/sfg/ - Space Flight General

[Anonymous No.12571459]

previous >>12567542

[Anonymous No.12571463]

ISS look will be forever altered soon, I just wish it was symmetric...

[Anonymous No.12571465]

>>12571459
Forgive them for using Hydrogen, Father, for they know not of the power of Methane

[Anonymous No.12571466]

>>12571459
12m ITS is unrivalled kino, starship looks like a fucking tintin rocket...

[Anonymous No.12571471]

>>12571465
oh yeah? BRRRRAAAAAAAP

[Anonymous No.12571472]

first for the ISV Venture Star
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zuVTJNALwQ

[Anonymous No.12571478]

Apollo photo of the day

>View of Aristarchus and Herodotus taken sometime during Revs 64-72.

[Anonymous No.12571480]

>>12571478
Have a look at those grabens

[Anonymous No.12571481]

an extra because I forgot yesterday
>Tobias Mayer, Sea of Rains.

[Anonymous No.12571492]

>>12571463
What do you mean? The Axiom modules?

[Anonymous No.12571493]

>>12571492
the wings bro the wings

[Anonymous No.12571497]

>>12571463
How much better are the new solar panels anyway?

[Anonymous No.12571500]

>>12571497
much apparently, so hopefully they will add the last set, this is triggering my OCD half ironically

[Anonymous No.12571501]

>>12571492
The outgassing tape module bro

[Anonymous No.12571506]

>>12571463
Wtf I thought they were replacing the old ones.

[Anonymous No.12571508]

>>12571506
if it ai'nt brekoke

[Anonymous No.12571512]

>>12571508
stupid auto reply

if it ain't broke*

[Anonymous No.12571568]

>>12571463
maybe this time they can do it without the twist-ties

[Anonymous No.12571570]

Is it true that SpaceX doesn't fund any r&d?

[Anonymous No.12571572]

Why isn’t the US Government pumping money into Starship? If I was Elon I’d feel betrayed, man. The US will have three operational superheavy launch vehicles in the next two years and two of them are from SpaceX. I don’t know why NASA isn’t at least giving them a yearly stipend of $1 Billion. Shit sucks man.

Fun fact. Superheavy BN1 will catch up to Artemis 1’s Core in terms of readiness in the next few weeks. It’s amazing.

[Anonymous No.12571577]

>>12571570
Yes. That’s because Falcon rockets just spring out from the ground fully formed.

[Anonymous No.12571582]

>>12571472
Never understood how this thing is supposed to work.
The engines are in a puller config that would blast the rest of the ship with exhaust. The photon sail is not clear whether it's in a puller or pusher config, but it doesn't look capable of transferring force to the rest of the ship without snapping off.

[Anonymous No.12571599]

>>12571568

[Anonymous No.12571601]

>>12571570

[Anonymous No.12571613]

>>12571582
>The engines are in a puller config that would blast the rest of the ship with exhaust

They’re angled away.

> The photon sail is not clear whether it's in a puller or pusher config, but it doesn't look capable of transferring force to the rest of the ship without snapping off.

That’s actually a shield.

[Anonymous No.12571614]

>>12571572
>Superheavy BN1 will catch up to Artemis 1’s Core in terms of readiness in the next few weeks
jesus
just put it out of its misery before it needlessly destroys priceless museum artefacts

[Anonymous No.12571628]

>>12571572
>why isn't US government doing the reasonable thing
get a load of this guy

[Anonymous No.12571636]

>>12571572
It was a relatively short time between the invention of the airplane and the DoD dispensing billions of dollars for C130’s. Just give it time. As of right now the government is perfectly content spending millions for delta heavy launches; as soon as starship proves itself flight worthy I’m sure the government will dump their money into it. Especially if it can only accomplish even 50% of what Elon is promising

[Anonymous No.12571640]

I pray every night before bed that this SLS core blows up during its green run

[Anonymous No.12571643]

SLS is cool

[Anonymous No.12571649]

>>12571643
SLS was cool back in 2014 when it felt like it could do anything. Not anymore.

[Anonymous No.12571650]

>>12571572
Politics, once it's flight proven and does something interesting (Dear Moon) you'll see all these media articles questioning why NASA is spending so many billions on a rocket that hasn't even launched & things will change.

[Anonymous No.12571652]

>>12571643
(you)

[Anonymous No.12571663]

>>12571650
Fuckin' A, Bubba.

[Anonymous No.12571674]

>>12571650
5 bucks says they’ll never have any sort of ambition or want to do anything meaningful in space

[Anonymous No.12571675]

Starship was foretold by the ancients

[Anonymous No.12571678]

>>12571675
And we're late

[Anonymous No.12571683]

>>12571613
>They’re angled away.
Yea but barely. Exhaust expansion would still btfo the rest of the ship, especially the shield/sail thing.

>That’s actually a shield.
The wiki says it's a laser shield used to reflect the laser from Earth, so it's still meant to transfer force to the rest of the ship. Why do the engines have that massive tapered truss structure but the "laser shield" is just on the end of a stick?

[Anonymous No.12571691]

>>12571683
VentureStar is a partially realistic vehicle in the same way that Endurance from Interstellar and Hermes from the Martian are. It’s realistic but a lot of it is so-so.

Rocinante is probably a bit below these ships. It’s realistic but horribly fudges the numbers.

[Anonymous No.12571702]

>>12571683
>Why do the engines have that massive tapered truss structure but the "laser shield" is just on the end of a stick?
Less thrust from the laser array

[Anonymous No.12571710]

>>12571683
Laser shield is just to protect the hab area
Whatever sail to catch the laser would hook onto the front and is not shown

[Anonymous No.12571729]

[Anonymous No.12571735]

>>12571729
Looks so fake
Fuck anyone who believes that’s real

[Anonymous No.12571738]

>>12571729
SN8 was the first starship to reach for the void and not come back in one piece. May she Rest In Peace.

[Anonymous No.12571741]

>>12571735
You Will Never Be a Woman

[Anonymous No.12571743]

>>12571735
it's realer than SLS

[Anonymous No.12571755]

>>12571741
Trannies make me sad. They’re pitiful

[Anonymous No.12571766]

>>12571743
Starship is real. You've seen it down at Boca Chica. We're stacking the Superheavy. We have all the Raptors done, ready to be installed into the thrust puck in Texas. I don't see any hardware for a SLS, except that they’re going to take a Shuttle External Tank and put an upper stage on it and that becomes the Space Launch System (tm). It's not that easy in rocketry

[Anonymous No.12571787]

>>12571766

[Anonymous No.12571845]

>>12571787
how do they keep getting away with it?

[Anonymous No.12571846]

>>12571787
Looks real to me

[Anonymous No.12571849]

>>12571787
Better means it should take much longer.

[Anonymous No.12571861]

>>12571787
I don't know how anyone can deny the fact that the SLS is a complete disaster in every way possible

[Anonymous No.12571891]

>>12571861
Because it will still fucking work regardless of how inefficient it may seem.

[Anonymous No.12571903]

>>12571891
>*RUDs*

[Anonymous No.12571932]

If you had two perfectly symmetrical planets, and you made them orbit within, like, ten feet of eachother, could you reach out and grab something from the hand of someone on another planet?

[Anonymous No.12571946]

>>12571932
No, since the gravitational tidal forces would tear the planets apart long before they got that close

[Anonymous No.12571948]

>>12571572
If BN1 static fires before the Green Run is done, SLS is fucked.

[Anonymous No.12571960]

>>12571572
? SLS hot fire is in 5 days retard. Elon said BN1 is "3 months away". that usually means fucking never in elon time

[Anonymous No.12571962]

>>12571960
SLS will get delayed again because of a problem with the tank foam. That stuff is cursed.

[Anonymous No.12571968]

>>12571960
SLS hot fire was supposed to happen 3 YEARS ago. I'd say Elons' 3 months isn't that bad comparatively

[Anonymous No.12571979]

>>12571960
I said it’ll “Catch Up” in a few weeks. When will Artemis 1’s core fly, again? When will BN1 fly?

[Anonymous No.12571984]

>>12571962
>>12571968
the thing you're missing to factor in is based on recent events, NASA is all out of fucks to give. They pissed on SLS to get Europa clipper the fuck off of it, they told lockheed to shove it up their ass when they said taking orion apart to fix some gay thing would delay a year, they told boeing to fuck off when they tried to delay for months after the failed WDR.

NASA is over SLS. They probably want it to rud at this point, based on their moves, and who could blame them? Only a RUD can help cancel this monstrosity.

[Anonymous No.12571989]

>>12571979
I concede. the next NASA administrator will want to do a 6-month review of the whole program and halt development until said review is complete

[Anonymous No.12571997]

>>12571984
I’m 98% sure NASA realized that SpaceX will use Starship with or without them.

[Anonymous No.12571999]

>>12571984
where's the ULA sniper when you need one

[Anonymous No.12572013]

>>12571989
>SLS gets killed, all blame for incompetence is put on orange man and his staff
>Orion flies on FH, Obama gets credit for inventing private space
>money NOT spent on SLS gets spent on climate sats (launching on F9's and Starships)
>Artemis still happens because stunning and brave first woman and because ESA and other countries are on it too
anyone willing to bet this is how it works out?

[Anonymous No.12572014]

>>12571999
ULA is part of the SLS bandwagon in fact the entire upper stage is transplanted from one of their delta rockets...

[Anonymous No.12572016]

>>12572013
SLS support has been consistently bipartisan (or unipartisan as we saw recently). Expect its survival even at the cost of other programs, the only thing that will get cancelled or redirected will be the moon landing that wasn't serious effort anyway.

[Anonymous No.12572021]

>>12572016
>Moon landings are cancelled
>Which is still why we need the moon rocket hahahaha :)”

[Anonymous No.12572023]

>>12572013
SpaceX wins either way, as usual

[Anonymous No.12572032]

>>12572021
SLS literally exists for itself - there is no mission for it and never was outside of clipper that was tied to it through congressional "rub my back I'll rub yours" kind of trade for the two programs. This is in stark contrast with the saturn v or even starship, the former being build to get men to the moon, the latter to get men to mars.

No problem whatsoever with what you said. It could be used to launch big climate sat or even Orion to the ISS if they really want to use it as more than a giant dildo.

[Anonymous No.12572046]

>>12571984
>failed WDR
What happened there anyway?

[Anonymous No.12572048]

>In the baseline mission profile, Europa Clipper is planned to be carried aboard NASA's Space Launch System (SLS) heavy-lift launch vehicle,[42][43] on a direct trajectory to Jupiter in less than three years.[2] As of November 2020, it should be ready for launch by 2024.[6] Congress has mandated that Europa Clipper be launched on SLS, but NASA has requested that other vehicles be allowed to launch the spacecraft due to a foreseen lack of available SLS vehicles.[6] The United States Congress's 2021 omnibus spending bill directs the NASA Administrator to conduct a full and open competition to select a commercial launch vehicle if the conditions to launch the probe on a SLS rocket cannot be met.[91]

>Since the development and readiness of the SLS may not match the mission's timing, an alternative trajectory profile would use a commercial rocket such as a Falcon Heavy, with a longer 6-year cruise time involving gravity assist maneuvers at Venus, Earth and/or Mars.[92] Another option is to launch on a Falcon Heavy and with a Star 48B solid rocket (812 m/s) or a Castor 30B solid rocket (3030 m/s) as a kick stage. This would require only one gravity assist, with Earth, and would shorten the cruise phase significantly.[93]
>Falcon Heavy, with a longer 6-year cruise
>longer
because delta v of Falcon Heavy is smaller than sls?

[Anonymous No.12572050]

>>12572016
>>12572032
you can push a lot through corporate lobbying, but there's a limit to that
especially when there's a 100 times cheaper alternative with world's richest man pushing it through as well

[Anonymous No.12572053]

>>12572014
isnt the entire rocket ULA owned? after LM bought AJRD?

[Anonymous No.12572062]

>>12572053
No, the core stage is boing, the upeer ula, the boosters someone else.

[Anonymous No.12572064]

> Due to an apparent agreement with Cameron County to avoid road closures on the weekend, Starship SN9’s next shot at a second static fire was delayed three days to Monday, January 11th. Possibly due to high winds and generally unfavorable weather, Monday’s static fire attempt was called off before the window opened.
How can high winds and unfavorable weather interfere static fire? Isn't it "static" ?

[Anonymous No.12572076]

>>12571738

It's 2000 20 fucking 1 and people still make low shitty quality gifs for ants instead of webms.

[Anonymous No.12572083]

>>12572062
ULA imcludes boeing. the boosters are NG

[Anonymous No.12572103]

>>12571678
Gotta post the colour version.

[Anonymous No.12572112]

>>12572103
actually didn't know there was one.
Guess it was easier to print the book in black and white

[Anonymous No.12572115]

>>12572076
It's 2000 20 fucking 1 and people still launch rockets into space instead of spaceships.

