed graduates working unrelated work

[Anonymous No.12614321]

>>12614142
I already have a job. Sorry bro, networking is everything these days. If you're a retard, nobody will hire you.

[Anonymous No.12614359]

>>12612044
Yes. That really doesn't matter. They don't require you state your race when you apply so your not getting affirmative action points either way to get the interview. Interview well and get it out of your head that your not getting it for factors you can't control.

[Anonymous No.12614360]

>>12611462

Nobody will let you engineer anything with just a college paper. You have to work your way up.

[El Arcón No.12614456]

Civilization is a meme now.

[Anonymous No.12614509]

>>12611513
You can work anywhere if you're a freelancer. It doesn't matter if you're in LA Cape Town or Kamchatka as long as you've got a good internet connection

[Anonymous No.12614534]

>>12612747
What were you doing before you started studying?

[Anonymous No.12614619]

>junior in aeronautical engineering
>no internships
>a bit of project experience
>third worlder international student
I FUCKED UP, my only saving grace is that my current GPA is 3.8 so even if I slack off over the next 3 semesters it should still be OKAY but Im pretty sure employers dont give a rats ass about GPA once its above a certain point
Should I start doing undergrad research and hope to make it in academia?

[Anonymous No.12614646]

>>12614619
Yeah you seem ripe to go to grad school
if you can't see yourself developing your social skills outside of academics well enough before you graduate, then keep doing more school

[Anonymous No.12614662]

>>12612747
>33
>50k debt
what compelled you to go back to school?

[Anonymous No.12614894]

>>12614619
which country are you from

[Anonymous No.12614978]

>Got an engineering degree and landed a pretty good job
>Plant closed, had to get a new job, new job laid me off immediately because of covid
>Can't find another good job, the only people calling me are for low tier dead end shit
>Grad schools seem really interested in me, I've already been accepted to my likely first choice and I think I have a good shot at the other schools I applied to
Should I do it? I think I could make it through grad school, I'm just scared I'm going to waste my fucking life for 5 years and then things won't be any better at the end of it.

[Anonymous No.12615024]

>>12611462
Just write that you are trans black trans woman 1/32 lakitu warrior

[Anonymous No.12615027]

>>12614646
I figured it would end up like this. Luckily I have no aversion to academia, so while it's not my ideal I don't think I'd hate it (at least for now).
>>12614894
The Bahamas, why?

[Anonymous No.12615451]

>>12611462
There never was a shortage of engineers. It was all a scheme by big corporations to drive wages down.

[Anonymous No.12615523]

>in my sophomore year for Nuclear Engineering, planning on going for a masters
BUT
>90% of gov/commercial jobs is just regulatory paper-pushing
>90% of academia work is irradiating samples all day

Bros I just want to study and make nuclear thermal rockets.

[Anonymous No.12615557]

>>12612747
holy fucking shit that's bad, unironically go innawoods or teach english in japan

[Anonymous No.12615576]

>>12611462
>i'm a loser therefore engineering is a meme

[Anonymous No.12615756]

>>12611462
Should've studied MechE with an Aero minor or whatever. Pure Aero engineering grads always get the short end of the stick.
>>12611466
No. See pic.
>>12611692
Don't bother. SpaceX is a white collar sweatshop and you'll be wishing you took that job at NASA instead.
>>12612722
Aerospace Engineering salaries are on average more like 90k so this is misleading.

At the end of the day OP, STEM is definitely a meme, and it's going out of style. Schools and companies were pushing for STEM learning (and still do). Most of this was done to drive wages down and increase competition. Now you see the direct effect of that. There's a lot of cool shit you can do in engineering but various institutions are shoving it down people's throats and making the prospects grimmer. Or, maybe you're a shitty interviewer? Who knows?

[Anonymous No.12615800]

>>12611462
Always had been you fucking faggot.

[Anonymous No.12616019]

>>12615451
>>12615557
unclamped

[Anonymous No.12616081]

>>12614978
don't be too afraid of these guys saying a phd is a waste. if you like your subject, then go for it. So few people get to work on something they actually care about.

I finished my phd two years ago and I'm finishing a post doc now. I'm moving Into industry and getting plenty of job interviews and my field (theoretical quantum physics) hasn't necessarily had a good rep for jobs.

