/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.12598637]

/lit/izen here. This book makes /lit/ seethe and I wanted to see what /sci/ thinks about race and IQ. Thanks

[Anonymous No.12598641]

>>12598637
seems based

[Anonymous No.12598645]

I don't need to read no book to tell me niggers are stupid

[Anonymous No.12598650]

It’s bullshit now, get >>>/out/

[Anonymous No.12598653]

>>12598650
have you read it?

[Anonymous No.12598656]

>>12598641
>>12598645
based. I have always heard this board is cucked and blue pilled but perhaps not

>>12598650
>t.

[Anonymous No.12598660]

>>12598637
https://mpra.ub.uni-muenchen.de/36569/1/MPRA_paper_36569.pdf

[Anonymous No.12598667]

>>12598637

[Anonymous No.12598672]

>>12598637
I work in an extremely black city, and they almost invariably live up to the stereotype. I don't really see the point in reading something that reinforces what I already know...

[Anonymous No.12598754]

>>12598656
>I have always heard this board is cucked and blue pilled but perhaps not
This is rightful rightpilled clay and we must retake it from the blupilled infidels.

[Anonymous No.12598814]

>>12598656
Half of it's seething bluepilled.
The science of race and IQ is ironclad. Evolution's real, brains evolve, migration isolated human groups from each other in environments with different pressures. Theory predicts genetic intelligence differences and data confirms them.
The counterarguments are that evolution magically stopped at the neck half a million years ago to give a politically correct result today, the data is all wrong because intelligence tests are white supremacy with intrinsic bias against black people (bonus points for east Asians though) and intelligence is too vaguely ethereal to measure anyway, we can only measure how people score on intelligence tests which if anything has negative correlation to actual intelligence.

[Anonymous No.12598825]

>>12598814
>>12598754

[Anonymous No.12598829]

Nobody has read it, like at all

[Anonymous No.12598867]

https://ricochet.com/194295/archives/thomas-sowell-on-iq-and-race/
>A remarkable phenomenon commented on in the Moynihan report of thirty years ago goes unnoticed in The Bell Curve–the prevalence of females among blacks who score high on mental tests. Others who have done studies of high- IQ blacks have found several times as many females as males above the 120 IQ level. Since black males and black females have the same genetic inheritance, this substantial disparity must have some other roots, especially since it is not found in studies of high-IQ individuals in the general society, such as the famous Terman studies, which followed high-IQ children into adulthood and later life. If IQ differences of this magnitude can occur with no genetic difference at all, then it is more than mere speculation to say that some unusual environmental effects must be at work among blacks.
I hate niggers as much as anyone but girls deal better with pressure (happened to me IRL) but it’s true for black guys in IQ. Sowell is the best writer and also makes lit seethe.

[Anonymous No.12598876]

>>12598637
Oh look, a thread on IQ and race that has never been debated before.
Thank you OP.

I'll tell you something about the bell curve:
>You're on it right at the
>BELL END

[Anonymous No.12598878]

>>12598876
Thanks for the bump

[Anonymous No.12598880]

>>12598637
Define race scientifically
Define IQ scientifically and exact methodology

Then define the genetic link scientifically and irrefutably to the definition of IQ

[Anonymous No.12598904]

>>12598880
no, read the book you fucking faggot

[Anonymous No.12598911]

>>12598637
fuck off to /pol/ incels

[Anonymous No.12598922]

>>12598911
We're taking over /sci deal with it. This is the reconquista.

[Anonymous No.12598929]

>>12598911

[Anonymous No.12598933]

>>12598880
Define define
Define genetic

Then define why you are fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.12598958]

>>12598660
/thread

[Anonymous No.12598963]

>>12598904
>t. hasn't read the book

[Anonymous No.12598968]

>>12598963
I’ve read most of it from screenshots on /pol/

[Anonymous No.12598972]

>>12598968
lol

[Anonymous No.12598977]

>>12598958
>I read the first few lines of a pdf and it says what I want to believe, racists btfo'd!>we did it redit!
kys you fucking retard
https://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/12/23/race-iq-and-lead/

[Anonymous No.12598979]