[Anonymous No.12572160]

>>12572046
They were amazed to discover that contractors being contractually obligated to deliver up to spec stuff doesn't necessarily mean they actually do and you still have to check shit before slapping it in place.

[Anonymous No.12572178]

>>12571463
They are already behind the schedule.

[Anonymous No.12572179]

>>12571570
Yes, Starship is being developed by voluntaries

[Anonymous No.12572189]

>>12571570
100%

[Anonymous No.12572192]

Will starhopper bless us with a successful landing this time?

[Anonymous No.12572220]

>>12572192
I'm going with no, my money is on #4 being the first landing.

[Anonymous No.12572226]

>>12572178
This looks structurally unstable.

[Anonymous No.12572245]

>>12572226
>not even my final form

[Anonymous No.12572252]

>>12572226
just add struts

[Anonymous No.12572257]

>>12571463
Imagine not liking the asymmetric Space Station Freedom.

[Anonymous No.12572276]

>>12572257
Who comes up with the names for this shit?

[Anonymous No.12572278]

>>12572276
Just wait until Space Station Inclusion.

[Anonymous No.12572281]

>>12572276
Ronald Reagan himself came up with Freedom

[Anonymous No.12572289]

>>12572276
Big American projects are always named Independence, Liberty or Freedom

[Anonymous No.12572291]

kino

[Anonymous No.12572295]

So apparently there might be a static fire for SN9 today? Is that right?

And it could fly as early as tomorrow?

Sources:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1382813/spacex-starship-launch-what-time-is-launch-sn9-boca-chica-evg
https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1382378/spacex-launch-starship-sn9-test-flight-spacex-latest-evg

[Anonymous No.12572301]

>>12572295
Static fire cancelled for today due to bad weather. Hop not probable this week for the same reason.

[Anonymous No.12572306]

>>12572178
Would be pain in the ass to move from "top" to "bottom"

[Anonymous No.12572311]

Does this work?

[Anonymous No.12572312]

>>12572301
nah, static fire today is still on.

>>12572295
>And it could fly as early as tomorrow?
I guess it technically could? But that's really unlikely.

[Anonymous No.12572313]

>>12572301
How does weather prevent from doing static fire, will the wind blow out the fire?

[Anonymous No.12572319]

>>12572313
Raptor is too sensitive

[Anonymous No.12572320]

>>12572276
the eternal senator shelby

[Anonymous No.12572321]

>>12572311
As long as your ring world is mechanically strong enough to hold together despite the difference in force due to differing proximity to the star, then yes

[Anonymous No.12572322]

>>12572311
ringworlds are pointless anyway, even if you could do them you could get a much larger density with a dyson sphere (as in swarm not the retarded solid shell one)

[Anonymous No.12572323]

>>12572313
Raptor is too weak, it will never work on Mars and Musk is a fraud

[Anonymous No.12572327]

>>12572319
>>12572313

[Anonymous No.12572328]

>>12571463
I thought space had no air..... why do all space stations have wings?

[Anonymous No.12572336]

>>12572328
>LowQualityBait.jpg

[Anonymous No.12572337]

>>12572328
To generate lift using the flow of aether across the wings. That's how they can stay up indefinitely - think of it like a very large kite.

[Anonymous No.12572343]

>>12572322
>not the retarded solid shell one

I bet the chaddest Type II civs got perfect AU-radius unobtanium spheres and make fun of flimsy virgin dyson swarms.

[Anonymous No.12572347]

>>12572328
Because they looks cool obviously.

[Anonymous No.12572348]

I wish MrBeast was my friend. I wish I could hold his hand and cheer him on his way to the Moon. Truly he will be our generation's epic ambassador, rock on Mr Beast!

[Anonymous No.12572351]

Undocking soon, fellow dragoons.

[Anonymous No.12572352]

>>12572348

[Anonymous No.12572358]

>>12572321
I don't think the differential between the far side and the near side would be enough to tear apart a ringworld, considering it already has to be made out of some tough shit in the first place just to exist. Its center of mass would only need to be slightly above the star and would be a fairly negligible change.
>>12572322
Yeah but I want an endless horizon. I'm still all for spin grav space habitats though.

[Anonymous No.12572360]

>>12572328
Because they're fueled with Red Bull.

[Anonymous No.12572366]

>>12572348
dont tell me we have mr beast sniffers in here now

[Anonymous No.12572371]

>>12572348
So far, MZ has propositioned Damien Chazelle, Ryan Gosling, Ringo Starr, and MrBeast. Have I missed anyone?

[Anonymous No.12572373]

>>12572301
>>12572312
When do you think the hop is likely to happen then?

[Anonymous No.12572377]

>>12572328
The ISS is on the edge of space which means there's air underneath the wings but not on top of them

The wings keep the ISS in its position

[Anonymous No.12572381]

>>12572377
finally a serious answer

[Anonymous No.12572389]

>>12572373
Q2 2021

[Anonymous No.12572396]

>>12572389
Thank God you missed dubs.

[Anonymous No.12572405]

Anyone else watching the undocking on NASA stream?
>We are currently broadcasting to you from the White Flight Communications Center
Kek

[Anonymous No.12572408]

>>12572405
undocking of wat?

[Anonymous No.12572410]

>>12572371
>Ringo Starr
If Ringo goes he better bring some fookin' drums and a guitar. We haven't had enough experiments with music in space. Bonus if he brings up a Sgt. Pepper suit.

[Anonymous No.12572413]

>>12572405
links, faggot

[Anonymous No.12572415]

>>12572408
Cargo Dragon. Got delayed yesterday, but just got cleared for today. Coming up momentarily.
SpaceseX just can't stop winning.

[Anonymous No.12572424]

>>12572413
youtube.com/watch?v=21X5IGIDOfg

[Anonymous No.12572433]

>>12572424

[Anonymous No.12572434]

>>12572424
>Video unavailable
You fucked up the link m8, use copy/paste from your URL bar.

[Anonymous No.12572436]

>>12572434
Phoneposting. Why don't you just use Spacelaunchnow.me or, God forbid, just go to NASA's stream on YouTube?

[Anonymous No.12572441]

>>12572415
can you be a bit more mature?

[Anonymous No.12572447]

>>12572371
Has anyone actually accepted their offers?

[Anonymous No.12572449]

>>12572441
I can, but I usually save that for work.

[Anonymous No.12572453]

>>12572328
Because for years the white man has exploited black people and that explotation goes on in the heavens, which should be part of blacks also. By law the us goverment should only allow black astronauts, but while this is in the works spaceships have wings to symbolize the wings of black souls that were opresed before

[Anonymous No.12572456]

>>12572371
Sounds like autistic express, why noone from sfg then?

[Anonymous No.12572459]

>>12572278
George Floyd Space Station

[Anonymous No.12572462]

>>12572453
Uh, sweaty? Being an astronaut IS oppressive. All for the enjoyment of a government or corporation and a bunch of watching wh*tes you sacrifice your body in a blighted wasteland. Clearly therefore, for their own good blacks should be prevented from exploitation by keeping them on Earth, permanently. ONLY whites carry the burden of spaceflight to prevent a return to the horrors of slavery.

[Anonymous No.12572468]

>>12572459
I wonder what they will say when the oxygen cuts out after they break the equipment up there.

[Anonymous No.12572469]

>>12572447
Damien (tentatively) and MrBeast want to go. Ringo and Gosling not as much

[Anonymous No.12572484]

>>12572456
Maybe mrbeastly is here with us right now inside s f g

[Anonymous No.12572487]

>>12572462
it's sweetie

[Anonymous No.12572488]

>>12572487
Reality is what I make it

[Anonymous No.12572502]

>there have been ~1000 military submarines post-WW2
>only two ships have been sunk by subs since WW2
>Colombia class nuclear submarine program (12 submarines) costs 109 billion dollars, about as much as the ISS

Why is the military so wasteful bros... even if a fraction of that money was put to space travel

[Anonymous No.12572521]

>>12572502
Well we haven’t had a world war since ww2 nor has their been any real conflict between navel powers since ww2 so you probably aren’t going to see shit like that.

[Anonymous No.12572529]

>>12572487
Not in MY candy factory it isn't!

[Anonymous No.12572534]

>>12572468
das racis

[Anonymous No.12572540]

[Anonymous No.12572551]

>>12572468
ManReadingSensibleChuckleMagazine.png

[Anonymous No.12572553]

>>12572462
lol that sweaty cracks me up

[Anonymous No.12572592]

>>12571741
Is there a second of the day that you are not thinking about trannies?

[Anonymous No.12572611]

>>12572592
dilate cope and seethe

[Anonymous No.12572612]

>>12572373
Late this week/early next week. Assuming no more unlucky delays

[Anonymous No.12572630]

Yeah it's me again.

Tell me how pic related isn't unironically the most efficient and cost effective way for a fully reusable 1500 tonne to LEO launch system.

I've done some digging and I've discovered that linear aerospikes that burn RP1 aren't as difficult to build as I've been led to believe here. Also, seawater corrosion won't be an issue because protective coatings are readily available as are corrosion resistant stainless steels.

1/2

[Anonymous No.12572633]

2/2

[Anonymous No.12572644]

>>12572633
>Project Poseidon
stopped reading there

[Anonymous No.12572645]

This amateur video got some really cool shots of SN8. https://youtu.be/bEjXaJwmXpY

[Anonymous No.12572651]

>>12572645
You can tell how high the angle of attack is at the start of the belly flop...

[Anonymous No.12572654]

>>12572651
...compared to the ship being virtually flat before landing

[Anonymous No.12572659]

>>12572654
It’s also nuts that those 3 tiny engines can lift such a huge thing. Raptors are crazy

[Anonymous No.12572689]

>>12572630
I remember discussing with you and I get the feeling you immediately forgot every point and conflated them together. Aerospike is a terrible choice because it offers no benefit. RP1 is a terrible choice because it's less efficient, doesn't burn cleanly and thus can't be utilized in a full flow engine, and perhaps most importantly at this scale is already like 10x more efficient but that's before anyone ever tried to fill a pregnant guppy the size of a couple of container ships with it. Asking for more than the world supply of something balloons its cost dramatically as entire new supply lines have to be brought on.

[Anonymous No.12572692]

>>12572689
10x more expensive*

[Anonymous No.12572693]

>>12572659
Yeah they are

[Anonymous No.12572697]

>>12572633
use propane and flox instead

[Anonymous No.12572698]

>>12572659
>how can something made for pulling things ultra agresively up in the air at the harshest fastest of speeds possible lift up a 99.8% empty hollow structure which was made by literal engineers that literally spent literal 5 years trying to make it as light as possible

woah yeah,a amzing

[Anonymous No.12572701]

>>12572630
>>12572633
I have an idea anon , what if instead of boring and gay ch*mical rockets you used a NSWR?You could even tank it from the ocean.

[Anonymous No.12572705]

>>12572633
Oh yeah? My paper rocket can carry 99999 tons to orbit fully reusable. And it has 100m diameter. Jeez at least build this thing in ksp and prove it can reach orbit instead of arguing.

[Anonymous No.12572707]

>>12572698
>isn't impressed by Raptor
There's no need to lie anon.

[Anonymous No.12572716]

>>12572707
I think his point is not that the raptor is unimpressive anon but that the metric you've chosen is unimpressive. The hops are done with pretty low fuel and the vehicle is like a few thousand tons fully fueled vs. a couple hundred dry

[Anonymous No.12572721]

>>12572659

tbf, that's with no cargo, my understanding is that a fully loaded and fuelled starship wouldn't be able to get off the pad

[Anonymous No.12572727]

Okay so hear me out.
Water as a shield to protect from radiation on the journey to Mars.
Instead of pumping methane under the skin for Starship like Elon was thinking for reentry shielding,
water is pumped instead between two layers surrounding the crewed area of Starship.

[Anonymous No.12572741]

>>12572727
It makes more sense to have a thicker jacket of water around a storm shelter for acute solar storm dosages which are actually dangerous than a diffuse jacket around the whole vehicle to cut down a bit of the constant dosage which is already less important.

[Anonymous No.12572765]

>>12572076
I love goldeneye so much

[Anonymous No.12572766]

[Anonymous No.12572771]

>>12572766
That’ll be $200 million please!

[Anonymous No.12572778]

Most people here seem to expect no static fire today, but LabPadre is still reporting road closures and overpressure notice for today. Is there still a chance of a static fire today, or are they just being lazy and not updating things?

[Anonymous No.12572782]

>>12572766
tbf I'm not convinced that it'll ever fly

>>12572771
exactly. The big name engine slots are all taken, which leaves smaller launchers who absolutely cannot afford it. Firefly was going to consider it for their next, larger rocket (https://firefly.com/aerojet-rocketdyne-and-firefly-aerospace-to-provide-flexible-access-to-space/).). But it now looks like they're going with their in-house Reaver 2 design instead.