[Anonymous No.12616151]

>>12611466
>>12611500
>>12611520
>>12611529
>>12611537
>>12611555
>>12611644
>>12611648
>>12611657
>>12612061
>>12612085
>>12612125
>>12612512
>>12615576
>>12612872
>>12614321
>>12614359
>>12614360
Don't listen to these fags. Talking about "networking" and "working your way up" and "interview prep", "relocate", "switch major", "switch field".
It's all a lie. The jobs are dead and gone. It's your life, so study what you want, not what you think will get you a job. The only jobs once the happening begins are grave digger and grave occupier.
>>12611501
>>12612292
>>12612311
>>12615451
>>12615800
Listen to these fine anons, they are based

[Anonymous No.12616194]

>>12612292
>Design-Build-Sell
retard here, what even does that mean?

[Anonymous No.12616201]

>>12611462
Thank fuck I switched to CS after my freshmen year of uni. My cousin in law graduated with honors in Mechanical Engineering from the university I got rejected from and he works at a fucking bank and is currently getting his MBA. I heard that only 1/10 engineering graduates actually become engineers.

[Anonymous No.12616203]

>>12616194
Design building
Build building
Sell building

[Anonymous No.12616208]

>>12616203
yeah but what does that mean exactly and what do you do to start doing that?

[Anonymous No.12616307]

>>12616208
You have to start a company or have networking/likeability to get into a company or the credentials to be hired. It says he partnered with a contractor. The contractor probably wouldn't have hired him if he wasn't an architect, but it's different from the master's degree architecture he would have been doing, which would be more academic and institutional type buildings. He's talking about a much more rapid, industrial business type process that any construction company would be doing, I assume

[Anonymous No.12616402]

>>12611520
What do you specialize in? I'm a CS student whose trying to teach myself Web Development as a JavaScript basis.

[Anonymous No.12616579]

>3.7 GPA Electrical Engineer
>Graduate this year with Bachelor
>Graduate next year with Masters
>Going to also pursue robotics certificate
>Currently have internship in Mil/Air/Space company
I feel like I’m gonna make it.

[Anonymous No.12616592]

>>12611462
Do you have a legal engineering certification?
https://www.nspe.org/resources/licensure/what-pe

[Anonymous No.12616601]

>>12611492
>codemonkeys are living the dream
ah yes
>break room reeks of curry from pajeets and fish soup from bongistanis
>not even dignified enough to have a cubicle anymore, have to share my desk with a "pair programming buddy" and two other randoms
>boss asks the impossible, blames you when the system inevitably fails
>also get blamed whenever your "buddy" fucks up, even though he's the one not doing his job
>want to fix the broken program? too bad. your boss won't let you, because that will make the team "lose velocity"
>performance review comes around --- you're not enough of a "team player"
>pay docked, even though none of this was within your control
i want to fucking hang myself

[Anonymous No.12616628]

>>12616592
>just become a professional scapegoat bro
haha no

[Anonymous No.12616717]

>>12611551
At times I have considered becoming a stevedore

[Anonymous No.12616743]

Your fault. Should have studied something like economics and made big bucks in IBD on Wall Street. Also look into >>12601689

[Anonymous No.12617052]

Bro its not true, here in Italy there are a lot of open slots for AE in many companies, ranging from thr military to private, a guy I know delayed his master because he received a nice job offer. It's just you americans eho have it hard.
t. Aerospace student

[Anonymous No.12617081]

>>12615523
Sorry bro, western society is busy committing suicide in case you couldn't tell

[Anonymous No.12617279]

ASE prospects in francosphere?

[Anonymous No.12617394]

>>12611501
This. It sucks suffering for wanting more knowledge. At the end of the day, the government wants smooth brains to shut up and do their economy-fueling jobs. That's why the code monkeys were getting paid so much. Even that's becoming so popular that the minimum pay is dropping...

Born to think, forced to labor.

[Anonymous No.12617446]

>>12616151
lol go outside nerd

[Anonymous No.12617508]

>>12611462
With an aerospace engineering degree you could fill pretty much all mechanical engineering roles so you can only blame yourself

[Anonymous No.12617511]

Are engineering degrees in the USA way more narrow than in Europe? Like even if you do some specialized stuff like biomedical engineering or robotics your job prospects are virtually the same as with a traditional degree in Germany.

[Anonymous No.12617543]

I’ve applied for and been accepted for 7 jobs in 4 years after I graduated with a MEng in Aerospace Engineering. That’s the result of about 40 applications.

One of the following is true:

You job searching methods are crap.
Your CV looks crap.
You interview terribly.

[Anonymous No.12617591]

>>12611462
To how many companies did you apply? Lemme guess, boeing, nasa and that, eh, that other company that makes F16s uh?