>>12598968
Based

[Anonymous No.12598981]

>>12598977
>alt hypothesis
Lol

[Anonymous No.12598982]

>>12598968
hahahaha

[Anonymous No.12598984]

>>12598981
>you
top lel

[Anonymous No.12598985]

>>12598968
>this is /pol/tard education

[Anonymous No.12598997]

>>12598637
yes it is real but that doesn't justify killing all blacks. and of course it's only real if we accept the iq data used, which many here like to believe selectively (see asian, jewish, iq scores, which are 'fake' according to /pol/ because they say so). allowing people to live based off their usefulness to society is a very cynical mentality, which easy explains why so many here are Keen to adopt it. (even though most of you would be killed based on usefulness yourselves..) it's also a liberal mentality in many ways which is why liberals have to deny it, otherwise they would have to adopt the position that blacks should be killed.

[Anonymous No.12599008]

>>12598997
not even memeing, take your meds. wtf are you even on about schizo?

[Anonymous No.12599022]

>>12599008
what specific point don't you understand?

[Anonymous No.12599036]

>>12599022
hes just having an NPC meltdown very common amongst the blupilled

[Anonymous No.12599037]

>>12598829
Yeah the book itself isn't about race/IQ but it does mention it which is more than anything else has done in the last hundred years, plus it's called the Bell Curve which is what the actual data is like so it's become representative of the whole debate.
>>12598880
>doesn't know basic vocab and can't use a dictionary
This is literally their argument.

[Anonymous No.12599041]

https://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/july-diary-iq-and-immigration-strip-mining-the-smart-fraction-numbers-and-visit-to-china-etc/

[Anonymous No.12599049]

>>12599036
he could also be a redpilled npc, as it goes against their doctrine (as to the extent I'm not sure). anyone who needs to consume an external stimulus to reach a conclusion- rather than observing the external to reach a conclusion of one's one- is an npc.

[Anonymous No.12599068]

>>12599049
*one's own

[Anonymous No.12599104]

bumping for /pol dominance over /sci

[Anonymous No.12599108]

>>12599104
It’s two forward slashes you twit

[Anonymous No.12599115]

>>12599108
Nah just gonna use the chad casual slash

[Anonymous No.12599120]

I remember a line in the first or second chapter along the lines of "technology will become like an electronic opiate to the lower IQ subset of the population", I thought that was quite accurate. I’m a midwit and I basically fried my brain with staring at the internet all day every day for years, and I see this phenomenon effecting lots of people.

[Anonymous No.12599122]

>>12599104
>>>/lit/17322630

[Anonymous No.12599129]

>>12599104
>/pol
back to r*ddit

[Anonymous No.12599136]

>>12599122
lmao

[Anonymous No.12599165]

>>12598637
Epigenetics has shone light on how much the environment influences what genes are expressed. It's not a one way street like was thought were genes are simply read. Nurture plays a huge role and the quality of nurture goes up with wealth. Whites have been historically wealthier for the most part aside from jews. Surprise, jews also have a higher average IQ. It's almost as if money and quality of life is the biggest factor

[Anonymous No.12599179]

>>12599165
>It's almost as if money and quality of life is the biggest factor
Except this has been unqeustionably debunked. You dont even have any interl logic in your argument rofl. Why are whites smarter? Because of their wealth! How do you create wealth? Being intelligent! You are a retard

[Anonymous No.12599191]

>>12599165
Jews share a lot of dna with whites, do I don't know how good of an example this is. they were also prohibited from being farmers so they could only have intellectual jobs to survive. if you give a mouse unlimited resources it will still be stupid. That said I am just playing devil's advocate mainly. The flyn effect already solves the nature/nurture issue scientifically, basically what you said.

[Anonymous No.12599193]

>>12599179
>How do you create wealth? Being intelligent!
Yet jews are some of the wealthiest, yet their supposed high intelligence is debunked, why can't /pol/tards make their mind up?

[Anonymous No.12599197]

>>12598637
test

[Anonymous No.12599199]

>>12599179
>How do you create wealth? Being intelligent!
not always true.
>unqeustionably debunked
by whom? and how do you explain the flyn effect?