[Anonymous No.12572783]

>>12572766
For what rocket?
Fuel or Oxygen rich staged-combustion?
What is the cost?

[Anonymous No.12572786]

>>12572783
>For what rocket?
nothing so far. They literally made an engine with nothing to put it on
>Fuel or Oxygen rich staged-combustion?
it's keralox so it has to be ox-rich. From the start the AR1 was supposed to be competitive with the RD-180
>What is the cost?
too much

[Anonymous No.12572790]

>>12572766
>twice the thrust of a merlin for only 30x the cost
Ambitious for AR

[Anonymous No.12572799]

>>12572778
there's a static fire today until someone provides proof otherwise. Don't just blindly believe everything you read on 4chan, anon.

[Anonymous No.12572809]

You guys are Musk snobs.
There's nothing wrong with Aerojet. Maybe under Lockheed ownership they can get themselves back to the top.

[Anonymous No.12572811]

>>12572809
the pricetag is an issue and will always be an issue

[Anonymous No.12572822]

>>12572809
they literally lost to the BE-4 because their prices are so damn high. Aerojet has actual competition these days and they're going to have to adapt accordingly.

[Anonymous No.12572824]

>>12572799
blind spacex stan

[Anonymous No.12572830]

The New Glenn has the BEST engines, the BEST cargo capacity, the BEST looks, the BEST management and is owned by the BEST CEO ever. Your arguments are invalid for i am a GOD

[Anonymous No.12572831]

>forcing memes

[Anonymous No.12572833]

>>12572822
>Aerojet has actual competition these days and they're going to have to adapt accordingly.
That's what Lockheed is for.
Aerojet also has outstanding engineers.
They'll be fine.
>>12572811
I never said otherwise.

[Anonymous No.12572834]

>>12572809
>decrepit oldspace will surely flourish under decrepit oldspace
Dubious. And supporting grifters you were forced to accept for your whole life simply due to a government/corporate revolving door partnership snuffing out competition and innovation is ridiculous. I happily accept when anyone does anything right in aerospace, that's never going to be boing, lockheed, aerojet, ULA etc. ever again unless they are shaken to the very core. Don't kid yourself that they'll somehow halfass their way to new heights.

[Anonymous No.12572836]

The last time Elon lied to me about when launch would happen, I wet my bed. It was an awful night

[Anonymous No.12572841]

>>12572716
>>12572707
>insisting on intelligent and civil discussion
is this 4chan or is this a blm swj gay tranny estrogen flooded hand holding fest?

[Anonymous No.12572845]

>>12572790
the engine actually looks fairly modern, so perhaps the price won't be too ridiculous? There aren't a gorillion pipes along the bell at least

>>12572833
I'd love for aerojet to get back into the game. Hope Lockheed doesn't micromanage too much and fuck them up.

[Anonymous No.12572848]

>>12572786
>They literally made an engine with nothing to put it on
Well, the government paid for it so it's fine I guess.

[Anonymous No.12572849]

>>12572306
>tfw ywn explore a giant space station

[Anonymous No.12572851]

>>12572830
Not true, my magic unicorn fart driven spaceship beats New Glenn in all those metrics and its also a bit closer to being real

[Anonymous No.12572853]

>>12572849
ywn have races from one end to the other

[Anonymous No.12572856]

>>12572786
>They literally made an engine with nothing to put it on
lol its like the left-over chesse better get some nachos cycle...

huh, what should i do with all these leftover rocket designs? better make an engine for them

shit i made too many. Now i need to make engines for them

shit i made too many. Now i need to make rockets for them...

[Anonymous No.12572857]

>>12572809
They'll probably just invest more in their hypersonic weapons programs and drop the large liquid engines business entirely.

[Anonymous No.12572858]

>>12571570
This is the stupidest post I've read in a while and it has entertained me greatly.

[Anonymous No.12572861]

>>12572831
SpaceX stan ;)

[Anonymous No.12572863]

>>12572782
>which leaves smaller launchers who absolutely cannot afford it
Kek, aerojet rocketdyne charges so much that even ULA told them to fuck off and went with Blue Origin engines

[Anonymous No.12572864]

>>12572853
>hey anon, i'll race you to the other end of the station
>youre on, wink wink lol
*run around the donut shaped station for hours waiting for someone to ask what are they doing so they can make the joke again*

[Anonymous No.12572867]

>>12572863
soulless

[Anonymous No.12572873]

>>12572845
Aerospace and especially oldspace are always cagey with the price but the last I see cited is 25m. I compared it to Merlin just to show how bad it is but the direct comparison to RD180 is also terrible at 10m vs 25m, ~900k lb/f vs. ~500k lb/f

[Anonymous No.12572878]

>>12572830
Jeffrey Whomst?

[Anonymous No.12572886]

I read that trannies might actually be best suited for spaceflight because they have man strength plus female psychosis. Delightfully counterintuitive

[Anonymous No.12572889]

>>12572809
It isn't snobbery when no other company even comes close

[Anonymous No.12572890]

>>12572886
>half your astronauts commit suicide
Brilliant

[Anonymous No.12572891]

God bless our father

[Anonymous No.12572895]

>>12572886
No, the best suited people for spaceflight are either hyperasexual scientists or hypersexual test pilots

[Anonymous No.12572897]

>>12572895
fuck test pilots (aka white males)

[Anonymous No.12572898]

>>12572897
That's the idea

[Anonymous No.12572903]

>>12572897
bigot

[Anonymous No.12572904]

>>12572897

[Anonymous No.12572909]

>>12572904
What exactly happened to Ed Dwight? Did NASA tell him to fuck off? What a shame, he looks like an astronaut

[Anonymous No.12572914]

>>12572886
>>12572895

[Anonymous No.12572918]

anon...

[Anonymous No.12572921]

>>12572891
why does he have a stupid bubble on his head

[Anonymous No.12572922]

>>12572895
>No, the best suited people for spaceflight are either hyperasexual scientists or hypersexual test pilots

First expedition to mars. 9 scientists, 4 guys 5 girls, all of them laying face down on stretchers doing various activities, reading, playing chess, working on a computer plus one extremely sex crazed pilot whos on the verge on insanity goes around fucking them furiously, from time to time they have to move their head a bit from their work and suck his dick sideways while they keep working. They have to use noseplugs, earplugs, safety googles to prevent unwanted penetrations, and they have to pre-emptively use super lube on all of their holes. After raping all of them several times the pilot proceeds to bang his head against the wall while he masturbates until he passes out, the other astronauts have to feed him intravenously while hes unconcious and the next morning the cycle starts again

[Anonymous No.12572926]

>>12572921
I presume he is an oxygen enjoyer.

[Anonymous No.12572929]

>>12572453
Funny bait

[Anonymous No.12572940]

>>12572921
So he can breath

[Anonymous No.12572942]

>>12571466
18m Starship will probably look like ITS, just made of steel and the engine bells aren't exposed

[Anonymous No.12572947]

>>12572942
>>12571466
I really like the look of that half-skirt

[Anonymous No.12572960]

>>12572947
Me too. The protruding landing legs are also based as fuck and I hope they go with that design eventually

[Anonymous No.12572964]

I too like looking up skirts to see what is portruding

[Anonymous No.12572970]

Will Mars have Internet so I can watch OneyPlays?

[Anonymous No.12572978]

>>12572970
No, best case scenario there will be a terminal where you can queue videos you want to watch... but it will probably take a whole day to download all the data. Especially if you want to watch a video at 1080p or higher

[Anonymous No.12572980]

>>12572978
the only solution is to bring OneyPlays to mars

[Anonymous No.12572989]

>>12572980
Oneyplay's Tomars?

[Anonymous No.12572992]

>>12572980
Funny little characters on Olympus Mons

[Anonymous No.12572993]

SF?

[Anonymous No.12573001]

>>12572886
I'll be the first tranny on mars

[Anonymous No.12573032]

>>12572890
kindve a bigot stance, dont you think?

[Anonymous No.12573035]

When is Big Jim's official last day?

[Anonymous No.12573043]

https://www.ketk.com/news/space-discovery-fm-radio-signal-found-coming-from-jupiter-moon/
New context discovered on /pol/

[Anonymous No.12573045]

Pretty soon we'll have to start calling him Punished Jim. Now there's a good shoop idea

[Anonymous No.12573061]

>>12572993
later this afternoon, assuming no scrub

[Anonymous No.12573069]

>>12573043
>posting retarded /pol/ LARP here
Fuck off, flat earthers are better than this.

[Anonymous No.12573071]

>>12572630
build it in KSP otherwise it's just a paper rocket

[Anonymous No.12573075]

>>12573001
No, but you could be the first person to get forcibly ejected from an airlock or the first 'person' to kill themselves in space.

[Anonymous No.12573076]

>>12573043
lmao why is it written like some shitty drama hahaha

[Anonymous No.12573080]

>>12573043
>All these worlds are yours except Europa
>Attempt no landing there
>Use them together. Use them in peace.
>>12572890
Just think of the savings in CO2 scrubbers!

[Anonymous No.12573082]

>>12573043
Alright who left their shit in our solar system?
>>12573069
lol no they aren't

[Anonymous No.12573083]

>>12573069
>/pol/: on June 6, 2020 it emitted a strong signal for 6 seconds that Juno detected
>KETK: The spacecraft saw the moon’s radio emission for only five seconds.

[Anonymous No.12573091]

>>12573043
kind of an interesting coincidence, but probably only that.

[Anonymous No.12573095]

>>12573076
>>12573069
glowie damage control team reporting in

[Anonymous No.12573112]

>>12572799
Do we know when the static fire is or is it just going to be some random time?

[Anonymous No.12573116]

>>12572048
Yes. Kerolox small upper stage instead of 4x RS-25 hauling halfway to GTO.

[Anonymous No.12573117]

https://www.easyzoom.com/imageaccess/2cd222d722a24aad8c43012a34ddd38a

here's a fuckhuge photo of SN9. You can even make out the writing on it.

[Anonymous No.12573121]

>>12572921
Because Mars has naturally occurring soap bubbles

[Anonymous No.12573126]

>>12573112
Only spacex knows for sure. Nsf and eda usually start their streams when it's close. They get inside info sometimes. Could use them as a guesstimate

[Anonymous No.12573132]

>>12573117
some scribbles

[Anonymous No.12573137]

>>12573043
>Fed uses reddit spacing.
It might just be real lads.

[Anonymous No.12573139]

>>12573117
I guess they must be custom-printing these big-ass labels. Interesting to get glimpses into their logistics flow from stuff like this.

[Anonymous No.12573146]

>>12573132
>find a crudely drawn dick

[Anonymous No.12573148]

>>12573061
sweeet

[Anonymous No.12573154]

>>12573139
they seem to leave quite a mess when taken off

it's really wild just how much detail there is when you zoom in all the way. There's various writing next to many of the welds

[Anonymous No.12573161]

>>12573154
Elon is personally circling all the welds with a sharpie, judging each one individually

[Anonymous No.12573164]

>>12573117
>all those loose wires around the midsection
Holy shit.

[Anonymous No.12573168]

[Anonymous No.12573170]

can make out a few words here. Xray?

[Anonymous No.12573171]

[Anonymous No.12573174]

>>12573164
Nostromo interior was kino

[Anonymous No.12573175]

>>12573170
okay for now w/ nose cone

[Anonymous No.12573178]

>>12572502
>SSBN
>sinking ships

[Anonymous No.12573179]

>>12573164
/g/ would be proud

[Anonymous No.12573186]

>>12573179
these right angles are pretty cool

[Anonymous No.12573191]

>>12573171
if only...

[Anonymous No.12573192]

Anyone else find it crazy how those enormous solar arrays for the ISS fit in Dragon?

[Anonymous No.12573199]

>>12573191
pic is like 60 people (kerbals) in space at once

[Anonymous No.12573202]

>>12573186

>>12573192
solar arrays have huge area but comparatively low volume. You can cram in a ton of them so long as you have a good folding solution

[Anonymous No.12573203]

>>12573192
It's kind of insane that they can cram 2 of them into the trunk.

[Anonymous No.12573205]

>>12573192
the new ones are half the size though >>12571463

[Anonymous No.12573209]

>>12573199
>kissy docking
awww

[Anonymous No.12573211]

>>12573209

[Anonymous No.12573212]

>>12571572
Because political clout. Elon will be vindicated when he's named the most important person in human history when he lands on Mars.