[Anonymous No.12617606]

>>12614204
You know what averages are
The average salary in USA is $55.000

[Anonymous No.12617637]

>>12611462
What the fuck is wrong with you people? Engineering is dead, my ass! The company I work for currently has thousands of engineers and is continuously hiring even during down turns. Behind every manufacturing operation are engineers. Aero guys are going to be more specialized true, but I'm a fucking metallurgist and have always found good work to be had. I finally deleted my LinkedIn because of the constant head hunting. Fucking annoying. If you cannot find a job in engineering aero or otherwise, its you.

Also, everybody has to know some programming because data.

Look into engineering temp agencies. Good way to get some experience and make connections. They provide companies with a try before they buy option.

[Anonymous No.12617808]

What is the best way to boost my resume as a mechanical engineer? Internships I know, but what else? Should I do projects or programming?

[Anonymous No.12617851]

>>12617808
Business skills

[Anonymous No.12617898]

>>12617851
How does one obtain business skills?

[Anonymous No.12617912]

>>12611462
Should have gone electrical engineering
T. FPGA engineer

[Anonymous No.12617934]

>>12617808
What's your situation, still studying or already graduated?
It's a big bonus to have some real projects under your belt from school, gives you something to talk about during an interview. And programming is always a useful skill to have.

[Anonymous No.12617962]

Well... you guys should have been born Chinese I guess. The current capitalistic west has no need for engineering, only service and consuming. That is the contemporary meaning of life. Servicing so you can consume in your detached home later.

[Anonymous No.12617965]

>>12617934
sophomore

[Anonymous No.12618146]

>>12617898
Elective courses.

People underestimate that companies are way more interested in people who know the basics of project management and business administration - even basic law knowledge helps a lot. Programming doesn’t help much outside of very specific jobs like embedded systems

[Anonymous No.12619558]

Out of curiosity OP you did graduate from a top 10 aerospace ENGINEERING program, right? Not all ivies have top ranked engineering programs. Princeton is very good but from what I hear places like uPenn aren't particularly special
Also this board is retarded and puts aerospace engineering degrees in high tier. Aerospace engineering is basically getting a degree in mechanical engineering but with your job prospects massively reduced. CivE and MechE are the fields with the most jobs while Materials, Aerospace, and Petroleum all have massive job finding issues.

[Anonymous No.12619569]

>>12617965
For grad school you should seriously start working with influential professors (look at their info and find the ones in your department that graduated from top level universities) and start working with them. Letters of recommendation from these people are the most important factor in grad school applications.
For career do interning.

[Anonymous No.12619608]

>>12611669
You literally only hurt yourself by excluding yourself from military industrial complex jobs at this point. Shit sucking politicians will continue to leech off taxes for the corpos. And at Boeing you can at least look to transfer to civilian.

[Anonymous No.12619768]

>>12617912
t. FPGA engineer in AS who studied biomedical
Come at me bros, doesn't matter what you studied. Just git gud

[Anonymous No.12619817]

>>12617912
Seconded

[Anonymous No.12619904]

>>12617912
>>12619768
>>12619817
Is EE actually based? Currently I'm just planning into going for CS

[Anonymous No.12620011]

>>12619904
EE gives you all options CS would give you

[Anonymous No.12621790]

>>12611501
maybe you'll even make the five hundred million cut, georgia guidestones style

[Anonymous No.12621904]

>>12611462
>public ivy league
Uh... What? Kinda self-aggrandizing. All 8 ivy league schools are private. Don't compare your crap school to an actual ivy league. Everyone knows they're in completely different ballparks.

[Anonymous No.12621945]

>>12611462

U fell for the classic "aerospace is awasome" jebait. May you be strong and find the way to fullfill your vocation, your not alone.

[Anonymous No.12621970]

>>12611462
>autist with literally no connections
>thinks that graduating some cum load means anything
>unironically believes that getting a degree and applying for jobs is all that it takes to make a career in engineering
You deserve to fail.

[Anonymous No.12622241]

>>12611462
Go in to a related trade. Aero repair tech, machinist or some shit. After 5 years when you get your qualification, swap the timeframe of your trade work with your degree and start applying for jobs.