[Anonymous No.12599200]

>>12598637
Go back to /pol/

[Anonymous No.12599201]

>>12599179
Take a child from any ethnicity and raise them in the same wealthy environment and they'll end up just as smart. You see this in all top tier univertisities. And the scientific community is getting more and more diversified as the wealth slowly spreads among all races

[Anonymous No.12599206]

>>12598672
t. confirmation bias
go back to >>>/pol/ racist pig

[Anonymous No.12599208]

>>12599200
This is /pol/ with numbers now.

[Anonymous No.12599216]

>>12599201
>Take a child from any ethnicity and raise them in the same wealthy environment and they'll end up just as smart
No ..... not at all. You have no idea what you are talking about and just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.

[Anonymous No.12599224]

>>12599199
by the studies you were just given you autsitic fucking retard. Try actually paying attention to what you are being told before running more lip dipshit

[Anonymous No.12599226]

>>12599216
>throwing stats and facts from 40 years ago
Half of your top scientists are black and muslim now, grandpa. Take your meds and go to sleep

[Anonymous No.12599251]

>>12599224
these studies to not debunk the flyn effect (which is essentially the argument you are claiming to debunk). I'll quote it for you:

"The Flynn effect is the substantial and long-sustained increase in both fluid and crystallized intelligence test scores that were measured in many parts of the world over the 20th century.[1] When intelligence quotient (IQ) tests are initially standardized using a sample of test-takers, by convention the average of the test results is set to 100 and their standard deviation is set to 15 or 16 IQ points. When IQ tests are revised, they are again standardized using a new sample of test-takers, usually born more recently than the first. Again, the average result is set to 100. However, when the new test subjects take the older tests, in almost every case their average scores are significantly above 100."

meaning that iq changes over time within a given racial population. if iq is fixed to race, it would not change in a given race over a short period of time. this means that two genetically identical communities can be measured to have different iqs. and since communities are formed based on race (mainly), there is no way to compare two race's iq without also comparing two communities, which is subject to the flyn effect, so one cannot arrive at a conclusion regarding a given races iq compared to another race.

[Anonymous No.12599254]

>>12598997
It's not about killing anyone. Because, if people can accept that asians are smarter, why not accept that blacks are stupid?

[Anonymous No.12599261]

>>12598977
Iran doesn’t have this issue and they use leaded gas. Fuck off retard.

[Anonymous No.12599273]

>>12599254
because according to the liberal doctrine of making the world a better place blacks must be killed. the solution is obviously to kill liberals

[Anonymous No.12599348]

>>12599251
I know what the fucking flynn effect is you fuckign retard and if you knew what you are talking about you would know it has reversed now with all the 3rd world immigrants

[Anonymous No.12599351]

>>12598637
Yes, a general factor of intelligence exists and is important but the variance in IQ between people can be explained entirely by environmental factors. Childhood nutrition, Socioeconomic status, school quality, and so on. Absolutely nothing happens in the factor analysis process to tell us about what the causes are for people having different measurable levels of intelligence. And even if we accept a single general exists, that would not necessarily imply genetic causation.

[Anonymous No.12599409]

>>12598814
>The counterarguments are that evolution magically stopped at the neck half a million years ago
strawman

[Anonymous No.12599410]

>>12599348
do you think flyn effect just means as time increases, iq increases? what a retarded take. obviously immigrants will lower the average iq in a given 1st world country, because the flyn effect has not occured yet in immigrant populations. Given enough time, they too will reap the rewards of flyn. clearly you haven't gotten it's effects, being that your iq is on par with sub saharan africans.

[Anonymous No.12599490]

>>12599037
90% of liberal arguments are just
>if I change the meaning of words, your argument doesn't work anymore

Its like saying "if you actually meant 2 every time you wrote 1, your math is wrong"

[Anonymous No.12599497]

>>12599410
stfu donkey

[Anonymous No.12599503]

>>12599409
you dont know what a strawman is do you dumb fuck kek. That is literally the only counter option

[Anonymous No.12599604]

>>12598968
extremely based