[Anonymous No.12573216]

[Anonymous No.12573222]

>>12573170
>Xray
probably a note to check some of the welds with x-ray, also notice the range of numbers, probably trying varying welding stick widths

[Anonymous No.12573226]

>>12573216
that feel when

[Anonymous No.12573228]

>>12573216
>single stage tower-to-orbit

[Anonymous No.12573229]

>>12573192
Single Falcon9 can launch a football field size solar panels. Or solar panel arrays the size of entire ISS. SpaceX has been launching Starlink batches of 60 sats, each launch is ISS sized solar array. They have launched like 16 so far last year.

[Anonymous No.12573234]

>>12573222
>it is the will of Steins; Gate
kek, anti-weeb anons btfo

[Anonymous No.12573235]

>>12573117
>>12573132
>>12573139
>>12573154
>>12573168
>>12573170
>tfw the previous welder didn't comment his ring

[Anonymous No.12573241]

>>12573216
>mfw launch clamps are on the same stage as parachutes

[Anonymous No.12573242]

>>12573043
Can't believe people STILL fall for these /pol/ posts. Even worse it seems like the amount is increasing.

[Anonymous No.12573243]

>>12573222
God DAMMIT I wan to shitpost on a Starship during it's assembly.

[Anonymous No.12573248]

>>12573222
>Those trips
>That text
el psy congroo

[Anonymous No.12573251]

>>12573222
>the will of Steins;Gate
No fucking way lmao. These Texans are based

[Anonymous No.12573254]

>>12573043
>clockwise
>counter-clockwise
>in space
Discovering an absolute frame of reference would be 100% more exciting than discovering weird alien shit but no new physics.

[Anonymous No.12573255]

>>12573222
wtf the starship builders are even more based now

[Anonymous No.12573256]

>>12573222
Someone add it to the ring

[Anonymous No.12573257]

>>12573222
>UFO docking port test
What?

[Anonymous No.12573258]

Starlink is really heating up—a lot of countries are beginning to allows its use and its getting a lot of positive press. People in rural areas going from <1 mbps download (or none at all) to 50+ must be pretty happy and hopefully it continues. Tons of videos going up about starlink hooking up remote native american tribes with highspeed internet. I hope soon that the upper middle class liberals who deride starlink for "destroying the night sky" will be faced with the objective good that it is doing around the world.

[Anonymous No.12573260]

>>12573222
>no one noticed "bananas are green"

[Anonymous No.12573262]

>>12573258
I hope they don't notice until after the IPO.

[Anonymous No.12573282]

>>12573258
Russia wants to fine people for using Starlink. Couple hundreds USD for individuals and couple thousands USD for businesses. They really don't want SpaceX to succeed.

[Anonymous No.12573283]

>>12573234
>>12573251
What's the reference?

[Anonymous No.12573286]

>>12573283
It's one of those oriental japanese animays

[Anonymous No.12573288]

>>12573283
A show about a guy accidentally discovering a form of time travel and he starts fucking around with it. Fun happy shenanigans ensue, give it it a whirl you might like it.
Mayuri is annoying as fuck but don't let her ruin the show for you, in fact don't even worry about it.

[Anonymous No.12573290]

>>12573282
They don't give a fuck about starlink, it's all about people bypassing the gov't wiretapping

[Anonymous No.12573291]

>>12573286
I thought it would be a reference to something a little more obscure, but it is literally the title

[Anonymous No.12573296]

>>12573256
preferably the most recent one

[Anonymous No.12573298]

>>12573288
Not much into anime but might give it a try. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.12573299]

>>12573282
No shit, spacex has absolutely shit all over their space industry without even trying. Ivan is probably salty as fuck.

[Anonymous No.12573309]

>>12573299

[Anonymous No.12573310]

>>12573282
I'm glad because that means SpaceX has no intention of working with countries who restrict free access to the internet/spy on their citizens. I wonder how this will work with the US who also spies on their citizens.

[Anonymous No.12573311]

>>12573258
>Complain about destroying the night sky.
>Say they are asking to remove vital internet access from indigenous communities who should have there say represented.
>Starlink opponents are now racist.

[Anonymous No.12573312]

>>12573291
The quote is from the MC in the show, "it is the will of steins; gate", but that's also the name of the show, "Steins;Gate"
>>12573298
NP anon, hope you enjoy it if you do.

[Anonymous No.12573326]

>>12573311
Unironically, though. Anyone anti-starlink is holding long exposure astrophotography over the access to healthcare, education and economic freedom of rural populations around the globe, many of which are struggling indigenous populations. It's unconscionable to oppose it.

[Anonymous No.12573330]

>>12573282
Russia fucking with Musk created SpaceX.

[Anonymous No.12573335]

>>12573309
Poor guy, everybody else in Russia was selling everything that wasn’t nailed down to anybody regardless of how shady they were and the one Russian who actually had a shred of dignity decided not to sell an ICBM to some South African only to find out later that he was actually genuine and he had missed out on a lucrative retirement plan.

[Anonymous No.12573339]

>>12573335
Hey want to buy this car how about this house? want to buy me? look at my daughter she has nice eyes right? want to buy them?

[Anonymous No.12573341]

>>12573335
i think its a question of boomerism, wasnt there an apollo astronaut, like one of the big ones buzz aldrin maybe who talked shit about elon musk, and they ask elon about it on an interview and he starts crying?

[Anonymous No.12573345]

>>12573341
I think that was Buzz yeah, though he later recanted after seeing SpaceX do well for a few years I heard.

[Anonymous No.12573348]

>>12573341
Armstrong said commercial companies didn't have the ability to do anything important and it hurt Musk

[Anonymous No.12573356]

>>12573345
>though he later recanted after seeing SpaceX do well for a few years I heard.
i hope it was a good recant, that fucker almost doomed humanity.

>FUCK YOU YOU PIECE OF SHIT YOU CANT DO ANYHTING IM THE BIG ASTRONAUT MAN MY WORD IS IMPORTANT I DAMN YOU TO NEVER DO ANYTHING GOOD

*revolutionizes space like a boss*

>oh, actually i could have been wrong, oh well no biggie

[Anonymous No.12573359]

>>12573348
Well now he's dead and Musk is building spaceships. GG Neil

[Anonymous No.12573390]

>>12573359
Still sad. If Neil Armstrong said he didn't believe in me I'd probably cry too.

[Anonymous No.12573393]

>>12572630
Provide:
>full mass
>engine isp and thrust
>basic fuel tank arrangement

Without those it's not rocket but a UFO.

My immediate impression is that its garbage that won't even budge in Earth's gravity barring a large earthquake - you've made a building, not a vehicle.

My very generous estimations using expendable rocket payload fractions of about 4%, starting mass of rocket capable of lifting 1500 tons will be upward of 39000 tons. That will require about 600 Merlin 1D engines whose TWR is the greatest currently. Meaning thrust area of ~30m diameter circle. Added re-usability for the same payload will double that, maybe more.

TLDR: you are retarded

[Anonymous No.12573395]

>>12573341
Yeah those retards convinced themselves that only governments could genuinely partake in space travel seriously and that private companies were just scams or memes especially after OTRAG and this isn’t entirely their fault, we have to remember that an organisation like NASA had gotten so grossly inefficient and incomprehensibly slow after the moon landings, Von Braun and his men either dying or retiring that it had convinced everybody that space travel was always that slow, difficult and expensive.

When they saw some complete who company come along they probably assumed if the super powers of the US or the USSR had so much trouble with space travel then some new start up was dead in the water, but as Musk has shown it was the corrupt and inefficient bureaucracy of these nations that was actually holding us back.

[Anonymous No.12573438]

>>12573395
>it was the corrupt and inefficient bureaucracy of these nations that was actually holding us back.
i think what people has problems understanding is that for you need that goverment is much better for cutting edge research programs, but once its done its shit for mass implementation.

As a matter of fact, it was a clear demonstration that communism was superior, the only way america had to compete was to act as communistical as humanely possible. ARguibly the us state had more control on each person working on the apollo progam than soviet russia ever did.

People say, hurrr durr they went to the moon, go again.

nigga its two differen things, if you want to do the first moon landing ever without having ever done anything like it before its gonna be a huge R&D investment with small guarantees of success.
basically for that scenario you need a blank check

its like this.
imagine someone comes and says, hey how much money would it take for you to become a master violinist by the end of the year.
The answer is that you just dont know, but surely if they just want for a fixed per month number thats based on a specific result like any private company would do that would fail. Like, you cant tell them 100.000 per concert or 500.00 it just doesnt make sense.

Its more like, give me a blank check and no pressure, so i can spend all of my waking hours with the best violin teachers in the world and have 0 other stress, and maybe MAYBE ill be able to pull it off, but hey theres also a chance it will take me 2 years or maybe ill never achieve it, you literally have to trust me

and thats just it, retardedl ybig endeavours dont work good with a private company logic because you cant fail at any step of the way.

What the goverment does is closer to parenting.

[Anonymous No.12573447]

>The orbiter's aluminum structure could not withstand temperatures over 175 °C (347 °F) without structural failure
oh my fucking god this thing NEVER should have been carrying people. The Space Shuttle can't even handle temperatures of a KITCHEN OVEN. Yeah lets send something made of butter through 9000+F degree plasma with the only thing between 7 people and satan's spicy asshole being porous glass tiles you can crush with your bare hands held in place by fucking GLUE

I mad


Oh, and meanwhile 304 stainless steel is over here handling temps upwards of 1700F with 2,550F being its melting point. (https://www.marlinwire.com/blog/what-is-the-temperature-range-for-304-stainless-steel-vs-316-vs-330))

[Anonymous No.12573451]

>>12573341
Yes, god dam I hate old boomer space so much.

[Anonymous No.12573460]

>>12573326
With enough Starships, you'd be able to build a giant telescope on the moon anyways. Imagine the clearness of HST with a 30+ meter sectional mirror.

[Anonymous No.12573461]

>>12573447
Remember how automobiles were always these safe transportation vehicles designed with passenger's security in mind first and foremost, crumpling like paper on impact to absorb as much as possible before it gets to the humans inside? Me neither.

[Anonymous No.12573471]

>>12573447
>offsourcing your literal spaceship computer to an indian company that makes cell phone games
-sorry fatal error found, to continue show bob and vagene

[Anonymous No.12573474]

>>12573339
>selling everything that wasn’t nailed down

This is pretty much Russia in the Yelstin years. NASA/the US Gov't literally paid Roscosmos to keep existing so their rocket guys wouldn't start building ICBMs for anyone with money to spare.

[Anonymous No.12573488]

>>12573447
>304 stainless steel
yeah that makes sense if your doing a huge ass rocket like starship. The space shuttle is smaller in scope in comparison . And yes of course when you have to optimize for mass doesnt have to withstand things it doesnt have to withstand.
Did you know that an interior handle from an aircraft could not last 5 seconds in front of the aircrafts turbien? what a shock

the space shuttle was a piece of shit for very specific reasons, but it was made by alpha chad engineers each of whomstsd outachieve everyone here (not me of course) put together , it makes me cringey so badley when new kids just try to shit on teh shuttle without knowing how, which means they dont understand why they are doing it.
>the shuttle had engines, what fuckers engines are not good

this is how you soudn tretarsds

[Anonymous No.12573503]

>>12573447
Based and Shuttle-pilled.

[Anonymous No.12573516]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PapBjpzRhnA

[Anonymous No.12573517]

>>12573516
this is just gonna be HOLD hell

[Anonymous No.12573524]

>>12573447
I didn't know it was THAT bad, why couldn't we get steel shuttle?

[Anonymous No.12573531]

>>12573524
because it was a shitshow of extreme specifications done by people who had no interest in seeing the project succeed and as such was operating within the extreme limits of what that design could have achieved so there was no margin for error, or basically, they were well within the margin of error and couldnt risk it more,

[Anonymous No.12573539]

>>12573296
here ya go, also updated with the strongest starship, sn9

[Anonymous No.12573551]

>>12573524
this was brought up last thread. A heavier shuttle wouldn't be able to glide. >>12570681
>>12570691 . The space plane concept itself demands low mass, thus structural and temperature weaknesses are built into the package.

[Anonymous No.12573558]

>>12573348
>>12573451
Yeah I think if Neil fucking Armstrong talked shit about me on national TV my remaining shreds of will to live would just evaporate. That's like Beethoven telling you your music is shit.

[Anonymous No.12573566]

>>12573539
based

[Anonymous No.12573569]

>>12573524
Just build it out of titanium and make Lockheed do it. They were already familiar with building shit out of titanium on the SR-71. Melting point of 1650 C compared to 582 C for aluminum. Its density may be greater but its also stronger so you could reduce the thickness of parts. Only problem is that its super expensive so maybe they could only build 3 or 4 shuttles instead of 5.