[Anonymous No.12623485]

>>12622241
The absolute state

[Anonymous No.12623519]

any engineers have any experience with a REU? any tips for the personal statements

[Anonymous No.12623576]

unironically take your talents to china
if american companies won't appreciate what you bring to the table, make them regret it

[Anonymous No.12624466]

>>12611462
How's industrial engineering? I'm a third year EE student (degrees last 5 years here), and even though I'm maintaining a very good GPA I've come to realize I fucking hate anything involving design, i.e. working with Altium, printing + soldiering, nothing working, sleeping 4 hours a day because this fucking practical works takes so much time that I got no other choice but to load with coffee so that I can actually study the theory (which I do enjoy a lot) and keep the good GPA.
In any case, I've been considering switching to IE, since the practical/lab work is pretty much non-existent, and it seems to have a huge emphasis in statistics/data analysis (at least in my uni) which I enjoy and think might actually be a good career. In any case, any IE here? Would it be worth it to drop EE for it? Or should I power through with EE? Is there even any job an EE can do that doesn't involve any sort of manual/design stuff?

[Anonymous No.12624502]

>>12619904
>>12620011
I don't think software jobs will take you unless you have some extracurricular programming projects you can show, but if you can do that (which isn't too hard honestly, programming is pretty easy) then you should be able to get a lot of software jobs. But that is the case for any STEM major so EE is nothing special here. you also won't be able to get the six figure jobs that FAANG offer though, they explicitly interview for theoretical CS knowledge.

[Anonymous No.12624850]

>>12611462
Engineering is a humanities degree now

[Anonymous No.12624859]

>>12611500
>deep learning engineer
i.e. you plug together python methods and spend your day in hardware provider's forum getting your shit to run at the advertised energy levels?

[Anonymous No.12624861]

>>12624850
Look at top right graph in this pic

[Anonymous No.12624862]

>historic downturn in aerospace jobs due to covid
>massive glut of unemployed highly experienced aerospace engineers with connections all competing for scraps

>wow wtf i cant find a job in aerospace with a shitty uni degree

[Anonymous No.12624877]

Study math & physics and then do math & physics.
And by do math & physics I don't mean anything that has to do with a job and not even academia.

[Anonymous No.12625527]

MechE graduated in 2019 after fucking myself in every possible way, still no Eng job, considering just moving to a cabin in the woods and homesteading.

[Anonymous No.12625562]

>>12611555
>>12611567
>>12612872
>network
Networking is such a meme, it’s entire premise shows the lie, because it shows that there are less jobs than qualified peeps, so no matter how you network, most people are still going to be left out.
Most networking in reality is guy a was born into it (parents have connections) guy b is friends with guy a by luck of location(dorm/classroom seating/etc) and guy c,d,e,f,g...,etc. are shit out of luck and told
>why didn’t you network with guy a, who you never even saw or knew had a connection

[Anonymous No.12625570]

>>12624466
An old friend of mine was an EE student that went over to Industrial. Says he enjoyed it alot. Has a job working for VW now

[Anonymous No.12625847]

>>12611462
Are you autistic as fuck?, when I hire new engis ( I hire quite a lot for a very well known company) I throw out most of the resumes/ applications that focused more on grades than experience.

If I see something like "magna cum laude" on a resume it goes straight in the bin. You fucks that try too had for the best grades are annoying as fuck to work with, and fall apart if you need to get something done in a short time span or need to depend on best guess data or inputs.

Pro tip if you lower your grades on your resume and drop the sperg shit you will get way more callbcks.

[Anonymous No.12626392]

>>12619904
EE is based for opening do many doors to solid jobs, FPGA skills are based for being an incredibly understaffed market that's surging right now.

[Anonymous No.12626804]

bump

[Anonymous No.12627109]

>>12625847
>You fucks that try too had for the best grades are annoying as fuck to work with
Do you have greentexts?

[Anonymous No.12627323]

>>12625847
kek imagine being this jealous of people with good grades

[Anonymous No.12627440]

bump

[Anonymous No.12627663]

>>12611466
As someone that went for ChE.
Don't. For the love of god. Go for MechE.

[Anonymous No.12627681]

>>12611462
this is true. engineering is dead. I moved from my shithole country to France, got accepted in a top tier engineering school (energy systems master's), had a high gpa and 2 internships, I always was el "primero de la clase" and loved studying, but now I found myself working for a service entreprise, that sells my skills to a client (for about 500€/day but I only get 2000€/m) and whenever I'm about to master the skill needed for the job, they change my mission to another one so the present client doesn't hire me..
it's been like this for 2 years now, Do you think I should quit my job and start looking for a new one ? Also are there more opportunities in US/Canada?

[Anonymous No.12627713]

>>12627681
>Canada
I can speak for Canada.
Canada has
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[Anonymous No.12628066]

>Engineers in an absolute and constant state of angst over work prospects and overproduction of elites
>Meanwhile people in entertainment are making hundreds of thousands doing nothing but dogshit tik tok videos and travelling around living off of advertisement

Th human elite, heh??