[Anonymous No.12573582]

>>12573524
Desire to fulfill specifications and zero will or capability to redesign things from the ground up as problems arise. For example, after the SSME was confirmed to underperform they were forced to trim down the orbiter's already quite trimmed structural mass instead of saying "Well, fuck it, a ton or two less payload we'll never use!"
The entire project was plagued with this and worse it was later canonized into bureaucratic dogma where no upgrades even technologically available ones, were implemented over the life of the vehicle.
What was a subpar design and build in the 70's continued to be used with all its flaws and problems thirty years later because upgrades had to be funded after congressional vote.

[Anonymous No.12573587]

>>12573582
jesus fucking christ, no wonder Elon took things into his own hands

[Anonymous No.12573588]

>>12573341
I keep meaning to watch that whole hearing. I remember when it aired but only got clips. I've heard since that the astronauts (at least later claimed they) were misled and tricked into making those comments and were largely proSpaceX privately.

I think the gist of the whole matter is they were NASA old boys and were campaigning to continue NASA funding. Making a stand that was pro NASA more than anti Private Space.

It reeked of selfish aggrandising. Alot of these old Wright Stuff boys are more than happy that the golden era ended with them and they got to keep their records and exclusive reputations.

[Anonymous No.12573596]

A Starship will be able to hold something like multiple hundreds of Starlink satellites, right? And those will go into many different orbital planes, since each plane only has so many satellites in it. But plane changes cost lots of delta-V, so they'll only want to launch satellites in nearby planes together, which could mean under-utilising Starship - maybe massively under-utilising it, because it's so frickin' huge.

This gets worse once Starlink gets past the initial phase and SpaceX only need to launch replacements for ones that break or reach EoL. A Starlink-only Starship launch after initial constellation completion would probably either be mostly empty or mostly propellant to get the satellites to where they need to be. There's a trade-off between contellation maintenance (and hence service quality) and efficiently using Starship.

I wonder if SpaceX will wind up offering really, really cheap it-launches-when-we-feel-like-it smallsat rideshares just to utilise Starship better. If they do, that'll have some really interesting effects! Perhaps they'll keep a fleet of smaller rockets for these sorts of little patch-up jobs. Or maybe they'll even contract out some Starlink launches to some other provider with a smaller-scale rocket that's better-suited to carrying a handful of smallsats to orbit.

[Anonymous No.12573598]

>>12573558
Elon's the kinda guy who gets shit talked by Neil Armstrong and responds by building a fully reusable rocket larger than the Saturn V

von Braun would be proud

[Anonymous No.12573604]

>>12572630
>>12572633
still retarded.
the upper stage will need to be tugged back to land for refurbishment/new parachutes and the first stage will need to be tugged back to land so they can clean and repair those monstrous RP-1 engines. refueling this piece of shit will be a logistical nightmare, not to mention that it would sink like a rock when fully fuelled.
I already pointed this out last time, a better idea would be a supersized methalox BAC Mustard (pic related), much cheaper with nowhere near as many logistical hurdles.

[Anonymous No.12573608]

>>12572311
In a typical ringworld the ring spins and doesn't collapse as a result. In fact, ringworlds usually spin much faster than orbital velocity in order to generate centripetal acceleration and thus artificial G on the inside surface of the ring. This requires magic materials though.

[Anonymous No.12573623]

>>12573596
Before they reach saturation there will be quite a bit of launches. At the point where starships need to service numerous elliptic orbits they will have tankers up and running for such peculiar missions. Still, I think, it might prove cheaper to just launch the equivalent number of starships directly into the orbits even if well under capacity - see how most rockets even expendable ones launch payloads well under their maximum.

[Anonymous No.12573632]

>>12572630
>>12572633
This vehicle would not be able to put 1500 tons into LEO and it wouldn't be reusable.
Just do 24.5 meter wide Starship.

[Anonymous No.12573635]

>>12573596
>A Starship will be able to hold something like multiple hundreds of Starlink satellites, right?
Gwynne is on record saying 400 per a launch

[Anonymous No.12573638]

>>12573551
When considered relative to their proportions the Shuttle is a bigger dry mass hog than Starship, largely because the Shuttle is designed as a plane while Starship is a rocket with wings on it and thus the differing construction paradigms those entail. If you designed the Shuttle properly you could make it out of steel. If you designed the Shuttle properly it wouldn't exist though.

[Anonymous No.12573641]

>>12573582
>after the SSME was confirmed to underperform
would you happen to know the original target specs? I'm guessing that they were hoping for more thrust?

[Anonymous No.12573644]

>>12573635
This is Elon, it will be 420

[Anonymous No.12573648]

>>12572651
>>12572654
>what is perspective due to angle of viewing
Starship was basically horizontal the entire way down.

[Anonymous No.12573651]

>>12572328
it's giant ear-flaps, because there's no air in space the space station doesn't cool down so they need big elephant style ear-flaps to cool them down

[Anonymous No.12573667]

>>12572782
>that unnecessary pipe section that only exists because they want the turbopump to be flopped over to the side of the engine rather than having it directly above the main combustion chamber
dumb

[Anonymous No.12573672]

>>12573635
Thanks, anon. I think I heard it at the time and then forgot about it.

>>12573623
Sounds very plausible. Starship might wind up being the most economical option for almost all orbital missions, even 95% empty. I'd still expect SpaceX to offer cheap rideshares on Starlink launches just because they're already doing most of the work to get to orbit and the marginal cost of tossing on a few more smallsats is really low. If I was doing anything that could benefit from being in orbit, I would be looking really hard at cheap-and-cheerful smallsats for launch in ~5 years' time.

[Anonymous No.12573673]

>>12573596
You build “reserve” star links with massive fuel reserves to move to whatever orbit needs a replacement
Or just have extra satellites from the get go that overlap
And they will all be replaced in a couple years anyways

[Anonymous No.12573681]

>>12572970
yeah, SpaceX are planning to use Starlink and Starship to set up the T1 internet backbone to Mars with giant fuckoff huge laser beam telescopes in orbit

[Anonymous No.12573684]

>>12573681
You jest but I could totally see Starlink becoming Planetlink within 30 years.

[Anonymous No.12573690]

apparently today the SF delay is because of wind. Not because SN9 can't fire in wind but because the workers can't do work in their booms when the wind is too high.

[Anonymous No.12573691]

>>12573684
Does he jest? I'm pretty sure Elon has talked about literally that plan for Mars internet before. Starlink around both planets with a laser connection between them.

[Anonymous No.12573692]

>>12573684
>after setting up their constellation over Earth SpaceX decides fuck it why stop there and does Moonlink and Marslink

[Anonymous No.12573693]

>>12573186
it's to cope with the thermal contraction of the vehicle as it's chilled and filled

[Anonymous No.12573695]

>>12573684
I don't think he's joking anon.

[Anonymous No.12573696]

>>12573558
Don’t be silly, Armstrong is just the equivalent of a monkey being sent into space, his job (which was basically floating on his ass for a couple days and putting on a suit properly) could have been accomplished by almost anyone.

If someone like Von Braun said your rocket was trash and your company was a scam then that actually would have hurt, but somehow I doubt he would ever say such a thing if he was alive given how little NASA has accomplished since he left and how much spacex has accomplished in such a short amount of time with little resources.

[Anonymous No.12573697]

>>12573641
No, it was ISP and by very little at that, but since the specs were set in stone they had no way out other than cutting mass to regain the lost performance. I don't remember whether I read it though, probably buried somewhere in NSF. I do remember a book about the shuttle being quoted around but it might be related to something else. Note this is from memory and likely from before elon started landing the falcons when I had interest in the shuttles.

There was plenty of other fun trivia, like how the initial all-american SSME design was a disaster until the old nazi team was called in again to patch it up.

[Anonymous No.12573699]

>>12573641
Not him but SSME’s ended up costing much more money than hoped for, so instead of clustering like 7 of them at the base of the shuttle, NASA was forced to use a pair of massive SRBs

A real horror story is the RS-68. It was designed to be an expendable version of the SSME, but ended up weighing 2X as much and having much less isp (409 vs 452 seconds) than the SSME. It is also gigantic and costs $25 Million to build versus SSME’s $50-60 million. Note that SSMEs costed $60 Million to build BEFORE Aerojet cucked NASA in 2018. Now they’re $146 Million

[Anonymous No.12573701]

>>12573598
Will forever mog old space.

[Anonymous No.12573703]

>>12573690
Things that have prevented SN9 fires: boomers on the beachers, boomers in the bushes, boomers in boats, and now boomers unable to boom

[Anonymous No.12573712]

>>12572630
>>12572633
No matter how many times you spam this, it will still continue to be just as infeasible as the first time you posted it if you refuse to make alterations from your originally, flawed, non-functional idea.

[Anonymous No.12573715]

>>12573690
At least the issues aren’t with SN9. I’d rather have them be safe than lose a worker of blow of the vehicle

[Anonymous No.12573716]

>>12573690
Which is why you build scaffolding and not cranes

[Anonymous No.12573718]

>>12573699
I wonder how much better the RS68 would be if it just had regenerative cooling instead of an overweight ablative engine bell. Since this is AR though I imagine that would add 10m to the purchase.

[Anonymous No.12573722]

>https://twitter.com/launcher
WHY IS THERE ANOTHER SMALLSAT LAUNCHER?

[Anonymous No.12573725]

>>12573716
>picks ur scaffolding up
heh, blows don' it?
t. 50+mph winds

[Anonymous No.12573726]

>>12573596
you can use the Earth's equatorial bulge to nudge satellites at different altitudes into different planes, this is called precession
this takes time, however, about a year to go all the way around (because SpaceX had a satellite go almost all the way around already)
SpaceX are currently using this to precess each launch into three different nearby orbital planes over the course of a couple of months without expending propellant

[Anonymous No.12573731]

>>12573722
Embezzling Air/Space Force grants

[Anonymous No.12573736]

>>12573722
I still don't really know what smallsat is.

[Anonymous No.12573739]

>>12573722
>launcher
oh yeah these guys. I remember them because they claim to be making a pretty nutty keralox engine. https://youtu.be/oc_pSTV_2aM

[Anonymous No.12573740]

>>12573736
cubesats

[Anonymous No.12573742]

>>12573716
>Move vehicle to pad
>assemble scaffolding to do pre-test checks and adjustments
>take down scaffolding before test
>assemble scaffolding after test so you can do the work for the next test
>repeat for every test
Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.12573749]

>>12573718
RS68 upgrades to regen were indeed planned, but said upgrades were slated to cost like $2 Billion and take 5 or more years. NASA realized that using SSME’s would be cheaper to develop and build than the RS68 Regen, so they killed the idea.

[Anonymous No.12573752]

>>12573684
I am not joking

[Anonymous No.12573757]

>>12573749
>nice engine but can you add a pipe?
>that'll be 2 bajillions
Shekeldyne...

[Anonymous No.12573758]

>>12573749
>but said upgrades were slated to cost like $2 Billion and take 5 or more years

[Anonymous No.12573761]

>>12573558
kek, that analogy made me laugh
>>12573598
I really wish Von Braun was still alive to see the maiden voyage of starship. Perhaps he is watching down from heaven or something, I hope

[Anonymous No.12573764]

>>12573539
I just gotta get this clear: when I made the virgin vs chad meme on this version, the virgin wasn't the squid girl, it was those waifufags who insisted that they project their mommy fetish on Starship for some reason. Squid girl at least kinda looks like the ship and at least has a functioning punchline, like how Meta CHADler fucking MOGS other DBZ jobbers in a similar way to how SS will mog SLS and New Glenn. Also because he's made of shiny metal.
>>12573596
Maybe Starship could release the starlink swarms in waves, like periodically deploying a stack and waiting until that stack has dissipated long enough to send out the next stack.

[Anonymous No.12573768]

>>12573715
Given some of the mishaps they've had, I'm glad there haven't been any major accidents yet. SN9 tipping could've been really, really bad.

[Anonymous No.12573769]

>>12573722
Could you pick a more soulless company name and logo?

[Anonymous No.12573771]

>>12573764
retard

[Anonymous No.12573774]

>>12573764
based
>>12573769
blue origin

[Anonymous No.12573780]

>>12573722
Why did they choose the C is their logo? Laun Her? Laun¢her?

[Anonymous No.12573781]

>>12573722
Launcher seems like people who really like rocketry but don't quite know what they're up against. The entire company is only like eight people last I heard, and the CEO is a massive Elon fanboy.
Also, I'm digging through their youtube and found this, which is kinda amusing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOZQGQaA3Hw

[Anonymous No.12573782]

>>12573749
why does the RS-68A have so much more thrust than the RS-25 in spite of being the same size? 705,000lbf vs 418,000lbf is a near 70% increase- not trivial. Granted the RS-68A is over twice the weight as the RS-25 but I wonder how much of that is the bell.

[Anonymous No.12573784]

>>12573774
>blue origin
Lmao

[Anonymous No.12573785]

I’ve been on a Starship 3D Animation Binge and goddamn am I excited.

13 meter wide single launch station
>https://youtu.be/8iwQERHgqco

Starship interior speculation
>https://youtu.be/aoaBb9trRA0

Lunar Starship Interior
> https://youtu.be/DERc_LOzmkc

[Anonymous No.12573786]

>>12573451
Pretty sure space light is already accessible to anyone.

[Anonymous No.12573790]

>>12573761
>Von Braun
>Heaven
Come on, he's witnessing from Valhalla!

[Anonymous No.12573793]

>>12573785
Yeah I'm fucking fixin' for some official concept art. I know, without a doubt, that Elon has some concept pictures on his phone or laptop saved somewhere. I bet the Tesla designers have already done it and sent it to him a long time ago

[Anonymous No.12573794]

>>12573782
bigger pumps
bigger throat
the important size you need to look at in a rocket engine is the internal diameter of the combustion chamber throat, that's the only size that actually matters

[Anonymous No.12573797]

>>12573786
Yeah. You can go to space for $250K today. Imagine where we’ll be in 10 years.

[Anonymous No.12573799]

>>12573781
Couldn’t have just gotten a job with Spacex? Seems like it would make more sense if he was a Elon fan boy or maybe this company is just his way of proving himself so that spacex absorbs it.

[Anonymous No.12573803]

>>12573722
>starship will corner the market for rideshare smallsats
>rocket lab is cornering the market for specific orbit smallsats
>plus there are like 5 other companies all at various stages of trying to get smallsat launchers of the ground
How could anyone look at whats happening and decide that now is a good time to get into the smallsat launch game?

[Anonymous No.12573811]

>>12573803
I would argue that right now is the best time to start up a smallsat company. It's growing harder by the day though; you basically have two years (give or take) to get your feet off the ground before starship stars flying. And even then, you need to get to at LEAST rocketlab standards if you want to survive in the upcoming age of spaceflight

[Anonymous No.12573817]

>>12573793
I’m excited over the fact that Starship is a true spaceship kinda like the Shuttle. Love or hate the shuttle, it really was amazing and one of a kind. Anyhow Starship has a dedicated airlock section, which is sexy as fuck seeing as even Crew Dragon requires depressurization if you want to go outside (but you can’t lol).

[Anonymous No.12573824]

>>12573817
>the shittle was a REAL spaceship
fuck off, it didn't have real onboard propulsion

[Anonymous No.12573830]

>>12573824
Yes it did wtf. The shuttle had a flight deck, a dedicated airlock, and an unpressurized cargo section.

[Anonymous No.12573833]

>>12573824
The SSME's were dead weight, but it certainly had an orbital maneuvering system. They just slapped two Apollo CSM engines on the back lmao

[Anonymous No.12573834]

>>12573803
>>12573811
I on the other hand genuinely believe there's going to be a massive truncation in the near future. Non-state actor smallsat launchers are an overpopulated group with a dwindling niche. Rideshare prices can outcompete them already, Starship rideshare will drop it through the floor and although I don't really consider the gaggle of F9/FH competitors that heavily they will contribute to that atmosphere. Sat busses to close the capability gap between rideshare and dedicated launchers and are going to be the next battleground.

[Anonymous No.12573837]

>>12573785
https://twitter.com/kimitalvitie/status/1349077782647730177

[Anonymous No.12573838]

>>12573742
If the crane can move the StarShip then it can move the 200 feet tall segments of scaffolding
Just have to clamp it to the other segments going around the ship

[Anonymous No.12573839]

>>12573830
>>12573833
it had about 300 m/s of onboard propulsion shared with the fucking RCS, that's pathetic
that's like calling the shitty spaceboat that one autist is spamming a "design", or a rusted hulk sitting on some cinderblocks a vehicle (RIP Buran)

[Anonymous No.12573841]

>>12573785
>Lunar Starship Interior
literally tintin

[Anonymous No.12573842]

>>12573785
These visualisations of Starship docked to the ISS.

What's stopping the Starship lighting up and dragging it out to a deep space orbit to preserve it?

[Anonymous No.12573843]

>>12573839
300 m/s? What the fuck, why was the shuttle even built in the first place

[Anonymous No.12573844]

>>12573799
I guarrentee you he makes 10 times as much getting government grants than any salary he would get at spacex

[Anonymous No.12573845]

>>12573838
You've just gone back to the original method of using cranes but with extra steps

[Anonymous No.12573847]

>>12573842
ISS wouldn't survive that

[Anonymous No.12573849]

>>12573797
>Yeah. You can go to space for $250K today. Imagine where we’ll be in 10 years.
what a retarded way of thinking, there are laws of physics.

>Huurrr duuuur, we have cars that can go at 200mph now, surely in 50 years they will be able to go at 2000 mph
retard

[Anonymous No.12573850]

>>12573843
>why was the shuttle even built in the first place
It was built for everything and nothing at all

[Anonymous No.12573860]

>>12573843

[Anonymous No.12573863]

>>12573849
There is a Tesla roadster going considerably faster than 2000mph as we speak.

[Anonymous No.12573867]

>>12573849
Brainlet take. It’s not a question of physics but of what vehicles are flying in ten years. Right now there’s New Shepard and SpaceShipTwo which charge $250K per person. In ten years Starship will be flying. Starship can carry 100 people into orbit while costing under $10 Million or so. To match New Shepard’s ticket cost while carrying 100 people, Starship would have a per launch cost of $25 Million.

[Anonymous No.12573873]

>>12573830
yeah, this baby's got a fully functional trunk, driver's seat, radio, windshield and wipers, headlights, you name we've got it
what do you mean, wheels, why would we need wheels, we're never leaving the driveway

[Anonymous No.12573880]

make a new one you subhumans

[Anonymous No.12573884]

>>12573880
Sir you must lurk for at least three months before posting here.

[Anonymous No.12573885]

>>12573849
Based. Fuck futurists

[Anonymous No.12573887]

>>12573844
But the market is already getting crowded, what does he offer that others do not?

[Anonymous No.12573889]

>>12573885
Dilate seethe cope etc

[Anonymous No.12573890]

>>12573880
durrrr bump limit means new thread
Sliding to page 10 keeps the retards out

[Anonymous No.12573891]

>>12573863
Based

[Anonymous No.12573894]

>Starship SN9 static fire test tomorrow January 11 between the hours of 8 a.m. and 5 p.m.
>16:04
Why static fire is still not scrubbed?

[Anonymous No.12573901]

>>12573885
Based. Fuck SpaceX. Boeing and SLS is the only way to space. Space is hard. Space should never be accessible for anybody other then elite government picked scientists. I'll say it again. FUCK SCAMX

[Anonymous No.12573907]

>>12573860
does the 29 tons include the manned reusable payload fairing

[Anonymous No.12573910]

Don't mind me, just dropping some redpills

>The most significant improvement, beyond even the improvements of 2-3Xtimes reviewed to here, was in the development of the Falcon 9 launch system, with an estimated improvement at least 4X to perhaps 10X times over traditional cost-plus contracting estimates, about $400 million vs. $4 billion

Source: https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/20170008895

[Anonymous No.12573912]

>>12573907
yes

[Anonymous No.12573914]

>>12573884
>>12573890
i'm not used to /sci/, i usually post on /lit/

[Anonymous No.12573916]

>>12573867
>Brainlet take. It’s not a question of physics but of what vehicles are flying in ten years
sure sure, its not a question of physics just of expecting arbitrary advancement like if this were a cartoon just because time passes

First human had one penis, surely in a billion years each human willh ave a billion peniss, surely thats tyhe logical conclusion fof extrapolational adcvancvemetn

[Anonymous No.12573919]

>>12573910
Oof

[Anonymous No.12573924]

>>12573916
>reddit spacing
>can't string together an intelligible point
You can't drag yourself away huh?

[Anonymous No.12573930]

>>12573901
Mars will be a chad only planet.

[Anonymous No.12573934]

>>12541462
>>12541462
>>12541462
>>12541462
NEW

[Anonymous No.12573935]

>>12573910
1) lol at the ISS costing as much to mantain as to outright build from scratch, a fucking joke

2) when you know everything is 100% corruption adn dont give a shit anymore and you start asking for 6 billion dollars per years literally " for science!", im sure the senators replied with "of course, i fucking love science"

[Anonymous No.12573938]

>>12573919
And the NASA boys pocket their 5 %

SpaceX made a lotta money under bidding on these commercial crew/.cargo missions

[Anonymous No.12573940]

>>12573934
how the fuck did you screw up this badly?

[Anonymous No.12573943]

>>12573934
What do you think you're doing, young man? Sit down.

[Anonymous No.12573944]

>>12573934
>page 6

[Anonymous No.12573945]

>>12573803
Off the ground*

[Anonymous No.12573951]

>>12573934
That's
that's not new anon
that's old

[Anonymous No.12573958]

>>12573934
based

[Anonymous No.12573965]

>>12573934
you deserve that the next girl who you try to romance not only rejects you as usual but also laughs hard about it and actively tells everyone you know about how pathetic you were while attempting it

[Anonymous No.12573966]

>>12573934
based (you) harvester

[Anonymous No.12573973]

>>12573894
they've pulled off last-minute extensions before

[Anonymous No.12573980]

53 missions scheduled to from Florida this year. Obviously many of them probably wont launch but it's a big number. 31 launches happened in Florida last year.
https://spacenews.com/45th-space-wing-forecasts-more-than-50-launches-in-2021/

[Anonymous No.12573984]

>>12573973
>extensions
source of info?

[Anonymous No.12573989]

What does everyone think of “The Angry Astronaut”? He seems pretty wary of the idea of sending a full-size Starship to mars.

[Anonymous No.12573992]

>>12573934
Why are you abusing my thread's corpse? Stop!

[Anonymous No.12574000]

>>12573989
ministarship is a zubrin meme, Angry Astronaut is a shitposting subhuman

[Anonymous No.12574005]

>>12573989
>The Angry Astronaut
like all youtubers, he's just a person whos clinically afraid of getting a job trying to see the combination of words and actions that give him money, no matter what it is, no matter how inmoral. He's just really shitty at hiding the fact that he's doing it for money

[Anonymous No.12574006]

>>12573771
ey fuk u i was giving you credit
>>12573785
That single launch space station looks so fucking cool, you could probably fit a few experimental gravity rings in it or something.

[Anonymous No.12574010]

>>12573764
the recent version is just two interpretations of anthro-starship from this general, standing together as a duo, bros or something. better than your aggressive meme written in tiny grey text on grey that takes up a ton of ring space anyways

[Anonymous No.12574019]

Window extended. It's happening bois

[Anonymous No.12574022]

>>12574019
link of site?

[Anonymous No.12574027]

>>12574006
With a diameter of 12m and an RPM of four you could get .2g or a little more than Lunar standard. You wouldn't even need a ring, you could spin the ship up with RCS. Don't know if the solar panels would take kindly to that or not, I'm sure though you could work out a regime of slow acceleration, maybe increasing the rotations as little as +1RPM per hour for a four hour spinup or spin-down cycle.

[Anonymous No.12574030]

>3 Starships are either ready to fly or a few weeks from being there
>5 starships are currently under construction with most of their parts already having been fabricated
>Superheavy BN1 is ready to be stacked and is around halfway complete
We’re gonna make it’s bro’s

[Anonymous No.12574032]

>>12573934
Nice one kid

[Anonymous No.12574039]

>>12573539
The SN8 gremlin returns to claim another victim

[Anonymous No.12574040]

>>12574030
>the entire decades long shuttle program will be outdone in a manner of weeks

[Anonymous No.12574043]

>>12573989
Started out liking him, but him constantly getting basic facts wrong made me realize he's completely full of shit.

[Anonymous No.12574044]

>>12574030
We will escape this bitch of an Earth, WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT!

[Anonymous No.12574045]

>>12574022
https://www.cameroncounty.us/spacex/

[Anonymous No.12574046]

>>12573785
waaaait, that thing uses a second stage??? like a DIPSOABLE SECOND STAGE??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[Anonymous No.12574055]

>>12574046
Starship tank sections cost around $10 Million to build. Raptors cost around $2 Million to build. It’s very cheap, trust me.

[Anonymous No.12574056]

>>12574045
https://www.cameroncounty.us/order-closing-boca-chica-beach-and-state-hwy-4-january-12-2021-from-230-p-m-to-8-p-m-in-place-of-8-a-m-to-5-p-m/
omg why it's spanish

[Anonymous No.12574067]

>>12574056
>he doesnt know

[Anonymous No.12574068]

>>12574046
yeah, but stainless steel and even raptors are dirt cheap so whatever. Elon himself has proposed situational expendable 2nd stages

[Anonymous No.12574070]

>>12574055
DIPSOABLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.12574079]

>>12574056
Probably more people living there speak spanish than english. Americans aren't nearly as autistic about forcing everyone to speak English as the French or Germans or Spanish are about their respective languages. I guess mostly because the export of the English language greatly outpaced any populations that are speaking less of it.

[Anonymous No.12574082]

>>12574068
>starship is cheap because it will be reusable
>were not gonna reuse it, its too cheap

yeah sure, i can tell when im being lied to, im gonna vote for more civil rights and less pace theftery

[Anonymous No.12574090]

>>12574079
Basically because most of the us belongs to spanish speaking peoples and they are basically invaders, but americans are too used to this for them to ever consider changing

[Anonymous No.12574099]

>>12573989
He's pretty cool. He's not really that great facts-wise, but he's a relatable man and has actually interviewed key people like a girl working at Dynetics and NASA Exobiologist Richard Hoover. He's also not a retarded ORANGE MAN BAD leftie like Scott Manley or Estronaut. He's also not a retard with a wetawded speech impediment and a scat fetish *ahem* isaac awthor *coof*

[Anonymous No.12574105]

>>12574082
They can be reused as depots, enabling subsequent ones to be normally reusable.

[Anonymous No.12574127]

>>12573989
I'd fuck a mini Starship.

[Anonymous No.12574129]

>>12573989
Would a mini starship even have enough surface area to slow down adequately on Mars? Part of the reason it works is because it's big.

[Anonymous No.12574130]

Alright bro’s I’ve done some digging and it turns out they there are four SLS core stages that have either been completed, or are being built.

>SLS CORE-1 was never actually completed. The two tanks were built individually and to flight standards, but were not mated and were instead used as pressure tests

>SLS CORE-2 is the first completed SLS core. The two tanks were mated and engines were installed. It is slated to fly on Artemis 1 later this year

>SLS CORE-3 is currently under construction. The two tanks have been completed but have yet to be mated. It is slated to fly on Artemis 2 in 2023

>SLS CORE-4 is in the process of finishing up the individual tanks. It is slated to fly on Artemis 3 in 2024.

There have been a few SLS test articles over the years, including at least two “dummy” SLS cores, with neither actually being flightworthy.

Lastly, Superheavy BN1 is currently being stacked. It is about where SLS CORE-4 is at the moment, but expect it to fly before SLS CORE-2 does.

[Anonymous No.12574132]

>>12574068
>expendable starships are an option
What is the purpose of SLS again? It has ZERO technical advantages at this point. It's like using a steam train when mag-lev exists.

[Anonymous No.12574138]

Th-thanks

[Anonymous No.12574140]

>>12574130
>soda in the rocket room
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNO4Wti-NTM

[Anonymous No.12574147]

Pad's clearing. It might actually be happening.

[Anonymous No.12574149]

>>12574138

[Anonymous No.12574151]

>>12574056

[Anonymous No.12574154]

>>12574140
Holy shit, this takes me back

[Anonymous No.12574156]

>>12574130
interdasting. Yeah apparently they have quite the inventory just sitting there doing nothing

[Anonymous No.12574158]

>>12574138
imagine seeing your boss tweet this out

[Anonymous No.12574161]

>>12573885
Absolutely this ^^^

[Anonymous No.12574163]

>>12574151
why is one of the colors 50-95, thats a retardedly huge range, make it more precise. 50% is a place where half the people you know speaks spanish. 95% is a place wehre you can live your whole life and never meet someone who speaks english
fuck statistics fuckers they fuck up so abd

[Anonymous No.12574174]

>>12574138
Me talking to SN9

[Anonymous No.12574175]

>>12574099
>scat fetish
excuse me what?

[Anonymous No.12574180]

>>12574019
so winds down now?

[Anonymous No.12574182]

>>12574138
whenever i see anime girls i get a boner

[Anonymous No.12574187]

>>12574099
i cant believe you guys are running with the scat fetish meme, it's awful and hilarious

[Anonymous No.12574190]

>>12574175
That anon said the same thing about Isaac Arthur a few weeks back, he's just trying to be funny and/or force a meme.

[Anonymous No.12574193]

>>12574130
Look at them... everyone in that picture is a boomer.

[Anonymous No.12574204]

Is there a minimum size for a steel rocket hull? Could you do a reusable smallsat booster out of industrial grade steel?

[Anonymous No.12574213]

fellow /sfg/ bros, how tf do you convert a normie into a spaceflight faggot? seriously asking, none of my friends give a flying fuck about it, and I've tried my best.

[Anonymous No.12574216]

>>12574213
Beat them up

[Anonymous No.12574223]

>>12574138
th...thanks elon

[Anonymous No.12574224]

>>12574213
just tell him there are horny alien bitches on mars

[Anonymous No.12574226]

>>12574213
have their dad show them the latest Spirit photos from mars as a kid every night before bed.
Worked for me

[Anonymous No.12574255]

>>12574213
if the falcon heavy test flight doesn't get them hype then nothing will

[Anonymous No.12574262]

2021...I am...forgotten

[Anonymous No.12574269]

>>12574213
They're probably beyond hope

[Anonymous No.12574273]

>>12571512
Shame, I thought it was on purpose and laughed.

[Anonymous No.12574276]

>>12574105
>depos
Im calling the ULA sniper

[Anonymous No.12574293]

>>12574213
Almost everybody I try to talk to about space just don't care or unironically goes
>money better spent on gibs
>Elon = rich = bad
I notice older people tend to be more interested though

[Anonymous No.12574296]

>>12572245
>Amazon™ Space Station coming near your Pandora in 2084

[Anonymous No.12574298]

>>12571478
>In 1971 when Apollo 15 passed 110 kilometers above the Aristarchus plateau, a significant rise in alpha particles was detected. These particles are believed to be caused by the decay of radon-222, a radioactive gas with a half-life of only 3.8 days. The Lunar Prospector mission later confirmed radon-222 emissions from this crater.
3spoopy5me

[Anonymous No.12574304]

So is this static fire definitely happening today?

It's nearly midnight where I am (UK) and I don't want to stay up for nothing

[Anonymous No.12574307]

>>12574304
They're definitely doing some kind of test, the tank farm is venting

[Anonymous No.12574311]

>>12574216
then they wouldn't be my frens anymore bro
>>12574224
I wish there were horny alien grils on mars
>>12574226
not a murican, former USSR, dads know jack shit about spaceflight
>>12574255
showed them the recap, they were like "wow, cool man", aaaaaaaand end of the story
>>12574293
luckily people here dont think that "rich person = bad"

[Anonymous No.12574312]

>>12573739
If the engine is actually good, maybe they'll get more business selling engines for people who just have to run their own rocket.
>>12573797
>You can go to space for $250K today.
You can pay $250K today, but it won't get you to "space" any time soon. And then you have to get at the end of a line, one of which is almost ten years old.
>>12573934
Best early thread ever.
>not OP
>therefore not a faggot
>>12574138
Does this have anything to do with Grimes getting the 'rona? I heard about that on the radio this morning, and nothing here all day.
>>12574298
might be a source of nuclear ores

[Anonymous No.12574316]

>>12574298
Does this mean theres a lot of fissile material in that crater which could be used for a nuclear power plant?

[Anonymous No.12574321]

STATIC FIRE IMMINENT

[Anonymous No.12574322]

>>12574304
It does look like they're moving towards a static fire, but their window is still another two hours. If you've got work tomorrow, get some sleep bro. Lots of good stuff planned for the rest of the week, you're not missing too much.

[Anonymous No.12574325]

>>12574311
>wow, cool man
Beyond hope. This is a strong indicator of NPC status.

[Anonymous No.12574327]

>>12574304
Static fires aren't even that interesting
>hours of waiting for 2 seconds of BRAAP because if they burn any longer they'll burn through the test pad

[Anonymous No.12574330]

>>12574327
this its kinda lame desu

[Anonymous No.12574338]

>>12574307
Yeah it does look like stuff is happening

>>12574322
>>12574327
Good points, probably not worth staying up

[Anonymous No.12574352]

>>12574190
He is a big fan of shitty ideas so it’s not an incomprehensible possibility.

[Anonymous No.12574355]

Starhopper looks so retarded lmao

[Anonymous No.12574356]

>>12574311
>luckily people here dont think that "rich person = bad"
Burgers haven't lived under commies so the can't tell the signs, this shit is literally what leads to commies.

[Anonymous No.12574361]

based Marty

[Anonymous No.12574363]

>>12574355
Don't you be shit-talking Hoppy.

[Anonymous No.12574364]

>>12574355
Congratulations, now you've made it mad.

[Anonymous No.12574365]

>>12574363
>>12574364
HE JUST DISPATCHED A KAMIKAZE STARSHIP OVER MY HOUSE

[Anonymous No.12574368]

>>12574355

[Anonymous No.12574374]

>>12572453
ISS currently has 7 people on board. If they add one black astronaut, the rate of violent crimes on ISS increases by 118%.

[Anonymous No.12574377]

>>12574363
>>12574364
Hoppymind

[Anonymous No.12574382]

>>12574374
Space crimes are statistically more likely to be committed by white lesbian boomers

[Anonymous No.12574384]

>>12574190
i'm pretty sure you're just an isaac arthur stan

[Anonymous No.12574389]

>>12574355
You should refrain from insulting Starhopper if you want her blessing >>12572192

[Anonymous No.12574390]

>>12574368
oh shid hoppy real

[Anonymous No.12574392]

SpaceX wants to do a new test tank to destruction? Probably checking for new construction/welding methods and new steel?

[Anonymous No.12574395]

>>12574304
No it's not. And it never was

[Anonymous No.12574399]

>>12574392
Whoops wrong image.

[Anonymous No.12574400]

>>12574392
White thermal tiles?

[Anonymous No.12574401]

>>12574392
how are they gnna make sure the tiles have the tile pattern when they do the tiling? (heat shield)

[Anonymous No.12574406]

They should send Hoppy to Mars.

[Anonymous No.12574410]

>>12574384
You can't even suck dick right you total failure

[Anonymous No.12574414]

>>12573222
>>12573451
>>12573930
>>12574138
I remember when I thought Elon was just putting on a facade to generate interest among the younger people and get free press and advertising.

[Anonymous No.12574417]

>>12574400
To me it looks like they cut pieces out so the hexagons could fit in them or something. Maybe they did paint them white idk

[Anonymous No.12574418]

>>12574399
SpaceX using secret Nazi UFO tech: Confirmed

[Anonymous No.12574419]

>>12574311
>I wish there were horny alien grils on mars
Be careful what you wish for.

[Anonymous No.12574423]

>>12574400
maybe some kind of adhesive

[Anonymous No.12574424]

>>12574400
a pic I saw a thread or two ago clearly had white stuff under the titles, but I didn't save the pic

[Anonymous No.12574430]

>Forget Labpadre audio is on
>Heart attack when loud goddamn commentary starts without warning
Every time

[Anonymous No.12574431]

OH GOD HOPPY HAS GONE CRITICAL

[Anonymous No.12574433]

>>12574410
im talking about poop, genius

[Anonymous No.12574434]

>>12574030
ULA!!!

[Anonymous No.12574441]

>>12574433
Unrelated to your below-average fellatio skill. Can't even do that right can you, Christ.

[Anonymous No.12574442]

>>12574099
speaking of eating poop, what's the verdict of its nutritional value? we already drink russian pee on ISS, will we eat their poo someday?

[Anonymous No.12574444]

>>12574392
going for 3mm instead of 4mm thickness

[Anonymous No.12574447]

>>12574442
Your mind is gonna be blown when you learn about fertilizer

[Anonymous No.12574451]

>>12574293
For better or for worse, spaceflight will now be forever be associated with the “funny meme man that smokes weed due lmao”

[Anonymous No.12574453]

>>12574400
Maybe now they'll actually work.

[Anonymous No.12574454]

I wanted to wait to post this in a new thread, but i've already spent way too long on this so i'm posting it now.

This is my concept of the booster-catching system that Elon mentioned.
I wanted to do something more in-depth than whatever those redditors and twitter shitheads had come up with in 10 minutes, and while I don't think this is the best idea, I wanted to see it through to the end.

More screenshots to follow.

[Anonymous No.12574455]

>>12572891
reddit cringe

[Anonymous No.12574456]

>>12574447
i know about that, i'm talking about a direct recycle loop, not indirect nitrogen cycle shit. like i mean poop in ISS toilet, minimal processing, and then shit tacos on the other end. like it's so fresh it still obviously appears and perhaps smells like poo

[Anonymous No.12574461]

>>12574454
clamps is gunna clamp ya!
wtf I think those walls aren't structurally up for this clamp *snibsnab*

[Anonymous No.12574464]

>>12574400
You dumb fucks, it's SN6. Remember? the one that lost all its tiles after a little hop. you're looking at elmer's glue, faggots

[Anonymous No.12574466]

>>12574456
Stop bringing your fetish here

[Anonymous No.12574471]

>>12574454
First is the elevators and arresting system.
Pretty much just lifts the whole arm and then uses a ton of air cylinders to slow the falling booster.

[Anonymous No.12574475]

>>12574456
Survival of the fittest means a lot of bruteforcing so literal waste product isn't going to retain much nutritional value for the species it came out of.

[Anonymous No.12574482]

>>12574466
it's not a fetish, normally I'm against this sort of thing

[Anonymous No.12574484]

>>12573692
>Uranuslink
>Shitty internet

[Anonymous No.12574489]

>>12574454
The effort is what makes this cool. Good design too. Way more realistic than the napkin sketches I've seen posted here from reddit

[Anonymous No.12574490]

>SpaceX needs an arm to catch Superheavy
>completely ignores CSA who are masters at space arms

[Anonymous No.12574496]

>>12574484
Imagine trying to download a single gif from proximacentaurilink

[Anonymous No.12574498]

>>12574471
So here is the base of the arm and the horizontal tracks.
Uses electric motors to shift the arm to the sides.

[Anonymous No.12574503]

>>12574490
>Canadarm
>Super Heavarm
pls no

[Anonymous No.12574506]

>>12574498
The arm itself can extend as well, although I've probably drawn it with too few/ too small cylinders.

[Anonymous No.12574508]

>>12574399
yup. They'll probably do another one in the future with their custom metal

>>12574418
lmao perfect

[Anonymous No.12574514]

>>12574482
>post scat garbage
>told to stop
>"whoa I don't even like it bro"

[Anonymous No.12574516]

>night static fire
kino

[Anonymous No.12574524]

>>12574506
The clamp clamps.
The only thing special about it is the rollers at the top and bottom, and some rubber at the top to catch the bases of the grid fins (or lugs placed right beneath them)

[Anonymous No.12574530]

>>12574454
>>12574471
>>12574498
>>12574506
firstly, the level of detail/effort here is sick so props for that.

As for the actual design, I like it. From what I can tell it would allow for SH to be grabbed out of the air as soon as its in range. I really like this approach. Most designs demand that SH has perfect accuracy, but this design gives it some leeway in all directions. It's not overly complex or convoluted either.

[Anonymous No.12574531]

>>12574524
Looks like one of those folding cupholders

[Anonymous No.12574537]

>>12574514
yes

[Anonymous No.12574539]

>>12574524
Not a structural engineer, but the part where the clamp moves/hydraulics seems a bit flimsy. Not sure these bolts would be able to hold it.

[Anonymous No.12574549]

>>12574537
So don't post scat nonsense in /sfg/ again

[Anonymous No.12574557]

>>12574549
DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO

[Anonymous No.12574560]

>>12574454
Based anon, be sure to rebost in the new thread

[Anonymous No.12574566]

>>12574524
>>12574539
Superheavy should be something in the range of 200 tons, maybe a bit more accounting for the grid fins, RCS and attendant tankage, etc, although the early versions with fewer Raptors should be lighter than spec.
Does this modeling software allow you to simulate a 180-220 metric ton load on the arm and clamp structure?

[Anonymous No.12574577]

>>12574454
You mentioned it not being perfect; what would be a better design?

[Anonymous No.12574578]

>>12574557
I will and you'll like it

[Anonymous No.12574586]

>>12574524
>>12574506
>>12574498
>>12574471
>>12574454
>just a fuckhuge 3-axis manipulator
High quality shit anon, good effort and very detailed weldments. Have you run any static sims on it with/without the booster? Maybe you want the tower to be even closer to the launch pad to reduce cantilever loads.
Also, why did you use hydraulics for extending the arm rather than electric actuators or something? The hydraulics line routing for this system will be very interesting to say the least

[Anonymous No.12574587]

>>12574578
wait a second that's not the right one

[Anonymous No.12574603]

>>12574524
And finally the tower, nothing special about it.

This concludes my TEDtalk.

>>12574530
Yeah the plan was to rely on the booster as little as possible for alignment, as the boosters get better you can start stripping down the arm to be more basic/reliable.

>>12574539
I agree a lot of the stuff needs to be beefed up a bit (or a lot), but I was mostly going for what it would look like, I'm no structural engineer either.

>>12574566
>>12574586
It was all drawn in solidworks, and if I tried to run an FEA on it I think my computer would shit itself. The best route would probably be to redraw it in something like TEKLA while only doing actual FEA on things like the hinges and rails/wheels.

As for the cantilever loads, thats why I put the extension at the top and ran some anchoring cables as well. It's all just me guessing, though.

[Anonymous No.12574606]

>>12574524
Imaging having the autism to CAD this all up. That being said, props for putting in actual effort and not doodling in Paint. Glad to see the 4ASS Design Bureau hard at work. A literal arm is probably the simplest way to go, other than going back to landing legs.

>>12574578
>>12574587
>Methane sensor
>Not edited
Kek

[Anonymous No.12574610]

>>12574587
Makes me crack up every time

[Anonymous No.12574621]

>>12574603
It certainly needs lots of work. Good job anyway, at least you can practice in SolidWorks

[Anonymous No.12574624]

>>12574603
Working with a university copy of Solidworks or one you bought for yourself? I've been interested in a 3D design software of some kind and I thought solidworks looked quite promising, although obviously I plan to learn using something free or cheap before looking into anything like SW.

[Anonymous No.12574648]

>>12574454
what's the capture area, what about the angular alignment tolerance?
>>12574498
I'd be a bit worried about the track system deforming under applied load. Personally I'd opt for a rotary bearing rather than a linear bearing because you can cover a larger area. There is also a decent amount of prior art in making large rotary bearings which can support an asymmetric load in cranes. Personally I think the drag line excavator Big Muskie is a good place to look for inspiration. It could pick up a payload of 294 mt and move it around pretty quickly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSEq79kDiUg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Muskie

[Anonymous No.12574659]

>>12574213
they probably need vids with music in the background to tell them how to feel

https://youtu.be/sX1Y2JMK6g8
https://youtu.be/xrVqLhhd1zo

[Anonymous No.12574667]

>>12574414
He's the real thing. He's the world richest and most powerful memelord.

The real question is how the hell can he only produce boys.

[Anonymous No.12574677]

VENTING VENTING VENTING

[Anonymous No.12574679]

>>12574677
it's scrubbed dude

[Anonymous No.12574689]

>>12574454
The crazy part would be that Elon actually uses that design and crediting 4chan
>4chan
>Calling airstrikes on ISIS, stealing Shia's flags, memeing presidents in and out of office and retrieving spaceships since 2003.

[Anonymous No.12574694]

>>12574516
There's something primitive about setting a fire in the dark. It's a callback to our ancestors.

[Anonymous No.12574698]

>>12574624
It's a university copy, but if you want "cheap" you can always just pirate it.

>>12574648
12 feet in and out and 18 feet side to side, limited by the towers width.
Hard to judge angle tolerance because the rollers are there to align the booster as it comes into contact with the clamp. As it closes around the descending booster, the booster should straighten up for all 4 gridfins to make contact at the same time.

[Anonymous No.12574703]

>>12574454
Someone tweet this to Elon.

[Anonymous No.12574704]

>>12574079
>Americans aren't nearly as autistic about forcing everyone to speak English
And that's why your country is headed right down the shitter.

[Anonymous No.12574721]

>>12574046
no. Reusable second stage

[Anonymous No.12574722]

>>12574659
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH3c1QZzRK4

[Anonymous No.12574770]

>latest episode of the expanse
>naomi hops from ship to ship without a suit
>uses an oxygen injection into her blood stream as a way to stay alive long enough to make it to the other ship
how plausible is this?

[Anonymous No.12574775]

ENGINE CHILL

[Anonymous No.12574776]

>>12574770
Would pass out from the blood pressure drop regardless of oxygenation.
But she's a belter so maybe they're adapted for it.

[Anonymous No.12574779]

>>12574770
Eh you can live in the vacuum of space for a few minutes. The biggest issue would be the lack of pressure. A person can survive without oxygen for 10 minutes and the space between Venus and Mars is “nice” enough that you wont burn up or freeze for a while. However holding your breath in the vacuum would destroy your lungs and kill you fast

[Anonymous No.12574783]

Triventing

[Anonymous No.12574785]

SIREN
>SIREN
SIREN

STATIC FIRE IMMINENT!!

[Anonymous No.12574786]

>>12574770
Sudden pressure change causes blood to boil, similar to the bends, blood would basically stop moving around the body, no blood flow, no oxygen to tissue

[Anonymous No.12574792]

HOP SOON

[Anonymous No.12574793]

>>12574779
>A person can survive without oxygen for 10 minutes
How long until irreversible brain damage, though? About 3 minutes if I remember right.

[Anonymous No.12574794]

AIR RAID

BOEING BOMBERS IN THE AIR

GET THOSE AA UP

[AIR RAID BOCA CHICA - THIS IS(...) No.12574797]

! AIR RAID BOCA CHICA - THIS IS NO DRILL !

[Anonymous No.12574798]

>>12574794
BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT

[Anonymous No.12574801]

TAKE THE SHOT

[Anonymous No.12574802]

SHE FUCKING BLEW!!!

[Anonymous No.12574803]

>>12574794
>Wings of Honneamise final scene

[Anonymous No.12574805]

Static fires are so boring, why dont you grow up sfg?

[Anonymous No.12574807]

DURRR IM TEXAS TANK WATCHIN
LETS GET TOGETHER WE ARE THE NERDLE

[Anonymous No.12574810]

>>12574805
Why don't you put on the exit-mask

[Anonymous No.12574811]

abort

[Anonymous No.12574812]

FUCK

[Anonymous No.12574813]

lmao SpaceX stans on suicide watch

[Anonymous No.12574815]

DETANK OH NO NO NO NO WE GOT TOO COCKY MARS BROS

[Anonymous No.12574816]

imagine stayin gup for this

[Anonymous No.12574817]

SCRUBX SCRUBS ANOTHER TEST. ELON IS A FRAUD.

[Anonymous No.12574818]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

IT WILL NEVER FLY

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.12574819]

JUST FIRE YOU ASSHOLE

[Anonymous No.12574820]

>>12574812
Disc burst?

[Anonymous No.12574821]

BEZOS WINS AGAIN

[Anonymous No.12574822]

>>12574810
Looks like SN9 put on the exit mask.

[Anonymous No.12574823]

>>12574805
me like fire. fire cool.

[Anonymous No.12574827]

>>12574793
>About 3 minutes if I remember right.
I'm just an EMT, but that's what we were taught, and at six chances of revival are slim. There are a few cases of people at below freezing temperatures who've survived longer though.

[Anonymous No.12574828]

>>12574820
Nothing so dramatic

[Anonymous No.12574831]

Cracked from the bend

[Anonymous No.12574833]

New Glenn just static fired right now. It will make it to orbit before SpaceX "starship" does. New Glenn is REAL. I've seen it down in Michoud. Starship may come about in the future, but for now New Glenn will fly.

[Anonymous No.12574834]

>>12574828
It was a big fucking puff compared to normal operations is all.

[Anonymous No.12574836]

ScrubX at it again

[Anonymous No.12574837]

>abort

[Anonymous No.12574838]

yeah im thinking a 12.5km hop isnt happening this week

[Anonymous No.12574842]

>>12574834
it's the depressurization vent
they are almost always this big

[Anonymous No.12574845]

>>12574823
Grug like fire stick
Grug dream of stars

[Anonymous No.12574855]

le puff-puff

[Anonymous No.12574860]

>>12574833
Is there even a picture of a mostly complete New Glenn?

[Anonymous No.12574861]

>>12571459
According to sources the last guy seem to be working on sn9 is named Jeffry Bezzoso.

A new guy. Maybe he’s got something to do with this abort?

[Anonymous No.12574862]

NEW
NEW
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>>12574859
>>12574859
>>12574859

[Anonymous No.12574870]

IMAGE LIMIT ABORT

[Anonymous No.12574902]

>>12574845
born too early to live after 30
born too late to evolve from monkeys
born just in time to club a couple of guys in the head and then proceed to rape-impregnate 500 women

[Anonymous No.12575121]

>>12573488
retard

[Anonymous No.12575149]

>>12573596
It doesn't really matter if SpaceX is "efficiently" using Starship's launch capacity, they just need to be able to launch enough Starlink sats at once to beat Falcon 9 economics. Once the constellation is up there's no real problem with launching twelve sats at a time and placing them into two or three different inclinations or whatever to patch up holes.

[Anonymous No.12575230]

>>12574130
I'm sure 5 years ago I would see that barrel as being impressively large, but now with the amount of Starship prototypes kicking around the SLS seems modest and boring. Good.

[Anonymous No.12575238]

>>12574204
The old Atlas rockets used steel too. There's no lower scale limit for steel construction, you just need to budget mass fractions and stage proportions appropriately.